梅根•苏塞克斯公爵夫人：为什么野心是她的底色（下）
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| 0:00 | Like how successful she is, but also translating knowledge from the court and being dedicated | 像她有多成功, 但也翻译知识 从法庭和奉献 |
| 0:06 | and all the things to another avenue. | 以及通往另一条路的一切 |
| 0:09 | It doesn't mean that you have to stay in one lane lane for your whole life. | 这不代表你一生都得呆在一条车道里 |
| 0:12 | It means that you can translate those skills somewhere else. | 这意味着你可以在别的地方翻译这些技能. |
| 0:14 | That's probably part of the magic. | 这可能是魔法的一部分。 |
| 0:16 | But she told me years ago, a lie can't live forever, eight years, a long time, but not | 但她几年前告诉我 一个谎言不能永远存在 8年,很长一段时间 |
| 0:22 | forever. | 永远 |
| 0:23 | So how do you walk the line between owning your own narrative and feeding the frenzy? | 所以,你如何走的线 介于拥有自己的叙述 和喂养疯狂? |
| 0:28 | Because again, when you have a business, you need to go out and promote it. | 因为再次,当你有生意的时候,你需要出去推广. |
| 0:31 | You need to go and do, you know, whatever it is that you might need to do. | 你需要去做,你知道, 不管你需要做什么。 |
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| 1 | Like how successful she is, but also translating knowledge from the court and being dedicated | 像她有多成功, 但也翻译知识 从法庭和奉献 |
| 2 | and all the things to another avenue. | 以及通往另一条路的一切 |
| 3 | It doesn't mean that you have to stay in one lane lane for your whole life. | 这不代表你一生都得呆在一条车道里 |
| 4 | It means that you can translate those skills somewhere else. | 这意味着你可以在别的地方翻译这些技能. |
| 5 | That's probably part of the magic. | 这可能是魔法的一部分。 |
| 6 | But she told me years ago, a lie can't live forever, eight years, a long time, but not | 但她几年前告诉我 一个谎言不能永远存在 8年,很长一段时间 |
| 7 | forever. | 永远 |
| 8 | So how do you walk the line between owning your own narrative and feeding the frenzy? | 所以,你如何走的线 介于拥有自己的叙述 和喂养疯狂? |
| 9 | Because again, when you have a business, you need to go out and promote it. | 因为再次,当你有生意的时候,你需要出去推广. |
| 10 | You need to go and do, you know, whatever it is that you might need to do. | 你需要去做,你知道, 不管你需要做什么。 |
| 11 | Speak to the media, turn up at a retailer convention, like whatever it might be. | 对媒体说, 出现在零售商会议, 像它可能是什么。 |
| 12 | So how for you, are you able to toe the line? | 那么,你怎么样, 你能脚趾线? |
| 13 | I think it's a fine line, but it's also setting up boundaries, which I would say to anyone, | 我认为这是一个很好的线条, 但它也在设置界限, 我会告诉任何人, |
| 14 | no matter what you're going through, what your experience has been, you set boundaries | 无论你经历什么 经历什么 你定了界限 |
| 15 | where you're comfortable and it's okay to say no. | 在那里你很舒服,可以拒绝。 |
| 16 | It's okay to say, I'm not comfortable answering that. | 没关系,我可不自在 |
| 17 | It's okay to pivot and to really get to the place where you don't feel as though you have | 转动和真正到达你没有感觉的地方 |
| 18 | to explain yourself. | 为解释自己。 |
| 19 | And I think that comes with time, maturity, work, support surrounding you, but also to | 我认为,随着时间,成熟,工作, 支持围绕你, |
| 20 | be authentic. | 是真实的。 |
| 21 | You know, I don't think there's any value either in being so rehearsed and just having | 你知道,我不认为有什么价值 无论是被如此排练和仅仅拥有 |
| 22 | your talking points and just saying the thing, no, just talk. | 你的谈话要点 说说而已,不,只是说话。 |
| 23 | It's just not the time for it. | 只是现在不是它的时间。 |
| 24 | I think that there is an element of where we are in culture right now that like it or | 我认为我们现在在文化中 有一个因素 喜欢它或 |
| 25 | authenticity, that we want those people that we believe, rightly or wrongly, are telling | 真实的,我们想要那些 我们相信,正确或错误的人 告诉 |
| 26 | us the truth. | 我们的真相。 |
| 27 | And so I feel like there is no point in having rehearsed lines and a, you know, a narrative | 所以我觉得排练台词 和叙事没什么意义 |
| 28 | that is like, you know, fully, you know, written out that isn't your own. | 这就像,你知道, 完全,你知道, 写出不是你自己的。 |
| 29 | You have to be authentic. | 你必须是真实的。 |
| 30 | Just be authentic. | 只要是真实的。 |
| 31 | Do you see my baby mama dance? | 你看到我的宝贝妈妈跳舞了吗? |
| 32 | I mean, stop it. | 我的意思是,停下来。 |
| 33 | First of all, can I just tell you the timing of that, the timing of that, we were, we maybe | 首先,我可以告诉你 时间,时间,我们可能 |
| 34 | watched it like 20 times yesterday and I was like, is that, is that her? | 昨天我看了20遍,是她吗? |
| 35 | Oh my God. | 天呐 |
| 36 | Is that Prince Harry there with the fingers and the arms up? | 哈利王子在吗? |
| 37 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 38 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 39 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 40 | Get in Harry. | 进入哈利。 |
| 41 | Let's go. | 我们走吧。 |
| 42 | But I think it's. | 不过我想是的 |
| 43 | But that's you, right? | 但那是你,对吧? |
| 44 | Like that's you in a way that we kind of haven't been able to see you before. | 就像你的方式 我们以前没见过你 |
| 45 | And I did like a little secret cheer because I was like, well, that's what I kind of want | 我确实喜欢一个小小的秘密欢呼 因为我喜欢,嗯,这就是我想要的 |
| 46 | to see from you. | 从你那里看。 |
| 47 | Like I want to see that happiness and that honesty and that like, I don't give a fuck. | 就像我想看到幸福和诚实一样 我他妈不在乎 |
| 48 | But also, by the way, that wasn't yesterday, that was four years ago. | 但是,顺便说一句,那不是昨天,那是四年前。 |
| 49 | So it's also a really great reminder that with all the noise or whatever people do, | 所以,它也是一个非常棒的提醒, 有了所有的噪音或人们做什么, |
| 50 | there's still whole life, a real authentic, fun life that's happening behind the scenes. | 还有整个生活, 一个真正的,有趣的生活 发生在幕后。 |
| 51 | I'm just grateful that now being back on social as well, I have a place where I can share | 我只是很感激现在又回到社交, 我有一个可以分享的地方 |
| 52 | it on my own terms. | 这是我自己的条件。 |
| 53 | On your own terms. | 凭你自己的条件 |
| 54 | And that's really, really important. | 这真的很,真的很重要。 |
| 55 | You've really embraced social media. | 你真的很喜欢社交媒体 |
| 56 | Do you enjoy it or does it feel like a bit of a drag? | 喜欢还是觉得有点拖累? |
| 57 | No, it doesn't feel like a drag. | 不,它不觉得像拖。 |
| 58 | It feels liberating. | 感觉自由了 |
| 59 | I have to look again. | 我必须再看看。 |
| 60 | What was my intention? | 我的意图是什么? |
| 61 | I came back, started the account in January of this year. | 我今年一月回来开户 |
| 62 | Was it only January? | 是一月份吗? |
| 63 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 64 | Oh. | 瓳 |
| 65 | The last time I was on social, Boomerang was around. | 上次我参加社交活动时 宝玉就在附近 |
| 66 | Oh, Lord. | 天呐 |
| 67 | It's been a minute. | 好久不见 |
| 68 | There was no stories. | 没有故事。 |
| 69 | All of it's new. | 皆是新语. |
| 70 | There were no gadgets. | 没有小玩意 |
| 71 | You could have a little tripod that I'm sitting, you should see me sitting there trying to | 你可以有一个小三脚架 我坐,你应该看到我坐在那里试图 |
| 72 | figure out the magnet. | 找出磁铁。 |
| 73 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 74 | Yes. | 对 |
| 75 | And figuring I don't have key lights and all. | 还发现我没有钥匙灯 |
| 76 | I don't have all this business yet, but I'm just, I don't know if you need it. | 我还没有这些生意 但我不知道你是否需要 |
| 77 | I think if part of it is just being able to authentically share in real time the things | 我想,如果它的一部分只是 能够真实地实时分享的东西 |
| 78 | that are happening that I think someone might be able to laugh with or enjoy or be inspired | 我认为有人可以 与欢笑或享受 或受到启发 |
| 79 | by, then I want to do that in a way that feels like I can still have my hands on it and not | 然后,我想这样做的方式 感觉我仍然可以 我的手在它而不是 |
| 80 | be overproduced. | 被过度生产。 |
| 81 | But are you thinking about it in the way that so many of us do as also a business tool? | 但是,你是否在考虑它的方式 我们这么多人做 作为商业工具? |
| 82 | Not for my personal account. | 不是为了我个人 |
| 83 | Really? | 真的吗? |
| 84 | For my personal account? | 为了我的个人帐户? |
| 85 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 86 | No. | 没有 |
| 87 | Well, that's the one we're all following. | 嗯,这就是我们所关注的。 |
| 88 | Well, good. | 不错 |
| 89 | A lot of you are following as ever too. | 你们很多人也一样跟着我 |
| 90 | Josh dropped. | 乔希掉了。 |
| 91 | No, I think for me, it was a great way to get my voice back. | 不,我想对我来说,这是一个很好的方法 恢复我的声音。 |
| 92 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 93 | You have to. | 你必须这样做。 |
| 94 | Get my voice back. | 给我回声 |
| 95 | A million percent. | 百分百的回报 |
| 96 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 97 | And that's really, it's my space and my channel for joy. | 而这真的是,这是我的空间 和我的欢乐渠道。 |
| 98 | That is the intention of my handle. | 这就是我的本意 |
| 99 | Well, I think that your voice carries such unbelievable influence. | 我认为你的声音有如此不可思议的影响 |
| 100 | I remember a time where you were like, step out with a sweater, the sweater would sell | 我记得曾经你喜欢, 走出与毛衣,毛衣会卖 |
| 101 | out. | 出来。 |
| 102 | It's crazy. | 太疯狂了 |
| 103 | How do you feel about that? | 你觉得怎么样? |
| 104 | Was that part of the reason for you starting a brand? | 这是你开品牌的原因之一吗? |
| 105 | If you've been able to reconcile the fact that you have that type of influence, and | 如果你已经能够调和 你拥有这种影响的事实, |
| 106 | I wonder how you think about that as it relates to your advocacy work, that as it relates | 我想知道你是如何思考的,因为它 与你的宣传工作,因为它 |
| 107 | to your business ventures, because it's a lot. | 给您的企业, 因为这是很多。 |
| 108 | It's a lot to carry around. | 随身携带甚多. |
| 109 | Well, it's funny because that's been now for several years, that effect. | 嗯,这很有趣,因为这已经 几年了,这种效果。 |
| 110 | And again, I think my feelings surrounding it have ebbed and flowed because they say | 再说一次,我觉得我的感情 已经浮现和流淌起来 因为他们说 |
