【Oct.30】Business Today | BBC 今
字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
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| 0:04 | Well, let's get some business in you now. | 好吧,让我们得到一些业务你现在。 |
| 0:05 | Here's Sally with the top stories. | 这是莎莉的顶级故事。 |
| 0:07 | I am indeed. | 没错 |
| 0:07 | Thank you very much. | 谢谢 |
| 0:08 | Well, we're focused on the budget, of course, all the | 好吧,我们专注于预算, 当然,所有 |
| 0:10 | reaction to that budget that was delivered yesterday by the Chancellor John Healey. | 对约翰·希利总理昨天提出的预算的反应。 |
| 0:15 | Well, | 那个 |
| 0:15 | talking to the BBC, he has promised a reduction in the benefits bill, saying they'll do it | 他向英国广播公司保证 将减少福利费 说他们会的 |
| 0:21 | in the Labour way. | 在劳工的方式。 |
| 0:22 | This after opponents criticised his first budget for lacking details on welfare | 这是在反对者批评他的第一份预算 缺乏福利的细节之后 |
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| 1 | Well, let's get some business in you now. | 好吧,让我们得到一些业务你现在。 |
| 2 | Here's Sally with the top stories. | 这是莎莉的顶级故事。 |
| 3 | I am indeed. | 没错 |
| 4 | Thank you very much. | 谢谢 |
| 5 | Well, we're focused on the budget, of course, all the | 好吧,我们专注于预算, 当然,所有 |
| 6 | reaction to that budget that was delivered yesterday by the Chancellor John Healey. | 对约翰·希利总理昨天提出的预算的反应。 |
| 7 | Well, | 那个 |
| 8 | talking to the BBC, he has promised a reduction in the benefits bill, saying they'll do it | 他向英国广播公司保证 将减少福利费 说他们会的 |
| 9 | in the Labour way. | 在劳工的方式。 |
| 10 | This after opponents criticised his first budget for lacking details on welfare | 这是在反对者批评他的第一份预算 缺乏福利的细节之后 |
| 11 | reform. | 改革。 |
| 12 | He told the BBC, it's simply not good for Britain or progressive to have a bigger | 他告诉了英国广播公司 英国或进步主义 拥有更大的 |
| 13 | and bigger benefits bill, but ruled out crude cuts. | 和更大的福利法案, 但排除粗略削减。 |
| 14 | Here is the Chancellor speaking to the | 这位是首相 |
| 15 | Radio 4 Today programme. | "今日电台4"节目. |
| 16 | This system is unsustainable. | 这一制度是不可持续的。 |
| 17 | I've been clear about that. | 我很清楚这一点。 |
| 18 | Prime Minister | 总理 |
| 19 | has been clear about it. | 已经很清楚了。 |
| 20 | The question is what you do about it. | 问如何是道. |
| 21 | And with a million youngsters | 和一百万的年轻人 |
| 22 | now without work, without training, without education, we've got a moral duty to make | 现在没有工作,没有训练,没有教育, 我们有一个道德责任 |
| 23 | sure that they have the best opportunity and support to get a break. | 确保他们有最佳的机会和支持 获得休息。 |
| 24 | Two thirds of them | 三分之二 |
| 25 | have never worked. | 从来没有工作过。 |
| 26 | This is a chance to give them an opportunity to fulfil their potential, | 这是一次让他们有机会发挥潜力的机会, |
| 27 | but also contribute to the rest of the economy. | 但也为经济的其余部分做出了贡献。 |
| 28 | And we will expect, as we've done before, | 我们会期待,像以前一样, |
| 29 | that they take up the offers, take up the offers. | 他们接受报价,接受报价。 |
| 30 | And that's the way that we can bring | 这就是我们能带来的方式 |
| 31 | welfare bills down in the long term. | 从长远来看,福利账单会减少。 |
| 32 | I want to give you the chance to talk about other | 我想给你机会谈谈别的事 |
| 33 | things. | 东西。 |
| 34 | There will be cuts in welfare before the election. | 选举前福利将会减少. |
| 35 | We'll do that in a Labour way. | 我们会用工党的方式做到这一点。 |
| 36 | And we will do that because it is simply not good for Britain or progressive to have a | 我们将这样做,因为英国和进步派 拥有一个 |
| 37 | bigger and bigger benefits bill. | 更大的福利法案。 |
| 38 | And I feel a moral duty to deal with these youngsters | 我感到有道德责任对付这些年轻人 |
| 39 | at the moment have been written off by previous governments. | 目前,前几届政府均已注销。 |
| 40 | The Chancellor there, John Healy, | 总理约翰·希利 |
| 41 | speaking to the BBC's Nick Robinson after he delivered the budget. | 给英国广播公司的尼克·罗宾逊 在他递交预算之后 |
| 42 | So if we have a look | 所以,如果我们有一个看 |
| 43 | at some of the detail in it, there was a big focus on energy with several measures announced | 在其中的一些细节中,人们非常关注能源,宣布了若干措施 |
| 44 | to help with soaring bills and motoring costs, among them a headline grabbing £100 for millions | 帮助支付高涨的钞票和汽车成本, 其中一条头条抢走了100英镑的数百万 |
| 45 | of households. | 家庭数量。 |
