【最稳更新】【BBC新闻播客】20261110（第二期） G
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| 0:00 | This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. | 这是BBC世界服务公司的全球新闻节目。 |
| 0:04 | Hello, I'm Oliver Conway. | 你好 我是奥利弗·康威 |
| 0:06 | We're recording this at 15 hours GMT on Tuesday, the 10th of November. | 我们在11月10日格林尼治标准时15点录制 |
| 0:10 | The BBC uncovers new evidence about how modelling agencies helped sex offender | BBC发现了一些新证据 说明建模机构如何帮助性罪犯 |
| 0:14 | Jeffrey Epstein gain access to young women. | 杰弗里·爱泼斯坦获得了与年轻女性的接触. |
| 0:17 | The US defence secretary, Pete Hegseth defends his record as he fights efforts | 美国国防部长Pete Hegseth为他的战绩辩护 |
| 0:21 | to impeach him and negotiators from Ukraine, Russia and the US meet for the | 弹劾他和来自乌克兰、俄罗斯和美国的谈判者 |
| 0:25 | first time in nine months. | 第一次在九个月。 |
| 0:30 | Also in this podcast, as Russia's most prominent independent newspaper is | 俄罗斯最著名的独立报纸是 |
| 0:34 | forced to shut down, its journalists remain optimistic. | 它的记者们仍保持乐观。 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. | 这是BBC世界服务公司的全球新闻节目。 |
| 2 | Hello, I'm Oliver Conway. | 你好 我是奥利弗·康威 |
| 3 | We're recording this at 15 hours GMT on Tuesday, the 10th of November. | 我们在11月10日格林尼治标准时15点录制 |
| 4 | The BBC uncovers new evidence about how modelling agencies helped sex offender | BBC发现了一些新证据 说明建模机构如何帮助性罪犯 |
| 5 | Jeffrey Epstein gain access to young women. | 杰弗里·爱泼斯坦获得了与年轻女性的接触. |
| 6 | The US defence secretary, Pete Hegseth defends his record as he fights efforts | 美国国防部长Pete Hegseth为他的战绩辩护 |
| 7 | to impeach him and negotiators from Ukraine, Russia and the US meet for the | 弹劾他和来自乌克兰、俄罗斯和美国的谈判者 |
| 8 | first time in nine months. | 第一次在九个月。 |
| 9 | Also in this podcast, as Russia's most prominent independent newspaper is | 俄罗斯最著名的独立报纸是 |
| 10 | forced to shut down, its journalists remain optimistic. | 它的记者们仍保持乐观。 |
| 11 | Russia lost hope, but it's not the end. | 俄罗斯失去了希望,但这并不是结束. |
| 12 | History always goes on a circle. | 历史总是循环。 |
| 13 | I truly believe that we're going to work again. | 我真的相信我们会再工作。 |
| 14 | And it was like watching the movie for the first time again with some scenes. | 这就像第一次看电影 与一些场景。 |
| 15 | That's why I find it so mind blowing that it worked. | 这就是为什么我发现它的心 吹它的工作。 |
| 16 | Can hypnosis help you forget the end of your favourite film? | 催眠能帮助你忘记你最喜欢的电影的结局吗? |
| 17 | A BBC investigation has uncovered new evidence about how model agencies, | BBC的一项调查 发现了关于模范机构的新证据 |
| 18 | scouts and powerful fashion figures helps Jeffrey Epstein gain access to | 侦察兵和强大的时尚人物 帮助杰弗里・爱泼斯坦获得 |
| 19 | young women after his conviction for sex offences. | 年轻女子在因性犯罪被定罪后 |
| 20 | BBC I examined court records, financial statements and emails published by the | 英国广播公司一号检查了法院记录、财务报表和电子邮件。 |
| 21 | US Justice Department and spoke to more than 100 models. | 美国司法部与100多个模特儿谈话. |
| 22 | Sheda Kiran has this report. | 谢达·基兰有这个报告. |
| 23 | Given the fact that I spent in the orbit around like two years, it would be | 鉴于我在轨道上待了两年 |
| 24 | probably 200 times that I was raped. | 可能我被强奸了200次 |
| 25 | Speaking exclusively to the BBC for the first time, Simona, not her real name | 西蒙娜,你第一次独家向英国广播公司演讲,不是她的真名 |
| 26 | and voiced by an actor, is breaking years of silence to talk about what it was like | 一个演员说, 打破多年的沉默 谈论它是什么样子 |
| 27 | working as an assistant for the financier and convicted sex offender, | 担任金融家和被定罪的性犯罪者的助手, |
| 28 | Jeffrey Epstein, a model from Eastern Europe. | 杰弗里·爱泼斯坦,东欧的模特儿. |
| 29 | She came to New York hoping for a career in fashion. | 她来到纽约 希望有时尚生涯。 |
| 30 | When you land in New York, it's like something in the air and you feel like, | 当你降落在纽约, 它就像空气中的东西,你觉得, |
| 31 | oh my God, the sky is the limit. | 哦,我的上帝,天空是极限。 |
| 32 | I was 20 years old and I really wanted to become a supermodel. | 当时我20岁,我真的想成为超级模特。 |
| 33 | Instead, she says she was drawn into Epstein's world. | 相反,她说她被引入爱泼斯坦的世界. |
| 34 | I thought he genuinely wanted to help young women. | 我以为他真的想帮助年轻女人 |
| 35 | Simona recounts what's happened on his private island. | 西蒙娜讲述了他的私人岛上发生的事情. |
| 36 | We were there for the purpose of serving Epstein, slaves who also have been raped. | 我们在那里是为了为Epstein服务 他们也是被强奸的奴隶 |
| 37 | Going through the Department of Justice's files, BBC has pieced together new | BBC通过司法部的档案 整理了新的 |
| 38 | evidence about Epstein's ties to the modeling world, including the role a | 关于爱泼斯坦与模特世界的联系的证据,包括角色a |
| 39 | 模特机构MC Squared United America 在他们走之前在赞助模特签证中玩过 | |
| 40 | on to work for Epstein. | 在爱泼斯坦工作。 |
| 41 | One of them was Rosa. | 其中一个是罗莎 |
