高清版丨张爱玲1969年哈佛大学全英文演讲录音公开丨时隔半个

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时间	英文	中文
0:00	And very now, in my Chinese journal, the scourge of magic is to contact the novel or bring me the red jeans.	而现在,在我的中文期刊中,魔法的祸害是联系小说或者给我带来红色牛仔裤.
0:10	As a hit novel, I'm praised by Mr. Pan among others for contributing money to buy up and burn, and petitioning to have it banned permanently.	作为一部热门小说,我受到潘先生等人的赞扬,他们出资买下并烧掉,并请求永久禁止.
0:24	Later, it was banned for quite some time, initially.	后来,它被禁用了相当一段时间,最初.
0:29	But how can we stop the scourge of magic?	但是,我们如何制止魔法的祸害?
0:32	Yeah, the best thing to do is to prevent this technology and send you the broth.	最好的办法就是阻止这种技术并且把汤送给你
0:42	And an answer to the opium trade, as spreads poison among others.	和鸦片贸易的答案,因为扩散的毒药和其他人。
0:48	You will notice that it's assumed that all you have to do is shift both the broth and those two's damage.	你将注意到,它被假定你要做的只是转移肉汤和这两个的损伤。
0:56	There seems to be no conception of translation.	似乎没有翻译的概念。
1:00	China had been isolated for so long.	中国被隔离了这么久。
1:04	The Manchu emperors played down their foreign origins and did become assimilated.	满洲皇帝们玩弄外国血统,确实被同化.

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序号	英文	中文
1	And very now, in my Chinese journal, the scourge of magic is to contact the novel or bring me the red jeans.	而现在,在我的中文期刊中,魔法的祸害是联系小说或者给我带来红色牛仔裤.
2	As a hit novel, I'm praised by Mr. Pan among others for contributing money to buy up and burn, and petitioning to have it banned permanently.	作为一部热门小说,我受到潘先生等人的赞扬,他们出资买下并烧掉,并请求永久禁止.
3	Later, it was banned for quite some time, initially.	后来,它被禁用了相当一段时间,最初.
4	But how can we stop the scourge of magic?	但是,我们如何制止魔法的祸害?
5	Yeah, the best thing to do is to prevent this technology and send you the broth.	最好的办法就是阻止这种技术并且把汤送给你
6	And an answer to the opium trade, as spreads poison among others.	和鸦片贸易的答案,因为扩散的毒药和其他人。
7	You will notice that it's assumed that all you have to do is shift both the broth and those two's damage.	你将注意到,它被假定你要做的只是转移肉汤和这两个的损伤。
8	There seems to be no conception of translation.	似乎没有翻译的概念。
9	China had been isolated for so long.	中国被隔离了这么久。
10	The Manchu emperors played down their foreign origins and did become assimilated.	满洲皇帝们玩弄外国血统,确实被同化.
11	Some official documents were in both Manchu and Chinese, but then just a matter of form.	一些官方文件既用满文,也用中文,但后来只是形式问题.
12	The Buddhist translation from Sanskrit, the only significant study of Chinese translation, was over a thousand years ago in Holy Edith Hill.	梵语的佛教译本,是汉语译本唯一重要的研究,是一千多年前的圣伊迪丝山.
13	After the open war in the mid-19th century, under the mounting pressure of foreign aggression and exploitation,	在19世纪中叶的公开战争之后, 在外国侵略和剥削的不断增大的压力下,
14	it was desperate need for reform.	迫切需要改革。
15	At first, only an armament overturned the firm ship, the shark cannon.	起初只有武器推翻了公司船——鲨鱼炮台.
16	But even that was important for the corrupt monarchy.	但即使是这对腐败的君主制来说也是重要的.
17	The reform escaped demand constitutional monarchy, then downright revolution.	改革逃脱,要求君主立宪制,然后是直率革命.
18	Early this century, Yanfu translated Adam Smith, John Stuart Mill, Herbert Spencer, and Thomas Huxley, all in elegant classical Chinese, widely read.	本世纪初,延福翻译了亚当·斯密,约翰·斯图亚特·米尔,赫伯特·斯宾塞,托马斯·赫克斯利,都用优雅的古典中文写成,广泛阅读.
19	Taoist theory of natural selection became creatures compete, heaven choose.	道教的自然选择理论成为了生物竞争,天堂选择.
20	Sounds rather like confusion.	听起来很混乱
21	A frequent phrase in the writings of the time goes,	当时的写作中经常有一句
22	Western sages have a saying.	西方贤圣有言.
23	A quotation is probably more reliable than the American Confucius say.	引文可能比美国儒家说的更可靠.
24	A Chinese critic complained at about the end of the First World War.	一位中国评论家在第一次世界大战结束时抱怨.
25	Judging from the number of books translated, writer Haggard must be the greatest Western writer.	从翻译的书籍数量来看,作家哈格德一定是最伟大的西方作家.
26	I don't know if you have heard it.	我不知道你有没有听说过
27	I myself came across the name writer Haggard without realizing that he is none other than the great Hargarda, master of Western fiction.	我亲眼目睹了这个名字的作家哈格德却没意识到他就是伟大的哈格达西方小说大师
28	I've never seen a movie sheet based on a best-known fantasy, but I read one of his lesser works in Chinese.	我从未看过基于最知名幻想的电影单,但我读过他的中文小作品之一.
29	Under the title, A Chronicle of the Melancholy City of Hades and Waters,	《梅兰乔利城市纪事》
30	about three Englishmen and a Zuru warrior who went through the center of the earth.	大约三个英国人和一个祖鲁战士穿过地球的中心
31	You came out on the other side in a country rather like Mexico or Peru,	你来到了墨西哥或秘鲁的彼岸
32	ruled jointly by two beautiful young queens, sisters there.	由两个美丽的年轻皇后在那里的姐妹们共同统治
33	A good sister long, a bad sister black-haired.	好妹妹长,坏妹妹黑发.
34	They both fell in love with a fair-haired Jewry and fought a civil war away.	他们两人都爱上了一位美发的犹太教徒,并参加了一场内战.
35	The bad sister lost the war and committed suicide and killed Patrick.	坏妹妹战败,自杀身亡,杀死了帕特里克.
36	It was translated by Ling Shunt, a classical stylist who did not know English,	由不通晓英语的古典造型师Ling Shunt翻译,
37	and collaborated with Mr. Wei, who read it out for him in Chinese.	并勾结魏国公,魏国公为他用中文宣读.
38	They were a prolific team with lots of imitators.	他们是一个庞大的团队有很多模仿者。
39	Dickens, the Walder Scott, the Red Moon Knight, the Wicker Wakefield, Horton, Scarlet Letter,	狄更斯沃尔德·斯科特红月骑士威克·韦克菲尔德霍顿斯嘉丽信
40	and Sherlock Holt, far more so Holt, became a household word.	而夏洛克·霍特,更像是霍特,成为了家喻户晓的词.
41	All in classical Chinese, like a reflection in a brown mirror.	全部用古典汉语写成,如棕色镜子中的反射.
42	No less an authority than Arthur Waley praised Ling Shunt highly as a translator,	和亚瑟·瓦利一样是权威高度评价了林善特的翻译
43	especially Dickens in his notes on translation in The Atlantic Monthly, November 1958.	特别是狄更斯在1958年11月的"大西洋月刊"(The Atlantic Monthal, 1958)中关于翻译的注释中.
44	Dickens inevitably becomes a rather distant and to my mind a better writer.	狄更斯不可避免地会变得相当遥远在我看来会成为一个更好的作家
45	All the over-elaboration, the overstatement, and uncurbed gyrulity disappeared at Waley.	在Waley,所有的过度精心设计,多报, 和未断的阴茎消失了。
46	I've read the true David Copperfield.	我读过真正的大卫·科波菲尔德
47	Passed the best known of the late translated fiction, as they were called, regardless of the author.	通过了后来翻译的虚构作品中最有名的,无论作者是谁,都是被称作的.
48	The popularity seen against the traumatic national experience was a reaching out, as well as escape.	受人欢迎的创伤性国家经历是伸出援手和逃跑。
49	Submergently at least, this was the golden age of Chinese translation, although strictly speaking it's not translation.	这至少是中文翻译的黄金时代,虽然严格地说它不是翻译.
50	A critic quotes it from a detective story where the detective was angry.	一位评论家引用了一名侦探的故事,其中侦探很生气.
51	He flicked his sleeve and legged, a classical Chinese phrase referring to the white kimono sleeve worn in ancient China.	他闪闪发光的袖子和腿,一个古典中国语短语,指古代中国穿戴的白色和服袖.
52	It's a natural gesture of annoyance to give a jerk to the big sleeve as you walk away.	在你走开的时候给大袖子一个混蛋是一种很生气的自然姿态
53	The critic wanted to know if the detective was wearing the academic gown of the student that Arthur.	评论家想知道侦探是否穿着亚瑟那个学生的学术礼服.
54	The decade of the Linton's daily fiction overlapped the launching of the Venetian literature,	林顿的十大小说重复了威尼斯文学的推出,
55	dated by the leading magazine The New Youth, 1915 to 20.	由主要杂志"新青年"(The New Youth)1915年到20年出版.
