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黄仁勋对谈马斯克:AI 正在“再工业化”美国,但电网首先要撑

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0:01Hey, team.嘿,团队。
0:01Oh, gee.哦,耶稣。
0:03Yeah.对
0:04Are we late?我们迟到了吗?
0:07Guys?伙计们?
0:08Good to be here.很高兴来到这里。
0:09Go, America.去,美国。
0:11Team America.美国队.
0:12Yes, indeed.是的,确实。
0:14So America, Wright Brothers, first man on the moon, the internet.美国,莱特兄弟,第一个登月的人,互联网。
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1Hey, team.嘿,团队。
2Oh, gee.哦,耶稣。
3Yeah.对
4Are we late?我们迟到了吗?
5Guys?伙计们?
6Good to be here.很高兴来到这里。
7Go, America.去,美国。
8Team America.美国队.
9Yes, indeed.是的,确实。
10So America, Wright Brothers, first man on the moon, the internet.美国,莱特兄弟,第一个登月的人,互联网。
11The two of us, Wright Brothers.我们两个,莱特兄弟
12I like that, indeed.我喜欢,真的。
13We've essentially led every major technological revolution, which has been to the enormous我们基本上领导了 每一个重大技术革命, 这是巨大的
14benefit of America, ordinary Americans, where I guess we're now calling this superintelligence,从美国,普通美国人那里得到好处 我想我们现在称之为超级情报
15which I think is actually good branding.我认为这其实是很好的品牌。
16And so let's talk about how America wins this, and we make that winning good for ordinary让我们来谈谈美国如何赢得这个, 我们让赢得这个好处 对于普通
17Americans.美国人
18Well, excuse me, Dicoke, sorry.对不起,迪科克,对不起
19So first of all, artificial superintelligence, superintelligence, is a complete reinvention所以,首先,人工超智能,超智能, 是一个完整的革新
20of the computing stack.计算堆栈。
21Everything from the way the processors, the chips are designed and the way they operate所有从处理器的方式,芯片的设计 和操作的方式
22to the way software is now trained and developed to the way that the applications are able软件的培训和开发方式
23to perform, what they're able to do and how they perform.表演,他们能做什么和如何表演。
24Every single layer of the computing stack has been reinvented.计算堆栈的每层都进行了重塑。
25This way of doing computing, unlike previous ways of retrieving information, this is a这种计算方式,与以前检索信息的方式不同,是一种
26The first thing we need is energy, because we need the energies to run the compute, the我们首先需要的是能量 因为我们需要能量来进行计算
27compute, run the algorithms, the algorithms, then feed the applications.计算,运行算法,算法,然后反馈应用.
28And so at the foundational layer is energy, and from that energy, we build the land power因此,在基础层是能源, 从这种能源,我们建设土地动力
29and shell and that hosts the infrastructure, so on and so forth.和贝壳, 以及那些主 基础设施,等等。
30And so the way we win, of course, we are world class in chip design, we're world class in所以,我们赢的方式,当然, 我们是世界一流的芯片设计,
31algorithm development.算法开发。
32And so one of the things that we need to do is just be vigilant about enabling power delivery所以,我们需要做的一件事 就是保持警觉 使发电
33and power generation to happen, and President Trump has been visionary in being pro-energy.特朗普总统一直有远见地支持能源。
34Without the pro-energy vision of President Trump, it would have been impossible for us没有川普总统的能源愿景,我们就不可能
35to build the data centers on top of it.在上面建数据中心
36Now of course, these data centers are coming online so quickly, we're coming into a lot当然,这些数据中心 上线的速度太快,我们进入了很多
37of neighborhoods and a lot of communities.和很多社区。
38We have to do a better job and partner with the communities and bring them along and make我们必须做一个更好的工作, 与社区合作, 带他们一起,
39them part of the prosperity and the success of this industrial revolution.它们是工业革命繁荣和成功的一部分。
40But that's how we win.但我们就是这样赢的。
41We got to build the world's best chips, we have to have lots and lots of energy, create我们必须制造出世界上最好的芯片, 我们需要大量的能量,创造
42incredible algorithms, and then lastly, make sure that America is enthusiastic about the不可思议的算法,最后, 确保美国热衷于
43technology so that we diffuse it into all of these various industries, from manufacturing将技术传播到从制造业到所有这些行业
44to healthcare, space exploration, so on and so forth.医疗,太空探索等等
45Awesome.厉害
46Elon, how do we win?伊隆,我们怎么赢?