| 42 | She says the agency sent her to photo shoots at Epstein's Florida mansion. | 她说机构派她去爱泼斯坦的佛罗里达豪宅拍照 |
| 43 | Jeffrey Epstein was convicted felon of raping an underage girl. | 杰弗里·爱泼斯坦被判犯有强奸一名未成年女孩的重罪. |
| 44 | And he was in house arrest while raping me. | 他在强奸我时被软禁 |
| 45 | The job was to protect me and they failed. | 工作是保护我 他们失败了 |
| 46 | In fact, they put me in danger. | 事实上,他们把我置于危险之中。 |
| 47 | And for that, they should be held accountable, but they're not. | 为此,应该追究他们的责任,但他们不是。 |
| 48 | That's pretty. | 这是漂亮的。 |
| 49 | You've got the lights behind. | 灯光在你后面 |
| 50 | It's gorgeous. | 它的华丽。 |
| 51 | Lisa Amour, a former model turned photographer, is also an industry campaigner. | 前模特变身摄影师丽莎·阿穆尔(Lisa Amour)也是业界的竞选活动家. |
| 52 | Oh, that's beautiful. | 哦,这是美丽的。 |
| 53 | She is now investigating Epstein's links to the fashion world. | 她现在正在调查爱泼斯坦与时尚界的联系. |
| 54 | For Jeffrey Epstein to have such incredible access to models, there had to | 让杰弗里·爱泼斯坦能够如此不可思议地接触模特儿 |
| 55 | be other players. | 成为其他玩家。 |
| 56 | Here was Jeff Fuller. | 这是杰夫·富勒 |
| 57 | Jeff Fuller was president of MC Squared, Rosa's agency from 2005. | 杰夫·富勒从2005年起担任罗莎代理公司MC Squared的总裁. |
| 58 | His name appears more than 200 times in the DOJ files. | 他的名字在司法部的文件中出现了200多次. |
| 59 | He exchanged emails with Jeffrey Epstein discussing the agency's models with him. | 他与Jeffrey Epstein交换了电子邮件,讨论该机构的模特儿. |
| 60 | Lisa has been going through them. | 丽莎一直在经历他们。 |
| 61 | Let me look through a couple of these. | 让我看看这些 |
| 62 | Well, Jeff Fuller to Jeffrey Epstein, had it not been for you, we would have fired | 杰夫·富勒呼叫杰弗里·爱泼斯坦 如果不是你 我们会解雇他 |
| 63 | her months ago. | 几个月前 |
| 64 | The telling thing here is if it weren't for you, we wouldn't have | 告诉你,如果不是你,我们就不会 |
| 65 | kept her. | 留着她 |
| 66 | Right? | 对吧? |
| 67 | Here he is in a 2017 interview explaining how his company operated. | 他在2017年的一次采访中解释了他的公司是如何运作的. |
| 68 | Where you have a more boutique atmosphere, a smaller group of models. | 你有一个更精致的氛围, 一个较小的模型组。 |
| 69 | You know, you can be more deliberate about what you want your talent to do. | 你知道,你可以更深思熟虑 你希望你的天赋做什么。 |
| 70 | I'm involved myself in all aspects of the day to day operation. | 我日复一日地参与各方面的行动. |
| 71 | Rosa found an expense statement showing Fuller booked a flight for her from West Palm | 罗莎找到一份支出说明 显示富勒为她订了航班 从西棕榈岛 |
| 72 | Beach, where Epstein lived around two weeks after she says Epstein sexually abused her | 海滩,爱泼斯坦在说爱泼斯坦性虐待她两周后住在那里 |
| 73 | for the first time. | 这是第一次 |
| 74 | Jeff Fuller purchased me a ticket to go from West Palm Beach back to LaGuardia in | 杰夫·富勒给我买了一张从西棕榈滩回拉瓜迪亚的机票 |
| 75 | August. | 奥古斯特. |
| 76 | And I'm like, he bought me a ticket so he knew. | 我很喜欢,他给我买了一张票 所以他知道。 |
| 77 | Jeff Fuller has not responded to the BBC's questions. | 杰夫·富勒没有回答BBC的问题. |
| 78 | He has previously said he did not know Rosa was going to Epstein's home. | 他之前说他不知道罗莎要去爱泼斯坦家 |
| 79 | 2019年,杰夫·富勒关闭MC Squared U.S. | |
| 80 | He's now running a Miami based agency. | 他现在经营一个迈阿密的机构。 |
| 81 | That is what this law is about. | 即此法义. |
| 82 | In 2025, the DOJ said there was nothing further to investigate. | 2025年,司法部表示没有进一步的调查. |
| 83 | Zelner Myrie is a senator for New York State. | 泽尔纳·米里是纽约州的参议员. |
| 84 | He's bringing in a new trafficking bill. | 他带来了一个新的贩运法案。 |
| 85 | If approved, it would give the police greater power to investigate Epstein's alleged | 如果得到批准,警方将拥有更大的权力调查Epstein的指控 |
| 86 | enablers. | 助动器。 |
| 87 | When this bill becomes law, if you are an individual that was leading an | 当该法案成为法律时, 如果你是一个领导一个 |
| 88 | agency, you were sending models to Epstein and you knew what Epstein was doing or you | 你在给爱泼斯坦送模型 你知道爱泼斯坦在做什么 |
| 89 | should have known what he was doing, you will be held accountable. | 你应该知道他在做什么, 你会被追究责任。 |
| 90 | For Rosa, training and exercise helps her carry on and she is now a CrossFit champion. | 对罗莎来说,训练与锻炼帮助她继续发展,她现在是CrossFit的冠军. |
| 91 | She is sharing her story because she wants to be there for others. | 她分享她的故事 是因为她想和别人在一起 |
| 92 | There are many, many survivors out there who never speak. | 外面有很多,很多幸存者 从来不说话。 |
| 93 | So to all my sister survivors is if you're sitting somewhere and you're listening to | 所以对我妹妹的幸存者来说 就是如果你坐在某个地方 听 |
| 94 | this, like, you know me now, you know my name, I say reach out. | 这,就像,你现在了解我了, 你知道我的名字,我说伸手。 |
| 95 | 罗莎,结束那个报道 由Shayda Kiran和BBC Eye, | |
| 96 | BBC世界服务YouTube频道. | |
| 97 | He's arguably the most controversial member of Donald Trump's cabinet, not least because | 他可以说是唐纳德·特朗普内阁中最具争议的成员,这尤其是因为 |