| 46 | They're funded by a temporary doubling of the levy on bank profits from | 这笔钱是暂时将银行利润翻一番 |
| 47 | 3% to 6%. | 3%到6%。 |
| 48 | That starts in January and will last for 15 months. | 这始于1月,将持续15个月。 |
| 49 | Meanwhile, Mr Healy said | 同时,希利先生说 |
| 50 | he would set out how the government plans to meet its commitment to spend 3% of the | 他将阐述政府计划如何履行其承诺,将3%的资金用于 |
| 51 | national income on defence by 2030 at next year's spending review. | 在明年支出审查时,到2030年国防国民收入。 |
| 52 | So remember, of course, | 所以记住,当然, |
| 53 | that this was the Chancellor who was defence secretary and resigned in June over the government's | 这是总理 谁是国防部长 并在6月辞职 政府 |
| 54 | commitment to defence spending. | 承诺用于国防开支。 |
| 55 | The Office of Budget Responsibility, known as the OBR, | 预算责任办公室,简称OBR, |
| 56 | which is independent, has downgraded its growth forecast for the next year to 1%. | 已经将其下一年的增长预测降为1%。 |
| 57 | This was | 这是 |
| 58 | a budget with a lot of detail, a lot of tweaks and changes. | 一个预算,有很多细节, 很多微调和变化。 |
| 59 | Here's our economics editor, | 这是我们的经济编辑 |
| 60 | Faisal Islam, 他首先看一看开支的公告。 | |
| 61 | The budget gives | 预算提供 |
| 62 | us a new picture of what's going on in the economy. | 经济的新情况 |
| 63 | Look here behind me at the blizzard | 看着我后面的暴风雪 |
| 64 | of numbers reflecting global shocks, the impact here, and dozens of these quite small | 反映全球冲击的数字、影响和其中数十个 |
| 65 | decisions from the Chancellor today, affecting the economy, the interest costs, the amount | 影响经济 利息成本 金额 |
| 66 | of borrowing too. | 也是借钱 |
| 67 | Now, this is the budget effectively in one chart. | 这是一张图表中有效的预算。 |
| 68 | It gives us a sense | 它给我们一种感觉 |
| 69 | of the ins and outs of this Healy budget, extra taxes coming into the Treasury in 2930 | 2930年国库增税 |
| 70 | in red and money out, extra spending in green, including by the government's National Wealth | 红色和金钱 额外的绿色支出 包括政府的国家财富 |
| 71 | Fund, and the Chancellor's big decision to allow his room for manoeuvre to hit his borrowing | 基金,和大法官的大决定 允许他的回旋余地 打击他的借款 |
| 72 | rules, the buffer, to shrink from 22 billion to 15 billion, essentially the impact of cushioning | 规则,缓冲, 缩小 从220亿到150亿, 基本上 缓冲的影响 |
| 73 | the Iran war energy shock. | 伊朗战争的能量冲击。 |
| 74 | Let's get a rough sense of scale of the decisions today. | 今略明决定之规模. |
| 75 | You | 你们 |
| 76 | can see today's budget is smaller in terms of tax and spend than the last budget under | 可以看到,今天的预算在税收和开支方面都比上一个预算要小。 |
| 77 | Rachel Reeves and smaller again than her budget from 2024, far smaller. | 雷切尔·里夫斯(Rachel Reeves)和2024年的预算再次比她小得多,要小得多. |
| 78 | But there were dozens | 但有几十个 |
| 79 | of measures in 2930. | 2930年采取的措施。 |
| 80 | The big tax rises are a crackdown on tax avoidance, two billion | 税额大涨是对避税的镇压 20亿 |
| 81 | pounds, and property and saving tax rise of one billion pounds in total. | 财产和储蓄税总共增加了10亿英镑。 |
| 82 | The billion pound | 亿英镑 |
| 83 | bank tax hits earlier. | 更早的时候银行的税额 |
| 84 | The big spending increase will actually be in the current year. | 支出的大幅增加实际上将在今年。 |
| 85 | Energy | 能源 |
| 86 | support as we've been hearing through a new household energy payment worth £100 for 20 | 支持我们通过 新的家庭能源支付 价值100英镑的20 |
| 87 | million households in council tax bounds A to D, £2.6 billion cost. | 议会税的一百万户,从A到D, 26亿英镑的成本。 |
| 88 | Standing charges | 常备费用 |
| 89 | will be abolished, but not until late next year. | 将会被废除,但直到明晚。 |
| 90 | And that benefits most users, low users | 这有利于大多数用户, 低用户 |
| 91 | especially, but it will cost higher gas users more, with higher unit prices. | 特别是,但它会花费更高的煤气用户, 和较高的单价。 |
| 92 | These so-called | 这些所谓的 |
| 93 | breathing space measures will help, but are likely to be swallowed up by the coming rise | 呼吸空间措施将有所帮助,但有可能被即将来临的上升吞噬 |
| 94 | in energy bills worth hundreds of pounds a year. | 一年价值数百磅的能源账单 |
| 95 | All in all, this will hit living standards | 归根结底,这将打击生活水平 |
| 96 | in the coming years, say the official forecasters, the OBR. | 未来几年,官方预测者,OBR。 |
| 97 | The big picture I'm afraid is a rather | 我担心大局是 |
| 98 | depressing one, which is that by 2029, in other words 10 years on from the pandemic, | 令人沮丧的是,到2029年,换句话说,在这种流行病流行10年后, |
