【16集】英音精选 # 牛津大学辩论社，宗教在公共生活中，有
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P1 · 【16集】英音精选 # 牛津大学辩论社，宗教在公共生活中，有没有地位？ p01 1. 1. Frankie Wright(1_8) (1) (P1)
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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:00 | The motion before the House tonight is this House believes that religion has no place | 今晚众议院的动议是本议院认为宗教没有立足之地 |
| 0:12 | in public life and I would like to Frankie Wright, Secretary's Committee, Trinity College | 和我要弗兰基·赖特,三一学院秘书委员会 |
| 0:17 | to open the case for the proposition. | 为这个提议打开理由。 |
| 0:28 | Good evening ladies and gentlemen and thank you Madam President for the opportunity to | 晚上好,女士们,先生们,谢谢您 主席女士,给我机会 |
| 0:32 | speak in this historic chamber. | 在这个历史性的会议厅发言。 |
| 0:35 | This society is so unique, from the incredible speakers it has hosted, its history making | 这个社会是如此独特, 从它所接待的不可思议的演讲者, 和它的历史创造。 |
| 0:40 | debates and of course toxic fuelled elections. | 辩论,当然还有有毒的选举。 |
| 0:46 | Indeed there are a few things more damaging, more toxic or more divisive than the unity | 确实有几件事比团结更有害、更有毒或更分裂 |
| 0:51 | of student politics and a student speaking and debating society, except perhaps the topic | 学生政治 和学生演讲和辩论的社会, 除了这个话题 |
| 0:57 | of the debate this evening, the fusion of religion and public life. | 今晚的辩论, 宗教和公共生活的融合。 |
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| 1 | The motion before the House tonight is this House believes that religion has no place | 今晚众议院的动议是本议院认为宗教没有立足之地 |
| 2 | in public life and I would like to Frankie Wright, Secretary's Committee, Trinity College | 和我要弗兰基·赖特,三一学院秘书委员会 |
| 3 | to open the case for the proposition. | 为这个提议打开理由。 |
| 4 | Good evening ladies and gentlemen and thank you Madam President for the opportunity to | 晚上好,女士们,先生们,谢谢您 主席女士,给我机会 |
| 5 | speak in this historic chamber. | 在这个历史性的会议厅发言。 |
| 6 | This society is so unique, from the incredible speakers it has hosted, its history making | 这个社会是如此独特, 从它所接待的不可思议的演讲者, 和它的历史创造。 |
| 7 | debates and of course toxic fuelled elections. | 辩论,当然还有有毒的选举。 |
| 8 | Indeed there are a few things more damaging, more toxic or more divisive than the unity | 确实有几件事比团结更有害、更有毒或更分裂 |
| 9 | of student politics and a student speaking and debating society, except perhaps the topic | 学生政治 和学生演讲和辩论的社会, 除了这个话题 |
| 10 | of the debate this evening, the fusion of religion and public life. | 今晚的辩论, 宗教和公共生活的融合。 |
| 11 | While my fellow proposition speakers will seek to dismantle the fundamental basis for | 我的同僚提议发言者将努力打破基本基础。 |
| 12 | both belief in God and support of religion and will do so eloquently, I have no such | 既相信上帝,又支持宗教 并且会雄辩地这样做,我没有这样的 |
| 13 | lofty goals. | 崇高的目标。 |
| 14 | My speech will address the harm that religion can cause when it is fused with public life. | 我的发言将谈到宗教与公共生活结合时可能造成的伤害。 |
| 15 | Religion whether it is constitutionally enshrined and forms a major part of a government or | 宗教,无论它是宪法赋予的并构成政府的主要部分,或 |
| 16 | whether it simply dominates public discourse is always damaging and thus should be removed. | 是否仅仅支配公共言论总是有害的,因此应当删除。 |
| 17 | The first point I will make is in regards to the imposition of a moral framework that | 我要谈的第一点是关于强加一个道德框架的问题。 |
| 18 | religion demands and how while on a personal level it may be beneficial, on a societal | 宗教要求,在个人层面如何对一个社会 |
| 19 | level it is extremely damaging. | 它具有极大的破坏力。 |
| 20 | Secondly that the us versus them mentality that religion encourages is divisive and exactly | 第二,我们和他们的心态 宗教鼓励是分裂的,准确的 |
| 21 | the sort of thing we should be avoiding in modern politics. | 在现代政治中我们应该避免的 |
| 22 | And finally that the increasingly blurred line between religion and public life is draining | 最后,宗教和公共生活之间日益模糊的界限正在枯竭 |
| 23 | society, it's holding back societal progress and if we were to sever religious ties to | 它阻碍着社会进步 如果我们要切断宗教联系 |
| 24 | public life we could advance much faster. | 我们可以更快地推进公共生活。 |
| 25 | But before I begin it falls to me to introduce the speakers currently lining the opposition | 但在我开始之前,由我来介绍 反对派的发言人 |
| 26 | benches just waiting to leap to the defence of these archaic institutions. | 长椅正等着跳跃到这些古老的机构的防御。 |
| 27 | The first opposition speaker tonight is one Adam Shuri, a PPE student from Balliol College, | 今晚的第一位反对派演讲者是一位来自巴利奥尔学院的PPE学生亚当·舒里. |
| 28 | a fellow member of the Secretary's Committee and a dear friend. | 秘书委员会的一位同事和一位亲爱的朋友。 |
| 29 | That wasn't sarcasm. | 这不是讽刺 |
| 30 | It came at no surprise to me when I heard that Mr Shuri would be debating for the opposition | 听说舒里先生在为反对派辩论,我毫不奇怪 |
| 31 | tonight, given that as a former pupil of Eton College he feels right at home defending outdated | 今晚,鉴于他以前是伊顿学院的学生 他觉得自己在家为过时辩护 |
| 32 | concepts and corrupt institutions. | 概念和腐败机构。 |
| 33 | In addition I imagine Mr Shuri feels a degree of metaphorical equivalence with this motion | 此外,我想舒里先生觉得 与这个运动有点比喻 |
| 34 | tonight. | 今晚见 |
| 35 | Religion is incompatible with public life in the same way Mr Shuri is incompatible with | 宗教与公共生活不相容,正如舒里先生与 |
| 36 | success in union elections. | 在工会选举中取得成功。 |
| 37 | In addition I do hope he has more success in convincing us that we should not abandon | 此外,我希望他能更成功地说服我们不要放弃 |
| 38 | the outdated institutions of religion than he did convincing the presidential candidate | 已经过时的宗教机构 比他说服总统候选人 |
| 39 | that she should slate him for standing elections this term. | 她应该将他列入竞选名单 |
| 40 | The second opposition speaker tonight is Professor Richard Swinburne, a renowned author, defender | 今晚的第二位反对者是Richard Swinbune教授 著名作家 辩护人 |
| 41 | of the supportive relationship between faith and reason and an Emeritus Professor of Philosophy | 信仰和理性与荣誉哲学教授之间的支持关系 |
| 42 | here at Oxford. | 在牛津大学 |
| 43 | As it happens, this is also the third time Mr Swinburne has addressed this very chamber | 这也是斯温伯恩先生第三次在本会议厅发言 |
| 44 | and it would appear that he continues to make the same arguments again and again. | 似乎他不断提出同样的论点。 |
| 45 | Perhaps he would have more luck if he were to include some props in his speech. | 也许如果他在演讲中包括一些道具的话,他会更幸运. |
| 46 | I hear a burning bush can be particularly effective. | 我听说燃烧的灌木特别有效 |
| 47 | Some of you not up to date on your Old Testament stories there, that's why that's funny. | 你们中有些人对《旧约》里的故事 不太了解 所以才有趣 |
| 48 | The third opposition speaker tonight is Miss Jane Ozan. | 今晚的第三位反对派发言人是简·奥赞小姐. |
| 49 | She's a former member of the Archbishop's Council, the executive body of the Church | 她以前是大主教理事会的成员 教会的执行机构 |
| 50 | of England, and now campaigns for gay equality within the Church of England. | 现在英国教会内部的同性恋平等运动。 |
| 51 | Her work is nothing short of history-defining. | 她的作品完全没有历史意义 |
| 52 | Miss Ozan is also a graduate of St John's College, Cambridge and for that she has my | 奥赞小姐也是剑桥圣约翰学院的毕业生 她有我的 |
| 53 | sincerest apologies and we are delighted to welcome her for the first time to a truly | 最真诚的道歉,我们高兴地欢迎她首次来到一个真正的世界。 |
| 54 | world-leading university. | 世界领先大学. |
| 55 | The fourth and final speaker tonight is Mr Simon Van Totem, a member of the Oxford Union's | 今晚第四位也是最后一位演讲者是 Simon Van Totem先生,他是牛津大学联盟的成员 |
| 56 | Standing Committee and a PPE student from Merton College. | 常委和默顿学院的一名个人防护设备学生。 |
| 57 | Simon is a respected member of the Standing Committee and also a self-professed agnostic. | 西蒙是常务委员会中受人尊敬的委员,同时也是自责的不可知论者. |
| 58 | As we all know, agnostic is just another word for poor man's atheist. | 我们都知道,不可知论只是穷人无神论者的另一个词. |
| 59 | So I invite Simon to join us on proposition side and debate for the side you truly believe | 所以我邀请西蒙加入我们 站在你真正相信的一边 展开辩论 |
| 60 | in. | 进去 |
| 61 | Madam President, these are your guests and they are most welcome. | 主席女士,这是你的客人,非常欢迎。 |
| 62 | Now for my first point regarding the imposition of a moral framework. | 现在我要谈的关于强加道德框架的第一点。 |
| 63 | Religion inherently commands that its followers obey an often highly restrictive moral framework. | 宗教本身就要求其信徒遵守一个往往高度限制性的道德框架。 |
| 64 | It judges that some actions are right and others wrong based on religious teaching and ancient | 它判断一些行为是正确的, 另一些错误基于宗教教义和古老的 |
| 65 | texts. | 发文。 |
| 66 | On a personal level, this is your decision. | 就个人而言,这是你的决定。 |
| 67 | You can choose to follow a religious lifestyle because of your personal faith and we all | 你可以选择遵循一种宗教生活方式 因为你的个人信仰,我们都是 |
| 68 | accept this. | 接受这个。 |