| 98 | of his handling of the war on Iran. | 他处理对伊朗的战争 |
| 99 | But Pete Hegseth still has the support of the president and the self-styled secretary | 但皮特·赫格塞斯仍然得到总统和自封的秘书的支持 |
| 100 | for war is fighting back after outgoing Republican congressman Thomas Massey filed an | 在即将离任的共和党议员托马斯·梅西 提出 |
| 101 | impeachment resolution against him. | 弹劾解决他 |
| 102 | On Tuesday morning at the Pentagon, he gave his first news conference in half a year and | 周二早上在五角大楼 他做了半年来的第一次新闻发布会 |
| 103 | he was in a combative mood. | 他当时心情好极了 |
| 104 | Let's be clear about what this resolution actually does. | 让我们明确一下这个决议的实际作用. |
| 105 | It tells our enemies, Iran, the cartels, every adversary watching that the United States | 它告诉我们的敌人,伊朗,卡特尔, 每一个对手看美国 |
| 106 | will actually punish its own warriors and its own civilian leadership for successfully | 将惩罚自己的勇士和文职领导 |
| 107 | executing lawful military operations. | 执行合法的军事行动。 |
| 108 | It tells them that a single rogue legislator loaded with personal animus for the president | 它告诉他们,一个无赖 立法者 充斥着个人安乐死总统 |
| 109 | can attempt to veto national security decisions made by the duly elected commander in | 能够试图否决正式当选的指挥员作出的国家安全决定。 |
| 110 | It puts a target on the backs of American warriors by signaling that Congress will | 它通过暗示国会会 |
| 111 | undermine their missions in real time. | 实时破坏他们的使命。 |
| 112 | This is not patriotism. | 这不是爱国主义。 |
| 113 | This is sabotage. | 这是破坏。 |
| 114 | Our chief North America correspondent, Gary O'Donoghue, was listening to the speech. | 我们的北美首席记者加里·奥多诺霍正在听演讲。 |
| 115 | He gave his reaction to Regina Vidyanathan. | 他对瑞金娜·维迪亚纳坦的反应. |
| 116 | I thought his tone was a little bit more measured than it sometimes is. | 我以为他的语气比它有时更有节制 |
| 117 | Sometimes he does all this kind of thing, you know, no beards, no dudes in dresses, all | 有时候他做所有这些事情, 你知道,没有胡子, 没有男人穿衣服,所有 |
| 118 | that kind of stuff. | 那种东西。 |
| 119 | There was none of that, especially today. | 没有这些,特别是今天。 |
| 120 | There was a kind of robust defense of the lawfulness of what he'd done. | 对于他的行为的合法性 有一种有力的辩护 |
| 121 | He tied himself absolutely tightly to the president, had him in all the sentences where | 他把自己完全绑在总统身上, 在所有的句子中,他在那里 |
| 122 | he was talking about who this was an attack on. | 他在说这是对谁的攻击 |
| 123 | It was a sort of a much calmer Hegseth than you often see. | 比你经常看到的要冷静得多 |
| 124 | But clearly, they know there's a problem. | 但很明显,他们知道有一个问题。 |
| 125 | And that's why, you know, we were summoned to the Pentagon at six a.m. | 这就是为什么,你知道, 我们被召到五角大楼 在早上6点。 |
| 126 | this morning because he wants to get his defense out there because these votes are due, you | 今天早上 因为他想让他的辩护人出来 因为这些选票已经到期了 你 |
| 127 | just remind us what the process of impeachment actually means. | 提醒我们弹劾程序的真正意义 |
| 128 | So impeachment is the way of removing in the Constitution federal officers, including the | 因此弹劾是宪法中取消联邦官员,包括 |
| 129 | president, vice president, judges, members of the cabinet. | 院长,副院长,法官,内阁成员. |
| 130 | So if Congress or someone in Congress believes they've either committed treason or bribery | 所以如果国会或国会中有人认为 他们有叛国罪或贿赂罪 |
| 131 | or what's called high crimes and misdemeanors, then they could bring an article of impeachment. | 或者所谓的高罪和轻罪 然后他们可以带来弹劾的文章 |
| 132 | The House will vote on it. | 众议院将投票决定. |
| 133 | It needs a simple majority to impeach them, which is effectively just formally charging | 弹劾他们需要简单多数 这实际上只是正式指控 |
| 134 | them. | 他们。 |
| 135 | And then it then would go to the Senate, which acts as a court to decide whether or | 然后由参议院决定 |
| 136 | not they're guilty. | 他们不是有罪的。 |
| 137 | And that would require two thirds of the Senate to vote in favor of that, to have that person | 这需要三分之二的参议院赞成 才能有这个人 |
| 138 | removed and potentially disbarred from public office in future. | 今后被撤销公职并可能被剥夺公职。 |
| 139 | 你对Pete Hegseth的下场有何评价? | |
| 140 | No one really knows. | 没人知道 |
| 141 | The numbers are so close. | 数字是如此接近。 |
| 142 | We're dealing with the old Congress, not the one that was elected in the midterms. | 我们处理的是旧国会,而不是中期选举的国会. |
| 143 | Don't forget, we're still in the end days of this Congress. | 别忘了,我们还在国会的末日 |
| 144 | Republicans have a majority. | 共和党人占多数. |
| 145 | You don't need the fingers of one hand to count a lot of Republicans who lost their | 你不需要一只手的手指 来计算很多共和党人 |
| 146 | seats might not even bother to come back. | 座位可能甚至不麻烦回来。 |
| 147 | So the margins are incredibly tight and no one really knows whether or not these articles | 因此,边缘是惊人的紧, 没有人真正知道 这些文章是否 |
| 148 | will go through, although they do have to be in somewhere or another voted on in the | 虽然他们得在某处 或另一个投票通过 |