| 99 | that measure of income will only have grown a percent over an entire decade. | 10年来,这个收入标准只会增长一个百分点。 |
| 100 | And that's | 这是 |
| 101 | a very poor historical performance. | 一个非常糟糕的历史表现。 |
| 102 | Now, what about borrowing? | 现在,借款怎么办? |
| 103 | The Chancellor is still cutting | 丞相还在砍 |
| 104 | borrowing over the years, but notably more slowly and more borrowing in each year than | 这些年的借款,但值得注意的是,每年的借款比 |
| 105 | previously forecast. | 先前预测。 |
| 106 | And this path still requires a squeeze on public spending and finding money | 这条路仍然需要挤压公共开支和找钱 |
| 107 | for defence. | 辩护。 |
| 108 | Part of the problem already, an £11 billion increase in annual interest | 问题的一部分,年息增加110亿英镑 |
| 109 | bills caused by rising government borrowing costs. | 政府借贷成本上升引起的法案。 |
| 110 | So, what happened to these rates today | 那么,今天这些利率发生了什么 |
| 111 | in markets? | 在市场上? |
| 112 | Well, they were flat actually, and a little bit down actually as the Chancellor | 其实,他们很平坦, 和一点点下 实际上作为总理 |
| 113 | spoke. | 说话 |
| 114 | Traders were unmoved or unsurprised despite tens of billions in extra borrowing. | 贸易商们虽然多借了数百亿美元,却无动于衷或毫无惊奇。 |
| 115 | A relief there for number 11. | 11号的救济 |
| 116 | And the economy generally, all in all a mixed picture, a small | 总体来说,经济是混合的,小的 |
| 117 | upgrade for growth this year. | 今年增长升级。 |
| 118 | You heard a lot about that from the Chancellor and also | 你从大法官那里听说很多 |
| 119 | in the medium term up a bit, but a hard hit here from the energy prices next year. | 中产期会提高一点 但明年能源价格的打击很大 |
| 120 | So, | 这么说 |
| 121 | there are so many small decisions and impacted sectors from house building forecasts, for | 从房屋建筑预测来看,有这么多小的决定和受影响的部门。 |
| 122 | example, which are down and now off target. | 例子,它们正在下降,现在没有目标。 |
| 123 | The tax takers are high, debt higher, an array | 收税者高,债高,数列 |
| 124 | of measures to help some, not all of the Iran war energy shock and a lingering question | 帮助伊朗战争中某些人,而不是所有的能源冲击的措施,以及一个悬而未决的问题 |
| 125 | about how long these forecasts, these numbers will stand if the Iran war gets worse. | 如果伊朗战争愈演愈烈, |
| 126 | Faisal | 费萨尔 |
| 127 | Islam there, our economics editor. | 伊斯兰教在那里,我们的经济学编辑。 |
| 128 | So, what's been the reaction? | 那么,有什么反应? |
| 129 | Well, it's all been very | 嗯,这都是非常 |
| 130 | mixed actually. | 其实是混合的 |
| 131 | There were, as Faisal was saying there, there were no surprises for | 正如费萨尔所说,没有意外 |
| 132 | the financial markets. | 金融市场。 |
| 133 | And interestingly, the banking stocks and gambling companies | 有趣的是,银行股票和赌博公司 |
| 134 | listed in London actually saw their shares rise following the budget because it did not | 在伦敦市面上市时 他们的股票在预算之后上涨 因为没有 |
| 135 | deliver the blow or the level of tax, punitive taxes on their industries that some were | 提供打击或税额,对其行业征收惩罚性税,有些行业是 |
| 136 | predicting. | 预测 |
| 137 | James Smith, who's a UK economist at ING, gave me his take on the budget. | 英国经济学家詹姆斯·史密斯(James Smith)给我预算。 |
| 138 | Well, I think it was the boring budget that everybody predicted, right? | 我想这是大家预测的无聊预算,对吧? |
| 139 | But sometimes | 但有时 |
| 140 | boring is not a bad thing. | 无聊不是坏事 |
| 141 | There's a lot of things going on in the world as we're just | 世间多事如来正等觉. |
| 142 | hearing the rise in energy prices and the rise in borrowing costs is a particular issue | 能源价格上涨和借贷成本上升是一个特殊问题 |
| 143 | for the UK. | 代表英国 |
| 144 | So, this was a budget both for voters, of course, with the energy support, | 所以,这是一个预算 对于选民,当然, 与能源支持, |
| 145 | but really for the bond market too. | 但也是为了债券市场 |
| 146 | And there's a lot to like for investors here. | 这里有很多投资者喜欢。 |
| 147 | The budget | 预算 |
| 148 | deficit is still coming down over the next few years. | 今后几年赤字仍在下降。 |
| 149 | And crucially, there's nothing here that's | 关键是 这里什么都没有 |
| 150 | going to make life more difficult for the Bank of England as it's just days away from raising | 让英格兰银行的生活更加艰难 因为离成长还有几天 |
| 151 | interest rates. | 利率。 |
| 152 | But when you looked at the OBR report, which looked at what is ahead, some of | 但当你看OBR报告时, 报告审视了未来 |
