TED演讲：当真正开始倾听时，你会发现什么？
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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
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| 0:04 | I've been in love with music my whole life, both as a musician and as a listener. | 我一生都爱音乐,既是音乐家,又是听众. |
| 0:10 | But as a listener, sometimes songs feel a little like houses to me. | 但作为一个听众,有时歌曲 感觉有点像房子对我来说。 |
| 0:16 | Houses that you can only see from the street. | 只能从街上看到的房子 |
| 0:19 | You can stop and admire them from the outside. | 你可以停下来 从外面欣赏他们。 |
| 0:22 | You can say, wow, look, the architecture is amazing. | 你可以说,哇,你看,建筑是惊人的。 |
| 0:25 | You might be able to get a little peek inside through one of the windows. | 你也许能从窗户里偷看一眼 |
| 0:29 | But it's this thing of beauty that you have to appreciate from a distance because it's not yours. | 但这是你必须从远处欣赏的美丽事物,因为它不是你的. |
| 0:35 | And as a musician, when you put a song out into the world, | 作为音乐家 当你把一首歌放进世界 |
| 0:39 | it can sometimes feel like you're trapped in the backyard of this house that you built. | 有时会觉得你被困在 你建造的房子的后院里 |
| 0:44 | There might be people looking at it, but you never get the chance to show them anything inside. | 可能有人在看,但你从来没有机会 让他们看到里面的东西。 |
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| 1 | I've been in love with music my whole life, both as a musician and as a listener. | 我一生都爱音乐,既是音乐家,又是听众. |
| 2 | But as a listener, sometimes songs feel a little like houses to me. | 但作为一个听众,有时歌曲 感觉有点像房子对我来说。 |
| 3 | Houses that you can only see from the street. | 只能从街上看到的房子 |
| 4 | You can stop and admire them from the outside. | 你可以停下来 从外面欣赏他们。 |
| 5 | You can say, wow, look, the architecture is amazing. | 你可以说,哇,你看,建筑是惊人的。 |
| 6 | You might be able to get a little peek inside through one of the windows. | 你也许能从窗户里偷看一眼 |
| 7 | But it's this thing of beauty that you have to appreciate from a distance because it's not yours. | 但这是你必须从远处欣赏的美丽事物,因为它不是你的. |
| 8 | And as a musician, when you put a song out into the world, | 作为音乐家 当你把一首歌放进世界 |
| 9 | it can sometimes feel like you're trapped in the backyard of this house that you built. | 有时会觉得你被困在 你建造的房子的后院里 |
| 10 | There might be people looking at it, but you never get the chance to show them anything inside. | 可能有人在看,但你从来没有机会 让他们看到里面的东西。 |
| 11 | Inside a song, there are all these parts that get imagined and written and recorded | 在一首歌里, 都有这些部分 被想象,写和录制 |
| 12 | that are so full of thought and beauty. | 充满了思想和美丽 |
| 13 | But only the people who've made the song ever get to hear those pieces on their own. | 但只有这首歌的制作者才能自己听到这些作品. |
| 14 | All those pieces get smushed together in the final version that comes out. | 所有这些片段在最后版本中被一起冲出. |
| 15 | Whenever I put out a song, I was always a little sad that no one else was going to get to hear | 每当我放出一首歌, 我总是有点伤心, 没有人会听到 |
| 16 | the things that I had heard when I was making it. | 我做的时候听到的 |
| 17 | Let me show you what I mean. | 让我告诉你我的意思。 |
| 18 | Here's a clip from a song of mine. | 这是我一首歌的片段 |
| 19 | What's your experience when you listen to that? | 你听这个有什么经验? |
| 20 | You might like it, maybe. | 你可能会喜欢的,也许。 |
| 21 | Or you might hate it. | 或者你可能会讨厌它。 |
| 22 | Or you might say, I don't know, dude, it's 20 seconds of a song. | 或者你可能会说,我不知道,伙计, 这是20秒一首歌。 |
| 23 | What do you want from me? | 你想从我这里得到什么? |
| 24 | Which is fair. | 这很公平 |
| 25 | What I hear is impossible to expect anyone else to hear. | 我听到的不可能是别人听到的 |
| 26 | It's not just the cello part and the guitar part and the drum beat. | 不只是大提琴和吉他 还有鼓拍 |
| 27 | It's also all the things that I lived through in order for that music to exist. | 也是我为了让音乐存在而经历的一切 |