| 149 | next day or so. | 第二天左右。 大约。 |
| 150 | And he's got the president squarely behind him, at least for now. | 至少现在他正站在总统后面 |
| 151 | Yeah, for now. | 是的,现在。 |
| 152 | And it's always for now with the president. | 现在总是和总统在一起 |
| 153 | Don't forget his support of people is conditional and transactional. | 别忘了他对人的支持是有条件和交易性的. |
| 154 | It can evaporate in an instant and you can become the worst person on the planet | 它可以在瞬间蒸发,你可以成为地球上最坏的人 |
| 155 | overnight. | 过夜 |
| 156 | So there's a political calculation here. | 所以这里有一个政治计算. |
| 157 | Do they hang on to him, Hegseth, and try and get through? | 赫格塞斯,他们要坚持住吗? |
| 158 | Because he's going to be investigated, no question, by the next Democratic controlled | 因为他肯定会受到下一位民主党人的调查 |
| 159 | Congress. | 国会. |
| 160 | And it'll be harder to get the agenda through in terms of money for the | 更难把议程 通过在金钱方面 |
| 161 | military. | 军事 |
| 162 | Or do they sacrifice him now and hopefully get someone else they can live | 或者他们现在牺牲他 希望能另找活人 |
| 163 | with nominated? | 和提名? |
| 164 | And that's a calculation only the president can make. | 这是总统所能做的计算 |
| 165 | And that's what they will be thinking hard about in the White House, because, you know, | 白宫里他们会这么认真思考 因为 你知道 |
| 166 | he has become the focus of the Republicans midterm problem. | 他已经成为共和党中期问题的重点 |
| 167 | And that is the Iran war and the impact on people of the Iran war in terms of prices. | 这就是伊朗战争和伊朗战争对人民的影响,就价格而言。 |
| 168 | Gary O'Donoghue 和Rajini Vaidyanathan, 民主党的东部谈话 | |
| 169 | Republic of Congo has endured decades of brutal conflict and fighting continues between | 刚果共和国经历了数十年的残酷冲突,两国之间的战斗仍在继续。 |
| 170 | government forces and various rebel groups. | 政府军和各种叛乱集团。 |
| 171 | Now, at least 66 Congolese soldiers have been sentenced to death for cowardice, | 现在,至少有66名刚果士兵因胆怯被判死刑, |
| 172 | mutiny and refusing to obey orders. | 兵变和拒绝服从命令. |
| 173 | I heard more from our Global Affairs reporter, Richard Kagoi. | 我听到全球事务记者理查德·卡戈的更多消息。 |
| 174 | There have been an increasing tendency by some of the soldiers to abandon their | 一些士兵越来越倾向于放弃他们 |
| 175 | positions. | 职位。 |
| 176 | The military courts say that they were accused of refusing even actually to | 军事法庭说,他们被指控甚至实际上拒绝 |
| 177 | take orders and causing even a revolt. | 接受命令,甚至引起起义。 |
| 178 | So generally, you look at an attempt by the army to perhaps convince and also threaten | 所以一般你看看军队 试图说服和威胁 |
| 179 | the soldiers to make sure that they put up a fight against rebel forces in Eastern | 士兵们要保证在东部反抗叛军 |
| 180 | Democratic Republic of Congo. | 刚果民主共和国。 |
| 181 | And what is life like for these soldiers in the army as they try to battle these rebels | 当这些士兵试图与叛军作战时,他们的生活是怎样的? |
| 182 | and seemingly are unable to defeat them? | 似乎无法打败他们? |
| 183 | Well, it's quite a huge challenge for the soldiers there. | 这对那里的士兵来说是个巨大的挑战 |
| 184 | But there have been issues, you know, systemic. | 但有一些问题,你知道的,系统性的。 |
| 185 | Part of it been complaints from the soldiers that the salaries are low, that delays even | 部分是士兵抱怨工资低,甚至拖延 |
| 186 | in payment of their salaries, they complain of lack of equipment to deal with some of | 在支付工资方面,他们抱怨说,缺乏设备来处理其中一些问题。 |
| 187 | these rebel groups who seem to be even better equipped compared to the Congolese forces. | 这些反叛团体似乎比刚果部队装备更好。 |
| 188 | There have been complaints, especially in terms of organization within the ranks of | 曾经有人提出过申诉,特别是在组织方面。 |
| 189 | the Congolese army. | 刚果军队。 |
| 190 | And I guess maybe perhaps that's really what's causing the disquiet amongst its troops. | 我想也许这就是 造成部队不安的原因 |
| 191 | And it's really been quite a difficult cooperation for the army. | 这对军队来说确实是一个相当困难的合作. |
| 192 | Dozens of militia groups are operating in different parts of the Congolese region of | 数十个民兵团体正在刚果(金)地区各地活动。 |
| 193 | North Kivu province, the larger eastern region of Congo. | 北基伍省,刚果东部大区. |
| 194 | And of course, while the fighting goes on, the suffering continues for the local population. | 当然,在战斗持续的同时,当地居民仍然在遭受痛苦。 |
| 195 | Yes, the local population who have been caught up in these conflicts that have been | 是的,卷入这些冲突的当地民众 |
| 196 | running for decades, bearing the brunt. | 跑了几十年 首当其冲 |
| 197 | And not only just that, there's also the Ebola outbreak that has been concentrated in | 不仅如此,埃博拉疫情也集中在 |
| 198 | parts of the eastern DRC. | 刚果民主共和国东部部分地区。 |
| 199 | So the local population continue to suffer. | 因此当地民众继续受苦. |
| 200 | They have been displaced by the health crisis. | 他们因健康危机而流离失所。 |