56	After 1921, the magazine turned marked with a brimful of sorrow.	1921年后,该杂志转身,充满了浓郁的悲伤.
57	In the first five years, there was enormous public response.	在最初的五年里,公众作出了巨大的反应。
58	So ended the cumbersome practice of translating the foreign language into dead language, a sort of double translation.	于是结束了将外语翻译成死语的繁琐做法,一种双重翻译.
59	The movement for the national literature was later identified with the Patriotic May Fourth Movement of 1919.	民族文学运动后来被确定为1919年爱国五月五日运动.
60	After the fall of the dynasty, through the age of a warlord, China was in a chronic state of emergency.	the朝灭亡后,经过军阀时代,中国处于长期紧急状态.
61	A massive influx of the best of the West began.	西方最优秀的人开始大规模涌入.
62	保罗·索尔·马克思(Paul Saul Marx),维尔京·罗素(Virgin Russell)和约翰·杜威(John Dewey)在1915年起的"新青年"(The New Youth)中被翻译为,
63	with a special issue on Ibsen, because Dr. Fu Shi, the leading figure in the May Fourth,	因为五月四号的主角傅士博士
64	believed that a wholesome individualism would be a corrective for the excesses of the familial system	认为健康的个人主义会纠正家庭制度的过度
65	that, under neo-confucianism, took away many fundamental human rights.	在新教派统治下,剥夺了许多基本人权。
66	Understandably foremost in young people's minds was the right to marry for love,	在年轻人的脑海里,最可以理解的就是为爱结婚的权利,
67	and in cases where they had been forced into a blind marriage, they turned out badly to get the divorce.	在她们被迫盲目结婚的情况下,她们被迫离婚。
68	Culturally, individual responsibilities covered individual rights.	在文化方面,个人责任包括个人权利。
69	With a strengthened ego, a man would place his personal integrity above his duties to provide with many dependence	自我强化后,一个人会把自己的人格完整置于他的职责之上,以提供许多依赖性.
70	in the extended family, which is at the root of growth in China, as in the emerging nations today.	在大家庭中,这是中国增长的根源,正如在当今新兴国家一样。
71	The interest in Houdon was on nation-building.	胡敦的兴趣在于建国.
72	The first short stories translated into vernacular keep turning up in our school books.	最早的短篇小说被翻译成方言不断出现在我们的学校课本中
73	Everybody has studied them about five times.	每个人都研究过5次
74	The last lesson by Alphonse Dordet, and another one about Franco-Prussian War,	Alphonse Dordet的最后一课和关于法普战争的另一课
75	I think by Montpassant, about the old army captains so leaking out the window,	我想蒙帕桑特, 关于旧的陆军上尉如此渗出窗口,
76	only to find it was the enemy marching for Paris.	只为了找到是敌人向巴黎进军
77	The Franco-Prussian War loomed large in our childhood, a major war.	法国-普鲁士战争在我们童年时期是一场重大战争。
78	奔跑者(Runners-up)是汉斯·克里斯蒂安·安德森(英语:Hans Christian Andersen)和雀巢(英语:Montpassant the Necklace)的"小马舍德女孩".
79	Western literature was to help shape the immature new literature.	西方文学是为了帮助塑造不成熟的新文学.
80	Why is a country with a heritage it could be proud of to abandon it and start from scratch?	为什么一个拥有遗产的国家可以自豪地放弃遗产,从零开始?
81	Because things deteriorate, like a period of art, once it has passed its peak.	因为事情每况愈下,就像艺术时期一样,一旦过了高峰期.
82	China has several peaks, generated in different fields of art and letters.	中国有数座高峰,在不同艺术和书信领域产生.
83	By this century, Dao Ge Gu Shi said, all our current novels are about officials and profiteers.	到了这个世纪,道光庚子史说,我们目前所有的小说都是关于官员和牟利者的.
84	All non-officials who actually are officials and non-prostitutes who actually are prostitutes.	所有实际上为官员的非官员以及实际上为妓女的非妓女.
85	Novels about courtesans and their patrons were enrolled, and this was extended to the demimonde and the power behind the scenes.	有关礼仪的小说和他们的赞助人被录取,这被扩展到了demimonde和幕后力量.
86	We need the literature that's more relevant to our lives.	我们需要与我们的生活更相关的文献.
87	The old things are there as good as ever, but like old clothes no longer fit.	旧物虽有如是,但如旧衣已不适.
88	But why tear ourselves down, people keep saying?	但为什么人们总是说,我们自己要崩溃?
89	Why not just add it in Japan?	为什么不在日本加入?
90	In fact, I was the slogan at the beginning of China's westernization.	事实上,我是中国西化初期的口号.
91	Chinese studied in substance, Western studied as function.	中文学习实质,西方学习为功能.
92	That is, basically Chinese with Western technology.	也就是说,基本上中国人有西方技术。
93	It didn't work.	没有用
94	The tremendous inertia that comes with the weight of history and the size of the population	历史的份量和人口规模带来的巨大惰性
95	in a country that's almost a constant in itself.	在一个几乎是常数的国家里
96	The complacency and sense of superiority make it impossible to absorb anything but the most superficial.	沾沾自喜和优越感使得除了最肤浅的东西外,无法吸收任何东西。
97	Sun Tzu Mo went to China in 1993, published a book on the Chinese screen in 1992.	1993年孙子茂赴中国,1992年在中国银幕上发表著作.
98	Two of us sketched it in interviews with anonymous Chinese scholars.	我们两个人在对匿名中国学者的采访中描绘了它.
99	Seen in retrospect, do more than just show the tempo of the time.	回想起来,做更多的事情不只是显示时间的节奏。
100	The philosopher is known to be Dr. Gu Hongming, the only person white or Chinese,	哲学家是顾洪明博士只有白人或中国人
101	and impressed more favorably on his career.	他的事业更受欢迎
102	The student of the drama had now been identified as Professor Song Hengsheng in Beijing University,	剧中学生被确定为北京大学的宋恒生教授,
103	a linguist who studied in Geneva, Paris, Berlin, and Vienna,	在日内瓦、巴黎、柏林和维也纳学习的语言学家,
104	and had written a book in French about Chinese drama.	并且曾用法语写过一本关于中国戏剧的书.
105	His studies broadened and left him with a surprising enthusiasm on screen.	他的学习拓宽,让他在屏幕上留下了令人惊讶的热情.
106	This was the model he proposed for the regeneration of Chinese ground.	这就是他提出的中国大地再生模式.
107	Instead of the symbolic Chinese opera, Professor Song wanted the well-constructed play.	宋教授不是象征性的中国歌剧,而是想要精心构思的剧本.
108	The surprise occurred.	惊喜发生了
109	He further discussed it more by praising Breuil's play La Avarice.	他通过称赞布雷伊勒的戏剧"拉·阿瓦里塞"(La Avarise)来进一步讨论这个问题.
110	The English adaptation called Damaged Goods was a great success in Britain and America earlier this century,	英国改编的"受损货物"在本世纪早些时候在英国和美国取得了巨大成功,
111	and translated into Chinese under the title Shih Shih.	并翻译为中文,标题为"史记".
112	I think that it's the finest play that has been produced in Europe since Weeb.	我认为这是欧洲自威布以来最优秀的剧集.
113	You see, our students are greatly interested in sociological questions for more.	你看,我们的学生对社会学问题很感兴趣
114	Professor Song wrote in 1921, after seeing the problem plays of Ibsen and Bernard Shaw fail on the Chinese stage.	宋教授于1921年在看到易卜生和伯纳德·肖的问题剧"中国舞台上失败"后写道.
115	Of all the famous Weeb plays that read, there is in fact none as applicable to our compliment psychology as Weeb.	在读过的所有著名的韦布剧目中,事实上没有一部像韦布那样适用于我们的恭维心理学.
116	It's just to reach the Chinese audience, but get the compliment movie.	只是为了深入中国观众,但获得赞美电影.
117	But it seems to me it's not necessarily bad taste to admire the surprise and the electrifying curse, even its dating.	但在我看来,佩服惊喜和电击诅咒,甚至是约会,并不一定是坏味道.
118	The curse in its theatrical prop was unknown in China, its dramatic possibilities unexplored.	其戏剧道具中的诅咒在中国是未知的,其戏剧性的可能性没有被探索.
119	Chinese opera is a composite art, drama, music, dancing, and acrobatics combined.	中国歌剧是一部综合艺术,戏剧,音乐,舞蹈,杂技综合体.
120	There's no stark, focused, dramatic climax.	没有尖锐,专注,戏剧性的高潮.
121	You have to have a think before you can go beyond it.	要先有思想,才能超越它.
122	It's generally acknowledged that our playwright Cao Yu, who wrote in the late 30s, was influenced by Eugene O'Neill.	一般承认,我们剧作家曹玉在30年代末写作时受到尤金·奥尼尔的影响.
123	American studying Chinese drama discovered recently that he was influenced by the Scribbian School.	研究中国戏剧的美国人最近发现,他受到了斯克里比亚学校的影响.
124	So it seems to be an inevitable development.	因此,这似乎是不可避免的发展。
125	Only Professor Song was nearly 20 years ahead of his time.	只有宋教授比他早了近20年
126	In 1920, the Legitimate Theatre, newly introduced from Japan, was given to ad libs long political speeches on current events.	1920年,刚从日本引进的"合法剧场",被授予对时事进行长篇政治演讲的自由派.