| 111 | imitation is the best form of flattery. | 模仿是一种最好的恭维形式. |
| 112 | And at the same time, you start to watch how it's being monetized at such a huge level | 与此同时,你开始看 它是如何被货币化 在如此巨大的水平 |
| 113 | globally, oftentimes not giving credit to the brands and the designers who actually | 在全球,经常不给品牌和设计者以信用 |
| 114 | made those pieces. | 做了这些碎片。 |
| 115 | So it was that fine line between, well, do you want to spoon feed who the brands and | 所以,这是一条好线 在,嗯,你想勺喂 谁的品牌和 |
| 116 | the designers are? | 设计师是? |
| 117 | And then it feels promotional. | 然后感觉升迁。 |
| 118 | When I have no skin in the game in any of those arrangements. | 当我在比赛中没有皮肤 在任何这样的安排。 |
| 119 | And at the same time, do you want people to mislabel it? | 同时,你是否希望人们误贴标签? |
| 120 | Because when I didn't feel as though I had as much of an opportunity to speak, what can | 因为当我没有感觉 像我有一样多的机会说话, |
| 121 | you say with what you're wearing? | 你说你穿什么? |
| 122 | You can say a lot, a lot. | 你可以说很多,很多。 |
| 123 | You can say a lot. | 你可以说很多。 |
| 124 | And so being able to support, especially female founded designers, small local brands, any | 因此,能够支持, 特别是女性创始设计师, 小地方品牌,任何 |
| 125 | territories we would go to on certain tours, I always tried to tap into local designers | 我们要去的地方 一些旅游, 我总是试图挖掘 本地设计师 |
| 126 | to really see their business just do so well as a result or how many people they could | 真正看到他们的生意 只是这样做好的结果 或有多少人可以 |
| 127 | help or how much they could give back or... | 或者他们能还多少... |
| 128 | And you were saying you were purposeful with that. | 你说你很有目的 |
| 129 | Of course, of course, there's intention. | 当然,当然,这是有意的。 |
| 130 | And so I think in moments where I found I wasn't as empowered with my voice, I still | 所以我想,在我发现我没有 被赋予我的声音,我仍然 |
| 131 | wanted to be able to be heard in other ways. | 希望能以其他方式被听到 |
| 132 | I still wanted women to know that I was supporting them. | 我还是想让女人知道我支持她们 |
| 133 | I still wanted people to feel like even if I didn't get an uplift from that, that | 我仍然希望人们会觉得,即使我没有得到一个升起, |
| 134 | they did. | 他们做到了。 |
| 135 | And in some ways, that actually did uplift me because I went, oh, my gosh, like there | 在某些方面,这确实提高了我, 因为我去了,哦,我的天哪,像那里 |
| 136 | was a company, they made jeans and they would help women. | 做牛仔裤 帮女人 |
| 137 | Was it Good American? | 是好美国人吗? |
| 138 | No. | 没有 |
| 139 | You weren't around then. | 你当时不在身边 |
| 140 | But they made jeans and they gave the positions and the roles to women who would have been | 但是,她们做了牛仔裤,她们把职位和角色交给了本该是 |
| 141 | trafficked and they took them off the streets and they put them into this labor force to | 他们把他们从大街上带走 然后把他们投入到这个劳动力队伍 |
| 142 | be able to have a well-paying job where they are well taken care of, to be able to help | 能够有一份报酬高的工作,在他们得到照顾的地方,能够提供帮助; |
| 143 | that company and get letters from those founders saying, we were able to help save 25 women | 那家公司收到创始人的信 说我们能救出25个女人 |
| 144 | because of you wearing these jeans, that is a huge privilege of influence. | 因为你穿着这些牛仔裤, 这是一个巨大的特权 影响。 |
| 145 | And I never took that lightly. | 我从来没有轻视。 |
| 146 | So I think, you know, had I chosen to just maximize the opportunity of the financial | 所以我想,你知道,如果我选择 只是最大化的机会 金融 |
| 147 | element of having a business, doing fashion would have been very obvious as we talked | 做生意的成分,做时尚 本来会非常明显 当我们谈话 |
| 148 | about. | 有关。 |
| 149 | But I wanted to go with what my heart was really responding to in this moment. | 但我想用此刻我内心所想的去做 |
| 150 | Was there ever a time when the influence you have actually really surprised you? | 你有没有想过你的影响真的让你吃惊? |
| 151 | At the beginning, of course. | 当然是在开始的时候 |
| 152 | What is happening? | 发生什么事了? |
| 153 | What is going on? | 这是怎么回事? |
| 154 | I just put a sweater around my shoulders. | 我只是把毛衣 在我的肩膀上。 |
| 155 | I mean, yeah, wild, but you have to think too, the seven years before that on Suits, | 我的意思是,是的,野性, 但你必须思考, 之前的七年 关于西装, |
| 156 | that was a very fashion driven show and people loved Rachel Zane's wardrobe, which I was | 这是一个非常时尚驱动的节目 人们喜欢瑞秋・赞恩的衣橱,我曾经是 |
| 157 | very, very involved with because I wanted it to look like a capsule that a real woman | 非常,非常参与 因为我希望它看起来像一个胶囊 一个真正的女人 |
| 158 | would wear, mix and match. | 会穿,混和匹配。 |
| 159 | And I was one of the only characters that re-wore pieces, but that was by design. | 我是唯一一个重塑作品的人物, 但那是设计。 |
| 160 | So I knew that there was influence there. | 所以我知道那里有影响力。 |
| 161 | But yes, it certainly got bigger. | 但是,是的,它肯定变得更大。 |
| 162 | It really got bigger. | 它真的变大了。 |
| 163 | It got a lot bigger. | 变大了 |
| 164 | Are you comfortable with that? | 你满意吗? |
| 165 | I have to be. | 我必须这样 |
| 166 | It's my life. | 这是我的生活。 |
| 167 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 168 | You get comfortable, basically. | 基本上你比较舒服 |
| 169 | You get comfortable. | 放松点 |
| 170 | You get to be an acceptance of what is. | 你得到一个接受什么是。 |
| 171 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 172 | No, completely. | 不,完全没有。 |
| 173 | But I also think it's really amazing that you can participate in that now because after | 但我也觉得你现在能参与其中 真是令人惊奇 因为之后 |
| 174 | a while it can, you know, I think it's wonderful and it's great that everybody can gain from | 一会儿,你知道, 我觉得这是美妙的, 这是伟大的,每个人都可以从 |
| 175 | it. | 这个 |
| 176 | But I do think that there is a time and a place in your life where you need to have | 但我确实认为你生命中有一个时间和一个地方 你需要有一个 |
| 177 | some skin in the game. | 游戏中的一些皮肤。 |
| 178 | You need to have a piece of that for yourself. | 你需要自己来一块 |
| 179 | And I think what was so wild, maybe the surprise came in when anything that my children were | 我觉得什么是如此疯狂, 也许惊喜来了 当我的孩子们是 |
| 180 | wearing started to get monetized and affiliate sales and part of headlines and things. | 穿戴开始获得货币化和附属销售 和部分头条和东西。 |
| 181 | That's where it became a little uncomfortable. | 在那里它变得有点不舒服。 |
| 182 | But at the same time, you know, when it comes from a place of love and excitement, very, | 但与此同时,你知道, 当它来自一个爱和兴奋的地方,非常, |
| 183 | very different. | 非常不一样 |
| 184 | It's very different. | 其义极异. |
| 185 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 186 | Then you can be happy about it and say, of course, have the same dress that Lily has. | 然后,你可以很高兴, 并说,当然, 有同样的裙子 莉莉有。 |
| 187 | It's when it comes from a different side. | 谓从彼边来时. |
| 188 | But that's true of most things in life. | 但生活中大多数事情都是这样 |
| 189 | So with Archwell, you've built this ecosystem of philanthropy, storytelling. | 因此,与阿奇韦尔, 你建立了这个生态系统 慈善,讲故事。 |
| 190 | You know, it's just it feels like, you know, you've now got the commerce and the brand | 你知道,它只是感觉 像,你知道,你现在已经得到了 商业和品牌 |
| 191 | piece of that. | 一块。 |
| 192 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 193 | So, you know, it really is. | 所以,你知道,这是真的。 |
| 194 | It's like an empire that you're building, like a media and commerce empire. | 这就像一个帝国 你正在建立, 像媒体和商业帝国。 |
| 195 | And I wonder if you thought about it in the sense of having real guiding principles for | 我想知道你是否考虑过 有真正的指导原则 |
| 196 | what you will be involved in, what you allow yourselves to get involved in. | 你们将参与什么,你们允许自己参与什么。 |
| 197 | Was that a part of your, you know, was it part of what you were thinking about as you | 那是你的一部分,你知道的, 它是你在想什么 作为你 |
| 198 | started bringing all of these things together? | 开始把这些东西都集中起来? |
| 199 | There was a lot of, again, flying the plane while you're still building it, but always | 在你还建飞机的时候 也有很多飞机飞过 但总是 |
| 200 | at its origin, being so value aligned with what my husband and I believe in. | 和我丈夫和我所相信的一样 |
| 201 | And that's where it started. | 亦从此起. |
| 202 | It started when we moved out here and building the foundation. | 它开始于我们搬到这里 和建立基金会。 |
| 203 | But you know, as things expanded and certainly talking about what sort of content we want | 但是你知道,随着事情的扩大, 肯定谈论 我们想要什么样的内容 |
| 204 | to put out, what sort of documentaries we want to make, what stories we want to tell, | 我们想拍什么样的纪录片 我们想讲什么故事 |
| 205 | those expanded under the Archwell universe with the production company. | 在Archwell宇宙下 和生产公司一起扩张的 |
| 206 | And, you know, building out in my own office, my brand and my business has felt really exciting | 而且,你知道,在我自己的办公室, 我的品牌和我的生意 感觉非常令人兴奋 |
| 207 | and different. | 与众不同 |
| 208 | They all still are value aligned. | 它们仍然都符合价值。 |
| 209 | When my husband and I, when we think about investments that we make or certainly my own | 当我和我的丈夫, 当我们想到投资 我们做或肯定我自己 |
| 210 | personal portfolio, it's, is it value aligned, is it mission driven, is it purpose driven? | 个人投资组合,它是, 它的价值对齐, 它是任务驱动, 是目的驱动? |
| 211 | And that can run the gamut. | 这可以运行游戏。 |
| 212 | You know, some of the investments that I started to make in women and female founded companies | 你知道,一些投资 我开始在妇女和女性创办的公司 |
| 213 | started with things as simple as what is the meaningful impact that a beautiful latte | 一开始,事情简单, 是什么有意义的影响 一个美丽的拿铁 |
| 214 | that you can make at home will have? | 你在家里能做的 会有吗? |
| 215 | It sounds so silly, but when it's adaptogens and it's good for you, like with Clever, | 听起来很傻 但是当它是适配体 对你有好处时 就像聪明人一样 |
| 216 | I was really proud to be her first investor. | 我为成为她的第一个投资人感到骄傲 |
| 217 | And it was my very first investment also. | 这是我第一次投资。 |
| 218 | So I learned quite a bit there. | 所以我在那里学到了很多东西。 |