| 69 | No one can prevent you from doing so from choosing a lifestyle that you believe brings | 没有人能阻止你这样做 选择一种你认为会带来的生活方式 |
| 70 | you closer to your God. | 你离你的上帝更近一点 |
| 71 | But the key aspect of this is the deeply personal nature of religion. | 但这一点的关键是宗教的深刻个人性质。 |
| 72 | Issues arise when your beliefs stray into public life, when we start forcing others | 当你的信仰迷失在公共生活中, 当我们开始强迫别人的时候,就会产生问题。 |
| 73 | to conform to our moral standards and it often has disastrous results. | 符合我们的道德标准,往往产生灾难性后果。 |
| 74 | And religion by its very nature has this effect, attempting to convert people who do not agree | 宗教本身就具有这种作用 试图改变不同意的人 |
| 75 | with its moral framework and condemning those who continue to disagree with them. | 谴责那些继续不同意它们的人。 |
| 76 | By what authority do you claim to force others to abide by your world view? | 你凭什么声称强迫别人遵守你的世界观? |
| 77 | Simply because you appeal to divine supremacy does not make it right. | 仅仅因为你呼吁神的至高无上并不能使它正确 |
| 78 | Probably the sheer number of gods and religions across the world are testimony to this. | 也许全世界神和宗教的数量之多就证明了这一点。 |
| 79 | And even still, who is to say that your God is the true God? | 甚至还有谁会说你的神是真神呢? |
| 80 | And even if I accept that assumption, who is to say that your church or you particularly | 即使我接受这个假设 谁会说你的教堂 或者你特别 |
| 81 | have interpreted his, her or their teachings correctly and have formed the correct moral | 正确解释他、她或他们的教导 并形成了正确的道德 |
| 82 | basis? | 依据? |
| 83 | This lack of knowledge, this lack of legitimate truth makes the entire notion of forcing others | 这种缺乏知识,缺乏正当的真理,使得整个概念是强迫他人 |
| 84 | to conform to your world view abhorrent and is precisely why religion should be severed | 并正因为如此 宗教应该被切断 |
| 85 | from public life. | 从公共生活。 |
| 86 | My second argument is that religion is inherently divisive. | 我的第二个论点是,宗教本质上是分裂的。 |
| 87 | By its nature, it separates society into two groups, believers and non-believers. | 由于其性质,它将社会分为两个群体,即信徒和非信徒. |
| 88 | When religion becomes a large part of public life, this division is enhanced and it can | 当宗教成为公共生活的一大部分时,这种分裂就得到加强,并且可以 |
| 89 | quickly turn ugly. | 快变丑了 |
| 90 | With people viewing those who do not share their religious perspective as flawed or failing | 人们把不认同其宗教观点的人视为有缺陷或失败者 |
| 91 | or at risk. | 或处于危险之中。 |
| 92 | Surely we have had enough of divisive politics. | 我们确实已经受够了分裂政治。 |
| 93 | The bigoted, vitriolic anti-immigration rhetoric from Trump and Brexit. | 来自特朗普和布雷克西特的偏执,恶毒的反移民言论. |
| 94 | The vicious personal attacks which so often have become part and parcel of modern politics. | 恶毒的个人攻击常常成为现代政治的组成部分。 |
| 95 | Why are we so keen to accept yet another reason to divide our society? | 为什么我们如此热衷于接受另一个分裂我们社会的理由? |
| 96 | When religion remains private, when your faith is between you and your God, there is | 当宗教保持私人, 当你们的信仰 在你们和上帝之间,有 |
| 97 | limited chance for it to divide. | 它分裂的机会有限。 |
| 98 | As your religious stance is not a matter of public knowledge, no one can know the stance | 由于你的宗教立场不是公众知道的事, 没人知道立场 |
| 99 | you take because you do not wear your religious beliefs on your sleeve. | 是因为你没有在袖子上佩戴你的宗教信仰 |
| 100 | When we keep our faith private, society remains whole and I think we can all agree that that | 当我们保持信仰的私密性时,社会依然完整,我想我们都同意 |
| 101 | is better. | 感觉好多了 |
| 102 | My final argument is certainly a harsher one. | 我最后的论点无疑更严厉。 |
| 103 | One more critical of religion as an institution, however, I will endeavour to keep it grounded | 但是,对于宗教作为一个机构,我还要提出一个批评,但是,我将努力使其扎根。 |
| 104 | in the rules of the motion and focus on the relationship between religion and public life. | 在动议的规则中,并侧重于宗教与公共生活之间的关系。 |
| 105 | There is no doubt that religion has acted as a drain on society. | 毫无疑问,宗教是社会的一个排水沟。 |
| 106 | In the past, religion has opposed the majority of great scientific discoveries and has acted | 过去,宗教反对 大部分伟大的科学发现 并采取行动 |
| 107 | against the furthering of scientific knowledge. | 与促进科学知识背道而驰。 |
| 108 | Galileo himself was imprisoned by the Catholic faith and died under their house arrest. | 伽利略本人被天主教信仰囚禁,在他们的软禁下死去. |
| 109 | And this stance continues in the modern day. | 而这种姿态在现代时代继续. |
| 110 | Stem cell research is opposed by all major religions despite its capacity to save thousands | 尽管Stem细胞研究能够拯救数千人,但所有主要宗教都反对这种研究。 |
| 111 | of lives. | 生命的终结 |
| 112 | And modern religions also stand opposed to blood transfusions and some even oppose vaccinations. | 而现代宗教也反对输血,有些甚至反对接种疫苗. |
| 113 | Not only does religion hold back scientific progress, but it also opposes major social | 宗教不仅阻碍科学进步 而且反对社会上的重大进步 |
| 114 | advancement. | 升级。 |
| 115 | The arguments against gay marriage, which previously proliferated society, were grounded | 反对同性婚姻的论据,以前是社会泛滥的,其依据是: |
| 116 | in conservative religious thought, as were the arguments against abortion. | 以及反对堕胎的论点。 |
| 117 | While some may argue that religion can be a progressive force, this is not the norm | 虽然有些人可能认为宗教可以是一种进步的力量,但这不是常规 |
| 118 | And far too often, religion acts as a deeply conservative force in society. | 而宗教在社会中也经常扮演着深深保守的力量. |
| 119 | However, these issues are truly only a problem when religion is a major part of public life. | 然而,当宗教是公共生活的一个主要部分时,这些问题才是真正的问题。 |
| 120 | When churches command such power and authority that they can dictate policy and regulation, | 当教会掌握了能够支配政策和规章的权力和权威时, |
| 121 | and when legislators are such devout members of their congregation that they cease to legislate | 当立法者是他们的虔诚成员时,他们停止立法 |
| 122 | from reason and begin to legislate from faith. | 从理性开始 从信仰开始立法 |
| 123 | In these cases, religion acts as a barrier to progress and change, preventing science | 在这种情况下,宗教阻碍进步和变革,阻碍科学的发展。 |
| 124 | and society from advancing. | 社会从进步。 |
| 125 | It is for these reasons that faith should be confined to our private lives. | 正是出于这些原因,信仰应仅限于我们的私人生活。 |
| 126 | Let society advance as it should, bringing with it renewed acceptance and discovery. | 让社会按照自己的意愿前进,带来新的接受和发现。 |
| 127 | Allowing us to disregard the inequality and division that religion has previously imposed | 允许我们无视宗教以前强加的不平等和分裂 |
| 128 | upon us. | 追上我们 |
| 129 | Allowing humanity to live in equity, regardless of whom you love, and promoting a healthier, | 允许人类在平等中生活,无论你爱谁,并促进健康, |
| 130 | longer-living populace. | 长寿人口。 |
| 131 | It is therefore evident that religion and public life should ultimately be kept separate. | 因此,宗教和公共生活显然最终应当分开。 |
| 132 | It is not that they are entirely incompatible, but that the consequences of the merging of | 这并不是说它们完全不相容,而是合并的后果。 |
| 133 | the two are simply not worth bearing. | 两者根本不值得承受 |
| 134 | When combined, they create too great a burden for society, and they prevent humanity from | 如果两者结合在一起,它们就会给社会造成太重的负担,并阻碍人类 |
| 135 | achieving its greatest potential. | 发挥最大的潜力。 |
| 136 | Let us finally admit that religion should not be accepted as a part of public life. | 让我们最后承认,宗教不应被接受为公共生活的一部分。 |
| 137 | And move forward with an understanding that one's faith is between them and their God. | 并且以一种理解前进,即一个人的信仰是他们和他们的神之间的. |
| 138 | Ladies and gentlemen, it is for these reasons that I implore you to support this motion | 女士们先生们 正是出于这些原因 我恳求你们支持这个动议 |
| 139 | the door marked A at the end of this evening. | 今晚结束时的门标为A |
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P3 · 【16集】英音精选 # 牛津大学辩论社，宗教在公共生活中，有没有地位？ p03 1. 1. Frankie Wright(1_8) (P3)
字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:00 | The motion before the House tonight is this House believes that religion has no place | 今晚众议院的动议是本议院认为宗教没有立足之地 |
| 0:12 | in public life and I would like to Frankie Wright, Secretary's Committee, Trinity College | 和我要弗兰基·赖特,三一学院秘书委员会 |
| 0:17 | to open the case for the proposition. | 为这个提议打开理由。 |
| 0:28 | Good evening ladies and gentlemen and thank you Madam President for the opportunity to | 晚上好,女士们,先生们,谢谢您 主席女士,给我机会 |
| 0:32 | speak in this historic chamber. | 在这个历史性的会议厅发言。 |
| 0:35 | This society is so unique, from the incredible speakers it has hosted, its history making | 这个社会是如此独特, 从它所接待的不可思议的演讲者, 和它的历史创造。 |
| 0:40 | debates and of course toxic fuelled elections. | 辩论,当然还有有毒的选举。 |
| 0:46 | Indeed there are a few things more damaging, more toxic or more divisive than the unity | 确实有几件事比团结更有害、更有毒或更分裂 |
| 0:51 | of student politics and a student speaking and debating society, except perhaps the topic | 学生政治 和学生演讲和辩论的社会, 除了这个话题 |