| 153 | the numbers were pretty eye watering, including the amount of money the government has to spend | 包括政府必须花费的金钱 |
| 154 | to service its debt going forward. | 继续偿还债务。 |
| 155 | That's gone up exponentially, it would seem. | 这似乎指数上升了。 |
| 156 | Yeah, this is something the government is really having to reckon with as our governments around | 是的,这是政府真正需要考虑的 因为我们的政府周围 |
| 157 | the world, those higher debt interest costs, as you say, pushing up borrowing by sort of | 举世瞩目,这些高额债务利息成本,就像你说的, 推高借贷方式 |
| 158 | 14 billion pounds over the next year or so. | 次年前后一百四十亿斤. |
| 159 | I think the fact that the government has pushed | 我认为政府已经推动 |
| 160 | back a lot of the tough decisions on defence, how is defence going to be funded, on things like | 许多关于国防的艰难决定 如何为国防提供资金 |
| 161 | social care and these other issues, suggests that they're hoping, praying that those borrowing | 社会关怀和这些其它问题 表明他们希望,祈祷那些借款 |
| 162 | costs come down over the next year or so, making the decisions a little bit less unpalatable at the | 成本在下一年左右下降, 使决定 少一点点令人不快 |
| 163 | next spending review. | 下一次支出审查。 |
| 164 | Well, of course, the Bank of England will have its next meeting next week. | 当然,英国银行下周会举行下次会议 |
| 165 | So Andrew Bailey and his team, of course, will be digesting the budget, what it means for the | 因此,安德鲁·贝利和他的团队,当然, 将消化预算, |
| 166 | UK economy, what it means for their decision making on the cost of borrowing going forward. | 英国经济,对于他们未来借款成本的决策意味着什么. |
| 167 | How are businesses reacting to all of this? | 企业对这一切的反应如何? |
| 168 | Well, I spoke to Lord Billamoria, who's founder of | 我和比拉莫里亚勋爵谈过了 他的创始人 |
| 169 | Cobra Beer. | 眼镜蛇啤酒。 |
| 170 | He's now chairman of the International Chambers of Commerce UK | 他现在是英国国际商会主席 |
| 171 | and said that largely he welcomed the budget in contrast to the two previous Labour budgets. | 他说,与前两次劳工预算相比,他基本上欢迎预算。 |
| 172 | I'm actually very relieved. | 我其实很放心。 |
| 173 | If you take the last two budgets of this government, the Rachel Reeves | 如果你拿了政府最后两笔预算 瑞秋·里夫 |
| 174 | budgets, they were really, really painful for business. | 预算对企业来说真的很痛苦 |
| 175 | They put up taxes in a huge way, | 他们以巨大的方式征税, |
| 176 | which has been a big burden on business. | 这给企业带来了沉重的负担。 |
| 177 | So we now have our taxes in the UK at the highest | 现在我们在英国的税收最高 |
| 178 | level since the Second World War. | 自第二次世界大战以来的水平。 |
| 179 | We've got increased borrowing. | 我们的借款增加。 |
| 180 | We've got unemployment | 我们失业了 |
| 181 | that is about five percent at the moment. | 这大约是目前5%。 |
| 182 | And we were worried in this budget, there was talk of | 我们在这个预算中很担心 有人说 |
| 183 | equating capital gains tax with income tax, which have been absolutely disastrous for investment. | 将资本收益税与所得税等同起来,所得税对投资是绝对灾难性的。 |
| 184 | Thankfully, none of those things we were worried about have actually happened in this budget. | 值得庆幸的是,我们所担心的这些事情在本预算中并没有发生。 |
| 185 | And we at the International Chamber of Commerce, sorry, go on. | 我们在国际商会,对不起,继续。 |
| 186 | We at the International Chamber | 我们国际会议厅 |
| 187 | of Commerce, it's the largest business organisation in the world, we focus on trade. | 这是世界上最大的商业组织 我们专注于贸易 |
| 188 | And Britain is a | 英国是一个 |
| 189 | trading nation. | 贸易国。 |
| 190 | Trade makes up the equivalent of 60 percent of our GDP. | 贸易占国内生产总值的60%。 |
| 191 | And to that extent, | 就此而言, |
| 192 | this budget has been helpful. | 这份预算很有帮助。 |
| 193 | There's help for trade finance. | 贸易融资有帮助. |
| 194 | There's movement towards digitising | 数字化的趋势 |
| 195 | trade that makes it much cheaper and quicker, saving billions of pounds and what takes three | 更便宜、更快 节省数十亿英镑 需要三英镑 |
| 196 | months can be done in minutes. | 几个月可以 几分钟。 |
| 197 | And on top of that, this has been a surprisingly entrepreneur-friendly | 除此之外,这是 一个令人惊讶的企业家友好 |
| 198 | budget where there's relief of 10 million pounds for founders who build business and they pay only | 给开业的创始人 提供1000万英镑的救济, 他们只付 |
| 199 | 10 percent capital gains tax. | 10%的资本收益税。 |
| 200 | There's 20 billion pounds being given to the British Business Bank | 有200亿英镑给英国商业银行 |