| 219 | On the flip side of that, you look at a company like Midi, which is women talking about perimenopause | 反之,你看一个公司 像米蒂,这是女人 谈论近距离暂停 |
| 220 | and menopause. | 还有更年期 |
| 221 | And that is a chapter of their lives that's making a very meaningful impact for a lot | 这是他们一生的一章 给很多人带来非常有意义的影响 |
| 222 | of women. | 妇女。 |
| 223 | I look at who's on the cap table. | 我看看谁在帽子桌上。 |
| 224 | Melinda Gates is one that's there. | 梅林达 盖茨就在那里 |
| 225 | And I look at whose company I'm going to be in as I support these brands, as I'm sure | 当我支持这些品牌时 我看着谁的公司 我敢肯定 |
| 226 | you do too. | 你也一样。 |
| 227 | Well, I wanted to ask you about that because I feel like investing is so different from | 我想问你,因为我觉得投资和 |
| 228 | everything else. | 其他一切诸法. |
| 229 | And I wonder, you know, it's very clear to me that you've got a lot of principles around | 我想知道,你知道,我很清楚 你有很多原则 |
| 230 | who you're backing. | 你支持谁? |
| 231 | But is there anything else that you're like, are you out there specifically looking at | 但还有什么你喜欢的, 你在那里特别看 |
| 232 | things coming to you? | 事情来到你? |
| 233 | How do you think about that side of your business? | 你觉得你那份生意怎么样? |
| 234 | Both. | 两个都一样 |
| 235 | I'm looking at what comes through organically, not just through the people that can help | 我在看什么是有机的, 不只是通过人们可以帮助 |
| 236 | put the portfolio together, but friends that are in D.C., female founders that you're sort | 组合组合,但朋友 在华盛顿,女性创始人 你排序 |
| 237 | of tracking and saying, what are they up to next? | 追踪和说,他们接下来要做什么? |
| 238 | Really interested in fintech. | 真的很感兴趣 金融科技。 |
| 239 | I also, you know, I think financial literacy for young women especially is just so important. | 我也,你知道,我认为 年轻女性的金融知识水平 尤其非常重要。 |
| 240 | And so from my standpoint, not leaning away from things like that that might not be as | 所以从我的观点来看,不要从这样的事物中倾斜 可能不像 |
| 241 | trendy or topical to talk about, but they are vital. | 潮流或热门话题需要谈论,但它们至关重要。 |
| 242 | So I look at things where that's going to move the needle for young women and their | 所以,我看看的东西 在那里,要移动针 为年轻女性和他们的 |
| 243 | and what they can have access to and feel a lot of growth from in a substantive way. | 以及他们能够从实质上获得并感受到大量增长的东西。 |
| 244 | And at the same time, where can you find some fun and playfulness? | 同时,你在哪里可以找到一些乐趣和乐趣? |
| 245 | Where can you take some bets and say, it's not just about the brand. | 哪里可以打几下赌说,这不仅仅是品牌的问题. |
| 246 | When I think about investments, it's about the founder as well. | 我考虑投资时 也考虑创始人 |
| 247 | I really need to believe in the people that are that are driving that. | 我真的需要相信 那些驱动它的人。 |
| 248 | It's so important. | 这很重要 |
| 249 | You know, and I watched your episode of Shark Tank and it's really like that critical thinking | 你知道,我看你的插曲"鲨鱼坦克" 这真的像那种批判性的想法 |
| 250 | that has to come in when you are talking about real capital that you're going to put up for | 当你在谈论真正的资本时,你必须进来,而你将承担 |
| 251 | someone else's dream. | 别人的梦想。 |
| 252 | You have to entrust that they are going to bring that dream to reality responsibly. | 你必须相信,他们将负责任地实现这一梦想。 |
| 253 | Yes. | 对 |
| 254 | Well, this is also your money. | 嗯,这也是你的钱。 |
| 255 | It's not monopoly money. | 这不是垄断资金。 |
| 256 | It is not. | 事实并非如此。 |
| 257 | This is not monopoly money. | 这不是垄断资金。 |
| 258 | This is real. | 这是真实的。 |
| 259 | Yes. | 对 |
| 260 | And it really, I think, changes how you explore, you can have an incredible concept in front | 它真的,我认为,改变 你如何探索, 你可以有一个不可思议的概念 在前面 |
| 261 | of you, but if you don't really firmly trust and have incredible confidence in the people | 但是如果你没有真正 坚定信任和对人民有难以置信的信心 |
| 262 | that are running it and have brought that vision to life, it's not going to work. | 正在运行它, 并已经使这个愿景的生命, 它不会工作。 |
| 263 | So there have been a lot of opportunities that I've had to say no to based on that. | 因此有许多机会,我不得不以此为由拒绝。 |
| 264 | And at the same time, you know that there's so much creativity out there that I want to | 同时,你知道 有很多的创造力 在那里,我想 |
| 265 | find the person and the people that are working quietly behind the scenes and then help maximize | 找到在幕后悄悄工作的人和人 然后帮助最大化 |
| 266 | that for them and put a huge spotlight on that for them to see them go and change their | 那对于他们,是更明显的。 |
| 267 | family's life. | 家庭的生活。 家庭的生活。 |
| 268 | And it really is about changing their family's life. | 真正重要的是改变他们的家庭生活。 |
| 269 | I mean, when I think about investing, that's why I was asking you about your principles, | 我的意思是,当我考虑投资, 这就是为什么我问你 关于你的原则, |
| 270 | you know, I'm often, I have like a pretty impressive deal flow at this point in my career. | 你知道,我经常, 我有一个相当令人印象深刻的交易流动 在我职业生涯的这一刻。 |
| 271 | I bet you do. | 我敢打赌,你这样做。 |
| 272 | But I'm really trying to look for those people. | 但我真的想找这些人 |
| 273 | And I think this came from all those, you know, a couple of seasons that I did on Shark | 我想这是来自所有那些,你知道的, 我做了几个季节的鲨鱼。 |
| 274 | Tank, but I'm always looking for people that I don't think would get the funding elsewhere | 坦克,但我总是在寻找那些 找不到资金的人 |
| 275 | because I've been in those rooms. | 因为我一直在那些房间。 |
| 276 | I've, you know, it wasn't so long ago when I was trying to raise money for businesses | 我,你知道的,它不是 很久以前,我试图为企业筹款 |
| 277 | myself and really getting the feeling that I'm walking out of here with nothing. | 我本人和真正得到的感觉 我走出这里没有任何东西。 |
| 278 | Like these people don't understand what I'm doing. | 就像这些人不明白我在做什么 |
| 279 | They don't understand me. | 他们不理解我 |
| 280 | I don't sound like they want me to sound like it's just the educational background. | 我听起来不像是他们想让我听的 只是教育背景 |
| 281 | But you know, at some point when you don't have anything behind you, it's very, very | 但是,你知道,在某个时候 当你没有任何东西在你后面, 它非常,非常 |
| 282 | difficult. | 很难 |
| 283 | And so for me, it's always about finding these founders that I think they are not going to | 因此,对我来说,它总是 找到这些创始人 我认为他们不会 |
| 284 | be able to walk into a room and walk out with the check. | 可以走进一个房间 和支票一起走出去。 |
| 285 | And so when you think about investment principles, are there, are there reasons? | 所以,当你想到投资原则, 有没有,有原因吗? |
| 286 | Because again, there's such a thread running through everything that you're doing right | 再说一遍,你做的每件事都有一条线 |
| 287 | now. | 现在 |
| 288 | And is this following that same type of trajectory of everything else that you've got going | 这是跟往常一样的轨迹 |
| 289 | on? | 继续? |
| 290 | I think everything that I'm working on is an extension of me. | 我觉得我的工作都是我的延伸 |
| 291 | It's an extension of my personal taste and it's an extension of my values. | 这是我个人品味的延伸,也是我价值的延伸. |
| 292 | It's an extension of how I like to show up in the room, right? | 这是我喜欢在房间里露面的延伸,对吧? |
| 293 | And ultimately, I really value thoughtfulness. | 归根结底,我真的很重视思考。 |
| 294 | I really value attention to detail and you know, I've said playfulness a lot, but I | 我真的很重视细节,你知道,我说过很多的乐趣,但我 |
| 295 | think that seriousness and business and playfulness do not need to be mutually exclusive. | 认为严肃性、业务性和玩乐性不需要相互排斥。 |
| 296 | I value that as well. | 我也这么认为 |
| 297 | You see that in the series. | 你看这系列。 |
| 298 | You see that in the podcast and certainly in the brand. | 在播客和品牌上都可以看到这一点。 |
| 299 | Not everything can be so earnest. | 不是一切都那么认真 |
| 300 | You can have something that is best in class, incredible quality, thoughtful in its design, | 你可以有在课堂上最好, 令人难以置信的质量, 深思熟虑的设计, |
| 301 | but with a little cheek and a little wink and have fun. | 但有一个小脸颊 和一点点眨眼,并有乐趣。 |
| 302 | Would you ever do something just for the money if you thought this is going to kill, this | 你会不会为了钱而做点什么 如果你认为这将会杀死,这个 |
| 303 | is going to be an amazing business? | 生意会很棒吗? |
| 304 | I have turned down a lot of opportunities that do not feel value aligned. | 我拒绝了许多不认为价值一致的机会。 |
| 305 | No, it's very easy to say no, no matter the price. | 不,这很容易说不, 不管价格。 |
| 306 | If you aren't going to be able to sleep well at night, don't sacrifice that. | 如果你晚上睡不好,就别牺牲了 |
| 307 | But hopefully you can find some investments that let you sleep well at night and make | 但愿你能找到一些投资 让你晚上睡得安稳 |
| 308 | loads of money. | 很多钱 |
| 309 | Is that a page in your playbook? | 那是你游戏本上的一页吗? |
| 310 | A hundred percent. | 百分百都一样 |
| 311 | So we're talking about that. | 所以我们在谈论这个。 |
| 312 | I've got those and I've got those. | 我有这些,我有这些。 |
| 313 | At the moment, it's all in this one lane. | 目前,这都是在这个单车道上. |
| 314 | I love that. | 我喜欢 |
| 315 | It's interesting because I think we all come at these things from a very different background | 很有趣,因为我觉得我们都是从不同的背景来看这些事情的 |
| 316 | and when I think about putting my money to work, to me it literally feels like that. | 当我想把我的钱投入工作时, 对我来说,它真的有这样的感觉。 |
| 317 | I want that money to work and there's a piece of what I do that is very firmly sits over | 我希望这些钱能起作用,我所做的就是 牢牢地坐着 |
| 318 | here and it's for those people I don't think would get funding. | 给那些没钱的人 |
| 319 | And there's another piece of it that is just purely opportunistic. | 还有一块只是机会性的。 |
| 320 | And I say that without apologizing because I made this money and I need this money to | 我这样说不道歉 因为我赚了这笔钱 我需要这笔钱 |
| 321 | work for me. | 为我工作。 |
| 322 | It's like I've got things to do. | 犹如有情. |
| 323 | It's also very refreshing to hear a woman in business say that because I think often | 听到一个女人在商业上这么说也非常令人振奋 因为我觉得经常 |
| 324 | what happens is we are trained as young girls to not talk about money. | 发生的情况是,我们被训练成年轻女孩,不谈钱。 |