127	The thunderous applause that stopped the show.	震撼的掌声阻止了演出.
128	A sign of the time.	示现时.
129	Well, if they prefer their message this way, you might say.	好吧,如果他们喜欢他们的信息这样,你可能会说。
130	Born specially under Chen Zhu in the Southwest, you'll see Dr. Hu Hongming, who studied English and German literature and philosophy at Berlin and Oxford,	特生于西南的陈 Zhu之下,见胡弘明博士,曾在柏林和牛津学习英语和德国文学和哲学,
131	and rose in English in the style of Carlisle and Matthew Arnold.	并以卡莱尔和马修·阿诺德的风格在英语中崛起.
132	Ding Tang thought very highly of the translation of the Confucian classic,	丁唐对"儒家经典"的译本非常深思熟虑,
133	but he was mostly known as a colorful personality that figured in many anecdotes.	但他大多被称为一个色彩浓郁的个性在许多传闻中都有所体现
134	An open-smoker, he wore a pigtail when it was already a curiosity to show his devotion to the fallen dynasty.	一个开放的吸烟者,他穿着一条猪尾辫,当时已经是一个好奇心,表现出他对衰落的王朝的奉献.
135	Once two foreigners sitting near him at the movies looked amused, obviously talking about him.	有一次坐在他旁边看电影的两名外国人看起来很开心,显然谈论他。
136	So he purposely scratched himself back on the floor and picked his nose,	所以他故意在地板上抓回了自己的鼻子
137	then talked to his companion in his Oxford English on some learning subject.	然后用牛津英语和同伴谈了一些学习课题。
138	Another time, he defended polygamy to foreigners by pointing to the tea set on the table.	又一次,他向外国人辩护一夫多妻,指着桌上的茶具.
139	You have one teapot and many cups.	你有一个茶壶和许多杯子。
140	Not one cup and many teapots.	一杯也不喝很多茶壶
141	The story has also been attributed to the diplomat Wellington Cooke.	故事也归于外交家惠灵顿·库克.
142	He talked more knowledgeably about the English philosophers human Berkeley, their concessions to theology.	他更了解英国哲学家人类伯克利,他们对神学的让步.
143	Everything goes to prove the superiority of Confucianism.	一切如来证诸儒学之优越.
144	It grew bitter, the stigma of the students fresh from a fallen university tore down the oldest civilization in the world.	它越来越痛苦, 被一个堕落的大学新生撕裂了世界上最古老的文明。
145	You have thrust your hideous inventions upon us.	你把你的可怕的发明推向我们
146	What would become of your superiority if a yellow man could make as good guns as a white and fire them as straight?	如果一个黄种人能制造出像白种人一样优秀的枪,并像直射一样射击,那么你的优越性会变成什么?
147	It was the gut's reaction, not the philosopher's speech.	这是直觉的反应,而不是哲学家的演讲.
148	The words have a contemporary ring.	语有当代戒.
149	Morham's attitude is also typical of the Western intellectual even today.	莫勒姆的态度也是西方知识分子的典型,即使是今天.
150	His respect for national pride and the red fruits will want nothing of the West with all its wealth and power.	他对民族自豪和红果实的尊重将不想要西方拥有一切财富和力量。
151	He does not want China to change.	他不希望中国改变。
152	It's mysterious and lovely and good the way the Jesuits found it in the 18th century.	18世纪耶稣会发现它的方式是神秘而可爱的和良好的.
153	That was the impact of the first encounter.	这是第一次相遇的影响。
154	Peking being a forbidden city once again makes it still easier to see that way.	北京再次成为禁区,使得人们更容易看到这一点。
155	The next phase of Westernization, the fruition of May 4, could be dated by the leading magazine Christian Monthly, 1921-32.	接下来的西化阶段,即5月4日的成果,可以被主要杂志"克里斯蒂安月刊"(Christian Month,1921-32)日期.
156	In 1932, it was still flourishing when publishing the commercial press was hit by a Japanese bomb during the fighting in Shanghai, the fitting end of the period.	1932年,在上海抗战中被日军炸弹击中时,出版商报时仍然蓬勃发展,是这一时期的恰当结束.
157	It was an era of tremendous freshening as though the West was newly discovered and a childlike exuberance, full of references to Shelley the Golden-haired Poet,	这是一个非常新鲜的时代就像西方被新发现和童年般的兴旺充满了对金发诗人雪莱的提及
158	would die so young, drowned in the sea he loved, the nightingale, the skylock, birds that China doesn't have.	沉溺于他所爱的海中夜莺、天锁、中国没有的鸟类
159	There were certainly strong feelings against the West where it impinged on the Orient or Africa.	对西方当然有强烈的反感,它冲击了东方或非洲。
160	But there was a general assumption that the West is good at home, fair and decent, progressive.	但有一般的假设,认为西方在家中是好的,是公平的和体面的,进步的.
161	Drawing attention to the ills of Western society was an attitude described as,	提醒人们注意西方社会的弊端是一种被描述为,
162	foreign countries have bedbugs too, an excuse for our own sloth and evil.	外国也有臭虫是我们自己懒惰和邪恶的借口
163	Most of our best-known writers had their first stories published in fiction monthly,	我们大多数最知名的作家都有他们的第一个故事以虚构的月刊出版,
164	but they devoted a lot of space to the translation of 19th and 20th century Western writers, especially the Russian and East European,	但他们为翻译19世纪和20世纪的西方作家特别是俄罗斯和东欧作家投入了大量空间
165	because the editors believed that China belonged with these oppressed countries and could learn from their exceeding.	因为编辑们相信中国属于这些被压迫国家,并且可以从它们的超越中吸取教训.
166	It's a catch-all, not just fiction.	这是一个包罗万象, 不只是虚构。
167	Greek myth, Bernard Shaw's Aunt and the Man, Oscar Wilde's Salome,	希腊神话伯纳德·肖的姨妈和男人奥斯卡·怀尔德的莎乐美
168	日本作家Kikuchi Kan和Akutagawa Ryunosuke都是有相当影响力的知名作家,
169	especially the lack of a world story on which to film Rashomon would be.	特别是缺乏一个世界故事可以拍摄拉绍蒙。
170	There was a change in the air with stepped-up Japanese aggression,	随着日本侵略的加剧空气发生了变化
171	frustration with the government's refusal to take the stand bitterness for the West and the League of Nations.	对政府拒绝为西方和国联采取立场感到沮丧.
172	What helped their world came from Soviet Russia through the early years of the war with Japan when it finally broke out.	帮助他们世界的,是苏维埃俄国在与日本的战争初期,最终爆发的.
173	These plus the depression and intellectuals growing less all over the world.	这些加上压抑和知识分子在世界各地的成长较少.
174	These were the external factors leading to the political disaster literature after 1932.	这些是1932年后导致政治灾难文献的外部因素.
175	Of the Western writers introduced, only the Russians survived.	在介绍的西方作家中,只有俄国人幸存下来.
176	Dandard's Red and Black was translated without making a ripple.	丹达德的"红色和黑色"在翻译时没有做波纹.
177	So was Homer, the Greek dramatist, Dante, Shakespeare, Milton, Baudelaire and Bernard Shaw.	霍默,希腊戏剧家但丁,莎士比亚,米尔顿,博德莱尔和伯纳德·肖也一样.
178	Hanson's Hunger and Sinclair-Louis's Main Street, but that was dull.	汉森的饥饿和辛克莱 -路易的主街, 但这是无聊的。
179	There was no attempt that reproduced the style.	并没有试图复制这种风格。
180	Imagine Sinclair-Louis in basic English.	想象一下,辛克莱 -路易的英语基础。
181	Hardy, Dreiser, Steinbeck and O'Neill did somewhat better.	哈代,德赖瑟,施泰因贝克和奥尼尔都表现得有些好.
182	The feel was limited to begin with.	感觉是有限的首先。
183	The new literature being part of a reform movement and the reformers being charged with immorality,	新文学是改革运动的一部分改革者被指控不道德
184	they had to be especially careful about what to translate.	他们必须特别小心翻译什么
185	Marx was all right, but not Floyd.	马克思没事,但不是弗洛伊德
186	Positive values, not ambiguity or cynicism.	正面的价值观,而不是含糊不清或愤世嫉俗.
187	Guala and negativeness savored all foreign countries at bed bugs too.	瓜拉和负面也让所有外国的虫虫子都厌倦了
188	That ruled out a great deal of modern Western literature and left mainly the great Russians.	这排除了大量的现代西方文学,主要留下了伟大的俄国人.
189	Only 19th century writers with thatchers had grown with anything in our time.	只有19世纪的作家和撒切尔人有了我们这个时代的一切
190	Of Ibsen, only the dollhouse remained, standard graduation play of every girls' school in the country.	在易卜生,只剩下娃娃屋了,全国每个女子学校的标准毕业剧.
191	Oscar Wilde's Lady Windermere's Fan was the only alternative, considered a bit too daring.	奥斯卡·怀尔德的"温德米尔夫人"(Lady Windermere)的"粉丝"是唯一的选择,被认为有点过于大胆.
