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如何利用多巴胺克服拖延症、保持动力并增强自信心

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0:00Dopamine is a topic that I've covered before on this podcast多巴胺是我之前在播客节目中 报道过的话题
0:02and many people have heard of dopamine.很多人听说过多巴胺
0:05Most people know that dopamine is involved in pleasure大多数人都知道多巴胺与快乐有关
0:08to some extent or another.某种程度上说
0:09And nowadays people are starting to appreciate现在人们开始欣赏
0:11that dopamine is also intimately involved多巴胺也有密切参与
0:14with motivation, drive and pursuit.动机、动力和追求
0:17Well, today you're going to learn that indeed嗯,今天你会学到这一点
0:19dopamine is responsible for all of those things,多巴胺对所有这些事情负责,
0:22but you are also going to learn that dopamine is critical但你也要知道多巴胺很关键
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1Dopamine is a topic that I've covered before on this podcast多巴胺是我之前在播客节目中 报道过的话题
2and many people have heard of dopamine.很多人听说过多巴胺
3Most people know that dopamine is involved in pleasure大多数人都知道多巴胺与快乐有关
4to some extent or another.某种程度上说
5And nowadays people are starting to appreciate现在人们开始欣赏
6that dopamine is also intimately involved多巴胺也有密切参与
7with motivation, drive and pursuit.动机、动力和追求
8Well, today you're going to learn that indeed嗯,今天你会学到这一点
9dopamine is responsible for all of those things,多巴胺对所有这些事情负责,
10but you are also going to learn that dopamine is critical但你也要知道多巴胺很关键
11for overcoming procrastination,克服拖延,
12for ensuring ongoing motivation确保持续积极性
13and indeed for ensuring confidence.和确保信心。
14In fact, we are going to talk about the relationship事实上,我们要谈谈关系
15between dopamine and motivation and confidence多巴胺与动机和信心之间
16at the level of neurobiological circuitry.在神经生物电路的水平。
17And we are going to cover tools that will allow you我们将覆盖工具 让你
18to leverage your dopamine in order to have来利用你的多巴胺 以获得
19a maximum motivation to overcome sticking points,克服症结的最大动机,
20which include things like procrastination,包括诸如拖延之类的事物,
21but also by understanding the neural circuits也通过理解神经电路
22in the brain and body that release and use dopamine.在大脑和身体 释放和使用多巴胺。
23But more importantly, by understanding但更重要的是,通过理解
24what are called dopamine dynamics,所谓的多巴胺动力学,
25that is what gives rise to big peaks in dopamine这就是引起多巴胺大峰的原因
26or troughs in dopamine or what's referred to或多巴胺中的槽或指什么
27as our baseline level of dopamine,作为我们多巴胺的基准水平,
28which turns out to be our baseline levels of motivation这证明是我们动机的基线水平
29and feelings of wellbeing.和幸福的感觉。
30By understanding how those things relate to one another,通过了解这些事情是如何相互联系的,
31I assure you that by the end of today's episode,我向你保证,到今天的剧集结束时,
32you will be in a far better position你会处于一个更好的位置
33to understand why you become amotivated,知道你为什么变得有动机,
34why you procrastinate, how to ensure motivation为什么拖延,如何确保动机
35on an ongoing basis, and even how to leverage effort持续进行,甚至如何利用努力
36and the desire to become motivated as a way to do just that,并渴望成为动机 作为这样做的方式,
37to become more motivated.变得更有动力。
38Today's discussion is not about psychology,今天讨论的不是心理学
39although I will center around practical everyday examples虽然我会以日常的实践为中心
40and offer many, many tools that you can implement并提供很多工具,你可以实施
41if you choose.如果你选择。
42Today's discussion is really about pulling apart今天的讨论其实是想拆散
43these things that we call motivation, reward,这些东西,我们称之为动机,奖励,
44pleasure, procrastination, and understanding them欢乐 拖延 理解他们
45in terms of their dopamine dynamics.在多巴胺的动力学方面
46So whether you've heard me or others talk about dopamine所以,无论你听到我 或其他人谈论多巴胺
47before, or whether or not today is your first exposure之前 或者今天是不是第一次曝光
48to the topic of dopamine, today's episode is really designed关于多巴胺,今天的剧集是真正设计的
49to give you the biological and practical knowledge让你掌握生物和实用知识
50so that you can leverage your dopamine circuitry这样你就可以利用你的多巴胺电路
51and your dopamine levels, as well as tools和你的多巴胺水平 以及工具
52to adjust dopamine circuitry and levels调整多巴胺电路和水平
53in order to optimize mental health, physical health,为了优化心理健康、身体健康,
54and performance.和表现。
55Before we begin, I'd like to emphasize that this podcast在我们开始之前 我想强调这个播客
56is separate from my teaching and research roles at Stanford.和我在斯坦福的教学和研究角色分开
57It is, however, part of my desire and effort但是,这是我的愿望和努力的一部分
58to bring zero cost to consumer information给消费者信息带来零成本
59about science and science-related tools关于科学和科学相关工具
60to the general public.致大众曰.
61In keeping with that theme, I'd like to thank the sponsors根据这个主题,我要感谢提案国。
62of today's podcast.今天播客。
63我们的第一位赞助商是Helix Sleep.
64Helix Sleep makes mattresses and pillows睡吧 做床垫和枕头
65that are the absolute highest quality.这是绝对最高的质量。
66I've talked many times before on this and other podcasts我之前说过很多次 关于这个和其他播客
67about the critical role that sleep plays关于睡眠的关键作用
68in allowing you to be awake and alert让你清醒和警觉
69and have a good elevated mood throughout the day.并有一个良好的情绪 一整天。
70Sleep is just fundamental to our mental health,睡眠对我们的心理健康来说是最基本的
71physical health, and performance,身体健康和表现,
72and there's no replacing great sleep.没有替代伟大的睡眠。
73A key thing we all need in order to get excellent sleep我们都需要一个关键的东西 才能好好睡觉
74is to have an ideal sleep environment.要有一个理想的睡眠环境。
75Helix mattresses are designed for your unique sleep needs螺旋床垫是为你独特的睡眠需求设计的
76in order to ensure that you get为了保证你得到
77the best possible night's sleep.最好的夜晚睡觉。
78So if you go to the Helix site如果你去Helix网站的话
79and you take their very brief two or three minute quiz,你给他们做两三分钟的测验
80it will ask you questions such as,它会问你一些问题,
81do you sleep on your side, your back, or your stomach?你睡在一边,背上,还是肚子?
82Do you tend to run hot or cold throughout the night?你整晚都热还是冷?
83And they will match you to a mattress他们会把你比作床垫
84that's specific to your sleep needs.这符合你的睡眠需要
85I matched to the Dusk mattress,我比对了黄昏床垫
86that's the one that works for me,那是为我工作的那个
87and since sleeping on the Dusk mattress自从睡在黄昏床垫上
88now for well over two years,两年多来,
89I've been sleeping better than I ever have before.我睡得比以前好过
90So if you go to their site, you take the quiz所以,如果你去他们的网站, 你参加考试
91and you figure out what's the ideal mattress for you.你想想你最理想的床垫是什么
92去螺旋睡觉. comslash Huberman,
93take their two minute sleep quiz给他们两分钟的睡眠测验
94and they'll match you to a customized mattress他们会把你配成定制床垫
95and you'll get up to $350 off any mattress order任何床垫订单你都可以拿到350美元
96and two free pillows.和两个免费枕头。
97Again, if interested,再次,如果有兴趣,
98你可以去Helixsleep.com slash Huberman (美国英语).
99for up to $350 off and two free pillows.最多350美元 和两个免费枕头。
100Today's episode is also brought to us by Whoop.今天的剧集也是由Hhoop带给我们的.
101Whoop is a fitness wearable device呜呼是健身设备
102that tracks your daily activity and sleep,跟踪你的日常活动和睡眠,
103but also goes beyond that by providing real-time feedback此外,还可以提供实时反馈
104on how to adjust your physical training and sleep schedule如何调整身体训练和睡眠时间
105and other activities throughout your day和其他活动
106in order to optimize your health.为了优化健康
107I've been working with Whoop我一直和呜呼合作
108on their scientific advisory council科学咨询委员会成员名单
109to help advance Whoop's technology and mission帮助推进呼和浩特的技术和使命
110of unlocking human performance,解锁人类的表演,
111not just for athletes, but for everybody.不仅为运动员,而且为每个人。
112As a Whoop user, I've experienced the health benefits作为Hhoop用户,我经历过健康福利
113of their technology firsthand.他们的技术第一手。
114For instance, it tells me, of course,例如,它告诉我,当然,
115whether or not I had a good night's sleep睡得好吗?
116or a poor night's sleep by giving me a sleep score.或通过给我一个睡眠分数 来睡得可怜
117It tells me the percentage of rapid eye movement,它告诉我快速眼动的百分比,
118sleep to slow wave sleep,睡觉慢浪睡眠,
119but Whoop also tells me, for instance,但是Whoop也告诉我,比如,
120whether or not certain activities during my daytime,无论我白天是否从事某些活动,
121such as naps or training如小睡或训练
122or training of a certain amount of intensity,或训练某种强度,
123how that's impacting my sleep and vice versa.这会影响我的睡眠,反之亦然。
124If you're interested in trying Whoop,如果你有兴趣尝试呼呼,
125你可以去加入. whoop.com slash Huberman. 黑手党的党卫队
126再说一遍,今天加入.whoop.com slash Huberman
127and you'll get your first month free.你会得到你的第一个月免费。
128Today's episode is also brought to us by Roca.今天的剧集也是罗卡带给我们的.
129Roca makes eyeglasses and sunglasses罗卡制造眼镜和太阳镜
130that are uniquely tailored to the needs of athletes适合运动员需要的
131and everyday people.和日常的人们。
132The company was founded by two all-American swimmers公司是由两个全美游泳运动员创办的
133from Stanford, and everything about Roca eyeglasses斯坦福的,还有罗卡眼镜的事
134and sunglasses were designed with the biology,和太阳镜的设计与生物学,
135the visual system in mind.视觉系统。
136I've spent a lifetime working on the biology,我一生都在研究生物学
137the visual system, and I can tell you视觉系统,我可以告诉你
138that your visual system has to contend你的视觉系统必须对抗
139with enormous number of challenges面临大量挑战
140in order for you to be able to see clearly.以便你能够清楚地看到。
141Roca eyeglasses and sunglasses are designed such罗卡眼镜和太阳镜的设计是这样的
142that when you go from one environment to the next,当你从一个环境到另一个环境,
143like a brightly lit environment就像亮亮的环境
144to a less brightly lit environment,到一个亮度较低的环境,
145you don't notice that transition.你没有注意到这种转变。
146You always see with perfect clarity.你总是非常清晰地看到
147Another terrific thing about Roca eyeglasses罗卡眼镜的又一件好事
148and sunglasses is that many of the performance glasses太阳镜就是很多表演眼镜
149out there that are designed for sport在那里,设计为运动
150make people look like cyborgs, which if you want that,让人们看起来像机器人, 如果你想这样,
151they do have those options,他们确实有这些选择,
152the cyborg options as I call them,我称之为机器人的选项
153but they also have many options where the aesthetic但也有很多选择 美学
154is more of the sort that you would wear to dinner更像是你会穿 晚餐
155or to work or anywhere that you happen to be.或工作 或任何地方你碰巧。
156If you'd like to try Roca eyeglasses or sunglasses,如果你想试试罗卡眼镜或太阳镜
157go to Roca, that's R-O-K-A.com去罗卡,那是R -O
158and enter the code Huberman to save 20% off your first order.输入密码Huberman 以保存20%的第一订单。
159Again, that's Roca, R-O-K-A.com再说一遍,这是罗卡,R -O
160and enter the code Huberman at checkout.并输入密码 休伯曼在离职。
161The Huberman Lab podcast is now partnered休伯曼实验室播客现在合作了
162with Momentous Supplements.与瞬间补充。
163To find the supplements we discussed为了找到我们讨论过的补编
164on the Huberman Lab podcast,在休伯曼实验室播客,
165you can go to Live Momentous,你可以去"生命时刻"
166拼音为O-U-S,livermomentous.com slash Huberman. 中国新闻网.
167And I should just mention that the library我只想说图书馆
168of those supplements is constantly expanding.这些补充剂正在不断增加。
169再说一遍,这是活泼的.com slash Huberman.
170Okay, let's talk about dopamine.好吧,让我们谈谈多巴胺。
171What is dopamine?什么是多巴胺吗?
172Dopamine is what's called a neuromodulator,多巴胺是所谓的神经调节剂,
173which simply refers to the fact that it's a chemical它只是指它是一种化学物质
174that modulates or changes the electrical activity调节或改变电活动
175of other cells.其他细胞。
176And the cells I'm referring to are neurons.我指的是神经元
177Neurons are just nerve cells.神经细胞只是神经细胞
178So you have a brain and a spinal cord所以你有大脑和脊髓
179and the neurons in your brain and spinal cord大脑和脊髓中的神经元
180connect to one another互相连接
181and they connect to different areas of the body,它们连接身体的不同区域,
182including basically every organ of your body.基本上包括你身体的每一个器官
183And every organ of your body communicates back你身体的每一个器官都会回馈
184to your brain and spinal cord你的大脑和脊髓
185through direct or indirect pathways.通过直接或间接的途径。
186For instance, you have neurons in your gut比如说,你肚子里有神经元
187that sense what sorts of nutrients you've eaten or drank感觉到你吃过或喝过什么营养
188and then send neural signals, electrical signals,然后发出神经信号 电讯信号
189up to the brain.直达大脑。
190And indeed, that whole process事实上,整个过程
191happens to be modulated by dopamine.恰好被多巴胺调制.
192Dopamine as a neuromodulator has the basic property多巴胺作为神经调节剂具有基本属性
193of either ramping up, increasing,或升起,或升起,
194or decreasing the activity of other neurons.或减少其他神经元的活动.
195And that's done by adjusting things这是通过调整事物来完成的
196like electrical potentials and things of that sort像电力潜力之类的东西
197that we really won't go into this episode,我们真的不会进入这一集,
198but that I promise to get into in detail但我保证会深入调查
199in a future episode if you're interested如果你有兴趣的话
200in the biochemistry and biophysics of neurons在神经元的生物化学和生物物理学中
201and things of that sort.和类似的东西。
202So we have this neuromodulator, dopamine,我们有神经调节器 多巴胺
203and we know that that neuromodulator我们知道神经调节器
204can increase or decrease the activity of other neurons.可以增减其他神经元的活性.
205So then we have to ask ourselves所以我们得问问自己
206where is dopamine released in the brain and body大脑和体内多巴胺的释放地点
207and what specific types of neurons is it impacting?它会影响哪些特定的神经元?
208In other words, what specific types of functions换言之,什么类型的职能
209does dopamine have?多巴胺有吗?
210So there are basically five circuits within the brain所以大脑里基本上有五个电路
211that use dopamine as the primary neuromodulator用多巴胺作为主要神经调节器
212and those five circuits engage different这五个电路是不同的
213but related functions.但相关功能。
214So I'm gonna go through them one by one relatively quickly,所以我要一个一个地通过他们 相对快,
215giving you a little bit of nomenclature给你一些术语
216and some sense of what each of those circuits looks like和一些感觉 每一个这些线路看起来像
217and what it does.以及它会做什么。
218The first circuit is the so-called nigrostriatal pathway.第一个电路是所谓的尼格罗斯特里亚特通道.
219So in the back of the brain,所以在脑后
220there's an area called substantia nigra,有一个叫做亚硝基亚的区域,
221so named because the neurons, they are actually very dark所以命名是因为神经元 实际上是非常黑暗
222and they actually contain pigment.而且它们实际上含有色素。
223You'd be able to see this if I were to slice up a brain,如果我把大脑切开 你会看到这个的
224you'd see two dark regions in the back.你会看到后面的两个黑暗区域
225That's substantia nigra.这是亚斯坦尼格拉。
226Substantia nigra contains neurons亚硝基亚含有神经元
227that are chock-a-block full of dopamine,里面全是多巴胺,
228but they release that dopamine但是他们释放出多巴胺
229in a brain structure called the striatum.在一个脑结构中, 被称为striatum。
230The striatum is involved in movement,刺客参与运动,
231both the initiation of movements运动的开始
232and the suppression of movements.和压制运动。
233In so-called go, action, and no-go,在所谓的去,行动,和不走,
234suppress action pathways, a topic for a future podcast.压制动作路径,未来播客的话题.
235The second brain circuit that uses and leverages dopamine使用和杠杆作用多巴胺的第二条脑电路
236to a great extent is the so-called mesolimbic pathway.在很大程度上,所谓的 " 中庸之路 " 。
237Now you'll also in a moment hear现在你也会听到的
238about the mesocortical pathway.关于中枢道。
239So today I'm going to talk about these今天我要谈这些
240somewhat interchangeably at times,有时有些交替
241but where it's important for me但对我很重要的地方
242to differentiate between them, I will do that.为了区分他们,我会这样做。
243Both of these pathways initiate from a set of neurons这两条路径都来自神经元
244in the so-called ventral tegmental area or VTA.在所谓的口腔构造区或VTA。
245I will use that acronym, VTA.我会用这个缩写,VTA。
246The VTA functions in close partnership瓦努阿图信托机构以密切的伙伴关系运作
247with a different brain structure大脑结构不同
248called the nucleus accumbens, or NA.叫做核糖体,或NA。
249I don't think I'll call it NA today.我今天不叫它"NA"了
250I'll talk about VTA, ventral tegmental area,我会说VTA, 腹股沟区域,
251and I'll talk about nucleus accumbens.我将谈论 核阿库姆本。
252For sake of today's discussion,为了今天的讨论,
253you can lump those together if you want.如果你愿意的话,你可以把它们拼在一起。
254Neurons in those areas project a bunch of different places,这些地区的神经元 预测了很多不同的地方,
255but in the mesolimbic pathway,却在迷途中,
256those neurons are projecting to areas of the brain这些神经元正在投射到大脑的区域
257like the hypothalamus,像下丘脑,
258which sits right above the roof of your mouth它坐在你嘴顶上
259and is responsible for a lot of basic functions,并负责许多基本职能,
260things like maintaining your body temperature,比如保持体温
261for libido and the pursuit of sex,性欲与追求
262for hunger, for the generation of signals为饥饿,为产生信号
263to the pituitary gland that caused the release of hormones导致激素释放的垂体腺
264and other things into the bloodstream.还有其他进入血液的东西
265So the connections,所以,连接,
266which I sometimes refer to as projections,我有时称之为预测
267from the neurons in the VTA and nucleus accumbens从VTA的神经元 和核蓄积物
268to the hypothalamus are basically using dopamine到下丘脑基本上使用多巴胺
269to modulate the output of a lot of different things来调节很多不同事物的输出
270that happen in this hypothalamus that controls a lot of,发生在这个控制了很多的下丘脑上,
271we could call them primitive functions,我们可以称之为原始功能,
272but they're really basic functions for survival.但它们是生存的基本功能
273Now, the other pathway out of the VTA现在,VTA的另一条出路
274and nucleus accumbens is to the cortex.和核亚昆本是皮层。
275That's why it's called mesocortical pathway.故名为中道.
276So this is a very different pathway因此,这是一个非常不同的路径
277从 VTA 和 ccumbens 中
278than the one I just described a moment ago.比我刚才描述的要好
279The pathway I'm talking about now,我现在说的路
280the mesocortical pathway,中枢的路径,
281projects to the prefrontal cortex,项目到前额皮层,
282which is a structure that many of you have perhaps heard of,这是你们中许多人所听说过的结构,
283but even if you haven't, it's important to know但即使你没有, 重要的是要知道
284this is an area that resides right behind your forehead这个区域就住在你的额头后面
285and that in humans compared to other species人类和其他物种相比
286is greatly expanded in terms of its size其规模大为扩大。
287and complexity of function.和职能的复杂性。
288So it's involved in everything所以它涉及一切
289from planning and executing of action从规划和执行行动
290to making good or bad decisions depending on context.做出好坏的决定取决于背景
291In fact, one of the primary functions事实上,主要职能之一
292of prefrontal cortex is to really understand context,前额皮质就是真正理解背景
293whether or not, for instance,是否,例如,
294you are alone in your room你一个人在房间里
295where certain behaviors are appropriate,如果某些行为是适当的,
296whether or not you are at work无论你是否在工作
297where other behaviors are appropriate.在其他行为适合的地方。
298Understanding what the context is了解背景是什么
299and therefore what sorts of actions并因此采取什么行动
300need to be generated and suppressed.需要产生和抑制。
301In fact, a guest on the Huberman Lab podcast,事实上 休伯曼实验室播客的客人
302and this is a guest whose episode hasn't aired yet,这位嘉宾的剧集还没有播出
303described this beautifully.说得真好
304He's a neurosurgeon and he said,他是个神经外科医生 他说
305the way to think about the prefrontal cortex如何思考前额皮层
306is it's basically an area of the brain that says shh基本上是大脑的一个区域 说嘘
307or no, not now to other brain regions现在不是其他大脑区域
308in order to suppress action.以压制行动。
309And we know this because people that have damage我们知道这一点,因为人们有损害
310to the prefrontal cortex到前额皮层
311often can't suppress their impulses.经常无法抑制他们的冲动.