47How do we keep winning?我们怎么继续赢?
48Well, we need a lot of power, a lot of energy generation.我们需要大量的电力,大量的能源。
49So scaling energy I think is one of the biggest things.放大能量是最大的问题之一。
50You've got to scale energy, you've got to scale chip production, and I think we're winning你必须扩大能量, 你必须扩大芯片生产, 我认为我们赢了
51on software, on anything intellectual or digital.在软件上,任何知识或数字。
52But in the long run, we need to be able to generate enough power to compete with, I think但是,从长远来看,我们需要 能够产生足够的力量 竞争,我认为
53essentially China is the biggest competitor, and China has about three times the electricity基本上,中国是最大的竞争者, 中国有大约三倍的电力
54production of the United States, and I think we'll figure out how to make ships.我想我们会想办法造船的
55So really the central challenge I think is long term is going to be how do you generate所以,真的中心挑战 我认为是长期 将是如何产生
56enough power, and how do you ensure that we have enough logic and memory fabrication capacity你如何确保我们有足够的逻辑和记忆制造能力
57in the United States or in a safe region?在美国还是安全地区?
58We need the Wright brothers on the job.我们需要莱特兄弟来工作
59Well, it turns out the Wright brothers are on the job.原来莱特兄弟在工作
60Elon, if you bring on 10 gigawatts, which SpaceX has discussed publicly, that'll be伊隆,如果你带来10千兆瓦, SpaceX已经公开讨论过,那将是
61about 25% of all the power added in America, and I know you have literal rocket engineers大约25%的电力在美国增加, 我知道你有 字面火箭工程师
62working on bringing on the power, helping make the turbines.帮助制造涡轮机
63So can you talk about that?你能谈谈吗?
64Yeah, just to frame this, the average power consumption in the United States is about是啊,只是为这个框架, 美国平均耗电量是大约
65500 gigawatts.五百千亿瓦.
66So every 5 gigawatts of incremental steady state production is a 1% increase in the power所以每5千兆瓦的增量稳定生产 电力增长1%
67used.已使用。
68And I think actually will materialize to be approximately 1% increase in GDP, because我认为实际上会实现 大约1%的GDP增长,因为
69the intelligence per watt keeps increasing.每瓦的智能不断增长。
70So if you just plot on a curve, how is the useful intelligence per watt increasing?所以,如果你在曲线上画图, 每瓦的有用智能是如何增加的?
71How is the, both at the hardware level, at Jensen's, GPUs keep getting better in terms无论是在硬件层面,在Jensen的GPU 如何不断改进
72of the compute per watt, and the algorithms also get better in getting more intelligence计算每瓦的计算,算法在获得更多的智能方面也会更好
73per watt.每瓦时。
74So that's maybe an interesting note.这也许是个有趣的提示
75I would bet anyone that 1% increase in power usage corresponds to roughly 1% increase in我敢打赌,1%的功率增加 大约相当于1%
76GDP.国产总值.
77And so 10 gigawatts would be a 2% increase in GDP, with the Rubens, I think.10千兆瓦的GDP增长2%, 我想是鲁本斯。
78So let's do the simple math.因此,让我们做简单的数学。
79So each gigawatt can probably generate about, call it $40, $50 billion of economic output所以,每千兆瓦可能 产生大约,叫它400,500亿美元的经济产出
80each year.每年。
81Yeah, I mean, 1% would be, yeah, I mean, yeah.是啊,我的意思是,1%将是,是啊,我的意思是,是啊。
821% of the United States would be...1%的美国将...
83300 billion.三千亿.
84Yeah, 300 billion.是啊,3000亿。
85And so 50, 1 sixth.还有50,1,6
861% of the, 1% increase, so 5 gigawatts would be, yeah, 5 gigawatts would be 300 billion.其中1%,1%增加, 所以5千兆瓦将是,是的,5千兆瓦将是3000亿。
87Yeah, right.没错
88Exactly.没错
89It's pretty close.离这里很近
9060 billion a gigawatt, yeah.600亿千兆瓦,是的。
91That's right.没错
92The math, math.数学,数学。
93Yes.对
94Yeah, yeah.对 对
95That's what we're good at.这就是我们擅长的。
96Yes, yes.对,对。
97Not good at too many other things, but math.不擅长很多其他的事情,但数学。
98Yeah, I mean, it's going to increase quite dramatically year over year.是的,我的意思是,它会 相当猛增的一年。
99So yeah, I mean, from a SpaceX standpoint, we're looking at long-term, how do we access所以说,从SpaceX的角度来看,我们正在研究长远,我们如何进入
100a lot more energy than could be accessed on the ground, and that's with space.能量比地面上的能量要大得多 空间就是如此
101So orbital compute is going to be a very big deal.所以轨道计算将是一个非常大的问题。
102In fact, and Google agrees, they just actually sent up, or either about to, or soon about事实上,Google也同意, 他们实际上只是发送, 或即将,或很快
103to send up some TPUs.发送一些TPU。
104I think there was an H100 that was put into orbit like last year, I think.我认为有一架H100 和去年一样被送入轨道
105So it does work in space.所以它确实在太空工作。
106And SpaceX is aiming together with Tesla to do 200 gigawatts of solar production per year.而SpaceX正与Tesla一起致力于每年完成200千兆瓦的太阳能生产.