| 28 | So in 2014, I started a show to try and solve this distance | 所以在2014年,我开始一个节目 试图解决这个距离 |
| 29 | between the creator and the audience. | 在创造者和观众之间 |
| 30 | I interviewed musicians about one of their songs | 我采访了音乐家 关于他们的一首歌 |
| 31 | and then combined that with the different layers of music that make up that song. | 然后结合了构成这首歌的不同层次的音乐. |
| 32 | I thought this way, an artist could bring a listener in | 我想这样,一个艺术家可以带一个听众进来 |
| 33 | and give them a guided tour of this house they made. | 并引导他们去参观那座房屋。 |
| 34 | They could point to the foundation and say, this is how the song got started. | 他们可以指向基金会,说这首歌就是这样开始的。 |
| 35 | And then as more and more layers get built on top, | 然后随着越来越多的层层 建在顶端, |
| 36 | eventually the full song gets revealed. | 最终全曲被揭晓. |
| 37 | The show's called Song Exploder. | 节目名为"宋爆炸". |
| 38 | Song Exploder's a podcast and it's also a TV show that I adapted for Netflix. | 宋爆炸是播客,也是我为Netflix改编的电视剧. |
| 39 | And over the years, I've gotten to talk to some | 这些年来,我不得不和一些 |
| 40 | of the biggest musicians in the world about their work. | 世界上最大的音乐家 关于他们的作品。 |
| 41 | 比如Fleetwood Mac和U2,林-曼纽尔·米兰达,Alicia Keys, | |
| 42 | Billie Eilish, The Roots, 还有Yo-Yo-Yo Ma, 还有200多人。 | |
| 43 | At first, I was really looking at those isolated pieces of music | 一开始,我真的很看 那些孤立的音乐片段 |
| 44 | to do the work of revealing the inside of their respective houses. | 完成揭示各自房屋内部的工作。 |
| 45 | But as I was having conversations with them about their songs, something happened. | 但当我和他们谈论他们的歌曲时,发生了一些事情。 |
| 46 | I realized that there were rooms to be discovered | 我意识到有房间需要发现 |
| 47 | in the conversations themselves, doors that could be opened. | 在对话中,可以打开的门。 |
| 48 | And I started to wonder, could I try listening to people | 我开始想,我能试着听别人说话吗? |
| 49 | the way that I was trying to listen to music? | 我试图听音乐的方式? |
| 50 | When someone tells you something, just like with the song, | 当有人告诉你一些事情 就像那首歌一样 |
| 51 | there can be all these layers within it. | 里面可能有很多层层 |
| 52 | There can be all this context that you're missing | 你可能错过了这些背景 |
| 53 | as the person out on the street, outside of the house. | 在街上,在外边 |
| 54 | So to get inside, I had to listen for those moments and those clues | 所以,为了进去,我不得不听 这些时刻和那些线索 |
| 55 | where there was more to be discovered, | 那里还有更多要发现的 |
| 56 | where there was something below the surface of what was first presented to me. | 在那里,有东西 表面下,什么是第一次给我。 |
| 57 | So I borrowed from my music listening brain. | 所以我借我的音乐听大脑。 |
| 58 | And now when I'm in a conversation, this is what I try to do. | 而现在当我在谈话时, 这就是我试图做的。 |
| 59 | Be open to new ideas, stop multitasking, | 接受新思想 停止多重任务 |
| 60 | let the other person know that you're engaged, | 让别人知道你订婚了 |
| 61 | and do it without taking your focus away from them and turning it onto you. | 不要把注意力从他们身上移开,把它转向你身上。 |
| 62 | Because of making Song Exploder, | 因为让宋爆炸, |
| 63 | I now listen to a much wider range of music than I used to. | 我现在听的音乐比以前广泛得多。 |
| 64 | When I was younger, I used to actually pride myself on my music stoppery. | 当我年轻的时候,我曾经以我的音乐停止为傲。 |
| 65 | But nowadays, it just feels like I'm potentially | 但是现在,感觉我可能 |
| 66 | cutting myself off from hearing some great ideas. | 阻止我听到一些伟大的想法。 |
| 67 | And I think that's a prerequisite when it comes to listening to people, too. | 我认为这也是倾听人们的意见的先决条件。 |
| 68 | You have to go into it open-minded and curious and ready to learn something new. | 你必须走进去 开明和好奇 并准备学习一些新东西。 |
| 69 | Also, the instinct to multitask is so hard to turn off, | 而且,多任务的本能 很难关闭, |
| 70 | but it's so important that you do it. | 但它是如此重要 你这样做。 |
| 71 | When you're listening to music these days, | 这几天你听音乐的时候 |
| 72 | most of the time, it's something that we do passively. | 大多数时候,这是我们被动做的事情。 |