| 0:57 | of the debate this evening, the fusion of religion and public life. | 今晚的辩论, 宗教和公共生活的融合。 |
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| 1 | The motion before the House tonight is this House believes that religion has no place | 今晚众议院的动议是本议院认为宗教没有立足之地 |
| 2 | in public life and I would like to Frankie Wright, Secretary's Committee, Trinity College | 和我要弗兰基·赖特,三一学院秘书委员会 |
| 3 | to open the case for the proposition. | 为这个提议打开理由。 |
| 4 | Good evening ladies and gentlemen and thank you Madam President for the opportunity to | 晚上好,女士们,先生们,谢谢您 主席女士,给我机会 |
| 5 | speak in this historic chamber. | 在这个历史性的会议厅发言。 |
| 6 | This society is so unique, from the incredible speakers it has hosted, its history making | 这个社会是如此独特, 从它所接待的不可思议的演讲者, 和它的历史创造。 |
| 7 | debates and of course toxic fuelled elections. | 辩论,当然还有有毒的选举。 |
| 8 | Indeed there are a few things more damaging, more toxic or more divisive than the unity | 确实有几件事比团结更有害、更有毒或更分裂 |
| 9 | of student politics and a student speaking and debating society, except perhaps the topic | 学生政治 和学生演讲和辩论的社会, 除了这个话题 |
| 10 | of the debate this evening, the fusion of religion and public life. | 今晚的辩论, 宗教和公共生活的融合。 |
| 11 | While my fellow proposition speakers will seek to dismantle the fundamental basis for | 我的同僚提议发言者将努力打破基本基础。 |
| 12 | both belief in God and support of religion and will do so eloquently, I have no such | 既相信上帝,又支持宗教 并且会雄辩地这样做,我没有这样的 |
| 13 | lofty goals. | 崇高的目标。 |
| 14 | My speech will address the harm that religion can cause when it is fused with public life. | 我的发言将谈到宗教与公共生活结合时可能造成的伤害。 |
| 15 | Religion whether it is constitutionally enshrined and forms a major part of a government or | 宗教,无论它是宪法赋予的并构成政府的主要部分,或 |
| 16 | whether it simply dominates public discourse is always damaging and thus should be removed. | 是否仅仅支配公共言论总是有害的,因此应当删除。 |
| 17 | The first point I will make is in regards to the imposition of a moral framework that | 我要谈的第一点是关于强加一个道德框架的问题。 |
| 18 | religion demands and how while on a personal level it may be beneficial, on a societal | 宗教要求,在个人层面如何对一个社会 |
| 19 | level it is extremely damaging. | 它具有极大的破坏力。 |
| 20 | Secondly that the us versus them mentality that religion encourages is divisive and exactly | 第二,我们和他们的心态 宗教鼓励是分裂的,准确的 |
| 21 | the sort of thing we should be avoiding in modern politics. | 在现代政治中我们应该避免的 |
| 22 | And finally that the increasingly blurred line between religion and public life is draining | 最后,宗教和公共生活之间日益模糊的界限正在枯竭 |
| 23 | society, it's holding back societal progress and if we were to sever religious ties to | 它阻碍着社会进步 如果我们要切断宗教联系 |
| 24 | public life we could advance much faster. | 我们可以更快地推进公共生活。 |
| 25 | But before I begin it falls to me to introduce the speakers currently lining the opposition | 但在我开始之前,由我来介绍 反对派的发言人 |
| 26 | benches just waiting to leap to the defence of these archaic institutions. | 长椅正等着跳跃到这些古老的机构的防御。 |
| 27 | The first opposition speaker tonight is one Adam Shuri, a PPE student from Balliol College, | 今晚的第一位反对派演讲者是一位来自巴利奥尔学院的PPE学生亚当·舒里. |
| 28 | a fellow member of the Secretary's Committee and a dear friend. | 秘书委员会的一位同事和一位亲爱的朋友。 |
| 29 | That wasn't sarcasm. | 这不是讽刺 |
| 30 | It came at no surprise to me when I heard that Mr Shuri would be debating for the opposition | 听说舒里先生在为反对派辩论,我毫不奇怪 |
| 31 | tonight, given that as a former pupil of Eton College he feels right at home defending outdated | 今晚,鉴于他以前是伊顿学院的学生 他觉得自己在家为过时辩护 |
| 32 | concepts and corrupt institutions. | 概念和腐败机构。 |
| 33 | In addition I imagine Mr Shuri feels a degree of metaphorical equivalence with this motion | 此外,我想舒里先生觉得 与这个运动有点比喻 |
| 34 | tonight. | 今晚见 |
| 35 | Religion is incompatible with public life in the same way Mr Shuri is incompatible with | 宗教与公共生活不相容,正如舒里先生与 |
| 36 | success in union elections. | 在工会选举中取得成功。 |
| 37 | In addition I do hope he has more success in convincing us that we should not abandon | 此外,我希望他能更成功地说服我们不要放弃 |
| 38 | the outdated institutions of religion than he did convincing the presidential candidate | 已经过时的宗教机构 比他说服总统候选人 |
| 39 | that she should slate him for standing elections this term. | 她应该将他列入竞选名单 |
| 40 | The second opposition speaker tonight is Professor Richard Swinburne, a renowned author, defender | 今晚的第二位反对者是Richard Swinbune教授 著名作家 辩护人 |
| 41 | of the supportive relationship between faith and reason and an Emeritus Professor of Philosophy | 信仰和理性与荣誉哲学教授之间的支持关系 |
| 42 | here at Oxford. | 在牛津大学 |
| 43 | As it happens, this is also the third time Mr Swinburne has addressed this very chamber | 这也是斯温伯恩先生第三次在本会议厅发言 |
| 44 | and it would appear that he continues to make the same arguments again and again. | 似乎他不断提出同样的论点。 |
| 45 | Perhaps he would have more luck if he were to include some props in his speech. | 也许如果他在演讲中包括一些道具的话,他会更幸运. |
| 46 | I hear a burning bush can be particularly effective. | 我听说燃烧的灌木特别有效 |
| 47 | Some of you not up to date on your Old Testament stories there, that's why that's funny. | 你们中有些人对《旧约》里的故事 不太了解 所以才有趣 |
| 48 | The third opposition speaker tonight is Miss Jane Ozan. | 今晚的第三位反对派发言人是简·奥赞小姐. |
| 49 | She's a former member of the Archbishop's Council, the executive body of the Church | 她以前是大主教理事会的成员 教会的执行机构 |
| 50 | of England, and now campaigns for gay equality within the Church of England. | 现在英国教会内部的同性恋平等运动。 |
| 51 | Her work is nothing short of history-defining. | 她的作品完全没有历史意义 |
| 52 | Miss Ozan is also a graduate of St John's College, Cambridge and for that she has my | 奥赞小姐也是剑桥圣约翰学院的毕业生 她有我的 |
| 53 | sincerest apologies and we are delighted to welcome her for the first time to a truly | 最真诚的道歉,我们高兴地欢迎她首次来到一个真正的世界。 |
| 54 | world-leading university. | 世界领先大学. |
| 55 | The fourth and final speaker tonight is Mr Simon Van Totem, a member of the Oxford Union's | 今晚第四位也是最后一位演讲者是 Simon Van Totem先生,他是牛津大学联盟的成员 |
| 56 | Standing Committee and a PPE student from Merton College. | 常委和默顿学院的一名个人防护设备学生。 |
| 57 | Simon is a respected member of the Standing Committee and also a self-professed agnostic. | 西蒙是常务委员会中受人尊敬的委员,同时也是自责的不可知论者. |
| 58 | As we all know, agnostic is just another word for poor man's atheist. | 我们都知道,不可知论只是穷人无神论者的另一个词. |
| 59 | So I invite Simon to join us on proposition side and debate for the side you truly believe | 所以我邀请西蒙加入我们 站在你真正相信的一边 展开辩论 |
| 60 | in. | 进去 |
| 61 | Madam President, these are your guests and they are most welcome. | 主席女士,这是你的客人,非常欢迎。 |
| 62 | Now for my first point regarding the imposition of a moral framework. | 现在我要谈的关于强加道德框架的第一点。 |
| 63 | Religion inherently commands that its followers obey an often highly restrictive moral framework. | 宗教本身就要求其信徒遵守一个往往高度限制性的道德框架。 |
| 64 | It judges that some actions are right and others wrong based on religious teaching and ancient | 它判断一些行为是正确的, 另一些错误基于宗教教义和古老的 |
| 65 | texts. | 发文。 |
| 66 | On a personal level, this is your decision. | 就个人而言,这是你的决定。 |
| 67 | You can choose to follow a religious lifestyle because of your personal faith and we all | 你可以选择遵循一种宗教生活方式 因为你的个人信仰,我们都是 |
| 68 | accept this. | 接受这个。 |
| 69 | No one can prevent you from doing so from choosing a lifestyle that you believe brings | 没有人能阻止你这样做 选择一种你认为会带来的生活方式 |
| 70 | you closer to your God. | 你离你的上帝更近一点 |
| 71 | But the key aspect of this is the deeply personal nature of religion. | 但这一点的关键是宗教的深刻个人性质。 |
| 72 | Issues arise when your beliefs stray into public life, when we start forcing others | 当你的信仰迷失在公共生活中, 当我们开始强迫别人的时候,就会产生问题。 |
| 73 | to conform to our moral standards and it often has disastrous results. | 符合我们的道德标准,往往产生灾难性后果。 |
| 74 | And religion by its very nature has this effect, attempting to convert people who do not agree | 宗教本身就具有这种作用 试图改变不同意的人 |
| 75 | with its moral framework and condemning those who continue to disagree with them. | 谴责那些继续不同意它们的人。 |
| 76 | By what authority do you claim to force others to abide by your world view? | 你凭什么声称强迫别人遵守你的世界观? |
| 77 | Simply because you appeal to divine supremacy does not make it right. | 仅仅因为你呼吁神的至高无上并不能使它正确 |
| 78 | Probably the sheer number of gods and religions across the world are testimony to this. | 也许全世界神和宗教的数量之多就证明了这一点。 |
| 79 | And even still, who is to say that your God is the true God? | 甚至还有谁会说你的神是真神呢? |
