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【双语音+文稿】（完整版）（NASA）局长贾里德·艾萨克曼2026 ALL-IN 峰会访谈：NASA 与美国太空探索的新纪元 p01 英文版 (P1)

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时间	英文	中文
0:00	Ignition sequence start.	点火序列开始。
0:04	All engines on fire.	所有引擎都开火了
0:06	It's good to have an aviator and astronaut in charge.	有飞行员和宇航员负责是件好事.
0:09	Jared Eisenberg.	贾里德·艾森伯格.
0:10	The new NASA administrator.	新任NASA管理员.
0:12	NASA还是很热。
0:13	Humankind will not be contained to planet Earth indefinitely.	人类不会被无限期地控制在地球上。
0:17	In the next giant leap capabilities, that's nuclear power and propulsion.	在下一个巨大的跃进能力,这就是核电和推进.
0:20	That's what extends America's reach farther into the solar system.	这也是美国更深入太阳系的原因
0:23	That's what guarantees the third race will never be in question.	这保证了第三场比赛永远不会受到质疑.

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序号	英文	中文
1	Ignition sequence start.	点火序列开始。
2	All engines on fire.	所有引擎都开火了
3	It's good to have an aviator and astronaut in charge.	有飞行员和宇航员负责是件好事.
4	Jared Eisenberg.	贾里德·艾森伯格.
5	The new NASA administrator.	新任NASA管理员.
6	NASA还是很热。
7	Humankind will not be contained to planet Earth indefinitely.	人类不会被无限期地控制在地球上。
8	In the next giant leap capabilities, that's nuclear power and propulsion.	在下一个巨大的跃进能力,这就是核电和推进.
9	That's what extends America's reach farther into the solar system.	这也是美国更深入太阳系的原因
10	That's what guarantees the third race will never be in question.	这保证了第三场比赛永远不会受到质疑.
11	Please welcome Jared Isaacman.	请欢迎贾里德·艾萨克曼
12	Good morning, everyone.	大家早上好,我们走
13	It is an absolute honor to be here at All In.	绝对荣幸能来All In
14	We are living through an extraordinary moment in history, aren't we?	我们正经历着历史上一个非凡的时刻,不是吗?
15	It took just 65 years from Orville and Wilbur's first flight	离奥维尔和威尔伯的首飞只有65年
16	to Neil and Buzz walking on the surface of the moon.	尼尔和巴斯在月球表面行走
17	Now, it's been 57 years since Apollo 11, and for a while there,	现在阿波罗11号已经57年了有一段时间
18	pace of progress hasn't been all that inspiring,	进步的步调并没有那么鼓舞人心
19	but look at what is on the horizon right now.	看看现在的地平线
20	We got artificial intelligence, quantum technologies, robotics,	我们有人工智能量子技术机器人
21	additive manufacturing, the promise of fusion energy,	添加剂制造,核聚变能量的承诺,
22	biotech to heal the disabled, autonomous transportation,	利用生物技术来治疗残疾人、自主交通,
23	this whole abundance thing everyone's talking about,	大家都在谈论这个丰盛的事
24	all converging in the years ahead is beyond what most people can comprehend.	在未来的岁月里,人们的聚落都超出了大多数人所能理解的范围。
25	Our world will fundamentally change, how we live, how we work,	我们的世界将发生根本变化我们的生活方式工作方式
26	how we fight wars, how we reach out and touch the stars.	我们如何战斗如何伸手触摸星星
27	But we are not alone on this journey.	但是,我们并非独自踏上这一旅程。
28	We are living through a great power competition.	我们正在经历一场巨大的权力竞争。
29	Other nations understand the opportunities that can elevate nations	其他国家理解可以提升国家地位的机会
30	and change civilizations, and perhaps nowhere are the possibilities,	改变文明,也许没有可能
31	the competition and the consequences of getting it wrong more apparent	竞争和让错误更明显的后果
32	than in the ultimate high ground above us.	而不是在我们最高的地盘上
33	Now, at NASA, we are doing things differently and we are regaining our swagger	现在,在NASA,我们正在做不同的事情,我们正在恢复我们的滑稽
34	{\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}然后把赢的钱放到董事会上
35	But absent this president, absent this geopolitical competition	但是没有总统,没有地缘政治竞争
36	and the very real possibility of losing the second space race,	和失去第二次太空竞赛的真正可能性,
37	I suspect very little would have changed.	我怀疑会改变多少
38	For too long, resources at the world's most accomplished space agency	长久以来,世界上最有成就的空间局的资源
39	were spread everywhere, trying to make everyone happy.	到处都是试图让每个人都快乐
40	Much of it was through external imposition, but plenty of it was self-inflicted.	大部分是外部强加的,但很多都是自残的。
41	We partnered for the sake of partnerships, oftentimes becoming a drag on the mission	我们为了伙伴关系而合作,经常成为任务的障碍
42	instead of accelerating it.	而不是加速它。
43	As a result, we have the Orion spacecraft that we can't inject into low lunar orbit	因此,我们有了猎户座飞船我们不能注入低月轨道
44	like we did during Apollo, and the prior administration canceled	就像我们在阿波罗时期所做的, 和前政府取消了
45	the Mars sample return mission that was on track to cost more than an aircraft carrier.	火星样本返回任务正在轨道上成本超过航空母舰。
46	We created programs that were too big to fail, too costly to truly succeed	我们创建了大到不能失败的节目,太昂贵不能真正成功
47	in the hope that they would survive administrations,	希望他们能幸存下来
48	the results being a rocket that was designed when China was predominantly operating	结果是中国主要运行时设计的火箭
49	coal-fired locomotives and now becoming operational	燃煤机车,现已投入使用
50	as China operates 25,000 miles of high-speed rail	由于中国运行着25,000英里的高速铁路
51	and is just a few years away from their own Apollo 11-like moment.	距离他们自己的阿波罗11号一样的瞬间只有几年时间了
52	Core competencies and tens of thousands of the NASA workforce	核心能力和数万名美国航天局工作人员
53	were rented, outsourced, or lost, which turned what should have been	被出租、外包或丢失,这改变了本来应该
54	months' worth of progress into years at tremendously greater cost.	数月的进步以极高的代价。
55	Eventually, too little was left to do things the right way,	最后,太少了做正确的事情,
56	the way NASA showed the world how to do it in decades past.	美国国家航空航天局过去几十年如何向全世界展示
57	So we invented this whole dream state-as-a-service thing,	所以我们发明了这个梦想状态服务的东西,
58	forgoing the playbook of success and shifting the impossible burden onto others.	放弃了成功的游戏手册,把不可能的负担转移到别人身上。
59	The result is that our moon rocket is in fact less efficient than Saturn V	结果是我们的月球火箭事实上比土星五号更低效
60	at converting launch mass into payload headed for the moon,	将发射质量转换为飞向月球的有效载荷,
61	with more time between the Artemis 1 and Artemis 2 mission	在阿耳忒弥斯1号任务和阿耳忒弥斯2号任务之间有更多的时间
62	than all 12 of the Gemini missions that were flown 60 years before.	比60年前的12次双子座任务都要多
63	A lunar space station that, whenever it may have been delivered,	月球空间站,无论何时交付,
64	put our astronauts in a position to look down on the most desirable lunar real estate	让我们的宇航员能够俯瞰最理想的月球房地产
65	instead of operating on the surface and occupying it.	而不是在水面上操作和占领
66	One X-plane that wasn't flying very much, and billions spent on failed nuclear programs	一架飞行不多的X型飞机花费在失败的核计划上
67	that had not left the laboratory since 1965.	从1965年起就再也没有离开过实验室
68	Now, during the first space race, we were slow out of the gate,	在第一次太空比赛中我们从门外走得很慢
69	but NASA ultimately ran up the score.	但美国航天局最终还是领先了
70	The second will be much closer than it ever needed to be.	第二个会比以前更接近
71	Since becoming the administrator of NASA last year, we have made a different choice.	自从去年成为美国航天局的行政主管以来,我们做出了不同的选择。
72	We are not going to try and make everyone happy.	我们不打算让每个人都快乐。
73	We are not going to spread every penny across every district	我们不会把每一分钱都分散到每个区
74	or partner with every nation just to try and make everyone happy	或与每一个国家合作试图让每个人都快乐
75	or because that's how people incorrectly believed it always was.	或者因为人们总是如此错误地相信
76	I am certainly not here for the money to favor companies,	我当然不是来为公司赚钱的
77	for the title, the notoriety, the politics.	为标题,名声,政治。
78	I'm not here to be your VC, to entertain your dream,	我不是来做你的越共来娱乐你的梦想的
79	or invent new markets if it detracts in the slightest way	或创造新市场,如果它稍有减损
80	from the missions that we have been entrusted to achieve on behalf of the American people.	代表美国人民完成的使命
81	You can take those conversations up with the Department of Commerce, if you like.	如果你愿意你可以跟商务部谈谈
82	I'm here to execute on President Trump's national space policy	我是来执行川普总统的国家太空政策的
83	to align and focus resources to work alongside and unleash	调整和集中资源,以配合和释放
84	the best this nation has to offer, from the NASA workforce, to our industry, to our partners,	从美国宇航局的员工到我们的行业以及我们的合作伙伴
85	and deliver the world-changing outcomes, the kind of outcomes that put Neil and Buzz on the moon,	并带来改变世界的结果那种结果让尼尔和巴斯上月球,
86	the kind of outcomes that inspired many of you to be in this room in the first place.	那种结果激励你们中的许多人来到这间屋子
87	This is a very reinvigorated and energized NASA,	这是一个非常充满活力和活力的NASA,
88	and America is back in the business of sending our astronauts to the moon.	而美国又回到了送宇航员登月的事业中.