| 201 | for entrepreneurs to actually invest in. | 让企业家们真正投资 |
| 202 | This is great news. | 这是好消息。 |
| 203 | Small and medium-sized enterprises, | 中小型企业, |
| 204 | only one in eight of them actually export. | 其中只有八分之一的出口 |
| 205 | We now can help these businesses export more. | 我们现在可以帮助这些企业更多地出口。 |
| 206 | But, and this is the big but, the next year is a very important year. | 但是,这是大,但是,明年是一个非常重要的一年。 |
| 207 | We've got growth, by the way. | 顺便说一句,我们有成长。 |
| 208 | And in the geopolitical situation that we have now, since the Ukraine War four and a half years | 在乌克兰战争四年半以来的地缘政治形势下 |
| 209 | ago, since the Iran War in February this year, it is actually remarkable that we are managing | 自从今年2月的伊朗战争以来 我们管理着 |
| 210 | to keep our head above water and we're the second fastest growing economy in the G7. | 保持我们的头在水之上, 我们是第二增长最快的经济 在G7。 |
| 211 | So, are you concerned about what's ahead in the new year with the spending review to come | 所以,你是否关心 未来一年的未来 未来支出审查 |
| 212 | and what new announcements may come? | 还会有什么新消息? |
| 213 | I am actually so relieved. | 我其实很放心。 |
| 214 | Most importantly, | 最重要的是,我们... |
| 215 | the bond markets, which you'd remember a few years ago when there was a budget that | 债券市场,你会记得几年前 当时有一个预算 |
| 216 | wanted to cut taxes, wanted to generate growth, but had not had it backed up by the Office of | 想要减税,想创造增长,但没有得到难民署的支持。 |
| 217 | Budget Responsibility. | 预算责任。 |
| 218 | The bond markets didn't like it. | 债券市场不喜欢它。 |
| 219 | Our interest rates rocketed. | 我们的利率暴涨。 |
| 220 | In fact, | 事实上, |
| 221 | even now, Britain has very high borrowing rates. | 即使现在,英国的借款率也非常高. |
| 222 | If you look at 30 year, it's 6%. | 若观三十年即是六分. |
| 223 | There are other | 还有别的 |
| 224 | countries like Greece that borrow less than we do. | 像希腊这样的贷款比我们少的国家 |
| 225 | That should not be the case for a country like | 一个国家就不应该这样 |
| 226 | Britain, which is the sixth largest economy in the world, which is actually a really powerful | 英国是世界第六大经济体 事实上它是一个真正的强国 |
| 227 | economy with great talent, great skills, the best universities in the world, along with the United | 拥有高超的人才、高超的技巧、 世界上最优秀的大学 以及联合大学 |
| 228 | States of America. | 美利坚合众国。 |
| 229 | We should be doing much better than that. | 我们应该做得更好 |
| 230 | But this budget has not in any way scared | 但这个预算丝毫没有害怕 |
| 231 | the markets. | 市场。 |
| 232 | It's reassuring in that sense. | 从这个意义上讲,这是令人放心的。 |
| 233 | But we've got to make those tough decisions. | 但是我们必须做出这些艰难的决定。 |
| 234 | And we can't run away from that. | 我们不能逃避它。 |
| 235 | And I have confidence that we will be able to, I'm very | 我有信心,我们将能够,我非常 |
| 236 | relieved at the moment. | 现时解脱. |
| 237 | Lord Billimoria there, who did pause for breath. | Billimoria勋爵在那里, 他停下来呼吸。 |
| 238 | He did. | 没错 |
| 239 | He is the chairman | 他是会长 |
| 240 | of the International Chambers of Commerce UK. | 联合王国国际商会 |
| 241 | It was really interesting to get different feedback | 得到不同的反馈真的很有趣 |
| 242 | from different experts and leaders in business. | 来自不同的商业专家和领导人。 |
| 243 | One more on the budget now. | 现在再加一个预算 |
| 244 | The Chancellor, | 总理, |
| 245 | John Healy, said that he will reduce the benefits bill in a Labour way, as opponents criticised him | 约翰 Healy说,他会以工党的方式减少福利法案,因为反对者批评他 |
| 246 | for failing to announce a reform of the welfare system in yesterday's budget. | 因为没有在昨天的预算中宣布福利制度的改革。 |
| 247 | In an interview with | 在接受采访时 |
| 248 | Nick Robinson on the Today programme on Radio 4, Mr Healy acknowledged that the current system | 尼克·鲁滨逊在4号电台的 " 今天 " 节目中,希利先生承认目前的系统 |
| 249 | was unsustainable. | 是不可持续的。 |
| 250 | Let's listen to what he had to say. | 听听他怎么说 |
| 251 | You spoke in your budget speech of a global | 你在预算演讲中谈到全球 |
| 252 | economic storm. | 经济风暴. |
| 253 | There are some who think that your response to that storm looks more like the | 有些人认为你对这场风暴的反应 更像是 |
| 254 | response to a rain shower than anything dramatic. | 对雨雨的反应 比任何戏剧性的。 |
| 255 | Global economic storms, the Iran war, trade tensions, Russia's invasion of Ukraine now nearly | 全球经济风暴、伊朗战争、贸易紧张、俄罗斯对乌克兰的入侵 |
