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0:00I've always said I believed he would come back.我一直说我相信他会回来的
0:02So I'm not surprised at that.所以我对此并不感到惊讶.
0:03What has caught me off guard as many of us,是什么让我失去警惕 我们很多人,
0:06because a lot of us are away, we're on holiday,因为我们很多人都不在了 我们在度假
0:09you know, because it's that time of year.你知道,因为今年是那个时候。
0:10It's a strange time to suddenly get this big announcement.忽然得此大宣说.
0:13I think it's, that's what's caught us off guard at this speed我认为,这就是是什么 把我们挡在这种速度
0:18is how quick, I mean, he's arriving apparently next week我的意思是 他下周会来
0:21if not already here, you know?如果还没有在这里,你知道吗?
0:23That's extraordinary.这是非凡的。
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1I've always said I believed he would come back.我一直说我相信他会回来的
2So I'm not surprised at that.所以我对此并不感到惊讶.
3What has caught me off guard as many of us,是什么让我失去警惕 我们很多人,
4because a lot of us are away, we're on holiday,因为我们很多人都不在了 我们在度假
5you know, because it's that time of year.你知道,因为今年是那个时候。
6It's a strange time to suddenly get this big announcement.忽然得此大宣说.
7I think it's, that's what's caught us off guard at this speed我认为,这就是是什么 把我们挡在这种速度
8is how quick, I mean, he's arriving apparently next week我的意思是 他下周会来
9if not already here, you know?如果还没有在这里,你知道吗?
10That's extraordinary.这是非凡的。
11That's what's really catching him off guard.这才是真正让他失去警惕的原因.
12It hasn't worked for them, basically, in the States.基本上,在美国,这对他们没有用。
13That's one view, is that they've gone to a point一种观点是,他们已经到了一个点
14and they feel they can go no further.他们觉得自己走不远了
15And so the only option is to return home.所以唯一的选择就是回家
16That's what I think the main, kind of,这就是我想的主要, 那种,
17one of the main reasons is.其中一个主要原因是:
18The other reason is that it's very much另一个原因是,这是非常
19kind of getting discussed.那种得到讨论。
20Is it because he wants to be near his father是因为他想靠近父亲吗?
21for obvious reasons?有明显的原因吗?
22With everything we've been on with the father,我们一直和父亲在一起
23you're wondering, does he want to be near his dad, basically?你想知道,他是不是想 接近他的父亲,基本上?
24I know there's lots of speculation我知道有很多猜测
25and I'm not jumping in on that.我不会跳进去的
26All I'm saying is that when you have a loved one,我想说的是 当你有一个爱人
27a loved one's looking through different things一个爱人看 不同的东西
28to do with health and all sorts of other things,与健康和其他各种事情,
29it makes you wonder if he wants to be,这让你怀疑他是否愿意
30he just wants to be closer.他只是想更亲近
31And he's made some extraordinary statements about that.他对此发表了一些非凡的言论.
32And obviously that's where we're all drawing conclusions,很明显,这就是我们的结论,
33which I don't think, I just think he just,我不认为,我只是认为他只是,
34he was, can I say he was a daddy's boy?他是,我可以说他是一个爸爸的孩子?
35He was very much a daddy's boy.他是一个非常 一个爸爸的儿子。
36And that was very clear to see when I was there.我当时在场的时候就很清楚了
37The relationship, everyone goes on about关系,大家都在继续
38William and the King's relationship.威廉和国王的关系.
39Harry had an extraordinary relationship with his dad,哈利和他爸爸的关系很特别
40a very close relationship.一个非常密切的关系。
41I think one part will be obviously Harpy from,我想其中一部分显然是哈比的
42let's face it, he's going to get to see his grandkids.面对现实吧,他会见到他的孙子们
43That's really important to him.这对他很重要
44Family's important in regards to the late queen.家人对已故皇后很重要
45I think the other side, it's going to be really difficult我想另一边会很困难的
46because you've got, when you've got the advisors因为你有,当你有顾问
47who are probably saying, to be careful,他们可能说, 要小心,
48let's face it with everything that's happened.面对现实吧
49And he has to listen to them他必须听他们的话
50because they're there to try and keep them right.因为他们在那里 试图保持他们的权利。
51You've got his other son,你有他的另一个儿子,
52who will probably be not over the moon with this news at all.他可能不会在月球上看到这个消息
53And will probably be extremely worried可能会非常担心
54about the reasoning behind it关于它背后的推理
55or if there's other motives behind it.或者如果背后还有其他动机
56And then you've also got the King,然后,你还有国王,
57probably also think him want to spend time with them可能还以为他想和他们在一起
58and all this, but there's again,这一切,但还有,
59rumors about TV shows and all sorts going on.关于电视节目的传闻 和各种各样的事情。
60Does that mean they're going to be doing a TV show这是否意味着他们要做电视剧?