89	Now, Artemis II was just the beginning.	现在,阿耳忒弥斯二世只是开始.
90	Those four heroic astronauts, recent recipients of the Congressional Space Medal of Honor,	这四位英勇的宇航员最近荣获国会太空荣誉勋章
91	rode 8.8 million pounds of thrust to near-Earth escape velocities,	骑着880万磅的推力到近地逃生速度,
92	traveled farther into space than any humans in history around the moon,	远比历史上任何人类在月球周围旅行
93	and back home safely, and that was just the opening act.	安全回家,这只是开场白。
94	We are not waiting three years to fly again.	我们不会等三年再飞了。
95	We are not turning every rocket into a work of art.	我们不会把每枚火箭都变成艺术品。
96	Artemis III is already being assembled right now at a pace many doubted was possible just months ago.	阿耳忒弥斯三世现在正在集结中,其速度令人怀疑。
97	Before year end, we intend to roll out to Launch Complex 39B for a tanking test	年底,我们打算推出39B号发射舱进行油炸试验
98	and send a message to our workforce, our industry, and our rivals overseas.	并给我们的员工,我们的产业, 和我们的对手海外。
99	NASA is back, and we are not going to sit idly by.	NASA回来了我们不会袖手旁观
100	We are not just a procurement organization.	我们不仅仅是一个采购组织。
101	We are going to do the extremely demanding work	我们要做非常艰巨的工作
102	and achieve our objectives safely, responsibly, and urgently	安全、负责和紧急地实现我们的目标
103	because that is what meeting the moment requires.	因为这是满足时机的要求。
104	Now, in the summer of 2027, Artemis III will launch on SLS into low-Earth orbit	现在,在2027年夏天,阿耳忒弥斯三世将在SLS上发射进入低地轨道.
105	and rendezvous with lander test vehicles from Blue Origin and SpaceX	并与来自蓝色起源和SpaceX的着陆器试验车会合
106	in what will be a remarkable display of the three most powerful rockets and spacecraft in the world.	将展现出世界上三种最强大的火箭和航天器。
107	We will test interoperability and show what a future multi-launch campaign	我们将测试互操作性并展示未来的多发射运动
108	can actually look like.	其实可以看起来像。
109	What we learn will inform the uncrewed test landings that follow,	我们所学到的将会告知接下来的无人试验着陆
110	and then Artemis IV in 2028 when American astronauts return to the lunar surface,	2028年美国宇航员返回月球表面时,
111	and this time to stay.	而这一次留下。
112	In parallel, we are establishing humanity's first outpost on another world,	与此同时,我们正在另一个世界建立人类的第一个前哨站,
113	a moon base, and this time we are leveraging the NASA playbook of decades past.	月球基地这次我们正利用美国国家航空航天局的游戏本
114	We are not jumping directly to the dream state.	我们不会直接跳到梦境
115	We will launch missions on a near monthly cadence and undertake the science of survival.	我们将执行近月任务并进行生存科学
116	That means autonomous and crude mobility, surface improvement, in-situ resource utilization	这意味着自主和粗糙的机动性、表面改善、就地利用资源
117	and manufacturing, logistics, habitability, power, communications,	物流、可居住性、电力、通信、
118	and all the science instruments the mass budget affords.	和所有科学工具大众预算提供。
119	We will bring it to you live in HD on the moon base website,	我们会在月球基地网站的HD里把它带给你
120	and we will leave no doubters this time.	这次我们会毫不怀疑
121	We go for the scientific and the economic potential.	我们追求科学和经济潜力。
122	We go to learn about the formation of our solar system,	我们去了解太阳系的形成
123	but primarily because the lunar south pole where the water ices	但主要因为月球南极水冰
124	is going to be the technological proving ground for where we inevitably go next, which is Mars.	将是技术的证明在那里我们不可避免地去, 这就是火星。
125	In 2028, NASA will leave decades and billions of dollars of failed nuclear programs behind	2028年,美国航天局将留下数十亿美元失败的核计划
126	and launch SR-1 Freedom, a 100 kilowatt fission reactor	并发射SR-1自由号100千瓦裂变反应堆
127	that will finally get America underway on nuclear power.	最终美国将走上核能之路
128	The mission will transit Mars and release Skyfall,	任务将穿越火星释放天降
129	which carries three Ingenuity class helicopters	搭载三架天才级直升机
130	and using ground penetrating radar to scout subsurface ice and future landing sites.	利用地面穿透雷达探测地下冰层和未来着陆点。
131	This will mark the beginning of the nuclear NASA,	这将标志着核国家航空航天局的开始,
132	pivoting our workforce and facilities back to doing the near impossible missions	支持我们的员工队伍和设施回到几乎不可能完成的任务
133	with no obvious business case.	没有明显的商业案例。
134	What no company, no agency or nation is presently capable of accomplishing,	目前没有哪个公司、任何机构或国家能够完成,
135	but that extend humanity's reach farther into the outer solar system.	但是这把人类延伸到了外太阳系
136	And just like during the Apollo era,	就像阿波罗时代一样
137	the technology that we pioneer to get there will surely benefit life back here at home.	我们率先获得的技术一定会让家里的生活受益
138	There will be lots of nuclear missions, SR-2, SR-3, SR-4.	会有大量的核任务,SR-2,SR-3,SR-4.
139	Alongside our industry partners, we will push the boundaries of high temperature materials,	与我们的工业伙伴, 我们将推进高温材料的界限,
140	more efficient power conversion, more reduced radiator mass,	更高效的动力转换, 更降低的散热器质量,
141	and higher performance electric propulsion	和更高性能的电推进
142	as we visit some of the most interesting moons, like Enceladus, Europa, and Titan.	当我们参观一些最有趣的月球时比如恩斯拉杜斯,欧罗巴和泰坦
143	These are worlds with oceans, with complex chemistry and perhaps the ingredients for life,	这些世界有海洋, 复杂的化学,也许生命的成分,
144	a reminder that some of the greatest discoveries in human history,	提醒我们人类历史上的一些最伟大的发现
145	they may be waiting for us in our own backyard.	他们可能在我们的后院等我们
146	We could answer the question, are we alone, and are we alone even in our own solar system,	我们可以回答这个问题, 我们独自一人, 和我们单独在我们的太阳系,
147	let alone the galaxy and universe around us?	更别说我们周围的银河系和宇宙了?