| 80 | And even if I accept that assumption, who is to say that your church or you particularly | 即使我接受这个假设 谁会说你的教堂 或者你特别 |
| 81 | have interpreted his, her or their teachings correctly and have formed the correct moral | 正确解释他、她或他们的教导 并形成了正确的道德 |
| 82 | basis? | 依据? |
| 83 | This lack of knowledge, this lack of legitimate truth makes the entire notion of forcing others | 这种缺乏知识,缺乏正当的真理,使得整个概念是强迫他人 |
| 84 | to conform to your world view abhorrent and is precisely why religion should be severed | 并正因为如此 宗教应该被切断 |
| 85 | from public life. | 从公共生活。 |
| 86 | My second argument is that religion is inherently divisive. | 我的第二个论点是,宗教本质上是分裂的。 |
| 87 | By its nature, it separates society into two groups, believers and non-believers. | 由于其性质,它将社会分为两个群体,即信徒和非信徒. |
| 88 | When religion becomes a large part of public life, this division is enhanced and it can | 当宗教成为公共生活的一大部分时,这种分裂就得到加强,并且可以 |
| 89 | quickly turn ugly. | 快变丑了 |
| 90 | With people viewing those who do not share their religious perspective as flawed or failing | 人们把不认同其宗教观点的人视为有缺陷或失败者 |
| 91 | or at risk. | 或处于危险之中。 |
| 92 | Surely we have had enough of divisive politics. | 我们确实已经受够了分裂政治。 |
| 93 | The bigoted, vitriolic anti-immigration rhetoric from Trump and Brexit. | 来自特朗普和布雷克西特的偏执,恶毒的反移民言论. |
| 94 | The vicious personal attacks which so often have become part and parcel of modern politics. | 恶毒的个人攻击常常成为现代政治的组成部分。 |
| 95 | Why are we so keen to accept yet another reason to divide our society? | 为什么我们如此热衷于接受另一个分裂我们社会的理由? |
| 96 | When religion remains private, when your faith is between you and your God, there is | 当宗教保持私人, 当你们的信仰 在你们和上帝之间,有 |
| 97 | limited chance for it to divide. | 它分裂的机会有限。 |
| 98 | As your religious stance is not a matter of public knowledge, no one can know the stance | 由于你的宗教立场不是公众知道的事, 没人知道立场 |
| 99 | you take because you do not wear your religious beliefs on your sleeve. | 是因为你没有在袖子上佩戴你的宗教信仰 |
| 100 | When we keep our faith private, society remains whole and I think we can all agree that that | 当我们保持信仰的私密性时,社会依然完整,我想我们都同意 |
| 101 | is better. | 感觉好多了 |
| 102 | My final argument is certainly a harsher one. | 我最后的论点无疑更严厉。 |
| 103 | One more critical of religion as an institution, however, I will endeavour to keep it grounded | 但是,对于宗教作为一个机构,我还要提出一个批评,但是,我将努力使其扎根。 |
| 104 | in the rules of the motion and focus on the relationship between religion and public life. | 在动议的规则中,并侧重于宗教与公共生活之间的关系。 |
| 105 | There is no doubt that religion has acted as a drain on society. | 毫无疑问,宗教是社会的一个排水沟。 |
| 106 | In the past, religion has opposed the majority of great scientific discoveries and has acted | 过去,宗教反对 大部分伟大的科学发现 并采取行动 |
| 107 | against the furthering of scientific knowledge. | 与促进科学知识背道而驰。 |
| 108 | Galileo himself was imprisoned by the Catholic faith and died under their house arrest. | 伽利略本人被天主教信仰囚禁,在他们的软禁下死去. |
| 109 | And this stance continues in the modern day. | 而这种姿态在现代时代继续. |
| 110 | Stem cell research is opposed by all major religions despite its capacity to save thousands | 尽管Stem细胞研究能够拯救数千人,但所有主要宗教都反对这种研究。 |
| 111 | of lives. | 生命的终结 |
| 112 | And modern religions also stand opposed to blood transfusions and some even oppose vaccinations. | 而现代宗教也反对输血,有些甚至反对接种疫苗. |
| 113 | Not only does religion hold back scientific progress, but it also opposes major social | 宗教不仅阻碍科学进步 而且反对社会上的重大进步 |
| 114 | advancement. | 升级。 |
| 115 | The arguments against gay marriage, which previously proliferated society, were grounded | 反对同性婚姻的论据,以前是社会泛滥的,其依据是: |
| 116 | in conservative religious thought, as were the arguments against abortion. | 以及反对堕胎的论点。 |
| 117 | While some may argue that religion can be a progressive force, this is not the norm | 虽然有些人可能认为宗教可以是一种进步的力量,但这不是常规 |
| 118 | And far too often, religion acts as a deeply conservative force in society. | 而宗教在社会中也经常扮演着深深保守的力量. |
| 119 | However, these issues are truly only a problem when religion is a major part of public life. | 然而,当宗教是公共生活的一个主要部分时,这些问题才是真正的问题。 |
| 120 | When churches command such power and authority that they can dictate policy and regulation, | 当教会掌握了能够支配政策和规章的权力和权威时, |
| 121 | and when legislators are such devout members of their congregation that they cease to legislate | 当立法者是他们的虔诚成员时,他们停止立法 |
| 122 | from reason and begin to legislate from faith. | 从理性开始 从信仰开始立法 |
| 123 | In these cases, religion acts as a barrier to progress and change, preventing science | 在这种情况下,宗教阻碍进步和变革,阻碍科学的发展。 |
| 124 | and society from advancing. | 社会从进步。 |
| 125 | It is for these reasons that faith should be confined to our private lives. | 正是出于这些原因,信仰应仅限于我们的私人生活。 |
| 126 | Let society advance as it should, bringing with it renewed acceptance and discovery. | 让社会按照自己的意愿前进,带来新的接受和发现。 |
| 127 | Allowing us to disregard the inequality and division that religion has previously imposed | 允许我们无视宗教以前强加的不平等和分裂 |
| 128 | upon us. | 追上我们 |
| 129 | Allowing humanity to live in equity, regardless of whom you love, and promoting a healthier, | 允许人类在平等中生活,无论你爱谁,并促进健康, |
| 130 | longer-living populace. | 长寿人口。 |
| 131 | It is therefore evident that religion and public life should ultimately be kept separate. | 因此,宗教和公共生活显然最终应当分开。 |
| 132 | It is not that they are entirely incompatible, but that the consequences of the merging of | 这并不是说它们完全不相容,而是合并的后果。 |
| 133 | the two are simply not worth bearing. | 两者根本不值得承受 |
| 134 | When combined, they create too great a burden for society, and they prevent humanity from | 如果两者结合在一起,它们就会给社会造成太重的负担,并阻碍人类 |
| 135 | achieving its greatest potential. | 发挥最大的潜力。 |
| 136 | Let us finally admit that religion should not be accepted as a part of public life. | 让我们最后承认,宗教不应被接受为公共生活的一部分。 |
| 137 | And move forward with an understanding that one's faith is between them and their God. | 并且以一种理解前进,即一个人的信仰是他们和他们的神之间的. |
| 138 | Ladies and gentlemen, it is for these reasons that I implore you to support this motion | 女士们先生们 正是出于这些原因 我恳求你们支持这个动议 |
| 139 | the door marked A at the end of this evening. | 今晚结束时的门标为A |
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|---|---|---|
| 0:00 | I thank Frankie for his speech, and I now look to Adam Shuri, Secretary's Committee, | 我感谢弗兰基的演讲, 现在我期待亚当舒里,秘书委员会, |
| 0:13 | Belial College),为反对派立案. | |
| 0:22 | Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. | 晚上好 女士们先生们 |
| 0:25 | Thank you, Madam President, for the opportunity to address this Chamber this evening. | 主席女士,感谢你今晚有机会在本会议厅发言。 |
| 0:30 | I'm delighted to be opening the case for the opposition in this momentous debate. | 我很高兴在这场重大辩论中 为反对派开口 |
| 0:35 | I'd also like to thank the Honourable Member of Trinity College for his opening remarks | 我也要感谢三一学院荣誉成员致开幕词。 |
| 0:41 | in this debate. | 在这场辩论中。 |
| 0:42 | What confuses me, however, and I'm sure it also confuses many of you, is what precisely | 但我很迷惑 我相信这也迷惑了你们许多人 |
| 0:48 | the whole proposition bench is arguing for. | 整个提案席都在争论 |
| 0:59 | Their entire case seems to rest precariously on what we take to mean by public life. | 他们的整个案件似乎不可靠地依赖于我们所认为的公共生活的含义。 |
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| 1 | I thank Frankie for his speech, and I now look to Adam Shuri, Secretary's Committee, | 我感谢弗兰基的演讲, 现在我期待亚当舒里,秘书委员会, |
| 2 | Belial College),为反对派立案. | |
| 3 | Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. | 晚上好 女士们先生们 |
| 4 | Thank you, Madam President, for the opportunity to address this Chamber this evening. | 主席女士,感谢你今晚有机会在本会议厅发言。 |
| 5 | I'm delighted to be opening the case for the opposition in this momentous debate. | 我很高兴在这场重大辩论中 为反对派开口 |
| 6 | I'd also like to thank the Honourable Member of Trinity College for his opening remarks | 我也要感谢三一学院荣誉成员致开幕词。 |
| 7 | in this debate. | 在这场辩论中。 |
| 8 | What confuses me, however, and I'm sure it also confuses many of you, is what precisely | 但我很迷惑 我相信这也迷惑了你们许多人 |
| 9 | the whole proposition bench is arguing for. | 整个提案席都在争论 |
| 10 | Their entire case seems to rest precariously on what we take to mean by public life. | 他们的整个案件似乎不可靠地依赖于我们所认为的公共生活的含义。 |
| 11 | Perhaps the proposition will convince you with ease that governments should not be run | 或许这个提议会轻松地说服你,政府不应该运行。 |
| 12 | or influenced by religious figures. | 或受宗教人物影响。 |
| 13 | Or that education should not include any religious element. | 或者教育不应包括任何宗教内容。 |