312So the pathway from VTA and nucleus accumbens因此,从VTA和核蓄本的路径
313to the prefrontal cortex is absolutely critical对前额皮质来说是绝对关键的
314for today's discussion供今天讨论
315because we are largely going to be discussing因为我们基本上要讨论
316motivation, drive, pursuit, procrastination,动机、动力、追求、拖延
317and all sorts of things that have to do和各种事情必须做
318with our feelings about context,我们对于背景的感受,
319whether or not we want to do something or not,不管我们是否想做什么
320whether or not we feel we should or we shouldn't,无论我们是否觉得我们应该或不应该,
321whether or not we feel we failed the last time我们是否觉得上次失败了
322or there's a high probability of success the next time.或者下次成功的可能性很高。
323Prefrontal cortex does many, many things,前额皮层做很多很多事情,
324but when thinking about dopamine's role但当想到多巴胺的作用时
325in the prefrontal cortex,在前额皮质中,
326that is when thinking about this mesocortical pathway,即当想到这种中枢途径时,
327we really want to think about how dopamine is activating我们很想想想多巴胺是如何激活的
328or changing our propensity to do certain things或者改变我们做某些事情的倾向
329and get us into action or prevent us并让我们进入行动或阻止我们
330from doing certain things and prevent action.不做某些事情 并阻止行动。
331So basically you can think about the mesocortical pathway所以,基本上你可以思考 中枢路径
332as a circuit that really governs all of the major choices作为真正支配所有重大选择的线路
333that you're going to make in life about what to do你会在生活中 做出该怎么做
334and what not to do toward your goals和什么不做 你的目标
335and away from the things that you want to avoid.远离你所要避免的。
336Now, the fourth dopamine pathway in the brain现在,大脑中的第四个多巴胺途径
337is the so-called tuberoinfundibular pathway.是所谓的管状方形路径。
338And this is not one we're going to focus on too much today.今天我们不会把太多精力放在这个上。
339This is a pathway that relates to connections这是一个连接的路径
340between the brain and your pituitary gland.大脑和你的垂体腺之间
341Your pituitary gland being that gland that's,你的垂体腺就是那个腺体
342as I mentioned a moment ago,正如我刚才提到的,
343is also receiving input from the hypothalamus正在接收下丘脑输入
344and is releasing a bunch of hormones into your bloodstream,释放出一堆激素 进入你的血液,
345things like luteinizing hormone,比如润滑激素
346follicle stimulating hormone,卵泡刺激激素,
347things like melanocortin hormone.类似美兰果素激素的东西。
348These are hormones that are impacting everything这些激素影响着一切
349from the function of the ovary and females卵巢和雌性的功能
350to the function of the testes and males.以测试和雄性的作用。
351It's governing things like cortisol release under stress,在压力下释放皮质溶液
352thyroid hormone,甲状腺激素,
353meaning it's regulating thyroid hormone release,意思是它能调节甲状腺激素的释放
354and on and on.不停地说
355Dopamine has a very powerful impact多巴胺影响很大
356on the output of the pituitary.。关于垂体输出。
357So again, that's probably a topic for a future episode,再说一遍 这也许是未来一集的主题
358but it's important in reviewing the different brain circuits但重要的是审查不同的脑电路
359that use dopamine as a neuromodulator将多巴胺用作神经调节器
360that I mentioned that one.我提到了那个。
361Then there's a fifth one,还有第五个
362and this fifth one is not often discussed,而这第五个没有经常讨论,
363and again, won't be the main topic of today's discussion,再说一遍,今天讨论的主要话题不是
364but for thoroughness and for clarity,惟求彻底和明白,
365it's important that we mention it.这很重要,我们提到它。
366This is the circuit within your retina,这是你视网膜内的电路
367that is the pie crust-like lining of neural tissue那是像馅饼一样的神经组织内衬
368on the back of your eye,在你眼皮底下,
369because remember, your eye is actually part of your brain因为记住 你的眼睛其实是大脑的一部分
370that got extruded from your brain during development.在你的大脑发育过程中被挤出。
371You know, those two eyes that you see in the mirror你知道,你在镜子里看到的那双眼睛
372and that you see in other people和你们在别处所看见的,
373are actually two pieces of central nervous system,其实是两块中枢神经系统,
374and within the retina,在视网膜内部,
375which is the neural portion of the eye,是眼睛的神经部位,
376within the neural retina,在神经视网膜内,
377dopamine is responsible for adapting多巴胺负责适应
378to different light conditions不同的光线条件
379so that you can see clearly both in the evening以便你们在傍晚看见这两件事,
380and when it gets darker, you can still see a bit,等天黑了,你还能看见一点
381and in the morning when it's very bright,早晨,当它非常亮亮的时候,
382you don't really have to make adjustments你不需要调整
383to your visual system in order to see clearly.进入你的视觉系统,以便清晰地看到。
384Your visual system does it for you,你的视觉系统为你服务
385and one of the ways that it does that以及它这样做的方式之一
386is through the neuromodulator dopamine.是通过神经调节器多巴胺。
387So today, we are not going to discuss所以今天我们不讨论
388the retinal dopamine pathways视网膜多巴胺途径
389or the tuberoinfundibular dopamine pathways,或多巴胺途径,
390and we won't really talk so much我们不会说太多
391about the nigrostriatal pathway.关于尼格罗斯特里亚特的路径。
392I'll say one more thing about it,我再说一件事
393and then I'll leave it alone.然后,我会离开它。
394We are going to talk about the mesocortical pathway,我们要谈谈迷幻之路
395and we might touch on the mesolimbic pathway我们可能接触 孤独的路径
396a little bit as well.有点像。
397So today, we're mostly going to talk今天,我们主要要谈谈
398about mesocortical circuitry and function关于中间电路和功能
399and dopamine within the mesocortical circuit,和多巴胺在中枢电路内,
400and the reason that we're doing that我们这样做的原因
401is that today's discussion is really about motivation,今天的讨论其实是关于动机的
402procrastination, goal setting, and pursuit.拖延,目标设定,和追逐。
403It's very important to understand了解这一点很重要
404that neither dopamine nor the mesocortical circuit既非多巴胺,也非中导电路
405cares about any specific goal or pursuit.关心任何特定的目标或追求。
406This is a circuit that uses dopamine这是使用多巴胺的电路
407in order to pursue anything.为了追求任何东西。
408Now, of course, some people have a greater propensity现在,当然,有些人有更大的倾向
409to pursue things like work or goals in athletics在运动中追求工作或目标
410or relationships or a combination of those.或关系或两者的组合。
411Other people, unfortunately, have a greater propensity其他人,很不幸,有更大的倾向
412to pursue things like drugs of abuse.追求毒品之类的东西
413What are drugs of abuse?什么是滥用毒品?
414Drugs of abuse tend to be drugs滥用毒品往往为毒品
415that increase levels of dopamine to the extent使多巴胺含量达到
416that other types of pursuits in life生活中其他类型的追求
417that are adaptive for us,适应我们,
418like work, relationships, school, et cetera,工作、关系、学校等等
419become irrelevant.变得无关紧要
420In fact, the definition of addiction that I use事实上,我使用的毒瘾定义
421and that I believe really matches the neurobiology我相信这很符合神经生物学
422very well is that addiction is a progressive narrowing很好,瘾是逐渐缩小的
423of the things that bring us pleasure.带给我们快乐的东西。
424Healthy functioning of the mesocortical pathway, however,然而,中间道的健康功能,
425allows us to toggle or switch back and forth允许我们来回切换或切换
426between different types of pursuits不同类型的追逐
427of all the sorts that I've mentioned earlier.我之前提到的各类
428So if we can understand how that mesocortical pathway works,所以,如果我们能理解 中枢途径如何工作,
429just a little bit, in particular,只是一点点,特别是,
430when dopamine is released and when it's not released,当多巴胺被释放,当它没有释放,
431what dopamine does when it's released多巴胺释放后会做什么
432to our sense of motivation and drive,我们的动力和动力感,
433and if we can understand a little bit如果我们能理解一点
434about how our recent dopamine history,关于我们最近的多巴胺史,
435that is, whether or not there is dopamine不管有没有多巴胺
436in our system already, dictates whether or not在我们的系统中,已经决定了是否
437we are going to feel motivated in the next five, 10,接下来的5,10,我们会感到有积极性
43815 minutes, hours, days, and weeks.15分钟,小时,天,周。
439That is all very easy to understand.这很容易理解。
440I promise I'll explain it to you in a simple way,我保证我会跟你解释的
441but I want you to get a circuit into your mind.但我希望你有一个回路 进入你的脑海。
442I want you to envision that there are these neurons,我要你想象出这些神经元
443little nerve cells in the VTA and nucleus accumbens.神经细胞在VTA和核糖体。
444Those neurons make dopamine.这些神经元会做多巴胺
445They send their projections that we call axons,他们发出预测 我们叫斧头,
446which are like little wires,犹如小线一样,
447and they can release dopamine into the prefrontal cortex.他们可以释放多巴胺 进入前额皮层。
448And now you already know,现在你已经知道了,
449because you learned it a few minutes ago,因为你几分钟前学会了
450that the prefrontal cortex then can ensure这样前额皮层就可以保证
451that certain behaviors take place某些行为发生
452and other behaviors do not take place,而其他行为并没有发生,
453that shh or quieting that we talked about earlier.我们刚才说的嘘声或安静声
454With that in mind, let's now take a look考虑到这一点,我们现在来看看
455at how dopamine is released,如何释放多巴胺,
456and let's keep two things in mind.让我们记住两件事
457There are peaks in dopamine.多巴胺中存在峰顶.
458That is, dopamine is released into the frontal cortex,即多巴胺释放到前皮层,
459where it has these effects of activating具有激活作用的
460or suppressing action,或镇压行动,
461and we can think of those as peaks in dopamine.我们可以把这些当成多巴胺峰。
462So if I call it a spike, that means an increase所以,如果我称它为 猛增,这意味着增加
463and then a decrease.然后减少。
464If I call it a peak, it's an increase and then a decrease.若我称其为高峰,则谓之增减.
465There can also be troughs in dopamine.多巴胺中也可有槽.
466What do I mean by that?这是什么意思?
467Well, we have peaks in dopamine,我们有多巴胺峰
468and that peak in dopamine can rise up多巴胺的峰值会上升
469and then go back to what we call baseline,然后回到我们所谓的基线,
470or there can be a trough.或者可以有一个槽。
471It can go below baseline.它可能低于基线。
472So the two key things to understand about dopamine所以关于多巴胺的两件事
473is that we have dopamine peaks我们有多巴胺峰
474that are triggered by certain behaviors,由某些行为引发,
475certain compounds, drugs or substances, food, et cetera,某些化合物、药物或物质、食物等,
476and that we have a dopamine baseline.我们有一个多巴胺基线。
477Our dopamine baseline is our reservoir of dopamine.我们的多巴胺基线就是我们的多巴胺库.
478It's how full or empty our dopamine pool is,我们的多巴胺池是满的还是空的
479and that dopamine pool is the pool of dopamine多巴胺池就是多巴胺池
480that we use in order to create those dopamine peaks,我们用来制造多巴胺峰
481and when those peaks come down,当山峰降临的时候,
482sometimes they go back to baseline有时它们会回到基线
483and sometimes they go to lower than baseline,他们有时比基准低。
484which we call the trough.我们称之为槽。
485If any of this seems confusing,如果这看起来有些混乱
486I want you just to imagine a wave pool.我要你想象一个波浪池。
487This is an analogy that was given to me这是给我的类比
488by one of our podcast guests,我们的播客之一,
489他是Kyle Gillette医生 他是肥胖症专家
490and works on a number of things related并致力于一些与
491to endocrine hormone function,内分泌激素功能,
492including testosterone, estrogen, in both men and women.包括雌激素、雌激素和雌激素。
493Want to check out his episodes on hormone health.想看看他的荷尔蒙健康状况
494They're fascinating and actionable.它们是迷人和可操作的。
495He's a tremendous wealth of knowledge,他拥有丰富的知识
496and he has this analogy for how dopamine works他对多巴胺如何起作用有这样的类比
497in our brain and body,在我们的大脑和身体,
498and that analogy is this notion of a wave pool.而这种类比就是这种波池的概念.
499If you've ever seen a wave pool,如果你见过波浪池
500it's basically a concrete pool,它基本上是一个混凝土池,
501and there are waves within it, okay, duh.里面有波浪,好吧,伙计
502Those waves can be of different heights,这些波浪会不同高度
503so they can be little ripples,这样它们就能变成小波纹
504and we can think of those as little mini peaks,我们可以把这些当成迷你山峰
505or they can be big waves.或者它们可能是大浪
506They can be really big crashing waves.它们会是大浪
507If the height of those waves如果这些波的高度
508and the frequency of those waves is very, very large,这些波的频率非常,非常大,
509some of that water,喝点水
510which here I'm using as an analogy to dopamine,我用这个来类比多巴胺
511can slosh out of the wave pool and the baseline drops.可以从波池中消失 基线下降
512However, if those peaks are small enough但是,如果这些山峰足够小
513or they are seldom enough,或者他们很少足够,
514well, then the baseline, that is the water level那么基线就是水位
515in that pool, stays more or less constant.在游泳池里,保持或多或少不变。
516I think this is an excellent analogy我觉得这是个很好的类比
517for how dopamine works in the mesocortical pathway多巴胺如何在中导道上起作用
518as it relates to motivation and pursuit因为它关系到动机和追求
519and all those sorts of things,和所有这些事情,
520because we really need to think about how the peaks因为我们真的需要思考 如何高峰
521and the baseline relate to one another,并有彼此之间的基准,
522and this is very important.这是非常重要的。
523The peaks and the baseline高峰和基线
524are not independent of one another.彼此不独立。
525They relate to one another,他们彼此相通,
526so now you have in your mind a wave pool,所以现在你心里有波浪池
527and just understand that if you get a great big huge wave,只要明白 如果你得到一个巨大的浪潮,
528maybe one of them, it will crash out,也许其中之一, 它会崩溃,
529and some of that water will splash out.有些水会流出来
530The baseline will go down a little bit,基线会下降一点
531but if you get big peak after big peak after big peak,但是,如果你得到大峰 在大峰之后,
532pretty soon you're going to empty that pool,很快你会把游泳池清空
533whereas if you have smaller waves如果你有较小的波
534or less frequent big waves,或频率较低的大浪,
535well, then the baseline will stay relatively constant.那么,基线将保持相对不变。
536So let's think about dopamine peaks and baselines,让我们想想多巴胺峰和基线,
537and let's remember that for every peak, there's a trough.记住,每个峰顶都有一个槽
538What do I mean by that?这是什么意思?
539Well, when you have a wave,好吧,当你有一个波,
540you also have the bottom of the wave.你还有波的底部。
541When you have a mountain,当你有一个山,
542you have the bottom of the mountain.你拥有山底。
543When we think about dopamine peaks and dopamine baselines,当我们想到多巴胺峰和多巴胺基线时
544we have to include that trough我们必须包括这个槽
545because that trough,因为那个槽,
546that is the level of dopamine below baseline,即低于基线的多巴胺水平,
547really dictates whether or not you are going to feel motivated真正决定你是否觉得有动机
548to pursue something or not.到底有没有在追逐什么
549So I'm going to give you a visual in your mind.所以我会给你一个视觉 在你的脑海。
550The visual in your mind is an increase in dopamine你脑中的视觉是多巴胺的增量
551that's triggered by your desire for something,是因为你对某种事物的渴望
552and really could be your desire for anything.也可以成为你对一切的渴望
553If you're hungry and you're thinking about,如果你饿着想着
554oh, I really want a sandwich,哦,我真的想要一个三明治,
555I really want a, let's think,我真的想要一个,让我们想想,
556what sandwich would I want right now?我现在想要什么三明治?
557A really nice roast beef sandwich on sourdough烤牛肉三明治吃得真好吃
558with a slice of Swiss tomatoes, slice of pickle.用瑞士西红柿切片,泡菜切片.
559Here, I'm describing the sandwich that I would want.在这里,我描述的三明治,我想。
560So if you're hungry and you're thinking about that,所以,如果你饿了,你想着这一点,
561dopamine starts rising.多巴胺开始上升
562This is crucially important to understand.这对理解至关重要。
563Dopamine is not just released when we get the reward,多巴胺不仅仅是当我们得到奖励时释放的
564when we get the thing that we're pursuing.当我们得到的东西 我们追求。
565Dopamine is released in anticipation of what we want.多巴胺的释放是为了期待我们想要的东西.
566That increase in dopamine is by no happenstance,多巴胺的增加不是偶然的
567no mistake, relates also to our propensity也和我们的倾向有关
568and desire to move.并渴望移动。
569Remember earlier I told you记得刚才我告诉过你
570there's a separate circuit of dopamine多巴胺有一个单独的环路
571that triggers movement and that when it's depleted触发运动 当它耗尽时
572is causing things like deficits in movement导致行动赤字
573related to Parkinson's or other movement disorders?和帕金森的运动障碍有关?
574Well, that's not pure coincidence.这不是纯粹的巧合
575That's because desire and the need to move那是因为欲望和移动的需要
576in order to pursue and reach goals为了追求和实现目标
577are one in the same process.是同一个过程。
578So if I desire a sandwich所以,如果我想要一个三明治
579or I desire a cup of coffee或者我要一杯咖啡,好吗?
580or I desire some water when I'm thirsty,或者我渴的时候想喝点水
581there's an increase in dopamine多巴胺会增加
582that we could call a little mini peak in dopamine.我们可以叫一个小型的多巴胺峰。
583But then here's the key thing.但关键是...
584Very soon after I realized my desire for something,在我意识到我渴望的东西后不久
585that peak that was caused by the desire由欲望导致的高峰
586comes down and drops below baseline,下临,下临基线,
587below the level of dopamine低于多巴胺水平
588that it was prior to even thinking about the sandwich之前甚至想到三明治的时候
589or the coffee or the glass of water.或咖啡或水杯。
590And it's that drop below baseline和它下降 低于基线
591that triggers my desire to go out and find that sandwich,这让我想出去找三明治
592that coffee, that water, or that blank,那个咖啡,那个水,或者那个空白的,
593insert whatever it is that you happen to desire,插入你们所爱好的,
594action or substance of any kind or person, et cetera.任何种类或个人的行动或实质,等等。
595So that drop below baseline is fundamental因此,低于基线是根本的
596to the whole process.整个过程。
597And that drop below baseline was triggered低于基线的下降是触发的
598by the preceding peak.以上一峰为界。
599So let's say that I desire a sandwich,这么说吧 我想吃三明治
600there's an increase in dopamine,多巴胺有增加,
601then very quickly it comes down below baseline很快它就降到基线以下
602just a little bit.只是一点点。
603Now I'm in pursuit of the sandwich.现在我在追求三明治。
604I'm looking for where I can get that sandwich.我想找个地方买三明治
605I can order it perhaps to be delivered,我可以叫人送来
606I can go out and find it.我可以出去寻找它。
607Now is the stage in which I have to think about现在是我必须思考的舞台
608what are the different stimuli不同的刺激是什么
609that is the things in my environment那是我环境中的东西
610that signal whether or not这表示是否
611I'm likely to get that sandwich or not.我可能会得到 三明治与否。
612And so for instance, if I were to go into my phone比如说,如果我进入我的手机
613and order food on an app并在应用程序上订购食物
614or walk down the street and see the sign for a deli,或走在街上,看见迹象,
615that's a cue that I'm likely to relieve that drop这提示我很可能能缓解下降
616in dopamine and get not just back to baseline,在多巴胺 并不只是回到基线,
617but that I'll get a peak in dopamine.但我会得到一个顶峰 多巴胺。
618And indeed that's what happens.事实就是这样。
619If I find that deli, I go into the deli, they're open,如果我找到那个deli, 我进入deli,他们是开放的,
620they're making the sandwich that I want,他们在做我想要的三明治
621they make my sandwich and great, I get that sandwich.他们做了我的三明治和棒极了,我得到了三明治。
622And that sandwich will have some degree那三明治会有一定程度的
623of inherent reward to it.内在的报酬,
624Some degree of my liking it or not liking it.某种程度上我喜欢它或不喜欢它。
625So let's say I like it.所以说我喜欢
626It's not the best sandwich I've ever had,这不是我吃过最好的三明治,
627but all I'm doing is comparing my desire for that sandwich但我所做的只是比较我对三明治的渴望
628to the sandwich that I actually got and ate.到三明治,我得到了和吃了。
629And chances are it's going to relieve that craving,也有可能缓解这种渴望
630meaning it will take that dopamine意思是,它会采取 多巴胺
631that had fallen below baseline, up, up, back to baseline.已经下降到基线以下, 上,上,上,上,下到基线。
632And if I like the sandwich,如果我喜欢三明治,
633it's going to indeed increase that dopamine,它真的会增加多巴胺,
634again, to another peak.再次,到另一个高峰。
635Now, if I love the sandwich,现在,如果我喜欢三明治,
636like it's the most delicious thing就像它是最美味的东西
637that I've ever tasted in my entire life,我这辈子都尝过
638well then I'll get a big peak in dopamine然后,我会得到一个大峰 多巴胺
639when I consume that reward.当我消耗的奖励。
640However, chances are the sandwich is more or less不过,三明治还是差不多
641as I expect it to be, which is pretty good.正如我所期望的,这是相当不错的。
642I'll eat it and I'm fine.我会吃它,我没事。
643What do I mean by fine?我是指什么是罚款?
644Well, there's a concept called reward prediction error.有个叫奖励预测错误的概念
645Reward prediction error says that the dopamine奖励预测错误说多巴胺
646that it has experienced, that is,它经历了,即,
647that's released from the VTA and nucleus accumbens,从VTA和核糖体释放出来,
648is going to be of a certain value.将具有一定的价值。
649And that value is going to be compared而这个价值将会被比较
650to the desire and expectation对欲望和期望
651of what I thought I was going to get.我想得到的东西。
652So if you take what you actually got所以,如果你拿 你实际得到的
653minus what you expected, that's reward prediction error.减去你的预期, 这是奖励预测错误。
654So if the sandwich is basically what I expected to get,所以,如果三明治基本上是 我期望得到的,
655fine, dopamine comes down basically to a baseline level好,多巴胺基本降到基线水平
656that's pretty standard for me这对我来说很正常
657and is basically the baseline level I had基本上就是基线水平
658before I ever thought about the sandwich at all.在我考虑三明治之前
659If the sandwich completely surprises me如果三明治让我惊讶
660and is completely amazing, just an amazing sandwich,简直是惊人的三明治
661well then the level of dopamine that I experienced我所经历的多巴胺水平
662when I consume that sandwich is going to be even greater当我吞下三明治的时候 就会更大
663and it's going to be that minus what I expected.它会是 减去我的期望。
664So there it's a bigger reward prediction error因此,这是一个更大的奖励 预测错误
665in the direction of higher peak by consuming the sandwich.朝更高的峰值方向走 通过消耗三明治。
666And then of course, there's the other possibility当然,还有另一种可能
667which is the deli's closed or the sandwich they make me这是Deli的关闭 或者他们做的三明治我
668is lousy or it doesn't taste good糟透了,还是不好吃
669or something happened in the consuming of that sandwich或发生了什么 消耗三明治
670that just makes it a bad experience.那只是让它是一个糟糕的经历。
671In which case, if we take that reward experienced这样的话,如果我们拿下那份有经验的奖励
672minus reward predicted from the initial craving,减去从最初的渴望中预言的回报,
673well then it's going to be less than what I expected那会比我想象的要少
674and therefore the baseline drops below因此基线下降至以下
675where it was prior to even desiring the sandwich.在那里,它甚至 想要三明治。
676Okay, so all of this might seem a little bit complicated好吧,所以这一切 可能看起来有点复杂
677but it's all very simple.但这一切都很简单。
678Desire for things increases dopamine对事物的渴望会增加多巴胺
679but then our level of dopamine drops below baseline但随后我们的多巴胺水平 低于基线
680and it's that drop below baseline和它是下降 低于基线
681that triggers the motivation触发动力
682to bring that dopamine level back up让多巴胺含量回升
683{\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}通过去追查这件事
684that you wanted in the first place.你一开始想要的
685Now, of course, as this is happening现在,当然,随着这一切的发生
686you're not conscious of your dopamine levels.你没意识到你的多巴胺含量
687You experienced this as context dependent您从上下文中体验到此
688craving and pursuit.渴望和追求。
689Because remember the prefrontal cortex因为记住前额皮层
690is involved in context setting and craving and pursuit* 参与背景环境、渴望和追求
691because it relates to action and movement因为它与行动和运动有关
692which is one of the general features of the dopamine system.这是多巴胺系统的一般特征之一。
693So you can start to see所以,你可以开始看到
694how this is a beautifully designed system这个系统设计得很好
695and you can also see how it's a perfect system你也可以看到它是如何 一个完美的系统
696for desire and pursuit of anything, not just sandwiches渴望和追求任何东西 不只是三明治
697as I'm giving you in this somewhat trivial因为我给你这个小事
698but every day and therefore applicable example.但每天都有,因此也是适用的例子。
699So just by understanding reward prediction error所以,只是通过理解奖励 预测错误
700and especially by understanding that a craving triggers特别是通过理解渴望触发
701a peak in dopamine that makes you motivated多巴胺的峰值让你兴奋
702but then drops your level of dopamine below baseline然后将你的多巴胺水平降至基线以下
703which makes you even more motivated,这使得你更有动机,
704you are already halfway through the conceptual aspect您已经进入了概念的半途
705of today's podcast because if you can understand that今天播客 因为如果你能理解
706you will understand why, for instance你会明白为什么,例如
707when you initially want something当你一开始想要的东西
708or you think you want something, it puts you into motion或者你认为你想要什么, 它让你进入运动
709but then pretty quickly you're starting to feel the pain但很快你开始感受到痛苦
710of not having that and that is also contributing和它也正在作出贡献。
711to your desire to pursue that thing.为了你追求那东西的愿望
712This is a subtle effect but if you watch for it这是微妙的效果,但如果你看着它
713you'll start to see it or experience it within yourself.你会开始看到它 或体验它自己。
714Your craving for things is not just about craving你对事物的渴望不仅仅是渴望
715for those things per se, it's also a desire对于这些东西本身,这也是一种欲望
716to relieve the pain of not having those things来缓解没有这些东西的痛苦
717and if you can internalize that如果你能内化
718and start to develop an awareness around it并开始培养人们的认识
719you will be in an amazing position to leverage你会处于一个惊人的地位 杠杆
720all sorts of aspects of the dopamine system多巴胺系统的各个方面
721in order to increase your motivation为了增加你的动机
722especially when things get really hard特别是当事情变得很困难的时候
723or when you have the propensity to procrastinate或者当你有拖延的倾向的时候,
724which is something that we'll get into这件事情,我们会得到
725a little bit later in the podcast.稍晚一点在播客。
726I'd like to take a quick break我想尽快休息一下
727and acknowledge one of our sponsors, Athletic Greens.并承认我们的赞助商之一, 运动员格林斯。
728Athletic Greens now called AG1运动绿地现在叫做AG1
729is a vitamin mineral probiotic drink是维他命矿物质的辅生饮料
730that covers all of your foundational nutritional needs.满足你所有的基本营养需求
731I've been taking Athletic Greens since 2012我从2012年开始就服用运动员绿素
732so I'm delighted that they're sponsoring the podcast.所以我很高兴他们赞助播客。
733The reason I started taking Athletic Greens我开始服用运动绿酒的原因
734and the reason I still take Athletic Greens once和原因 我仍然采取运动员绿党一次
735or usually twice a day is that it gets to be或通常一天两次是,它会是
736the probiotics that I need for gut health.肠道健康需要的抗生素
737Our gut is very important, it's populated by gut microbiota我们的肠道很重要,它有肠道微生物
738that communicate with the brain, the immune system与大脑,免疫系统沟通
739and basically all the biological systems of our body基本上我们身体的所有生物系统
740to strongly impact our immediate and long-term health影响我们当前和长期的健康
741and those probiotics in Athletic Greens are optimal和那些抗生素 在运动员绿地是最好的
742and vital for microbiotic health.对微生物健康至关重要
743此外,Athletic Greens还包含一个数字
744of adaptogens, vitamins and minerals that make sure能够确保
745that all of my foundational nutritional needs are met我的营养需求全部得到满足
746and it tastes great.味道不错
747If you'd like to try Athletic Greens狦稱刚刚
748你可以去田径绿地. com slash Huberman.