| 256 | into its final part of the fifth year. | 进入第五年的最后阶段。 |
| 257 | These are economic storms and economic shocks. | 这些是经济风暴和经济冲击。 |
| 258 | They're | 他们是 |
| 259 | hitting countries worldwide, but they are hitting us here at home. | 袭击了全世界的国家,但是他们正袭击我们在家里。 |
| 260 | And people are feeling it. | 和人们的感觉。 |
| 261 | They're | 他们是 |
| 262 | seeing it in the prices at the pumps. | 在水泵的价格中看到它。 |
| 263 | They're seeing it on their energy bills. | 他们在他们的能源账单上看到它。 |
| 264 | They're seeing | 他们看到 |
| 265 | the costs of new mortgages. | 新的抵押贷款费用。 |
| 266 | And whilst it's hitting household loans, it's hitting business | 当它打击家庭贷款, 它打击企业 |
| 267 | loans, it's also hitting government costs as well. | 贷款,这也打击了政府成本。 |
| 268 | And what I confirmed yesterday was the | 我昨天确认的是 |
| 269 | officer's budget responsibility said the conflicts are largely driving this and the cost of service | 军官的预算责任说,冲突主要是促成这种情况和服务费用。 |
| 270 | in the government debt has gone up by 14 billion pounds this year because of that, because of those | 今年的政府债务增加了140亿英镑, 原因是这些 |
| 271 | factors. | 因素。 |
| 272 | Your big announcement, your big measure was 100 pound off energy bills for some, not all | 你的宣布,你的大计量 是100磅的能源账单 一些,不是全部 |
| 273 | households. | 住户。 |
| 274 | That's bound to be welcome for the people who are getting it, but they will then look | 这肯定会是欢迎的人 谁得到它,但他们会看到 |
| 275 | at the forecast of the bills rising by 276 pounds in January. | 1月份账单上涨276磅的预测。 |
| 276 | So we're not even, we're not going to | 所以我们不扯平,我们不 |
| 277 | even notice this. | 甚至注意到这一点。 |
| 278 | Well, it will be most households. | 嗯,这将是大多数的家庭。 |
| 279 | It'll be four in five households, 20 million | 五户四户,二千万 |
| 280 | households direct 100 pound payment into their bank accounts. | 家庭将100英镑的付款存入其银行账户。 |
| 281 | And this is a way that we can get | 这是我们可以得到的方法 |
| 282 | the money to these people at the time where they're going to be facing the early winter bills. | 给这些人的钱 在他们要面对 冬季早期的账单。 |
| 283 | And the bills will be much higher than the 100 pounds though, won't they? | 账单会比100磅高很多,不是吗? |
| 284 | Well, possibly three | 嗯,可能三个 |
| 285 | times and going up again. | 时间又往上 |
| 286 | But I do want to be honest with people. | 但我确实想对人诚实 |
| 287 | Government can never remove | 政府永远不能清除 |
| 288 | completely the cost of living pressures that people feel. | 完全为人们所感受到的生活压力付出的代价。 |
| 289 | We can help where we can and that's | 我们能帮助我们的地方,这是 |
| 290 | what I'm doing with creating a bit of breathing space for these households with this new household | 我在为这些有新家庭的家庭创造呼吸空间 |
| 291 | energy payment. | 能源支付。 |
| 292 | I'm asking the banks to help fund that and that's a political choice. | 我要求银行帮助提供资金,这是政治选择。 |
| 293 | But also you've got independent experts like Martin Lewis saying, well look, 100 pounds is likely | 但你也有像马丁·刘易斯这样的独立专家 说,看,100磅很可能 |
| 294 | to be the, at least for the sort of winter increase. | 至少在冬季增加的时候 |
| 295 | And alongside that we're extending the | 与此同时,我们正在扩展 |
| 296 | VAT cut on electricity bills and also I'm going to remove standing charges on gas bills next year. | 增值税削减电费 明年我还要取消 天然气费的长期收费 |
| 297 | So there's a long list and you say the banks are paying for it, but there are other people | 所以,有一个长的清单 你说银行正在支付, 但还有其他人 |
| 298 | paying for it, aren't there? | 付钱,不是吗? |
| 299 | And we all pay if the banks get tax because we get lower rates of | 如果银行收税,我们都付账 因为我们得到较低的利率 |
| 300 | saving. | 保存 。 |
| 301 | But you're also increasing the tax on savers. | 但你也增加了对储蓄者的税收。 |
| 302 | You are increasing the tax on landlords. | 你要增加房东的税收 |
| 303 | You are going to mean, some of the measures that you've announced, that sole traders end up paying | 你是指,你宣布的一些措施, 独家交易商最终支付 |
| 304 | more tax. | 更多税。 |
| 305 | It's not just the banks, is it? | 这不仅仅是银行,是吗? |
| 306 | So I am having to ask more from some. | 因此,我不得不向一些人提出更多的要求。 |
| 307 | So I am doing that, | 所以我这样做, |
| 308 | but I'm protecting income that's earned through employment. | 但我在保护通过就业获得的收入 |
| 309 | I'm protecting income that's earned | 我在保护挣来的收入 |