| 201 | They have been displaced now by this conflict. | 他们现在因这场冲突而流离失所。 |
| 202 | Richard Kugoi in Nairobi. | 内罗毕的理查德·库戈伊. |
| 203 | Now, you may have heard about a novel idea to allow film fans to watch their favorite | 现在,你可能听说过一个新想法 允许电影迷看他们最喜欢的 |
| 204 | movie as if for the first time by hypnotizing them so they forget the plot. | 电影好像第一次催眠他们 所以他们忘记了情节 |
| 205 | Well, on Monday, a cinema in the Netherlands tried it out with the Christopher Nolan | 周一 荷兰的一家电影院 和克里斯托弗·诺兰一起试镜 |
| 206 | blockbuster Interstellar. | 星际迷航 |
| 207 | So how did it go? | 怎么样? |
| 208 | Vanessa Heaney has been investigating. | 凡妮莎・海尼一直在调查 |
| 209 | You might have to decide between seeing your children again and the future of the human | 你可能不得不决定 再次见到你的孩子 和人类的未来 |
| 210 | race. | 种族。 |
| 211 | We'll find a way, but we always have. | 我们会想办法的 但我们总是这样 |
| 212 | Christopher Nolan's sci-fi epic Interstellar has a huge following. | 克里斯托弗·诺兰的科幻史诗"星际迷航"有着巨大的追随者. |
| 213 | The 30 fans who signed up to the experiment called Rewind by the film production company | 30名粉丝签约实验 被电影制作公司称为"倒风" |
| 214 | Pathé were all hoping to see it again as though for the first time. | Pathé都希望能再次看到它 就像第一次。 |
| 215 | Last week, the Chilean hypnotist Victor Kramer did one to one hypnosis sessions with them | 上周智利催眠师Victor Kramer 和他们做了一对一催眠手术 |
| 216 | from the comfort of their own homes. | 从舒适的家里。 |
| 217 | On Monday, they went to the screening in The Hague. | 星期一,他们在海牙参加了放映。 |
| 218 | Before the film started, the Russian hypnotist known as Alex the Great worked on putting | 在电影开始前,俄罗斯催眠师 被称为Alex the Great 致力于放置 |
| 219 | the audience into a trance. | 观众会变得很惊慌 |
| 220 | I gave them a little magical, sensational experience of illusion how hypnosis works, | 我给了他们一些神奇的,耸人听闻的幻觉体验 催眠是如何运作的, |
| 221 | something light and visual. | 光线和视觉 |
| 222 | And then we started inducing hypnosis. | 然后我们开始催眠 |
| 223 | It's changing frequency and brain waves like sleeping condition. | 它正在改变频率和脑波 像睡眠状态。 |
| 224 | I regressed them to the point where they never saw the movie. | 我把他们退到了他们从未看过电影的地步。 |
| 225 | Pathé Rewind说反应有好有坏。 | |
| 226 | Milo Meyleson在参与之前从未被催眠过。 | |
| 227 | He said it wasn't easy going into the trance as there were so many cameras in the cinema | 他说进入幻境并不容易 因为电影里有很多摄像头 |
| 228 | snapping photos, but he thinks he forgot about 70 percent of the film. | 拍下照片,但他认为他忘记了影片的70%. |
| 229 | There were some scenes that I could still remember, but most of the scenes I did forget. | 有一些场景我仍然记得,但大多数场景我确实忘记了. |
| 230 | And it was like watching the movie for the first time again with some scenes. | 这就像第一次看电影 与一些场景。 |
| 231 | That's why I find it so mind blowing that it worked. | 这就是为什么我发现它的心 吹它的工作。 |
| 232 | I've watched the movie four or five times before. | 我看过四五次电影 |
| 233 | So every emotion, every shock, it was in my memory still. | 所以,每一个情感,每一个震惊, 它仍然在我的记忆。 |
| 234 | But yesterday, when I sat at the theatre, I experienced the shock and the emotions again, | 但昨天,当我坐在剧院, 我再次经历了震惊和情绪, |
| 235 | like it was my first time watching it. | 就像这是我第一次看一样 |
| 236 | There were some scenes like the end of the movie that I could still remember. | 有一些场景,比如电影的结局,我仍然记得. |
| 237 | But most of the feelings, most of the emotions, they were brand new. | 但大多数感情,大多数情绪,都是全新的. |
| 238 | Boyd Aldick was also in the audience. | 博伊德·阿尔迪克也在观众席中. |
| 239 | It's really my number one favourite movie. | 这真是我最爱的电影 |
| 240 | So I really went there hoping I would forgot the whole movie plot and just sit there and be amazed by it | 所以,我真的去那里 希望我会忘记 整个电影情节 并只是坐在那里, 并惊讶它 |
| 241 | because it's a really beautiful film. | 因为它是一个非常美丽的电影。 |
| 242 | He last saw Interstellar six months ago, and this was his sixth time. | 他最后一次见到星际旅行是在六个月前 这是他的第六次 |
| 243 | But unfortunately, it didn't work. | 但不幸的是,没有成功. |
| 244 | The experience was quite something different than I ever did. | 经历和我以前完全不同 |
| 245 | I wouldn't say I completely forgot the whole movie, but I really enjoyed it. | 我不会说我完全忘记了整部电影, 但我真的很喜欢它。 |
| 246 | Seeing it again, maybe quite in a more calmer state or something. | 再次见到它,也许相当 在一个更平静的状态什么的。 |
| 247 | But I didn't forget the whole movie plot or anything when we got hypnotised. | 但我没有忘记整个电影情节什么的 当我们被催眠。 |
| 248 | Pathé Rewinds say the aim was not to cause memory loss or permanently erase memories, | Pathé Rewinds说,目的不是造成记忆丧失或永久抹去记忆, |
| 249 | but to explore whether hypnosis could help moviegoers experience the film with a fresh perspective. | 但探索催眠是否能帮助电影拍摄者以新视角体验电影. |
| 250 | Vanessa Heaney的报告。 | |
