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TED演讲:AI造假的3个核心真相

TED演讲:AI造假的3个核心真相

TED演讲:AI造假的3个核心真相

发布于 2026-09-11 · 时长 13:07

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0:04So, Tom, your company became prominent on the internet with the release of a fake Tom所以,汤姆,你的公司 在互联网上变得突出 随着一个假汤姆的发布
0:10Cruise video, deep Tom Cruise, that I think attracted like a billion views on TikTok and巡航视频,深汤姆巡航, 我认为吸引了 像十亿观看TikTok和
0:16Instagram, which leads me to my first question, which is, please, can we, at TED, have ourInstagram,这让我想到我的第一个问题, 就是,请,我们,在TED,
0:22own Tom Cruise video, please?汤姆・克鲁斯的视频,好吗?
0:24You know, I thought you might ask, so a little earlier we had a crack.你知道,我想你可能会问, 所以稍早一点,我们有一个裂缝。
0:28Maybe we'll have a look.也许我们可以看看。
0:30Let's have a look.让我们来看看。
0:32What's up, internet?怎么样,互联网?
0:34I'm north of the border, eh, at the TED conference.我在边境北部,嗯,在TED会议上。
0:38It's not short for Theodore, but nobody calls me Thomas, so it's cool.这对西奥多来说并不短暂,但没人叫我托马斯,所以很酷.
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1So, Tom, your company became prominent on the internet with the release of a fake Tom所以,汤姆,你的公司 在互联网上变得突出 随着一个假汤姆的发布
2Cruise video, deep Tom Cruise, that I think attracted like a billion views on TikTok and巡航视频,深汤姆巡航, 我认为吸引了 像十亿观看TikTok和
3Instagram, which leads me to my first question, which is, please, can we, at TED, have ourInstagram,这让我想到我的第一个问题, 就是,请,我们,在TED,
4own Tom Cruise video, please?汤姆・克鲁斯的视频,好吗?
5You know, I thought you might ask, so a little earlier we had a crack.你知道,我想你可能会问, 所以稍早一点,我们有一个裂缝。
6Maybe we'll have a look.也许我们可以看看。
7Let's have a look.让我们来看看。
8What's up, internet?怎么样,互联网?
9I'm north of the border, eh, at the TED conference.我在边境北部,嗯,在TED会议上。
10It's not short for Theodore, but nobody calls me Thomas, so it's cool.这对西奥多来说并不短暂,但没人叫我托马斯,所以很酷.
11It's Tom at TED.这是汤姆在TED。
12Yes, Canada.对,是加拿大
13Seriously, though, everybody here, very nice, very polite, especially the whales.说真的,虽然,这里的每一个人, 非常好,非常礼貌,尤其是鲸鱼。
14I mean, how did you do that?我是说 你是怎么做到的?
15So really, at Metaphysic, we specialise in creating artificially generated content that因此,真的,在Metaphysic, 我们专门创建 人工生成的内容
16looks and feels exactly like reality.感觉和现实完全一样
17So we take kind of real world data, we train these neural nets, and it can more accurately因此,我们收集一些真实的世界数据, 我们训练这些神经网, 它可以更准确
18than VFX or CGI really create this content that looks and feels so natural.比VFX或CGI真正创建了这种看起来和感觉如此自然的内容.
19And so that is a great example of the AI being kind of prompted by the natural performance这是人工智能被自然表现所激发的伟大例子
20of a person and kind of the face goes on top.一个人和某种人的脸都在上面
21And it helps the fact that your co-founder is, you know, he's a pretty good Tom Cruise你的共同创始人是个不错的汤姆·克鲁斯
22impersonator.冒牌货
23Indeed, Miles Fisher is the foremost Tom Cruise, but not Tom Cruise.实际上,迈尔斯·费舍尔是最重要的汤姆·克鲁斯,但不是汤姆·克鲁斯.
24I think you have another example as well.我想你还有另一个例子
25Can we see that one?我们能看看吗?
26Yes, absolutely.是的,当然。
27Going kind of beyond faces now talking about voice.越走越远的面孔 现在谈论的声音。
28Tell us what's happening there.告诉我们那里发生了什么
29So what you see there is really it is the singing voice of a lady singing Spanish and所以,你所看到的是 真正的是歌声 一个女士唱西班牙语和
30Aloe Blacc, who sings Wake Me Up, the Avicii song that he wrote with Avicii.阿洛·布拉克(Aloe Blacc),他演唱了Wake Me Up,是阿维奇与阿维奇共同创作的阿维奇歌曲.