192	It's interesting to note that both these plays were done in modern Western thread.	值得注意的是,这两部剧都是在现代西方线条中完成的.
193	So is the Lady of the Chameleon.	变色龙女也是
194	I remember seeing her in the Battle of Yimingang.	我记得在义明江战役中见过她
195	Western period costumes are hard to get, but the fact is that in China the situations in the dollhouse,	西方时期的服装很难买到但事实是在中国娃娃屋的情况
196	Lady Windermere's Fan and the Lady of the Chameleon were contemporary.	温德米尔夫人的粉丝和变色龙女神是当代人.
197	There was a time like that.	曾经有过这样的情况。
198	Reactions to Japanese aggression are shown in a booming, legitimate stage with a rash of patriotic plays.	对日本侵略的反应表现在一个兴旺,正当的舞台上,充满了爱国主义的戏剧。
199	Historical romances allowed resistance to foreign aggression.	历史上的浪漫主义允许抵抗外国侵略.
200	After the public got tired of the historical plays, the limited repertoire of the post-war theater	在公众厌倦历史剧后战后剧院的有限剧集
201	included four foreign adaptations out of a total of only eight or nine.	在总共只有8或9项修改中包括4项外国修改。
202	Waddling Heights, Gogo's The Inspector, Goffy's The Lower Death, Andre's He Who Got Slapped,	横越高地,戈戈的探长,戈飞的下死亡,安德烈的谁得到滑倒,
203	three adaptations from the Russian.	三次改编自俄国人.
204	Russian popularity has been ascribed to similarities in social structure, the bureaucracy,	俄罗斯的受欢迎之处在于社会结构的相似性官僚主义
205	that's why The Inspector goes down so well.	所以探长才下得这么好
206	But the interest in terrorist Russia goes deeper than that.	但是,对俄罗斯恐怖分子的兴趣更深。
207	Let Parson Gong as dead as old China and met with a more violent end.	让帕森贡像老中国一样死去,遇到更暴力的结局.
208	It's elegant, it's nostalgic, it's uncomfortable.	文雅,怀旧,不适.
209	It could be safely enjoyed by even the radical left.	即使是激进左翼也能安全享受
210	Just as Christmas is called in foreign winter solstice,	就像圣诞节在外国冬天被唤醒一样
211	War and Peace was called a foreign dream in a red chamber after the Chinese novel.	"战争与和平"在中国小说之后的红厅中被称为外国梦.
212	For its size and scope and the number and variety of attractive female characters.	因为它的大小和范围以及吸引人的女性角色的数量和种类。
213	But again it was a great space.	但是,它再次是一个伟大的空间。
214	Even Dostoyevsky was not too heavy for the popular taste.	即使是陀思妥耶夫斯基也不至于太重于流行的口味.
215	Gogo did not quite get the past except for this dress.	Gogo除了这身衣服并没有完全恢复过去
216	Stalin's Innocence of Strongness in the Boat.	斯大林在"船中坚固的无知".
217	Some Soviet short stories to translate mostly stand out.	一些苏联的短篇故事要翻译,大多是突出的.
218	The poet Yersinid took the place of Schelling.	诗人叶尔希尼德取代了舍林.
219	A suicide at an early age, also golden hair like Schelling.	早年自杀,同样像舍林那样的金色头发.
220	And I wonder if it had anything to do with the poet in the surging,	我想知道这是否与诗人在暴涨,
221	writing under the name Li Ji Fa, gold hair Li.	写名李继法,金发李.
222	A translation from the West withered away.	译自西方枯萎.
223	Only the hack made of good business of school books,	只有学校书本业的黑客
224	with the English and Chinese patch on facing pages,	有英文和中文的补丁在面页,
225	often forbidden in school because they were full of mistakes.	在学校经常被禁,因为他们充满错误。
226	Treasure Island, the Silas Narner.	宝岛,赛拉斯纳纳
227	The prolific translator Fu Zonghua,	文艺翻译家傅宗华,
228	The Gone with the Wind,	随风而逝
229	the first American book that really left an imprint.	这是第一本真的留下印记的美国书
230	In 1942 it was adapted into a play set in China during the civil wars between the warlords.	1942年改编为中国内战时期的剧集.
231	The play also had a long run.	该剧也经历了很长一段时间.
232	Only a couple of years ago I read in a Taiwan publication,	几年前我在台湾的刊物上看到
233	a scholar of horror said,	一位恐怖学者说:
234	I won't think of it today, I'll think of it tomorrow.	我今不思议,明日不思议.
235	Another time a less famous quote from the nine and a half, a woman.	又一次,一个不太出名的引用从九点半,一个女人。
236	The same translator also did forever and not such a success.	同一名翻译也永远没有取得这样的成功。
237	It was known for a famous line in Rip Van Winkle,	它以里普·范·温克勒的著名台词而闻名于世,
238	where he translated the heroes of the 76th into the 76th martyr.	在那里,他将76号的英雄们翻译为76号烈士.
239	Rip Van Winkle has just been re-translated as Uncle Li's big dream.	Rip Van Winkle刚刚被重新翻译为李叔叔的大梦.
240	I'm not sure who is responsible for this famous line.	我不确定这句名线是谁干的
241	At the banquet somebody raised the piece of cloth.	在宴会上有人举起一块布
242	On the main line since 1949, writers read under ideological requirements,	1949年起主线上,作家按照思想要求阅读,
243	each stricter than in Stalinist Russia.	都比斯大林主义俄国更严格
244	But as in Russia there was this double standard for the literature of the past.	但和俄罗斯一样,对过去的文学也有这种双重标准.
245	In the early 50s there was talk of setting a fine translator to work on the complete Garzakh.	50年代初,有人说要设置一个精细的翻译,为完整的加尔扎克工作.
246	It looked as if China was going to be a haven for Western classes like the Soviet Union,	似乎中国会成为苏联等西方阶级的避难所
247	but from sheer shortage of interest in reading that,	却因为对读这本书的兴趣不足,
248	these books are still being read and enjoyed and really lived.	这些书仍然被人们阅读、欣赏和真正生活。
249	Instead of the dubious immortality they have in the outside world,	而不是他们在外界的不朽
250	we generally wait for the move.	我们一般都在等待行动
251	Of course, since the Cultural Revolution,	当然,自文化大革命以来
252	all Western and Russian literature is suppressed.	所有西方和俄罗斯的文学都被压制.
253	Eventually, even if Mao Zedong's successors reverse his policy,	最终,即使毛泽东的继任者推翻了他的政策,
254	Garzakh is bound to be very low on the priority list.	Garzakh在优先排行榜上肯定会非常低.
255	Mao's xenophobia has been attributed to provincial education.	毛泽东的仇外情绪被归咎于省教育.
256	It's the reaction against the discrimination that came with the pressure of Westernization.	这是随着西方化的压力而带来的反对歧视的反应.
257	Only with him the resentment is extended to the Russians,	只有和他在一起怨恨被波及到俄国人
258	probably due to the discrimination he met with even in the party in the 20s and early 30s.	可能是因为他在20年代和30年代初在党内遇到的歧视。
259	While this is an unfortunate aspect of modernization in any emerging nation,	虽然这是任何新兴国家现代化的一个不幸方面,
260	in China feeling one's special deep and bitter,	在中国感觉自己很深很苦
261	because education costs very little under the old system of civil examination,	因为教育费用在旧的民事考试制度下很少,
262	the basis for a mobile society.	移动社会的基础。
263	Many boys got free education in the clan's room,	许多男孩在部落的房间接受免费教育,
264	financed by the successful members of the clan.	由部族成功成员资助。
265	Country teachers were often paid in kind,	国家教师往往得到实物报酬,
266	the chickens and vegetables three times a year.	鸡和蔬菜一年三次。
267	Theoretically, any peasant boy could rise to be premier.	从理论上讲,任何农民男孩都可以登基为首.
268	In all four examinations, from the primary held in the county seat	在所有四个考试中,从小学开始,在县政府所在地举行
269	to the highest held in the capital,	至尊者,
270	the examinees did stilted poetry	考生们的诗歌很沉闷
271	and an artificial form of essay with quotes from the class,	以及一种人工的散文,其中有从班上降示的经典,
272	an intellectual exercise that had harbored the Chinese mind for centuries.	数个世纪以来,中国思想深藏在思想中
273	It's an arbitrary, intelligent test, but fair enough,	这是一个任意的,明智的测试, 但公平,
274	with an elaborate system of safeguard against wire pulling and brawl.	具有一个严密的防止拉线和争吵的制度。
275	For instance, the examinee's name, Xiu, not known to the board of examiners.	例如,考生的姓萧,不为考生委员会所知.
276	It was suspended earlier since as part of the much needed reform.	由于是急需的改革的一部分,它于早些时候暂停。
277	But modern schools and colleges and foreign universities are so expensive,	但现代的学校和学院以及外国大学都非常昂贵,
278	the class perpetuates themselves.	班级会自生自灭
279	Mouser's sisterly against Western influence in literature and foreign national form.	老鼠的妹妹反对西方在文学和外国民族形式上的影响.
280	It rose in 1938.	1938年兴起.
281	Foreign slander penetrated and odds to rankism must be abolished,	外国诽谤被渗透,等级主义的可能性必须废除,
282	so that the fresh and vivid Chinese style and manner	这样,新的和生动的中国风格和方式
283	of which the Chinese Nazis are found of Arthorn may take their place.	其中发现的中国纳粹"亚特霍恩"可能取而代之.