| 251 | And still to come on this podcast, we're talking about five hugely incredible sportswomen | 还是要来播客, 我们说的是五个令人难以置信的女运动员 |
| 252 | and their consistency is really what shone out, I think, for us to nominate them for this award. | 我认为,他们的一贯性正是我们提名他们获得这一奖项所显现出来的。 |
| 253 | We reveal the nominees for the 2026 BBC World Service Women's Footballer of the Year. | 我们透露了2026年BBC世界服务年度女子足球运动员提名人选. |
| 254 | You're listening to the Global News podcast. | 你听的是全球新闻播客 |
| 255 | Donald Trump has made no secret of his desire to end the war in Ukraine, even if it means | 唐纳德·特朗普对结束乌克兰战争的愿望没有秘密,即使这意味着 |
| 256 | handing over Ukrainian territory to Russia. | 将乌克兰领土移交给俄罗斯。 |
| 257 | So there can have been little surprise in Kiev when the US president said that Ukraine | 在基辅,美国总统说乌克兰 |
| 258 | would end up in a little bit of a different shape after the conflict. | 冲突结束后,情况会有所不同。 |
| 259 | Negotiators from Ukraine, Russia and America are meeting for the first time in nine months. | 来自乌克兰、俄罗斯和美国的谈判代表九个月来首次开会。 |
| 260 | As the talks opened in Abu Dhabi, Trump envoy Jared Kushner said the US hoped to create | 当谈判在阿布扎比开幕时,特朗普特使贾里德·库什纳说美国希望创造 |
| 261 | a new security framework that would ensure decades of peace. | 新的安全框架将确保数十年的和平。 |
| 262 | European powers have stressed that any settlement must include robust guarantees for Ukraine. | 欧洲列强强调,任何解决办法都必须包括对乌克兰的有力保障。 |
| 263 | Ukraine's chief delegate is Rustam Umarov. | 乌克兰首席代表为鲁斯塔姆·乌马罗夫. |
| 264 | Our delegation is committed to fruitful and productive negotiations. | 我国代表团致力于富有成效的谈判。 |
| 265 | We're committed. | 我们承诺了 |
| 266 | Our people are waking to end this war and would like to once again thank everybody for their support. | 我国人民正在醒来结束这场战争,并再次感谢大家的支持。 |
| 267 | Russia's foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, said Moscow would not agree to European demands | 俄罗斯外交部长谢尔盖·拉夫罗夫说,莫斯科不会同意欧洲的要求 |
| 268 | for an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine. | 乌克兰立即停火。 |
| 269 | So what can this meeting in Abu Dhabi achieve? | 那么,阿布扎比会议能取得什么成果? |
| 270 | Our correspondent, Abdul Jalil Abdur-Rasulov, is in the Ukrainian capital, Kiev. | 我们的记者阿卜杜勒·贾利勒·阿卜杜勒-拉苏洛夫在乌克兰首都基辅。 |
| 271 | So far, we haven't seen any signs that the positions of Kiev and Moscow on the issue | 到目前为止,我们还没有看到任何迹象表明 基辅和莫斯科在这个问题上的立场 |
| 272 | of territory have changed. | 领土已经改变。 |
| 273 | Moscow wants the entire region of Donbass in the east to be given to Russia and recognised | 莫斯科希望东边的唐巴斯地区 被赐予俄国并被承认 |
| 274 | as Russian. | 作为俄罗斯人。 |
| 275 | And Kiev is categorically against that. | 基辅对此坚决反对。 |
| 276 | They say that they want to have an unconditional ceasefire in place and also the security | 他们说,他们希望实现无条件停火以及安全 |
| 277 | guarantees before they can sit down and discuss the issue of territory. | 在他们坐下来讨论领土问题之前,有保证。 |
| 278 | However, the American officials say both sides have shown a bit of flexibility on this matter. | 然而,美国官员说双方在这个问题上表现出了一定的灵活性. |
| 279 | We still don't know what that means. | 我们还不知道那是什么意思 |
| 280 | Does President Trump's setback in the recent midterm elections change the calculation at | 特朗普总统在最近中期选举中的挫折是否改变了当时的计算。 |
| 281 | all? | 全部吗? |
| 282 | Because until now, he has seemed somewhat reluctant to put pressure on Vladimir Putin. | 因为直到现在,他似乎有些不愿意对弗拉基米尔·普京施加压力. |
| 283 | Well, the Ukrainian foreign minister has said that for Ukraine, nothing has changed because | 乌克兰外交部长说,对于乌克兰来说,没有什么变化,因为 |
| 284 | they still need to work with Washington, D.C. | 他们仍然需要与华盛顿特区合作。 |
| 285 | It doesn't matter who controls the American Congress, whether it will be Republicans or | 不管是谁控制了美国国会 不管是共和党还是 |
| 286 | Democrats, they still need American support to continue defending their land. | 民主党人,他们仍然需要美国的支持来继续保卫自己的土地. |
| 287 | And therefore, it is important for them to continue their bilateral relations and continue | 因此,它们必须继续维持双边关系,继续发展双边关系。 |
| 288 | getting American support. | 得到美国的支持。 |
| 289 | Of course, now, when President Trump has about two years before the end of his term, there | 当然,现在,当特朗普总统在任期结束前两年左右的时候, |
| 290 | is a fear in Ukraine that he may rush and reach a deal with the Russian side that will | 在乌克兰是一种恐惧 他可能会匆忙和俄国方面达成协议 |
| 291 | happen at the expense of Ukraine. | 以乌克兰为代价。 |
| 292 | President Trump already said that once the deal is in place, Ukraine may not have the | 特朗普总统已经说过,一旦达成协议,乌克兰可能没有 |
| 293 | same shape as it has today. | 和今天一样 |
| 294 | That means that probably the Ukraine will be forced to give up some of the territories | 这意味着乌克兰可能被迫放弃部分领土 |
| 295 | in the view of the American side. | 美国方面认为 |