31We are transporting her voice across to his face, so he doesn't sing in Spanish, and then我们把她的声音带到他脸上, 所以他不唱西班牙语,然后
32suddenly we transport it again, her voice into his voice.突然我们又把声音传到他的声音里了
33So anybody in the future will be able to speak any language.所以将来任何人都能说出任何一种语言.
34It'll look perfectly natural.这看起来很自然
35And this content is becoming more and more easy to create.而这个内容也越来越容易创作.
36And eventually it will end up with a scale where we will all be kind of main characters最终,它最终会有一个尺度 在那里,我们都 会是那种主要的角色
37in our own content on the Internet.在互联网上我们自己的内容。
38OK, before we dig into that just a bit, I mean, you've shown us recorded video there.好吧,在我们开始调查之前, 我的意思是,你给我们看了录影带。
39Rumour has it you can also do this with live video.有传言说,你也可以用视频直播。
40Can that be right?可以吗?
41Yes, we can do it live real time.是的,我们可以实时直播。
42And this is like really at the cutting edge of what we can do today, moving from offline这就像真正的尖端 我们今天可以做的, 从离线
43processing to we're processing it so fast that you can do it in real time.处理到我们处理它的速度太快,你可以实时完成.
44And so.则曰.
45Well, I'm going to challenge you and your team to do a bit of a first here.好吧,我要挑战你和你的团队 做一些第一次在这里。
46I mean, there's video of you right up on that screen.我是说,屏幕上有你的照片
47Show us something surprising you can.给我们展示一些你能够感到惊讶的东西。
48Oh, wait.单单
49So there we go.就这样
50This is, you know, a live real time model of Chris on top of me running in real time.这是克里斯的现场实时模特儿 在我身上实时跑
51And next you'll tell me that it can.然后你会告诉我它可以。
52Oh, Lord, I'm so uncomfortable with this.哦,上帝,我对这个感到很不舒服。
53I am so uncomfortable.我太不自在了。 。 。
54Can it can it do voice as well?它也能做声音吗?
55We think it can.我们认为它可以。
56We're we're really pushing.我们真的在推动。
57We're really pushing the limits of AI technology now.我们现在真的在推进AI技术的极限.
58And I'm talking exactly as I've heard as Thomas Graham is coming out as the one and only托马斯·格雷厄姆出场时 我所听到的就是
59for sense.理智地说
60I am I am I'm deeply sorry, everyone, subject you to this.我深表歉意,各位,请你们接受
61You know, there's something possibly even worse.可能还有更糟糕的事
62So to come clean on this, that they made me you know, I did some they took some shots of为了澄清这件事 他们让我知道 我做了一些 他们拍了一些
63me a couple of weeks ago doing different facial expressions that they captured a video几周前我做了不同的面部表情 他们捕捉到一个视频
64model.型号。
65And it turns out I discovered this week that they can apply that not just to Tom but to结果我发现这周 他们不仅可以申请给汤姆
66anyone.谁都行
67And so my dear friend Sonny Bates is here in the front row.我亲爱的朋友桑尼·贝茨就在这排前排
68Sonny, do you consent to to channel in a me for a minute?桑尼,你同意跟我通话吗?
69Well, let's can we try that?我们试试看
70I'm really worried about this.我真的很担心这个
71Do we have Sonny on screen?桑尼在屏幕上吗?