| 310 | through dividends because that's part of business investment for the future. | 通过股息 因为那是未来商业投资的一部分 |
| 311 | And what I'm trying to | 以及我试图 |
| 312 | do is ensure that where we are relieving the cost of business or relieving the cost of living | 也就是说,当我们降低商业成本或降低生活成本时, |
| 313 | with a budget that does offer a bit of breathing space, I'm doing that in the fairest possible | 预算确实能提供一点喘息空间 我在尽可能的公平中这样做 |
| 314 | bakeries, the cafes, the pubs, out of business rates altogether for the next two years. | 面包店 咖啡馆 酒吧 未来两年的营业费 完全没了 |
| 315 | I'm asking online sellers, I'm asking gambling and I'm asking vape shops to help pay for those | 我问网上卖家,我问赌博,我问流浪店 帮助支付这些 |
| 316 | costs as well, just like I'm asking the banks to pay a bit more in order temporarily to help with | 成本也一样,就像我要求银行多付一点 以便暂时帮助 |
| 317 | this living costs for the energy costs for households. | 家庭能源成本的生活费。 |
| 318 | But why on earth punish savers? | 但为何要惩罚救世主? |
| 319 | Why on earth punish landlords at a time when rents have been at record highs at the likelihood is | 为什么在租金创历史新高的时候惩罚房东? |
| 320 | either remove their property from being rented or they'll put the rent up? | 要么把他们的地产搬走 要么他们把租金上调? |
| 321 | Because my priority has been to try and protect earned income through employment | 因为我的重中之重是通过就业来保护收入 |
| 322 | and dividend income, which is often part of business investment. | 和红利收入,这往往是商业投资的一部分。 |
| 323 | Let's look at the backdrop to all this then, the bigger picture if you like, | 让我们来看看背景 这一切,然后, 更大的画面如果你喜欢, |
| 324 | those economic storms. | 那些经济风暴。 |
| 325 | Everyone accepts that the war in Iran is not of your making, | 每个人都承认伊朗的战争不是你们造成的, |
| 326 | the war in Ukraine is not of your making, but Britain has problems in addition to anything | 乌克兰的战争不是你们制造的 但英国除了什么问题之外还有问题 |
| 327 | that's happening in the world, doesn't it? | 世界正在发生,不是吗? |
| 328 | Inflation is going up, it's higher than other | 通货膨胀在上升,比其他高 |
| 329 | countries, our debt is high, our borrowing is high and is due to go up every year and we pay, | 国家,我们的债务是高的, 我们的借款是高的, 并且应该每年上升,我们支付, |
| 330 | and you alluded to it, a lot more to service our debt, a lot more interest, if you like, | 你提到它, 更多的还债, 更多的利息,如果你喜欢, |
| 331 | on the government's borrowing than any other country. | 关于政府借款 超过任何其他国家。 |
| 332 | I mean, we pay more than Greece | 我的意思是,我们付出比希腊多 |
| 333 | currently pays to borrow more. | 现付多借. |
| 334 | These are problems created at home, aren't they? | 这些都是在家里造成的问题,不是吗? |
| 335 | Not created abroad. | 未在国外创建. |
| 336 | Well, first of all, the best economic policy for Britain would be a peace settlement in | 首先,英国最好的经济政策是和平解决 |
| 337 | the Middle East and an end to the Iran war and we're working where we can to try and support that. | 中东和伊朗战争的结束 我们正在尽力支持它 |
| 338 | Secondly, it's certainly true that the UK's borrowing costs since Liz Trust's economic | 第二,英国自利兹信托公司以来的借款成本 |
| 339 | budget crashed the economy and collapsed confidence in Britain. | 预算使经济崩溃,对英国的信心崩溃。 |
| 340 | We've been paying a premium that | 我们付了一笔保险费 |
| 341 | I'm afraid the markets call a moron premium. | 恐怕市场都叫低能 |
| 342 | And we're now paying more, more even than when Liz | 现在比丽兹还多 |
| 343 | Trust was Prime Minister. | 信任是总理。 |
| 344 | And part of what the world has been facing has been an increase in | 世界面临的一部分是, |
| 345 | borrowing costs for all governments and that's gone up for all governments and other governments | 所有政府的借贷成本 以及所有政府和其他政府的借贷成本 |
| 346 | have actually, and other countries, have been more at the centre of this storm. | 事实上,其他国家更是这场风暴的中心。 |
| 347 | We can't avoid | 我们不能回避 |
| 348 | the storm but other countries and not Britain, unusually, has been at the centre of that storm | 但其他国家,而不是英国, 一直处于风暴的中心 |
| 349 | and a couple of weeks ago when it was at the International Monetary Fund, they looked at our | 几周前在国际货币基金组织的时候 他们看着我们 |
| 350 | performance in fiscal discipline and a plan for reducing the deficit, bringing borrowing costs | 财政纪律的执行情况和减少赤字的计划,带来借贷成本 |
| 351 | down and said, look, Britain is stand out. | 下来说,你看,英国是突出的。 |