| 296 | And this is, again, something that Kiev is totally against. | 这又是基辅完全反对的东西。 |
| 297 | They don't want to recognize any part of their land as Russian. | 他们不想承认自己土地的任何部分是俄国人. |
| 298 | They may agree on a temporarily ceasefire to freeze the conflict along the current | 他们可能商定暂时停火,以冻结目前冲突期间的冲突。 |
| 299 | front line. | 前线 |
| 300 | However, they adamant that no formal acknowledgment that those territories | 然而,他们坚持认为,没有正式承认这些领土 |
| 301 | belong to Russia will happen. | 是属于俄罗斯的 |
| 302 | Abdul Jalil Abderasulov in Kiev. | 基辅的阿卜杜勒·贾利勒·阿卜杜勒·阿卜杜拉苏洛夫. |
| 303 | When passengers on board the Odyssey cruise ship set off from Northern Ireland in October | 10月,奥德赛邮轮上的乘客从北爱尔兰启程 |
| 304 | 2024, they were expecting to visit around 150 countries over the course of at least | 2024年,他们预计至少将在2008年访问150个国家。 |
| 305 | three and a half years. | 三岁半 |
| 306 | But two years on, they've been left stranded in Cambodia and the vessel has now been | 但两年后,他们被滞留在柬埔寨 舰只现在已经 |
| 307 | seized in Singapore after its owners ran out of money. | 其所有者用完钱后在新加坡被扣押。 |
| 308 | Richard Hamilton told us more about the ship. | 理查德・汉密尔顿告诉我们更多关于飞船。 |
| 309 | It can take up to 600 passengers. | 最多可容纳600名乘客. |
| 310 | It's thought there were about 200 on board. | 以为机上约二百人. |
| 311 | The website says there's several bars and restaurants, a pool deck and a pickleball | 网站说有几家酒吧和餐馆,一个泳池甲板和一个泡菜球 |
| 312 | court. | 宫廷. |
| 313 | It was advertised as a trip of a lifetime. | 被宣传为一生之旅. |
| 314 | And passengers had the option of paying, actually buying a cabin outright for between | 而乘客可以选择支付, 实际购买一个小屋 直接之间 |
| 315 | one hundred to four hundred thousand dollars or renting a cabin for around three | 一百到四十万元 或者租三间小屋 |
| 316 | thousand dollars a month. | 一个月一千块 |
| 317 | But the big problem was that the Iran war caused, as we know, fuel prices around the | 但大问题是,正如我们所知,伊朗战争造成了燃料价格 |
| 318 | world to rocket. | {\fn华文仿宋\fs16\1cHD1D1D1}世界走向火箭 |
| 319 | And so the average price of fuel per passenger per month went up from eighteen hundred | 所以每个乘客每月平均燃料价格从1800美元上涨 |
| 320 | dollars to eight thousand dollars. | 八千块 |
| 321 | And the company said they tried to reduce fuel consumption, but that was insufficient | 公司说他们试图减少燃料消耗 但还不够 |
| 322 | to offset the extraordinary increase in fuel costs. | 以抵消燃料费用特别增加。 |
| 323 | And a firm of solicitors have been named in Singapore as arresting solicitors, | 在新加坡的一家律师事务所 被命名为逮捕律师 |
| 324 | presumably they're acting for the creditors of the company. | 大概是替公司的债权人做事 |
| 325 | And what has happened to the passengers? | 乘客们怎么了? |
| 326 | Well, last month they were just given seven hours to disembark. | 上个月他们刚得到7小时的上岸机会 |
| 327 | There was an abrupt message from the company saying it could no longer carry on | 公司突然传来消息 说不能再继续了 |
| 328 | operations. | 操作。 |
| 329 | And two hundred all the passengers on board got off at the port of Sihanouk | 两百名乘客在西哈努克港下车 |
| 330 | in Cambodia. | 在柬埔寨境内。 |
| 331 | They've been offered some temporary accommodation. | 他们得到了一些临时住宿。 |
| 332 | Many of them will be flying off to different parts of the world or making their way | 很多人会飞到世界各地 或走他们的道路 |
| 333 | home slowly. | 慢点回家 |
| 334 | And the port authority said the crew are reported to be well. | 港务局说船员们都很好 |
| 335 | There's some 50 crew members still on the boat and their welfare is being managed by | 船上还有约50名船员 他们的福利由我们管理 |
| 336 | the vessel's creditors. | 船的债权人。 |
| 337 | And things went wrong right from the start. | 事情从一开始就发生了错误 |
| 338 | Exactly. | 没错 |
| 339 | There have been so many problems, like a catalogue of errors, really. | 有很多问题,比如错误的目录。 |
| 340 | The departure was delayed by four months at the beginning from Belfast because of | 最初从贝尔法斯特出发延误了四个月,原因是 |
| 341 | repairs needed to the vessel and paperwork as well. | 船只和文书也需要修理。 |
| 342 | And then in Vietnam, bizarrely, crew members were seeing hopping off the boat | 然后在越南,奇怪的是, 船员们看到跳船 |
| 343 | and buying food from local grocery stores after a supplier refused to deliver any | 在一家供货商拒绝交付食品后,从当地杂货店购买食品。 |
| 344 | more food, saying they'd not been paid. | 更多的食物,说他们没有得到支付。 |
| 345 | Just as in the original Odyssey, Odysseus had to face monsters like the Cyclops | 就像最初的奥德赛一样,奥德修斯必须面对独眼巨人般的怪物 |
| 346 | and witches and whirlpools. | 女巫和旋风 |
| 347 | It seems that the passengers on board the Odyssey have had to deal with their own | 看来奥德赛号上的乘客 不得不自己处理 |
| 348 | extraordinary obstacles and setbacks. | 非凡的障碍和挫折。 |
| 349 | Richard Hamilton, for the past 12 years, the BBC World Service has been celebrating | 理查德·汉密尔顿 在过去的12年里 英国广播公司世界服务社一直在庆祝 |