| 14 | Maybe even they will convince you that state broadcasters should not be allowed to show | 也许他们甚至会说服你 国家广播公司不应该被允许播放 |
| 15 | religious programmes. | 宗教课程。 |
| 16 | As much as they may try to make you forget it, it is of course their burden to convince | 尽管他们可能试图让你忘记它, 当然他们的责任是说服 |
| 17 | you of the entirety of their motion, that religion deserves no place whatsoever in public | 你们在他们的整个运动中,教义是不容任何公开的。 |
| 18 | life. | 活着 |
| 19 | Note then, a general opposition to religious control or to particular instances even of | 请注意,普遍反对宗教控制,甚至反对某些特定情况。 |
| 20 | religion is insufficient. | 宗教是不够的。 |
| 21 | This is not a debate about religious extremism, but you must be convinced that religion deserves | 这不是一场关于宗教极端主义的辩论, 但你必须相信,宗教值得 |
| 22 | absolutely no place in public life to walk through the eye lobby later this evening. | 绝对没有地方在公共生活中 走过眼前厅 今晚晚些时候。 |
| 23 | Should the six billion theists of this world be forced to only discuss their religion in | 如果世界六十亿神学家 被迫只讨论他们的宗教 |
| 24 | private, concealed spaces? | 隐蔽的私人空间? |
| 25 | Should an athlete perhaps be forbidden from saying a prayer before a televised race? | 是否应该禁止运动员在电视赛前祈祷? |
| 26 | Maybe a cross on a necklace or a hijab must now be ruled illegal. | 也许项链上的十字架或头巾 现在必须被裁定为非法 |
| 27 | My honourable friend seems to be able to provide a convincing definition of what religion in | 我尊敬的朋友似乎能够提供 令人信服的定义 宗教在 |
| 28 | public life really is, but if we are to take this absolute perspective, the subjection | 公共生活确实如此,但如果我们要从这个绝对的角度来看待, |
| 29 | under which we would place a large swathe of the population seems entirely unreasonable. | 将大批人口置于这一地位似乎完全不合理。 |
| 30 | I hope to convince you all to join me in voting no this evening, but before I do that it | 我希望今晚能说服你们和我一起投票反对 但在此之前 |
| 31 | forces me to introduce the speakers for the proposition. | 迫使我向大家介绍这个提议。 |
| 32 | You've just heard from the Honourable Member Frankie Wright of Trinity College, a fellow | 你刚刚从三一学院的 法兰基·赖特议员那里听说了,一位研究员 |
| 33 | member of the Secretary's Committee and a good friend, whatever his questionable choice | 秘书委员会成员和一个好朋友,不管他选择什么值得怀疑 |
| 34 | of college. | 在大学。 |
| 35 | Whilst his early education at Catholic school perhaps failed to make an impact, I suspect | 虽然他在天主教学校的早期教育 可能没有起到作用,我怀疑 |
| 36 | he might be inclined to cross the floor and join us if, as well as mass on a Sunday morning, | 他可能倾向于越过地板 加入我们 如果,和弥撒 在星期天早上, |
| 37 | we were to consider portent policy a religious occasion on a Sunday night. | 我们本打算把示意性的政策 视为周日晚上的宗教场合 |
| 38 | In a much less serious chamber before this, the Honourable Member successfully had me | 在此之前,在一个不太严肃的会议厅里,尊敬的成员成功地使我 |
| 39 | expelled on accusation of electoral malpractice. | 以选举渎职罪名被开除。 |
| 40 | With less than a day until nominations close, I hope our run for standing committee goes | 不到一天的提名就要结束 我希望我们竞选常设委员会 |
| 41 | a little more smoothly, Frankie. | 更顺利一点,弗兰基。 |
| 42 | That said, I wish him and his presidential candidates the best of luck, and I hope they | 尽管如此,我祝他和他的总统候选人好运,我希望他们 |
| 43 | can come up with an interesting slate name. | 可以想出一个有趣的名字。 |
| 44 | I certainly couldn't think of one. | 我当然想不出一个 |
| 45 | Peter Atkins教授将支持今晚的动议 | |
| 46 | our own Lincoln College. | 我们自己的林肯学院。 |
| 47 | Professor Atkins is a distinguished supporter of Humanists UK and was the first senior member | 阿特金斯教授是英国人文主义者的杰出支持者,也是首位资深成员. |
| 48 | of the University Secular Society. | 大学世俗学会 |
| 49 | Whilst on a television panel with Richard Dawkins, he was recorded growling at Mr Swimburne, | 在和理查德·道金斯的电视板上 他被录制在Swimbune先生的咆哮 |
| 50 | the member to my left, may you rot in hell, which seems somewhat confusing from a man | 我左边的那个成员 愿你堕入地狱 这似乎有点让人困惑 |
| 51 | who doesn't believe in God. | 谁不相信上帝。 |
| 52 | We can perhaps forgive these minor errors, of course, from a man who dropped out of school | 我们也许可以原谅那些小错误, 当然,一个辍学的人。 |
| 53 | aged 15. | 15岁 |
| 54 | Next up in the proposition is Miss Alvie Smith, an academic at University College Dublin and | 接下来是阿尔维·史密斯小姐 都柏林大学学院的学者 |
| 55 | a key activist in the bid to repeal the constitutional ban on abortion in Ireland. | 争取废除爱尔兰宪法禁止堕胎的关键活动家。 |
| 56 | She was named as one of the times 100 most influential people as a result of her efforts | 由于她的努力,她被命名为百倍最有影响力的人之一 |
| 57 | on this. | 这个 |
| 58 | I'm sure, of course, she feels right at home in the Oxford Union having ran a campaign | 我敢肯定,当然,她觉得 在家在牛津大学 曾经开展竞选活动 |
| 59 | called Together. | 叫做"一起来" |
| 60 | Let's hope she's not impeached any time soon. | 希望她没被弹劾 |
| 61 | Closing the debate for the proposition is Mike Newdow, an experienced ER physician having | 结束辩论的是Mike Newdow, 一位经验丰富的急诊医生 |
| 62 | attended the UCLA School of Medicine. | 就读于加州大学洛杉矶分校医学院。 |
| 63 | Mr Newdow challenged the legality of the Pledge of Allegiance in the Supreme Court, | Newdow先生在最高法院质疑 " 声援承诺 " 的合法性, |
| 64 | losing twice. | 输了两次 |
| 65 | He also attempted unsuccessfully to have the words, in God we trust, removed from American | 他还试图把那些话从美国人身上删除 但没有成功 |
| 66 | currency. | 货币。 |
| 67 | He also lost a lawsuit against Franklin Graham after he invoked God at President Bush's inauguration. | 在布什总统就职典礼上他援引上帝之后,他也败诉富兰克林·格雷厄姆. |
| 68 | And he attempted to do the same at President Obama's inauguration. | 他试图在奥巴马总统就职典礼上也这样做。 |
| 69 | I'm sure he'll feel very comfortable tonight on the proposition bench once again in | 我敢肯定,他今晚会感到非常舒适 再次在提案席上 |
| 70 | being on the losing side. | 站在迷失的一边 |
| 71 | Madam President, these are your speakers, and they are most welcome. | 主席女士,这是你的发言者,非常欢迎。 |
| 72 | Whilst then we could consider religion and public life in the stringent way that I set | 虽然这样,我们可以考虑 宗教和公共生活 严格的方式,我设置 |
| 73 | out earlier, I will be reasonable to the members opposite, to my friends. | 早些时候,我对反面的成员,我的朋友来说,是合情合理的。 |
| 74 | I see religion and public life as something a little like this. | 我认为宗教和公共生活有点类似。 |
| 75 | People should be able to debate religious questions as we are debating them tonight | 我们今晚辩论宗教问题的时候 人们应该能辩论宗教问题 |
| 76 | in this chamber. | 在这个会议厅。 |
| 77 | They should be able to discuss their religion openly. | 他们应该能够公开讨论他们的宗教。 |
| 78 | I would expect religion and religious questions to form some part of political discourse. | 我希望宗教和宗教问题成为政治讨论的一部分。 |
| 79 | And the state should be able to observe religious holidays and celebrations. | 而国家应该能够庆祝宗教节日和庆祝活动. |
| 80 | And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the position that I'm going to try to defend to you this | 女士们,先生们,这就是我要为你们辩护的立场 |
| 81 | evening. | 边 |
| 82 | There are three key arguments I'm going to highlight to you in an attempt to convince | 有三个关键论点,我要向你们强调 试图说服 |
| 83 | you to join me in voting down this motion. | 请你和我一起投票否决这个动议 |
| 84 | Firstly, freedom of religious expression is an inalienable right, and any attempt to encroach | 第一,宗教自由是一项不可剥夺的权利,任何侵犯和侵犯宗教自由的企图 |
| 85 | upon it by a state would be the first step on a road to totalitarianism. | 由一个国家执行将是走向极权主义的第一步。 |
| 86 | Secondly, that the moral framework of the vast majority of religious teachings is generally | 第二,绝大多数宗教教义的道德框架一般是: |
| 87 | a force for good and leads to a better society. | 一种为善的力量,并导致一个更美好的社会。 |
| 88 | And thirdly, ladies and gentlemen, I will attempt to convince you of the benefits to | 第三,女士们,先生们, 我将尝试说服你们 得到的好处 |
| 89 | the community, to our community, of religious celebrations and holidays such as Christmas. | 社区,我们的社区, 宗教庆祝和节日,如圣诞节。 |
| 90 | The proposition is going to tell you of the evils of religion. | 提议要告诉你宗教的邪恶 |
| 91 | Indeed, my honourable friend, Frankie, already has. | 确实,我尊敬的朋友,弗兰基,已经做到了。 |
| 92 | They will tell you of the more erudite parts of faith and make you fear an imperium in | 他们会告诉你一些 更深层次的信仰 让你害怕在 |
| 93 | imperia, a fifth column, acting in service of a god and a church over their civic duty | {\fn华文楷体\fs16\1cHE0E0E0}第五纵队 {\fn华文楷体\fs16\1cHE0E0E0}为上帝和教会服务 {\fn华文楷体\fs16\1cHE0E0E0}因为他们的公民义务 |
| 94 | 至 the州. | |
| 95 | It is, however, the proposition who would make this dystopia a reality. | 然而,正是这一提议才使这一障碍成为现实。 |
| 96 | In a chamber described by Harold Macmillan as the last bastion of free speech, it seems | 在一个被哈罗德·麦克米兰描述为 言论自由的最后堡垒的房间里 它似乎 |
| 97 | somewhat ironic that so far we have heard from a man who described himself as a classical | 有点讽刺,到目前为止,我们听到 一个男人 谁形容自己是一个古典 |