61and then you're going to go and see his dad然后你要去见他爸爸
62and they're going to sit down and talk about that conversation?他们要坐下来谈谈谈话吗?
63That is a reality.这是事实。
64Now that is something that they will all be thinking.现在,这是他们都会想到的。
65So I think, as I said, I think he'd be in two minds about it.所以我想,正如我所说,我想他会有两种想法。
66So don't get me wrong.所以别误会
67I'm not saying he's not happy about it,我不是说他不高兴,
68but I think there'll definitely be caution.但我认为绝对会谨慎
69Absolutely be caution.绝对要小心
70How would you think William will be feeling你觉得威廉会怎么想?
71having heard this news?听说这个消息了吗?
72Okay, one word, furious.好吧,一个字,愤怒。
73That's what I honestly believe.и痷獺
74Absolutely think he will be furious.绝对认为他会生气
75I think because we've seen all the videos,我认为因为我们看过所有的视频
76the clips of Harry going through his new life in the States,哈利在美国的新生活
77doing that division.做那个部门。
78He said some extraordinary things about the family.他说了一些关于这个家庭的不寻常的事情.
79And William is somebody that when you break trust,威廉是一个人 当你打破信任,
80you go beyond a certain point, there's no coming back.你超越了某一点, 没有回来。
81So William would have said,所以威廉会说,
82do you know what, he's five, 6,000 miles away.你知道吗,他离这里五,六千英里远
83It's not my problem.这不是我的问题。
84He's in another country.彼国中.
85Suddenly he's back on the doorstep.突然他又回到门口了
86Not only the doorstep, again, going by reports,不仅门阶, 再一次,通过报告,
87he's going to be in the area.他会在附近
88He's going to be next to daddy's house kind of thing.他会在爸爸家旁边
89So that's obviously what they're saying.所以这显然是他们所说的。
90So that will be on his mind.所以,这将是在他的脑海里。
91And I just don't think he's going to be happy我只是觉得他不会快乐
92about the situation at all.说到情况
93I really don't.我真的没有。
94And what was the relationship between William and Harry?威廉和哈利是什么关系?
95That's the sad bit.这是可悲的一点。
96Absolutely.当然
97I mean, it was very much big brother, little brother.我的意思是,这是非常大的兄弟,小兄弟。
98One used to keep Harry right.一个用来保持哈里的权利。
99And Harry was always a bit more of a practical joker.而哈利总是有点 更实用的笑话。
100The bit of the, can I say the,一点点,我可以说,
101let's face it, the loose cannon, but in a nice way.让我们面对它,松散的大炮, 但以很好的方式。
102Did his thing and did what he want and had a great time.做了他的事,做了他想要的 并有一个伟大的时间。
103And his brother was with him.他的弟弟也和他在一起 他的弟弟和他在一起
104He supported him.他支持过他
105And sometimes he would bring him back down to ground有时候他会把他带回地面
106because that's what the bigger brother does.因为大哥哥就是这么干的
107But the relationship between them was really good.但他们之间的关系真的很好。
108And can I just say between the father and stepmother,我可以说父亲和继母之间,
109despite what's been said,尽管有人这么说
110as Queen Elizabeth once said,正如伊丽莎白女王曾经说过的
111recollections do vary or differ.回忆确实不同或不同。
112And that's absolutely true because my memory这绝对是真的 因为我的记忆
113of that family was a very close, happy family.那个家庭是一个非常亲密,快乐的家庭。
114Harry's memory.哈利的记忆.
115But then that's, so I think my version is true但我认为我的版本是真的
116because if it was that bad, as he said,因为,如果它是那么糟糕, 正如他说,
117why are you becoming back?你为什么回来?
118And why would you be trying to patch things up?那你为什么要修补呢?
119Why would you now openly say he wants to fix things你为什么现在公开说他想修好东西
120with his family if it was really that bad?如果真的有那么糟糕的话 他的家人呢?
121You wouldn't.你不会的。
122Megan, how do you think she will adapt梅根,你认为她会怎样适应
123to being back in the UK?回到英国?
124I think she'll hate it.我觉得她会讨厌的
125I honestly, because she didn't like,我说实话 因为她不喜欢
126from what we understand and from the way it's come across,从我们的理解 和它的方式,
127she didn't like,她不喜欢,
128I'm not saying she doesn't like visiting the UK.我不是说她不喜欢去英国
129I don't think she liked, let's face it,我觉得她不喜欢 面对现实吧
130the many reasons, the weather,许多原因,天气,
131maybe the cultural differences.也许文化差异。
132She's close to her mother, who's obviously an issue.她和她的母亲很亲近,她显然是一个问题.