72Oh, this this, Sonny, oh, no, oh, no, oh, no.哦,这个,桑尼,哦,不,哦,不,不。
73I, you know, Chris, you look amazing.我,你知道,克里斯, 你看起来惊人。
74All right.好吧,我们走。
75Enough of that.够了
76Cut that.别闹了
77Cut that right now.现在切掉它。
78I mean, yes, more, more of this.我的意思是,是的,更多,更多这样的。
79Tom, Tom, Sonny Bates is the woman who introduced me to Ted.汤姆 汤姆 桑尼·贝茨是那个把我介绍给泰德的女人
80Without Sonny Bates, none of us would actually be here now.没有桑尼·贝茨,我们谁也不会在这里了。
81And we do we reward her with this.我们用这个奖励她
82And now you've finally become the master, you know.现在,你终于成为了主人,你知道的。
83So look, OK, amazing.所以,看,OK,惊人的。
84It obviously occurs to everyone in this room that there are some things that can go很明显,在这个房间里的每一个人 都有一些事情可以去
85horribly wrong with this.这简直是大错特错了
86And, you know, we've already seen, you know, examples online of, you know, we've had而且,你知道,我们已经看到,你知道, 在线的例子,你知道,我们已经
87photographs of Trump being arrested that were unreal.特朗普被捕的照片是真实的
88There could be video of it.可能会有录像
89There's pornography that can use the faces of celebrities, all these things that we've有些色情作品可以用名人的脸, 我们所有的这些东西
90seen.看见了
91In fact, how how do you feel about the downside of this technology?事实上,你对这个技术的缺点有什么感觉?
92So personally, you know, we build this stuff and I'm worried, right?所以个人,你知道,我们造这些东西 我很担心,对不对?
93Worried is the right instinct for everybody to have.担心是每个人都有的本能
94And then, you know, beyond that, think about, you know, what can we do to prepare然后,你知道,除此之外, 想想,你知道, 我们能做什么准备
95ourselves?我们自己?
96How can we try to impact the future as it spirals in this direction,我们怎样才能影响未来呢? 当未来向这个方向飞来飞去,
97where as individuals, it's going to be kind of difficult to understand what's作为个人,很难理解
98computer generated and what's real.电脑生成,什么是真实的。
99And so there are things that we can do there.因此,有一些事情 我们可以在那里做。
100Raising public awareness and manipulate it in media.提高公众认识,在媒体上操纵。
101That's one that's, you know, it's a great forum for that.这是一个,你知道, 这是一个伟大的论坛。
102Will you claim to me that if you were to shut down your company right now, it你会向我声称 如果你现在关闭你的公司,它
103wouldn't stop the problem of deep fake videos because the technology is out there无法阻止 深层假视频的问题 因为技术在那里
104that that's going to happen anyway, that that's not within your control?这事无论如何都会发生, 这不在你的控制范围之内?
105Yes, there are.是的,还有。
106We're talking about content that is so compelling.我们谈论的内容是如此令人信服。
107If, you know, we put any of ourselves inside content and maybe it is talking to如果,你知道,我们把自己的任何内容 并且也许它说话
108our loved ones or just talking to our friends on the beach.或只是和海滩上的朋友聊天
109And it's so realistic that it looks real.并真如实观.
110It's so compelling.它是如此令人信服。
111Everybody is trying to create this content today.大家今天都在尝试创造这个内容。
112All of the GPUs in the universe are driving it trying to create this.宇宙中所有的GPU都在驱动它试图创造这个.
113So it doesn't matter what any one person does.所以一个人做什么都无所谓
114This will happen and it's happening very, very quickly.这将会发生,它正在发生 非常,非常快。
115So, I mean, we'll talk about the upside in a second, but the but it seems like we所以,我的意思是,我们将谈论 反面在一秒钟, 但似乎我们
116are going to have to get used to a world where we and our children will no longer将不得不适应一个世界 我们和我们的孩子将不再
117be able to trust the evidence of our eyes.能够相信我们的眼睛的证据
118I think so.我想是这样。
119We are going to have to understand a new set of institutions to我们必须了解一套新的机构
120verify what is authentic media.验证什么是真实的媒体。
121But then we can begin to lead into some of the creative things that happen from it.但是,然后我们可以开始 引领一些创造性的事物 从它发生。
122And there are benefits that come with that, too.也会带来一些好处。
123So it'll be an accommodation.所以,这将是一个住宿。
124So talk a bit about the benefits.说说好处吧
125I mean, obviously, on the entertainment side, there's an amazing number of我的意思是,很明显,在娱乐方面, 有惊人的数字
126possibilities.各种可能性。
127You have Tom Cruise.你有汤姆·克鲁斯
128We can have Impossible Mission 273 in the year 2150, right?我们可以在2150年完成273号任务 对吧?