749and they'll give you five free travel packs他们会给你5个免费旅行包
750that make it really easy to mix up Athletic Greens那样就很容易把运动员绿地混在一起
751while you're on the road, in the car, on the plane, et cetera当你在路上,在车里,在飞机上,等等
752and they'll give you a year supply of vitamin D3K2.他们会给你一年的维他命D3K2
753再说一遍,那是运动绿地.comslash Huberman
754to get the five free travel packs拿到5个免费旅行包
755and the year supply of vitamin D3K2.以及维生素D3K2的年份供应量。
756Now I'd like to talk about the dynamics of dopamine release现在我想谈谈多巴胺释放的动态
757with a little bit more detail更详细一点
758and this is something I've never covered这是我从来没有覆盖过的东西
759on any social media post or on any podcast,在任何社交媒体的帖子 或任何播客,
760either this one or as a guest on other podcasts要么是这个,要么是其他播客的客人
761because on the face of it, it might seem a little too detailed因为从表面上看 可能有点太详细了
762like why is he telling me all this?像为什么他告诉我这一切?
763Isn't it just enough to know that there are peaks and troughs光知道有山峰和山沟还不够
764and baselines in dopamine?多巴胺的基线?
765Well, it turns out that if you can understand事实证明如果你能理解
766what that peak and trough are really about,那顶峰和槽到底是怎么回事,
767in other words, what's really happening换句话说,到底发生了什么
768when we zoom in on that peak and trough,当我们放大 在峰顶和槽,
769you'll be in an amazing position to overcome procrastination你会处于一个惊人的地位 克服拖延
770and essentially pursue any goals in an ongoing basis.并且基本上持续不断地追求任何目标。
771So I'm very excited to share this information with you所以,我很兴奋 与你分享这个信息
772because I do think that it has tremendous actionable power.因为我认为它有巨大的 行动能力。
773What I'm about to describe relates to a number我要描述的是一个数字
774of different findings that have been made调查结果
775mostly over the last five to 10 years,过去五到十年里
776although to be quite direct,虽然很直接,
777mostly within the last five years.主要是在过去五年内
778And it has to do with the fact that the peak and trough和峰顶和沟壑有关
779and baseline that I talked about a moment ago以及我刚才提到的基线
780that are associated with craving,与渴望有关,
781they look like a peak followed by a trough,他们看起来像一个高峰 后面有一个槽,
782followed by a return to baseline and maybe another peak之后返回基线,也许达到另一高峰
783if you get the reward or a drop below baseline如果你得到奖励或低于基线
784if you don't or you don't like what you got.如果你不喜欢或不喜欢你得到的东西。
785But if we were to zoom in on that peak and the reward,但是如果我们放大 在那高峰和奖励,
786in other words, to really zoom in on the whole process换句话说,要真正放大整个过程
787and start thinking about the circuitry,开始思考电路,
788也就是VTA和Accumbens核中的神经元
789and how it relates to the frontal cortex以及它与前皮层的关系
790in a bit more detail,更详细一点
791what we discover is nothing short of amazing.我们发现的只是惊人的。
792What we discover is that whenever we're pursuing something,我们发现,每当我们 追求的东西,
793we are always looking for cues as to whether or not我们总是在寻找线索 关于是否
794we are on the right path to achieve that thing.我们正走着正确的道路来实现这一目标。
795And we are also setting a mindset我们还在设定一种心态
796or a context within our brains或者我们大脑里的背景
797as to whether or not we are confident or pessimistic至于我们是否有信心或悲观
798as to whether or not we're going to achieve that thing.至于我们是否要实现这个目标
799Now, this is vitally important for anyone out there现在,这对任何人来说都很重要
800who finds it hard to get motivated and stay motivated.谁觉得很难得到 动机和保持动机。
801It's also vitally important for anyone这对任何人都很重要
802who's psychologically minded in any way.谁的心理 头脑以任何方式。
803You don't have to be a psychologist,你不必当心理学家
804but psychologically minded in any way and wonders,但从心理上来说, 无论是怎样,还是怎样的,
805why is it that some people are just so motivated为什么有人这么冲动?
806and other people have such trouble with motivation?其他人的动机有这样的问题吗?
807Why is it that some people require perfect conditions为什么有些人需要完美的条件
808in order to achieve things?为了达到目的?
809And other people just seem to manage而其他人似乎只是 管理
810to pursue things no matter what.追寻一切
811It also relates to the fact that some of us也涉及到我们中的一些人
812are very good at achieving our goals in one context在一个背景下非常善于实现我们的目标
813and not so much in another.而不是在另一个。
814So here's what you need to understand.这就是你需要明白的
815I'll stay with the example of the roast beef sandwich我会坚持烤牛肉三明治的榜样
816just because we already have that in mind,只是因为我们已经想到这一点,
817but you can replace roast beef sandwich但你可以代替烤牛肉三明治
818with essentially any goal.基本上有目标
819The cue that we're going to likely get what we want.我们可能会得到我们想要的
820So for instance, the sign that there's a deli on the corner比如说,角上有个熟食店
821or that I open my phone and that there's an app或者我打开我的电话 和有一个应用程序
822that represents a restaurant that sells代表着一家卖东西的餐馆
823the particular sandwich that I like.我喜欢的三明治
824That cue, as I mentioned before, increases dopamine.正如我前面提到的,这个提示增加了多巴胺。
825You see that and like, oh, okay.你看见了吗?
826And subconsciously, there's already a signal潜意识中,已经有一个信号
827that's initiated by that dopamine由多巴胺发起
828that I'm on the right path.我走对路了
829Then as I mentioned, dopamine drops below baseline.然后,正如我所提到的,多巴胺会下降 低于基线。
830That's further contributing to my desire这更有助于我的愿望
831to go pursue that sandwich,去追求那个三明治,
832either with my thumbs on my phone through the app或者用我的拇指在我的手机 通过应用程序
833or with my feet and walking to the deli,或用我的脚走到迪利,
834standing in line and so forth.排队等等
835Then as I mentioned before, there is a peak in dopamine,我之前说过 多巴胺有顶峰
836varying height, depending on how satisfying不同高度,取决于满足程度
837I find the reward to be,我发现奖励是,
838when I actually get that sandwich, get that goal.当我得到那个三明治时, 得到那个目标。
839Now keep in mind, there is some time delay between the cue,记住 提示之间有些时间延迟
840the app, the deli, et cetera, and when I get my sandwich.应用, 熟食等, 当我得到我的三明治。
841That gap is going to be different for different things.对于不同的事情来说,这种差距将有所不同。
842So in pursuing a four-year degree,因此,在追求四年学位时,
843it's going to be four years if the diploma is your goal.如果文凭是你的目标,那就要四年了
844If it's an exam you're studying for,如果这是你学习的考试
845it might be a week long.可能要一个星期
846And there will be many other signals还有许多其他的信号
847in between that initial cue that, hey,中间的初始提示,嘿,
848the reward likely lies down this path, in this textbook,奖赏可能就在这条路上, 在教科书中,
849in this dating app or at that deli.在这个约会的应用 或者在那个deli。
850There are many other cues.还有其他许多线索
851Those cues come in subconsciously这些线索潜入意识
852and involve everything from how long the line is并涉及一切 从线有多长
853{\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}你是否看到这些类型
854of people on a dating app that you'd like to see,在一个约会应用程序上的人 你希望看到,
855whether or not they're responding to you,无论他们是否回应你,
856whether or not someone's texting you back or not.不管有没有人给你发短信
857All of those cues are integrated所有这些提示都是整合的
858and adjusting your baseline level of dopamine all the time并始终调整多巴胺的基准水平
859as you go to pursue that goal.当你去追求这个目标。
860So what the dopamine system does is it doesn't just compare所以多巴胺系统所做的 不仅仅是比较
861the height of the peak at the beginning, right?高峰的高度在开始,对不对?
862I desire that to the reward that you got.我希望得到你的奖励
863We talked about reward prediction error.我们谈论了奖励预测错误。
864That's the kind of first grade version这是一年级的版本
865of reward prediction error.奖励的预测错误。
866It's also taking into account all the things也考虑到一切
867that happen in between.发生在两者之间
868And all of that is serving as a cue所有这一切都是作为提示
869for the eventual reward.以报应。
870And all of that is funneling这一切都是漏斗
871into what we call reward prediction error.进入我们所称的悬赏预测错误。
872In other words, the dopamine system is very good换句话说,多巴胺系统非常好
873at subconsciously parsing what are the things潜意识地分析事物
874that happen between wanting and getting.这发生在渴望和获得之间。
875And that's part of the learning that dopamine achieves.这就是多巴胺实现的学习的一部分。
876And indeed, there are specialized circuits确实,有专门的电路
877from the VTA and nucleus accumbens从 VTA 和 核蓄本
878that are involved in just the learning参与学习
879of how we achieve or don't achieve specific types我们如何实现或不实现特定类型
880of rewards that we desire.我们想要的回报。
881So this is called reward contingent learning这就是所谓的奖励 或有学习
882because it's learning the contingencies因为它正在学习 突发事件
883of what led up to a reward以报答真主,
884or what didn't lead up to a reward.或没有导致奖励。
885At the same time and in parallel,同时,同时,
886there's an ongoing release of dopamine in the background.正在释放多巴胺 在背景。
887And that ongoing release of dopamine并且不断释放多巴胺
888that has nothing to do with learning和学习无关
889is really just sort of a propeller是一种螺旋桨
890that's driving us in the direction我们正朝着这个方向前进
891of whatever it is that we're trying to pursue.无论我们想追求什么
892So I realize for some of you,所以我意识到,对于你们中的一些人,
893this might seem like unnecessary这似乎没有必要
894or perhaps even an overwhelming amount of detail,或多或少的细节,
895but it's actually quite simple.但其实很简单
896Your brain is trying to figure out你的大脑正在想办法
897what happened prior to getting or not getting a reward.在得到奖赏之前发生的事
898And it's comparing what you wanted这是比较你想要的
899compared to what you got.和你拥有的相比
900At the same time, the dopamine system同时 多巴胺系统
901initiates a motivation signal启动动机信号
902that takes you through that entire round of pursuit.让你渡过那一轮的追逐
903And those three things, there's the stimulus,还有这三件事 那就是刺激
904the desire, the I want that.欲望,我想要的。
905That's the first thing that leads to that peak.这是第一件事 导致那个高峰。
906The peak drops a little bit below baseline峰值稍低于基线
907and it triggers motivation.并触发动力。
908The motivation is the second thing.动机是第二件事。
909The motivation is dopamine release also,动机是多巴胺的释放,
910but from a separate set of neurons within this circuit,但从这个电路内 的一组神经元中
911driving you forward.推动你前进。
912And the entire time that it's driving you forward,整个时间 它正在推动你前进,
913it's paying attention to what's there along the way.它在注意沿途的东西
914Even if you don't realize it consciously.即便不觉悟.
915And then there's the reward itself然后是奖励本身
916or the lack of reward itself.或缺乏报酬本身。
917So those three components, the learning contingency,所以这三个组成部分, 学习应急,
918which has to do with the stimulus and the reward与刺激和奖励有关
919and everything that happens in between和一切发生在之间
920and the propeller nature of dopamine as I'm referring to it,还有我所说的多巴胺的螺旋桨性质
921those all combine into a total learning他们都结合到全面学习中
922so that after you get the sandwich让你拿到三明治后
923or after you finish the exam or after you go out on a date或完成考试或约会之后
924or after you do anything that you desire to do,或做任何你想做的事后,
925that system that originates in the VTA来源于VTA的系统
926and nucleus accumbens and goes up to your cortex,和核蓄积物 升到你的皮层,
927it learned.它学会了。
928It learned many things.它学到了很多东西。
929It learned the contingency between stimulus学会了刺激之间的应急性
930and desire or motivation和愿望或动机
931and whether or not you succeeded or not.无论你是否成功
932It's basically a scoreboard for how you did这基本上是一个记分牌 你是如何做到的
933given what just happened.鉴于刚刚发生的事
934So actually it's all very simple.所以实际上一切都很简单。
935In fact, if you can understand事实上,如果你能理解
936even just half of what I just said,甚至只是我刚刚说的一半,
937you are now in a far better position你现在的处境好多了
938to understand everything from addiction to motivation从瘾君子到动机
939to procrastination.来拖延时间
940And it will make sense of all the tools它会让所有的工具都有意义
941that I'm going to talk about next,接下来我要谈谈
942which will allow you to overcome procrastination points,以便你们克服延迟,
943to overcome deficits and motivation克服赤字和动机
944and indeed to reset your motivation in an ongoing way以不断的方式重现你的动机
945so that you can reach your goals.这样你就能达到你的目标。
946Okay, so let's take everything that I just told you好吧,那就拿上我刚刚告诉你的一切
947and set it aside.并把它放在一边。
948It's still important, but let's just set it aside.这仍然很重要,但让我们把它搁置一边。
949You don't have to think about any of those details你不必考虑这些细节
950or names or anything.或名字或任何东西。
951Let's just think about addiction让我们想想瘾
952because in biology and in psychology, frankly,因为在生物学和心理学,坦率地说,
953it really often pays to think about the extremes first总是先考虑极端
954and then work our way towards more typical circumstances.然后再努力寻找更典型的环境
955And with that said,这么说
956addiction unfortunately is very common nowadays.不幸的是,瘾症现在很普遍。
957I just heard a statistic in fact,我刚刚听到一个统计 事实上,
958that there is an 80% increase in alcohol use disorder酒精使用障碍增加80%
959among women in the last 30 years.过去30年中妇女的人数。
960I talked a little bit about this我聊了一下这个
961in the episode that I did about alcohol and health.我写了一段关于酒精和健康的故事
962Again, I want to be very clear.再说一遍,我想说清楚
963I'm not somebody that is completely against alcohol我不是完全反对喝酒的人
964for adults, provided they're not alcoholics.对于成年人, 如果他们不是酒鬼。
965Turns out two drinks a week, probably fine health-wise.每周喝两杯 可能身体健康
966Zero would be better.零会更好。
967If we're honest, zero is better than any alcohol,如果我们是诚实的,0比任何酒精更好,
968but two drinks a week is probably fine.但每周喝两杯可能没问题
969Past two drinks, you start running into problems.过去两杯,你开始遇到麻烦。
970And yet many, many people out there, male and female alike,然而,很多,很多人 在那里,男女都一样,
971suffer from alcohol use disorder, also called alcoholism.酗酒症,也叫酗酒症
972The same is also true for things like methamphetamine甲基苯丙胺也一样
973or cocaine or other types of substance addictions.或可卡因或其他类药物成瘾。
974And the same is also true for a lot of behavioral很多行为上也是如此
975or what are sometimes called process addictions,或有时被称为过程成瘾,
976things like sex addiction or video game addiction性瘾或电子游戏成瘾
977or any type of behavior that frankly或任何种类的行为 坦白地说
978is leveraging the dopamine system,利用多巴胺系统,
979but that engages this progressive narrowing但是,这涉及到 这个渐进的缩小
980of the things that bring someone pleasure,以给人以喜悦的事物发誓,
981such that nothing else is really salient.因此,没有什么是真正突出的。
982Nothing else is really pulling them in,没有别的东西真的拉他们进来,
983in the way that their video games or sex or pornography他们的电子游戏 性或色情
984or alcohol, pick your substance or, you know,或酒精,选择你的物质 或者,你知道,
985behavior that you see out there or hopefully not,你在那里看到或希望没有的行为,
986but that you might suffer from an addiction too.但你也会染上毒瘾
987So what's happening in addiction?瘾君子呢?
988Well, addiction involves dopamine among other things,瘾症包括多巴胺
989often the opioid system, et cetera.常常是类阿片系统,等等。
990But if we were to think about what's the stimulus但如果我们想到刺激是什么
991in an addiction and what's the peak in dopamine,在瘾和什么是多巴胺峰,
992and then what happens after that peak,然后在高峰之后发生了什么
993it all becomes very clear as to why addiction happens它变得非常清楚 为什么成瘾发生
994and why it's so pernicious.和为什么它是如此有害。
995So for instance, let's take cocaine.比如说,让我们吸可卡因
996Cocaine causes dramatic increases in dopamine very, very fast.可卡因导致多巴胺剧增 非常非常快
997So if somebody craves cocaine, what are they craving?所以,如果有人渴望可卡因, 他们渴望什么?
998They're craving that dopamine peak.他们渴望多巴胺峰
999They're craving the increased level of alertness.他们渴望提高警惕
1000They're craving a number of things associated他们渴望一些相关的东西
1001with the feeling of being under the influence of the drug.与感觉 在药物的影响。
1002But the stimulus for it simply becomes that line of cocaine但刺激它只是 变成可卡因线
1003or in the case of crack,在裂缝的情况下,
1004that crack rock that they're going to smoke,他们将要抽的裂缝岩石,
1005and God forbid they're mainlining it.上帝保佑他们能控制它
1006You know, they're shooting into a vein.你知道,他们正射入血管。
1007What happens is they snort, smoke or inject cocaine他们吸食、抽烟或注射可卡因
1008and dopamine levels almost immediately go up, up, up, up,多巴胺含量几乎立即上升、上升、上升
1009to a very high peak, okay?到一个非常高的峰顶,好吗?
1010So the time gap between the stimulus and the dopamine所以刺激和多巴胺之间的时间差距
1011is very, very short.非常,非常短暂。
1012So short in fact, that there's really no other contingencies这么短的时间,事实上, 没有其他的意外
1013in between that the mesocortical system has to learn.在中间 中度系统必须学习。
1014In fact, what does the system quote unquote learn?事实上,这个系统引用了什么?
1015It learns cocaine equals massive amounts of dopamine它学会的可卡因相当于大量的多巴胺
1016equals feeling euphoric and energetic, et cetera.等于感觉兴奋和精力充沛,等等。
1017And in doing that, it reinforces the whole circuit在这样做时,它强化了整个电路
1018so that that short, we can even say这么短,我们甚至可以说
1019hyper short contingency is really what the system wants.超短的意外事故是系统真正想要的
1020So much so that longer contingencies of say,如此之多,所以更长的意外,
1021putting in the hard work of, you know,努力工作,你知道,
1022generating a fitness program创建健身方案
1023or a professional program for yourself或专业计划
1024or a education program,或教育方案,
1025which takes not just many days, but many weeks and years.这不仅需要很多天,而且需要很多周年。
1026Well, none of that is going to lead to peaks in dopamine好吧,这些都不会导致多巴胺峰
1027that are as high as the peak in dopamine与多巴胺峰一样高
1028associated with cocaine.与可卡因有关。
1029So that tells us something critical.这告诉我们一些关键的事情。
1030It is both the duration between desire and effect.它既是欲望与效果之间的持续时间。
1031And when I say effect, I mean the rewarding properties当我说效果,我的意思是奖励财产
1032of dopamine that are experienced, that's important.有经验的多巴胺, 这很重要。
1033So very short gaps teach the system所以,非常短的空白 教系统
1034to expect and want short gaps.期望和想要短小的差距。
1035Makes it very hard to pursue things that take longer.很难追查需要更长时间的东西
1036So when we say it's the short,所以,当我们说这是短,
1037or in this case, hyper short distance或在这种情况下,超短距离
1038or time between the stimulus and the dopamine,或刺激与多巴胺之间的时间,
1039what we're really talking about,我们真的在谈论什么,
1040if we were to plot this out on a board如果我们在一块板子上设计这个
1041or on a piece of paper,在一张纸上,
1042is the steepness of the rise of that peak.是那个高峰的陡峭上升。
1043It's very, very steep.它非常非常陡峭。
1044The peak in dopamine is coming up very fast多巴胺的峰值迅速升起
1045after the desire.欲灭后.
1046And in addition to that, and this is very important,除此之外 这很重要
1047the higher the peak in dopamine多巴胺的峰值越高
1048and the faster the rise to that peak,并且越快升到峰顶,
1049the further below baseline the dopamine drops多巴胺的下降情况
1050after the drug wears off, okay?药耗尽后,好吗?
1051So in the case of cocaine,因此,对于可卡因,
1052it's a very fast and very large rise in dopamine多巴胺的升速非常快 也非常大
1053followed by a steep drop然后是倾盆大雨
1054and very deep trough in dopamine below baseline.和非常深的多巴胺 低于基线。
1055You say, okay, so there's pleasure,你说,好吧,所以有乐趣,
1056then there's lack of pleasure.那就没有乐趣了
1057Ah, but it's worse than that啊,但比这更糟
1058because it's not just lack of pleasure.因为这不仅仅是缺乏乐趣。
1059If you recall what we talked about a little bit earlier,如果你记得我们刚才说过的话
1060that drop below baseline低于基线的
1061triggers the desire and the pursuit for what?引发欲望和追求什么?
1062For more.为了更多。
1063And so this sets in motion a vicious loop所以这引发了一个恶性循环
1064where people start pursuing peaks in dopamine人们开始追求多巴胺的峰值
1065that can come very fast without much effort.这会很快的,没有太多的努力。
1066And that's one of the ways这是其中之一
1067in which addiction starts to take hold.毒瘾开始流行
1068There's a simple way to think about this有个简单的办法来考虑这个
1069and to remember if you want to avoid this whole thing.并记住 如果你想避免这一切。
1070I mean, the first one is obvious.我的意思是,第一个是明显的。
1071Don't do cocaine, don't try it, don't use it.不要吸可卡因,不要尝试,不要使用它。
1072Certainly don't get addicted to it.当然不会上瘾的
1073Those are all sort of one and the same, frankly.坦率地说,这些都是一样的。
1074I don't know many people that,我不认识很多人
1075despite opinion to the contrary,尽管有相反的意见,
1076that use cocaine recreationally以娱乐方式使用可卡因
1077that don't at some point run into either a financial,在某个时候不会遇到任何财务问题,
1078psychological, physical, or some other problem.心理、身体或其他问题
1079The other thing that's absolutely critical to keep in mind,还有一件事是绝对关键的 记住,
1080and this was discussed in my colleague,我的同事讨论了这个问题,
1081Dr. Anna Lemke's book,安娜·莱姆克博士的书
1082Dopamine Nation and on this podcast.多巴胺国家 和这个播客。
1083Excellent book, by the way, I highly recommend it.对了,我非常推荐这本书
1084If you haven't read it already,如果你还没有读过
1085it's a fascinating exploration into dopamine这是对多巴胺的迷人探索
1086as it relates to addiction,因为它与成瘾有关,
1087not just drug addiction, but other types of addiction.不只是吸毒,还有其他类型的吸毒
1088Again, the name of that book is Dopamine Nation.那本书的名字是多巴明民族
1089We'll provide a link to it in the show note captions.我们会在节目字幕中提供链接
1090The other thing that happens还有一件事
1091after those big, fast increases in dopamine在多巴胺的快速增长之后
1092caused by things like cocaine is afterwards,可卡因是后来造成的,
1093when it quickly drops below baseline,当它迅速下降 低于基线,
1094it takes a much longer time to get back回来需要更长的时间
1095to the original baseline than it did prior to using the drug.与使用该药物之前相比,改为原基准。
1096And worse still is that the peaks in dopamine更糟的是多巴胺的峰顶
1097that are created from more consumption of cocaine可卡因消费增加所造成的影响
1098leads to progressively lower peaks导致峰值逐渐降低
1099and deeper troughs below baseline.和低于基线的更深槽。
1100So the whole system is shifting away from pleasure所以整个系统都从快乐中消失了
1101and more to pain and the desire for pursuit of the drug.更多的是痛苦和追求毒品的欲望
1102This is a terrible situation情况很糟
1103and it's a terrible situation情况很糟
1104that's not just unique to cocaine.这不仅仅是可卡因独有的
1105In fact, if we were to look at the averages,事实上,如果我们看看平均值,
1106and again, these are averages而且,这些是平均的
1107of the height of the peaks in dopamine多巴胺峰的高度
1108that are created by different substances由不同物质产生
1109and the rates at which those peaks take place,以及那些高峰的发生速度,
1110because remember the time to peak因为记得高峰的时候
1111is just as important as how high that peak goes.和高峰有多高一样重要
1112We see some pretty interesting numbers.我们看到一些有趣的数字。
1113So for instance, and again,比如说 再说一遍
1114these are averages based on neuroimaging这些是神经成像的平均值
1115combined with what are called PET scans,结合所谓的PET扫描,
1116positron emission tomography,原物排放成像仪,
1117combined with blood draws and a number of other data与血画和若干其他数据相结合
1118from both animal and human studies.从动物和人类的研究。
1119You find is that at baseline,你发现在基线,
1120just kind of on a background of no drug taking of any kind,只是那种背景 没有服用任何药物,
1121the neurons in the ventricle mental nucleus accumbens area心胸神经核的神经元
1122are firing at a rate of about three to four per second,发射速度约为每秒三至四,
1123releasing dopamine.释放多巴胺
1124So that's your baseline of dopamine release.这就是你释放多巴胺的基准
1125Your forebrain is always seeing a little bit of dopamine你的前脑总是有一点多巴胺
1126from that system.从系统。
1127If you were then to anticipate food如果你早料到会吃东西
1128and you're relatively hungry, that would double, okay?你相对饿了,那会加倍,好吗?