| 352 | I stand out amongst G7 countries and my budget today | 我站在七国集团国家中间 今天的预算 |
| 353 | reinforces that. | 强化了这一点。 |
| 354 | It reinforces the fiscal discipline. | 它加强了财政纪律。 |
| 355 | Let's take welfare if we could. | 如果可以的话,就拿福利吧 |
| 356 | 19 billion pounds up in the year ahead. | 未来一年增加190亿磅. |
| 357 | That's the entire police budget for England and Wales. | 这就是英格兰和威尔士的警察预算 |
| 358 | That's the entire annual defence equipment budget. | 这就是全年国防装备预算. |
| 359 | And yet in your speech you said, | 但你在演讲中说 |
| 360 | well we've got a couple of reports coming next month, then we'll have a white paper, | 好了,我们得到了几个报告 下个月来,然后我们将有一个白皮书, |
| 361 | which in non-Westminster jargon means a consultation, then you'll have some legislation, | 在非威斯敏斯特语中意味着咨询, 然后你会有一些立法, |
| 362 | then you'll have a row in the Labour Party. | 然后在工党中排队 |
| 363 | You're not going to make any of these cuts | 你不会做这些削减 |
| 364 | for the next election, are you? | 下届选举,是吗? |
| 365 | First, I've said clearly, the Prime Minister said as well, | 首先,我很清楚,总理也说过, |
| 366 | we have to bring the benefits bill down. | 我们得把福利费付下来 |
| 367 | You don't do that by crude cuts, especially when | 特别是当... |
| 368 | people are feeling the cost of living pressures. | 人们感到生活压力的代价。 |
| 369 | We do have two big reports being produced next | 接下来我们有两份大报告 |
| 370 | month that will help us map out the way that we need to change the system for the long run. | 这个月将帮助我们规划出我们需要如何长期改变这个系统。 |
| 371 | We are in fact reducing and have been over the last two years the rate of increase in the Waste | 事实上,我们正在减少并在过去的两年里一直在减少废物的增加率。 |
| 372 | Welfare Bill compared to the previous period, I'm afraid to say, of a broken system the | 福利法案与前一个时期相比,我恐怕可以说, 一个破碎的系统, |
| 373 | Conservatives put in place. | 保守派设置. |
| 374 | So we're bringing back and have brought back face-to-face assessments, | 所以,我们带回来 并带回来 面对面的评估, |
| 375 | which they axed for instance. | 譬如说,他们用斧头钉住。 |
| 376 | We've been changing universal credit so people aren't branding | 我们一直在改变普世信用 这样人们就不会打牌了 |
| 377 | themselves as too sick to work in order to make that system work better. | 自己病得无法工作 来改善这个系统 |
| 378 | But you're reducing | 但你在减少 |
| 379 | the rate of increase in welfare spending. | 福利开支的增加率。 |
| 380 | I'm saying about the last couple of years with | 我说的是过去的几年 |
| 381 | pounds will be spent on welfare by 2030 or thereabouts. | 英镑将在2030年左右用于福利。 |
| 382 | You've got to make cuts, | 你得切开 |
| 383 | haven't you? | 是吗? |
| 384 | This system is unsustainable. | 这一制度是不可持续的。 |
| 385 | I've been clear about that. | 我很清楚这一点。 |
| 386 | The Prime Minister's been | 首相已经 |
| 387 | clear about it. | 说清楚了 |
| 388 | The question is what you do about it. | 问如何是道. |
| 389 | And with a million youngsters, now without | 和一百万年轻人,现在没有 |
| 390 | work, without training, without education, we've got a moral duty to make sure that they have the | 工作,没有训练,没有教育, 我们有一个道德义务 确保他们有 |
| 391 | best opportunity and support to get a break. | 最好的机会和支持 获得休息。 |
| 392 | Two-thirds of them have never worked. | 其中三分之二从未工作。 |
| 393 | This | 这个 |
| 394 | is a chance to give them an opportunity to fulfill their potential but also contribute | 是给他们机会实现他们的潜力,但也为 |
| 395 | to the rest of the economy. | 对经济的其余部分。 |
| 396 | And we will expect, as we've done before, that they take up the offers | 我们期待,像我们以前一样, 他们接受这些提议 |
| 397 | take up the offers and that's the way that we can bring welfare bills down in the long | 接受这些提议 这样我们就可以在很长一段时间里 将福利账单拿下来 |
| 398 | term. | 术语。 |
| 399 | Briefly because I want to give you the chance to talk about other things. | 简而言之,因为我想给你机会 谈谈其他的事情。 |
| 400 | There will | 会有的 |
| 401 | be cuts in welfare before the election. | 在选举前减少福利。 |
| 402 | There will be a reduction in the benefits bill. | 福利法案将会减少。 |
| 403 | We'll do that in a Labour way. | 我们会用工党的方式做到这一点。 |
| 404 | We'll | 我们会的 |
| 405 | do that in a Labour way. We'll do that in a Labour way. We'll do that in a Labour way. We'll do that | 以劳工的方式做到这一点。 我们会用工党的方式做到这一点。 我们会用工党的方式做到这一点。 我们来 |
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