284	The Western-oriented leftist literature done a good job in winning students	以西方为导向的左派文学在赢学生方面成绩斐然
285	and intellectuals over to Yan'an's side,	知识分子来到延安那边
286	and with that emphasis has shifted to the peasant masses in their taste and mal-owned.	并以此为重点,向农民群众转移了他们的口味和恶意。
287	To this day, the communist press politicized the foreign slander,	直到今天,共产主义新闻将外国诽谤政治化,
288	peasantry and odds to rank.	农民和排名的概率。
289	Turgic prose modeled on the literal translation	在字面翻译上模拟了突厥语
290	favored by the leftists of the 30s.	得到三十年代左派人士的青睐.
291	Any tongue who serves free translation	免费翻译的任何语言
292	is defined as mangled in West Wing and the present leaders digest in Chinese.	被定义为西翼的混凝土和现在的领导人文摘中文。
293	That has negated modern Chinese literature,	这否定了中国现代文学
294	ushered wishes and derivatives.	带来了愿望和衍生物
295	The rest of the world is so badly linked as social documentaries,	世界其他地方都与社会纪录片联系如此密切
296	the best works are distinguished by anger and self-disgust,	最好的作品是愤怒和自我厌恶
297	which again does not appear to the West,	这在西方是不会发现的,
298	since the West doesn't see anything wrong with China as is or as it was.	因为西方人并不认为中国有什么问题
299	That's one reason why there's very little cross though.	这就是十字架很少的原因之一
300	As for all Chinese literature,	至于所有的中国文学
301	Deng Yitang has done a lot with a casual essay,	邓一唐在散文上做了很多事
302	but is strongest in poetry and the novel.	在诗歌和小说中最强壮
303	The poetry has not been as well translated as Japanese high.	诗歌翻译不如日语高.
304	Some claim it has never really been translated.	有些人声称它从未真正被翻译过.
305	The novel has developed along different lines from Western fiction.	小说的发展路线与西方小说不同.
306	Lines would have seemed too externalized to the Western eye and spread too thin.	线条会看起来太外化到西方的眼睛,而且会太薄。
307	And it happened that at the culmination of the Chinese novel,	恰好在中国小说高潮时
308	when the author of A Dream in a Red Chamber spent a lifetime rewriting it,	当《红房梦》的作者一生重写
309	slowly evolving the startlingly modern and complex novel	慢慢地发展出惊人的现代和复杂的小说
310	when Richardson's Pamela was just published in England.	当理查森的帕梅拉刚在英国出版时.
311	It died before 50 before it finished,	它在50岁前就死了
312	so it's cheapened by a last dirt pat onto it.	所以用最后的泥土拍下来就便宜了
313	That has nothing to do with it.	这跟这事无关
314	It was so much ahead of its time it was not properly understood,	远在时代的前面,它没有得到正确的理解,
315	and the classical Chinese novel never quite recovers from setback.	而古典中国小说也从未从挫折中完全恢复过来.
316	Both Chinese played down the main fourth move	两个中国人都打倒了第四大动作
317	and suppressed its literature for being too liberal.	并压制它的文学过于自由。
318	In Taiwan, also because the liberalism eventually led to a con move,	在台湾,同样由于自由主义最终导致了一场阴谋,
319	all the writers stayed in the mainland.	所有作家都留在大陆
320	Students only studied classical Chinese and the West.	学生只学习古典中国和西方.
321	But without modern Chinese literature and the link,	但是没有现代中国文学和联系
322	somehow nothing seems to have anything to do with anything else anymore.	不知怎的似乎与其它事情无关了
323	This is the whole life.	这是整个生活。
324	The current escapist literature vacuums in the 90s,	目前90年代的埃斯卡普主义文学真空,
325	without old Chinese artistry,	没有中国的老艺术家
326	while the Western influences separated like oil and water,	西方人像石油和水一样互相影响
327	although some native Formosan writers do show Japanese influence.	虽然一些本地的福摩山作家确实表现出日本的影响.
328	Translations lead to the prestigious,	翻译导致著名的,
329	the philosopher John Dewey doing oracle in Taiwan,	哲学家约翰·杜威在台湾做神谕
330	Bertrand Russell,	伯特兰·罗素,
331	and the anthology of American poetry,	以及美国诗歌的考古学,
332	of American literature,	美国文学家,
333	do it so well so that the anthology of American poetry	做得很好,这样美国诗歌的解说
334	is even a pirated edition.	甚至是一个盗版。
335	Two novellas of Henry James have been translated in Hong Kong,	亨利·詹姆斯的两部小说在香港被翻译过
336	Daisy Miller and the Turn of the Swoog.	黛西·米勒和斯沃格的转折
337	The preface points out that Daisy Miller is a prototype of Daisy	序言指出黛西·米勒是黛西的原型
338	in The Great Gatsby,	在伟大的盖茨比,
339	and The Heroin of the Moon is Blue,	月亮上的海洛因是蓝色的,
340	and The Seven-Year Itch.	与七岁痒.
341	All three were known by the film.	三人皆为影片所知.
342	Very cleverly establishing points of reference.	非常巧妙地建立了参照点。
343	The Turn of the Swoog needs no introduction.	Swoog的转弯不需要介绍.
344	It's an Ingrid Bergman film.	这是一部英格丽德·伯格曼电影.
345	Similarly, Hemingway was completely identified with film adaptation.	同样,海明威被完全认同为电影改编.
346	A recent publisher's list in Taiwan includes	最近台湾的出版商名单包括:
347	Pearl Bug's Letters from Peking,	珍珠虫从北京的信,
348	John Hersey的单人玩偶,
349	Jane Mitchell's Hawaii,	简米切尔的夏威夷,
350	and one by Daphne du Maurier,	和达弗内·杜莫里耶的同名
351	三个由Victoria Ho,
352	costing novels like Gone with the Wind.	像《与风同去》这样的小说
353	On the other hand, a writer in Hong Kong has translated a sample chapter	另一方面,香港的一位作家翻译了一个样本章节
354	of Eden Ward's Brides Heard Revisited	伊顿·沃德的新娘听到重审
355	as a labor of love because no publisher is interested.	因为没有出版商感兴趣
356	They certainly justify the worry about receptivity,	他们肯定有理由担心接受性,
357	but there's large areas untouched, unengaged.	但有大片区域没有被破坏,没有被接触。
358	The result falls far short of the auspicious beginning 70 years ago,	结果远未达到70年前的吉祥开端,
359	after two separate stars on different angles.	在两个不同角度的恒星之后
360	Is this as far as this can go?	仅此而已吗?
361	Can East meet West after all?	东方能与西方相会么.
362	Even without a political situation,	即使没有政治局势,
363	the West is in a better position to break that impasse.	西方更有能力打破僵局。
364	I can't China when China was self-confident enough	我无法相信中国的自信
365	to take a lot from India and Central Asia	从印度和中亚夺走很多
366	without any fear of losing its identity.	不用担心失去身份
367	So far, the Western view of China is set and restricted	目前为止,中国的西观被设定和限制
368	as the Chinese conception of the West.	作为西方的中国概念.
369	And in the end, the limited view makes for a limited influence.	而最终,有限的观点使得影响有限.
370	That's a good thing.	这是好事。
371	It's a good thing.	善哉众生.
372	It's a good thing when we're talking about the book.	说此经时善哉.
373	It is here in the magazine.	在杂志上
374	It's a good thing.	善哉众生.
375	Oh, it's both the magazine and the book.	哦,这是杂志和书。
376	The magazine and the book?	杂志和书?
377	Yes.	对
378	There is tremendous influence	影响很大
379	of the magazine and the book on imperialism.	杂志和关于帝国主义的书
380	Well, not so much now.	好了,现在不是这么多。
381	There's a very popular religious digest sometimes,	宗教摘要有时很受欢迎
382	actually a digest of the digest.	其实是摘要
383	Because they choose freely from the back numbers	因为他们从后面的号码中自由选择
384	of the religious digest.	宗教摘要。
385	So they have a goal-mind there.	因此,他们有一个进球的心。
386	I think there's one name missing	我觉得少了一个名字
387	that Americans are always surprised to find in their translations,	美国人总是惊讶地发现在他们的翻译,