1129So this probably happened when you decide to eat lunch today所以今天你决定吃午饭的时候 可能会发生这种事
1130if you were hungry prior to eating lunch.如果你在吃午饭前饿了
1131It doubles in the anticipation of the food食物的预期会加倍
1132and then depending on how much you enjoyed that food,然后取决于你有多享受这些食物
1133it might triple or quadruple,它可能三倍或三倍,
1134it might be lower than it was during the anticipation可能比预期的要低
1135as we talked about before.就像我们之前说过的
1136So there's an approximate doubling under conditions因此,在条件下,有大约一倍
1137of desiring and consuming food.渴望和消费食物。
1138Let's take nicotine as the next example.以尼古丁为下例.
1139For people that use nicotine,对于使用尼古丁的人,
1140either smoking, vaping, snuffing or dipping,要么抽烟 洗手 吸血 要么滴水
1141all routes of nicotine administration尼古丁管理的所有路线
1142that I covered in our episode about nicotine,我报导了尼古丁的事
1143there's about a 150% increase大约增加了150%
1144in the rate of dopamine neuron firing.多巴胺神经元的发火率。
1145Cocaine is going to increase the rate of dopamine output可卡因会提高多巴胺产量
1146into the prefrontal cortex by about 1,000%, okay?进入前额皮层约1000%,好吗?
1147So what you're really talking about here所以,你真正在说什么在这里
1148is a 10-fold increase in the amount of dopamine多巴胺含量增加10倍
1149that's released into the prefrontal cortex释放到前额皮层
1150as measured by the rates of firing以射击率衡量的
1151of these dopamine neurons.这些多巴胺神经元。
1152Methamphetamine is going to be anywhere from 1,000%,甲基安非他明将在1000 %左右的地方出现,
1153anywhere up to 10,000%.超过一万分之一的地方
1154It really varies depending on the potency of the drug视药物的威力而异
1155and a few other factors.还有其他几个因素。
1156And here's where perhaps it gets a little more interesting.这里也许更有趣一些。
1157Some of you are probably wondering about caffeine你们中有些人可能会在想咖啡因
1158or about sex or about video games.性爱或电子游戏
1159Now, there are the numbers vary tremendously.现在,数字差异很大。
1160And it's really important to understand理解这一点很重要
1161that across the board, not just for caffeine, sex,不只是咖啡因 性爱
1162video games, but also for nicotine, alcohol,还有尼古丁 酒精
1163and other substances and what we call motivated behaviors,以及其他物质,以及我们称之为动机的行为,
1164some of which are part of a healthy life有些是健康生活的一部分
1165like eating and reproduction,喜欢吃和繁殖,
1166provided it's age-appropriate, context-appropriate,如果它适合年龄,适合背景,
1167species-appropriate, consensual,适合物种的、自愿的、
1168well, then we consider it adaptive.好吧,那么我们认为它是适应性的。
1169If it's not, well, then consider it maladaptive.如果不是,那么就认为它不适应。
1170Some people will sit down to play a video game.有些人会坐下来玩电子游戏。
1171They really like video games.他们很喜欢电子游戏
1172And as they're sitting down,当他们坐下时,
1173they will experience a five-fold increase他们将会增加五倍
1174in the rate of dopamine output from their nucleus accumbens.以多巴胺的分泌率计算
1175For other people, it's going to be a 10-fold increase.对于其他人来说,将增加10倍.
1176For other people like me,对于像我这样的人
1177who don't like video games very much,谁不喜欢电子游戏,
1178I don't have anything against them.我对他们没什么意见
1179I don't dislike them, but it doesn't do much for me.我不讨厌他们,但对我没什么用
1180It might not cause any increase whatsoever.这可能不会造成任何增加。
1181It might even cause a decrease in dopamine.它甚至可能导致多巴胺的减少.
1182So there's a lot of individual variability.因此,个体的可变性很多.
1183For sex, it turns out to be a range.对于性而言,结果是一个范围.
1184So the typical range that's cited in the literature所以文献中引用的典型范围
1185is anywhere from a four to five-fold increase从四倍增加到五倍
1186in the rate of dopamine neuron firing.多巴胺神经元的发火率。
1187However, there are certain individuals不过,有些个人
1188for which that number is doubled.这个数字翻了一番。
1189Caffeine is a little bit of a special circumstance咖啡因有点特殊
1190because caffeine has the property因为咖啡因有财产
1191of not just causing the release of dopamine,不只是导致多巴胺的释放,
1192but increasing the amount of dopamine receptors over time.但随着时间推移,多巴胺受体的数量会增加.
1193And there aren't a lot of excellent measurements也没什么好测量的
1194of the amount of dopamine released多巴胺释放量
1195as a function of caffeine intake咖啡因摄入量的作用
1196in different populations of humans.在不同的人群中。
1197It's mostly animal studies.主要是动物研究.
1198But what we think based on the Gestalt,但是我们根据Gestalt的想法
1199based on the overall picture of the literature,根据文献的总体情况,
1200is that it's an approximate doubling大约是两倍
1201of the dopamine signaling that's coming out发出多巴胺信号
1202of the VTA nucleus accumbens to prefrontal cortexVTA 核糖体到前额皮层
1203when we anticipate and when we drink our coffee.当我们预料到, 当我们喝我们的咖啡。
1204Again, I really want to be clear that再说一遍,我真的想说清楚
1205for all of these things, these are relative levels对于所有这些事情, 这些是相对水平
1206and they are distribution.它们是分发的。
1207So if we were to plot them out on paper,所以如果我们在纸面上设计他们
1208you would see that these are not bar graphs.你可以看到这些不是条形图。
1209These are overlapping curves to some extent.这些曲线在某种程度上是重叠的。
1210So some people are going to achieve more dopamine release所以有些人会得到更多的多巴胺释放
1211or less dopamine release from one behavior or substance.一种行为或物质释放多巴胺
1212However, it's very clear that cocaine, methamphetamine,然而,很明显,可卡因,甲基苯丙胺,
1213even heroin for that matter,即使是海洛因也一样
1214are way out on the right-hand side of the curve,是在曲线的右边,
1215causing enormous increases in dopamine very quickly.导致多巴胺的急剧增加
1216And the other things that we described have,而我们描述的其他事情,
1217again, a distribution that is more leftward shifted同样,一个更左转的分布
1218on this imaginary plot that I'm creating.我想象中的剧情
1219It's a lot of individual variability.个体多变.
1220However, it's fascinating that dopamine不过,多巴胺很迷人
1221is the single molecule that's causing the craving是导致渴望的单分子
1222and pursuit and experience追求和经验
1223of all of these substances and behaviors.所有这些物质和行为。
1224And the learning of all of that craving pursuit和学习所有渴望的追求
1225and actual experience is what predicts而实际经验是预测
1226whether or not we will re-engage, reuse that substance我们是否将重新投入,再利用该物质
1227or not re-engage in a behavior or not或不重新参与某行为
1228and how frequently we will do that.我们经常这样做。
1229So that's addiction.所以这是上瘾。
1230But if you understand how the height但如果你明白这高度
1231of those peaks in dopamine这些多巴胺峰中
1232and the rate to reach those peaks和达到这些高峰的速度
1233and the troughs that result和产生的槽
1234and how long the troughs take to get back to baseline,和多久的槽 回到基线,
1235if you understand or a little or all of that,如果你理解,或一点点或所有,
1236you're really in a terrific position你真的很厉害
1237to understand how to leverage the dopamine system了解如何利用多巴胺系统
1238for the pursuit of healthy goals and behaviors.追求健康的目标和行为。
1239I should mention one thing about recovery from addiction,我该提一件事 关于戒毒,
1240which is that the reset of all that dopamine circuitry就是所有多巴胺电路的重置
1241from unhealthy to healthy often involves,从不健康到健康往往涉及:
1242depending on the addiction, 30 days of complete abstinence.根据成瘾程度 30天的禁欲
1243That 30 days of complete abstinence30天的彻底禁欲
1244inevitably involves a lot of pain and discomfort难免会很痛苦很不舒服
1245and craving, anxiety, insomnia, et cetera,渴望,焦虑,失眠等,
1246that relates to the big trough in dopamine与多巴胺中的大槽有关
1247that inevitably occurs.这不可避免地会发生。
1248Now, of course, there are some addictions现在,当然,有些瘾
1249such as severe alcohol addiction例如严重酗酒
1250and in some cases, opiate addiction在某些情况下,阿片剂成瘾
1251that immediate and sustained abstinence立即持续禁欲
1252cannot be used as the tool.无法用作工具。
1253Somebody really needs to work with an addiction specialist某人真的需要和毒瘾专家合作
1254and sometimes there needs to be a tapering off有时需要松绑
1255of the substance.内容。
1256For other addictions, it can be cold turkey.对于其他成瘾者,可以是冷火鸡.
1257And then of course, there are other addictions,当然还有别的瘾
1258particular food and sex,特别的食物和性,
1259but sometimes even things like video games但有时甚至像电子游戏
1260for which the desired outcome预期成果
1261is not necessarily to eliminate the behavior completely,不一定完全消除行为
1262but to set some constraints around the behavior但要在行为上设置一些约束
1263so that it's not occurring to the exclusion因此,它不会发生 在排除
1264of other pleasureful things in life生活中其他快乐的东西
1265and adaptive things in life.和适应性的东西在生活中。
1266And for that, there is the requirement为此,需要
1267for what are called the binding behaviors.对于所谓的约束行为。
1268We'll get back to binding behaviors later,我们待会再讨论约束行为
1269but binding behaviors are behaviors但约束行为是行为
1270in which people bind their behavior在其中人们约束他们的行为
1271around a particular substance use围绕特定物质用途
1272or around a particular behavioral addiction,或围绕特定的行为成瘾,
1273like sex, video games, et cetera,像性,电子游戏等等,
1274in space and or time.在空间和时间。
1275In space, meaning they might only engage在太空中,意味着他们可能只参与
1276in those particular behaviors in certain places在某些地方的特定行为
1277and certain times when it's context appropriate.和某些时间 当它适合的背景。
1278And there are numerous examples of binding behaviors有很多约束行为的例子
1279in space and time.在空间和时间。
1280It all has to do with clamping or directing这都和夹或指挥有关
1281when the engagement with the dopamine releasing behavior当与多巴胺释放行为发生接触时
1282is going to occur.将会发生。
1283So what's happening when people decide to go cold turkey所以,当人们决定去冷火鸡。
1284or they use these binding behaviors?还是他们用这些束缚行为?
1285Well, what's happening is that people are engaging发生的事情是人们在参与
1286the specific circuitry within the prefrontal cortex前额皮层内的特定电路
1287that, as I mentioned at the beginning of the episode,正如我在剧集开头提到的
1288are important for context setting.对背景设置很重要。
1289So in the cases of binding behaviors,因此,在约束行为的情况下,
1290the prefrontal cortex is essentially getting trained up前额皮层基本上正在接受训练
1291to understand that, okay, certain things like food要明白,好吧,某些事情 像食物
1292or perhaps sex or perhaps video games,或者性,或者电子游戏,
1293they're okay if they are done or consumed如果它们完成或消耗,它们就没事
1294in appropriate amounts or in particular contexts.在适当数额或特定情况下。
1295That requires the context setting goal-directed behavior这需要背景设定目标导向的行为
1296that the prefrontal cortex is responsible.前额皮层负责。
1297Okay, so for the last 10 or 15 minutes,好吧,所以过去10或15分钟,
1298we've been talking a lot about addiction.我们一直在谈论毒瘾。
1299And actually, this is not an episode about addiction.实际上,这不是关于瘾癖的一集。
1300However, if you understand a little bit但是,如果你理解一点
1301about the dopamine dynamics in an addiction,关于多巴胺在成瘾中的动态,
1302you can leverage that knowledge你可以利用这些知识
1303towards healthy adaptive goal pursuit追求健康的适应目标
1304and achieving your goals.并实现你的目标。
1305So let's think about that in the context所以,让我们考虑一下背景
1306of what generates dopamine peaks,以产生多巴胺的山峰发誓,
1307what generates desire to pursue goals,使人们渴望实现目标,
1308what causes our readout of whether or not是什么导致我们读出是否
1309we achieved a goal or not.我们是否实现了目标。
1310In other words, what allows us to learn换句话说,是什么让我们学会
1311how to pursue goals of different kinds,如何追求不同的目标,
1312not just get good at achieving one kind of goal,不只是能实现某种目标
1313but really understand and get really, really good但真正理解和得到 真正,真的很好
1314at setting goals and pursuing goals of different kinds确定目标和追求不同目标
1315that are adaptive in different areas of life,适应不同生活领域,
1316because we all are going to have to pursue goals因为我们都要追求目标
1317in school, work, relationships, fitness, mental health学校、工作、关系、健身、心理健康
1318and on and on in order to be our best selves.为了成为我们最好的自己
1319That's clear.说得很清楚
1320Well, all of that is possible这一切是可能的
1321using the same basic set of dopamine circuits使用相同的多巴胺基本电路
1322and the same basic dynamics of dopamine.和多巴胺相同的基本动力学
1323So for instance, if we are going to feel motivated at all,因此,举例来说,如果我们要 感觉有动力,
1324that is if we are going to wake up in the morning如果我们早上醒来
1325or have any period of time during our day或者在白天有一段时间
1326in which we feel like we are capable of pursuing goals,我们觉得我们有能力追求目标,
1327we are going to have to have a healthy level我们要保持健康
1328of baseline dopamine.基线多巴胺。
1329In other words, we are going to have to have enough dopamine换句话说,我们要吃足够的多巴胺
1330in the wave pool, enough water in the wave pool, that is,在波浪池,足够的水 在波浪池,即,
1331before we can generate any waves or peaks in dopamine,在多巴胺产生波或峰之前
1332let alone troughs and the rest.更别提槽和其余的了
1333So how do we achieve a healthy baseline level of dopamine?那么我们如何实现多巴胺的健康基线水平?
1334Well, there we can really look好了,我们真的可以看看
1335to some foundational practices,一些基本做法,
1336practices that perhaps you've heard about你也许听说过
1337on this podcast before,在播客之前,
1338and that to some of you might seem a little mundane,而对于你们当中有些人来说, 可能会有点失常,
1339although some of them are a bit more sophisticated,虽然其中一些更精密一些,
1340maybe even esoteric.可能甚至有感觉
1341The good news is that we can all control these things好消息是我们可以控制这些东西
1342and they don't require purchasing anything,他们不需要买任何东西,
1343but they do require some degree但他们确实需要某种程度
1344of regular upkeep and effort.经常保养和努力
1345Those things include what I call the very basics.那些东西包括我称之为基本的东西。
1346Now, the very basics put in the context现在,最基本的情况是
1347of today's discussion are the things今天讨论的内容
1348that put water in the wave pool.把水放进波浪池
1349Those are going to be getting sufficient amounts足够了
1350of quality sleep each night,每天晚上都睡着
1351something that we've done several episodes on我们拍过几集
1352and have online toolkits for,并有在线工具包用于,
1353so you can see the master your sleep episode,这样你就能看见主人 你的睡眠插曲,
1354the perfect your sleep episode,完美的睡眠剧集,
1355the light and health episode.灯光和健康片段。
1356If you want to skip all that如果你想跳过这一切
1357and just get right to the tools,直接拿起工具来
1358we have a sleep toolkit,我们有一个睡眠工具包,
1359or it's actually called the toolkit for sleep或者它实际上叫做睡眠工具包
1360您可以访问 hubermanlab.com,
1361completely zero cost.完全没有成本。
1362You just go there and download that toolkit.你只是去那里 下载工具包。
1363Getting sufficient sleep each night每天晚上都睡饱
1364literally restores your dopamine reserves.完全恢复你的多巴胺储备。
1365It allows dopamine to be present它可以让多巴胺存在
1366and for you to have a level of baseline dopamine让你拥有一定水平的多巴胺
1367that will allow you to even consider your goals你甚至可以考虑你的目标
1368in any kind of meaningful or reasonable way.以任何有意义或合理的方式。
1369Second, there are practices第二,有一些做法
1370that are supported by the scientific literature在科学文献的支持下
1371to increase your baseline level of dopamine提高多巴胺的基准水平
1372that are independent of sleep,与睡眠无关,
1373but are similar to sleep.但和睡觉类似
1374And I like to refer to these as non-sleep deep rest.我想把这些说成是不睡觉的深眠。
1375This is not meditation.这不是冥想。
1376There's actually very little evidence其实证据很少
1377that meditation of the traditional kind传统的冥想
1378of sitting eyes closed, third eye sent,即闭着眼睛,第三只眼睛,
1379focusing on your third eye center,专注于你的第三眼中心,
1380which is this area behind your forehead.这是你额头后面的区域
1381There is very little evidence证据很少
1382that that increases levels of dopamine.增加多巴胺含量
1383There is a place for meditation有一个地方可以冥想
1384in the context of today's discussion,结合今天的讨论,
1385but I'll repeat, meditation itself is a focusing exercise.但我要再说一遍, 冥想本身是一个集中的练习。
1386It is not known to increase dopamine.不知多巴胺会增加。
1387However, non-sleep deep rest, so-called NSDR,然而,不睡觉的深度休息, 所谓的NSDR,
1388very similar, although different非常相似,虽然不同
1389to what's sometimes called yoga nidra,到有时被称为瑜伽尼陀罗,
1390which is where you lie there.这就是你躺在那里。
1391You do a sort of body scan, some long exhale breathing.你做某种身体扫描, 一些长时间的呼气呼吸。
1392NSDR非常类似.
1393You can find a link to a zero cost NSDR on YouTube.您可以在YouTube上找到一个零成本NSDR的链接.
1394It's a 10 minute long one.长一分.
1395There are also 20 and 30 minute ones out there还有20分钟和30分钟
1396also on YouTube, but I'll provide a link也在YouTube上 但我会提供链接
1397to the 10 minute one.10分钟后
1398Those have been shown to increase the amount of dopamine事实证明这些药物会增加多巴胺的数量
1399in your dopamine reserves by up to 65%,在你的多巴胺储备中,最高65%,
1400which is a remarkable number.这是一个显著的数字。
1401So quality sleep, non-sleep deep rest, AKA yoga nidra,因此,优质睡眠,不睡觉 深睡,AKA瑜伽尼德拉,
1402very powerful ways to keep your baseline level保持基线水平的有力方法
1403of dopamine at a sufficient level.多巴胺含量足够大
1404In addition to that, nutrition no doubt plays a role除此之外,营养无疑也发挥了作用
1405in your baseline level of dopamine在多巴胺的基准水平中
1406because tyrosine, the amino acid,因为 ,氨基酸,
1407is the rate limiting enzyme for the synthesis of dopamine.是限制多巴胺合成酶的速率。
1408Tyrosine is present in varying levels in different foods.不同食物中存在不同程度的泰罗辛.
1409You can look those up online.你可以上网查
1410You just simply put in a search for tyrosine levels你只是把 搜索的太罗素水平
1411in different foods, everything from particular cheeses在不同的食物中,所有来自特定奶酪的东西
1412like Parmesan cheese has high levels of tyrosine,就像帕梅桑奶酪有很高的特罗素含量,
1413certain meat, certain nuts, certain vegetables.某种肉类 某种坚果 某种蔬菜
1414Without getting into details and specifics,不谈细节和细节
1415you can find those there, but you need proper nutrition你可以在那里找到那些, 但你需要适当的营养
1416and therefore nutrients in particular tyrosine特别是ros素
1417in order to have sufficient levels of baseline dopamine.为了有足够的基准多巴胺水平。
1418The third thing on the list, and again,名单上的第三件事 再说一遍
1419these are things that we come back to almost every episode,这些东西,我们回到几乎每集,
1420but I don't think they can be repeated enough但我不认为它们可以重复得足够多
1421because these are really things因为这些真的是东西
1422that we need to focus on every 24 hours.我们需要每24小时关注一次
1423You might be able to skip a day here or there你也许可以跳过这或那一天
1424if you get sick or you're traveling如果你生病了或者你正在旅行
1425or you have some major life event,或有重大的生活活动,
1426but really every 24 hours, we need to re-up our sleep.但实际上每24小时, 我们需要恢复睡眠。
1427We need to re-up our nutrients.我们需要重新增加营养
1428Even if you're fasting, you're re-upping your nutrients就算是斋戒,也要补养
1429from stored sources within your body.从你体内储存的来源。
1430The third thing is sunlight,第三件事是阳光
1431morning sunlight in particular.特别是晨光
1432I've done extensive episodes about this.我做了很多关于这个的故事
1433Check out the episode on lighting your health看看这段关于点亮你身体的插曲
1434if you want all the details,如果你想要所有的细节,
1435but you want to try and view sunlight但你想试试看阳光
1436as early in the day as possible.尽可能早一点
1437Five to 10 minutes on a clear day, minimum.每天5到10分钟,最少
143810 to 20 minutes on a cloudy day, minimum.最少10到20分钟的天气
143920 or 30 minutes on a very overcast day, minimum.20或30分钟的一天,最短。
1440Without sunglasses, don't stare at the sun.没有太阳镜 别盯着太阳看
1441Please don't damage your eyes.请勿伤眼.
1442Look off, slightly off from the sun,向外看,略离太阳
1443but yes, you want to face eastward towards the sun.但是,是的,你想面对 向东朝向太阳。
1444And on those cloudy days,在那多云的日子里,
1445that's especially important to do.这很重要
1446Why?为什么?
1447Well, viewing morning sunlight increases cortisol嗯,看晨光会增加皮质醇
1448early in the day, which is excellent早年,这是很好的
1449because you want cortisol elevated early in the day因为你想早点升起皮质醇
1450and you want it lower later in the day.你想在一天晚些时候降低它。
1451And because of the relationship between the cells由于细胞之间的关系
1452in your eye that sense sunlight,在你的眼中,感觉阳光,
1453specifically morning sunlight,特别是晨光,
1454believe it or not, that happens,信不信由你 发生的事
1455and signal to your hypothalamus并指示你的下丘脑
1456and the relationship between the hypothalamus和丘脑之间的关系
1457and the pituitary and other endocrine organs,以及垂体和其他内分泌器官,
1458it sets in motion a dopamine-related cascade启动多巴胺相关级联
1459in neuromodulators, dopamine, and hormones在神经调节器、多巴胺和激素中
1460that lead to states of wellbeing, elevated mood,导致幸福,情绪升高,
1461alertness, et cetera, throughout the day.警告,等等, 整个白天。
1462It also helps your sleep at night,也帮助你晚上睡觉
1463but today we're talking about dopamine.但是今天我们谈论的是多巴胺
1464So yes, believe it or not,所以,是的,相信与否,
1465that morning sunlight exposure does increase阳光照射会增加
1466your levels of dopamine, not just cortisol.你的多巴胺含量 不只是皮质醇
1467And fourth on the list is going to be movement,名单上的第四个是运动,
1468exercise of varying kinds.各种运动。
1469Could be resistance training,可能是抵抗训练,
1470could be cardiovascular training.可能是心血管训练
1471That does increase levels of dopamine.这的确增加了多巴胺的含量。
1472Here, we're not talking about achieving peaks in dopamine.在这里,我们不是在谈论实现多巴胺峰。
1473That could be accomplished through这可以通过下列途径实现:
1474setting a personal record, a PR,建立个人记录,公关,
1475or through sprints or heavy lifts,或通过短跑或重型电梯,
1476or learning some new dynamic movement.或学习一些新的动态运动。
1477What we're really talking about here我们真正谈论的是什么
1478is getting into a regular exercise program正在进入一个常规的练习程序
1479of, if not every day, at least five days a week,如果不是每天,至少一周五天,
1480a mixture of cardiovascular and resistance exercise.心血管和抗药性运动的混合体。
1481That, we also know, is known to,我们也知道,众所周知,
1482elevate and maintain an elevated level of baseline dopamine.提高和保持高水平的基准多巴胺。
1483So it's not just about the euphoria you feel所以,它不只是关于 你感觉的喜悦
1484during or after exercise.在锻炼期间或之后。
1485It's also about the baseline level of dopamine还有多巴胺的基线水平
1486that's achieved through regular movement通过正常移动实现
1487and engaging in movement.并参与运动。
1488And if you're asking, how could that be?如果你问,怎么会这样?