| 325 | We are trained as young girls that it's very gauche to talk about finances, but that's | 我们被训练成年轻姑娘 谈论财务很粗鲁,但是 |
| 326 | a part of life. | 生活的一部分。 |
| 327 | Well, that's what keeps us out of making all the money. | 那让我们无法赚到所有的钱 |
| 328 | This is it, right? | 就是这样,对吧? |
| 329 | Because the minute you don't speak about something, you know, it's just like the years when women | 因为当你不说话的那一刻, 你知道,这就像 女人的岁月 |
| 330 | didn't talk about, you know, their own sexual pleasure. | 他们没有说,你知道, 他们自己的性快感。 |
| 331 | Well, guess what? | 你猜怎么着? |
| 332 | Like they missed out on a lot of fun times and it's exactly the same with money. | 就像他们错过了很多有趣的时光 钱也一样 |
| 333 | But it is, you know, I don't think that those things is any, any more different. | 但是,你知道,我不认为 那些东西是任何, 更多的不同。 |
| 334 | It's like if you elegantly avoid the subject of money, you will find that the money somehow | 这就像如果你优雅地避免 钱的主题, 你会发现,钱不知何故 |
| 335 | elegantly avoids you. | 优雅地避开你。 |
| 336 | And so I talk about it all the time. | 所以我一直在谈论它。 |
| 337 | I'm like, do you know what I mean? | 我很喜欢,你知道我的意思吗? |
| 338 | I'm like just blatantly. | 我像只是公然。 |
| 339 | So we have to be able to speak about money. | 因此,我们必须能够谈论钱。 |
| 340 | We have to be able to, you know, articulate what we need and what our value is because | 我们必须能够,你知道, 阐明我们需要什么和我们的价值,因为 |
| 341 | those two things are inextricably linked. | 这两件事密不可分 |
| 342 | And if we're not talking about it, we ain't going to get it. | 如果我们不谈它, 我们不会得到它。 |
| 343 | Yes. | 对 |
| 344 | And you have no shame in talking about it. | 你谈论它并不羞耻。 |
| 345 | There's nothing shameful about it. | 无有可耻. |
| 346 | It does not empower as you're talking about it. | 它不会像你说的那样赋予权力 |
| 347 | 你认识Melody Hobson吗? | |
| 348 | Oh. | 瓳 |
| 349 | The dream. | 那个梦 |
| 350 | First of all, I love Melody so much. | 首先,我爱梅洛迪这么多。 |
| 351 | She was my second guest on the podcast. | 她是播客的第二个客人 |
| 352 | Oh my gosh. | 天呐 |
| 353 | I didn't realize that. | 我没意识到 |
| 354 | 哦 我爱Melody | |
| 355 | I love her so much. | 我很爱她 |
| 356 | I mean, her episode was amazing because, you know, Melody's, you know, she's all about | 我的意思是,她的插曲是惊人的 因为,你知道,梅洛迪的,你知道, 她的一切 |
| 357 | the finance. | 财经 |
| 358 | That's her career. | 那是她的事业 |
| 359 | That's what she is so knowledgeable about. | 这就是她所了解的 |
| 360 | And she speaks about it in such an elegant way, but that's her whole life. | 她以如此优雅的方式谈论此事,但那是她一生的一生. |
| 361 | She's not shying away from having those conversations. | 她不会回避那些谈话的 |
| 362 | Of course not. | 当然不是。 |
| 363 | She and I did an episode of Dealbook together years ago. | 她和我几年前一起拍了集《交易本》 |
| 364 | And I must have, yeah, years ago because I just had Lily. | 我一定是,是的,几年前 因为我刚刚有了Lily。 |
| 365 | And I think it's just so empowering to hear a woman and especially a woman of color stand | 我觉得听到一个女人 特别是一个有色人种的女人 实在是太有力量了 |
| 366 | in the truth and the knowing that she does not need to shy away from a conversation that | 在真相和知道 她不需要回避 谈话, |
| 367 | a man would comfortably have. | 一个男人会很舒服的 |
| 368 | And ultimately, especially as moms and as working moms, you want that to be part of | 归根结底,尤其是作为妈妈和工作妈妈, 你希望这成为一部分 |
| 369 | the modeling that you do for your daughter and your son. | 你为女儿和儿子做模特 |
| 370 | But for your daughter, I think it's pivotal for them to understand that they cannot be | 但对于你的女儿,我认为关键 让他们明白他们不可能 |
| 371 | afraid of those conversations. | 害怕那些谈话 |
| 372 | You're only selling yourself short. | 你只卖自己短。 |
| 373 | Do you have, I mean, your kids are really little, one or a bit older. | 你有,我的意思是,你的孩子 真的很小,一或有点老。 |
| 374 | Do you have conversations with your kids about money? | 你和你孩子谈钱的事吗? |
| 375 | Like how are you even beginning to think about that type of thing? | 比如你是如何开始思考这种事情的? |
| 376 | Well, we sometimes do a little farmer's market stand. | 嗯,我们有时候做一个小农民的市场摊位。 |
| 377 | That's so American. | 这么美 |
| 378 | I love that. | 我喜欢 |
| 379 | Like a little lemonade stand just makes me feel like that. | 像一个小柠檬水摊 只是让我感觉这样。 |
| 380 | It's like perfect Americana in Montecito with a farm stand. | 就像是在蒙特西托的美式餐厅 有个农庄摊位 |
| 381 | But we do, we grow a lot of veggies. | 但我们有,我们种了很多蔬菜。 |
| 382 | And part of what I want them to learn is, and gardening is really, really so great for | 我希望他们学习的一部分是, 园艺真的很,真的很好 |
| 383 | children because it teaches them patience, teaches them to value and appreciate their | 因为它教他们耐心,教他们珍惜和欣赏 |
| 384 | food. | 饭食. |
| 385 | So you start from seed and you watch it grow and they wait. | 所以,你从种子开始, 你看着它生长,他们等待。 |
| 386 | But with that, it's like, now do you want to sell your harvest and do you want to share | 但是现在你想卖掉你的收获吗? |
| 387 | it with our community? | 它与我们的社区? |
| 388 | And also, what do you want to do with those funds once you have them? | 还有,一旦你拿到那些资金,你想做什么? |
| 389 | So really starting to understand as they're learning counting and numbers and all of those | 所以真正开始理解 当他们学习计数 数字和所有这些 |
| 390 | things that there's a cost and a price for things. | 有代价和代价的东西。 |
| 391 | Yes. | 对 |
| 392 | And I think that's key for children to understand that, especially children who are very | 我认为这是关键 儿童知道这一点, 特别是儿童谁是非常 |
| 393 | lucky to have a home that has privilege. | 幸运的是有一个有特权的家。 |
| 394 | You need to know that, you know, just like manners and taking care of the things around | 你需要知道,你知道, 就像礼仪和照顾周围的东西 |
| 395 | you, there is a value on things. | 你,有价值的东西。 |
| 396 | And in our life, for my husband and I, it's really important that they understand the | 在我们的生活中,对我丈夫和我来说, 他们必须明白 |
| 397 | value of things. | 价值。 |
| 398 | Yeah, I couldn't agree more. | 对,我完全同意 |
| 399 | I mean, Melody wrote the book on it, actually, for all of the kids. | 我的意思是,梅洛迪写了这本书, 实际上,所有的孩子。 |
| 400 | So it's a great one. | 故曰妙门. |
| 401 | It's just such a, it's such a beautiful book. | 这本书太美了 |
| 402 | Yes. | 对 |
| 403 | And Switching Gear, I want to talk about your podcast, Confessions of a Female Founder. | 我想谈谈你的播客 女创始人的告白 |
| 404 | It's fun. | 趣无边故. |
| 405 | It's so fun. | 极乐无量. |
| 406 | I mean, it is really, really fun. | 我的意思是,这是真的,真的很有趣。 |
| 407 | But the whole idea of that podcast is that you are spotlighting female entrepreneurs. | 但是播客的整个想法是 你正在关注女性企业家。 |
| 408 | Yes. | 对 |
| 409 | And I just want to ask you, I mean, why that show and why right now? | 我只是想问你,我的意思是, 为什么那个节目,为什么现在? |
| 410 | It was perfect synergy. | 这是完美的协同作用。 |
| 411 | Think about the timing of that. | 想想时机 |
| 412 | No, I was like, she's going to school. | 不,我说,她要去上学。 |
| 413 | This is what's happening. | 就是这样 |
| 414 | Think about the timing of that. | 想想时机 |
| 415 | I literally, I was so fortunate to find Lemonade. | 我从字面上说,我是如此幸运 找到柠檬水。 |
| 416 | I love that it was a female founded company that was doing podcasts and the women running | 我喜欢一个女人创办的公司 做播客和女人跑步 |
| 417 | it. | 这个 |
| 418 | Incredible. | 不可思议 |
| 419 | They actually just had an acquisition. | 他们实际上刚刚有收购。 |
| 420 | Amazing. | 厉害 |
| 421 | Proud of them. | 为他们感到骄傲。 |
| 422 | Good for them. | 对他们有好处。 |
| 423 | Stephanie和Jess 干得好 女士们 | |
| 424 | And, you know, knowing that it was in a safe place where we could have these conversations | 你知道,你知道,它在一个安全的地方 我们可以有这些谈话 |
| 425 | when it came to what do we want to talk about? | 我们想谈什么? |
| 426 | What do I want this podcast to be? | 我要这个播客做什么? |
| 427 | As I knew I was in this building phase of my business, what an amazing opportunity to | 我知道,我正处在这个建筑阶段 我的工作, 多么惊人的机会 |
| 428 | pull back the curtain and let people see what's happening at the start. | 把窗帘拉开 让大家看看一开始发生了什么 |
| 429 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 430 | At the start, when all the twists and turns are there. | 一开始,当所有的曲折和转弯都在那里。 |
| 431 | And, you know, for me to have the opportunity to talk to so many female founders who've | 而且,你知道,让我有机会 与这么多的女创始人说话 |
| 432 | been on that full trajectory that are on the other side of success, still certain | 一直走在成功的另一边 仍然可以肯定 |
| 433 | chapters in their career and their growth, but to be able to be really candid and | 在他们的职业生涯和成长中,但能够真正坦率, |
| 434 | vulnerable personally about my learns and stumbles along the way and to then take | 个人对我的学习 和绊倒 沿途然后采取 |
| 435 | everyone's advice and mine included and to say, I love that there's so much excitement | 每个人的建议和我的 包括,说,我喜欢有这么多的兴奋 |
| 436 | and desire for another season, but I need to focus on my business. | 和对另一个赛季的渴望, 但我需要专注于我的生意。 |
| 437 | So you've done how many episodes did you do? | 你拍过多少集? |
| 438 | We did eight and a bonus episode. | 我们拍了8集,还有一集奖金 |
| 439 | So Tina Knowles came on to do the last one. | 所以蒂娜·诺尔斯来做最后一个 |
| 440 | Oh, Tina, that's a good one. | 哦,蒂娜,这是一个很好的。 |
| 441 | That's such a good one. | 说得好 |
| 442 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 443 | So wait a minute. | 所以,等待一分钟。 |
| 444 | But this was a decision to say, okay, I'm going to stop this now because you're | 但是,这是一个决定说, 好吧, 我现在要停止这个 因为你是 |
| 445 | having like huge success. | 已经取得了巨大的成功。 |
| 446 | I mean, I was hearing about that podcast everywhere and you've decided I'm going | 我的意思是,我听说 播客到处 你已决定我要去 |
| 447 | to stop and focus on the business. | 停止并专注于业务。 |
| 448 | Have to. | 不得不这样做。 |
| 449 | Nice. | 不错 |