148	Someday, a chemically augmented nuclear power transfer vehicle,	某天,一种经过化学强化的核电传动载体,
149	part of an American Starfleet supported by an armada of starships and other spacecraft	美国星舰的一部分由星舰和其他飞船组成的舰队支援
150	will carry humans to the surface of Mars	将人类带到火星表面
151	and bring them home safely to tell us about it, and not just once.	把他们安全带回家来告诉我们不只是一次
152	We are on this great destiny of human exploration, and we are not turning back.	我们正处在人类探索的伟大命运之中,我们不会回头。
153	Along the way, we are going to do the other things.	沿途,我们将做其他的事情。
154	Commercial satellites are being printed off at a rate that will help us affordably understand	商业卫星的印刷速度将帮助我们理解
155	the only planet that we presently inhabit.	我们目前唯一居住的星球
156	Our home star and space weather, and better predict weather,	我们的母星和太空气象以及更好的天气预测
157	and perhaps respond to wildfires and natural disasters better,	也许对野火和自然灾害的反应更好,
158	freeing up more resources to build the exquisite flagship science missions	腾出更多资源,以建设精致的旗舰科学任务
159	that only NASA can undertake.	只有美国航天局能承担
160	Like, for example, the nuclear-powered Dragonfly octocopter.	比如说核动力飞龙章鱼
161	It's powered by a 2 kilowatt MMRTG converting to just 100 watts of electricity,	它的动力是2千瓦的MMRTG 转换成100瓦的电力,
162	barely better than an old light bulb, but it will journey to Saturn's moon of Titan in 2028.	几乎不比一个老灯泡好, 但是它将在2028年驶向土星的泰坦月.
163	Europa Clipper will arrive at Jupiter's icy moon in 2030,	欧罗巴克利珀特将在2030年到达木星的冰雪月亮,
164	and our great space telescopes, like James Webb and Hubble,	和我们伟大的太空望远镜, 像詹姆斯韦伯和哈勃,
165	will soon be joined by Roman, and with her nearly 300 megapixel wide-field instrument	很快,罗曼会加入, 和她近300兆像素宽野乐器
166	and JPL-built coronagraph, in the moments ahead, Roman will open her eyes,	和JPL建造的日冕, 在未来的时刻,罗曼会打开她的眼睛,
167	and in that instance, she will see more of the universe	那样的话她就会看到更多的宇宙
168	than any scientific instrument we've ever put in space before.	比我们以前在太空里放过的任何科学仪器
169	Her surveys will seek to...	她的调查会寻求...
170	It is a cool telescope.	是个很酷的望远镜
171	Her surveys will seek to understand the mysteries of dark energy and dark matter,	她的调查将寻求理解暗能量和暗物质的奥秘,
172	and reveal tens of thousands of worlds that are hidden behind distant stars.	揭示数以万计的世界隐藏在遥远的恒星后面
173	Roman will return images so large and in such detail,	罗马人会归还如此庞大的图像如此详细
174	there is no screen on Earth large enough to display them.	地球上没有足够大的屏幕来显示它们。
175	Now, other missions, like NeoSurveyor, will find asteroids and comets that can threaten Earth,	现在,其他任务,如NeoSurveyor, 会发现小行星和彗星可以威胁地球,
176	while next generation telescopes in development will seek out habitable planets orbiting other stars.	而正在研制的下一代望远镜则将寻找环绕其他恒星运行的宜居行星.
177	The last few decades have shown us that the future in space that we all imagined as children	过去几十年向我们表明,我们儿童时代所想象的空间未来
178	will never be realized if they're perpetually funded by taxpayers.	如果他们永远得到纳税人的资助,就永远不会实现。
179	NASA will do everything within reason to support an orbital and perhaps even lunar economy someday,	NASA会尽一切可能支持轨道经济甚至有一天月球经济
180	building on the proven markets of launch observation and communication.	利用已证实的发射观测和通信市场。
181	Whether the next frontier is in orbital data centers or commercial space stations	下一个前沿是轨道数据中心还是商业空间站
182	or on orbit manufacturing, regolith resource extraction, asteroid mining,	在轨道制造、Regolith资源开采、小行星开采、
183	or industries that none of us have even imagined yet.	或我们还没想到的行业
184	Now, it's not NASA's job to force an economy, but we will do all we can to ignite one as we pursue our missions.	现在,美国航天局的任务不是强迫经济, 但我们会尽力在执行任务时点燃经济。
185	And in the service of the first A in NASA, we are rebuilding our X-plane fleet.	为了为美国宇航局的首个甲级联赛服务我们正在重建我们的X飞机队
186	The X-59 is researching quiet supersonic flight, but it's just the beginning	X -59正在研究静音超音速飞行但这只是开始
187	as NASA recommits to flight tests and works alongside industry	美国航天局再次承诺进行飞行试验,并与工业界合作
188	to push the boundaries of airframe and propulsion design.	以推进机体和推进设计的界限。
189	It will not be long before NASA is flying once again as high	太空总署很快就会飞得这么高
190	and as fast as we have from decades past and then even more.	和我们过去几十年一样快,然后甚至更多。
191	But if this frontier is going to expand as rapidly as we believe it will be,	但是,如果这个边界会像我们相信的那样迅速扩张,
192	we will have to cultivate the talent to lead it.	我们必须培养才能领导它。
193	The space domain deserves an institution focused on that future	空间领域值得有一个侧重于这一未来的机构
194	and call it what many already have and should, a Starfleet Academy.	并称它为许多人已经和应该拥有, 星舰学院。
195	That is why the President established the Commission for the United States Space Academy,	因此,总统设立了美国空间学院委员会,
196	a NASA-led federal academy to prepare the next generation of astronauts, scientists,	美国航天局领导的联邦学院培养下一代宇航员科学家
197	engineers, technicians, operators, pilots, and leaders.	工程师,技术人员,操作员,飞行员,以及领导者.
198	And just as the need for Space Force became clear as the domain evolved,	空间力量的需求随着域的发展而变得清晰
199	we should be equally forward-looking about preparing those who will build the Moon base,	我们同样应该向前看让那些将建造月球基地的人做好准备
200	operate nuclear-powered spacecraft, command missions to Mars,	运行核动力飞船火星指挥任务
201	ensure our national security, and create industries in orbit we can barely imagine today.	确保我们的国家安全并在轨道上创造工业我们今天几乎无法想象。
202	And there is no time to waste.	而且没有浪费时间。
203	I want you all to think about where you were when Artemis II astronauts	我想你们都想想阿耳忒弥斯二号宇航员时你们在哪里
204	sent back those images from the Moon.	从月球上发回的图像
205	Who did it touch?	谁碰的?
206	Your parents, your friends, your colleagues, your children?	你的父母、朋友、同事、孩子?
207	Now I want you to imagine astronauts climbing down the ladder.	现在我要你想象宇航员从梯子上爬下去
208	Only this time.	只有这次
209	It is not grainy black and white footage from July 20, 1969.	从1969年7月20日起,
210	It's high-definition color streaming live to billions of people all around the world.	这是高清晰度的彩色流线活到全世界数十亿人。
211	The astronaut steps foot on the lunar surface.	宇航员踏上月球表面.
212	The camera pans up.	摄像头的锅。
213	And the flag on the spacesuit is not American.	而太空服上的旗帜并非美国国旗.
214	There will be no footnote explaining that we spent more.	不会有脚注解释我们花了更多钱。
215	No disclaimer that our architecture was complicated.	不能否认我们的建筑很复杂
216	No one will care how many studies we completed, how many meetings we held,	没有人会在乎我们完成了多少研究,我们举行了多少会议,
217	what congressional districts benefited, who all the all-star lobbyists were for their hardware,	国会各区从中获益多少全明星的说客都是为了他们的硬件
218	who served on the committee, or how many times we slipped the schedule	是谁在委员会任职, 或多少次我们滑了时间表
219	for what someone thought was a perfectly reasonable reason.	因为有人认为是完全合理的理由
220	The world will just see who got there.	世界会看到谁到了那里。
221	China intends to put their astronauts on the Moon by 2030.	中国打算在2030年前将其宇航员送上月球.
222	Its robotic missions are targeting the Shackleton crater of the lunar South Pole next year.	其机器人任务的目标是明年月球南极的沙克尔顿陨石坑.
223	And there are only so many good parking spots in that neighborhood.	附近只有这么多好停车场
224	And they intend to occupy them.	他们打算占领他们。
225	They are working with Russia on their own nuclear-powered Moon base.	他们正与俄罗斯合作在自己的核动力月球基地。
226	And to be clear, China will accomplish what the Soviets never could during the first space race.	更明确的是,中国将完成苏联在第一次太空竞赛中从未完成的事业.