| 73 | It's in the background. | 于诸法中. |
| 74 | It's the soundtrack to something else that we're doing. | 这是我们在做的其他事情的音轨。 |
| 75 | And I hate to say it, but between our phones and our smartwatches | 我也不想说 但是在手机和智能表之间 |
| 76 | and just our own wandering thoughts, | 而只是我们自己徘徊的想法, |
| 77 | it's easy to get distracted, | 很容易被分心, |
| 78 | and we tend to listen to other people that way, too. | 我们也会那样听别人的话 |
| 79 | But you can't really get immersed if that's the case. | 但是,如果是这样的话,你不能真的被浸透。 |
| 80 | Imagine trying to listen to a song | 试想听一首歌 |
| 81 | while singing a different song in your head. | 在你的脑海中唱着不同的歌 |
| 82 | You can't do it, or you can't do it well, | 你不能这样做,或者你做不好, |
| 83 | and you can't fully appreciate what someone else is saying | 你不能完全理解别人在说什么 |
| 84 | if you're thinking about something else. | 如果你在想别的事 |
| 85 | I'm also a big believer in the power of non-verbal communication. | 我也非常相信非语言交流的力量. |
| 86 | Like, just a simple act of a nod is a way to let the other person know that you're engaged | 喜欢,只是一个简单的点头行为 是让别人知道你订婚的方法 |
| 87 | and also invites them to keep going and say more. | 还邀请他们继续说更多 |
| 88 | That kind of intentional, engaged silence makes space for them. | 这种有意的、主动的沉默为他们提供了空间。 |
| 89 | Sometimes, though, you do have to actually ask for more. | 有时候,虽然,你确实需要 要求更多。 |
| 90 | You have to draw them out. | 你必须把他们引出来。 |
| 91 | If you can ask for what's below the surface of what they just said, | 如果你能问他们刚才说的表面下面有什么 |
| 92 | you might unlock some door for them and invite them to go through it with you. | 你可以为他们打开一些门 并邀请他们和你一起走 |
| 93 | That also means turning off the instincts to talk about yourself. | 这也意味着放弃直觉来谈论你自己. |
| 94 | I used to think that this was actually the best way to show that I was really listening. | 我曾经认为,这其实是表明我真正在听的最好方法。 |
| 95 | Someone would tell me something, and I'd say, | 有人会告诉我一些事,我会说, |
| 96 | oh, man, you know, that reminds me of this thing that happened to me. | 哦,伙计,你知道的, 这让我想起 发生在我身上的事情。 |
| 97 | And then I would tell a whole story of my own. | 然后我会讲述我自己的故事 |
| 98 | But it's kind of like listening to half a song and then saying, | 但它有点像听 半首歌然后说, |
| 99 | you know, this part reminds me of this other song, | 这部分让我想起另一首歌 |
| 100 | and then turning that first song off and going and putting on some other song, | 然后把第一首歌关了 然后放上另一首歌 |
| 101 | which is also something I've done. | 这也是我做过的事 |
| 102 | But you can't get deeper if you lose the moment like that. | 但是,如果你失去这样的时刻,你就不能更深了. |
| 103 | So it's a challenge to your impatience and to your selfishness | 所以这是对你的不耐烦和自私的挑战 |
| 104 | to be engaged without making it about you. | 与你订婚而不谈恋爱 |
| 105 | OK, and so now to ignore the advice about talking about yourself, | 好吧,所以现在不理会 关于谈论你自己的建议, |
| 106 | I would like to talk about myself and tell you a little bit about me. | 我想谈谈我自己 和你谈谈我 |
| 107 | And that song that I played you a part of to hopefully illustrate what I'm talking about. | 我为你演奏的那首歌 希望能说明我在说什么 |
| 108 | Years ago, when I was making my first recordings, | 几年前,当我做 我的第一次录音, |
| 109 | I would play my songs over and over and over again in my bedroom. | 我会一遍又一遍地在我的卧室里演奏我的歌 |
| 110 | My music career wasn't really something I could talk about with my parents. | 我的音乐生涯并不是我能和我父母谈的 |
| 111 | They were hardworking immigrants whose dream for me had been to become a doctor or a lawyer. | 他们是勤奋的移民 他们的梦想是成为一名医生或律师。 |
| 112 | But every now and then, I would hear my mom humming one of my songs | 但我偶尔会听到我妈妈哼我的歌 |
| 113 | just to herself in the kitchen. | 只是自己在厨房。 |
| 114 | And that felt like some kind of unspoken approval. | 这感觉像是某种未言而喻的认可。 |