| 98 | liberal, tell us that we simply banish the views of 60% of the population from public | 自由派,告诉我们我们只是 将60%的人口的观点 公开。 |
| 99 | life and that those views will simply disappear. | 生命和这些观点会消失 |
| 100 | After the many problems presented by religions of all kinds and colours, it will not help | 在各种宗教和肤色提出许多问题之后,这无助于 |
| 101 | to simply remove them from society. | 让他们脱离社会 |
| 102 | All we will do is reduce our ability to tackle the radical elements with them through proper | 我们要做的就是降低我们的能力,通过适当的方法,处理激进因素。 |
| 103 | public debate such as this. | 像这样的公开辩论。 |
| 104 | Religious views have been persecuted for centuries, from King Edward's expulsion of the Jews | 从爱德华国王驱逐犹太人开始 几个世纪以来 宗教观点受到迫害 |
| 105 | in 1290 to the Irish penal laws. | 1290年,爱尔兰刑法。 |
| 106 | Attempts have been made by various political leaders to remove religious views from public | 各政治领袖试图从公众中消除宗教观点 |
| 107 | life and they have failed. | 生活却失败了 |
| 108 | They have failed every single time. | 他们每次都失败了 |
| 109 | I don't know what gave the proposition, the hubris, to believe that it is possible to | 我不知道是什么给了提议, 傲慢,相信这是可能的 |
| 110 | remove all religion from public life but I am certain it will become their nemesis tonight. | 将所有宗教从公共生活中清除出去 但我相信这今晚将成为他们的罪魁祸首 |
| 111 | You've also heard from my honourable friend on the proposition bench about how religion | 你也听过我的光荣朋友 关于宗教如何 |
| 112 | forces a moral framework on society. | 将道德框架强加于社会。 |
| 113 | He's explained at some length the evil of this. | 他用一定的长度解释了这个的邪恶. |
| 114 | I have two issues with this perspective. | 我有两个问题。 |
| 115 | First, the religion indeed actually does force a moral framework on society, for the vast | 首先,宗教确实将道德框架 强加给社会,对于广大 |
| 116 | majority of those in this country at least. | 这个国家的大多数人,至少。 |
| 117 | Their religious views are a choice. | 他们的宗教观点是一个选择。 |
| 118 | How strongly they follow those religious views are a choice. | 他们多么强烈地遵循这些宗教观点是一种选择。 |
| 119 | And secondly, I contend this position that this is even particularly wrong. | 其次,我主张这一立场甚至特别错误。 |
| 120 | We all follow a moral compass or so I hope. | 我们都遵循道德指南针 我希望如此 |
| 121 | Whether that compass is instilled by our parents, our education, our internal sense of virtue | 我们的父母,我们的教育,我们的内在美德感 是否灌输了指南针 |
| 122 | or even our religious views seems really to prove of little actual difference. | 甚至是我们的宗教观点 似乎证明没有什么实际差别 |
| 123 | Just as Sunday school may instil in children the belief that loving thy neighbour and attending | 就像星期天的学校 让孩子们相信 爱你的邻居 并参加 |
| 124 | church regularly is the path to a successful and happy life, I'm sure Love Island may | 定期的教堂是成功和幸福生活的道路 我相信爱岛 |
| 125 | instil a similar belief that being dumb and pretty is the path to success and union politics | 灌输一种类似的信念,即愚蠢和漂亮是成功和工会政治的道路。 |
| 126 | instils a belief that you must be self-interested and fake. | 灌输一种信念,即你必须是自私和虚假的。 |
| 127 | But I don't see the proposition calling for Love Island or union politics to be removed | 但我不认为有人要求取消 爱岛或联合政治 |
| 128 | from public life. | 从公共生活。 |
| 129 | Considering many religious teachings generally aim toward what I at least would consider | 考虑到许多宗教教义一般都是为了我至少认为 |
| 130 | morally virtuous outcomes, or more morally virtuous than certain parts of this institution | 道德良性结果,或比本机构某些部分更道德良性 |
| 131 | anyway, I'm inclined to believe that religion is, if not better than other moral frameworks, | 无论如何,我倾向于相信 宗教是,如果不是更好 比其他道德框架, |
| 132 | broadly a moral framework that merits being banned from public life. | 广义地说,这是一个值得禁止参与公共生活的道德框架。 |
| 133 | The last point I have to make this evening, ladies and gentlemen, is I hope a cheerful | 女士们先生们,我今晚要谈的最后一点,是希望大家快乐 |
| 134 | one for you all. | 给大家的 |
| 135 | Whilst the proposition so far has painted a bleak image of religion serving as the opium | 虽然这个提议迄今描绘了宗教作为鸦片的暗淡形象 |
| 136 | of the people, I urge you to consider what you most closely associate with religion. | 我敦促你们考虑你们与教诲最紧密的联系。 |
| 137 | For me, the first thing I think of is Christmas. | 对我来说,我想的第一件事是圣诞节。 |
| 138 | With the excuse of a religious holiday, family I have not seen for months gather together | 以宗教节日为借口 我几个月没见到家人聚在一起 |
| 139 | in celebration. | 在庆祝。 |
| 140 | I think of winter evenings, drinking mulled wine and catching up with friends. | 我想到了冬天的晚上 喝着烂酒跟朋友聊天 |
| 141 | I think of carol singing. | 我想到卡罗尔唱歌。 |
| 142 | I think of Secret Santa. | 我想到秘密圣诞老人。 |
| 143 | The whole idea of family and friends coming together to celebrate is surely central to | 亲朋好友聚在一起庆祝的 整个想法 |
| 144 | the religious teachings around these holidays. | 这些节日的宗教教义。 |
| 145 | I ask those opposite, what is so bad about this? | 我问相反的人 这有什么不好的? |
| 146 | What is so bad about families, friends, communities coming together to celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah | 家人、朋友、社区聚在一起庆祝圣诞节有什么不好的? |
| 147 | or Eid, that it must be banished from public life? | 还是开斋节,必须将其逐出公共生活? |
| 148 | Are we really to imagine a world where the government cannot declare Christmas a bank | 我们真的要想象这样一个世界吗 政府不能宣布圣诞节为银行 |
| 149 | holiday for fear of bringing religion into the public domain? | 因为害怕宗教进入公共领域而放假? |
| 150 | Perhaps the Queen shall have to scrap her Christmas address watched by an adoring nation | 也许王后必须毁掉她的圣诞住址 由一个敬仰的国家监视 |
| 151 | of those of all faiths and none. | 属于所有信仰和无信仰的人。 |
| 152 | If your fear of religion is that intense, do you have a scrooge-like disdain for what | 如果你对宗教的恐惧如此强烈, 你是否对什么有类似卑鄙的蔑视 |
| 153 | seems to be such an intrinsically good occasion? | 似乎是一个内在好的场合? |
| 154 | I have only one thing to say to you, Frankie, bar humbug. | 我只有一件事要跟你说,弗兰基,酒吧哼哼。 |
| 155 | Ladies and gentlemen, I shall not keep you too much longer, you'll be pleased to hear. | 女士们,先生们,我不会耽误你们太久的,你们会很高兴听到的. |
| 156 | However, before you vote this evening, I urge you to reflect on this motion. | 然而,在你今晚投票之前,我敦促你考虑这项动议。 |
| 157 | Religion often deserves a bad rep. | 宗教往往值得一个坏代表。 |
| 158 | Acts of extremism inspired by radical preachers, the horrifying actions of religious cults | 激进传教士煽动的极端主义行为、宗教邪教的恐怖行动 |
| 159 | or the wars waged across the ages in the name of one God or other. | 或以某种神的名义发动的历代战争。 |
| 160 | But tonight it is the proposition who are the real zealots. | 但今晚的命题才是真正的狂热者 |
| 161 | I reiterate the point I made at the start of my speech. | 我重申我在发言开始时提出的观点。 |
| 162 | The proposition's burden tonight is not to prove that religion is occasionally bad, | 今晚的提议不是要证明 宗教偶尔是坏的 |
| 163 | or that it indeed often leads to disagreeable outcomes, but that it is so negative, so beyond | 或者说,它确实常常导致令人不快的结果,但它是如此消极,因此超越了 |
| 164 | the pale, that it should have no place whatsoever in public life. | 苍白的, 它不应该有任何位置 在公共生活。 |
| 165 | If, on the other hand, you share my beliefs, a belief in freedom of speech and expression, | 另一方面,如果你同意我的信仰, 相信言论自由, |
| 166 | a belief in religion offering a moral compass to its many followers, and a belief in the | 信仰宗教,为许多信徒提供道德指南 |
| 167 | good that religious celebrations bring to a community, then I urge you to join me and | 宗教庆典带给一个社区,那么我敦促你和我一起 |
| 168 | vote down this motion tonight. | 今晚投票否决这个动议. |
| 169 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
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| 0:00 | I thank Frankie for his speech, and I now look to Adam Shuri, Secretary's Committee, | 我感谢弗兰基的演讲, 现在我期待亚当舒里,秘书委员会, |
| 0:13 | Belial College),为反对派立案. | |
| 0:22 | Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. | 晚上好 女士们先生们 |
| 0:25 | Thank you, Madam President, for the opportunity to address this Chamber this evening. | 主席女士,感谢你今晚有机会在本会议厅发言。 |
| 0:30 | I'm delighted to be opening the case for the opposition in this momentous debate. | 我很高兴在这场重大辩论中 为反对派开口 |
| 0:35 | I'd also like to thank the Honourable Member of Trinity College for his opening remarks | 我也要感谢三一学院荣誉成员致开幕词。 |
| 0:41 | in this debate. | 在这场辩论中。 |
| 0:42 | What confuses me, however, and I'm sure it also confuses many of you, is what precisely | 但我很迷惑 我相信这也迷惑了你们许多人 |
| 0:48 | the whole proposition bench is arguing for. | 整个提案席都在争论 |
| 0:59 | Their entire case seems to rest precariously on what we take to mean by public life. | 他们的整个案件似乎不可靠地依赖于我们所认为的公共生活的含义。 |
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| 1 | I thank Frankie for his speech, and I now look to Adam Shuri, Secretary's Committee, | 我感谢弗兰基的演讲, 现在我期待亚当舒里,秘书委员会, |