| 350 | the best of women's football with an annual award for the best player. | 获得年度最佳球员奖最佳女子足球奖. |
| 351 | Well, a panel of coaches, journalists and former professionals has now come up with | 嗯,一个教练小组,记者和前专业人士 现在想出了 |
| 352 | the shortlist for the 2026 BBC World Service Women's Footballer of the Year. | 英国广播公司2026年世界服务年女子足球运动员短名单. |
| 353 | The five nominees will now be put to a public vote. | 五名被提名者现在将公开投票。 |
| 354 | Who is your choice for the BBC Women's Footballer of the Year 2026? | 英国广播公司2026年女子足球运动员 你选谁? |
| 355 | It's so amazing because it's our first time to go to the World Cup, not only for me and | 这太神奇了 因为这是我们第一次参加世界杯 不仅仅是我和 |
| 356 | my sister, but for the whole country, Malawi. | 我妹妹,但对于整个国家,马拉维。 |
| 357 | Oh, what a brilliant finish. | 哦,多么辉煌的结局。 |
| 358 | Tenwa Chowinga目前无法停止得分。 | |
| 359 | Malawi's remarkable fairytale run at the Women's Africa Cup of Nations continues after | 马拉维在女子非洲国家杯的精彩童话演出在之后继续进行。 |
| 360 | the tournament debutants reach their first ever final. | 锦标赛的参赛者们达到了他们有史以来第一次的决赛. |
| 361 | So I just like dream come true. | 所以我喜欢梦想成真 |
| 362 | It was like when I was young, I never think I could have been this level, like people | 就像我年轻的时候,我从不认为自己能达到这个水平,就像人一样 |
| 363 | to know me like that. | 来了解我 |
| 364 | Sometimes I just like think like if I listen to my mum, like now I cannot behave, I just | 有时候我只喜欢想 如果我听我妈的话, 像现在,我不能表现,我只是 |
| 365 | be Malawi, like doing like maybe nothing. | 马拉维,就像做 像也许什么都没有。 |
| 366 | Driven shot, Pajor, Barcelona have the equaliser. | 帕杰,巴塞隆纳有平衡器 |
| 367 | It's special year for me, for the team, because we did something big. | 今年对我来说,对球队来说是特别的一年,因为我们做了一件大事. |
| 368 | We won four titles. | 我们赢得了四个头衔。 |
| 369 | Pajor! | 帕乔! |
| 370 | Barcelona have the breakthrough. | 巴塞罗那有突破 |
| 371 | And of course, it had to be Eva Pajor. | 当然 一定是伊娃·帕杰 |
| 372 | When I was a small girl, I don't know that I can play football professionally because | 当我还是个小女孩的时候,我不知道我能踢足球是因为 |
| 373 | it was not like this. | 不是这样的 |
| 374 | This dream growing up with me, this kind of moment, they are very special for me. | 这个梦跟我一起长大,这种时刻, 他们对我非常特别. |
| 375 | Every moment was so emotional to be able to achieve 500 games in the Champions League | 每时每刻都充满感情 能在冠军联盟中实现500场比赛 |
| 376 | in Spotify, I can know winning four trophies was something special. | 在Spotify, 我知道赢得四个奖杯是特别的。 |
| 377 | Fantastic finish from Poteas. | 波提亚斯的精彩结局 |
| 378 | You wouldn't expect anything less. | 你不会期望任何更低的。 |
| 379 | I am who I am because of Barca. | 我之所以如此是因为巴尔卡 |
| 380 | I started playing there being a kid and I left being a woman. | 我开始在那里玩 小时候,我离开了一个女人。 |
| 381 | Playing at the Emirates and winning a trophy there feels really nice. | 在阿联酋打球 赢得奖杯 感觉真好 |
| 382 | And I hope it's something that we can continue to do. | 我希望我们能继续这样做。 |
| 383 | Arsenal needed a moment. | 阿森纳需要一点时间 |
| 384 | They needed a leader. | 他们需要一个领袖。 |
| 385 | Lesley Aruso stepped up to the plate. | 勒斯利·阿鲁索挺身而出. |
| 386 | I'm always so self-critical of myself and want to find the extra one percents. | 我总是如此自我批评自己,想要找到额外的1%。 |
| 387 | And I think that the staff as well push me to find those extra one percents. | 我认为工作人员也推我找到额外的1%。 |
| 388 | And when Manchester City score, inevitably it's Bonnie Shaw who scores. | 而曼彻斯特城得分时,必然是邦妮·肖得分. |
| 389 | Winning the league, the FA Cup, fastest hat-trick, 100 goals. | 夺得联赛,足协杯,最快的帽子-trick,进球100个. |
| 390 | The last 12 months for my career have been the best. | 我职业生涯的最后12个月是最好的。 |
| 391 | There is the hat-trick. | 那边是帽子尖 |
| 392 | 有比Bonnie Shaw更好的进球员吗? | |
| 393 | I'm not just doing it for me. | 我不只是为我这样做。 |
| 394 | I'm doing it for my country and the little girls who would like to be a Bonnie one day. | 我这样做是为了我的国家 和那些小女孩 谁想成为邦妮有一天。 |
| 395 | To vote, go to bbc.com slash women's football, where you'll also find the terms and privacy notice. | 要投票,请前往bbc.com斜线女子足球,在那里你也会找到条件和隐私通知. |
| 396 | It's your choice. | 这是你的选择。 |
| 397 | It's your champion. | 这是你的冠军。 |
| 398 | And voting closes on Wednesday, the 18th of November at nine hours GMT. | 而投票在11月18日格林尼治标准时段9点结束. |
| 399 | And that is all from us for now. | 这都是从我们这里来的。 |
| 400 | You can email us at globalpodcast at bbc.co.uk and watch our episodes in full on YouTube. | 你可以在bbc.co.uk的全球podcast给我们发电子邮件,并在YouTube上全文观看我们的节目。 |
| 401 | 这个版本由路易·格里芬(英语:Louis Griffin)混合,由妮基·维里科(英语:Nikki Verrico)制作. | |
| 402 | Our editor is Karen Martin. | 我们的编辑是凯伦・马丁。 |
| 403 | I'm Oliver Conway. | 我是奥利弗·康威 |
| 404 | Until next time. | 至下次时. |
| 405 | Goodbye. | 再见 |
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