227	They have a very achievable two-launch architecture.	它们有一个非常可以实现的双发射结构.
228	The national will and capabilities to put their astronauts on the surface of the Moon.	将自己的宇航员置于月球表面的国家意志和能力.
229	And if America has not returned, despite the decades of promises	如果美国没有回来, 尽管几十年的承诺
230	and the more than 100 billion invested, the shockwave will be felt around the world.	超过1000亿的投资, 冲击波将遍及全世界。
231	Our allies will notice.	我们的盟友会注意到的
232	Our adversaries will notice.	我们的对手会注意到的
233	Every nation deciding whose technology to buy, whose standards to adopt,	每一个决定购买何种技术的国家,
234	whose security guarantees to trust, and whose vision of the future to follow will take notice.	他们的安全保证将受到信任,他们对未来的展望将受到注意。
235	And perhaps most importantly, our children will notice.	也许最重要的是,我们的孩子会注意到。
236	That is why we must remain focused on the objectives that matter.	正因为如此,我们必须继续把注意力集中在重要的目标上。
237	Why NASA was established in the first place.	美国航天局最初为什么成立.
238	There is no time anymore for lobbying against America's interests or further tolerating the status quo.	现在已经没有时间进行反对美国利益的游说或进一步容忍现状.
239	Only extreme ownership, competence, and action.	只有极端的自主性、能力和行动。
240	Those of us inspired by the pioneers and heroes of decades past know they set the bar high.	我们当中那些受几十年先驱和英雄启发的人知道,他们把酒吧设得很高。
241	But we do not honor them by living forever on what they accomplished.	但是,我们不尊重他们,因为他们永远生活在他们的成就之上。
242	This is our time to pick up where they left off, return and never give up the Moon again,	我们该回到他们离开的地方永远不要放弃月球
243	and then set our sights on Mars and beyond.	然后把视线定在火星和火星以外
244	And none of this will be accomplished by NASA alone.	单靠美国航天局是无法完成这一切的。
245	We have the support of President Trump.	我们得到了川普总统的支持.
246	We have Congress.	我们有国会。
247	We have a clear mandate in the national space policy.	我们在国家空间政策中有明确的任务。
248	But it will take brilliant entrepreneurs, scientists, engineers, our allies, and Americans across the country	但是,这需要杰出的企业家,科学家,工程师, 我们的盟友,和美国人在全国各地。
249	who still believe that great nations can do great things.	他们仍然相信伟大的国家可以做伟大的事情。
250	Because our children will either inherit the confidence of a nation still capable of the extraordinary	因为我们的孩子要么会继承一个仍然有能力的民族的信心
251	or the memory of one that used to be.	或旧时的记忆
252	That responsibility, that choice belongs to all of us.	这一责任,这一选择属于我们所有人。
253	And I believe when history looks back on this moment, let it record that America did not hesitate any longer.	我相信当历史回顾这一时刻时, 让它记录美国不再犹豫。
254	We did not allow the bureaucracy, the complacency, the waste in action,	我们不允许官僚主义、自满和浪费行动,
255	or fear of failure to constrain what we could accomplish.	或害怕无法限制我们所能完成的任务。
256	We chose to go.	我们选择了去。
257	And we went.	我们去了。
258	Thank you.	谢谢
259	All right.	好吧,我们走。
260	Let's f***ing go.	我们走
261	Let's go!	我们走!
262	All right, everybody.	好了,大家来
263	To America.	去美国
264	Where do you want me?	你想让我去哪儿?
265	Oh, right on the couch.	哦,就在沙发上。
266	I was commenting backstage on how easy it is for NASA to come and do speeches given the content,	我在后台评论美国宇航局来做演讲有多容易,
267	the capacity to show visuals like this.	显示这种视觉的能力。
268	Can you imagine like housing and urban development trying to do a presentation?	你能想象住房和城市发展尝试做一个演示吗?
269	No, we have unbelievable material to work with.	不,我们有难以置信的材料工作。
270	I'm thankful every day that I don't lead the IRS or social media.	我每天都感激我没有领导国税局或社交媒体
271	Yeah, right.	没错
272	Can we talk about...	我们能谈谈...
273	We don't have a lot of time, so I know I want to move our way through the universe.	我们时间不多了,所以我知道我想在宇宙中前进
274	But can we start with the moon?	但我们能从月亮开始吗?
275	There's kind of this case that NASA makes about the moon being the starting point for getting to Mars.	美国宇航局认为月球是进入火星的起点
276	But is the moon a potentially viable economy on its own?	但月亮本身是否是一个潜在可行的经济?
277	Is there an industry to be built on the moon?	月上有建业么.
278	Is there an ongoing set of operations that could be established on the moon that makes sense	月球上是否有一套可以建立的连续作业
279	beyond just kind of testing equipment before we go to Mars?	除了去火星前的测试设备以外?
280	Yeah, maybe, right?	是啊,也许,对不对?
281	So I think we are extremely fortunate.	因此,我认为我们非常幸运。
282	We've been gifted a moon three days away to test out everything we need on this great adventure of discovery, right?	我们三天后就被送上了月球来测试我们在探索中需要的一切,对吗?
283	I mean, this is where you want to go to really dial in power.	我的意思是,这就是你想真正拨动电源的地方。
284	Your spacesuits, it's taken us decades to build replacement spacesuits from the Apollo era.	你的太空服我们花了几十年时间建造阿波罗时代的太空服
285	Let's test that out on the moon.	让我们在月球上测试一下
286	Habitation modules, certainly in-situ resource manufacturing, robotics, right?	栖息地模块,肯定就地资源制造,机器人,对不对?
287	I mean, you know, look, EVAs are fantastic.	我的意思是,你知道,你看, EVA是惊人的。
288	Astronauts bouncing around on the moon is going to be highly inspirational.	在月球上飞翔的宇航员将会非常鼓舞人心
289	That's like one of the last things you should do when you have a moon base,	这就像你应该做的最后一件事当你有一个月球基地,
290	is send somebody outside in that extremely dangerous environment, let robotics do it.	让机器人来做
291	And in order to accomplish all of this, you have to send an extraordinary demand signal to industry.	为了完成这一切, 你必须向业界发出一个非凡的需求信号。
292	I mean, over the next four years, we're talking dozens of landers, dozens of rovers,	我的意思是,在接下来的四年里, 我们谈论数十个登陆者, 数十个骑手,
293	lots of in-situ resource manufacturing experimentation.	许多现场资源制造实验。
294	You're giving industry all the opportunity in the world to figure out how to unlock value from the lunar regolith, right?	你给业界全世界所有的机会找出如何解锁价值从月球石,对不对?
295	But I can't guarantee it, right?	但我不能保证,对不对?
296	And that's my point on the Department of Commerce.	这就是我对商务部的看法。
297	They have a whole space commerce office that can work through that.	他们有一个完整的空间商业办公室可以通过它。
298	I am going to make sure that NASA can master the skills necessary to go to Mars for its scientific potential.	我会确保NASA能够掌握去火星发挥科学潜力所需的技能
299	We'll put radio telescopes on the far side to inspire the next generation.	我们将把射电望远镜放置在远方,以激励下一代.
300	And along the way, it ignites a lunar economy.	沿途,它点燃了月球经济.
301	That's fantastic.	这太棒了。
302	But it costs an awful lot to get there, an awful lot to extract resources.	但是要到达那里需要花很多钱需要大量的资源
303	Sorry, one second.	对不起,等一下。
304	And then we have to map the South Pole to figure out where we're going, is that right?	然后我们得绘制南极图找出我们要去哪里,是吗?
305	And that's part of this Promise mission?	这就是承诺任务的一部分?
306	That's kind of the next big mission for the moon?	这就是下一个月球大任务?
307	So I'm glad you brought up Promise.	所以我很高兴你提起承诺
308	So we have mapped the lunar South Pole.	所以我们绘制了月球南极图。
309	There are only so many good landing spots.	只有这么多好的着陆点
310	And what do I mean by that?	这是什么意思?
311	I mean, surface area of the moon is like the size of Africa.	我的意思是,月球的表面面积就像非洲的大小。
312	The South Pole of the moon is like Washington, D.C.	月球的南极就像华盛顿特区一样.
313	And there's only so many good craters that have these permanently shaded regions, which, by the way,	并且只有这么多的好陨坑有这些永久的阴影区域, 顺便说一句,