| 2 | Belial College),为反对派立案. | |
| 3 | Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. | 晚上好 女士们先生们 |
| 4 | Thank you, Madam President, for the opportunity to address this Chamber this evening. | 主席女士,感谢你今晚有机会在本会议厅发言。 |
| 5 | I'm delighted to be opening the case for the opposition in this momentous debate. | 我很高兴在这场重大辩论中 为反对派开口 |
| 6 | I'd also like to thank the Honourable Member of Trinity College for his opening remarks | 我也要感谢三一学院荣誉成员致开幕词。 |
| 7 | in this debate. | 在这场辩论中。 |
| 8 | What confuses me, however, and I'm sure it also confuses many of you, is what precisely | 但我很迷惑 我相信这也迷惑了你们许多人 |
| 9 | the whole proposition bench is arguing for. | 整个提案席都在争论 |
| 10 | Their entire case seems to rest precariously on what we take to mean by public life. | 他们的整个案件似乎不可靠地依赖于我们所认为的公共生活的含义。 |
| 11 | Perhaps the proposition will convince you with ease that governments should not be run | 或许这个提议会轻松地说服你,政府不应该运行。 |
| 12 | or influenced by religious figures. | 或受宗教人物影响。 |
| 13 | Or that education should not include any religious element. | 或者教育不应包括任何宗教内容。 |
| 14 | Maybe even they will convince you that state broadcasters should not be allowed to show | 也许他们甚至会说服你 国家广播公司不应该被允许播放 |
| 15 | religious programmes. | 宗教课程。 |
| 16 | As much as they may try to make you forget it, it is of course their burden to convince | 尽管他们可能试图让你忘记它, 当然他们的责任是说服 |
| 17 | you of the entirety of their motion, that religion deserves no place whatsoever in public | 你们在他们的整个运动中,教义是不容任何公开的。 |
| 18 | life. | 活着 |
| 19 | Note then, a general opposition to religious control or to particular instances even of | 请注意,普遍反对宗教控制,甚至反对某些特定情况。 |
| 20 | religion is insufficient. | 宗教是不够的。 |
| 21 | This is not a debate about religious extremism, but you must be convinced that religion deserves | 这不是一场关于宗教极端主义的辩论, 但你必须相信,宗教值得 |
| 22 | absolutely no place in public life to walk through the eye lobby later this evening. | 绝对没有地方在公共生活中 走过眼前厅 今晚晚些时候。 |
| 23 | Should the six billion theists of this world be forced to only discuss their religion in | 如果世界六十亿神学家 被迫只讨论他们的宗教 |
| 24 | private, concealed spaces? | 隐蔽的私人空间? |
| 25 | Should an athlete perhaps be forbidden from saying a prayer before a televised race? | 是否应该禁止运动员在电视赛前祈祷? |
| 26 | Maybe a cross on a necklace or a hijab must now be ruled illegal. | 也许项链上的十字架或头巾 现在必须被裁定为非法 |
| 27 | My honourable friend seems to be able to provide a convincing definition of what religion in | 我尊敬的朋友似乎能够提供 令人信服的定义 宗教在 |
| 28 | public life really is, but if we are to take this absolute perspective, the subjection | 公共生活确实如此,但如果我们要从这个绝对的角度来看待, |
| 29 | under which we would place a large swathe of the population seems entirely unreasonable. | 将大批人口置于这一地位似乎完全不合理。 |
| 30 | I hope to convince you all to join me in voting no this evening, but before I do that it | 我希望今晚能说服你们和我一起投票反对 但在此之前 |
| 31 | forces me to introduce the speakers for the proposition. | 迫使我向大家介绍这个提议。 |
| 32 | You've just heard from the Honourable Member Frankie Wright of Trinity College, a fellow | 你刚刚从三一学院的 法兰基·赖特议员那里听说了,一位研究员 |
| 33 | member of the Secretary's Committee and a good friend, whatever his questionable choice | 秘书委员会成员和一个好朋友,不管他选择什么值得怀疑 |
| 34 | of college. | 在大学。 |
| 35 | Whilst his early education at Catholic school perhaps failed to make an impact, I suspect | 虽然他在天主教学校的早期教育 可能没有起到作用,我怀疑 |
| 36 | he might be inclined to cross the floor and join us if, as well as mass on a Sunday morning, | 他可能倾向于越过地板 加入我们 如果,和弥撒 在星期天早上, |
| 37 | we were to consider portent policy a religious occasion on a Sunday night. | 我们本打算把示意性的政策 视为周日晚上的宗教场合 |
| 38 | In a much less serious chamber before this, the Honourable Member successfully had me | 在此之前,在一个不太严肃的会议厅里,尊敬的成员成功地使我 |
| 39 | expelled on accusation of electoral malpractice. | 以选举渎职罪名被开除。 |
| 40 | With less than a day until nominations close, I hope our run for standing committee goes | 不到一天的提名就要结束 我希望我们竞选常设委员会 |
| 41 | a little more smoothly, Frankie. | 更顺利一点,弗兰基。 |
| 42 | That said, I wish him and his presidential candidates the best of luck, and I hope they | 尽管如此,我祝他和他的总统候选人好运,我希望他们 |
| 43 | can come up with an interesting slate name. | 可以想出一个有趣的名字。 |
| 44 | I certainly couldn't think of one. | 我当然想不出一个 |
| 45 | Peter Atkins教授将支持今晚的动议 | |
| 46 | our own Lincoln College. | 我们自己的林肯学院。 |
| 47 | Professor Atkins is a distinguished supporter of Humanists UK and was the first senior member | 阿特金斯教授是英国人文主义者的杰出支持者,也是首位资深成员. |
| 48 | of the University Secular Society. | 大学世俗学会 |
| 49 | Whilst on a television panel with Richard Dawkins, he was recorded growling at Mr Swimburne, | 在和理查德·道金斯的电视板上 他被录制在Swimbune先生的咆哮 |
| 50 | the member to my left, may you rot in hell, which seems somewhat confusing from a man | 我左边的那个成员 愿你堕入地狱 这似乎有点让人困惑 |
| 51 | who doesn't believe in God. | 谁不相信上帝。 |
| 52 | We can perhaps forgive these minor errors, of course, from a man who dropped out of school | 我们也许可以原谅那些小错误, 当然,一个辍学的人。 |
| 53 | aged 15. | 15岁 |
| 54 | Next up in the proposition is Miss Alvie Smith, an academic at University College Dublin and | 接下来是阿尔维·史密斯小姐 都柏林大学学院的学者 |
| 55 | a key activist in the bid to repeal the constitutional ban on abortion in Ireland. | 争取废除爱尔兰宪法禁止堕胎的关键活动家。 |
| 56 | She was named as one of the times 100 most influential people as a result of her efforts | 由于她的努力,她被命名为百倍最有影响力的人之一 |
| 57 | on this. | 这个 |
| 58 | I'm sure, of course, she feels right at home in the Oxford Union having ran a campaign | 我敢肯定,当然,她觉得 在家在牛津大学 曾经开展竞选活动 |
| 59 | called Together. | 叫做"一起来" |
| 60 | Let's hope she's not impeached any time soon. | 希望她没被弹劾 |
| 61 | Closing the debate for the proposition is Mike Newdow, an experienced ER physician having | 结束辩论的是Mike Newdow, 一位经验丰富的急诊医生 |
| 62 | attended the UCLA School of Medicine. | 就读于加州大学洛杉矶分校医学院。 |
| 63 | Mr Newdow challenged the legality of the Pledge of Allegiance in the Supreme Court, | Newdow先生在最高法院质疑 " 声援承诺 " 的合法性, |
| 64 | losing twice. | 输了两次 |
| 65 | He also attempted unsuccessfully to have the words, in God we trust, removed from American | 他还试图把那些话从美国人身上删除 但没有成功 |
| 66 | currency. | 货币。 |
| 67 | He also lost a lawsuit against Franklin Graham after he invoked God at President Bush's inauguration. | 在布什总统就职典礼上他援引上帝之后,他也败诉富兰克林·格雷厄姆. |
| 68 | And he attempted to do the same at President Obama's inauguration. | 他试图在奥巴马总统就职典礼上也这样做。 |
| 69 | I'm sure he'll feel very comfortable tonight on the proposition bench once again in | 我敢肯定,他今晚会感到非常舒适 再次在提案席上 |
| 70 | being on the losing side. | 站在迷失的一边 |
| 71 | Madam President, these are your speakers, and they are most welcome. | 主席女士,这是你的发言者,非常欢迎。 |
| 72 | Whilst then we could consider religion and public life in the stringent way that I set | 虽然这样,我们可以考虑 宗教和公共生活 严格的方式,我设置 |
| 73 | out earlier, I will be reasonable to the members opposite, to my friends. | 早些时候,我对反面的成员,我的朋友来说,是合情合理的。 |
| 74 | I see religion and public life as something a little like this. | 我认为宗教和公共生活有点类似。 |
| 75 | People should be able to debate religious questions as we are debating them tonight | 我们今晚辩论宗教问题的时候 人们应该能辩论宗教问题 |
| 76 | in this chamber. | 在这个会议厅。 |
| 77 | They should be able to discuss their religion openly. | 他们应该能够公开讨论他们的宗教。 |
| 78 | I would expect religion and religious questions to form some part of political discourse. | 我希望宗教和宗教问题成为政治讨论的一部分。 |
| 79 | And the state should be able to observe religious holidays and celebrations. | 而国家应该能够庆祝宗教节日和庆祝活动. |
| 80 | And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the position that I'm going to try to defend to you this | 女士们,先生们,这就是我要为你们辩护的立场 |
| 81 | evening. | 边 |
| 82 | There are three key arguments I'm going to highlight to you in an attempt to convince | 有三个关键论点,我要向你们强调 试图说服 |
| 83 | you to join me in voting down this motion. | 请你和我一起投票否决这个动议 |
| 84 | Firstly, freedom of religious expression is an inalienable right, and any attempt to encroach | 第一,宗教自由是一项不可剥夺的权利,任何侵犯和侵犯宗教自由的企图 |
| 85 | upon it by a state would be the first step on a road to totalitarianism. | 由一个国家执行将是走向极权主义的第一步。 |
| 86 | Secondly, that the moral framework of the vast majority of religious teachings is generally | 第二,绝大多数宗教教义的道德框架一般是: |
| 87 | a force for good and leads to a better society. | 一种为善的力量,并导致一个更美好的社会。 |