388	and that's Jack London.	这是杰克伦敦。
389	I think we're always surprised to find out	我觉得我们总是惊讶地发现
390	how popular his translations are.	他的翻译有多受欢迎
391	Was Jack London his story that day?	那天杰克伦敦是他的故事吗?
392	Well, I think he's most popular in the comics.	我觉得他在漫画中最受欢迎
393	Well, that means that they are in a shorter description.	意思是说它们描述得更短
394	I don't know about comics.	我不懂漫画
395	China, because he's been an American.	中国因为他是美国人
396	I think any American will rest in peace,	我想任何美国人都会安息
397	except maybe in Great Wall Island.	除了在长城岛
398	I think the world's American rights	我认为世界的美国权利
399	are extremely dangerous now.	现在非常危险
400	That's not so well-known here.	这不怎么广为人知
401	Not of St. Fay Island,	不是圣费伊岛
402	but he had several books.	但他有几本书
403	Well, not that he's not well-known here,	不是说他在这里不为人所知
404	but since the Cultural Revolution,	但自文化大革命以来
405	there were also French songs,	还有法国歌曲
406	Shakespeare, and everybody else.	莎士比亚还有其他人
407	People don't know it, but not very much.	人不识之,但不甚多.
408	No, not anymore.	不,现在不是了。
409	I remember when I left China in 1952,	我记得我1952年离开中国时
410	there was this municipalite that I often went to.	我经常去的市政部门
411	I heard of that.	我听说了
412	And the clothes there were so miserable,	那儿的衣服太惨了
413	that's what I hate.	这就是我讨厌的。
414	And he whispered to me the last time I went there,	上次我去那里的时候他悄悄地对我说
415	I have a lot of books there that you might need.	我有很多书在那里你可能需要。
416	They sent me the patents for 10 Chinese dollars.	他们给我10元的专利
417	And I said, no, thank you.	我说,不,谢谢你。
418	And I went there again after,	我后来又去了那里
419	and he ducked under the counter	他躲在柜台下边
420	every time he saw books here that I would expose	每次他在这里看到书我会揭露
421	for making money out of the books.	为了从书里赚钱
422	And since he talked to me,	既然他跟我说话
423	all the books in English,	所有英语书籍,
424	some of them were sealed in the bookcase.	有些被封在书架里
425	Not allowed to be taken out anymore.	不准再被带出去
426	And they would send me a little bill,	他们会给我寄一份小账单
427	and put away more or less.	多少收起来
428	And I think I know what they did	我想我知道他们做了什么
429	because it was in the 50s.	因为它是在50年代。
430	It was a country revolution,	那是一场国家革命,
431	so they destroyed a lot of Chinese books.	所以他们销毁了许多中国书籍。
432	Oh, ten years later,	哦,十年后,我们...
433	I would stand for Brian's love.	我会支持布莱恩的爱
434	Yeah, nanny.	对保姆
435	No, that's it.	不,就是这样。
436	I must have done a lot about the English.	我肯定对英国人做了很多
437	I think it's on its way out.	我想它正在离开。
438	All the kids.	所有的孩子们
439	Yeah, yeah.	对对
440	See, very little has been done	你看,没有做什么
441	along these lines for a con.	沿着这条线,为骗局。
442	They did have a tremendous lot of fetishes.	他们的确有很多恋物癖
443	In the 30s, and I think the early 40s,	30年代,我想40年代早期,
444	there was this little teachers' move.	有一个小老师的举动。
445	They mobilized.	他们动员起来。
446	There was one man named Tao.	有个叫陶的人
447	They mobilized all the school boys,	他们动员所有学校的男生,
448	school girls, to teach English.	女学生,教英语。
449	And that's tremendously effective	这非常有效
450	in the countryside where they don't have school.	在农村,他们没有学校。
451	But then because he left,	但后来因为他离开了,
452	and because the nation is sustained	并且因为国家是持久的
453	by the whole country,	由全国,
454	people were suppressed	人们被镇压
455	on the sharpening of them.	他们的磨刀。
456	Well, no, because for one thing,	嗯,不,因为一件事,
457	it's not a question of being allowed.	这不是一个允许的问题。
458	They're difficult for people who are not specially taught.	对没有专门教书的人来说,这很困难.
459	So since they were not taught,	既然他们不曾受教,
460	I don't think you really said all the things.	我不认为你真的说了所有的事情。
461	Some of the things, please.	一些东西,请。
462	Yeah, I meant.	是的,我是说。
463	In fact, much more so.	事实上,更是这样。
464	It's much more archaic than talking.	比说话更古老
465	More archaic than talking.	比说话更古老
466	Well, there's several translations,	嗯,有几种翻译,
467	but they scarcely mention the fact	但他们很少提到这个事实,
468	that the last third doesn't belong.	最后三分之一不属于。
469	In fact, the last third,	事实上,最后三分之一
470	it now turns out it's probably done	现在发现,它可能已经完成了
471	by more than one person	一个人以上
472	and not collaborating each other.	而不是互相勾结
473	It's really shocking	真让人吃惊
474	because since the end of one chapter,	因为自从一章结束以来
475	it doesn't match the next chapter.	与下一章不符.
476	And the strange thing is nobody noticed it.	奇怪的是没人注意到
477	All Chinese who read it never noticed all the discrepancies	所有读过这本书的中国人从来没有注意到过所有的差异
478	because the reading is still more shocking	因为读数更令人震惊
479	because it's so dull and so boring	因为它是如此的无聊和无聊
480	that nobody can follow the story.	没人能听懂这个故事
481	So they don't notice the things.	那样他们就不会注意到了
482	For instance, I just noticed one thing	比如说,我注意到一件事
483	that nobody pointed out.	没有人指出。
484	There was a theft case	有个盗窃案
485	after the death of the dowager lady	女主人去世后,我们...
486	of the family.	家庭事务。
487	And her favorite states of community suicide	她最喜欢的自杀状态
488	followed her.	跟着她
489	Followed her to the underworld.	跟着她来到冥界
490	And she was the only one who knows	她是唯一一个知道
491	what jewelry and valuables the old lady had.	老太太的珠宝和贵重物品
492	So she came taking advantage of the confusion	所以她趁着混乱而来
493	and nobody knew what was stolen	没有人知道什么被偷了
494	because the slave girl had a hand or so.	因为奴隶女孩有一只手左右。
495	So some of the lesser slave girls,	所以有些小奴隶女孩
496	the others who didn't know anything,	其他人谁不知道什么,
497	just had to make out a list through imagination	只能通过想象来做一个清单
498	and gave it to the police.	并把它给警察。
499	And then in the later chapters,	然后在后面的章节中,
500	all the things were recovered,	所有的东西都被收回了
501	the things that were made out and imagined,	那些被创造和想象的东西,
502	and the thieves were caught.	和盗贼被抓获。
503	That's what I said.	我已如是说.
504	True external life is ready to sit.	真正的外部生活已经准备好了
505	There's so much scope and so many characters	有这么多的视野和这么多的角色
506	and names are not memorable in English	名称不能用英语记住
507	because all Chinese names sound rather like	因为所有中国名字听起来都很像
508	to form.	组成。
509	In fact, I myself have difficulty reading,	事实上,我自己读起来很困难
510	for instance, a book on Chinese literature	例如,一本关于中国文学的书
511	or Chinese painting	或中国画
512	because I want to track the names.	因为我想追踪他们的名字
513	The rogue knight names.	那个流氓骑士的名字
514	I have been looking at the back	我一直看着后面
515	where they have put notes	他们放的笔记
516	and they put Chinese characters, Chinese names.	他们把中国的字,中国的字。
517	It's all very confusing.	皆大惑难.
518	I remember reading a review of Chinese history	我记得读过中国历史的回顾
519	when the review came from beginning to end	当审查从头到尾
520	that he couldn't keep track of names,	他无法追踪姓名,
521	especially in the warlord era	特别是在军阀时代
522	where there were so many personalities.	有这么多个性。
523	In the end, I very reluctantly rendered the names	最终,我非常不情愿地把名字
524	in the English,	用英语
525	like a gold flower or a gold phoenix,	如金花或金凤凰,
526	and left a surname in Chinese,	并留下了中文姓氏,
527	I mean in Roman days.	我是说在罗马的日子里
528	The name Hong Shanqi,	洪山魁这个名字
529	one of the leading characters.	一个主角。
530	The Western leader, the band singer,	西方领袖,乐队歌手,
531	his surname is Xing, the Hong Canqi.	他的姓是兴,洪康齐人.
532	In dialogue, he was referred to Mr. Hong.	在对话中,他被推荐给洪先生。
533	So you bound the symbol.	所以,你绑住了符号。
534	But who is Mr. Hong?	洪先生是谁?
535	He's Mr. Xing.	师曰兴师.
536	And with so many people around	和这么多人身边
537	and other people named, for instance,	以及其他人,例如,
538	Xiao Chenqi.	萧仲琪.
539	You bound this thing, Mr. Hong, maybe.	你绑着它,洪先生,也许吧
540	The other person is Xing.	彼人即是兴.
541	It's all very confusing.	皆大惑难.
542	I don't quite like the gold flower,	我不太喜欢金花
543	but it couldn't be helped.	却无济于事
544	So it's American and Chinese.	故曰美华.
545	Well, the Japanese are an island people,	日本人是个岛人
546	and they develop their own very different styles	他们发展自己的风格
547	like most islands.	像大多数岛屿。
548	But they did speak a lot of China	但他们说了很多中国话
549	from the 8th century on.	从8世纪开始
550	And they're the doctors the Chinese have.	他们是中国人的医生
551	And they can write very good classical Chinese.	他们可以写非常好的古典中文
552	And they write the classical Chinese folk.	他们写古典中国民俗.
553	But so, oh, because next to the thing	但是,哦,因为旁边的东西
554	in the rain chamber of Shenzhen,	在深圳的雨厅里
555	some people are the only Chinese now.	有些人是现在唯一的中国人。
556	Actually, when I say it's the only book,	其实,当我说这是唯一的书,
557	I'm very arbitrary about it.	我对此很武断
558	Because for instance, all men are brothers,	比如说,男人都是兄弟
559	but it's a very good novel,	但它是一个非常好的小说,
560	but it's more like folk literature.	但更像是民间文学
561	It's kind of etiquette.	一种礼仪.
562	It grew out of folk literature.	源于民间文学.
563	It's not unique.	非独有.
564	I mean, it doesn't tick aside	我的意思是,它不挂一边
565	the special point of Chinese literature.	中国文学的特殊点.