107And if brought to space, you get the nameplate or better on the solar power, whereas if it's如果带到太空,你可以得到命名板 或更好的太阳能,而如果它是
108on the ground, you're going to get somewhere between a fifth and an eighth of the solar在地上,你会得到 太阳的五到八之间的某个地方
109power generation, and you need enormous batteries.发电,你需要巨大的电池。
110So whereas it's essentially always sunny in space.所以,虽然它基本上总是 阳光的空间。
111And right now is a great time to do it, because the economic returns of these computing systems现在是一个大好时机 做到这一点,因为 这些计算系统的经济回报
112are so good that the launch cost, although still quite high, in terms of the overall发射成本虽然仍然很高,但就总体而言,
113economic benefit, is quite affordable.经济效益是相当负担得起的。
114Absolutely.当然
115This is the perfect time to do it.这是做到这一点的最佳时机。
116Putting NVIDIA compute in space is the best way to get there.将NVIDIA计算在太空是到达那里的最佳方法.
117Climbing the Kardashev scale with American power and American chips on American rockets,攀登卡尔达舍夫规模 在美国火箭上拥有美国力量和美国芯片,
118I love it.我喜欢它。
119So Jensen, you said something that I thought was important about how when we bring theJensen 你说过一些话 我认为很重要的
120energy to all these small towns, we're re-industrializing America, we're revitalizing small towns,能源对所有这些小城镇, 我们正在重新工业化 美国, 我们正在振兴小城镇,
121we're modernizing the grid.我们正在更新电网
122These are things that essentially every American politician has wanted for the last 35 years.这些都是过去35年来 美国政治家们所希望的
123What would you say, what are some specifics you can give about how data centers are good你会说,什么是一些细节 你可以给出 如何数据中心是好的
124for ordinary Americans in the communities, and how they're getting better for those communities?对于社区中的普通美国人, 他们是如何改善这些社区?
125We used to call them data centers, because that's where we hold data.我们曾经叫它们数据中心, 因为这就是我们保存数据的地方。
126But the things that we're building now, these are really SI factories, super intelligence但是,我们现在正在建造的东西, 这些真的是SI工厂,超级智能
127factories.工厂。
128And the reason why it's a factory is because you're producing something of economic value,这是工厂的原因 是因为你正在生产一些有经济价值的东西
129you're just not storing it.你只是没有储存它。
130So these SI factories are real factories.所以这些SI工厂是真正的工厂.
131It's like a big giant power generator in real factories, got a lot of computing and networking就像真正的工厂里的巨型发电机 拥有大量的计算和网络
132in there, power generation, cooling systems, it's complicated things.在那里,发电,冷却系统, 这是复杂的事情。
133And so we're building out, just as the internet today allows you to find anything anywhere,所以,我们正在建设, 就像今天的互联网 允许你找到任何地方,
134in the future with these AI, excuse me, SI infrastructure, SI factories, you'll be able将来用这些AI,对不起,SI基础设施,SI工厂,你就能
135to know anything and do anything from anywhere.了解一切,从任何地方做任何事情。
136And so now we're building this infrastructure out, and we call it across all of the United所以,现在我们正在建造这个基础设施, 我们称之为全联合。
137States, somewhere between 10, 20 gigawatts a year.州,每年10到20千兆瓦左右。
138Just estimate, that creates just probably about a million jobs in building out these估计一下,这可能会创造 大约100万个工作 建造这些
139data centers.数据中心。
140Don't forget, you've got to build the power generation plants, you've got to build the别忘了,你必须建造发电站,你必须建造
141data centers, you've got construction, you've got power cooling, you've got pipe fitters.数据中心,你有建筑, 你有电源冷却, 你有管道安装。
142And so this is the first time in probably, as you mentioned, 35, I was going to say 50所以,这可能是第一次, 正如你提到, 35,我要说50
143years, first time in 50 years, we are re-industrializing the United States, creating a whole bunch多年来,我们50年来第一次 重新工业化美国, 创造了一大堆
144of blue collar jobs.蓝领工作。
145And I think we want an economy that has a shape that includes white collar jobs and我想我们想要一个经济的形状 包括白领工作
146blue collar jobs, not just white collar jobs.蓝领工作 不只是白领工作
147And so I think that this is our great chance of reshaping our economy and bringing that所以我认为,这是我们 重塑经济并带来
148type of builders and craft back into the United States.一种回到美国的建筑工匠
149Absolutely.当然
150我的意思是,这感觉就像 Colossus和MacroHard和MacroHard所做的
151amazing, the communities around them, the jobs they've created, how do you think about令人惊奇的是,周围的社区, 他们创造的工作,
152that?那个?