| 88 | And thirdly, ladies and gentlemen, I will attempt to convince you of the benefits to | 第三,女士们,先生们, 我将尝试说服你们 得到的好处 |
| 89 | the community, to our community, of religious celebrations and holidays such as Christmas. | 社区,我们的社区, 宗教庆祝和节日,如圣诞节。 |
| 90 | The proposition is going to tell you of the evils of religion. | 提议要告诉你宗教的邪恶 |
| 91 | Indeed, my honourable friend, Frankie, already has. | 确实,我尊敬的朋友,弗兰基,已经做到了。 |
| 92 | They will tell you of the more erudite parts of faith and make you fear an imperium in | 他们会告诉你一些 更深层次的信仰 让你害怕在 |
| 93 | imperia, a fifth column, acting in service of a god and a church over their civic duty | {\fn华文楷体\fs16\1cHE0E0E0}第五纵队 {\fn华文楷体\fs16\1cHE0E0E0}为上帝和教会服务 {\fn华文楷体\fs16\1cHE0E0E0}因为他们的公民义务 |
| 94 | 至 the州. | |
| 95 | It is, however, the proposition who would make this dystopia a reality. | 然而,正是这一提议才使这一障碍成为现实。 |
| 96 | In a chamber described by Harold Macmillan as the last bastion of free speech, it seems | 在一个被哈罗德·麦克米兰描述为 言论自由的最后堡垒的房间里 它似乎 |
| 97 | somewhat ironic that so far we have heard from a man who described himself as a classical | 有点讽刺,到目前为止,我们听到 一个男人 谁形容自己是一个古典 |
| 98 | liberal, tell us that we simply banish the views of 60% of the population from public | 自由派,告诉我们我们只是 将60%的人口的观点 公开。 |
| 99 | life and that those views will simply disappear. | 生命和这些观点会消失 |
| 100 | After the many problems presented by religions of all kinds and colours, it will not help | 在各种宗教和肤色提出许多问题之后,这无助于 |
| 101 | to simply remove them from society. | 让他们脱离社会 |
| 102 | All we will do is reduce our ability to tackle the radical elements with them through proper | 我们要做的就是降低我们的能力,通过适当的方法,处理激进因素。 |
| 103 | public debate such as this. | 像这样的公开辩论。 |
| 104 | Religious views have been persecuted for centuries, from King Edward's expulsion of the Jews | 从爱德华国王驱逐犹太人开始 几个世纪以来 宗教观点受到迫害 |
| 105 | in 1290 to the Irish penal laws. | 1290年,爱尔兰刑法。 |
| 106 | Attempts have been made by various political leaders to remove religious views from public | 各政治领袖试图从公众中消除宗教观点 |
| 107 | life and they have failed. | 生活却失败了 |
| 108 | They have failed every single time. | 他们每次都失败了 |
| 109 | I don't know what gave the proposition, the hubris, to believe that it is possible to | 我不知道是什么给了提议, 傲慢,相信这是可能的 |
| 110 | remove all religion from public life but I am certain it will become their nemesis tonight. | 将所有宗教从公共生活中清除出去 但我相信这今晚将成为他们的罪魁祸首 |
| 111 | You've also heard from my honourable friend on the proposition bench about how religion | 你也听过我的光荣朋友 关于宗教如何 |
| 112 | forces a moral framework on society. | 将道德框架强加于社会。 |
| 113 | He's explained at some length the evil of this. | 他用一定的长度解释了这个的邪恶. |
| 114 | I have two issues with this perspective. | 我有两个问题。 |
| 115 | First, the religion indeed actually does force a moral framework on society, for the vast | 首先,宗教确实将道德框架 强加给社会,对于广大 |
| 116 | majority of those in this country at least. | 这个国家的大多数人,至少。 |
| 117 | Their religious views are a choice. | 他们的宗教观点是一个选择。 |
| 118 | How strongly they follow those religious views are a choice. | 他们多么强烈地遵循这些宗教观点是一种选择。 |
| 119 | And secondly, I contend this position that this is even particularly wrong. | 其次,我主张这一立场甚至特别错误。 |
| 120 | We all follow a moral compass or so I hope. | 我们都遵循道德指南针 我希望如此 |
| 121 | Whether that compass is instilled by our parents, our education, our internal sense of virtue | 我们的父母,我们的教育,我们的内在美德感 是否灌输了指南针 |
| 122 | or even our religious views seems really to prove of little actual difference. | 甚至是我们的宗教观点 似乎证明没有什么实际差别 |
| 123 | Just as Sunday school may instil in children the belief that loving thy neighbour and attending | 就像星期天的学校 让孩子们相信 爱你的邻居 并参加 |
| 124 | church regularly is the path to a successful and happy life, I'm sure Love Island may | 定期的教堂是成功和幸福生活的道路 我相信爱岛 |
| 125 | instil a similar belief that being dumb and pretty is the path to success and union politics | 灌输一种类似的信念,即愚蠢和漂亮是成功和工会政治的道路。 |
| 126 | instils a belief that you must be self-interested and fake. | 灌输一种信念,即你必须是自私和虚假的。 |
| 127 | But I don't see the proposition calling for Love Island or union politics to be removed | 但我不认为有人要求取消 爱岛或联合政治 |
| 128 | from public life. | 从公共生活。 |
| 129 | Considering many religious teachings generally aim toward what I at least would consider | 考虑到许多宗教教义一般都是为了我至少认为 |
| 130 | morally virtuous outcomes, or more morally virtuous than certain parts of this institution | 道德良性结果,或比本机构某些部分更道德良性 |
| 131 | anyway, I'm inclined to believe that religion is, if not better than other moral frameworks, | 无论如何,我倾向于相信 宗教是,如果不是更好 比其他道德框架, |
| 132 | broadly a moral framework that merits being banned from public life. | 广义地说,这是一个值得禁止参与公共生活的道德框架。 |
| 133 | The last point I have to make this evening, ladies and gentlemen, is I hope a cheerful | 女士们先生们,我今晚要谈的最后一点,是希望大家快乐 |
| 134 | one for you all. | 给大家的 |
| 135 | Whilst the proposition so far has painted a bleak image of religion serving as the opium | 虽然这个提议迄今描绘了宗教作为鸦片的暗淡形象 |
| 136 | of the people, I urge you to consider what you most closely associate with religion. | 我敦促你们考虑你们与教诲最紧密的联系。 |
| 137 | For me, the first thing I think of is Christmas. | 对我来说,我想的第一件事是圣诞节。 |
| 138 | With the excuse of a religious holiday, family I have not seen for months gather together | 以宗教节日为借口 我几个月没见到家人聚在一起 |
| 139 | in celebration. | 在庆祝。 |
| 140 | I think of winter evenings, drinking mulled wine and catching up with friends. | 我想到了冬天的晚上 喝着烂酒跟朋友聊天 |
| 141 | I think of carol singing. | 我想到卡罗尔唱歌。 |
| 142 | I think of Secret Santa. | 我想到秘密圣诞老人。 |
| 143 | The whole idea of family and friends coming together to celebrate is surely central to | 亲朋好友聚在一起庆祝的 整个想法 |
| 144 | the religious teachings around these holidays. | 这些节日的宗教教义。 |
| 145 | I ask those opposite, what is so bad about this? | 我问相反的人 这有什么不好的? |
| 146 | What is so bad about families, friends, communities coming together to celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah | 家人、朋友、社区聚在一起庆祝圣诞节有什么不好的? |
| 147 | or Eid, that it must be banished from public life? | 还是开斋节,必须将其逐出公共生活? |
| 148 | Are we really to imagine a world where the government cannot declare Christmas a bank | 我们真的要想象这样一个世界吗 政府不能宣布圣诞节为银行 |
| 149 | holiday for fear of bringing religion into the public domain? | 因为害怕宗教进入公共领域而放假? |
| 150 | Perhaps the Queen shall have to scrap her Christmas address watched by an adoring nation | 也许王后必须毁掉她的圣诞住址 由一个敬仰的国家监视 |
| 151 | of those of all faiths and none. | 属于所有信仰和无信仰的人。 |
| 152 | If your fear of religion is that intense, do you have a scrooge-like disdain for what | 如果你对宗教的恐惧如此强烈, 你是否对什么有类似卑鄙的蔑视 |
| 153 | seems to be such an intrinsically good occasion? | 似乎是一个内在好的场合? |
| 154 | I have only one thing to say to you, Frankie, bar humbug. | 我只有一件事要跟你说,弗兰基,酒吧哼哼。 |
| 155 | Ladies and gentlemen, I shall not keep you too much longer, you'll be pleased to hear. | 女士们,先生们,我不会耽误你们太久的,你们会很高兴听到的. |
| 156 | However, before you vote this evening, I urge you to reflect on this motion. | 然而,在你今晚投票之前,我敦促你考虑这项动议。 |
| 157 | Religion often deserves a bad rep. | 宗教往往值得一个坏代表。 |
| 158 | Acts of extremism inspired by radical preachers, the horrifying actions of religious cults | 激进传教士煽动的极端主义行为、宗教邪教的恐怖行动 |
| 159 | or the wars waged across the ages in the name of one God or other. | 或以某种神的名义发动的历代战争。 |
| 160 | But tonight it is the proposition who are the real zealots. | 但今晚的命题才是真正的狂热者 |
| 161 | I reiterate the point I made at the start of my speech. | 我重申我在发言开始时提出的观点。 |
| 162 | The proposition's burden tonight is not to prove that religion is occasionally bad, | 今晚的提议不是要证明 宗教偶尔是坏的 |
| 163 | or that it indeed often leads to disagreeable outcomes, but that it is so negative, so beyond | 或者说,它确实常常导致令人不快的结果,但它是如此消极,因此超越了 |
| 164 | the pale, that it should have no place whatsoever in public life. | 苍白的, 它不应该有任何位置 在公共生活。 |
| 165 | If, on the other hand, you share my beliefs, a belief in freedom of speech and expression, | 另一方面,如果你同意我的信仰, 相信言论自由, |
| 166 | a belief in religion offering a moral compass to its many followers, and a belief in the | 信仰宗教,为许多信徒提供道德指南 |
| 167 | good that religious celebrations bring to a community, then I urge you to join me and | 宗教庆典带给一个社区,那么我敦促你和我一起 |
| 168 | vote down this motion tonight. | 今晚投票否决这个动议. |
| 169 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
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