1489Well, you already know the answer.你已经知道答案了
1490The circuits in the brain and body that generate movement,大脑和身体中产生运动的电路,
1491not just goal-seeking, but movement itself,不仅是寻找目标, 运动本身,
1492as I mentioned earlier, that nigrostriatal pathway.正如我前面提到的, 尼格罗斯三角形路径。
1493And yes, that circuit is separate是的,电路是分开的
1494from the VTA nucleus accumbens to cortical circuit,从VTA核蓄积物到皮质电路,
1495the mesocortical circuit中间电路
1496that we've mainly been focusing on today, but they interact.我们今天主要专注于, 但是它们相互作用。
1497And so by engaging in regular movement,因此,通过进行正常运动,
1498you ensure that you're maintaining elevated levels你保证你保持高水平
1499of baseline dopamine, which is what you want基线多巴胺,这是你想要的
1500if you're going to be able to engage如果你能参与
1501in any kind of motivated pursuit behavior of any kind.任何一种动机的追逐行为
1502So those are the fundamentals that will set这些是必备的基础
1503the level of baseline dopamine in your system.系统中的多巴胺基线水平。
1504A couple of key points.几个要点.
1505Yes, there is variation based on both genetics是的,两种基因都有变化
1506and circumstance in baseline levels of dopamine.多巴胺的基线水平。
1507If someone's going through a particular hard time,如果有人经历一个特别的艰难时期,
1508or if somebody inherited a gene或者有人继承了基因
1509in the dopamine synthesis pathway,在多巴胺合成途径中,
1510that simply affords them higher levels of baseline dopamine.只能让他们得到更高的度量多巴胺
1511We likely know these people,我们可能认识这些人,
1512they seem hyper-motivated all the time,他们似乎一直有超强的动机,
1513not just based on prior success.不仅仅是基于先前的成功。
1514They just seem to have a lot of energy他们似乎精力充沛
1515and a lot of go-drive.和很多去开车。
1516You talk about activation energy.你谈论激活能量。
1517Some of you may know what that term means,你们中有些人可能知道这个词的意思
1518others of you won't.其他人不会的
1519Having low activation energy is great.低激活能量是伟大的。
1520I mean, the amount of energy that it takes我是说,需要多少能量
1521to get into action to pursue adaptive行动起来追求适应性
1522and meaningful, healthy goals.以及有意义、健康的目标。
1523Some people just seem to have lower activation energy有些人似乎活性能量较低
1524and higher levels of dopamine多巴胺含量较高
1525are probably associated with that.可能和这件事有关
1526Some of us have lower levels of baseline dopamine.我们有些人的多巴胺基线水平较低。
1527Regardless, everyone needs to engage无论如何,每个人都需要参与
1528in the foundational things that I just mentioned在我刚才提到的基本事物中
1529a few moments ago, every 24 hours, or at least strive to.几分钟前,每24小时, 或至少努力。
1530There is no escaping that.这一点是无法逃避的。
1531I'd like to just take a brief moment我想花一点时间
1532and thank one of our podcast sponsors,感谢我们的播客赞助商之一,
1533which is InsideTracker.这是内追踪器。
1534InsideTracker is a personalized nutrition platform内部追踪器是一个个性化的营养平台
1535that analyzes data from your blood and DNA分析血液和DNA中的数据
1536to help you better understand your body帮助你更好地理解你的身体
1537and help you reach your health goals.帮助你达到健康目标。
1538I've long been a believer in getting regular blood work done我早就相信会做正常的血液工作
1539for the simple reason that blood work is the only way原因很简单 血液工作是唯一的方法
1540that you can monitor the markers, such as hormone markers,你可以监视标记,例如激素标记,
1541lipids, metabolic factors, et cetera,脂质,代谢因子等,
1542that impact your immediate and long-term health.影响你的近期和长期健康。
1543One major challenge with blood work, however,不过,血液工作是一大挑战,
1544is that most of the time,是大部分时间,
1545it does not come back with any information它不会带回任何信息
1546about what to do in order to move the values如何移动值
1547for hormones, metabolic factors, lipids, et cetera,激素 代谢因子 脂质等
1548into the ranges that you want.进入您想要的范围。
1549With InsideTracker, changing those values有了内部跟踪器, 改变这些值
1550becomes very straightforward变得非常直接
1551because it has a personalized dashboard that you can use因为它有一个个性化的仪表板 你可以使用
1552to address the nutrition-based, behavior-based,解决基于营养和行为,
1553supplement-based approaches that you can use可使用的基于补充的方法
1554in order to move those values into the ranges以将这些值移入区域
1555that are optimal for you, your vitality,这是你的最佳, 你的活力,
1556and your longevity.还有你的长寿
1557InsideTracker now includes a measurement内部跟踪器现在包括测量
1558所谓的APO-B
1559in their ultimate plan.在他们的最终计划。
1560APO-B is a key marker of cardiovascular health,APO-B是心血管健康的关键标志,
1561and therefore, there's extreme value因此,有 极端的价值
1562to knowing your APO-B levels.了解你的APO -B级别。
1563If you'd like to try InsideTracker,如果你想试试内幕追踪器
1564你可以去内部tracker.com slash huperman(英语:
1565to get 20% off any of InsideTracker's plans.百分之二十的内线追踪计划
1566Again, that's insidetracker.com slash huberman再说一遍,这是内幕追踪器.com 斜拉杆手
1567to get 20% off.得到20%的关机。
1568Now, there are things that can increase one's现在,有些东西可以增加一个人的
1569baseline level of dopamine further,进一步多巴胺的基准水平,
1570and some of those get us into the realm和其中一些 带我们进入世界
1571of supplements and prescription drugs,补充药物和处方药,
1572but for now, I just want to mention a few of them不过现在,我只想说几句话
1573that are purely behavioral in nature, are zero cost,这是纯粹的行为性质, 零成本,
1574and that have been shown in the research literature以及研究文献中显示的
1575to increase baseline levels of dopamine提高多巴胺的基准水平
1576for long periods of time, and this is important时间很长 这一点很重要
1577because if any of you are out there listening因为如果你们中有谁在听
1578to this thing about peaks and troughs and baselines,关于山峰、山沟、基线,
1579you might be asking, wait, what's the difference你可能问,等等,有什么区别
1580between a baseline and a peak, really?在基线和高峰之间,真的吗?
1581Because if, for instance, you get a big peak,因为,比如说,如果你得到一个大峰,
1582well, that's a peak in the baseline,嗯,这是一个高峰 在基线,
1583so how do you distinguish between peak and baseline?你们如何区分峰值和基线?
1584Well, there's a trough, and let's say that trough嗯,有一个槽,让我们说,槽
1585lasts an hour, is that hour-long trough your baseline?持续一个小时, 那是一个小时的轮廓 通过你的基线?
1586Or where's your set point?或者你的定点在哪里?
1587How do you establish your set point?你怎么确定你的设定点?
1588And more importantly, how do you raise your set point?更重要的是,如何提高你的定点?
1589Well, if you're not already asking that question,如果你还没有问这个问题
1590I just asked it for you.我只是问你。
1591I define an increase in your baseline level in dopamine我定义了多巴胺的基线水平提高
1592to be anything that increases dopamine成为任何增加多巴胺的东西
1593for more than one hour.一个多小时
1594When we think about cocaine, amphetamine, pornography,当我们想到可卡因 苯丙胺 色情制品
1595sex, caffeine, things of that sort,性 咖啡因之类的东西
1596regardless of how long one engages无论一个人参与多久
1597in a bout of those behaviors or substances,在那些行为或物质中,
1598the increases in dopamine are going to be多巴胺的增量将会增加
1599relatively short-lived on the order of minutes to an hour,相对短暂的寿命 大约几分钟到一小时,
1600sometimes longer.有时更长。
1601Now, I didn't say that's how long you're engaging我可没说你们要交往多久
1602in the behaviors, I said that's how long those increases在行为,我说,这是多久 这些增加
1603in dopamine are going to occur,在多巴胺会发生,
1604even if you were to continually engage in those behaviors.即使你继续做那些事
1605And remember, with continual engagement记住,不断的交往
1606in a dopamine spiking behavior,在多巴胺的尖端行为,
1607behavior that increases dopamine peaks,行为增加多巴胺峰,
1608the height of those peaks, remember,那些山峰的高度,你当记念,
1609gets lower and lower and lower,越来越低,越来越低
1610especially in a short amount of time特别是在短时间内
1611and then drops below baseline.然后下降到基线以下。
1612There are tools and techniques that you can use有些工具和技术可以使用
1613to elevate your baseline level of dopamine以提升多巴胺的基准水平
1614for long periods of time.长时期。
1615And here again, this is done in addition to the basic tools再说一遍,这是除了基本工具之外
1616that I mentioned a few moments ago.我刚才提到的。
1617The simplest one for which there are excellent data,最简单的一个 有出色的数据,
1618and here I'm referring to data published这里我指的是公布的数据
1619in the European Journal of Physiology,在欧洲生理学杂志上,
1620I'll provide a link to this,我会提供这个链接,
1621is that exposure of your body up to the neck to cold water,你的身体被冷水照射到脖子上
1622and it doesn't have to be super cold, by the way,顺便说一句,它不必是超级冷的,
1623to cold water has been shown to increase baseline levels已表明,冷水增加了基线水平。
1624of dopamine and the other so-called catecholamines,多巴胺和其他所谓的丙胺,
1625which include norepinephrine and epinephrine,包括肾上腺素和肾上腺素,
1626but for sake of today's discussion,但为了今天的讨论,
1627dopamine in particular for not just one,多巴胺尤其不止一种
1628but at least two and probably as long as four or five hours.但至少两小时,大概四五个小时
1629There've been some additional scientific studies还有其他一些科学研究
1630after the paper I just mentioned,我刚刚提到的那篇论文之后
1631and it's really remarkable.这真的很了不起。
1632You can accomplish this a number of different ways.你可以以不同的方式完成这个任务。
1633You could get into a cold shower in the morning,你可以在早上冲个冷水澡
1634and I do recommend doing this in the morning.我建议明早再做
1635And in that case, it's okay to get the water on your head.这样的话,可以把水放在头上
1636In fact, I recommend it.事实上,我推荐
1637You could get into an ice bath.你可以进入冰浴。
1638You could get into a cold plunge.你可能会陷入一个寒冷的陷阱。
1639In these circumstances, I'm not suggesting this在这种情况下,我不建议这样
1640for sake of increasing metabolism or fat loss.为了增加新陈代谢或脂肪损失。
1641The whole discussion around deliberate cold整个讨论 关于故意冷
1642and metabolism and fat loss以及新陈代谢和脂肪损失
1643has become a little bit controversial.已经变得有点争议。
1644We won't go there now,我们现在不去那里
1645mostly because we're focused on the clear ability大部分是因为我们专注于清晰的能力
1646of deliberate cold exposure to increase dopamine故意接触多巴胺
1647for long periods of time, AKA your dopamine baseline.长期,AKA 你的多巴胺基线。
1648The ways to do this vary depending on the temperature.这样做的方式因温度不同而不同.
1649So for instance, there are data pointing to the fact例如,有数据表明
1650that if you want to get a long lasting increase如果你想要长期增加
1651in your baseline dopamine,在你的基线多巴胺,
1652you could take a very cold shower or cold plunge你可以洗个很冷的澡 或冷的跌倒
1653or ice bath for a very brief period of time,或冰浴 非常短暂的时间,
1654anywhere from 30 seconds to two minutes,从30秒到2分钟,
1655maybe three minutes,也许三分钟
1656but probably 30 seconds to two minutes.但大概30秒到2分钟
1657Now you might ask, what is very cold?现在你可以问,什么是非常冷?
1658Here I have to be careful我一定要小心点
1659because I don't want to recommend anything因为我不想推荐任何东西
1660that's going to cause anyone to have a heart attack这会让任何人心脏病发作
1661or going to shock or anything of that sort.或会震惊 或者任何类似的东西。
1662It's going to vary by person会因人而异
1663depending on your level of cold tolerance.取决于你耐寒的程度
1664What I recommend is if you are going我的建议是,如果你要去
1665for the short exposure, long dopamine release approach,对于短暂接触,长度多巴胺释放方法,
1666that is 30 seconds to two minutes,这是30秒到2分钟,
1667that you start warmer than you think you need to,你开始的温暖 比你想的需要,
1668and then you ease into it over a few days.几天后你就会放松下来
1669But we're really talking about ranges in temperature但我们说的是温度的幅度
1670from anywhere from about 37 degrees Fahrenheit华氏37度左右
1671to about 55 degrees Fahrenheit.华氏55度左右
1672Again, be careful, approach it with caution再小心一点,小心一点
1673and ease into it.并进入其中,
1674I do recommend doing this early in the day,我建议早点这么做
1675and I should mention not after strength我不应该说在实力之后
1676or hypertrophy training或超营养训练
1677because within the six hours因为在这六小时内
1678after strength or hypertrophy training,经过体力训练或超营养训练
1679this deliberate cold exposure,这种故意的冷暴露,
1680especially immersion up to the neck,特别是浸透在脖子上,
1681can suppress the strength and hypertrophy adaptation可以抑制强度和超营养适应
1682that the training is designed to accomplish.训练是用来完成的
1683So that's one approach.所以,这是一个方法。
1684The other approach that's supported by the literature另一种得到文献支持的方法
1685to increase baseline levels of dopamine提高多巴胺的基准水平
1686for very long periods of time.在很长一段时间。
1687In fact, this is the original approach,事实上,这是最初的方法,
1688is to get into warmer water.要进入更温暖的水。
1689So not warm, but warmer.所以不是温暖,而是温暖。
1690So 60 degree Fahrenheit water up to the neck所以华氏60度的水 直达脖子
1691and to stay there for about 45 to 60 minutes.在那里呆45到60分钟
1692The reason I don't think most people will do that我觉得大多数人不会这么做的原因
1693or that most people would prefer或者大多数人更喜欢
1694a shorter colder exposure protocol更短的冷暴露协议
1695is that most people don't have 45 to 60 minutes each morning大部分人每天早上没有45到60分钟
1696to get into water and sit there.进入水里坐在那里。
1697And in that study,在那个研究中,
1698they actually had them sitting in lawn chairs basically他们实际上让他们坐在草椅上
1699in the shallow end of a pool up to their neck在水池的浅端,直到他们的脖子
1700for a full 60 minutes整整60分钟
1701and then measuring dopamine release and so forth.然后测量多巴胺的释放等。
1702So there are a bunch of different ways to do this.所以,有很多不同的方法可以做到这一点。
1703I should emphasize,我应强调,
1704I don't think you need to be super precise我不觉得你需要非常精确
1705about the temperature and even the duration.关于温度,甚至持续时间。
1706What I recommend is find a temperature我的建议是找到温度
1707that's uncomfortably cold to you,这对你来说很冷
1708meaning that you feel agitated and you want to get out,意思是,你感到焦躁 并且你想离开,
1709but that you're confident you can safely stay in.但你有信心能安全地留在这
1710And again, I can't give a simple prescriptive to everybody,再说一次,我不能给每个人一个简单的指令,
1711but this is known to increase baseline levels of dopamine,但已知这可以提高多巴胺的基准水平,
1712significantly, in fact, double them or more很明显,事实上,双倍或更多
1713for long periods of time, meaning hours up to four,长时间,意思是四小时以下
1714maybe even six hours into the day,也许甚至六小时后的一天,
1715which is one of the reasons I suggest doing this这是我建议这么做的原因之一
1716early in the day.早年时.
1717I happen to get into a cold plunge or take a cold shower我碰巧遇到冷水或冷水
1718first thing in the morning.明天一早开始
1719I do go outside and get my sunlight first sometimes.我有时会先出去取日光
1720Sometimes I do the cold first.有时我先做冷。
1721It really depends on my circumstances这真的取决于我的情况
1722and how I'm feeling that day.以及那天我的感觉
1723I don't think it really matters which one you do first,我并不认为你先做哪个很重要
1724but you want to try and get both of those in但你想试着让两个都进来
1725early in the day早点
1726because you really want the catecholamines and cortisol因为你真的想要 丙烯胺和皮质醇
1727elevated early in the day.早年升学。
1728So that's deliberate cold exposure.所以这是故意的冷暴露。
1729We already talked about exercise.我们已经谈过锻炼。
1730So if you're doing your exercise early in the day,所以如果你很早就在练习
1731there's no reason why it couldn't be done没有理由不能做到这一点
1732in concert with this deliberate cold exposure.与这种蓄意的冷暴露相配合。
1733I recommend doing the deliberate cold exposure first我建议你先故意冷暴露
1734for the reasons we talked about a few minutes ago.我们几分钟前讨论过的原因
1735And then of course there are compounds,当然还有化合物
1736both prescription and over-the-counter compounds处方和场外化合物
1737that can indeed raise your baseline levels of dopamine它可以提高你的多巴胺基准量
1738for an hour or more.一小时或更长时间
1739And when I say an hour or more,当我说一个小时或更多时,
1740it really depends on individual variation这真的取决于个体的变异
1741in terms of how quickly you metabolize dopamine.从多巴胺的代谢速度来看
1742And it depends on individual variation这取决于个体的变化
1743in how you manage or tolerate different dosages of drugs如何管理或容忍不同剂量的毒品
1744and different types of drugs.和不同类型的毒品。
1745So the typical drugs,所以典型的药物,
1746and here I'm talking about legal prescription drugs我说的是合法处方药
1747for increasing dopamine are things like Ritalin, Adderall.增加多巴胺是利他林 阿德雷尔之类的东西
1748Modafinil和Armodafinil也利用该系统。
1749And I did an entire episode about ADHD,我做了一整集关于ADHD,
1750which is the typical context in which you hear这是你听到的典型语境
1751about these prescription drugs.关于这些处方药。
1752But assuming it's prescribed by a doctor但假设是医生开的
1753for either clinical reasons like ADHD or for other reasons,或出于临床原因,如ADHD或其他原因,
1754all of those compounds do significantly increase所有这些化合物都明显增加
1755baseline levels of dopamine for many, many hours.多巴胺的基准水平 持续许多小时。
1756That's absolutely clear and it's one of the major reasons这绝对清楚,这是主要原因之一
1757why those drugs are so effective为什么这些药物如此有效
1758in increasing motivation and attention.增加动力和注意力。
1759Then there are compounds that are sold over-the-counter,还有一些化合物被卖出场外,
1760things like amino acids, such as L-tyrosine itself.诸如氨基酸之类的东西,如L-tyrosine本身.
1761That's a very commonly sold and used amino acid.这是一个非常常用的销售和使用氨基酸.
1762It's present in a lot of so-called pre-workout formulas.现于许多所谓前修行法中.
1763I, as many of you know,我,你们很多人都知道,
1764am a fan of single ingredient supplements是单一成分补充剂的粉丝
1765for the most part,大多数时候,
1766aside from foundational supplements like AG1,除AG1等基础补充剂外,
1767which give you many, many micronutrients kind of all together它给你很多,很多微量营养素 类的在一起
1768because it would be nearly impossible因为那几乎是不可能的
1769to consume each of those as individual ingredients将每种物质作为个别成分消费
1770and get the right amounts, et cetera.并获得正确的金额,等等。
1771But for all other supplements,但对于所有其他的副刊,
1772I'm a big believer in parsing what you need我非常相信解析你需要的东西
1773and what's most effective for you和什么对你最有效的
1774in single ingredient formulations.单成分配方。
1775And the typical ways in which people work以及人们的典型工作方式
1776to elevate their baseline levels of dopamine提高多巴胺的基准水平
1777辅料是使用L-tyrosine,
1778which, as I mentioned earlier,正如我刚才提到的,
1779is the rate-limiting enzyme for dopamine,是多巴胺的限速酶,
1780或者通过使用所谓的macunapurines,
1781which is actually very similar to L-dopa,这其实和L -dopa非常相似,
1782which is the treatment for Parkinson's.这是帕金森的治疗方法
1783Macunapurines actually comes from the velvety outside coating麦克纳普林其实来自外涂层的天鹅绒
1784of a certain bean.一定的豆类。
1785I know it sounds really esoteric,我知道这听起来很不可思议
1786but that's actually where it's found in nature但事实上,这是在大自然中发现的
1787and is really 99% L-dopa.而且真的是99%的L -dopa。
1788And I confess, having tried macunapurines,我承认,尝试过马可那普林斯,
1789having examined the scientific literature研究科学文献
1790on macunapurines, there is some evidence有证据表明,
1791that it can increase dopamine,它可以增加多巴胺,
1792especially in that tuberinfradibular pathway,特别是在那个管状辐射路径,
1793because it can tap into some因为它可以利用一些
1794of the hormone-related functions of the pituitary.与垂体激素有关的功能。
1795It does increase alertness and mood.它确实增加了警惕性和情绪。
1796It might even increase libido, motivation, et cetera.甚至可能增加性欲,动机等.
1797But the effects of macunapurines tend to be very much但马库纳普林斯的影响很大
1798of the increasing the peak in dopamine,多巴胺的峰值上升,
1799and then very quickly dropping that peak.然后非常快地降下峰顶。
1800In other words, the peak trough phenomenon,换句话说,顶峰槽现象,
1801not for increasing baseline levels of dopamine.不是为了提高多巴胺的基准水平。
1802Now, it's likely different for people with Parkinson's帕金森症患者可能不一样
1803who are taking prescription drugs服用处方药的人
1804that are similar to macunapurines.类似马可那普林斯。
1805So if people have Parkinson's,所以如果人们有帕金森的,
1806oftentimes they are prescribed things like L-dopa,经常是L -dopa这样的处方
1807which is in the pathway to dopamine synthesis,在多巴胺合成过程中,
1808or they are prescribed things like bromocryptine,或如溴丙烯,
1809which will indeed increase dopamine.这会增加多巴胺
1810And I do realize that some people use我意识到有些人使用
1811those prescription drugs recreationally,那些处方药 休闲,
1812which I don't recommend.我不建议你这么做
1813Those drugs can be used这些药物可以使用
1814to increase baseline levels of dopamine,提高多巴胺的基准水平,
1815but more typically they cause peaks in dopamine但更常见的是它们造成多巴胺的峰值
1816and troughs in dopamine,和多巴胺的槽,
1817which is why I do not recommend them.这就是为什么我不推荐他们。
1818They are not going to allow you to accomplish他们不会让你完成的
1819what you want if your goal is more motivation, et cetera.如果你的目标是更多动力,你想要什么,等等。
1820In fact, they are likely to do the opposite,事实上,他们很可能采取相反的做法,
1821give you a big peak in alertness,以警示你们,
1822and then a crash that can include depressive symptoms然后发生包括抑郁症状的崩溃
1823and just not feeling very good.感觉不太好
1824L-tyrosine, however, has been examined但是,L-ty氨酸已被检查过
1825in the scientific literature,在科学文献中,
1826and at reasonably low dosages has been shown并且剂量相当低
1827to increase circulating and available levels of dopamine,增加多巴胺的流通量和可用量,
1828both in the brain and body,在大脑和身体,
1829and lead to increased cognitive performance,并导致认知性能提高,
1830and in some cases, physical output.在某些情况下,物理输出。
1831I'll provide links to a few of these studies,我会提供一些链接 这些研究,
1832but the two that I really parsed most finally但两个 我真正解析 最终于
1833for sake of this episode,为了这集,
1834真的只是专注于服用L -Tyrosine
1835under conditions where your baseline levels of dopamine在多巴胺的基准水平下
1836are reduced due to stress由于压力而减少
1837and under conditions where there's no stress在没有压力的情况下
1838and people are trying to increase their baseline levels并且人们正在努力提高基线水平
1839of dopamine for sake of improving cognitive function.多巴胺是为了提高认知功能
1840The first paper is entitled Effective Tyrosine第一篇论文题为“有效的泰罗辛”
1841on Cognitive Function and Blood Pressure Under Stress.认知功能和压力下的血压
1842I'll provide a link to this in the show note captions,我会在节目字幕中提供链接
1843and it's one of many papers, really,这是很多文件之一,真的,
1844dating back to the early 90s,追溯到90年代早期
1845exploring how relatively high, frankly,探讨如何相对高,坦率地说,
1846relatively high dosages of L-tyrosine相对高剂量的L-ty
1847taken under conditions of stress在压力条件下实施
1848allow people to rescue some of their cognitive function允许人们挽救自己的认知功能
1849in terms of working memory tasks在工作记忆任务方面
1850and other kinds of cognitive tasks,和其他类型的认知任务,
1851visual pursuit tasks, and so on.视觉追求任务等.