314	I mean, that is a harsher environment than Mars itself.	我的意思是,这是一个更严酷的环境比火星本身。
315	That's where the water ice is.	即水冰处.
316	But the crater cliffs can also give you near eternal access to light for solar power.	但陨坑的悬崖也能让你接近永恒的获得太阳能的光线
317	So there's only so many good landing spots.	所以只有这么多好的着陆点
318	And you think about when like a vehicle the size of Starship comes down a lunar surface.	你想想当星舰的大小像一辆车一样从月球表面下来时
319	Believe me, that's going to blast out a little bit of crater sand debris.	相信我,那会喷出一点点的坑砂碎片。
320	So really limited parking spots on that.	上面的停车位非常有限
321	Promise is very awesome because Promise is a radioisotope powered rover that we built as a spare,	承诺是非常好的,因为承诺是一个放射性同位素动力漫游车,作为备用,
322	essentially for the two rovers, Perseverance and Curiosity, are on Mars right now.	基本上,对于两支旋转车, 恒和好奇心, 现在在火星上。
323	And just to give you a sense, this thing is the size of like a Jeep.	让你感觉一下这东西就像吉普车一样大
324	So we have some PU-238 that's decaying right now.	所以,我们有一些PU238 正在腐烂。
325	You only get so much life out of it.	你只得到这么多的生活出来。
326	We want to take that, put it on Promise, and send it to the moon.	我们想要这个,把它放在承诺上, 并把它送到月球。
327	And it can go in and start prospecting in those permanently shaded regions that, I mean,	它可以进入并开始在那些永久遮蔽的区域进行勘探, 我的意思是,
328	almost any other hardware would die in.	几乎任何其它硬件都会死在其中.
329	It's a very good way to make use of taxpayer dollars that have largely already been spent.	这是利用已经基本用完的纳税人元的很好的方法.
330	And Jared, you were informing me last night and educating me on this specific southern region of the moon	贾里德,你昨晚告诉我并教育我这个特定的南方地区月球
331	being absolutely critical for us to get to first versus China.	对中国来说绝对是关键
332	Why is it so critical that we get there before China, and what's it going to take to do that?	为甚么如此紧要,我们先到中国,又何须如此?
333	And just as a follow-up to that, what was the state of NASA when you got there?	之后,美国宇航局的情况如何?
334	Because it did feel like they, since the space shuttle program, haven't been super focused or effective.	因为自从航天飞机计划以来感觉他们并不是很专注或有效
335	But correct me if I'm wrong.	但如果我错了就纠正我
336	Yeah, I mean, just to be clear, you're talking about some of the best talent in this nation shows up to work at NASA every day.	是的,我的意思是,只是说清楚, 你说的是一些在这个国家最好的人才出现在美国航天局工作的每一天。
337	And they want to change the world in air and space.	他们想改变世界的空气和空间。
338	And for a very long time, everybody was trying to run NASA other than the people themselves that show up to work there.	在很长一段时间里,每个人都在试图管理NASA, 除了那些在那里工作的人。
339	I mean, like you heard from my remarks, you know, let's make everyone happy.	就像你从我的话里听到的那样让所有人都开心点
340	Let's spread our resources to every congressional district.	把资源分散到每个国会区
341	Let's collect 25 different flags to partner on the next mission that takes something that should cost a couple billion,	让我们收集25种不同的旗帜在下一个任务上搭档, 它需要的东西应该花费数十亿,
342	which is very cool, like going and getting samples back from Mars that could lead to the most consequential discovery in human history	这很酷,就像从火星取回样本可能导致人类史上最显著的发现
343	and layer a bunch of other people on and make it cost more than a carrier, and then it gets canceled right now.	然后把一堆其他人弄上去让它比载体更贵然后现在就取消
344	So NASA is back in charge now, right?	NASA现在又掌权了对吧?
345	We are in a space race.	我们在太空竞赛中
346	People are giving us the latitude to do what we need to do.	人们给了我们做我们需要做的事的自由度。
347	And as a result, we are extremely focused on the president's national space policy, return to the moon, build a base, get underway nuclear power and the other things.	因此,我们极其关注总统的国家空间政策,重返月球,建立基地,开始核电等。
348	And the workforce is responding well, and I'm grateful alongside them.	员工们反应良好我很感激他们
349	So we are in a different state today.	因此我们今天处于不同的状态。
350	Unfortunately, we don't have the time necessary we'd like because years were lost in this now new space race.	不幸的是,我们没有必要的时间,我们希望,因为已经失去了多年在这个新的太空竞赛。
351	Now, the South Pole, the moon again, we've been gifted a moon three days away to again master those skills to go to Mars.	现在,南极,月亮又来了, 我们得到一个三天外的月亮来再次掌握那些去火星的技能。
352	There's only so many good spot parking spots.	只有这么多的好停车点。
353	The Chinese and the Russians know that, right?	中国人和俄国人都知道,对吧?
354	They were going to launch a mission a couple of weeks ago right to the Shackleton Ridge, which, you know, maybe it was mechanical.	他们几周前就准备去沙克尔顿山脊可能是机械的
355	Maybe it was weather related or maybe they were smart enough to know that if they actually did do it,	也许这和天气有关也许他们足够聪明知道如果他们真的这么做了
356	they probably would ignite one hell of a fire and urgency in us.	他们可能会点燃我们心中的火和急迫
357	But that would have taken up one of like a couple critical parking spots.	但这会占用一个像几个关键停车点。
358	They're going to build a base there.	他们要在那里建立一个基地。
359	They partner with Russia.	他们与俄罗斯合作。
360	They're going to have a fission power fission reactor there.	他们在那里会有一个裂变动力裂变反应堆.
361	And they're going to do the exact same things we are, which is interact with the water ice and get very good.	他们将做同样的事情, 与水冰相互作用,变得非常好。
362	And then where are they going next?	然后他们接下来要去哪里?
363	The third space race.	第三次太空竞赛.
364	They're going to go to Mars.	他们要去火星了
365	And then they'll have that massive Neil Armstrong like moment that will send a message around the world.	然后,他们会有巨大的尼尔·阿姆斯特朗像那一刻, 将发出一个信息全世界。
366	And we are very committed to not letting that happen.	我们非常致力于不让这种情况发生。
367	What is the big technological leap that you have to make from the current course and speed to actually make Mars more realistic?	从现在的航线和速度上,你必须实现什么技术大跃进,使火星更加现实?
368	Is it is it propulsion and thrust is the main vector?	它是推进和推力是主要矢量吗?
369	So I think there's a I think there's a couple things there.	所以我觉得有件事我想有几件事
370	Look, robotics are going to be critical in all of this.	听着机器人在这一切中都很重要
371	So if you if you chose a path that was purely like chemical propulsion of which, you know,	如果你选择了一条纯粹像化学推进的路, 你知道,
372	vehicles like Starship are going to be incredible at that.	像星际飞船这样的车辆会是不可思议的。
373	Well, you will no doubt have the means to send astronauts to Mars.	你无疑有办法送宇航员去火星
374	They've already figured out habitability a long time ago.	很久以前他们就已经知道是否适合居住了
375	And you're talking very comparable velocities, whether you're going to the moon or Mars in that regard.	你所说的速度非常相似, 无论是去月球还是火星。
376	The hard part is how do you come back?	难的是你怎么回来?
377	Right.	对
378	You're going to need to make propellant on Mars to do so.	你得在火星上制造推进剂
379	And, you know, one solution to that to say is, well, I'll have an army of robots that will do it.	你知道,一个解决办法是, 好吧,我会有一支机器人队伍来完成它。
380	And I'll have football field size solar panels.	我会有足球场大小的太阳能板。
381	And then the robots can dust them off from all the dust storms that will happen.	然后机器人可以把它们从将要发生的尘暴中抹去。
382	And then you'll make your own propellant and you'll come home.	然后自己做推进剂然后回家
383	The hard part is it's really it's really challenging to do that under one atmosphere and one G here on Earth.	困难的是,在地球上一个大气层和一个G的环境下这样做确实很困难。
384	I mean, you can see how many people show up at like stage zero at, you know, at Starbase to launch a mission or.	我的意思是,你可以看到有多少人出现在像阶段0, 你知道,在星基地启动一个任务或。
385	And by the way, that is the right way to kind of win the war, to put lots of mass on the surface.	顺便说一句,这是赢得战争的正确方式, 将大量质量放在表面。
386	NASA can help that by kind of pivoting, by stop doing what what industry is already doing really well	NASA可以帮助它通过一种支点, 通过停止做工业已经做的很好
387	and invest in that next giant leap capabilities that have no obvious business use case today, which is fission power.	并投资下一个巨大的跃进能力,今天没有明显的商业用途,即裂变动力。
388	And then you can have chemically augmented any peace spaceships transfer vehicles and go to and from Mars.	然后,你可以在化学上增强任何和平飞船转移飞行器,然后进出火星。
389	And you don't need to refuel them until they come back.	在他们回来之前你不需要加油
390	而你的加油是Krypton或xenon。
391	You're not having to make propellant on the surface of Mars.	你不必在火星表面制造推进剂
392	That, to me, is how NASA works alongside industry to invest in the capabilities that are necessary for American leadership in space.	对我来说,这就是美国航天局如何与业界合作, 投资美国在太空的领导力所必须的能力。
393	And by the way, those are the capabilities you want to go to like Saturn's moon of Enceladus, to go to Titan, to go to Europa, where you have you have oceans on two of those moons that that could have still life in them.	顺便说一下,这些是你们想要去的能力喜欢土星的月球恩斯拉杜斯, 去泰坦, 去欧罗巴, 在那里,你们有海洋在其中的两颗月球上, 这些月球上可能还有生命。
394	We don't know.	我们不知道。
395	How do you convince these incredible learned people to work for NASA versus SpaceX or other private space companies now in a world where there's so many ways in which you can contribute?	如何说服这些有学问的人在太空总署和SpaceX 或其他私人太空公司之间工作? 在一个你能够做出很多贡献的世界里?