| 450 | Have to, because at a certain point I was thinking about this this morning. | 不得不这么做,因为我今天早上在想 |
| 451 | You're like, this is too much. | 你就像,这是太多。 |
| 452 | Well, that's what I was thinking this morning. | 今早我也是这么想的 |
| 453 | People seem to, yes. | 人们似乎,是的。 |
| 454 | Well, people seem to forget that very rarely do people see everything that's | 嗯,人们似乎忘记了 很少有人看到一切 |
| 455 | happening behind the scenes. | 发生在幕后。 |
| 456 | I could show a small glimpse of that, but equally, yes, I wrapped season one of my | 我可以略微看一眼,但同样,是的,我包住了我的第一季 |
| 457 | Netflix系列. | |
| 458 | So to promote it still had to be in the edits for season two, we were in | 所以为了宣传它 还需要在编辑第二季,我们加入了 |
| 459 | pre-production of one season while we were doing post-production of the other. | 一个赛季的预产期,而我们是在进行另一个赛季的预产期。 |
| 460 | It's constant. | 是常无常. |
| 461 | I just wrapped edits on season two of with love Megan last week. | 我上周刚把第二季的剪辑 和爱梅根合在一起 |
| 462 | So it's still ongoing while also doing a podcast while also building my business. | 因此,它还在继续 同时做播客 同时也在建立我的事业。 |
| 463 | And at a certain point, the only thing I want spread thin is my jam. | 在某个时候,我唯一想要的就是散开我的果酱 |
| 464 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 465 | And I think I just, I realized, wow, I'm, I'm using this opportunity to share. | 我想,我只是,我意识到,哇,我, 我利用这个机会分享。 |
| 466 | And I love that, but I also need to use this opportunity to listen. | 我喜欢这样 但我也需要利用这个机会倾听 |
| 467 | I have very valuable insight coming from women who have been through this before. | 我对以前经历过这种经历的妇女有非常宝贵的见解。 |
| 468 | And if I'm not going to take the cue that we are teaching people, what's the point? | 如果我不接受我们教人的暗示 那有什么意义呢? |
| 469 | So does it mean it won't come back? | 意思是不会回来了? |
| 470 | No, but I would love to bring the show back when I am at a different end of my | 没有,但我很想把演出带回来 当我在另一端 我 |
| 471 | founder journey, when I've gone through Q4 and say, here are my proof points. | 创始人之旅,当我通过Q4,然后说, 这是我的证明点。 |
| 472 | Here's this. | 这个 |
| 473 | Wow. | 珃 |
| 474 | What a year it's been. | 何等为年. |
| 475 | Or even longer than that. | 或更长. |
| 476 | I think a different time will be so exciting to be able to compare and contrast. | 我认为,一个不同的时代将是如此令人兴奋,能够进行比较和对比。 |
| 477 | But yeah, I know people, I know he will want another one. | 但是,是的,我知道人们, 我知道他会想要另一个。 |
| 478 | I just made a choice to say, it's a really good time to make a, to put all of | 我只是做了一个选择,说, 这是一个真正的好时机 制作一个,把所有 |
| 479 | my energy into the thing that I'm building. | 我的能量进入我正在建造的东西。 |
| 480 | Well, I think that that focus is an absolute necessity. | 嗯,我认为这个焦点是绝对必要的。 |
| 481 | Yes. | 对 |
| 482 | You want to be successful, right? | 你想成功 对吧? |
| 483 | Like just doubling down and being excellent at what you're trying to do is | 就像翻一番 表现得很棒一样 |
| 484 | just one of the most simple and powerful things that you can do in business. | 只是最简单和最强大的事情之一 你可以做在生意。 |
| 485 | Like just giving everything to one thing. | 就像把一切奉献给一件事一样 |
| 486 | And it's so difficult when you have so much opportunity, right? | 当你有这么多机会的时候,就很难了,对吧? |
| 487 | When seemingly everything's coming at you and you, you know, it's like, you're | 当一切看起来都向你和你, 你知道,它就像,你 |
| 488 | the hot girl that's out there and you have a lot of opportunity. | 外面那个辣妹 你有很多机会 |
| 489 | It's hard to say, no, I'm going to put this thing first. | 很难说,不,我要把这个东西放在第一位。 |
| 490 | Were there things from the podcast that you have taken like | 你从播客那里得到的东西 |
| 491 | straight into your business? | 直接进入你的生意? |
| 492 | Um, yes, again, this idea, and we talked about that earlier, that someone | 嗯,是的,再次,这个想法, 我们之前谈到,有人 |
| 493 | else's urgency is not my urgency. | 换句话说,我的急迫性不是 |
| 494 | Most of the women that I spoke to are working moms. | 我和大多数女人说话 都是工作妈妈 |
| 495 | And this is such a big deal. | 这是件大事 |
| 496 | Yes. | 对 |
| 497 | And this is such a key age. | 这是这么关键的时代。 |
| 498 | I don't want to miss a moment for my children. | 我不想错过我孩子的一刻 |
| 499 | And I love that I can do drop off and pick up at school and do meetings in | 我喜欢我下车去学校开会 |
| 500 | between and go to Disneyland for two days, uh, as we just did and. | 去迪士尼乐园呆两天 就像我们刚才那样 |
| 501 | You know, volunteer to serve hot lunch at school or be the chaperone | 要知道,志愿在学校吃热饭还是当伴娘 |
| 502 | for the kindergarten field trip. | 为幼儿园的实地考察。 |
| 503 | You're making me look so bad. | 你让我看起来很糟。 |
| 504 | No, stop that. | 不,停下来。 |
| 505 | I never volunteer. | 我从来不自愿 |
| 506 | Well, you can start. | 好吧,你可以开始。 |
| 507 | No, I cannot. | 不,我不能这样做。 |
| 508 | I don't want to. | 我不想这样 |
| 509 | But you know, this is, and I think that this is a really important point | 但你知道,这是, 我认为这是一个非常重要的问题 |
| 510 | because people often say to me, you know, Emma, like, is it, is it bad that | 因为人们经常对我说,你知道,艾玛, 是不是,它不好, |
| 511 | I go and drop my kids every day? | 我每天都去送孩子吗? |
| 512 | Is it bad that I want to volunteer? | 我想志愿工作是不是很糟糕? |
| 513 | I'm like, no, you have to do what you want to do. | 不,你必须做你想做的事 |
| 514 | What feels right. | 感觉怎么样? |
| 515 | You have to do the thing that makes your heart sing in the morning. | 须作令心清晨唱之事. |
| 516 | For me, it's like, I don't want to volunteer. | 对我来说,这就像,我不想志愿。 |
| 517 | So I don't, but there's lots of other things that for me are | 所以,我不知道,但有很多 其他的事情对我来说是 |
| 518 | just non-negotiables, right? | 只是不可谈判,对不对? |
| 519 | It's like, I like to put my kids' outfits together. | 这就像,我喜欢 把我的孩子们的衣服在一起。 |
| 520 | I'm crazy about their packed lunches. | 我为他们收拾的午餐疯狂 |
| 521 | Now I don't pack them, but it's like, I know what's in every lunch every day. | 现在我不收拾他们, 但这是喜欢,我知道什么 每天的午餐。 |
| 522 | Cause that's just the type of person I am. | 因为我就是那种人 |
| 523 | So you have to choose. | 所以,你必须选择。 |
| 524 | Oh, I love packing in the lunchbox. | 我喜欢在午餐盒里打包 |
| 525 | You do? | 是吗? |
| 526 | Yes. | 对 |
| 527 | Oh, stop it, Megan. | 别闹了 梅根 |
| 528 | No, you don't. | 不,你没有。 |
| 529 | Do you do it, Lisa? | 你这样做,丽莎? |
| 530 | Do you like make shapes and like make it look all beautiful? | 你喜欢造型和造型都很漂亮吗? |
| 531 | Is it a sprinkle situation are we putting? | 我们是不是在撒水? |
| 532 | Sometimes. | 有时 |
| 533 | Oh my God. | 天呐 |
| 534 | My kids are all going to move into your house. | 我的孩子都会搬进你家 |
| 535 | No, stop. | 不,停下来。 |
| 536 | I think, but look, to your point, like that sounds ridiculous, but I love it. | 我想,但你看,你的观点, 听起来很可笑, 但我喜欢它。 |
| 537 | At the end of a long day, the kids are down to bed at like seven, seven ish and go down | 在漫长的一天结束时,孩子们在七点七点就上床睡觉,然后下去 |
| 538 | stairs, have a glass of wine. | 楼梯,喝杯酒。 |
| 539 | I'm doing their little lunch, but I find joy in it for whatever reason. | 我在做他们的小午餐, 但我在其中找到快乐,无论出于什么原因。 |
| 540 | And it can be therapeutic. | 并且可以治疗. |
| 541 | Yes. | 对 |
| 542 | So that for me is one of my simple pleasures. | 对我来说,那只是我简单的乐趣之一。 |
| 543 | It's something like, Oh my gosh, that works for me. | 就像,我的天啊, 对我来说是可行的。 |
| 544 | What works for you works for you. | 什么对你有用? |
| 545 | But I, you know, I think with all of the projects that I had going at the same time and how | 但我,你知道,我想 与所有的项目,我 曾经同时进行 以及如何 |
| 546 | much my, the valuation that I put on time with my family is so high, it matters so much | 我对家人的估价太高了 这很重要 |
| 547 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}对我丈夫和我来说 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}我就是不 | |
| 548 | anything. | 任何东西。 |
| 549 | And so I think it's really important to have that conversation with yourself, especially | 所以我觉得和你谈话很重要 特别是 |
| 550 | if you're ambitious, to say, all of these things are exciting to me and I can do all | 如果你野心勃勃,可以说, 所有这些事情都让我兴奋 我可以做所有 |
| 551 | of them well enough, but can you do all of them exceptionally well? | 足够好,但你可以做 所有他们特别好? |
| 552 | Probably not. | 也许不是。 |
| 553 | Something is going to not get the same love and attention that it needs. | 有些东西不会像它所需要的那样得到爱和关注。 |
| 554 | And so to be able to say, what's my focus right now? | 所以,为了能说, 我现在有什么重点? |
| 555 | My family always and growing as ever and to be able to be so committed to those two | 我的家人总是和成长 像往常一样 能够如此致力于这两个 |
| 556 | things fills my cup in a very different way because there's time for the rest of it. | 事情以完全不同的方式填满我的杯子,因为还有时间来完成剩下的部分. |
| 557 | Yeah, there's going to be time. | 是的,还有时间。 |
| 558 | There's nothing in you though, that's like, Oh, it's like this little thing over here | 你什么也没有,就像, 哦,就像这个小东西在这里 |
| 559 | that I could possibly do because I struggle with that. | 可能是因为我挣扎着 |
| 560 | I love, I mean, I love starting new projects and a new project for me, it's like very, | 我爱,我的意思是,我喜欢开始新的项目 和一个新的项目对我来说,这就像非常, |
| 561 | very, very hard to turn down. | 非常,非常难拒绝。 |
| 562 | So, and again, I say the same thing to you. | 所以,我再说一遍,我对你说同样的话。 |
| 563 | It's like, when you have so much opportunity, it must be difficult to just go like, that's | 这就像,当你有这么多的机会, 它一定是很难 只是去喜欢,这就是 |
| 564 | not a priority. | 这不是一个优先事项。 |
| 565 | I mean, I love the creation stage. | 我的意思是,我喜欢创作阶段。 |
| 566 | So yes, now that I can see with more dedicated focus on the brand, knowing our trajectory, | 所以,是的,现在我可以看到 更加专注于品牌, 了解我们的轨迹, |
| 567 | looking at the business plan, being able to pinpoint where these key moments are going | 能够确定这些关键时刻的走向 |