1852The second paper is entitled Tyrosine Improves第二篇题为《泰罗辛改良》
1853Working Memory in a Multitasking Environment,在多任务环境中工作记忆,
1854and the second paper is perhaps more interesting第二篇也许更有趣
1855because it involves exploring因为它涉及探索
1856the use of tyrosine supplementation,使用ty辅,
1857basically taking tyrosine about an hour基本上要用一个小时
1858before a cognitive task or set of cognitive tasks在认知任务或一组认知任务之前
1859that involve a lot of multitasking and working memory.这涉及到很多多任务和工作记忆。
1860Working memory, for those of you that don't know,工作记忆, 对于你们这些不知道,
1861is your ability to maintain small batches of information是您保存小批量信息的能力
1862in your mind for relatively short periods of time.在你的大脑中 相对较短的时间。
1863So, for instance, if I tell you my phone number举例来说,如果我告诉你我的电话号码
1864or the phone number where I grew up, 493-2931,或者我成长的电话号码 493 -2931
1865if you can remember that,如果你能记住,
1866chances are you'll remember it for 30 seconds, 60 seconds,你可能记得它30秒60秒
1867but that you won't remember it tomorrow但你明天就不记得了
1868because there's really no reason to.因为真的没有任何理由。
1869A lot of the tasks that we do throughout the day我们整天做很多工作
1870involve working memory,涉及工作记忆,
1871and working memory is very subject to interference工作记忆受到干扰
1872from other tasks that we happen to be doing,从其他任务 我们碰巧正在做,
1873like looking at our phone or having a conversation比如看我们的电话或者聊天
1874or trying to navigate through a city.或试图通过城市。
1875It involves a lot of attention,这涉及到很多关注,
1876and this study shows that tyrosine improves working memory,这份研究显示 特罗素能改善工作记忆
1877especially in the context of multitasking特别是在多重任务方面
1878and having a lot of conflicting goals.并且有很多相互冲突的目标
1879And they did a number of really nice experiments here.他们在这里做了一些非常好的实验。
1880Again, it's a small study, not that many subjects,再说一次,这是个小研究,不是很多课题
1881but it's one of several papers.但它是几份论文之一。
1882In fact, this is the paper that kind of set in motion,事实上,这是 那种启动的论文,
1883the domino of other papers,其他文件的多米诺,
1884exploring the efficacy of L-tyrosine探索L-ty的功效
1885for cognitive performance.为认知表现。
1886And they looked at working memory tasks, of course,他们研究工作记忆任务,当然,
1887but also auditory visual tasks,也执行视觉任务,
1888and they involve some interference of visual cues它们涉及一些视觉提示的干扰
1889and things of that sort,之类的东西,
1890and they saw some really interesting effects.他们看到了一些非常有趣的效果。
1891Basically, when we need to attend to multiple things基本上,当我们需要处理很多事情
1892at the same time, L-tyrosine can help us do that,同时,L -tyrosine可以帮助我们做到这一点,
1893at least as it relates to memory.至少和记忆有关
1894当我说L -tyrosine,我的意思是
1895is having your baseline levels of dopamine elevated让你的多巴胺基线水平升高
1896can really help navigate multitasking environments,能够真正帮助导航多任务环境,
1897especially as it relates to working memory,特别是因为它涉及到工作记忆,
1898and this is true under conditions of stress这在压力条件下是真实的
1899and under your conditions of not stressful, okay?在你没有压力的条件下,好吗?
1900You might say, well, isn't multitasking stressful itself?你可能会说,嗯,多任务 压力本身?
1901Yes, it can be, but when we talk about是的,可以,但当我们谈论
1902under conditions of stress,在压力条件下,
1903we're talking about people who are sleep deprived,我们谈论的人 谁睡眠不足,
1904we're talking about people that are under我们谈论的是那些在
1905other kinds of psychological or physical stress,其他类型的心理或身体压力,
1906L-tyrosine can help in that context as well.在这种背景下,L-tyrosine也可以有所帮助。
1907So as I mentioned before, in these studies,所以,正如我之前提到,在这些研究中,
1908they use very high dosages of L-tyrosine,他们使用非常高的L-tyrosine剂量,
1909so high that actually I don't recommend them.这么高,实际上我不推荐他们。
1910They did measure stress hormones,他们确实测量了压力激素
1911they did measure blood pressure and things of that sort,他们确实测量了血压和类似的东西,
1912but I want to caution you, I do not recommend,但我想提醒你 我不建议
1913we'll say it again, I do not recommend我们再说一遍,我不推荐
1914following the dosages that were used in these two studies根据这两个研究中使用的剂量
1915because they are exceedingly high.因为他们是高的。
1916They used 100 milligrams per kilogram of body weight每公斤体重用100毫克
1917of tyrosine one hour prior to these cognitive tasks.在完成这些认知任务前一个小时
1918Now, I weigh about 220 pounds,现在,我体重约220磅,
1919I'm a little bit lighter than that,我比这轻一点,
1920so that's 100 kilograms approximately.大约100公斤
1921Translated from this study, that would mean转自本研究报告,这意味着
1922that had I participated in the study我曾经参与研究
1923and I wasn't in the placebo group,我没有在安慰剂组,
1924但我当时是L -tyrosine集团的,
1925I would have been given 10,000 milligrams of L-tyrosine,我本来会得到一万毫克的L -tyrosine,
1926which is 10 grams of L-tyrosine, I do not recommend that.我建议不要这样
1927In fact, there are papers showing that事实上,有文件显示,
1928as little as 500 milligrams,小到500毫克,
1929but perhaps up to one gram, that is a thousand milligrams,但也许一克,即一千毫克,
1930or 1,500 milligrams, a gram and a half of L-tyrosine或1500毫克,一克半的L-ty
1931taken 30 to 60 minutes before a cognitive or physical task在认知或身体任务前30至60分钟
1932can increase baseline levels of dopamine能够提高多巴胺的基准水平
1933for extended periods of time,长期,
1934and thereby improve performance从而改进业绩
1935on those mental or physical tasks.完成那些身心任务
1936So if you are somebody who's interested如果你是有兴趣的人
1937在尝试L-tyrosine, 请知道增加
1938in baseline levels of dopamine can be substantial.多巴胺的基线水平可能相当大。
1939They are long lasting, which qualifies them它们是长久的, 这符合他们的条件
1940as baseline increases as opposed to peaks.与峰值相比,基线增加。
1941And I would say you should also start而且我会说,你也应该开始
1942with the lowest possible dose.尽可能低的剂量。
1943So for most people, 250 to 500 milligrams对大多数人来说,250至500毫克
1944is going to be a reasonable starting dose,这将是一个合理的开始剂量,
1945depending on your body weight,根据你的体重,
1946smaller people start with 250, larger, maybe 500.较小的人从250人开始, 更大的,也许500人。
1947Keep an eye on whether or not you're combining it注意看你们是否结合
1948with caffeine or with any other stimulants.咖啡因或任何其他兴奋剂。
1949And keep in mind that, again,记住,再次,
1950the bigger the peak in dopamine,多巴胺的峰值越大,
1951the bigger the trough in dopamine afterwards.多巴胺的槽越大
1952So pay attention to whether or not you experience a crash所以要注意你是否经历过空难
1953that same day or the next day.当天或第二天,
1954But chances are, if you're using a relatively low level但机会是,如果你使用 相对较低的水平
1955of L-tyrosine, so anywhere from 250, maybe 500 milligrams约250毫克或500毫克
1956or a thousand milligrams of L-tyrosine或千毫克的L-ty
1957prior to cognitive or physical work认知或体力工作之前
1958and taken early in the day, by the way,顺便说一句,
1959because this can act as a bit of a stimulant,因为这能起到刺激作用
1960that you're going to achieve these long lasting increases你将会实现这些长期的增长
1961in baseline dopamine.在基线多巴胺中。
1962But please also keep in mind that I always, always suggest但请记住,我总是,总是建议
1963that you engage in the proper behaviors你们的行为,
1964and you disengage from the improper behaviors你远离不义的行为,
1965as a first line of offense on any health goal.作为任何健康目标的首要犯罪线。
1966So now you know how to set your baseline levels现在你知道如何设定基线水平了
1967of dopamine at the highest possible level.多巴胺的含量最高
1968You of course want to guard that baseline level of dopamine你当然想保护多巴胺的基线水平
1969very carefully.非常仔细。
1970So for instance, you want to avoid any kind of behaviors举个例子,你想避免任何行为
1971or substances that are going to peak your baseline level或将达到基准水平峰值的物质
1972of dopamine very high or very sharply.多巴胺的含量很高或非常高
1973Or if you do engage in those types of behaviors,或者,如果你确实从事 此类行为,
1974whatever they may be, that you are well aware无论他们是什么,你都是彻知的,
1975that your baseline level of dopamine will drop您的多巴胺基准水平将下降
1976far below what it was after that peak has fallen.远远低于高峰之后的水平
1977You will be essentially in the quote unquote trough.您将基本上在引文未引用槽。
1978If however, you find yourself in that trough,但是,如果你发现自己在这个槽,
1979you now have the knowledge to understand你现在有 知识来理解
1980that that trough will resolve if you wait enough time.如果你等得够久 那槽就能解决了
1981That baseline level of dopamine that you were at你当时的多巴胺基准水平
1982prior to the peak will come back.在高峰来临之前
1983You will feel better.你会感觉好点的
1984However, most people don't know that.然而,大多数人并不知道这一点.
1985And as a consequence, when they feel that low,结果,当他们觉得低落时,
1986that is they feel kind of a motivated,他们有某种动机,
1987maybe a little bit depressed,也许有点沮丧,
1988maybe a lot a motivated or a lot depressed可能有很多动机或抑郁症
1989following some quote unquote peak experience.跟随一些引用 未经引用的高峰经验。
1990What they end up doing is thinking他们最后会想
1991about what caused that peak experience关于是什么导致的高峰经历
1992and then go back and try to reengage in the behavior然后回去尝试重新参与行为
1993and try and regenerate that peak experience.并尝试再生 高峰的经验。
1994But you now know that that is a terrible strategy.但你现在知道这是一个可怕的策略。
1995In fact, that strategy will only lead to diminished peaks事实上,这一策略只会导致峰值减少
1996from the same experience.从同样的经历。
1997It will lead to, in many cases,它将导致,在许多情况下,
1998pursuing more and more intense experiences追求越来越强烈的经验
1999to try and recapitulate, recreate that big peak,尝试重新概括 重现那个大峰顶
2000which won't work.没用的
2001Or even worse, people start stacking and combining更糟的是,人们开始堆叠和结合
2002different dopamine-increasing behaviors不同多巴胺增殖行为
2003in order to try and obtain something like that initial peak为了尝试 并获得类似 初始高峰
2004when in fact, all they need to do,事实上,他们需要做的,
2005all you need to do is simply wait你只需要等一会
2006because the way that the dopamine circuitry is arranged因为多巴胺电路的安排方式
2007is that it's not just about pleasure, as you know,不只是快乐,你知道,
2008it's about motivation, desire, pursuit and pleasure.这是关于动机,欲望,追求和快乐。
2009And it also has everything to do with pain and discomfort.亦有与疼痛及烦恼俱.
2010Now, when people hear the word pain,现在 当人们听到痛苦这个词
2011they often think, oh, pain, okay,他们经常想,哦,痛苦,好吧,
2012so a physical pain or an intense emotional pain.身体疼痛或强烈的情感痛苦
2013But today we're going to talk about pain但今天我们要谈谈痛苦
2014a little bit differently.有点不一样
2015We're going to talk about the pain associated我们来谈谈痛苦
2016with the trough and dopamine that occurs和多巴胺发生
2017after a big peak in dopamine多巴胺出现大峰后
2018as a period in which pain and effort go hand in hand.作为痛苦和努力携手并进的时期。
2019And I'll return to this in a moment,我一会再谈这个
2020but I want you to just note that in your mind,但我希望你记住,在你心里,
2021kind of earmark that in your mind.那种指定 在你的脑海里。
2022Because what we're about to talk about因为我们将要谈论的
2023is how to leverage that pain and to use effort如何利用这种痛苦和努力
2024as a way to not just get out of the trough more quickly,为了不光能更快地走出水槽
2025but actually to get back to a higher level of baseline但实际上回到更高的基线水平
2026as you exit that trough.当你离开槽。
2027Meanwhile, I really want to harp on this one point同时,我真的想 坚持这一点
2028that I made a moment ago,我刚刚做的,
2029which is that after some big experience,也就是说,经过一些大的经验,
2030so it could be a vacation or a night out partying所以,这可能是一个假期或 一个晚上的聚会
2031or the birth of a new child,或新生儿,
2032all of these are well-known phenomena所有这些都是众所周知的现象
2033that lead to troughs or deficits in dopamine afterwards,导致多巴胺的槽或缺血,
2034which can cause a sort of postpartum depression.会导致产后抑郁症
2035Postpartum depression is a phrase normally used产后抑郁症是一个通常使用的词
2036to describe literally postpartum,从字面上描述产后,
2037postbirth of a child depression.婴儿抑郁症后出生
2038And that has many causes,这有很多原因,
2039not just related to dopamine baselines,不只是与多巴胺基线有关
2040although it does involve dopamine baselines,尽管它的确涉及多巴胺基线,
2041but it has hormonal aspects and other aspects as well.但它也有荷尔蒙方面和其他方面。
2042But postpartum depression is also used to describe但产后抑郁症也用来形容
2043any time that our baseline dopamine has gone down每当我们的基准多巴胺下降时
2044way, way below what it was prior to some recent peak远低于最近高峰之前的水平
2045or exciting, exhilarating win or behavior.或激动人心,令人兴奋的胜利或行为。
2046A couple of things that one can do做点什么吧
2047in order to get out of that trough more quickly.以便更快地走出水槽
2048The first one is simply to wait with the understanding第一件事就是在谅解下等待
2049that you will get out.你会出去的
2050I know that sounds overly simplistic我知道这听起来太简单了
2051and maybe a little bit brutal,也许有点残忍,
2052but I think most people don't realize this.但我认为大多数人不知道这一点。
2053They don't realize that the dopamine circuitry他们不知道多巴胺电路
2054does take time to replenish.需要时间补充。
2055And it has everything to do with restoring这和修复有关
2056both the synthesis of dopamine,多巴胺的合成,
2057as well as what's called以及所谓的
2058the readily releasable pool of dopamine.很容易再释放的多巴胺
2059So dopamine is packaged in these little spherical things所以多巴胺被包装在这些小球状的东西中
2060that we call vesicles.我们称之为冰棒。
2061Those vesicles are released from the ends of nerves.这些睾丸从神经末端释放出来.
2062So in this case, we're talking about the nerves因此,在这种情况下,我们谈论的是神经
2063发源于VTA和ccumbens核
2064and send their little wires up to the prefrontal cortex.把他们的小电线送到前额皮层
2065And that's where dopamine is released.这就是多巴胺释放的地方。
2066And that readily releasable pool of dopamine很容易重现的多巴胺池
2067takes time to replenish.需要时间补充。
2068And that can take several days in order to replenish.这可能需要几天时间来补充。
2069Just knowing that can help you through that process.只是知道这可以帮助你度过这个过程。
2070And of course, then it raises the question,当然,它又提出了问题,
2071is there anything that you can do你能做什么吗?
2072to accelerate that process?加速这一进程?
2073And indeed there is.确实有
2074And indeed, this is what I consider,这确实是我的想法,
2075not just something to get you out of a trench不只是让你走出战壕
2076of kind of lower mood and motivation,那种情绪和动机较低,
2077but actually what represents the holy grail of motivation.但其实是动机的圣体
2078Today, I'm going to talk about this pain effort process今天我要谈的是这个痛苦过程
2079as a very powerful way to get out of sticking points,作为一种非常强大的方法 走出坚固点,
2080but more importantly, to get into a mode更重要的是,进入一个模式
2081where effort and reward can actually accelerate努力和奖励实际上可以加速
2082your progress along any path to any goal.您在任何道路上的进步 任何目标。
2083And in a way that you can do it repeatedly.并以能反复行故.
2084And this is not simply taking mechanisms from biology这不仅仅是从生物学中提取机制
2085and painting names on them.在他们身上画上名字
2086Rather, this is leveraging mechanisms in biology相反,这是利用生物学机制
2087that are well-defined in the animal and human literature在动物和人类文献中定义明确
2088that have parallels to the addiction与毒瘾相近的,
2089and addiction recovery literature,和戒毒文献,
2090but that have been shown in specific circumstances但在特定情况下已表明
2091to really allow people to engage in motivational pursuits真正允许人们 参与激励性追求
2092in a variety of contexts, school, relationships,在各种背景、学校、关系、
2093work, et cetera, in an ongoing way以持续方式开展工作等
2094and in a way that never depletes以永不枯竭的方式
2095their baseline of dopamine to the point其多巴胺的基线到点
2096where they have to do a lot of extra work to get it back.在那里,他们必须做很多额外的工作 把它拿回来。
2097And in a way that allows them to be really motivated让他们真正有动力
2098in a variety of contexts in an adaptive way.在各种情况下,以适应性的方式。
2099So what we're really talking about here所以,我们真正的谈论在这里
2100is regardless of your genetics,不管你的遗传学如何
2101regardless of who your parents are,不管你父母是谁
2102which obviously you couldn't select,很明显你无法选择
2103being able to leverage your dopamine system能够利用你的多巴胺系统
2104in order to be maximally motivated when you want to be以达到最佳的动机
2105and indeed to avoid procrastination.并避免拖延。
2106I'd like to tell you about a classic experiment我想告诉你一个经典的实验
2107that I've described once before on this podcast,我以前在播客上说过
2108but frankly, this experiment is so crucial.但坦率地说,这个实验非常关键。
2109I don't think it can be described enough.我觉得这不能形容得够多了
2110This was an experiment that was done at Stanford这是斯坦福的实验
2111many years ago and involved children,许多年前 儿童也参与其中
2112but it's actually been repeated in adults.但它实际上在成年人中重复。
2113The experiment involved observing实验涉及观测
2114a classroom of young children.一个幼儿教室。
2115So these were kids about kindergarten age,这些是幼儿园时代的孩子
2116a little bit older,有点老
2117and observing which activities kids like to do观察孩子们喜欢做什么活动
2118in their free time.在他们的空闲时间。
2119So their structured time where they had to,因此,他们的结构化时间 他们必须,
2120these are little kids, so they play blocks他们是小孩子,所以他们玩块
2121or they had to sing or they had to write或者他们必须唱歌 或者他们必须写
2122or do what they could, or I suppose draw.或者做他们能做的 或者我想画画
2123They're probably not writing significant prose at that age,那时他们可能没有写大量传言
2124but then they had free time但后来他们有了空闲的时间
2125where they could do whatever they wanted.在那里他们可以做他们想要的。
2126And what the researchers did was observe the children研究人员所做的就是观察孩子们
2127who selected by their own choice to draw pictures.由自己选择绘制图片。
2128So there were some tables out with crayons and markers所以有一些桌子 蜡笔和标记
2129and paper, et cetera.和纸张,等等。
2130And there were some kids that would just naturally go有些孩子自然会去
2131to that activity every day每天参加这项活动
2132because they liked that activity.因为他们喜欢这种活动。
2133And they measured how much of the free time他们测量了空闲时间的多少
2134these children elected to use their free time drawing,这些孩子选择使用他们的空闲时间绘画,
2135doing these different art projects.做这些不同的艺术项目。
2136And then what they did was they started introducing rewards然后他们开始奖励
2137to these children.给这些孩子
2138They started putting a gold star,他们开始放金星
2139or in some cases a silver star on their pieces of artwork或有时在他们的艺术品上挂上银星
2140and telling them what a good job they did.告诉他们他们做的好事
2141And the kids really liked that.孩子们真的很喜欢
2142In fact, who wouldn't, right?事实上,谁不会呢?
2143They're not only doing an activity that they like,他们不仅在做他们喜欢的活动,
2144but they're also getting a reward for it.但他们也因此得到奖励
2145So you can probably see where this is all going.所以,你可能可以看到这一切的去向。
2146What they were doing was they were increasing他们正在做的是增加
2147the amount of dopamine that these children experience.这些儿童所经历的多巴胺量。
2148And again, in parallel experiments done with adults,同样,在与成年人同时进行的实验中,
2149if you take adults who enjoy a particular activity,如果你选择了享受某项活动的成年人,
2150you let them do activity你让他们活动
2151and then you start rewarding them for that activity,然后你开始奖励 他们的活动,
2152especially when you surprise them with a reward当你以报酬恫吓他们的时候,
2153for an activity they already like,因为他们已经喜欢的活动,
2154they report that being a much more pleasurable experience他们报告说 这是一种更愉快的经历
2155than had they just done the activity.而不是他们刚刚完成的活动。
2156Then what they did with these children然后他们对这些孩子做了什么
2157and in the experiments with adults, done later on,在成人实验中,
2158was they cease giving them the reward.难道他们不给他们报酬吗?
2159And then they observed what percentage of their free time然后,他们观察 他们的空闲时间的百分比
2160they spend doing that activity, drawing.画画
2161And what they observed was, you guessed it,他们所观察的是,你猜到的,
2162a drop in the total amount of time总时间的减少
2163that the children elected to do this activity选择从事这项活动的儿童
2164that initially they were doing quite a lot.一开始他们做了很多。
2165In other words, their total satisfaction or desire换句话说,他们完全满意或渴望
2166or motivation to engage in this activity或从事这一活动的动机
2167dropped below what it was prior to ever receiving a reward.低于它之前得到的奖励。
2168And again, this has been repeated in a variety of contexts再说一遍,这在各种情况下都重复过
2169in different populations, different cultures,在不同的人口、不同的文化、
2170different countries, men, women, boys, girls,不同国家,男人,女人,男孩,女孩,
2171lots of different backgrounds.很多不同的背景。
2172So what this tells us is everything you already know,这告诉我们的是你已经知道的一切
2173which is that reward prediction error这是奖励预测错误
2174is not just about the desire to do something不只是想要做点什么
2175and you carrying it out and it being pretty good,你执行它, 它相当不错,
2176amazing or not good, okay?厉害还是不好,好吗?
2177I always like to joke that the nervous system我一直喜欢开玩笑 神经系统
2178sort of codes things into three bins.将东西编码成三个盒子
2179You can think about this in terms of food你可以从食物的角度考虑
2180or any type of experience.或任何类型的经历。
2181It can either be yum, yes, I really like that,可以是yum, 是的,我真的很喜欢,
2182yuck, I really don't like that or meh, it's kind of so-so.讨厌,我真的不喜欢这样或meh, 它有点如此。
2183What the scenario led to where rewards were received场景导致的奖励
2184for an activity that people already liked to do一种人们已经喜欢的活动
2185and then removed was that an activity然后被移除的是 一种活动
2186that at one point was a yum becomes a meh.有一次,一个yum变成了meh。
2187And that all reflects a drop in baseline dopamine, why?这都反映了多巴胺的基线下降,为什么?