153Yeah, I mean, the economic impact, the positive economic impact has been tremendous.是啊,我的意思是,经济影响, 积极的经济影响是巨大的。
154I mean, there's actually a job shortage in the region, whereas there used to be quite我的意思是,这个地区实际上存在 工作短缺,而过去有相当
155a bit of unemployment, and now there's over-employment, if you will.有点失业, 现在有过度就业, 如果你愿意。
156There's more jobs than there are people.就业比人多.
157And the tax benefits for the community have been tremendous.税收给社区带来了巨大的好处。
158I think we might have doubled their tax budget or something quite tremendous.我认为我们可能已经加倍 他们的税收预算或 相当巨大的东西。
159We do small things that are helpful, like provide low-priced, half-priced stalling access.我们做一些有帮助的小事情,比如提供低价,半价的延缓访问.
160We're building a water recycling plant that's a $250 million water recycling plant.我们正在建设一座耗资2.5亿元的水回收厂.
161I think you do need to do things for the community, and if you do so, they will reciprocate.我认为你确实需要为社区做一些事情,如果你这样做,他们会做出回报.
162Awesome.厉害
163Now, one of the things that people forget is that for the first time in probably forever,现在,人们忘记的一件事是, 在可能永远的第一次,
164that we have the market forces to support the investment of sustainable energy.我们拥有支持可持续能源投资的市场力量。
165You give me an example of a fusion, fission, small nuclear reactor, large reactor, almost给我一个核聚变 裂变 小型核反应堆 大型反应堆的例子
166every form of sustainable energy is being funded today.今天,各种形式的可持续能源都得到了资助。
167And so we have the opportunity to fund the future of energy without the government subsidizing.因此我们有机会在没有政府补贴的情况下为能源的未来提供资金。
168You give me an example of a great energy battery storage idea.你给我一个伟大的能量电池存储想法的例子。
169It's going to get funded.将得资粮.
170By the way, on behalf of all Americans, I want to thank both of you.顺便说一句,我代表所有美国人, 感谢你们两个。
171I think combined, you have created more than $5 trillion of wealth for ordinary Americans我认为你为普通美国人创造了超过5万亿美元的财富
172in their 401Ks, tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of jobs directly, many tens of在他们的401K,数万, 也许数十万工作直接,数万
173millions of wages.百万工资.
174So thank you.谢谢
175I think Jensen's done $5 trillion by himself, actually.我觉得詹森自己做了5万亿美元,其实。
176I'm sorry?你说什么?
177I think Jensen's done $5 trillion by himself.我想詹森一个人做了5万亿美元。
178I think I'm around three and a half or something.我想我在三点半左右
179I was trying to be conservative.我试图保守。
180So you guys both had a great Monday.你们周一玩得很开心
181I was watching the Starship launch, first orbital Starship launch, while I was reading我在看星舰发射 第一次轨道星舰发射 当我在读
182about the Open Agent Safety Framework from NVIDIA, which was an exciting morning.关于开放代理安全框架 来自NVIDIA, 这是一个令人兴奋的早晨。
183So maybe you could each talk about each of those, because we need Starship to get those所以,也许你可以每个人都谈论 每一个,因为我们需要星舰来得到这些
184200 gigawatts of American solder with American chips, American superintelligence, into orbit.200千兆瓦的美国售货机,配有美国芯片,美国超级智能,进入轨道.