| 568 | to be, I can also very comfortably say, as this continues to grow to where I want it | 我也很欣慰地说,随着它继续发展到我想要它的地方 |
| 569 | to scale, what's my next thing going to be? | 我接下来会是什么? |
| 570 | Because that dreaming phase and daydreaming, it's really key, I think, to keep your creative | 因为那个梦想阶段和白日梦, 我认为,这是真正关键 保持你的创造力 |
| 571 | juices flowing and that doesn't go anywhere. | 果汁流着,那不会去任何地方。 |
| 572 | And I think a lot of that is what I'm excited about for the next phase. | 我认为,在下一阶段,我非常兴奋。 |
| 573 | What's the common thread as you were going through Confessions of a Female Founder, what | 你经历一个女创始人的忏悔时 通常的线索是什么? |
| 574 | do you think the common thread was with the entrepreneurs that you interviewed in terms | 你觉得共同的线索是 与企业家 你采访的术语 |
| 575 | of like successful founders, the way they think about strategy? | 像成功的创始人, 他们思考策略的方式? |
| 576 | Did you did you find anything that you were like, they all have this? | 你有没有找到任何你喜欢的东西 他们都有这个? |
| 577 | They all, no matter their background, they all were incredibly focused. | 不管他们的背景如何 他们都非常专注 |
| 578 | They all have regrets. | 他们都有遗憾。 |
| 579 | Most of them regretting not spending more time with their family or taking things personally. | 他们大多对不花更多时间与家人在一起或亲自处理事情表示遗憾。 |
| 580 | A lot of them talk about that. | 很多人都在谈论这个 |
| 581 | You know, do you do that? | 你知道,你这样做? |
| 582 | Taking things personally? | 亲自处理? |
| 583 | Yeah, of course. | 当然 |
| 584 | I'm human and that can be really hard. | 我是人类,那可能很难。 |
| 585 | So you can do all the practices and things that you want to do. | 这样你就可以做你想要做的事了。 |
| 586 | But at the end of the day, you're still human. | 但最后还是人类 |
| 587 | You're still going to cry. | 你还会哭的 |
| 588 | You're still going to take something to heart, especially if you poured so much of yourself | 你还是会想点办法的 特别是如果你自己倒这么多 |
| 589 | into it. | 进入它。 |
| 590 | You know, when I want the jam spread thin, I don't mean, I mean, spread thin on | 你知道,当我希望 果酱散开瘦, 我不是说,我的意思是,散开瘦 |
| 591 | toast. | 祝酒词 |
| 592 | Right? | 对吧? |
| 593 | I mean, I want everything that I'm thinking about that I have poured my heart and soul | 我的意思是,我想的一切 我想,我已经倾注了我的心和灵魂 |
| 594 | into. | 进入。 |
| 595 | It's not just jam. | 不只是果酱 |
| 596 | Could I just go and make a preserve somewhere and stick my name on it? | 我可以去一个地方保存一下吗? |
| 597 | Of course. | 当然 |
| 598 | Not what I wanted to do. | 不是我想做的,我爱她 |
| 599 | So I loved that it was winning all these blind taste tests. | 所以我喜欢它赢得了所有这些盲目的品味测试。 |
| 600 | And I love that people loved it. | 我喜欢人们喜欢它。 |
| 601 | I was making out of my kitchen. | 我从厨房里弄出来的 |
| 602 | That's how you'd feel here at my house. | 这就是你在我家的感觉 |
| 603 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 604 | It works. | 它的工作原理。 |
| 605 | And so if there's some hiccup along the way, that doesn't land in the same way, even like | 所以,如果在路上有一些打嗝, 那不会以同样的方式降落,甚至像 |
| 606 | in a small internal team on how it's on how it's tracking. | 在一个小的内部团队 如何它是如何追踪。 |
| 607 | I go, well, OK, all right. | 我走了,好吧,没事的。 |
| 608 | I was really excited about it. | 我真的很兴奋 |
| 609 | But let's think about how we can make this something that really works at scale, because | 但是,让我们想想,我们如何 使这个东西 真正工作的规模,因为 |
| 610 | I don't want this to be a niche product line. | 我不想让这成为特殊产品 |
| 611 | But yes, taking things personally is a human reaction. | 但是,是的,拿东西个人 是一个人类的反应。 |
| 612 | You know, it's so interesting because the more I am doing this podcast and it's interesting | 你知道,它是如此有趣,因为我做这个播客 越多的有趣 |
| 613 | because it seems to be just the men. | 因为它似乎只是男人。 |
| 614 | They talk about how much fun they have, like in the deal, in the failure, in that they're | 他们谈论他们有多有趣, 就像在交易,失败, 因为他们是 |
| 615 | just like, that's fun to me. | 就像,这对我来说很有趣。 |
| 616 | Like not like in the I'm having fun doing my business day to day, like the hard stuff | 喜欢不喜欢的,我玩得很开心 每天做我的生意, 像硬的东西 |
| 617 | and how fun that is. | 以及那是多么的有趣。 |
| 618 | And I think that it to me has it's just so interesting because as women, we tend to take | 我觉得这对我来说太有趣了 因为作为女人 我们倾向于接受 |
| 619 | things so much more personally. | 事情更个人。 |
| 620 | And that means when things don't go well or when you have those inevitable failures or | 这意味着当事情不顺利 或者当你有那些不可避免的失败 |
| 621 | when, you know, like whatever, like it doesn't you have a bad drop, you have a bad product, | 当,你知道,喜欢什么, 喜欢它没有你有一个坏掉, 你有一个坏的产品, |
| 622 | you have something that kind of, you know, shit hits the fan, whatever it is, that becomes | 你有那种东西,你知道,狗屎 击中风扇,无论是什么, 变成 |
| 623 | about us. | 关于我们。 |
| 624 | And I feel like I've trained myself to say, like, that's not me. | 我觉得我训练过自己 说,喜欢,这不是我。 |
| 625 | That's that thing. | 就是这样 |
| 626 | Right. | 对 |
| 627 | It's like that thing didn't work. | 好像那东西没起作用 |
| 628 | It's not like I didn't work, I couldn't make it happen. | 我又不是没工作,我无法做到 |
| 629 | And it just struck me somewhat like the couple of men that have been on this podcast and | 这让我印象深刻 就像那些在播客上的男人 |
| 630 | I've made a point to make sure that I have a lot of men here, because I think we have | 我做了一点,以确保我有很多人在这里, 因为我认为我们已经 |
| 631 | so much to learn from all of these very, very successful men. | 从这些非常非常成功的男人身上学到很多东西。 |
| 632 | And that mindset to me really struck me because I was like, well, you're having fun and | 而我的这种心态真的让我印象深刻, 因为我喜欢,嗯,你玩得很开心, |
| 633 | you are definitely not taking these failures as you're like, I'm trying in the corner | 你绝对不会接受这些失败 就像你一样,我在转角 |
| 634 | and you're right. | 你说得对。 |
| 635 | You're just like moving up and toast and jam like they just getting on with it. | 你就像向上移动,吐司和果酱 就像他们刚刚得到它。 |
| 636 | And I thought that there's a real distinction in that somehow that, you know, it's not about | 我想,有一个真正的区别 不知何故,你知道,这不是关于 |
| 637 | them. | 他们。 |
| 638 | They can easily just say like this was something that happened. | 他们可以轻易地说, 事情是这样发生的。 |
| 639 | I think inherently, probably just listening to what you're saying as women and maybe | 我想从天而降,也许只是听 你所说的女人,也许 |
| 640 | that's part of that conditioning from when we're young, we're more people pleasing as | 从我们年轻时起,我们就是 更多的人喜欢 |
| 641 | well. | 不错 |
| 642 | So in leadership, you want everyone to like you. | 所以,在领导, 你希望每个人都喜欢你。 |
| 643 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 644 | You can't be a people pleaser and a leader. | 你不能成为一个人民取悦者和领袖。 |
| 645 | Well, yeah. | 对 |
| 646 | And you know, no. | 你知道,没有。 |
| 647 | And I think ultimately one of the biggest lessons that you can learn, no matter if it's | 我认为,归根结底,一个最大的教训 你可以学到,无论它是 |
| 648 | in high school, because it will still feel big or in a high profile position or just | 在高中,因为它会 感觉很大或处于高调的地位或只是 |
| 649 | as a business leader. | 作为商界领袖。 |
| 650 | No, there's not a single person in the world that everyone's going to like. | 不,世界上没有一个人是每个人都会喜欢的。 |
| 651 | So the goal cannot be that everyone likes you. | 所以目标不可能是每个人都喜欢你 |
| 652 | The goal can be that everyone respects you. | 目标可以是每个人都尊重你 |
| 653 | And as a woman, to make peace with that, I think can be a life's work, | 作为一个女人,为了和好, 我认为可以做一个生活的工作, |
| 654 | frankly. | 坦白说 |
| 655 | But the moment that that can click and that you aren't, as I've said before, | 但那一刻,可以点击, 而你不是, 正如我以前说过, |
| 656 | in the prove it game, you're not trying to prove something to everybody anymore, that | 在证明它的游戏, 你不打算证明的东西 每个人了, |
| 657 | you're very clear on who you are. | 你很清楚你是谁 |
| 658 | You know, your intention is pure and good, that you can release a lot of that attachment | 你知道,你的意图是纯洁和好的, 你可以释放很多的附属物 |
| 659 | and ultimately be much more successful because many men would not be tethered to this | 最终更成功 因为很多人不会被绑住 |
| 660 | idea of needing everyone to like them. | 需要每个人都喜欢他们 |
| 661 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 662 | No, it's a it's a really, really important point. | 不,这是个非常重要的问题。 |
| 663 | You speak a lot about financial literacy, and I know that you're interested in that | 你讲了很多关于 金融知识, 我知道你感兴趣 |
| 664 | space from an investment point of view. | 从投资角度看,空间。 |
| 665 | Of course. | 当然 |
| 666 | What's your own relationship to money like? | 你和钱是什么关系? |
| 667 | Because that is one of the things that really evolves the older that you get. | 因为这是真正进化出 年龄越大的东西之一。 |
| 668 | And so I wonder what that feels like now as you enter this new journey as a founder. | 所以我想知道现在你作为一个创始人 踏入这个新旅程是什么感觉。 |
| 669 | I think my my background really informs this. | 我觉得我的背景确实能说明这一点。 |
| 670 | I grew up clipping coupons. | 我长大了剪票。 |
| 671 | I was always money conscious, | 我总是有钱意识 |
| 672 | always looking for a sale, right? | 总是在寻找一个销售,对不对? |
| 673 | In high school, college, always finding the promo code. | 在高中,大学,总是找到宣传码. |
| 674 | I still still go on retail, may not, before I buy something online to see if there's a | 我在网上买东西 看看有没有 |
| 675 | promo code, even if it's free shipping. | 宣传代码,即使它是免费的航运。 |
| 676 | I'm just ingrained and wired in that way. | 我只是在这样缠绕和电线。 |
| 677 | And then as an auditioning actor, you never know when your next paycheck is coming. | 之后作为试镜演员,你永远不知道你下次薪水什么时候到. |
| 678 | So you're very, very mindful of spending. | 所以,你非常,非常注意开支。 |
| 679 | And so I've been very financially responsible for a long time. | 所以我很长一段时间以来 一直对经济负责 |