566	And there are several other good Chinese novels,	还有几部中国小说
567	but each has their own info.	但每个人都有自己的信息。
568	There's another very good one.	还有一个非常好的。
569	It's about the same time as A Dream in the Red Chain.	与"红链"中的"梦"大致相同.
570	The trouble is this author was upset all his life	问题是这位作者一生都心烦意乱
571	and very justly with the problem of blind marriage,	和非常公正的盲目的婚姻问题,
572	unhappy blind marriages,	不幸的盲人婚姻,
573	and can't take her soul.	不能夺走她的灵魂
574	And he wondered why it was so bad.	他想知道为什么这么糟糕
575	And he wrote to use the subject matter again and again	他写信反复使用主题
576	in his very famous role story	在他的著名角色故事中
577	for a strange tale from a Chinese studio	对于一个奇怪的故事从中国的工作室
578	that I think was translated by Zhao.	我认为是赵紫阳翻译的
579	He used the subject again and again,	他反复使用这个话题,
580	and again he expanded this into this big novel.	他又把这个扩展成这本小说
581	The trouble is he came to this conclusion,	麻烦是他得出这个结论
582	the explanation of why it's so bad,	解释为什么如此糟糕,
583	why he seemed so fierce and the husband so hinting.	为什么他看起来这么凶猛丈夫那么暗示
584	And he concluded that it's reincarnation.	他总结说这是转世.
585	The husband owed the wife something in the last life.	上辈子丈夫欠妻子一些东西
586	He did somebody wrong.	他做错了人。
587	And so the other person had his revenge in this life	因此,另一个人有他的复仇在这生命中
588	by becoming his wife and torturing him.	成为他的妻子折磨他
589	So this is a very great form of normal being.	因此,这是一种非常伟大的正常生活形式。
590	He can make two different cases	他可以做两个不同的案子
591	and can take the husband arbitrarily	并且可以任意带走丈夫
592	linked by this reincarnation bit.	由这个转世符连接。
593	So that's rather, it's a great form.	因此,这是相当的,这是一个伟大的形式。
594	So while this novel that I translated,	所以当我翻译的小说,
595	only recently there's a research	最近才开始调查
596	on a dream in the Red Chamber in Peking.	在北京红厅的梦里
597	We said after the dream of the Red Chamber,	我们在红厅的梦中说
598	this novel is Haishanghua.	这本小说是海香华.
599	It's the only one that imitates	这是唯一一个模仿的
600	the style of a dream of the Red Chamber.	红厅梦的风格
601	And it's like it.	则如是.
602	It's a successor.	其继位者.
603	And it did inherit the support.	它确实继承了支持。
604	To my mind, he's done too much in his evaluation	在我看来,他做了太多的评价
605	because it's a greater devotee to the Peking Red Chamber	因为它是北京红厅的忠实信徒
606	because Haishanghua is almost a successor to the novel.	因为海翔华几乎是小说的继承者.
607	It just died out.	它刚刚死了。
608	There's these non-successful novels in form	有这些不成功的小说的形式
609	that reads a lot like in spirit.	读起来很像精神
610	You never get because after Haishanghua	你永远得不到因为海翔华之后
611	came this period of great disgust	到了这个令人厌恶的时期
612	because with China itself,	因为与中国本身,
613	because of the traumatic experience,	由于创伤经历,
614	so I hope he won't,	所以我希望他不会
615	and the government will sort him out	政府会解决他
616	by being small in the flesh.	由小在肉体。
617	And it seems, you know,	看起来,你知道,
618	it seems that was,	这似乎,
619	and the Chinese was both.	而中国人也是
620	With the self-disgust,	带着自我厌恶
621	it's a kind of the inverted echo	一种颠倒的回声
622	because of our pride in our past.	因为我们对过去的骄傲
623	Those are so ashamed and angry.	那些是那么羞耻和愤怒。
624	So the novel became expose	所以小说被曝光了
625	and a very shallow satire	和很浅的讽刺
626	about managing with curious result,	关于用好奇的结果管理,
627	about the westernization,	关于西化,
628	about, for instance,	比如说,
629	it was one that talked mainly about	它是一个主要谈论
630	the foreign return still.	外国的回报还在。
631	It's a very common term,	这是一个非常常见的术语,
632	stick, state, you know,	棒,状态,你知道,
633	I mean, the foreignized Chinese,	我的意思是,外国化的中国人,
634	called, you know, state,	打电话,你知道,州,
635	with the high white color.	与高白颜色.
636	He is very,	他非常喜欢
637	his audience brother,	他的观众兄弟,
638	say, as I said, Vincent,	就像我说的文森特
639	that you will find a heroic Chinese,	你会找到一个英勇的中国人
640	which is a, well,	这是,嗯,
641	a very old-fashioned Chinese language.	一个非常古老的中国语言。
642	And it's a dream,	这是一个梦想,
643	and a real dream, but took a lot from that now.	和真正的梦想, 但带走了很多现在。
644	But it's even longer	但时间更长了
645	because it's so subtle	因为它是如此微妙
646	and so advanced in thinking.	和如此高级的思维。
647	It's so,	这是如此,
648	it's so far ahead,	远在眼前
649	not only of the Chinese time,	不仅是中国时间,
650	but of the Chinese now.	但是现在中国人。
651	One very important point in the story,	故事中很重要的一点
652	and research is now	和研究现在
653	perfect,	完美无缺
654	and also had this	还有这个
655	as a very important point	作为非常重要的一点
656	in the plot from the very beginning,	从头开始,
657	and it lasted through all the rewriting,	它贯穿了所有重写,
658	where he made a lot of changes.	在那里他做了很多改变。
659	This very controversial point	这个很有争议的问题
660	is, well, the hero,	就是那个英雄
661	when he lost everything	当他失去了一切
662	in his late teeth,	他的牙齿晚,
663	at first in his late teeth,	一开始,他的牙齿晚,
664	but later, as early as 60,	但后来,早在60,
665	his family	他的家属
666	had everything confiscated	所有东西都被没收了
667	and he destined it.	他命中注定的,
668	And there's no way of advancement	也没办法进步
669	for him because he doesn't,	对于他,因为他没有,
670	he disproves of the imperial examination	他推翻了皇帝的考试
671	for the artificial form of essay.	人为的散文形式。
672	And he, so there's no other	他,所以没有其他
673	openings for an educated Chinese	一个受过教育的中国人
674	at the time, and he couldn't do manual labor.	当时他无法做体力劳动
675	He was just simply helpless.	他只是无助。
676	And this labor slave girl,	还有这个奴隶女孩
677	with whom he had an affair,	他与他有染,
678	he was a boy,	他是个男孩,
679	and she's the only one	她是唯一一个
680	that had the relation	关系
681	And she married an actor.	她嫁给了一个演员
682	She left him and married an actor	她离开了他,嫁给了一个演员
683	who he adored when he was	当他崇拜他的时候,
684	a very young boy because they blessed	一个很小的男孩,因为他们祝福
685	this role	这个角色
686	for homosexuality in China,	对于同性恋在中国,
687	in 18th century China,	在18世纪的中国,
688	almost as common as in ancient Greece.	几乎和古希腊一样常见.
689	But his relation with this actor	但他和这个演员的关系
690	is mostly spiritual because	大部分是精神的,因为
691	he admired him for his beauty and for his acting.	他欣赏他的美丽和表演
692	And this mutual admiration	这相互敬佩
693	that was, admired this hero	被这个英雄所钦佩
694	as being a very dashing boy.	作为一个非常破碎的男孩。
695	So this slave girl married this actor	所以这个奴隶女孩嫁给了这个演员
696	and the two of them	和他们俩
697	helped this hero financially	帮了这个英雄
698	and kept him and his wife	他和他的妻子,
699	by then he married.	然后他结婚了。
700	So this, you know, the Chinese	所以,你知道,中国人
701	simply couldn't take	根本无法承受
702	and they can't take it even now	他们现在也受不了了
703	because first of all	因为首先
704	the 18th century Chinese	18世纪的中国
705	hated this slave girl for leaving	讨厌这个奴隶女孩离开
706	because this loyalty,	因为这种忠诚,
707	this betrayal,	这种背叛,
708	especially after he lost his fortune.	特别是在他失去财富之后
709	This was awful.	这是可怕的。
710	And what if she helped financially?	如果她有经济帮助呢?
711	It doesn't make up for her	这不能弥补她
712	horrible behavior.	糟糕的行为
713	While, for instance, the Americans now	比如说,美国人现在
714	think rather poorly of the heroes	想想那些英雄们
715	for being an able-bodied man	是个强壮的人
716	and living on a girl that he used to love.	住在他曾经爱过的女孩身上
717	You know, it's almost	你知道,这几乎
718	like a pimper.	像个皮条客
719	And also makes a very	也让一个非常
720	fine thing out of it.	不错啊
721	And three of them remain friends afterwards, you know.	之后他们三个还是朋友
722	Beautiful relationship.	美丽的关系。
723	It just shows how she's on	它只是显示她是如何
724	because the story is so sad.	因为故事是如此的悲伤。
725	So, how many	那么,有多少个
726	are there?	有吗?