185I'll talk about his, and you'll talk about mine.我会说起他的,你会说起我的
186No, I'm just kidding.不,我只是在开玩笑。
187So let's see.让我们来看看。
188As you know, we want to advance AI, advance SI.如你所知,我们想推进AI,推进SI.
189We're going to advance SI in a responsible and optimistic way.我们要以负责和乐观的方式推进SI.
190And we know that the future, we strongly believe that the future that SI is going to enable我们知道,未来,我们强烈相信, SI将要实现的未来
191is the future that we want to be part of.是我们想要参与的未来。
192And so we're optimistic about that, and that's the reason why we're driving so hard.因此,我们对此持乐观态度,这也是我们如此努力驾驶的原因.
193On the other hand, we have to make sure that we develop this technology safely and securely.另一方面,我们必须确保安全地发展这种技术。
194There are several different parts of it.有好几个不同的部分。
195While you're training the model, that's generally a fairly safe environment.在你训练这个模型的同时, 这一般是一个相当安全的环境。
196But while you're evaluating the model, while you're testing the model, you have to make但是当你在评估模型的时候, 当你在测试模型的时候, 你必须做出
197sure that the agentic system, the model itself, is highly contained.确保代理系统,模型本身, 被高度控制。
198That containment system has to be really secure.这种控制系统必须非常安全。
199And the second thing is that while you're testing it, you want to monitor that, even第二件事是,当你测试它的时候, 你想监视它,甚至
200though you have it contained, you should never trust that it's contained, and so you want虽然你控制住了,但你不应该相信 它控制了,所以你想
201to monitor it in real time.实时监控
202And you want to ideally monitor it with another chip, so that it is outside, if you will,你想最好用另一个芯片来监视它 所以它就在外面 如果你愿意的话
203called out of band, outside the environment, outside the sandbox of the agent itself.在环境之外,在代理商本身的沙盒之外。
204And so you want to contain, and you want to monitor.所以,你想控制,你想监视。
205Once you're done evaluating in this way, when you deploy, you want to use a very similar一旦你用这种方式评估完, 当你部署时,你想使用一个非常相似的
206system.系统。
207And this is no different than just about any digital, any human employee that you hire.这和你雇用的 任何数字化的员工没什么区别
208You've given them a containment of rights and tools and access, and then you monitor你让他们控制了权利 工具 和进入,然后你监测
209on a regular basis, on a continuous basis.定期,持续.
210And so in the case of agents, we just have to make sure containment and monitoring has因此,对于特工, 我们只需要确保 控制和监测有
211to be done in the most secure of ways.以最安全的方式进行
212And we introduced two technologies.我们引进了两种技术。
213One's called Open Shell.一者名为开壳.
214It's a containment system.这是一种封闭系统。
215It's basically kind of like a browser for websites.基本上就像网站的浏览器。
216It's now essentially a browser of agents.现在基本上是一个代理的浏览器.
217And that browser keeps the agent isolated from the rest of the computer, and the rights而浏览器使代理 与其余的计算机,和权利
218that you give it are only the rights it should have.你只赋予它应有的权利。
219And then the monitoring system is a new chip called Bluefield, and it keeps an eye on everything监控系统是新的芯片 叫做Bluefield 它监视着一切
220that the agent is doing at all times.代理随时都在做。
221And if it does anything that's out of bounds and against the policy that has been given,如果它做了任何超出界限和违背 已经给予的政策,
222then it escalates as far as you need it to escalate.然后它升级,只要你需要它升级。
223And I thought it was a great analogy in the technical blog, where you said in the early我认为这是一个伟大的类比 在技术博客, 你在早期说
224days of Internet, everybody was worried about your credit card could get stolen.人们担心你的信用卡会被偷
225We made the Internet safe, and that's why we have Amazon, we have Netflix, we have Google,我们让互联网安全, 这就是为什么我们有亚马逊, 我们有Netflix,我们有谷歌,
226we have X.我们有X。
227We have so many great things because we made the Internet safe.我们有很多伟大的东西,因为我们使互联网安全。
228Now we're doing the same with AI.现在我们对AI也一样
229And safety is not inconsistent with advancing the technology.而安全性与推进技术并不矛盾.
230Safety and advancing the technology is one and the same thing.安全和推进技术是一回事。
231It's no different than when you have autopilot.和自动驾驶没什么区别
232Not only is it advanced technology, it's also safer technology.它不仅是先进的技术,也是更安全的技术.