133Her mum's gonna come over, her mum's back home.她妈妈会过来的 她妈妈回来了
134So I think it's gonna be a really difficult move for Megan.所以,我认为这将是 一个非常困难的举动对梅根。
135And I'm wondering, do you think Harry gave him the ultimatum?我在想,你觉得哈利给他最后通牒了吗?
136Let's just say, going by the reports,这么说吧,通过报告
137that Harry wants to be near his father哈利想靠近他父亲
138because of what's going on in his father's life.因其父生之事.
139And maybe Harry suddenly woke up one morning and thought,也许哈利突然醒来 有一天早上想
140I need to be with my dad in this part of his life.我需要和我爸一起度过他的生活
141I need to be with him.我得陪着他
142And for all we know, and this is complete me guessing,据我们所知,我完全猜到了,
143he could have turned around to Megan他本可以转身给梅根
144and gave her the ultimatum, come with me or stay.并给她最后通牒, 跟我来或留下来。
145Because I don't think Harry was gonna stay.因为我不认为哈利会留下来
146I think Harry was gonna leave.我想哈利会离开的
147I think it was as simple as that.我觉得就这么简单
148I think Catherine would also be concerned我想凯瑟琳也会担心的
149about the situation.关于情况。
150I do think she'd be concerned.我觉得她会很担心
151I don't think she'll be jumping around with joy at the news.我觉得她不会在新闻里欣喜若狂
152I think she's a very diplomatic lady.我觉得她是一个非常外交的女士。
153I think what she'll be doing is trying to be peacemaker我想她现在要做的就是做一个和平缔造者
154and trying to look at the positives out of the situation并试图从局势中看到积极因素
155and trying to obviously, I'm guessing,很明显,我想,
156reassure William in the whole situation.让威廉放心
157I think she's the one that would be the peacemaker我觉得她就是那个 做和平缔造者的人
158between both of the families.两个家庭之间
159I've always said that with Christmases and birthdays我总是说 圣诞节和生日
160of cars and message exchange,汽车和信息交换,
161it'll be between the ladies, believe it or not.它会是在女士们之间, 相信与否。
162That's what I think, despite what's been said.这就是我的想法,尽管有人说过。
163I think Kate's very gracious.我觉得凯特很慷慨
164She's got such a nice way about it.她有这么好的方式。
165She's not malicious or anything.她不是恶意的
166So I think she would do everything.所以我觉得她会做任何事
167She'll rise above it, which is Rosalind, she'll rise above it.她会爬上它,这是罗莎琳德, 她会爬上它。
168And I think she will, if there's any communication,我想她会的 如果有任何沟通
169I think she'll be behind it.我想她会幕后黑手的
170Not saying that she's jumping around, as I said, about it.不是说她正像我说的那样跳来跳去
171I think she'll just be very realistic about it我觉得她会很现实的
172and think this is how it's gonna be.以为事情是这样的
173We need to put the best foot forward我们需要把最好的脚向前
174and try to make it work.试着让它发挥作用。
175Time is a healer.时间是治疗者。
176That's a fact, absolute fact.这是事实,绝对事实。
177Even look at the Duke of Windsor.乃至观视温莎公爵.
178Obviously, when he left the country,很明显,当他出国时,
179he never came back, actually,他再也没有回来,其实,
180but Queen Elizabeth still allowed him但伊丽莎白女王还是允许他
181to have a ceremonial funeral, not a state funeral,举行葬礼 而不是国葬
182but a ceremonial funeral,惟有一种仪式,
183which was obviously through her approval.这显然是通过她的认可。
184Despite everything that happened,尽管发生了一切
185the Queen Mother was there.太后在场
186You saw them with Waller Simpson.你看到他们和沃勒·辛普森在一起
187The reason I'm saying this, we know how awful that was我之所以这么说 我们知道那有多可怕
188and how difficult, we don't personally,多么困难,我们不个人,
189but we've heard about it.但我们听说了
190And what I'm trying to say is time absolutely changes things.我想说的是 时间会改变一切
191Look at Queen Camilla.看看卡米拉王后的样子
192The people, there's a general like for Camilla night.百姓,有将军像为卡米拉之夜.
193So time does change things.所以时间会改变一切
194So I think it's totally possible,所以我认为这是完全可能的,
195but I don't know if we could ever go back to how it was.但是我不知道我们能不能回到过去
196Actually, I don't know.其实,我不知道。
197I think it's possible.我认为这有可能。
198Of course it's possible.当然可以
199I just think there's a lot to get through我只是觉得有很多事情要做
200between here and the future.从这里到未来
201There's a lot to get through.通达无量.
202Who knows?谁知道呢?