| 680 | And I've applied that in a lot of ways where, yes, even if there is incredible | 我用了很多方法应用了它, 是的,即使有不可思议的 |
| 681 | capital to be able to work with to build the brand, I still want to make fiscally | 资本可以合作打造品牌,我还是想在财政上 |
| 682 | wise decisions that are in the best interest of the brand. | 明智的决定 符合品牌的最大利益。 |
| 683 | I am not frivolous in spending. | 我不是在浪费。 |
| 684 | It's it's just it's not in you. | 即是无上菩提. |
| 685 | No, it's not in me. | 不,它不在我体内。 |
| 686 | And so I think that is part of one of the part of the learning. | 所以我认为这是学习的一部分。 |
| 687 | When you have a large partner as well, that there's more comfort in numbers | 当你有一个大伙伴, 数字更舒适 |
| 688 | going out the door, whereas I would go, well, hold on a minute, wait a minute. | 出去,而我会去, 好吧,等一下,等一下。 |
| 689 | Hold on a minute. | 单 |
| 690 | 我不知道Netflix的钱。 | |
| 691 | I have a friend that can do that. | 我有一个朋友可以做到这一点。 |
| 692 | What's the quote on that? | 这上面的报价是什么? |
| 693 | And that's a great way for you to approach it, though. | 这对你们来说是件好事 |
| 694 | I mean, it feels so responsible and exactly as you should be running a startup, | 我的意思是,它感到如此的责任 和正像你应该运行 启动, |
| 695 | because again, I think there was a time that we were all feeling very, very | 因为再说一遍,我觉得有段时间 我们都感到非常,非常 |
| 696 | different in businesses, like just chasing growth and, you know, trying to | 不同的企业, 就像只是追求增长, 你知道,试图 |
| 697 | get as big as possible. | 尽可能大。 |
| 698 | But it feels to me like what you're trying to build isn't necessarily about | 但我觉得你所想建造的东西 不一定是为了 |
| 699 | that. | 那个 |
| 700 | You you have a distinct product and a distinct offering that you're | 你有一个独特的产品 和独特的报价 |
| 701 | putting out into the world. | 向世界喷射。 |
| 702 | And so you have to tinker with that. | 所以,你必须修补 与此。 |
| 703 | You have to get it just right. | 你一定要弄对了 |
| 704 | And you have to do things that you're really proud of. | 你必须做你真正骄傲的事。 |
| 705 | Yes, incredibly proud of. | 是的,令人难以置信的骄傲。 |
| 706 | And also when you're not trying to be trend driven, there's there's a rush to | 而且当你不想被趋势所驱使时 就会有急于 |
| 707 | jump on a trend. | 跳到一个趋势。 |
| 708 | There is no rush if you're working towards something that could ultimately | 如果你在为最终可能实现的事业而努力,就不会太着急 |
| 709 | and hopefully become a heritage brand. | 希望成为遗产品牌。 |
| 710 | Yes. | 对 |
| 711 | When you're looking for what is like my personal aesthetic, I find it to be | 当你在寻找我个人的美学 |
| 712 | classic, timeless. | 经典,无时无刻. |
| 713 | There is a reason that I think I'm sure there was puff sleeves were cool and | 有个原因,我想我肯定 有泡泡袖子是很酷的, |
| 714 | trendy for a moment. | 时尚片刻。 |
| 715 | I didn't catch that trend. | 我可没赶上那个趋势 |
| 716 | I wasn't doing that, you know, you were still in your white button, still in my | 我没有这样做,你知道,你还在你的白色按钮,仍然在我的 |
| 717 | crisp white button down in jeans. | 穿牛仔裤的白扣 |
| 718 | And so, you know, when I look at the brand through that same lens, I think | 所以,你知道,当我看 品牌通过同样的镜头,我认为 |
| 719 | it's really important to say then there is there isn't the same sense of urgency | 说真的很重要,那么没有同样的紧迫感 |
| 720 | and rush because you're not trying to meet a moment. | 匆匆忙忙是因为你不想见面 |
| 721 | You're trying to meet something that can be evergreen. | 你试图满足的东西 可以永远绿色。 |
| 722 | Yeah, you're doing something that's with that's classic and has tradition. | 是的,你正在做一些 与它的经典和传统。 |
| 723 | And it's and like you said, it's like it's an evergreen proposition that's | 就像你说的,它就像一个常绿的命题 |
| 724 | just going to keep growing and growing. | 不断增长 |
| 725 | Yes, sounds like it will be a wonderful business, a business for the long term. | 是的,听起来这将是 一个很棒的生意, 一个长期的业务。 |
| 726 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 727 | What are you most proud of in your career when you think about everything | 在你的职业生涯中,你最骄傲的是什么 当你想的一切 |
| 728 | that you've done today? | 你今天做的吗? |
| 729 | In my career? | 我的事业? |
| 730 | Yeah, my or in your or in your like in your career in your business life, if | 是的,我或你或你喜欢 在你的职业生涯 在你的商业生活,如果 |
| 731 | you like investing in myself. | 你喜欢投资我自己。 |
| 732 | I spent so many years since we came over here really even prior to that | 我花了这么多年才来到这里 甚至之前 |
| 733 | investing in the success of other women and their companies. | 对其他妇女及其公司的成功进行投资。 |
| 734 | And I love being able to do that as we talked about with fashion. | 我喜欢像我们谈论时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时尚时 |
| 735 | And I loved being able to have a portfolio, female founders, but I do think | 女性创始人,我很喜欢有投资组合 但我确实认为 |
| 736 | it takes a little bit of courage to bet on yourself and that's felt really good. | 赌上你自己需要一点勇气 这感觉非常好 |
| 737 | Yeah, it really does. | 是的,它确实如此。 |
| 738 | It really, really does. | 痷 痷 |
| 739 | What's the most surprising thing that you've learned about yourself as you've | 什么是你学到的最令人惊讶的事情 你对自己有 |
| 740 | been like, you know, in this brand building moment of your life? | 就像,你知道, 在这个品牌建设的时刻 你的生活? |
| 741 | That I can bounce back pretty easily because you can have the best laid plans | 我很容易反弹 因为你有最好的计划 |
| 742 | for your brand. | 为了你的品牌。 |
| 743 | And if you are too attached to it, when you do have to pivot, that can be | 如果你太喜欢它, 当你确实需要支点, 那可以是 |
| 744 | crushing and to learn that as I was saying earlier, it's a dance. | 粉碎和学习,正如我之前所说, 这是一个舞蹈。 |
| 745 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 746 | Well, let's take a minute, get our footing and dance over here. | 好吧,让我们花一分钟, 让我们的脚和跳舞在这里。 |
| 747 | Let's twirl over there. | 我们去那边转转 |
| 748 | So I think similar to what you're saying about men in business, being able to find | 所以我觉得和你所说的生意上的男人 类似 能够找到 |
| 749 | the playfulness and joy in it, even though the stakes are high, just really try to | 玩乐和欢乐,尽管 赌注很高,只是真正尝试 |
| 750 | have fun in all of it. | 玩得开心点 |
| 751 | It's a great muscle to try and train yourself, like to get there. | 尝试训练自己,就像去那儿一样,这肌肉很好。 |
| 752 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 753 | To be playful in it. | 于其中作乐. |
| 754 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 755 | Who are your idols? | 你的偶像是谁? |
| 756 | Um, I'm obsessed with Oprah. | 嗯,我迷上了奥普拉。 |
| 757 | So if you could tell her for me, please. | 所以,如果你可以告诉我,请。 |
| 758 | Oh, I'll tell her. | 哦,我会告诉她。 |
| 759 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 760 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 761 | Do you know her? | 你认识她吗? |
| 762 | Have you met her? | 你见过她吗? |
| 763 | Oh, oh my God. | 瓳ぱ摆 |
| 764 | Have you met her? | 你见过她吗? |
| 765 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 766 | I met her once. | 我见过她一次。 |
| 767 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 768 | Like very recently. | 就像最近一样 |
| 769 | How'd it go? | 怎么样? |
| 770 | I'm so annoyed with myself. | 我太烦自己了 |
| 771 | I don't even know why I'm telling this story. | 我甚至不知道我为什么要讲这个故事 |
| 772 | So I know Gail really well. | 所以我很了解盖尔 |
| 773 | She's great. | 她是伟大的。 |
| 774 | And I'm at like, you know, like DVF has an Oscar luncheon. | 我像,你知道, 像DVF有一个奥斯卡午餐。 |
| 775 | I'm feeling good. | 我感觉很好。 |
| 776 | You know, it's like I've had a hard week, but I was feeling good. | 你知道,这就像我有一个艰难的一周, 但我感觉很好。 |
| 777 | I look good. | 我看起来不错。 |
| 778 | And I see Gail and next to Gail is Oprah and I'm like, and I like, she doesn't | 我看见盖尔 盖尔旁边就是欧普拉 我很喜欢她 |
| 779 | like lip read me. | 像唇读我。 |
| 780 | So I run up to Gail and I'm like, you have to introduce me to Oprah. | 所以,我跑到盖尔,我一样,你必须 介绍我到奥普拉。 |
| 781 | And by this point, like she's gone far. | 此时此刻,她好像走了很远 |
| 782 | She's gone like up the hill. | 她像上山一样走了 |
| 783 | And so Gail like screams like, oh, oh my God. | 所以盖尔喜欢尖叫,哦,我的上帝。 |
| 784 | And so everybody, the whole party like turns to look at me. | 所以,大家,整个党喜欢转身看我。 |
| 785 | Oprah's walking towards me and you know, in my head, I've been preparing | 奥普拉朝我走来 你知道 在我脑海里 我一直在准备 |
| 786 | for this conversation my whole life. | 为了这段对话,我一生。 |
| 787 | I have sunglasses on. | 我戴着太阳镜 |
| 788 | I don't take the sunglasses off. | 我不脱墨镜. |
| 789 | I sweat profusely. | 我汗流满面 |
| 790 | She's holding my hand and I don't even remember what I said. | 她握着我的手 我甚至不记得我说了什么 |
| 791 | And I was like, oh my Oprah moment. | 我当时想,哦,我的奥普拉时刻。 |
| 792 | Like that wasn't it. | 就像不是那样 |
| 793 | So you'll have another moment. | 所以,你会有另一个时间。 |
| 794 | No, there'll be an, listen, I'm a hundred percent sure. | 不,会有的,听着,我百分之百肯定。 |
| 795 | I'm channeling her into me. | 我把她引向我身边 |
| 796 | Like I'll know I'll have another moment. | 就像我会知道 我会有另一个时间。 |
| 797 | If you come up to Montecito for lunch, we can plan a lunch. | 如果你到Montecito吃午饭 我们可以安排午餐 |
| 798 | Oh my God. | 天呐 |
| 799 | I've just scored myself a date. | 我刚刚得了一个约会。 |
| 800 | We can finish the podcast now. | 我们可以完成播客。 |
| 801 | Bye. | 再见。 |
| 802 | But is there anyone that gives you the Oprah sweats like I got? | 但是有没有人像我有那样给你奥普拉的汗? |
| 803 | Or maybe not the sweats, just someone that you admire or you just find so | 也许不是汗水,只是你崇拜的人 或者你只是发现这样 |
| 804 | intriguing or whatever it might be. | 有意思的,不管是什么 |
| 805 | Oh gosh. | 天呐 |
| 806 | There, I mean, there are so many people in business, male and female. | 这里,我是说,有这么多的人 在商业,男女。 |
| 807 | 我们谈了Melody Hobbs 我非常欣赏她 | |
| 808 | Her business acumen. | 她的生意很聪明 |
| 809 | You know, I think there's probably too many to count. | 你知道,我认为可能 太多的数。 |