396	So great.	真不错
397	I'm glad you asked that because it's a double down on nuclear.	我很高兴你这么问因为这是核子的双倍下降。
398	But right now we don't have a recruiting problem initially.	但现在我们起初没有招募问题
399	I mean, we take one percent of the intern applications that go into our pathway program, which guarantee him a job at NASA.	我的意思是,我们把1%的实习生应用进入我们的路径程序, 它保证他在NASA的工作。
400	Then the question is, can you retain him?	那么问题是你能留住他吗?
401	And if you're doing exactly what SpaceX, Blue Rocket Lab, Stoke, ULA and others are doing in industry, except you're doing it off, you know, 50 year old shuttle hardware that, again, is not as efficient for missions like going to the moon as Saturn five w	如果你正在做SpaceX,蓝火箭实验室,斯托克,ULA等人在工业中正在做的事情, 除了你正在做,50年的太空梭硬件, 这对任务来说,同样不像土星五号那样高效。
402	You're going to lose that workforce.	你会失去那劳动力的
403	So what do you need to do?	那你们需要做什么?
404	You know, when we have those near impossible breakthroughs and there is a business case like there certainly is for launch where you can be one customer, many you hand it off to industry and you pivot.	你知道,当我们有这些几乎不可能的突破, 有一个商业案例像有当然是启动,在那里,你可以是一个客户, 许多人你把它交给工业和你的支点。
405	And that's how you retain talent that can only do these type of missions at NASA, which is the nuclear NASA.	这就是你如何留住人才才能在NASA完成这种任务, 也就是核国家航空航天局。
406	As our one is just the beginning.	因为我们的一个只是开始。
407	That is our nautilus.	这是我们的鹦鹉螺。
408	There will be a grand fleet of nuclear powered space.	将有一支庞大的核动力空间舰队。
409	Stay on the frontier.	留守边疆.
410	You need to constantly keep pivoting to the next new thing.	你需要不断向下一个新事物倾斜
411	Can you explain just just really briefly a primer on how nuclear works for generating thrust?	你能简单解释一下核电如何产生推力吗?
412	Yeah, sure.	当然
413	So actually you can just think of a lot of the like, say, Starlink satellites that you'd have up right now that use, you know, hauler ion thrusters right now.	所以,实际上你可以想到很多类似, 比如,星际链接卫星你会有现在,你知道的, 牵引离子推进器。
414	They're generating electricity through solar power and then they're using through electromagnetic forces.	他们通过太阳能发电,然后通过电磁力发电.
415	They're they're they're ionizing either Krypton or xenon.	他们要么是克里普顿要么是克尼农
416	And and then just basically accelerating it out of the thruster, which gives you very, very high, you know, exhaust velocity.	然后基本上加速它从推进器中走出来, 这给你非常,非常高,你知道,排气速度。
417	So it's extremely efficient, very low thrust.	因此它极有效率,极低的推力.
418	And you can use that propellant for a very long time.	你可以长期使用推进剂。
419	And in space, the faster the molecule shoots out the back, the more thrust it generates for the for the craft to move.	在太空中,分子射出后部的速度越快,它产生的推力就越大,使飞行器可以移动.
420	Yeah, I mean, it's just very low mass that you're actually it's very low mass flow, but highly efficient.	是的,我的意思是,它只是非常低的质量, 你实际上它是非常低的质量流, 但效率很高。
421	Right.	对
422	So very, very efficient, high, you know, exhaust velocities.	非常,非常高效,很高,你知道, 排气速度。
423	The idea, though, is where that breaks down is the farther you get away from the sun.	但是,这个想法是,它破解的地方是离太阳越远的地方。
424	So once you get out towards Jupiter, I mean, solar effectiveness is negligible.	所以,一旦你向木星走去, 太阳的效用是微不足道的。
425	Right.	对
426	So what you're using is like a the thermal energy from a nuclear reactor.	你使用的是核反应堆的热能
427	So one hundred kilowatts will scale it up to two fifty.	一百千瓦将提升到两百五十千瓦
428	Who knows?	谁知道呢?
429	Maybe megawatt class.	也许是兆瓦级的
430	Right.	对
431	You're going to want to run that reactor as hot as you possibly can.	你会想运行反应堆尽可能热,你可以。
432	So that's your high temperature materials.	这就是你的高温材料。
433	And then you're going to convert it through like a closed Brayton cycle power conversion unit into electricity.	然后把它转换成一个闭合的布雷顿循环动力转换装置
434	And that electricity is then going to power those same thrusters that you would see on starlings.	然后电源会为星座上的推进器提供动力。
435	It's just they're scaled up.	只是他们放大了
436	Right.	对
437	They're like 12 kilowatt and 14 kilowatt, 25 kilowatt thrusters.	它们像12千瓦和14千瓦,25千瓦的推进器.
438	What is NASA's budget?	NASA的预算是多少?
439	And if you could have your druthers, what would it be?	如果你可以拥有你的Druthers,它会是什么?
440	I'm incredibly supportive of it.	我难以置信地支持它。
441	Look, I've said it.	你看,我已经说了。
442	I've said it many times right now.	我已经说了很多次了
443	Like NASA does not have a top line problem.	太空总署没有顶级问题
444	Like we are bad capital allocators and have been for a long time.	就像我们是糟糕的资本分配者并且已经很久了
445	And a lot of that is based on NASA choices.	很多都是基于NASA的选择。
446	It's based on what other people forced us to do.	这是基于别人逼我们做的事
447	And that's change.	这就是改变。
448	We have twenty five billion dollars.	我们有250亿美元。
449	I mean, there's got how many how many entrepreneurs are in this room?	我的意思是,这里有多少企业家?
450	Start up.	开始
451	Twenty five billion is a lot of money.	二百五十亿是大财.
452	You can build some pretty incredible hardware.	你可以建造一些非常不可思议的硬件。
453	You're one of the few entrepreneurs that actually has built a profitable company taking it public.	你是为数不多的企业家之一实际上已经建立了一个盈利的公司把它公之于众。
454	You showed a picture of the Blackbird up there and you sure that's the Blackbird.	上面有黑鸟的照片你肯定就是黑鸟
455	Well, OK. What was that picture that you showed up there?	好吧,没关系。你在那里出现的照片是什么?
456	Like I said, NASA is getting back in business, flying high and fast again.	正如我所说,美国航天局正在恢复业务,飞得又高又快。
457	I mean, that doesn't seem like a space vehicle.	看上去不像太空飞行器
458	It seems like a Earth air vehicle.	看起来像地球航空飞行器
459	Yeah.	对
460	So the first day in NASA is our is our aeronautics portfolio.	因此,在NASA的第一天是我们的航空组合。
461	And what we've contributed to over the decades, you may not realize this.	我们过去几十年的贡献你可能没有意识到这一点。
462	Look, when you go see an F-22 fly at an air show and wow you, the fly by wire technology was us.	你看,当你去看到一个F -22飞在一次空中表演,哇你, 通过电线技术的苍蝇是我们。
463	The thrust vectoring technology was us.	推力传动技术就是我们。
464	NASA has been contributing to breakthroughs in aeronautics, both civil, commercial and national security applications for a long time.	美国国家航空航天局长期以来一直在推动航空学的突破,包括民用、商业和国家安全应用。
465	And again, kind of similar to the same theme over the years.	再说一遍,这几年来有点类似于同一个主题。
466	We've been forced to spend our aeronautics budget on like subsidizing high TRL efforts from big prime contractors, an engine that's 40 years old.	我们被迫把航空预算花在补贴大承包商的 TRL 高额工作上, 这引擎已有40年历史了。