129Like he will be with us forever.就像他会永远和我们在一起
130We're working on number 75,000 right now.我们正在研究75000号
131I guess that is kind of amazing.我想这有点不可思议
132Like we love lots of people in the world and we want the possibility that with their就像我们爱 很多人在世界上 我们想要的可能性 与他们
133permission, we can do more with them.允许的话,我们可以做更多的与他们。
134Talk about some other possible upsides.说说其他可能的颠倒
135What we've seen in kind of building this content and watching people interact with我们所看到的 建立这种内容 和观看人们互动
136it, especially if they're kind of interacting with themselves, maybe it's their它,尤其是如果他们 有点与自己互动, 也许这是他们的
137younger 20 year old self or maybe they're interacting with their partner, but the年仅20岁的自己 或也许他们正在互动 他们的伴侣,但
138young version of their partner, there's this tremendous emotional connection that年轻版的伴侣 有着巨大的情感联系
139comes from the very, very photorealistic beyond the uncanny kind of content.来自于非常,非常的光现实主义 超越了令人难以置信的内容。
140And so if we can start deploying that among regular people, if we can scale it up so因此,如果我们能开始在普通人中部署, 如果我们能扩大它,
141that it works for any kind of person, then we can begin to kind of, you know, have它可以为任何种类的人工作, 然后我们可以开始一种,你知道,有
142more interesting, meaningful human kind of interactions and relationships online.更有趣,更有意义的人类类型 互动和关系在线。
143And since the pandemic, we all spend more time online, but it's chat and it's email.自从流行以来,我们都花更多的时间上网, 但它是聊天和电子邮件。
144If we could get more human emotion, more feeling, there's a lot that we can do with如果我们能得到更多的人类情感,更多的感觉, 我们可以做很多事情
145that, right?是吗?
146And so, you know, education is a good example.所以,你知道,教育是一个很好的例子。
147We could have an inspiring teacher in thousands of classrooms around the world,我们可以有一个鼓舞人心的老师 在世界各地的数千间教室,
148speaking every language in the world at the same time, and students could interact说世界每种语言 同时,学生可以互动
149with each other in a way that was, you know, goes beyond Zoom.以某种方式,你知道, 超越了Zoom。
150There can be real cultural exchange, real socialisation.可以进行真正的文化交流,实现真正的社会化.
151There's a lot that we can do beyond you.除了你 我们还有很多事要做
152So that teacher example is powerful to me, like the fact that a single teacher could所以这个老师的例子对我很有力量 就像一个老师可以
153turn a written lesson into video in any number of languages and extend将任何语言的书面课程转换成视频并扩展
154indefinitely.无限.
155That seems like a real amplification of potentially of good, you这似乎是一个真正的放大 潜在的好,你
156know, human intent.人类的意图
157I'm excited by that.我很兴奋
158I still don't get the family side of it.我还是不明白家庭方面。
159Like that, like, if you want to have a human connection with someone in your喜欢,喜欢,如果你想 有人类联系 在你的人
160family, isn't it like, how won't people just be creeped out by, oh, my God, I was家人,是不是像, 人们不会只是被爬出, 哦,我的上帝,我是
161just looking at your avatar.只是看着你的阿凡达。
162I thought I thought it was you, you know, like, how do we get isn't that just creepy?我以为是你,你知道,我们怎么得到 是不是只是令人毛骨悚然?
163I think there's definitely a creepy element to this.我认为这绝对是一个令人毛骨悚然的因素。
164Right.对
165And then you go beyond that and the creepiness drops away and the medium然后,你走超越, 和爬行下降 和介质
166drops away and it's the content and the connection that's there.掉下来,它的内容和连接在那里。
167So, you know, I imagine that, you know, if I collect data from my grandparents who所以,你知道,我想,你知道, 如果我收集数据 从我的祖父母谁
168are very old today, then in the future, I'll be able to relive experiences with今天很老了,然后在未来, 我可以重温经验与
169them and communicate with them.和他们交流。
170And that it's not going to be any good for them.而且这对他们没有任何好处。
171Right.对
172They're probably going to have passed on.他们可能已经过去了。
173But for me, it'll help me process who I am, my relationship with them, that idea但对我来说,这会帮助我 处理我是谁, 我与他们的关系, 这个想法
174of kind of decoupling human experience, both from where it happens and the moment那种脱钩的人类经历, 从它发生的地方和瞬间
175in time that it happens.在时间,它发生。
176I think that we can create these experiences through hyper real photo我认为我们可以通过超真实的照片来创造这些经验
177realistic media that allow us to share the best of our experiences, the best of现实的媒体,使我们能够分享我们的最佳经验,最好
178who we are.我们是谁。
179I'm going to be very curious to see who's who can feel that right now.我将非常好奇地看到 谁能感觉到现在。
180My guess is that there's going to have to be lots of experiments and a lot of我猜,这需要 有很多实验和很多
181things are going to creep us out.事情会让我们毛骨悚然
182And maybe we'll find some things that are just absolutely incredible.也许我们会找到一些 绝对不可思议的东西。
183But I have an important question for you, which is how the hell do I control me但我有个很重要的问题要问你 我怎么控制我
184now?现在?