233And so you advance the technology in that way.因此,你以这种方式推进技术。
234The two are not in conflict.两者没有冲突。
235The idea that if you advance capability, it somehow compromises safety.这个想法,如果你提高能力, 它在某种程度上会损害安全。
236If you advance safety, somehow you fall behind.如果你推进安全,不知怎的你落在后面。
237Those are false choices.这些都是错误的选择。
238Safety lets us accelerate.安全让我们加快速度。
239But Elon, if the Starship is going to be a big part of those 200 gigawatts, what can但是伊隆 如果"星际飞船"能成为200千兆瓦的
240you tell us about Monday's flight, what you learned, how you're feeling about the program?你告诉我们周一的航班, 你学到了什么, 你对节目有什么感觉?
241I think the Starship is going great.我觉得星际飞船很顺利
242We took Starship to orbit for the first time, and we deployed Starlink B3 satellites, which我们搭载星舰首次进入轨道, 我们部署了星链B3卫星,
243are enormous satellites.是巨大的卫星。
244I mean, these are satellites with wingspan of 737, so really enormous.我的意思是,这些卫星的翼展为737,非常庞大。
245In fact, it's the largest payload delivered to orbit since Skylab.事实上,它是自Skylab以来送入轨道的最大有效载荷.
246So now we expect Starship to ultimately, next year I think, probably reach a weekly or twice所以现在我们期望星舰最终,明年,我想, 可能达到每周或两次
247weekly cadence.每周节奏。
248We've got not Tom Brown here.这里没有汤姆·布朗
249I know him by his ex-handle.我认识他的前手。
250Welcome.欢迎
251Good to see you guys again.很高兴再次见到你们。
252It's a long lunch.午餐时间很长
253Yes, it was.没错
254My car took a wrong turn, so you guys got here faster than me.我的车转错弯了 你们来得比我快
255Impressive.厉害
256I'm glad you made it.我很高兴你能来
257Elon, please continue.伊隆,请继续
258We're talking about how Starship is going to let us get to 200 gigs of American solar我们说的是星际飞船会如何让我们 得到200吉特的美国太阳能
259with American ships with American superintelligence.与美国舰船 与美国超级情报。
260Yes, Starship is going to do a lot of things.是的,星舰会做很多事情。
261It's intended to carry enough payload to the moon and Mars to build a self-growing city它打算载着足够的载荷到月球和火星 来建立一个自我成长的城市
262on the moon and Mars.在月球和火星上。
263I think as a rough order of magnitude, you need about a million tons to deliver to the我认为,作为一个粗略的量级顺序, 你需要大约一百万吨 交付给
264moon to create a self-growing city or a similar number for Mars.月球为火星创建自我成长的城市或类似数字.
265And then in addition, it will launch at least 300 gigawatts a year of AI compute.此外,它每年至少将推出300千兆瓦的AI计算.
266200 gigawatts a year would be a 40 percent increase annually in the United States total每年200千兆瓦,每年增加40%
267energy consumption.能源消耗。
268So that's quite a big number.所以这是相当大的数字。
269And it might end up being a terawatt one day.有一天它可能会变成千兆瓦。
270So this is serious tonnage.所以这是严重的吨位。
271Awesome.厉害
272And Tom, Anthropic, your company, your co-founder of Anthropic, you announced Opus 5.5汤姆,安特罗皮克,你的公司,你的联合创始人 安特罗皮克,你宣布了Opus 5.5
273in the last several days.过去几天
274And I thought maybe we'd go to the exponential that we are on.我想也许我们可以去 指数我们是在。
275And I think it's helpful to ground what can Opus 5.5, and maybe it's for everybody,我认为它帮助地面什么可以 Opus 5.5, 也许这是每个人,
276what can Opus 5.5 do to make the lives of ordinary Americans better today?奥普斯5.5能做些什么来改善普通美国人今天的生活?
277And where are we going to be in a year?一年后我们要去哪儿?
278Yeah, so Opus 5.5 is a model that I think just continues the normal progress that we've是啊,所以Opus 5.5是一个模型 我认为只是继续 我们的正常进步
279had of getting kind of more IQ points for each of these super intelligences with each每一个超级情报员 都能得到更多的智商分数
280model release.模型发布。
281And so the main things that people will see if they use it now is that it can do a task所以人们会看到的主要事情 如果他们现在使用它 是一个任务
282that takes a longer time than they'd be able to delegate to a previous model.这需要更长的时间 他们可以委托给之前的模型。
283And so I think the things that people should see is just like as a normal American,所以我认为人们应该看到的东西 就像一个正常的美国人,
284if you want a task, if you want to actually delegate a task to it, it will be able to如果你想要一个任务, 如果你真的想要将一个任务交给它, 它将能够
285do that better is one thing.做得更好是一回事。
286And then two is a thing that I think people notice less, which is just that there's going还有两件事情我想人们注意得更少, 也就是说...