467	They want to squeak three percent more fuel efficiency out of it, get NASA to pay for it.	他们想把燃料效率提高3% 让美国宇航局支付
468	I'm like, are you kidding?	开玩笑吧?
469	There is no way we are doing that.	我们不可能这样做。
470	You can underwrite that investment yourself for competitive reasons.	你可以为了竞争的理由自己担保投资
471	You know what I want to do?	你知道我想做什么吗?
472	I want to get back to the radical airframe and engine designs like we were always supposed to do.	我想回到激进的机体和引擎设计就像我们一直应该做的
473	And you're getting a little bit of a taste for that on this.	你对这个有点品味
474	Tell us about the importance of having a human on these ships when we go to the moon, when we go to Mars,	告诉我们,当我们去月球的时候, 当我们去火星的时候,
475	versus if optimists figure these humanoid robotics are ready, why would we risk a human life in these incredibly dangerous environments?	如果乐观主义者认为这些人造机器人准备好了我们为什么要冒生命危险?
476	Is it ego?	是自负吗?
477	Is it we're trying to prove a point to have humans in the loop on these?	我们是不是想证明人类有这个圈子?
478	Or should we just be sending robots or it's our it's our destiny, right?	或者我们只是送机器人或者这是我们的命运,对不对?
479	I mean, the same reason why we we cross the oceans and seas and climb the mountains, this is who we are.	我的意思是,同样的原因我们跨越海洋攀登山脉, 这就是我们是谁。
480	Would have many people stopped pause from the discourse of our daily lives to look at those astronauts go around the moon on Artemis to if they weren't humans?	很多人会停止暂停我们日常生活的谈话看着那些宇航员绕着月球在阿耳忒弥斯, 如果他们不是人类的话?
481	I don't think so.	亦不见.
482	Now, don't get me wrong.	别误会我
483	We are going to need robotics.	我们需要机器人。
484	And there are some environments that just whether it's the radiation that we can only do uncrewed, you know, robotic missions.	有一些环境仅仅是辐射, 我们只能做无染色,你知道的,机器人任务。
485	But we can we can go to the moon as we've done before with our astronauts.	但我们可以去月球就像我们以前和宇航员一样
486	We can go to Mars and we can continue on outward and robotics will absolutely play a critical role in that journey.	我们可以去火星我们可以继续外向机器人在旅途中绝对会发挥关键作用
487	What about then just like the autonomous navigation systems?	那像自动导航系统那样呢?
488	You talked about fly by wire.	你说用电线飞
489	I mean, we still see even just like last week, the the incident with Amazon Air.	我的意思是,我们仍然看到甚至像上周, 亚马逊航空的事件。
490	Now, this is civil aviation, but the overrun is ridiculous that that that air mode was pretty shocking to the people.	现在,这是民航, 但是这种过度的占领是荒谬的, 那个空气模式对人民来说是相当令人震惊的。
491	I think how do we push better and safer technologies and the more obvious solutions, even if that may actually disintermediate human involvement?	我认为,我们如何推动更好和更安全的技术以及更明显的解决方案,即使这实际上可能使人类参与失去媒介性?
492	Well, just say that NASA has been playing a role with air traffic, safety and modernization for a long time.	说说美国航天局在空中交通、安全和现代化方面长期发挥着作用
493	It was NASA that pioneered the autonomous ground collision avoidance software.	是NASA率先推出自动地面碰撞避免软件.
494	So, I mean, it's saved countless lives of fighter pilots pulled too many G's.	所以,我的意思是,它拯救了无数的战斗机飞行员的性命拖了太多的G's。
495	They black out the point.	他们忽略了重点。
496	The nose of the aircraft pointed the ground.	飞机的鼻子指向地面。
497	The aircraft recognizes it and safely recovers it.	飞机认得它并安全回收.
498	That was NASA work.	这是NASA的工作。
499	But I will.	但我会的。
500	I mean, to your point, and we are obviously very involved as you think about a world that's going to have who knows, like millions of drones flying around,	我的意思是,就你的观点而言,我们显然非常参与当你想到一个世界谁知道, 像数百万无人机飞来飞去,
501	delivering us medicine and other things like we have to work very closely with the FAA on that.	给我们送药和类似的东西我们必须非常密切地与FAA合作
502	But I will tell you, we are thinking about, you know, AI and autonomous applications within the missions we're designing right now.	但我会告诉你,我们正在思考,你知道,AI 和自主的应用在我们现在设计的任务。
503	Like one mission going to Venus, Da Vinci, it will not last long in that high pressure environment.	就像去维纳斯的一次任务,达芬奇, 它不会在高压环境中持续多久。
504	We are going to only have so much time to gather as much information as we can to update kind of the trajectory of the vehicle.	我们只有这么多时间收集尽可能多的信息来更新车辆的轨迹
505	This is not interesting.	这不好玩。
506	Disregard.	不顾.
507	This is interesting.	这很有趣。
508	I'm turning in that direction.	我朝那个方向转
509	We've already tested this with some of our rovers on Mars.	我们已经用火星上的一些骑手测试过了
510	And in my last dying breath, this is what I choose to send back to the scientists on Earth to understand this environment.	在我的最后一口气中, 这就是我选择送回地球的科学家们来了解这个环境。
511	And that's just one step towards a direction that will inevitably include more autonomy in our crude and uncrewed spacecraft.	这只是朝着一个方向迈出的一步, 它将不可避免地包括更多的自主性在我们的粗糙和无缝航天器。
512	And how do you think about allocation of capital resources, Jared, to some of the scientific discovery, the observational systems,	贾里德,你如何看待资本资源的分配在一些科学发现, 观察系统,
513	future platforms for observational for deep space research?	未来深空研究观测平台?
514	Is there a view in your mind it should be a 5% of budget?	你是否认为应该占预算的5%?
515	Like how do you think about rationalizing where we go with the spend there?	比如说,你觉得我们花在什么地方怎么样?
516	Yeah, I mean, I would say right now, science is approximately, call it a third of NASA's budget.	是的,我的意思是,我现在会说, 科学是大约,称之为美国航天局预算的三分之一。
517	We recently reorganized, but your main mission directorates right now are human space exploration,	我们最近重组了但你们的主要任务部门现在都是人类太空探索
518	which covers both the great work we're doing in the International Space Station as well as missions to, for example, the moon and building a moon base.	它既涵盖我们在国际空间站所做的伟大工作,也涵盖对月球和建造月球基地等任务。
519	You have your research technology mission directorate, which is shouldering most of the nuclear NASA effort.	你有你的研究技术任务局, 它正在承担大部分核美国航天局的努力。
520	And then you have your science mission directorate.	然后你有你的科学任务局。
521	And how I think about this is like you have to take advantage of commercial industry right now.	我的想法是,你现在必须利用商业。
522	Like, again, there's no one would doubt that launch observation communications are real services where NASA is one customer of many.	同样,没有人会怀疑发射观测通信是真正的服务 NASA是众多的客户之一
523	You've got all these great companies that are printing out satellites again for Earth observation, whether it's for national security reasons or otherwise,	你们有这么多伟大的公司再次为地球观测打印卫星无论是出于国家安全原因还是其他原因
524	like leverage it for agriculture, leverage it for Earth sciences, give them the instruments if necessary, license it to them,	如农业杠杆,地球科学杠杆, 必要时给他们仪器,许可给他们,
525	free up resources to do what industry is not going to want to take on, which is building a nuclear powered octocopter to go to Saturn's moon of Titan.	释放资源做工业不愿承担的事也就是建造一个有核动力的八面体
526	So free up as much research as we can to do that.	因此,我们尽可能多地释放研究。
527	And I would always prioritize getting new missions out there to unlock the secrets of the universe versus the researchers.	我总是会优先考虑让新的任务在那里解开宇宙对研究者的秘密
528	If we get the data, there'll be plenty of brilliant people at institutions around the country that will want to analyze it.	如果我们得到数据, 就会有很多优秀的人在全国各地的机构想要分析它。
529	But what's the point if you can't launch those next mission?	但是,如果你不能启动这些下一个任务有什么意义?
530	And as we wrap up, can we watch the video of the helicopters on Mars and you just tell us about the timelines to this becoming reality for us?	当我们结束的时候,我们能不能观看火星上的直升机的视频而你告诉我们实现这个现实的时间表?