185Like, you've got me on video.喜欢,你有我在视频。
186What's to stop my me being misused across the internet now?什么能阻止我被滥用到互联网上?
187That's right.没错
188I think that as we kind of allow companies to create these我认为当我们允许公司创建这些
189realistic experiences as individuals, we need to be empowered to own our real作为个人,我们需要被赋予权力 拥有我们真正的
190world data, the data used to train the algorithms, and we need to control how世界数据 用来训练算法的数据 我们需要控制
191our photorealistic avatars are created and where they're used.我们的光现实化的造型 被创造出来 被使用的地方
192So to this extent, I was looking at kind of conventional current legal因此,从这个角度来说,我正在研究一种传统的当前法律。
193institutions to see what we could do to create new rights.以创造新的权利。
194So I created a photorealistic avatar of myself, submitted it to the U.S.于是我创造了一个真实的自我形象, 把它提交给美国。
195Copyright Office to see if they would register my copyright in it.版权局来查查他们是否要登记我的版权
196This is what the video looked like.这就是视频的样子。
197Here is the AI realistic version of myself, even if the appearance of this AI这是我真实的AI版本 即使这个AI出现
198representation of myself may change cosmetically or if I change my hair or add我代表自己可能变了 或换了头发或加了
199creative features, my intention is to create this AI version of myself that创造力,我打算创造这个AI版本的自我
200embodies the essence of who I am as a person under any circumstance.体现我作为一个人的本质 在任何情况下。
201Wow.珃
202So I think you have shown us what is going to be a repeated theme in this所以,我认为你已经向我们展示了什么 将是一个重复的主题 在这个
203conference, which is that future is going to be weird and wonderful at the same未来会变得奇怪和美妙
204time.时间。
205Quite what the balance is between those two, TBD, but this is a world where这两者之间的平衡是怎样的,TBD, 但这是一个世界,
206each of us is going to have to think differently about who we are and claim我们每个人都得 以不同的思维去思考 我们是谁并声称
207these rights.这些权利。
208What you're saying is that if people have this right, you can picture你说的是如果人们有这个权利 你可以想象
209a world where, for example, if a video goes viral on YouTube without your例如,如果一个视频在YouTube上病毒化,没有你
210consent, you'll be able to take it down because of some link back to this.同意了,你可以把它拿下来 因为一些链接回到这一点。
211That's right.没错
212I think the most important thing that we can do when we're talking我认为最重要的事情 我们可以做 当我们说话
213about data from the real world being able to power these things is that we关于来自现实世界的数据 能够驱动这些东西
214need to own property rights over the data.需要拥有对数据的所有权。
215We shouldn't sign it over to我们不该签到
216companies through terms of service.公司通过服务条款。
217We shouldn't give it away.我们不应该放弃它。
218If you如果你们
219fundamentally own it, then you can be in control and you're at the ground level基本上拥有它,然后你可以控制 并在地面层面
220of all of the economies and all of the use cases, but they're going to spin up所有的经济和所有的使用案例, 但是,他们要去旋转
221through history.通过历史。
222It's a lot, but we're on the way now.虽然很多,但我们现在在路上。
223Tom Graham, thank you so much for sharing this technology.汤姆·格雷厄姆 非常感谢你分享这个技术
224Thank you very much.谢谢
225And Sonny Bates, I am so sorry.还有桑尼·贝茨 我很抱歉
226Thank you so much.非常感谢
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