287to be a huge amount of software being written by these models.成为大量软件 这些模型正在写。
288And so all of the products that people use are going to be getting higher quality,所以人们使用的所有产品 都会提高质量
289cheaper over time.越来越便宜了
290And it'll have this effect of just like all of the tools that we use now were written就像我们现在使用的工具一样
291by people doing engineering work.由从事工程工作的人。
292And now it's going to be written by both people and super intelligences doing much,现在人们和超级情报人员都会写下
293much more engineering work than was possible before.工程工作比以前要多得多。
294Absolutely, but I think it's doing so much more than this.绝对的,但我觉得它做的 远不止这一点。
295There's already multiple stories of AI, I'm sorry, super intelligence finding a life-saving已经有很多关于AI的故事了,对不起,超级智能找到救生机
296drug that can be used for a disease that it wasn't understood that it could safely treat.药物,可以用于一种疾病, 它不理解,它可以安全治疗。
297So it's saving lives, I think it's having profound impacts on education, but maybe each因此,它拯救了生命, 我认为它对教育有深远的影响, 但也许每个
298of you could talk.你可以说话。
299For ordinary Americans, what's super intelligence doing today and what's it going to be able对于普通美国人来说 超级智能今天在做什么 还能做什么
300to do in a year?一年后做吗?
301I'm an ordinary American and I use Claude to help me do research and instead of giving我是一个普通的美国人,我利用克劳德 帮我进行研究,而不是给
302me just answers and most of my research, maybe there's comparative research that I'm doing我只是回答和大部分的研究, 也许有比较研究,我正在做
303and there's two or three different approaches to something and I wanted to answer a list有两三个不同的方法处理一些事情 我想回答一个清单
304of different questions and compare and contrast rates of growth or rates of change or whatever比较和对比的增长率或变化率
305it is.没错
306And so I describe literally every single question I have.所以我描述每个问题
307And nothing gives me more joy and I ask it to create a nice report and plot it out.没有什么能让我更高兴的了 我要求它制作一份好的报告 并把它写出来
308Sometimes it's a pie chart, sometimes it's a bar graph, and I just hit enter.有时它是一个馅饼图, 有时它是一个条形图, 我刚刚点击输入。
309And nothing gives me more joy than just watching it go.没有什么能让我更快乐的了 只是看着它去。
310And then it comes back and it creates a beautiful report.然后它又回来了,创造了一个美丽的报告。
311And then instead of researching all these different topics for four, six, eight hours,而不是研究所有这些不同的话题 4,6,8小时,
312which back in the old days I would on a weekend learn something new, it goes off and creates回到昔日,我会在周末学习一些新东西, 它会爆炸并创造
313me this really, really beautiful final report in about three minutes and it's all condensed3分钟后,我收到了一份非常,非常漂亮的最终报告, 报告都凝结了
314and now you're getting smarter faster.现在你越来越聪明了
315Love it.喜欢它。
316What about for you?你怎么样?
317How are you seeing super intelligence helping ordinary Americans?你怎么看到超智能帮助普通美国人?
318What do you think it'll do in a year or two?一两年后会怎么样?
319Maybe a year or two, take a year or two from now.也许一两年 以后再过一两年
320Yeah, well I think it's helping people organize their lives and do better at their jobs.是的,我想它帮助人们 组织他们的生活 并做更好的工作。
321So I think it really will become essential if it isn't already for people to use AI for所以,我认为它真的会 变得至关重要 如果它不是 已经为人们使用AI
322their professional lives certainly and in their private lives.他们的职业生活和私人生活。
323So AI is just an incredibly helpful, useful thing.所以,AI只是 一个令人难以置信的帮助,有用的东西。
324I've heard many anecdotes of AI helping people with medical issues and in many cases where我听过很多关于AI的传闻 帮助人们解决医疗问题 很多情况下
325the doctor was wrong and they submitted their x-rays or MRI to AI and AI got it right.他们把X光片或核磁共振呈给AI AI说得没错
326But for AI they would have died and I've heard many such cases.但对于AI,他们会死 我听说过很多这样的案件。
327And hopefully Opus 5-6 tells Tom, don't take that left, take the right.希望Opus 5 -6告诉Tom,不要左转,右转。
328Hopefully.希望是这样
329I think it's important these super intelligences, they're imbued with the values of their creators我认为这些超级智能很重要, 他们充满了创造者的价值
330and we do have, there are American values that we all share.我们确实有, 有美国人的价值观 我们都共享。
331The First Amendment, free speech, commitment to truth.第一修正案 言论自由 承诺真理
332Can you talk about what each of you are doing to imbue, help make sure that these super你们能说说你们各自在做什么吗?