2188Because the activity that the children or adults liked因为儿童或成年人喜欢的活动
2189combined with the gold star or the monetary reward与金星或金钱奖励相结合
2190or praise that children and adults seem to like或赞扬儿童和成年人似乎喜欢
2191compounded to create a bigger peak in dopamine在多巴胺中形成更大的顶峰
2192and therefore a bigger trough in dopamine.从而在多巴胺中形成更大的槽。
2193And if you're already wondering如果你已经想知道
2194whether or not their desire to engage in that activity是否希望从事这一活动;
2195eventually came back, it did indeed.最终,它确实回来了。
2196So essentially what I described all matches precisely所以基本上我所说的所有匹配
2197with dopamine reward prediction error多巴胺奖励预测错误
2198and the fact that peaks in dopamine以及多巴胺的峰值
2199give rise to subsequent troughs in dopamine在多巴胺中产生随后的槽
2200that if one waits long enough,如果一个人等得够久
2201allow baseline levels of dopamine to return to normal.允许多巴胺的基准水平恢复正常。
2202And of course the amplitude of that dopamine peak当然多巴胺峰的振幅
2203{\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}通过多给点钱 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}所以就变了
2204or less money in different scenarios.或在不同情况下少花钱。
2205Nearly all the different derivations of the experiments实验中几乎所有不同的衍生物
2206that you could imagine that map onto你可以想象那张地图
2207the dynamics of dopamine release多巴胺释放的动态
2208that we've been talking about during this episode我们在这集里一直在谈论的
2209all played out exactly as one would have predicted都按照预言的演绎
2210based on the neural circuitry and the dynamics of dopamine.基于多巴胺的神经电路和动力学.
2211I recommend that you leverage this knowledge我建议你利用这些知识
2212to make sure that any activities that you enjoy to do,确保任何你喜欢的活动,
2213whether or not you enjoy it a little or a lot,无论你喜欢还是喜欢
2214but especially if you enjoy it a lot,但特别是如果你喜欢它,
2215that you guard and protect by making sure以便你们敬畏,
2216that you don't start layering in or attaching reward以免你们因果报应而分层,
2217or other sources of dopamine releasing behaviors或其他多巴胺释放行为来源
2218or substances to that specific behavior.或该特定行为的物质。
2219Or if you do, that you don't do it terribly often.或者如果你这样做, 你并不经常这样做。
2220Now, how often is terribly often?现在,多久是可怕的频率?
2221We'll get to that in a moment.我们马上就能搞定
2222But let me give you an example from my life但让我举个例子
2223just as an example, but you will likely have举个例子,但你很可能
2224and you'll know people that will have different examples.你会认识那些会有不同例子的人
2225I love to exercise.我喜欢锻炼
2226I know to some people this might seem foreign,我知道有些人会觉得这有点陌生
2227but I love to exercise.但我喜欢锻炼
2228I love to do resistance training.我喜欢做抵抗训练
2229I love to run.我喜欢跑步
2230I am not one of those people that doesn't like我不是那种不喜欢的人
2231the experience of exercising,锻炼经验,
2232but likes the feeling afterwards, quote unquote.但喜欢事后的感觉,引用未引用的。
2233I hear that a lot.我经常听到
2234I don't like to exercise,我不喜欢锻炼,
2235but I love the way I feel afterwards.但我喜欢之后的感觉
2236I love physical training我喜欢体能训练
2237and I love the way I feel afterwards,我喜欢我之后的感受,
2238but I mostly love the feeling during.但我喜欢这段感情
2239I don't know why I'm wired that way.我不知道为什么我被窃听。
2240I can't say that I'm somebody我不能说我是一个人
2241who likes to do hard things across the board.谁喜欢做 艰难的事情,全面。
2242There are plenty of difficult things in life that I dread生活中有很多我害怕的难事
2243or that I'm sort of meh about.或者我有点迷茫
2244But for me, hard exercise, intense exercise但对我来说,艰苦的锻炼,紧张的锻炼
2245of a particular kind, resistance training特定种类的抵抗训练
2246and running in particular, both give me a yum.跑得特别快 都给我一顿
2247Yes, I love this kind of feeling.是的,我喜欢这种感觉。
2248And yes, it persists for me quite a long while afterwards,是的,它持续了我很长一段时间之后,
2249both for sake of the way that it changes my neurochemistry,为了改变我的神经化学
2250but also my sense of satisfaction,但也让我感到满足
2251but I just simply love it.但我只是喜欢它。
2252Now, years ago, I discovered that if I drink几年前,我发现如果我喝酒
2253a cup of black coffee or an Americano一杯黑咖啡或美国咖啡
2254or a double espresso or some yerba mate,或双份咖啡 或一些yerba配,
2255that my workouts can be quite a bit more intense.我的锻炼会更激烈
2256I can run further.我可以跑远一点。
2257And then I also discovered然后我也发现
2258that if I were to take a pre-workout energy drink,如果我要吃 工作前能量饮料,
2259or I took say 300 milligrams of alpha GPC或者我说300毫克的αGPC
2260and 500 milligrams of phenol ethylamine和500毫克苯酚乙胺
2261也许还有500毫克的L -tyrosine
2262and perhaps did that alongside the caffeine和咖啡因一起做的
2263and the yerba mate, then yes, absolutely.和yerba的伴侣, 然后是的,绝对的。
2264I really liked those workouts.我真的很喜欢这些锻炼。
2265I could be like a laser in terms of focus.我可能像激光 在焦点方面。
2266I could exert even more effort, put on some music我可以更努力,放点音乐
2267and I could achieve even better performance.我还能表现得更好
2268And then I also discovered that I could export然后我发现我可以出口
2269that protocol of caffeine, yerba mate咖啡因协议 yerba队友
2270and various supplements to my cognitive work.和各种补充 我的认知工作。
2271So when I was studying or writing papers所以当我学习或写论文时
2272or writing grants or in the laboratory,或书面赠款或实验室,
2273when I was doing experiments with my hands in those days,当时我用手做实验
2274we know cutting brain tissue and staining it我们知道切除脑组织并涂污
2275and working really long hours.工作时间很长
2276And I discovered that all of those things,我发现所有这些东西,
2277all of those behaviors compounded with my love of exercise所有这些行为都与我对锻炼的热爱相加
2278and my love of doing science and gave me these big peaks我对科学的热爱 给了我这些大山峰
2279in what to me felt like even important experiences.对我来说 感觉就像重要的经验
2280They felt unlike anything else.他们感觉不像其他任何东西。
2281They were just so, so peak in their nature,他们只是如此,如此高峰 他们的性质,
2282which was great.这是伟大的。
2283And it did indeed enhance my performance.这确实提高了我的成绩。
2284However, while it did not create a dependency然而,虽然它没有造成依赖性
2285for those different substances,对于这些不同的物质,
2286caffeine supplements, et cetera,咖啡因补充剂,等等,
2287what I noticed was that in the days我所注意到的是,在白天
2288and sometimes weekends afterwards,有时周末之后,
2289even though for much of my career,尽管我大部分的职业生涯
2290I confess I've worked weekends as well,我承认我也周末工作过
2291but I would notice that I'd experienced但我会注意到我经历过
2292a real trough in energy.一个真正的能量槽。
2293I just would not feel that good.我只是不会感觉那么好。
2294And then if I kept up those behaviors consistently然后,如果我保持 这些行为一致
2295and I was consistently adding in these other,我总是在这些其他的,
2296let's just call them what they are,让我们叫他们是什么,
2297dopamine releasing or stimulating behaviors and substances多巴胺释放或刺激行为和物质
2298that my enthusiasm for physical training or running我对身体训练或跑步的热情
2299or for doing experiments actually started to diminish.或因为做实验 开始减少。
2300And this was really discouraging to me at the time这让我很沮丧
2301because I started to think, okay, maybe I'm burnt out.因为我开始想,好吧, 也许我被烧焦了。
2302Maybe I have adrenal burnout,也许我有肾上腺发烧,
2303which by the way, doesn't exist, folks.顺便说一句, 并不存在,伙计们。
2304Your adrenals don't burn out.你的肾上腺不会烧焦的
2305There is something called adrenal insufficiency syndrome.肾上腺不足症候群
2306You can over-stimulate your system你可以过度刺激你的系统
2307by way of too much adrenaline, epinephrine肾上腺素、肾上腺素
2308and norepinephrine, but that's a separate thing.和肾上腺素, 但这是另外一回事。
2309There's no such thing as adrenal burnout per se.肾上腺燃烧症本身就不存在.
2310But I didn't know that.但我不知道这一点。
2311So I thought, gosh, I'm really burnt out所以我想,天啊,我真的被烧焦了
2312when in fact it's now obvious to me what I was doing.事实上现在我明白自己在做什么了
2313I was combining too many dopamine releasing我合并了太多多巴胺释放
2314or stimulating behaviors and substances或者刺激行为和物质
2315for things that I already enjoy doing as behaviors,对于我已经喜欢的行为,
2316namely exercise and doing experiments,即锻炼和实验,
2317anything related to science actually.和科学有关的东西
2318So what this means is not to avoid taking things所以,这意味着不 避免带走的东西
2319or doing things that amplify your amount of dopamine,或做会增加你多巴胺量的事
2320but to be very cautious about how often one does that但要非常小心 经常这样做
2321and how many different dopamine stimulating behaviors有多少不同的多巴胺刺激行为
2322or compounds one stacks, especially in terms of taking或化合物一叠,特别是取
2323those things or stacking those things in and around那些东西,或者把那些东西堆在周围
2324behaviors that you already really enjoy doing.你已经很喜欢的行为
2325I was essentially just creating another version我基本上只是创造另一个版本
2326of the kids in nursery school or first grade幼儿学校或一年级学生
2327with the gold star experiment.与金星实验.
2328I was basically just doing the exact same thing.我基本上只是做了同样的事情。
2329And when I realized that, and I changed my relationship当我意识到这一点, 我改变了我的关系
2330to those compounds, I didn't eliminate them altogether,这些化合物,我没有完全消除它们,
2331but I started realizing, for instance,但我开始意识到,例如,
2332that I didn't need to double up on yerba mate我不需要加倍的yerba队友
2333and coffee every workout.和咖啡每一次锻炼。
2334Sometimes I would do one, sometimes I would do the other.有时候我会做一个, 有时我会做另一个。
2335Frankly, I always do one or the other.老实说,我总是这样
2336It's rare that I ever do any kind of physical training我很少做任何体能训练
2337without some caffeine first.没有咖啡因先。
2338And I do my physical training typically我做我的体能训练 通常
2339in the early part of the day.在早期的时候。
2340So that's fine, doesn't interfere with my sleep.所以没关系,不会妨碍我的睡眠。
2341I might do a hike without caffeine,我可能去远足 没有咖啡因,
2342but if I'm in a weight trainer, I'm going to run.但是如果我是体重教练,我要去跑步。
2343I tend to drink coffee beforehand or have yerba mate.我经常喝咖啡 或有yerba伴侣。
2344Or if I occasionally, meaning about once every third,或者,如果我偶尔,意思 大概每三分之一,
2345sometimes every other, but usually about every third workout,有时其他的, 但通常大约三分之一的锻炼,
2346I'll take 300 milligrams of alpha GPC, maybe occasionally,我拿300毫克的αGPC, 也许偶尔,
2347maybe every third or fourth workout.也许每三四次锻炼一次
2348And these are resistance workouts, mind you, not running.这些都是抵抗运动, 注意你,不是跑步。
2349我要吃500毫克的L -tyrosine
2350or more typically 500 milligrams of phenolethylamine.或更典型的500毫克苯乙胺.
2351And very, very rarely, maybe once every two or three months,而且非常,非常少,也许每两三个月一次,
2352I might stack all of those things together我可能会把这些东西堆在一起
2353prior to a workout.在锻炼之前。
2354But of course, I'm always mindful to also include workouts当然,我总是要注意 也包括锻炼
2355or runs or bouts of cognitive work.或运行或爆发 认知工作。
2356So that could be grant writing, prepping for a podcast,因此,这可能是给予写作, 准备播客,
2357et cetera, where I don't do anything prior.诸如此类,我以前不做任何事
2358Maybe just my caffeine,也许只是我的咖啡因,
2359because I have a baseline level of caffeine因为我有咖啡因的基准水平
2360that I use each day to function like many people.每天我都会像很多人一样工作
2361There's a baseline level of caffeine咖啡因的基线水平
2362that just allows us to function那只是让我们能发挥
2363if we're a perpetual user of caffeine.如果我们永远使用咖啡因
2364I talked a lot about this on the episode in caffeine.我经常在咖啡因的剧集里谈论这个
2365But the key here is be cautious.但这里的关键是谨慎的。
2366I would say be very cautious about stacking and layering我要说对堆叠和分层要小心
2367in too many dopamine peak inducing behaviors在太多的多巴胺峰 诱导行为
2368all at once on a regular basis.一次一次的定期。
2369The key point here is if you are somebody关键是如果你是某个人
2370that can engage in these intrinsically joyful activities能够参与这些内在快乐的活动
2371for you, these activities that you're really motivated to do,对你来说,这些你真正想要做的事情,
2372whether or not it's skiing or playing music无论是滑雪还是演奏音乐
2373or dancing, et cetera,或跳舞,等等,
2374without the need to layer in additional dopamine无需再分层多巴胺
2375releasing mechanisms or compounds or activities,释放机制或化合物或活动,
2376well, then I highly recommend you do that,好吧,那么我强烈建议你这样做,
2377because then you are essentially making yourself因为你根本就是在自作自受
2378one of those fortunate few幸运的少数之一
2379that does not require additional stimuli不需要额外刺激
2380and therefore can hold onto that pleasure,故你应当享受那快乐,
2381can hold onto that intrinsic pleasure and motivation可以保持内在的快乐和动机
2382to engage in these behaviors over time,随时间推移从事这些行为,
2383which frankly, there is no replacement for.坦率地说,没有替代品。
2384There is no pill or bottle or potion没有药丸、瓶子、药水
2385or motivational speech or podcast or book或鼓励演讲、播客或书
2386that can replace intrinsic motivation.这可以取代内在动机。
2387Intrinsic motivation is perhaps the holy grail内在动机或许是神圣的
2388of all human endeavors and behaviors,所有人类的努力和行为,
2389because it encompasses so much of what brought us因为它包含这么多 给我们带来的东西
2390to this point in our species evolution到我们物种进化的这一步
2391and also what brings each and every one of us以及带给我们每个人的东西
2392closer and closer to our goals.越来越接近我们的目标。
2393And if it's happening with enjoyment如果它与乐趣发生
2394without the need to layer in additional tools,不需要在额外的工具中分层,
2395well, then you have really tapped into the source.好吧,那么你真的 挖掘到源。
2396And when I say the source,当我说源头,
2397I don't mean it in any kind of mystical way.我不是在说任何神秘的事情
2398I think it's quite clear by now我觉得现在已经很清楚了
2399that when we hear about chi from Eastern medicine,当我们听到东方医学的气,
2400or we talk about motivation drive and pursuit或者我们讨论动机驱动和追求
2401in Western neurobiological languages西方神经生物学语言
2402that relates to dopamine,关于多巴胺,
2403or we hear about the source,或者我们听到消息
2404maybe in my podcast episode with the one and only也许在我的播客插曲 与唯一的
2405Rick Rubin, incredibly productive music producer,里克·鲁宾,令人难以置信的音乐制作人
2406who's just an unbelievable track record她只是令人难以置信的纪录
2407in terms of creative endeavors.在创造性的努力方面。
2408And he talks about the source.而说源头.
2409We're really talking about the same thing,我们说的是同样的事情
2410which is this set of circuits within us这就是我们内部的这组电路
2411that allow us to identify what we want从而使我们能够确定我们想要什么
2412and then lean into effort.然后倾注在努力中。
2413And then to do that in a persistent way然后坚持下去
2414that allows us to reach our goals.这使我们能够实现我们的目标。
2415And if we can do that with an intrinsic sense of pleasure,如果我们能用内在的快乐感做到这一点,
2416well, that is nothing short of magic.好吧,这简直就是魔法
2417But of course it's not magic, it's science.当然不是魔法 而是科学
2418And of course, most people are not concerned当然,大多数人都不关心
2419about trying to protect the things they already enjoy试图保护他们已经享受的东西
2420in order to make sure that they can continue以确保他们能够继续
2421to do those things and enjoy them.做那些事,享受它们。
2422Most people are thinking about how they can engage大多数人都在思考如何参与
2423and pursue things that are less than pleasureful to them,且追求他们所享受的,
2424or how they can continue to engage in motivated behaviors或如何继续从事有动机的行为
2425when the going gets tough.当事情变得艰难。
2426Or, and this is a big one,或者,这是一个很大的一个,
2427I hear this over and over again我反复听到这个
2428as a request to cover on this podcast,作为这个播客的要求,
2429how people can overcome procrastination.人们如何克服拖延。
2430What we're going to talk about now我们现在要谈的是什么
2431is how the dynamics of dopamine release是多巴胺释放的动力学
2432that you already are aware of,你们确已知道,
2433plus an additional dynamic加上额外的动态
2434that we haven't quite talked about我们还没说清楚
2435can allow you to leverage dopamine可以让你利用多巴胺
2436{\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}真的会带给你
2437to the holy grail of motivation and drive,以动机和动力的圣杯,
2438which is when effort starts to become the reward itself.当努力成为报酬的时候,
2439In other words, when friction becomes the reward.换句话说,当摩擦变成奖励时.
2440I know that sounds crazy to some of you,我知道你们中有些人听起来很疯狂
2441but when friction becomes the reward,当摩擦变成报酬的时候,
2442you can pass from an idea and a goal,你可以通过一个想法和一个目标,
2443no matter how daunting,无论多么艰巨
2444to successful completion of that goal成功实现这一目标
2445{\fn黑体\fs20\shad2\2aH82\3aH20\4aH33\fscx95\3cH592001\be1}在经历本质的
2446will feel like pleasure the entire time.将感到快乐的整个时间。
2447Now, that doesn't mean it will be bliss the entire time,现在,这并不意味着 它会是幸福的全部时间,
2448but what is very possible is to leverage the dynamics但最有可能的 是利用动态
2449of both dopamine peaks and dopamine troughs多巴胺峰和多巴胺槽
2450in order to not just maintain为了不只是维持
2451your baseline level of dopamine,您的多巴胺基线水平,
2452but to also pull yourself out of any kind of procrastination也为了摆脱任何拖延
2453or other kind of overthinking trenches very quickly或者其他那种过度思考的壕沟 很快
2454and get back into a mode of pursuit.然后回到追逐的模式
2455So how do we make effort the reward?那么,我们如何努力 奖励?
2456You may have heard about this你可能听说过这个
2457in the context of so-called growth mindset.以所谓的增长心态为背景。
2458Growth mindset is the incredible discovery增长思维是不可思议的发现
2459and research papers from my colleague,和我同事的研究论文,
2460Dr. Carol Dweck in the psychology department at Stanford.斯坦福心理学系的卡罗尔·德韦克博士.
2461And there are others such as David Yeager还有大卫·耶格
2462at the University of Texas Austin德克萨斯大学奥斯汀分校
2463who have leveraged the so-called growth mindset他们利用了所谓的增长思维
2464as a tool that young people and adults alike作为青年人和成年人的工具
2465can use in order to get better at anything.可以用来改善一切
2466And the basic contour of growth mindset以及增长思维的基本轮廓
2467{\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}就是采取那种心态 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}如果你不能做点什么
2468or if you can't do it well,或者如果你做不好的话,
2469that you can't do it or can't do it well yet.你无法做到 或不能做得好。
2470It's that word yet that's really key.是那个词,其实是关键
2471And there are a number of different tools and techniques有很多不同的工具和技术
2472that people use to adopt growth mindset,人们用来采取增长心态,
2473but it all starts with that relationship但一切都从这种关系开始
2474to not being able to do it yet.无法做到这一点。
2475Now, that all sounds pretty straightforward现在,这听起来很直接
2476when you tell yourself,当你告诉自己,
2477but when we are in a performance context,但是,当我们是在 一个表现背景,
2478when we expect ourselves to be able to motivate当我们期待自己能够激励
2479or when we expect ourselves to be able to perform或者当我们期望自己能够表演
2480and we can't, that often sets up我们不能,那常常设置
2481a downward spiral of motivation动机呈螺旋式下降
2482because we are so used to being attached因为我们习惯被附身
2483to the relationship between desire, motivation,与欲望、动机、
2484and outcomes, reward prediction error.和结果,奖励 预测错误。
2485We want something, we want that A in class,我们想要的东西,我们想要A级,
2486or we want to learn how to dance,或者我们想学习如何跳舞,
2487or we want to be able to do this physical skill或者我们想做这种体能
2488of another kind or learn a language或学习语言
2489or get the mate we desire or make the relationship work或找到我们想要的伴侣 或使关系发挥作用
2490or make the business work on and on.或使企业继续运作。
2491And then we get the outcome that we don't want然后我们得到的结果 我们不希望
2492and our confidence, for lack of a better word,和我们的信心, 由于缺乏更好的言语,
2493drops over time.时间流逝。
2494Oftentimes, that leads to situations往往导致情况
2495where we are not motivated, we are A motivated.我们没有动机,我们是有动机的。
2496It can even lead to situations它甚至会导致局势
2497where we are downright depressed.我们非常沮丧
2498There's also circumstances where people,也有一些情况,人们,
2499myself included, of course, procrastinate.我当然包括拖延
2500We know we should do something,我们知道我们应该做点什么,
2501but somehow we can't get motivated.但不知怎的,我们没有动力
2502We know that if we put in the effort, we'll get there,我们知道,如果我们投入努力, 我们会到达那里,
2503but we can't do it,但我们不能做到这一点,
2504either because we don't like the activity或者因为我们不喜欢这种活动
2505or we're just not feeling great.或者我们只是感觉不好。
2506Now, we could be quote unquote, not feeling great,现在,我们可以被引出 未引用,不感觉很好,
2507not feeling motivated没有动机
2508because our dopamine baseline is low.因为我们的多巴胺基线很低
2509And so I absolutely encourage everybody所以我绝对鼓励大家
2510to take a look at themselves来看看自己
2511anytime they're in a motivated state,只要他们处于积极状态
2512take a look at the landscape of their life,看看他们生活的风景
2513not just at that moment,不只是此时此刻
2514but in the preceding days and weeks,但在前几天和前周,
2515and ask whether or not you've been tending问问你有没有照顾过
2516to those foundational things that we talked about earlier,我们之前讨论的那些基础问题
2517whether or not you are engaging any other of the tools无论你是否使用其他工具
2518that we talked about earlier刚才我们谈的
2519to see if you can get into a motivated state.看看能不能进入一个有动机的状态
2520However, if all of those boxes are checked, you answer,但是,如果这些盒子都检查过了,你回答
2521yes, I'm doing all those things.是的,我做所有这些事情。
2522I'm just not motivated.我只是没有动机。
2523Whatever reason, I'm just procrastinating.不管什么原因 我只是在拖延时间
2524I don't know, I don't want to do it,我不知道,我不想这样做,
2525or I'm not feeling motivated.或者我感觉没有动机
2526Well, then there's a very potent set of tools那么有一套非常强大的工具
2527that you can leverage to overcome states你可以利用杠杆 克服状态
2528of lack of motivation, overcome procrastination,缺乏动力,克服拖延,
2529and indeed can help you deal with things like overthinking我的确能帮助你们应付诸如过分思维之类的事情,
2530as it relates to procrastination因为它涉及到拖延
2531and lack of motivation as well.也缺乏动力
2532So the way this works is the following.因此,这个方法是:
2533If you recall, a peak in dopamine如果你记得 多巴胺的峰值
2534is followed by a trough in dopamine.之后是多巴胺的槽。
2535That trough in dopamine is experienced as pain多巴胺的槽是痛苦的
2536or wanting or craving.或渴望或渴望。
2537That pain that I'm referring to我指的是那种痛苦
2538is actually a craving or a wanting,实际上是渴望或渴望,
2539and it's a craving or wanting for a specific state它是一个渴望或渴望 一个特定的状态
2540that you would like to achieve您希望实现
2541that is different than the one that you're in.这和你穿的不一样
2542You want to get out of that trough.你想从槽里出来
2543And as you recall from earlier in the episode,正如你早些时候回忆的那样
2544that trough is the stimulus那个槽就是刺激
2545for the ongoing release of dopamine继续释放多巴胺
2546that provides the propeller, the motivation提供螺旋桨 动力
2547to go forward and seek some goal, okay?继续前进 并寻找一些目标,好吗?
2548So when we are not motivated,所以,当我们没有动机,
2549when we are in a so-called a-motivated state,当我们处于所谓的有动机状态时,
2550or when we are procrastinating,或等待的时候,
2551or when we just sort of can't seem to get in gear,或者,当我们只是 那种不能似乎得到装备,
2552the key to getting out of that pain trough摆脱痛苦的关键
2553is one of two things.是两件事之一。
2554I already told you earlier, you can just wait.我早说过了,你可以等等
2555You can wait till your motivation comes back,你可以等到你的动机回来,
2556and a lot of people do wait.很多人都等着呢
2557In fact, they procrastinate.事实上,他们拖延。
2558They start doing other things that are less painful他们开始做其他不太痛苦的事
2559than the state that they happen to be in而不是他们碰巧处于的状态
2560when they are trying to get into gear to go work out,当他们试图进入 装备去工作,
2561because they realize not everyone wants to do that,因为他们意识到不是每个人都想这么做,
2562or to study, or to have a hard conversation,或学习, 或有一个艰难的谈话,
2563whatever it is.无论它是什么。
2564And what do they do?他们做什么的?