727	Well, I think it's too many I'm calling it.	我觉得我叫它太多了
728	But there is a lack of	但是没有
729	a certain Chinese link	某个中文链接
730	that tells us it's firm	这告诉我们它很坚固
731	from a very big reason.	从一个非常大的原因。
732	You know, some tell it's so sad	你知道,有人说这太可悲了
733	that it helps them, you know,	帮助他们,你知道,
734	those who've weakened minds, for example,	比如说那些弱智的人
735	have fulfilled down-to-the-side wants.	已经实现了向下向下的愿望。
736	There are, you know, a few reasons	有几个原因
737	why you think so much of this.	你为什么这么想?
738	In your face, but it's not humble.	面中却不卑贱.
739	I heard that there are about 3,000 Chinese characters in Chinese games.	听说中国游戏中约有3000个中国人物.
740	I remember as a child, actually the only greeting that any elder has for you is	我小时候记得任何长辈对你的唯一问候
741	how many characters do you know now?	你现在知道多少角色?
742	That invariably they ask you that, you know.	他们总是这么问你
743	And I would say, I don't know, I used to say about 200, 300, you know,	而且我会说,我不知道, 我以前说大约200,300,你知道,
744	something like that, but I really don't know.	类似的东西, 但我真的不知道。
745	And I imagine that about correct because they always nod when they hear me.	我想这是正确的因为他们总是点头当我听到。
746	How many Chinese characters do you know?	你认识多少中国人物?
747	There's more than he done, but the rest are more archaic characters.	虽然他做得更多,但其余的都是更古老的人物.
748	So, for those very happy, how many characters do you know?	那么,对于那些非常快乐的人, 你知道多少角色?
749	Not too many Chinese characters.	不太多中国人物.
750	I heard that there are about 3,000 Chinese characters in Chinese games.	听说中国游戏中约有3000个中国人物.
751	So, how many characters do you know?	你认识多少个角色?
752	You expected to know, you found it.	你期待知道,你发现了它。
753	You did?	是吗?
754	You know, you know.	你知道吗?
755	Sadly, you people didn't already know.	可惜你们不知道
756	That's just selfish of me.	这太自私了
757	So, this time it's fun to find out more.	所以,这一次,它的乐趣发现更多。
758	How many characters do you know?	你认识多少个角色?
759	Oh, definitely Chinese characters.	绝对是中国人物
760	When I was a child, Chinese characters used to be the first Chinese characters.	小时候,中国人物曾是最早的中国人物.
761	And after I invented the Chinese characters, still yes, I know.	在我发明了中国人物之后,还是有的,我知道。
762	Oh, they're Chinese.	哦,他们是中国人。
763	So, I only have one Chinese character.	我只有一个中国特色
764	Oh, yeah.	对
765	I thought so.	我想是这样。
766	I don't know.	师曰.
767	But I'm sure you're right.	但我相信你是对的
768	Maybe it's their creation.	也许这是他们的创造
769	After this time, when did this thing fall?	这次之后,这东西什么时候掉下来的?
770	I think we should try the X-Control.	我觉得我们应该试试X控制
771	They are, but we get...	他们是,但我们得到...
772	Don't worry.	别担心
773	Rather than...	而不是说...
774	Just tell us, then.	那就告诉我们吧
775	But I don't know.	却不知.
776	Well, it makes for a little electricity.	嗯,它使一点点电。
777	So, true meaning has.	所以,真正的意义是。
778	Making such a difference, you people.	你们这帮家伙真有一套
779	What else?	还有什么?
780	All right.	好吧,我们走。
781	I think most of these know.	我想他们大多知道
782	Wow.	珃
783	I think 3,000 books have been added.	我想已经增加了3000本书。
784	So, you can read.	所以,你会阅读。
785	New science books, right?	新的科学书籍,对不对?
786	Chinese, yes.	中国人,是的。
787	And a lot of other books.	还有很多其他的书
788	For the children, yes.	为了孩子们,是的。
789	On the V side, yes.	V边,是的。
790	Yes.	对
791	They have...	他们...
792	They have created a lot of new characters,	他们创造了许多新的角色,
793	like synthesized strokes.	像合成的中风。
794	And you can't make it out.	则不能出.
795	No, I mean...	不我是说...
796	Then it does make it feel difficult	那确实很难受
797	to see mainline applications.	以查看主线应用程序。
798	It's so new.	这是这么新的。
799	They use so many abbreviations.	他们使用这么多的缩写。
800	But that's one that's very effective.	但是,这是一个非常有效的。
801	It's a good tool for writing your literacy.	这是写你识字的好工具.
802	The Chinese tried many things in the 1920s.	1920年代中国人尝试了许多事情.
803	They tried to...	他们试图...
804	They invented an algorithm for animal rights	他们发明了一种动物权益的算法
805	instead of the Chinese had.	而不是中国人
806	But I remember I learned it when I was a child.	但我记得我小时候学的
807	That was before then.	这是在那之前。
808	Then we forgot it because it never spread.	然后我们忘了它,因为它从来没有扩散。
809	And then there was some advocates	后来有人主张
810	for using English to romanize Chinese characters.	用于使用英语将汉字罗马化。
811	But that never went very far.	但是,这从未取得很大进展。
812	Basically, it's just...	基本上,这只是...
813	Basically...	基本上...
814	I was only comparing the Chinese books.	我只是比较中国的书
815	对我知道 Yeah, I know.
816	We were not aware of the Chinese.	我们不知道中国人。
817	Basically, it's in English.	基本上,这是英语。
818	Versus?	弗苏斯?
819	I don't think it's time to try to teach English	我觉得现在不是教英语的时候
820	in the face of the earth.	面对大地.
821	Yes, there's no more.	是的,没有了。
822	But I like the reading.	但我喜欢阅读。
823	It's a little...	有点...
824	I was born in 1923.	我出生于1923年.
825	No, it's too long.	不,太长了。
826	It's too short for that.	这太短了
827	No, but it's still a great history.	没有,但它仍然是一个伟大的历史。
828	It's actually the language that	其实就是这种语言
829	I was sent to marriage	我被送去结婚
830	when I was a child.	当我还是个孩子。
831	Part of it was English.	一部分是英语。
832	And I think it was very well learned	我认为这是非常有学问的
833	because I was able to learn a variety of things.	因为我能学到很多东西
834	So I'm very proud of it.	故极为荣.
835	It wasn't...	这不是...
836	Sometimes, the characters have colors.	有时,人物有颜色.
837	I mean, it looks...	我的意思是,看起来...
838	It explains something visually.	它解释一些视觉的东西。
839	That's one of the reasons why	这就是为什么
840	romanization is so colorless.	罗马化如此无色.
841	You call it colorless.	你称之为无色.
842	And one of the big problems with romanization	罗马化的一个大问题
843	is nobody can pronounce it.	没人能发音
844	I mean, they have a system that...	我的意思是,他们有一个系统...
845	I mean, you can't go and teach everyone	我是说你不能去教每个人
846	how to pronounce romanization.	如何发音罗马化。
847	My name is Zhang.	姓张.
848	It's a rare change.	变化难得.
849	It has nothing to do with the way it's pronounced.	与释法无相.
850	So why spell out words in a misleading way?	那么为什么用误导的方式来拼写词语呢?
851	So I thought of the idea when I first had this novel	所以我想到了这个想法当我第一次有这部小说
852	of spelling it the way it's pronounced.	拼写它的方式它的宣告。
853	And I thought, you see, because Chinese scholars	我想,你看,因为中国的学者
854	and some stenologists	和一些速记学家
855	get set against not using romanization.	不使用罗马化。
856	They all hold romanization.	他们都持有罗马化。
857	If you don't use it, it's a simple thing.	不用此法即是简义.
858	You don't know it.	汝不识.
859	They only take for granted.	他们只是理所当然的。
860	You don't know it.	汝不识.
861	So I thought circumference	所以我觉得周而复始
862	by spelling out the names in Shanghai dialect.	通过在上海方言中拼写地名.
863	I saw how Hawaiian-made Japanese	我看见夏威夷制造的日本人
864	spell out the English in a way	用某种方式说出英语
865	that's very easy to pronounce.	很容易发音
866	I mean, it's spelled exactly the way it's pronounced.	我的意思是,它的拼写完全按照它的宣告方式。
867	So this Shanghai dialect and Siu Chao dialect,	因此,这个上海方言和小乔方言,
868	the language of this book I'm trying to say,	我想说的是这本书的语言
869	the dialogue in Siu Chao dialect,	在小乔方言中的对话,
870	it sounds rather like Hawaiian Chinese,	听起来像夏威夷的中国人
871	more so than the Mandarin.	比普通话还要多
872	So I thought to spell out the names in that dialect	所以我想在方言中说出名字
873	and then the synonyms with the whole subject.	然后与整个主题的同义词。
874	But then I thought with that,	但后来我想,
875	but then there are some names very hard to pronounce.	但有些名字很难发音
876	In the end, I just go flat-heart instead of that.	最后,我只是去平心,而不是那个。
877	Go feeling.	去感觉。

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