203Maybe the King will help bring the brothers together.也许国王会帮助兄弟们走到一起
204Maybe he will facilitate dinners or lunches也许他会为晚餐或午餐提供便利
205or get-togethers and insist that they're all together.或者聚集在一起 坚持他们在一起
206And it's almost banging on one's heads together.它几乎是敲在一个人的头在一起。
207Not that it's anyone, I'm not trying to say it's,我不是想说这是...
208you can understand why Wem and Catherine你可以理解为什么温和凯瑟琳
209probably are not over the moon about可能不会在月球上空
210being in a room with them and Queen Camilla.和卡米拉女王在一间房间里
211But Queen Camilla has done it.但卡米拉女王已经做到了
212She was there at the High Grove meeting.她当时在高格罗夫会议上
213She turned up.她来了
214They are able to rise above it,他们能超越它,
215which is what they're very good at.这是他们非常擅长的。
216And what do you think Harry needs to do你觉得哈利需要做什么?
217from his side to build relations again?从他身边再建立关系?
218Do nothing.什么都别做。
219And in the nicest way, no television,以最好的方式,没有电视,
220no tell-all books, no tell-all documentaries.没有全告全书, 没有全告全纪录片。
221If he goes along the line of working on his charities,如果他在慈善机构工作的话
222supporting his charities, doing work around that,支持他的慈善机构, 工作围绕,
223fair enough, he's got to work.公平,他必须工作。
224What's he gonna do?他该怎么办?
225Go and work in the local test school.去当地的测试学校工作吧
226He's got to have some sort of a role in a job.他一定有某种 工作的角色。
227He's a public figure.现为大众人物.
228And as such, he can use that for good因此,他可以永远利用它
229通过他的Invictus游戏。
230So I think if they focus on that,所以我认为如果他们专注于这一点,
231and it's almost, I've always called them royal celebrities.几乎,我一直叫他们皇家名人
232Let's face it, that's what they are.面对现实吧,他们就是这样
233The royal are all in everything they do,皇室在他们所做的一切,
234the way, of course they are,当然了
235even though they're non-working royals.虽无勤王者.
236So I think they could build up something quite unique.因此,我认为他们可以建立 一些相当独特的东西。
237I think they could get back into favour.我想他们可以重新得到帮助。
238Doesn't mean to say they'll suddenly be given royal duties,并不是说他们会突然被授予王室职责
239but we might then get to see them with the family again.但是我们也许可以再和家人见面
240So I think they could build up quite a successful,所以我认为他们可以 建立相当成功的,
241and a brand.和一个品牌。
242Everyone goes on about all that's wrong about the brand.每个人都在谈论品牌的错误
243Let's face it, King Charles has a brand.面对现实吧,查尔斯国王有一个品牌.
244Royal has a brand, whether they like it or not,Royal有一个品牌,不管他们喜欢与否,
245it is a brand.这是一个品牌。
246It's a massive brand.这是一个巨大的品牌。
247It's probably one of the biggest brands on the planet.这可能是地球上最大的品牌之一.
248And Harry and Meghan are part of that.哈利和梅根也参与其中
249And so I don't have personally any issue with them所以我没有个人问题
250doing what they're doing,做他们在做什么,
251as long as it's done in the right way.只要用正确的方式进行
252Look, it's completely possible你看,这是完全可能的
253that she wants to go back into acting.她想继续演戏
254Maybe that's not a bad thing.也许这不是一件坏事。
255Maybe she wants to carry on in that role.也许她想继续这个角色。
256And I don't think the royal family would have an issue我觉得皇室不会有什么问题
257with that, because it's a good job,这么说吧 因为这工作不错
258but it's something she was good at.但这是她擅长的东西。
259I think she was good at it.我觉得她很擅长
260If I had to focus on that, focus on his charity,如果我不得不专注于这一点, 专注于他的慈善事业,
261and then do the whole thing together,然后一起做这一切,
262I think that's what would be acceptable to the royal family.我想这是王室可以接受的
263I really do.我真的喜欢
264I think they think, you know what?我认为他们认为,你知道吗?
265They're both doing their own thing.他们都在做他们自己的事情。
266She's gone back into acting.她又开始演戏了
267He's focusing on his charity and Victor's games.他专注于他的慈善和维克多的游戏.
268That's the way they could slowly maybe那样他们才能慢慢来
269build up favor again, very slowly.慢慢来,慢慢来
270But I've always said, it's the actions.但我总是说,这是行动。
271They can say all this.他们可以这么说
272They can give it the talk.他们可以给它说话。
273They can say this.他们可以这么说。
274They can say what they want.他们可以说他们想要的。
275It's what they do in their actions这是他们的行为
276is what the royal family and their advisors皇室及其顾问
277As we'll be watching.如是观察.
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