333intelligences are imbued with the right values?情报中充满了正确的价值观?
334Are we allowed to say anything controversial?我们是否可以说些有争议的话?
335Say something controversial.说些有争议的话
336Okay, so the SI's are tools.好吧,所以SI's工具。
337And the challenge with an SI with values, meaning it has judgment, depending on how和挑战 一个有价值的SI, 这意味着它有判断,取决于如何
338you use that SI, it may judge you and its effectiveness would be affected by that judgment.你使用SI,它可能会判断你,它的有效性会受到该判决的影响.
339And so it's a little bit like a steak knife where if you were served medium well, it cuts所以它有点像牛排刀 在那里,如果你得到 中好,它削减
340perfectly.完美无缺
341But if you were served rare steak and it looks awfully like live meat, somehow it doesn't但如果你吃过稀有牛排 看上去非常像活肉 不知怎么的
342cut.切开。
343And so I think there's a question in my mind yet about how much judgment you really want所以我想我心里有个问题 你究竟想要多少判断
344these tools to have.这些工具需要。
345And so the intentions of the user, obviously I use the knife as an example, but you can很明显我用刀作为例子 但你可以
346think of a whole bunch of other examples.想想其他例子
347The intentions are a little bit different.其意略别.
348Whether you're a defender or an attacker, for example, in cyber security, the defender's无论是卫士还是攻击者 比如网络安全保卫者
349actions could resemble an attacker.行动可能像攻击者。
350And you want the defender, you want this SI to activate on behalf of the defender even你想要维权者,你希望这个SI代表维权者激活甚至
351though it appears to be an aggressive action.虽然这似乎是一种侵略行动。
352Great.不错
353I think we're running up on time, but maybe if you guys could share, you spent a lot of我想我们正赶时间,但也许你们可以分享,你们花了很多钱
354time at the White House.白宫的时候
355Is there anything that you can share with the world about what came out of what was你能和世界分享什么吗?
356evidently a long and productive lunch?明显是长而富有成效的午餐吗?
357We did good.我们做得很好。
358We signed a joint declaration regarding SI safety.我们签署了关于职业安全组织的联合声明。
359And I think that will be published by the White House soon, if it hasn't been already.我认为,如果还没有出版,白宫很快就会出版。
360But we agreed to a number of things that include joint monitoring, board special committees,但我们同意了一些事情 包括联合监测,董事会特别委员会,
361and just generally grading each other's homework, which is a lot better than if people just并且只是一般的分级 对方的功课, 这比人们只是
362grade their own homework for obvious reasons.出于明显的原因,他们自己考了功课。
363It includes everything from rigorous internal controls, well-established methods, well-established它包括从严格的内部控制、既定方法、既定方法、
364processes, very clearly documented intentions of the products that you're building, internal过程,非常清晰地记录了 你正在制造的产品的意图,内部
365controls to make sure that you're delivering on those intentions, internal audit that escalates,控制确保你兑现这些意图, 内部审计升级,
366external audits from a third party, and then industries sharing best practices.由第三方进行外部审计,然后由业界分享最佳做法。
367I thought the declaration has a lot of teeth.我以为宣言有很多牙齿
368I thought it was really well-written, and I think this is a practice that, quite frankly,我觉得写得很好 我想这是个很坦率的做法
369as standards for our industry going forward, every single company ought to embrace.作为我们工业前进的标准,每个公司都应该接受。
370So POTUS pulled it all together.因此,总统把这一切拉在一起。
371He watched over the meeting and was able to bring everybody out, and I thought it was他看着会议 能够把大家带出来 我以为是
372really well-run.运行非常顺利。
373Well, on behalf of all Americans, thank all of you for doing everything you can to make好了,代表所有美国人,感谢你们所有人 尽你所能,使
374the future as awesome and optimistic for Americans as you can, and you are, so thank you.未来对美国人来说是美好的和乐观的,你也是,所以谢谢你。
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