| 115 | And over the years, whenever I would hear my mom humming one of my songs, | 多年来,每当我听到我妈妈哼我的一首歌, |
| 116 | it made me so happy. | 这让我很高兴。 |
| 117 | Last fall, my mom passed away. | 去年秋天,我妈妈去世了 |
| 118 | And a few weeks after her funeral, | 在她的葬礼后几周 |
| 119 | I had a dream where I got to see her and talk to her and visit with her for a little bit. | 我做了个梦,在那里我见到了她,和她说话,和她一起拜访了一会儿. |
| 120 | And I woke up filled with longing and sadness, | 我醒来时充满了渴望和悲伤 |
| 121 | but also gratitude for this moment and this dream. | 也感谢这一刻和这个梦想。 |
| 122 | And I ended up writing a song about it. | 最后我写了首歌 |
| 123 | In the bridge, I stopped singing for a little bit, | 在桥上,我不再唱歌了 |
| 124 | and I just hummed a melody. | 我刚哼了首旋律 |
| 125 | I was thinking about my mom, | 我在想我妈妈 |
| 126 | and I wanted to try and represent her in the music in some way. | 我想试着在音乐中代表她 |
| 127 | One of the people who I talked to about the song while I was making it was Yo-Yo Ma. | 我当时在做这首歌的时候 和别人谈过的就是优婆塞 |
| 128 | I told him, this is what the song is about, | 我告诉他,这就是歌的内容, |
| 129 | and this is what the music is supposed to do in this part. | 这就是音乐应该做的 |
| 130 | And I asked him, do you think that the cello could represent my mom's voice? | 我问他 你觉得大提琴能代表我妈妈的声音吗? |
| 131 | And he listened to everything that I said, and then he played those notes. | 他听了我说的话 然后他弹了那些音符 |
| 132 | Okay, here's everything together again. | 好吧,这里的一切 再次在一起。 |
| 133 | So now, what's your experience when you listen to that from inside the house? | 所以,现在,你有什么经验 当你听 从房子里? |
| 134 | Every conversation has the potential to open up | 每一次谈话都有可能打开 |
| 135 | and reveal all the layers and layers within it, all those rooms within rooms. | 并揭示所有层层 里面,所有的房间。 |
| 136 | And personally, I hope that I can keep looking for those ways in | 我希望我能继续寻找这些途径 |
| 137 | so I can experience the depth and the richness of someone else's ideas | 这样我就能体验别人思想的深度和丰富 |
| 138 | every chance I get to hear them. | 我每一次都听到他们的声音 |
| 139 | For now, thanks for listening to mine. | 现在,谢谢你听我的。 |
| 140 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 141 | Was you | 是你吗? |
| 142 | You're a piece of a dream now | 你现在是个梦了 |
| 143 | Just a little too far | 只是有点太远了 |
| 144 | I can still hear your voice through | 我还能听到你的声音 |
| 145 | The door left ajar | 门左转 |
| 146 | But can't see where you are | 但看不见你在哪里 |
| 147 | TV | 电视 |
| 148 | You'd fall asleep too | 你也会睡着 |
| 149 | In bed | 睡觉 |
| 150 | You sat and looked at me | 你坐着看着我 |
| 151 | I said I'd miss you | 我说我会想你的 |
| 152 | You said I'd know | 你说我会知道的 |
| 153 | The pictures that I've framed | 我画的照片 |
| 154 | Don't tell the stories in between | 不要在两者之间讲故事 |
| 155 | The moments that contain | 包含的时刻 |
| 156 | Who you were really | 痷琌街 |
| 157 | To me | 给我 |
| 158 | You're a piece of a dream now | 你现在是个梦了 |
| 159 | Just a little too far | 只是有点太远了 |
| 160 | And I can still hear your voice through | 我还能听到你的声音 |
| 161 | The door left ajar | 门左转 |
| 162 | I guess that's how it is now | 我想现在就是这样了 |
| 163 | The only place you'll appear | 你唯一会出现的地方 |
| 164 | We'll have to meet in some shadow | 我们要在阴影下相遇 |
| 165 | Between there and here | 这里和这里之间 |
| 166 | But it's so good to see you | 但见到你真好 |
| 167 | It's so good to see you | 很高兴见到你 |
| 168 | See you again | 再见 |
| 169 | You're a piece of a dream now | 你现在是个梦了 |
| 170 | Just a little too far | 只是有点太远了 |
| 171 | And I can still hear your voice through | 我还能听到你的声音 |
| 172 | The door left ajar | 门左转 |
| 173 | And I guess that's how it is now | 我想现在就是这样了 |
| 174 | The only place you'll appear | 你唯一会出现的地方 |
| 175 | Meet in some shadow | 在阴影中相遇 |
| 176 | Between there and here | 这里和这里之间 |
| 177 | Thank you | 谢谢 |
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