531	Oh, absolutely.	当然
532	Yeah.	对
533	So here it is coming in.	所以,它来了。
534	There it is.	就是这样
535	Yeah.	对
536	I mean, how cool is this?	我的意思是,这有多酷?
537	I mean, I'm telling you, you can't do this at HUD or IRS.	我的意思是,我告诉你, 你不能做到这一点在HUD或国税局。
538	Imagine IRS putting out a video like this.	想象一下国税局放出这样的视频
539	I only made the Irish joke because I know.	我开玩笑是因为我知道
540	Here's the auditor.	审计师来了
541	I mean, it is.	我的意思是,这是。
542	It is really incredible.	这真是不可思议。
543	So what's this?	这是什么?
544	What's the status of this this program?	这个节目的情况如何?
545	So we tested one ingenuity on our last rover mission to Mars.	所以我们在最后一次火星巡航任务中测试了一种智慧
546	It did fantastically well.	表现得很好
547	I mean, can you imagine this is near vacuum, by the way, on Mars atmosphere?	我的意思是,你能想象这是接近真空,顺便说一句,火星大气层?
548	You know, fractional that are that are flying around.	你知道,分层的,是飞来飞去。
549	Now we're going to send three of these with ground penetrating radars, which I think is just awesome.	现在我们要用地面穿透雷达发送三个, 我认为这真是太棒了。
550	But most importantly, how it got there, it got there under nuclear power.	但最重要的是,它是如何到达那里, 它得到了核电。
551	True fission powered 100 kilowatt spacecraft that flew by Mars and released it.	真裂变为100千瓦飞船提供动力,飞过火星后将其释放.
552	This will launch in twenty eight.	28腹秨
553	We believe the it's it's approximately a year before the the helicopters will get there.	我们认为直升机要到那里大约一年了
554	We're still doing some some trades, but absolutely extraordinary mission and the start of many more.	我们仍然在做一些交易, 但绝对非凡的任务和更多的开始。
555	I mean, again, think about it.	我的意思是,再次,考虑一下。
556	There is so much we can learn on the moons within our own solar system.	在我们自己的太阳系中,在月球上我们可以学到很多东西。
557	Some really shocking discoveries are just waiting for us in our own backyard.	一些非常令人震惊的发现只是等待我们在我们自己的后院。
558	We're going to test pilot the Blackbird.	试飞黑鸟号.
559	That's not the Blackbird.	那不是黑鸟
560	We have a lot of talented folks.	我们有很多有才华的人
561	Hey, Jared, you you mentioned China at all levels of the organization.	嘿,杰瑞德,你提到中国在组织的各级。
562	Exactly.	没错
563	Including the head of the organization.	包括组织负责人.
564	Quite a pilot.	相当的飞行员。
565	I know we've got to wrap, but you mentioned China and Russia collaborating together.	我知道我们得收尾但你提到中国和俄罗斯合作
566	Just wanted to double click on that.	只是想双击一下
567	What are their capabilities?	他们的能力是什么?
568	Russia can't even take Kiev and like they've been at a war for four years.	俄罗斯甚至不能占领基辅,就像他们四年来一直在打仗一样.
569	Are they capable of getting to space and doing anything of material?	他们能到达太空并做任何材料吗?
570	I mean, I mean this genuinely.	我的意思是,我是认真的。
571	Please come back.	请回来。
572	But then China is copying a lot of what you don't have to listen to your mouth.	但后来中国大量抄袭你不需要听的口语.
573	This is a serious question.	这是一个严肃的问题。
574	China is copying a lot of what Elon's doing in real time.	中国大量抄袭伊隆实时所作.
575	Yes.	对
576	And what's their actual capability if we assume Russia is up against it and they're broke?	如果我们假设俄罗斯反对,他们破产了他们的实际能力是什么?
577	And am I correct that Russia is up against it and they're broke?	难道我说俄罗斯反对,他们破产了吗?
578	I would just say, I mean, look, obviously have a great appreciation for the history of the Russian and Soviet space program.	我只是说,我的意思是,你看, 显然,非常赞赏俄罗斯和苏联的太空计划的历史。
579	I mean, like I said in my remarks, they came out of the gate hot for, you know, astronaut in orbit for spacewalk.	我是说,正如我在讲话中所说的, 他们从大门出来,热的,你知道的,宇航员在轨道上的太空行走。
580	They've done a lot of great things and they contribute to us to contribute with us today and collaborate on the International Space Station.	他们做了很多伟大的事情,他们为我们贡献了今天与我们一起作出贡献,并在国际空间站上进行合作.
581	But yes, they have a conflict and they're prioritizing resources there.	但是,是的,他们有冲突他们正在优先资源在那里。
582	The Chinese are an incredible rival in space right now.	中国人现在在太空中是一个不可思议的对手.
583	Yes, they don't have the same reusable launch capabilities that SpaceX and others have.	是的,它们并不像SpaceX和其他人一样具有可重复使用的发射能力.
584	But what they do put in space, even if they brute force it there with hyper gall powered thrusters or hyper gall powered rockets akin to like Titan two of decades past, what goes in space is good.	但是他们把什么放在太空里, 即使他们野蛮地用高胆量的推进器或高胆量的火箭强迫它,就像二十年前的巨人一样, 在太空里的东西是好的。
585	And I think there were some pretty interesting developments that came out of AFA today that our secretary of Air Force and others in the Space Force said that enlightened.	我认为今天AFA出现了一些非常有趣的进展, 我们的空军秘书和太空部队的其他人说,这是开明的。
586	I think the general public about how contested that environment is the bottom line is the Chinese are extremely good in space right now.	我认为大众对于环境是底线的争议,
587	You couple that with some Russian capabilities on nuclear power.	你和俄国核电公司一样
588	They will return to the moon and they will get to the moon and they will build a base on the South Pole.	他们将返回月球,到达月球,并在南极建立基地.
589	And where would we be if we didn't have SpaceX in relation to China?	如果我们没有SpaceX 和中国的关系,我们会在哪里?
590	I mean, SpaceX is our I mean, they're they're incredible.	我的意思是,SpaceX是我们的我的意思是,他们是不可思议的。
591	I mean, they're our most important launch partner.	我是说他们是我们最重要的发射伙伴
592	We can't send astronauts to and from the space station without them.	我们不能让宇航员离开太空站
593	We can't have down mass of our science experiments from the space station without them.	没有它们,我们无法减少空间站的科学实验质量。
594	The Nancy Grace Roman telescope that's going out to pursue the secrets of the miss of the universe was launched on a Falcon heavy not that long ago.	Nancy Grace Roman望远镜正在探索宇宙小姐的秘密发射在不久前的猎鹰重机上
595	We are fortunate there's a lot of great companies in commercial space right now.	我们很幸运商业空间现在有很多伟大的公司
596	But I mean, the United States would be seriously challenged in the in the high ground of space without their capabilities.	但是,如果没有能力,美国在太空的高地将面临严重挑战。
597	Jared, I'm not a huge fan of government, but I think NASA plays one of the most important roles for humanity that no individual organization outside of government can play.	贾里德,我不是政府的一个大粉丝, 但我认为NASA扮演着人类最重要的角色之一, 政府以外的任何组织都不能扮演。
598	I cannot think of a better person to lead it.	我无法想象一个更好的人来领导它。
599	I think you're an inspiration to so many.	我认为你激励了这么多人
600	Absolutely.	当然
601	And I truly honestly respect your service that you've provided to this country and to the world.	我真诚地尊重你为这个国家和世界所做的贡献。
602	We're so lucky to have you.	我们很幸运有你。
603	Thank you for being here.	谢谢你能来
604	Grateful every day.	每日恩报.
605	Thank you all.	谢谢大家
606	Thank you, Dave.	谢谢你,戴夫。
607	I hope we get your book.	我希望我们能拿到你的书
608	Thank you.	谢谢
609	Thanks for coming.	谢谢你能来
610	Thanks, man.	谢谢
611	Great.	不错

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