| 810 | And a lot of it also comes down to there are going to be people that are so well | 很多人也会这样 |
| 811 | known and then they're close friends that value their privacy in a different way | 然后他们是亲密的朋友 以不同的方式珍视隐私 |
| 812 | that I want to say their names so badly right now. | 我现在就想说出他们的名字 |
| 813 | But I, one of my idols is my very best friend. | 但我,我的偶像之一 是我最好的朋友。 |
| 814 | She's the godmother to our children. | 她是我们孩子的教母 |
| 815 | I love how she carries herself in business. | 我喜欢她做生意的方式 |
| 816 | I think she is just a remarkable human being. | 我认为她只是一个了不起的人。 |
| 817 | So it's important to say that the idols that exist on a very large scale, there's | 所以,重要的是说, 存在于非常大尺度上的偶像, |
| 818 | value there without question, but you can sometimes look at the people that are | 价值是毫无疑问的, 但你有时可以看 人是什么 |
| 819 | right in front of you. | 就在你们面前 |
| 820 | And see them as idols as well. | 并视其为偶像. |
| 821 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 822 | Listen, life gets really good when you are like that with your idols, when | 听着,当你和偶像在一起的时候,生活会变得很美好 |
| 823 | they're in your life. | 它们在你生活中。 |
| 824 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 825 | And that's something that you can say with honesty. | 你可以诚实地说 |
| 826 | I think that's pretty, pretty impressive actually. | 我觉得这真的很漂亮,相当令人印象深刻。 |
| 827 | I really do. | 我真的喜欢 |
| 828 | And looking ahead, what audacious goal do you have that you are like looking | 展望未来,你有多么大胆的目标 你就像看着 |
| 829 | forward to and is like on your mind right now? | 和现在一样? |
| 830 | Oh goodness. | 天呐 |
| 831 | Um, the scale of this business. | 嗯,这个生意的规模。 |
| 832 | I don't know if that's an audacious goal. | 我不知道这是否是一个大胆的目标。 |
| 833 | That's a, that's an audacious. | 这是,这是一个大胆的。 |
| 834 | I think so. | 我想是这样。 |
| 835 | I'll take that. | 我来 |
| 836 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 837 | Yes. | 对 |
| 838 | I'll take that. | 我来 |
| 839 | And then the, what comes after that? | 然后,接下来呢? |
| 840 | I'm what does come off that? | 我从哪里来的? |
| 841 | What do you, do you have a, like, do you know what you want to be | 你有什么,你有一样, 你知道你想成为什么 |
| 842 | doing in the next 10 years? | 在接下来的十年里做? |
| 843 | Not exactly, but probably in the wheelhouse of what it could be. | 不确切,但可能是在车轮之屋 它可能是什么。 |
| 844 | I want to continue to work with really strong, creative people. | 我想继续和真正有创造力的人合作。 |
| 845 | I want to tap into the audience and the demographic that's with | 我想利用观众和人口 |
| 846 | me in that present moment. | 我在这瞬间 |
| 847 | And so this is one chapter. | 所以这是一章。 |
| 848 | Life has many chapters and you have to think. | 生活有很多章节,你必须思考。 |
| 849 | You know, the next 10 years, we're both going to be in our fifties. | 你知道,接下来的10年, 我们都将在我们的50岁。 |
| 850 | Get excited. | 兴奋点 |
| 851 | It's going to be great. | 将作大势. |
| 852 | Are you excited? | 你兴奋吗? |
| 853 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 854 | Would you ever do your twenties again? | 你还会做你的20多岁吗? |
| 855 | Hard no. | 难否. |
| 856 | I can't even get the words out. | 我连字都写不出来 |
| 857 | No, my twenties are choking me. | 不,我的20多岁在窒息我。 |
| 858 | Absolutely not. | 绝对不是。 |
| 859 | Never. | 从来没有。 |
| 860 | No, no girls enjoy your twenties right now. | 不,现在没有女孩享受你的20多岁。 |
| 861 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 862 | It's hard. | 难曰. |
| 863 | Don't worry. | 别担心 |
| 864 | It will pass. | 它会过去的。 |
| 865 | I think the 50, I think fifties are going to be great. | 我认为50, 我认为50将是伟大的。 |
| 866 | That will be a different audience. | 那会是不同的观众。 |
| 867 | I'm speaking to you or they will have grown with me. | 我在跟你说话,不然他们会跟我一起长大的 |
| 868 | So I, yeah, I'm sort of noodling on what I want to do then. | 所以我,是的,我有点 挂在我想做什么。 |
| 869 | And that planning starts now. | 计划现在开始 |
| 870 | That planning really starts now. | 计划真的开始了。 |
| 871 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 872 | Finally, what advice would you give your younger self about ambition, | 最后,你有什么建议 会给你的年轻自己 关于野心, |
| 873 | about purpose, about public life? | 关于目的, 关于公共生活? |
| 874 | What would you say? | 你会说什么? |
| 875 | That is such a full question. | 这是一个如此全面的问题。 |
| 876 | Go on. | 继续 |
| 877 | Give me a full answer. | 给我一个完整的答案。 |
| 878 | Oh my goodness. | 天呐 |
| 879 | Well, I would say that life is full of surprises and also that, you know, life | 嗯,我会说,生活充满了惊喜 还有,你知道,生活 |
| 880 | is short and I really believe that no matter what anyone is going through, that | 时间很短 我真的相信 不管任何人经历什么 |
| 881 | if you are able to say that yes, this is going to pass or this is amazing and | 如果你能说,是的,这是要过去 或者这是惊人的, |
| 882 | let's really embrace it, that you're ultimately going to have that perspective. | 让我们真正地拥抱它, 你最终会有这种观点。 |
| 883 | We talked about earlier, you know, that Khalil Gibran book, a tear and a smile. | 我们刚才谈到哈利勒·吉布兰的书 泪水和微笑 |
| 884 | Oh, it's such a good one. | 哦,这是一个很好的。 |
| 885 | You need both. | 两者都需要 |
| 886 | It's such a good one. | 如此妙义. |
| 887 | You need both in this life. | 这辈子你都需要两个 |
| 888 | And I think the moment that you can recognize that both are going to be true | 我认为当你意识到 两者都将是真实的 |
| 889 | in your life, you cannot just be an acceptance of it. | 在你的生活中,你不能只是接受它。 |
| 890 | You can actually be in gratitude for it. | 你可以为它而感恩 |
| 891 | And to see what others might say is, I don't know, Jordan has a great quote and | 看别人会说什么,我不知道, 乔丹有一个伟大的引言, |
| 892 | I'm going to butcher it, but he literally says like, there are no failures because | 我要宰了它,但是他说没有失败,因为 |
| 893 | every time he failed, I was learning something. | 每次他失败 我都会学到一些东西 |
| 894 | So you're actually winning because that knowledge is what you carry with you. | 所以你真的赢了,因为你带着这种知识。 |
| 895 | So I think, yeah, my younger self, gosh, she was my 15 year old self. | 所以我想,是的,我年轻的自己,天哪, 她是我的15岁。 |
| 896 | She was class president. | 她是班长 |
| 897 | She was multicultural club president. | 她是多文化俱乐部主席。 |
| 898 | She was so busy. | 她当时很忙 |
| 899 | And, um, yeah, I think my 15 year old self be really proud of me today. | 嗯,是的,我想我的15岁 自己今天真的为我骄傲。 |
| 900 | I do. | 当然 |
| 901 | And that makes me happy. | 这让我高兴 |
| 902 | So you should be. | 所以,你应该。 |
| 903 | Thanks. | 谢谢 |
| 904 | I have no doubt. | 我毫无疑问 |
| 905 | What are you currently aspiring for in your business life? | 你目前对于你的生意有什么期望? |
| 906 | Success, not just financial success, emotional success. | 成功,不仅仅是财政上的成功,情感上的成功. |
| 907 | Great answer. | 答案不错 |
| 908 | And what are you currently aspiring for in your personal life? | 你个人生活中的渴望是什么? |
| 909 | Success, emotional success. | 成功,情感上的成功。 |
| 910 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 911 | Happiness. | 悦曰. |
| 912 | What is a book that changed your life? | 什么书改变了你的生活? |
| 913 | Ooh, Atomic Habits. | 哦,原子哈比特人。 |
| 914 | It's a good one. | 谓善根. |
| 915 | It is a great book. | 这是一个伟大的书。 |
| 916 | It's a great book. | 其书甚盛. |
| 917 | Uh, yeah. | 对 |
| 918 | Atomic Habits, the four agreements. | 原子哈比人 四项协议 |
| 919 | Oh, another really good one. | 哦,另一个真的很好。 |
| 920 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 921 | Different, different ends of the spectrum. | 不同的,不同的光谱端. |
| 922 | Total different ends of the spectrum, but equally valuable. | 完全不同,但同样价值。 |
| 923 | Really, really teachable. | 真的,真的可以教书。 |
| 924 | Um, what's something that you valued when you were starting out | 嗯,什么是你重视的东西 当你开始的时候 |
| 925 | that you no longer value? | 你不再珍惜吗? |
| 926 | Hmm. | 是吗? |
| 927 | It's not that I, it's not that I no longer value it, but. | 不是说我,不是说我不再重视它,但是... |
| 928 | Decision by committee, meaning when you're like, do you think it's good? | 由委员会来决定,意思是当你喜欢的时候,你觉得很好吗? |
| 929 | Do you think it's good? | 你觉得很好吗? |
| 930 | Do you like that? | 你喜欢吗? |
| 931 | Do you think it's good? | 你觉得很好吗? |
| 932 | Well, if you start asking everybody all the time, you will be | 好吧,如果你开始问每个人 所有的时间,你会 |
| 933 | dizzy with the ideas of it. | 头晕脑海 |
| 934 | So instead ask your two trusted people or three, whatever your handful of your, | 而不是问你的二个或三个人 不管你的手, |
| 935 | you know, your little committee, your consigli areas, and then trust yourself. | 你知道,你的小委员会,你的圈套, 然后相信你自己。 |
| 936 | What's something that you value now that you didn't back in the day? | 你当年没回来有什么价值? |
| 937 | Giving myself permission to take the space and the time that I need. | 允许自己占用我所需要的空间和时间 |
| 938 | The space for grace, giving yourself a minute until you feel clear | 宽雅的空间,给自己一分钟 直到你感到清醒 |
| 939 | and you feel confident is key. | 你感到自信是关键 |
| 940 | And at the beginning, I probably did feel a little bit more of like, | 一开始,我可能感觉有点像, |
| 941 | okay, what this expectation, the moment that you can just like rejig that. | 好吧,这是什么期望, 那一刻,你可以 只是喜欢重划。 |
| 942 | I appreciate that. | 我很感激。 |
| 943 | I'm there now. | 我现在在那里。 |
| 944 | Love that one. | 喜欢这个。 |
| 945 | Beautiful. | 美丽 |
| 946 | Thank you so much. | 非常感谢 |
| 947 | This is so good. | 这太棒了 |
| 948 | Thanks for joining me on the Aspire podcast for more strategies on how to | 谢谢你加入我 阿斯庇尔播客的行列 |
| 949 | build the life of your dreams. | 建立你梦想的生活。 |
| 950 | Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel. | 一定要订阅我们的YouTube频道. |
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