2565They start engaging in activities that we,他们开始从事我们,
2566and indeed they, would not consider pleasureful activities.他们必定不认为自己是愉快的。
2567They start, for instance, cleaning the house.例如,他们开始清理房子。
2568So seemingly out of nowhere,所以似乎从哪里冒出来,
2569they start engaging in these activities他们开始从事这些活动
2570that normally are not intrinsically pleasureful for them.通常对他们来说 本质上并不快乐
2571They're not highly motivated to do them.他们没有很强的动机去做
2572As a replacement for doing the very thing作为替补做这件事
2573that they quote unquote need to do, or ought to do,他们引用未引用的 需要做,或应该做,
2574and that they're procrastinating to do.和他们拖延做。
2575What they're essentially doing here他们在这里做什么
2576is a mild type of addiction replacement.是一种温和的替代成瘾类型。
2577In other words, rather than be in the painful state换句话说,不是处于痛苦的状态
2578and wait for it to pass,等待它过去,
2579they're doing things that give them他们正在做一些给他们
2580some sense of accomplishment,某种成就感,
2581ostensibly to give them the sense表面上是让他们明白
2582that they're completing things.他们正在完成一些事情。
2583And perhaps, and I don't know,也许,我不知道,
2584because I'm not in the psychology因为我不在心理学界
2585of knowing what other people are thinking,知道别人在想什么,
2586perhaps in order to generate the momentum可能是为了创造势头
2587in order to get engaged enough or motivated enough为了足够多的订婚 或足够的积极性
2588to study or work out or whatever activity it is研究或研究活动或任何活动
2589that they're trying to avoid through procrastination.他们试图通过拖延来避免。
2590Now, what's interesting about this dynamic is,现在,这个动态有趣的是,
2591first of all, it's extremely common.首先,这是极其常见的。
2592And second of all, a lot of people will use this其次,很多人会用这个
2593as a tactic so that they get very close作为一种战术 让他们非常接近
2594to the deadline to complete something,到完成某事的最后期限,
2595and then they go into a sort of pseudo panic,然后他们陷入了一种假的恐慌,
2596and then use anxiety as a way然后用焦虑作为方法
2597to leverage their mental and physical resources利用他们的身心资源
2598to complete that thing.完成这件事情。
2599How do I know the contour of this so well?我怎么会这么清楚?
2600How do I understand the inner dynamics of it?我如何理解它的内在动态?
2601Well, part of that relates to my work as a neurobiologist嗯,其中的一部分 与我的工作 作为神经生物学家
2602and reading the papers that I'll mention to you in a moment.和阅读论文 我一会儿会提到你。
2603But it also relates to the fact that I am somebody但它也涉及到我是一个人
2604who waits quite a while,他们等待了很久,
2605right up until the sort of last minute possible直到最后一分钟
2606to complete something for activities完成活动
2607that I don't want to do,我不想这样做,
2608something I've been working on my whole life我一辈子都在努力工作
2609In any case, I'm very familiar总之,我很熟悉
2610with the procrastination process.与拖延的过程。
2611So how can we overcome procrastination?那么,我们如何克服拖延?
2612Well, it turns out that there are findings原来有发现
2613from within the addiction literature从毒瘾文献
2614that turn out to be very powerful事实证明,这是非常强大的
2615towards leveraging our way out of procrastination.利用我们的方法 摆脱拖延。
2616And it has to do with this.这和这件事有关
2617You already know,你已经知道了,
2618because I've told you probably a dozen times now,因为我跟你说过十几次了
2619that the depth of the trough after a dopamine peak多巴胺峰后的槽深
2620is proportional to how high that peak was与峰峰的高度成正比
2621and how steep it was, how quickly that peak occurred.和有多陡峭, 有多快的高峰发生。
2622It turns out that not only is the depth原来不仅是深度
2623of the trough proportional to that,与该比例相当的槽,
2624but the rate at which you get out of that trough但你从槽里出来的速度
2625is proportional to how steep that trough is.与河槽的陡度成正比
2626Let me explain this for you让我给你解释一下
2627in as clear terms as I possibly can.尽可能地说清楚
2628Imagine you're in an A-motivated state.想象一下你处于A动机状态
2629You're just not feeling motivated.你只是觉得没有动机。
2630You're procrastinating.你在拖延时间
2631You may think, okay, the thing to do here is something.你可能认为,好吧, 事情在这里是做的东西。
2632I'll clean the house.我会清理房子。
2633I'll take care of some bills.我会处理一些帐单。
2634I'll do something.我会做一些事情。
2635Or I'll just wait.否则我就等着
2636Those approaches, as we talked about before,这些方法,正如我们以前谈到的,
2637generally don't work or at least don't work quickly,通常不工作或至少不快速工作,
2638or they lead you right up to the deadline或者他们把你带到最后期限之前
2639and that's the deadline that forces you to get something done那是你必须完成的最后期限
2640or you just don't get it done否则你就是不做
2641and you don't succeed in your goal.而你却不能成功实现你的目标
2642That happens a lot as well.这种事也经常发生
2643However, if you were to take that state但是,如果你要采取这种状态
2644of being unmotivated, of procrastinating,是无心的,是拖延的,
2645and actually do something that's harder做一些更难的事
2646than being in that A-motivated state,而不是在A型状态下,
2647in other words, doing something that's more effortful,换句话说,做一些更努力的事,
2648even painful, you can rebound yourself即使是痛苦,你也可以反弹
2649out of that dopamine trough much more quickly.从多巴胺槽里流出来的速度要快得多
2650So what do I mean you want to put yourself那是什么意思,你想让自己
2651in a state that's worse than or harder在比或者更难的状态下
2652than the state that you're in而不是你所处的状态
2653or do something quote unquote more painful?或者做点更痛苦的事?
2654And here I want to be very clear.我想说清楚
2655I'll say this three times,我会说三次
2656but I'm going to say it for the first time now.但我现在要第一次说
2657When I say more painful, I do not mean doing当我说更痛苦的时候 我不是说做
2658any kind of tissue damaging or psychologically damaging任何形式的组织损害或心理损害
2659behavior or anything of that sort行为或任何类似的事情
2660that's going to render you injured or not well,这会让你受伤或不舒服,
2661even in the short term.即使是短期。
2662That's not what I'm referring to, okay?我不是这个意思,好吗?
2663Let's just get that one out of the way.把那个拿开
2664What I'm referring to is the fact that, for instance,我指的是,例如,
2665if you're feeling A-motivated,如果你觉得有动机
2666but you find yourself cleaning the house但你发现自己 清理房子
2667as a way to procrastinate, you can say,作为拖延的方法,你可以说,
2668well, cleaning the house is harder收拾房子比较难
2669than sitting down and doing nothing,而不是坐视不理,
2670but actually in that moment or in those moments,但实际上在那一刻或那些时刻,
2671that's not the case or else you wouldn't be doing it.事实并非如此 否则你就不会这么做了
2672The reality is that the dopamine system works现实是多巴胺系统有效
2673according to what feels hard or easy in the moment.根据此刻的感受,
2674In other words, if you're feeling A-motivated,换句话说,如果你觉得A动机,
2675you need to do something and put yourself into a state你需要做点什么 把自己变成这样
2676that's harder than the state you're in.这比你现在的状况更难
2677So for instance, if you're sitting around所以,比如说,如果你坐在周围
2678feeling A-motivated or you find yourself tending to tasks感觉A -有动机 或者你发现自己在忙着工作
2679that are irrelevant to the goal与目标无关
2680that you really should be focused on,你真正应该专注于,
2681you need to put your body and mind你需要把身体和思想
2682into a state of discomfort quickly.进入一种不适的状态
2683And the way to do that is to either engage这样做的方式是要么参与
2684in some tangential activity,在一些短暂的活动中,
2685meaning an activity not related to your goal指与你的目标无关的活动
2686that puts your body into a very different state.让你的身体变得很不一样
2687So here again, I'll default to the obvious one,再说一遍,我还是会默认那个明显的
2688which is something like cold shower or cold immersion,这就像冷雨或冷浸,
2689which not only increases dopamine long-term不仅增加多巴胺的长期
2690or over several hours rather,或数小时以上,
2691but for most people is experienced as pain.但对于大多数人来说,这是痛苦。
2692That pain causes a rebound out of that dopamine trough这种痛苦导致多巴胺槽反弹
2693{\fn华文新魏\fs20\bord1\shad0\fsp2\3cHFF8000}比會發生的快
2694if you had just stayed in that A-motivated state如果你只是停留 在A动机状态
2695and waited for it to go away or done something等待它消失 或做一些事情
2696like cleaning up that for whatever reason喜欢清理,无论出于什么原因
2697felt like it required less friction.感觉它需要更少的摩擦。
2698When I say friction, I mean limbic friction.我说摩擦是指四肢摩擦
2699Your limbic system is always in this dialogue你的四肢系统总是在这个对话框中
2700with your forebrain and limbic friction goes two ways.你的前脑和四肢摩擦有两条路
2701Limbic friction can be you're tired摩擦会很累的
2702and you don't want to do something.你不想做点什么
2703And so you have to quote unquote, motivate to do it,所以,你必须引用不引文, 激励做到这一点,
2704energize yourself to do it.令自力为作.
2705Or limbic friction can be that you're nervous或四肢摩擦 可能是你紧张
2706and scared and anxious to do something害怕和渴望做点什么
2707and you have to calm yourself in order to lean forward要保持冷静才能向前倾斜
2708into action in order to do that thing despite the anxiety.行动起来 做这件事 尽管焦虑。
2709I realize this can be a little bit confusing as a concept.我知道这个概念可能有点混乱
2710So I want to go into a bit more detail.所以我想更详细地谈谈。
2711Let's imagine that you or somebody else想象一下你还是别人
2712does not like to exercise.不喜欢锻炼。
2713You don't want to exercise你不想锻炼
2714and you're trying to get your minimum你试图得到你的最低
2715of five days per week exercise每周5天的演习
2716and you're just not motivated to do it.而你只是没有动机这样做。
2717There are a couple of different techniques to doing this.这样做有几种不同的技术。
2718Assuming you've taken care of all the baseline stuff,假设你已经解决了所有基线问题
2719all the foundational stuff we talked about earlier我们之前讨论过的所有基础问题
2720and you're just not getting in gear你只是没有装备
2721and you find yourself checking your phone你发现自己检查你的手机
2722or maybe you're attending to some tasks.或者你正在处理一些任务
2723Obviously those things are quote unquote easier for you,很明显,这些事情是引文 难引用的你更容易,
2724meaning they cause less limbic friction意思是它们引起较少的肢体摩擦
2725than engaging in exercise.而不是锻炼。
2726The typical advice would be just exercise for one minute.典型的建议只是练习一分钟。
2727Just get one minute of exercise or five minutes只要有一分钟的锻炼或五分钟
2728and then use the successful completion然后使用成功完成
2729of that one or five minutes as a milestone作为里程碑的一到五分钟
2730that allows you to then move to the next milestone.这样你就可以进入下一个里程碑。
2731And indeed that approach can work这样做确实可行
2732and it's exactly what I'm describing here这正是我在这里描述的
2733when I say that you're in a state of lack of motivation当我说你没有动力的时候
2734or procrastination or both或拖延或两者兼有
2735and you need to put yourself into a more painful,你需要让自己更痛苦,
2736not less painful state.不减痛苦状态。
2737So what do you do?那你怎么办?
2738You push up against that friction你踩着摩擦
2739and you exercise for a short while你们暂时的锻炼,
2740and then that pops you out of that trough.那样你就会从槽里跳出来
2741That's possible, but for a lot of people,这是可能的,但对于很多人,
2742even that won't be possible即使这样也不可能
2743because they just can't get motivated因为他们就是没有动力
2744or they do that one minute or five minutes或他们这样做 1分钟或5分钟
2745and they're just like, okay, I'm still in the trough.他们只是,好吧,我还在槽里。
2746I'm not actually feeling that great.我其实没有感觉那么好。
2747In those circumstances,在这种情况下,
2748it makes sense to do something that's tangential做一些不切实际的事很合理
2749to the whole path that you're trying to pursue,走向你所追求的整个道路,
2750this goal that you're trying to pursue.这是你所追求的目标
2751That is, believe it or not,也就是说,信不信由你,
2752much worse than just being a motivated.更糟糕的不仅仅是一个动机。
2753And when I say worse, I don't mean picking some task当我说更糟糕的时候,我不是说挑一些任务
2754that normally you don't like to do,通常你不喜欢这样做,
2755but now you're willing to do.但你现在愿意这么做了
2756I mean, literally thinking about我的意思是,从字面上考虑
2757what would be worse than being in this state?还有什么比现在更糟糕的?
2758Again, without causing yourself tissue再说一遍,没有引起自己的组织
2759or psychological damage, what would be worse?或心理伤害, 会是什么更糟糕?
2760Well, cold water would be worse for many people,冷水对很多人来说会更糟
2761very cold water.非常冷的水,你觉得呢?
2762So the key is to figure out something所以关键是想个办法
2763that for lack of a better way to put it, really sucks,因为没有更好的方法说,真的很糟糕,
2764really sucks and yet is safe.真的很烂,但还是安全的。
2765And by doing that, you steepen the trough,通过这样做, 你陡峭的槽,
2766you steepen the slope of the trough,你使槽的坡坡,
2767which we know brings you back我们知道这能把你带回来
2768to your baseline level of dopamine more quickly.以更快的速度达到多巴胺的基准水平
2769Now, for some people that will be deliberate cold exposure现在,对有些人来说,这是有意的冷暴露
2770through cold shower, ice bath.穿过寒冷的淋浴 冰浴
2771And I have to tell you that if you're cringing我必须告诉你 如果你相信
2772as I say this, well, then there you go.就像我说的,好吧,然后你去那里。
2773You now have a tool that you cringe你现在有一个工具 你相信
2774even when you just think about即使你只是想着
2775and therefore represents a great tool for you.因此,这对你们来说是一个伟大的工具。
2776So if I'm procrastinating to do something所以,如果我拖延做点什么
2777I really need to do,我真的需要这样做,
2778should I just simply wait for that procrastination我应该只是等待 拖延
2779to evaporate?蒸发?
2780No, will it eventually evaporate?不,它最终会蒸发吗?
2781Maybe, will a deadline eventually surface也许,最后的最后期限会浮出水面
2782that will trigger me into an anxious or activated state那会让我陷入焦虑或激活的状态
2783that will allow me to complete what needs to be done?这将允许我完成需要完成的工作?
2784Maybe, hopefully, but better would be to get out也许,希望,但最好还是出去
2785of that a motivated state,一个有动机的状态,
2786that state of procrastination quickly.很快的拖延状态
2787And to do so, you need to leverage something that's painful.为此,你需要利用痛苦的东西。
2788So for instance, I heard a beautiful lecture recently例如,我最近听到一个美丽的演讲
2789done by Dr. Anna Lemke由安娜·莱姆克博士完成
2790at Stanford School of Medicine,在斯坦福医学院,
2791discussing dopamine and some of the things in her book讨论多巴胺和一些东西 在她的书
2792and some newer findings as well.还有一些新的发现
2793And somebody in the audience asked her the question,观众中有人问她这个问题
2794does meditation increase dopamine?冥想会增加多巴胺吗?
2795Now, earlier we talked about how non-sleep deep rest现在,早些时候,我们谈到 如何不睡觉深睡
2796and yoga nidra has been shown in the scientific literature尼陀瑜伽在科学文献中被展示
2797to increase dopamine, but I also mentioned earlier来增加多巴胺,但我之前也提到过
2798that classic forms of meditation,那经典的冥想形式,
2799whether eyes open or eyes closed,或睁开眼睛,或闭着眼睛,
2800so-called open monitoring or closed monitoring meditation,所谓公开监测或封闭监测冥想,
2801sitting there or lying there and focusing坐在那或者躺在那里 集中精神
2802does not increase dopamine levels per se.不增加多巴胺含量本身。
2803However, for most people,然而,对于大多数人来说,
2804especially people who find it hard to meditate尤其是那些难以思考的人
2805or who don't do that practice very often,或谁不经常这样做,
2806meditation is effortful.冥想是费力的。
2807Getting into meditation进入冥想
2808and staying in meditation is effortful.故你应当沉思。
2809So if you find yourself in a state of procrastination,所以如果你发现自己处于拖延状态
2810oftentimes a brief five to 10 minute meditation经常短暂的五至十分钟冥想
2811where you absolutely do not allow yourself在你绝对不允许自己
2812to do anything besides close your eyes,做任何事情,除了闭上你的眼睛,
2813focus on your breath,专心呼吸,
2814and when your mind drifts, get back to your breath,当你的头脑飘移, 回到你的呼吸,
2815is not only extremely difficult and extremely frustrating,不仅极其困难和令人沮丧,
2816unless you're a well-practiced meditator,除非你是一个训练有素的冥想家
2817but it's often difficult and frustrating但它常常是困难和沮丧的
2818not just to do, but to get into that practice,不只是做, 并且进入实践,
2819and not just to get into that practice,不仅仅是去练习,
2820but to maintain that practice但要保持这种做法
2821for that mere five to 10 minutes,只有5到10分钟
2822because it's just not a natural state for us to be in.因为它只是不是一个自然状态 我们进入。
2823We have to force ourselves.我们必须强迫自己。
2824So it is effortful.所以这是费力的。
2825In fact, it qualifies as a basically available事实上,它符合基本可用的条件
2826almost anywhere, anytime type of effortful activity几乎任何地方,任何类型的努力活动
2827that if you dislike it,如果你不喜欢它,
2828perhaps even as much as some people dislike可能和有些人一样讨厌
2829deliberate cold exposure,故意冷暴露,
2830will then perfect.就会完美无缺
2831You now have an additional tool in your kit你现在有另一个工具
2832that you can use anytime you are feeling你可以随时使用你的感觉
2833a-motivated and procrastinating.动机和拖延。
2834Now there are numerous examples I could give,现在我可以举出许多例子,
2835and hopefully there are numerous examples希望有许多例子
2836that you're thinking about.你在考虑的
2837The key is to have a short list关键是要有一个简短的列表
2838of about five different effortful,大约五种努力,
2839AKA painful activities that you can employ您可从事的AKA痛苦活动
2840anytime you're feeling a-motivated每当你觉得有动机的时候
2841or in a state of procrastination,或处于拖延状态,
2842keeping in mind that the goal is not what you accomplish记住目标不是完成
2843inside of that activity,在活动范围内,
2844although it is important that you actually engage虽然你必须实际参与
2845in that activity.在那个活动中。
2846I actually have to make myself meditate其实我必须让自己沉思
2847in that five to 10 minute bout of effortful在那5到10分钟的努力中
2848or painful activity,或有痛苦的活动,
2849but it's not about achieving an outcome.但这不是要取得结果
2850It's about forcing your body and mind这是关于强迫你的身心
2851into a deeper state of pain and discomfort.进入更深的疼痛和不适状态.
2852In other words, taking yourself from that trough换句话说,从槽里取走你自己
2853that you're already in你已经在
2854and steepening and deepening that trough,并陡峭地,
2855because in steepening and deepening that trough,因为那根茎在陡峭和深处,
2856we know that the return from that trough我们知道从河槽回来
2857to normal and even elevated levels of baseline dopamine至正常甚至更高的基准多巴胺水平
2858is going to be faster and more robust.将会更快更强壮
2859And in doing that, you will quickly find yourself这样做,你会很快发现自己
2860back into a motivated state,回到一个有动机的状态,
2861because not only does it teach you因为它不仅教你
2862that doing hard things is possible,做艰难的事情是可能的,
2863that's sort of more of a subjective cognitive learning,这更是一种主观的认知学习,
2864but it actually taps into the very neurochemical system但实际上它会进入神经化学系统
2865that allows you to then feel motivated and capable让你觉得有动力和有能力
2866to pursue the larger goal,追求更大的目标,
2867which is the thing you're really concerned about after all.这才是你真正关心的
2868So as is often the case,经常这样
2869perhaps always the case on this podcast,也许总是这个播客的情况,
2870we covered a lot of material.我们覆盖了很多材料。
2871We covered dopamine and what it is.我们覆盖了多巴胺和它是什么。
2872We talked about the circuitry我们谈过电路的事
2873and the different kinds of circuitry,和各种轮回,
2874focusing mainly on this mesocortical pathway重点主要放在中转路径上
2875that is so vitally important to motivation for any goals.这对于推动实现任何目标至关重要。
2876Talked about the relationship between peaks and troughs谈到高峰与槽之间的关系
2877and baselines and the foundational tools基准和基本工具
2878that allow us to set and maintain从而使我们能够设定和保持
2879a healthy baseline level of dopamine,多巴胺的健康基线水平,
2880as well as ways to protect that baseline level of dopamine.以及如何保护多巴胺的基线水平。
2881And we talked about how to get ourselves我们谈论如何获得我们自己
2882out of states of procrastination and a motivation和动机的状态
2883by not just waiting out those troughs and dopamine,不只是等待这些槽和多巴胺,
2884but actually making those troughs and dopamine steeper但实际上使这些槽和多巴胺更陡峭
2885by engaging in things that are effortful以勤劳的事发誓,
2886and things that we really don't want to do in those moments.以及那些我们真正不想做的事
2887Provided that those things are safe,只要这些东西安全,
2888we can get out of those dopamine troughs more quickly我们可以更快地走出多巴胺槽
2889and back to our dopamine baseline or even above baseline.回到我们的多巴胺基线 甚至超过基线
2890And we talked about what I really view我们谈了我真正看到的
2891as the holy grail of motivation,作为动机的圣杯,
2892which is to be able to learn to attach reward即能学会附加奖励
2893to the effort process itself and to do so努力进程本身,
2894by not just understanding,不光是理解,
2895but also learning to subjectively recognize也学会主观认识
2896and somatically experience release和身体体验发布
2897of these different stressful chemicals within our body.这些不同的压力 化学物质在我们体内。
2898I realized this was a lot of information我知道这是很多信息
2899and yet throughout, I've tried to highlight tools我努力强调工具
2900that you can use that range from behavioral你可以使用范围 从行为
2901to nutritional supplementation tools, cognitive tools.营养补充工具 认知工具
2902And keep in mind that all of these different segments记住,所有这些不同的部分
2903of the podcast as always are timestamps.播客总是时间戳
2904So if you feel the need to go back如果你觉得有必要回去
2905and listen to any of these in order并听其中任何一种话,
2906to get clearer understanding,为了更清楚地了解,
2907we've made that easy to do so.我们让这很容易做到这一点。
2908So simply look for the timestamps in the show note captions.所以只要在节目注释标题中寻找时间戳即可.
2909If you're learning from and or enjoying this podcast,如果你正在学习和享受这个播客,
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2927While supplements aren't necessary for everybody,虽然不是每个人都需要补充
2928many people derive tremendous benefit from them许多人从中获益匪浅,
2929for things like enhancing sleep, hormone support,比如加强睡眠 激素支持
2930focus, and many other aspects of mental health,以及精神健康的许多其他方面,
2931physical health, and performance.身体健康和表现。
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2933that we partnered with Momentous Supplements.说我们和"时刻补充"合作
2934If you'd like to learn more about the supplements如果你想多学点补充品的话
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2937拼音为O-U-S,所以limomentous.com slash Huberman. 中国新闻网.
2938If you haven't already signed up如果你还没有报名
2939for the Huberman Lab podcast Neural Network Newsletter,为休伯曼实验室播客神经网络通讯,
2940it's a monthly newsletter that provides summaries这是一份每月的通讯 提供摘要
2941of podcast episodes and toolkits.播客节目和工具包。
2942Toolkits are summaries and links to specific protocols工具包是摘要和与具体协议的链接
2943that you can use that have been discussed您可以使用已经讨论过的内容
2944on various podcast episodes.在各种播客节目。
2945We have a toolkit for sleep, for neuroplasticity,我们有一个工具箱 睡眠,神经弹性,
2946for deliberate cold exposure, and much, much more.故意冷暴露,还有更多
2947To sign up for the newsletter,要报名参加通讯,
2948which by the way is completely zero cost,顺便说一句,那是零成本,
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