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如何交谈,让所有人都立刻喜欢你|行为研究专家Vanessa

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0:01So there's five questions here, and if you answer often more than three times, you're所以这里有五个问题, 如果你回答 经常超过三次,你是
0:06probably an over-talker.可能是一个过问者。
0:07That's it.就这样
0:08And all of them, secretly, Stephen, are saying, are you curious enough?他们都暗地里说 史蒂芬 你好奇吗?
0:12Okay.摆
0:13Right, because we know that curiosity is the antidote.对,因为我们知道好奇是解药
0:15So I put this right at the end of level one, because you really can't go to level two所以我把这个放在第一层的尽头 因为你真的不能去第二级
0:18if you're talking too much.如果你说的太多了。
0:20Okay.摆
0:20You're not curious enough.你不够好奇
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1So there's five questions here, and if you answer often more than three times, you're所以这里有五个问题, 如果你回答 经常超过三次,你是
2probably an over-talker.可能是一个过问者。
3That's it.就这样
4And all of them, secretly, Stephen, are saying, are you curious enough?他们都暗地里说 史蒂芬 你好奇吗?
5Okay.摆
6Right, because we know that curiosity is the antidote.对,因为我们知道好奇是解药
7So I put this right at the end of level one, because you really can't go to level two所以我把这个放在第一层的尽头 因为你真的不能去第二级
8if you're talking too much.如果你说的太多了。
9Okay.摆
10You're not curious enough.你不够好奇
11You're not going to learn their dream.你不会去学习他们的梦想。
12So question one.所以第一个问题
13So if I say yes to three of these, then I'm probably an over-talker.所以如果我答应其中三个, 那我可能是一个过问。
14Correct.没错
15So first one is, I leave a conversation realizing I didn't know much about the other person.首先,我留下了一段对话,意识到我对另一个人不太了解。
16I'd say rarely.我说很少
17After I finish speaking, people nod politely but don't always respond.我讲完之后,人们会以礼貌点头,但并不总是回应.
18Sometimes.有时
19Oh.瓳
20I love telling long, detailed stories, especially when people are too polite to interrupt.我喜欢讲长篇,详细的故事, 特别是当人们太礼貌 无法打断。
21Do you ever tell a long, detailed story?你讲过很长很详细的故事吗?
22Only when I'm on stage and someone has paid me to.只有在我上台时 有人付钱给我
23That doesn't count.这不算
24Okay.摆
25Doesn't count.这不算
26Sometimes, I'd say, I've been told gently or not so gently that I talk a lot.有时,我会说,我被告知 轻轻或不轻轻地,我说话很多。
27Rarely.很少见
28I've never been told that.我从来没有被告知这一点。
29Number five.五号
30While I'm mid-story, I notice people glance around the room.当我是中层故事时,我注意到人们在房间里到处看.
31Sometimes.有时
32So you pass.所以你通过。
33Okay.摆
34Now, I could have told you that also, but yeah, you pass.现在,我也可以告诉你, 但是,你通过了。
35So it's really important because it might be creating conversational friction, right?所以这真的很重要,因为它可能 造成对话摩擦,对不对?
36Especially at work.特别是在工作时
37And the best muscle you can do is asking more, talking less.你所能做的最好的肌肉就是要求更多, 少说话。
38And a challenge, a very specific challenge, please do a yap challenge.一个挑战,一个非常具体的挑战, 请做一个yap挑战。
39Do you know what a yap challenge is?你知道什么是YAP挑战吗?
40Oh, yap challenge.哦,是啊挑战。
41So a yap challenge is you open up your phone camera and you teach something or share an所以,一个YAP挑战就是 你打开你的手机相机 你教的东西或分享一个
42opinion about something without notes, and you hit record.对一些没有笔记的东西的看法, 你创造了记录。
43If you go naturally, 15 or 30 seconds, you're probably good.如果你自然地去,15或30秒, 你可能很好。
44If you're hitting 45 seconds, that's the max.如果你打了45秒,这是最大。
45If you're up to a minute or two minutes, you probably talk too much.如果你需要一两分钟, 你可能会说太多。
46Hmm.是吗?
47About yourself or just about yourself?关于你自己还是仅仅关于你自己?
48About yourself.关于你自己
49That your typical answering length is longer than conversationally appropriate.你典型的回答时间长于谈话的合适时间
50To a question about you?问你的问题?
51A yap challenge could be.可能是一个YAP挑战。
52Share your opinion about veganism.分享你对素食主义的看法。
53Damn, I didn't think I could get that done in 15 seconds.该死,我没想到能在15秒内完成
54What's your answer?你的答案是什麽?
55No, not to veganism.不,不是素食主义
56Just generally.只是一般地说。
57Like if it's an idea, everything in my head is a story first.比如说,如果这是一个想法, 我脑中的一切首先是一个故事。
58So it's like.故如来.
59You know what though?你知道吗?
60Introverts can.内道者能.
61Introverts absolutely can.内向者绝对可以.
62And they'll often go too short.而且它们常常会太短。
63Hmm.是吗?
64Okay.摆
65Like for example, I'll give you a yap challenge that I was just thinking about the other day比如说,我会给你一个 雅普挑战,我刚刚想到的那天
66and we're going to do it on social media.我们要在社交媒体上做
67We'll do it together.我们一起来
68Yap challenge.雅普挑战.
69Someone recently asked my friend out by asking for her Instagram handle, not her number.最近有人问我的朋友 问她的Instagram手柄,而不是她的号码。
70Agree or disagree?同意还是不同意?
71It depends.这取决于。
72On?开?
73Her vibe.她的情绪
74What energy was she giving?她给了什么能量?
75And what was the context?情况如何?
76Was that after a two hour date?那是在约会两个小时后吗?
77Was that?是吗?
78Just meeting her on the street.就在街上见她
79Rolled up on the street.卷起来在街上。
80I think it's actually, I agree then, because it's less invasive.我认为,事实上,我同意,因为它的侵入性较小。
81It's like, I will earn your number.这就像,我会得到你的号码。
82Oh wow.哦,哇呜。
83Give me the chance to earn your number.给我一个机会 赚你的号码。
84Okay.摆
85You just convinced me.你刚刚说服了我
86That's interesting.这很有趣。
87So by the way, I think that was what?顺便说一句,我认为这是什么?
8812 seconds?12秒钟?
89Okay.摆
90Yeah, maybe.是啊,也许。
91Right?对吧?
92You're keeping it tight.你要紧紧守住
93I disagree, but that is an interesting nuance.我不同意,但这是一个有趣的细微。
94我不会把我的Instagram给你 因为我的Instagram是表演性的.
95Everyone's Instagram is performative.每个人都的Instagram是表演性的.
96If you were looking at my Instagram, it's like saying, I don't want to get to know you如果你看着我的Instagram, 就像说,我不想了解你
97through conversation.通过对话。
98I'm going to look through everything and know everything about you before I decide if I在决定我是否
99want to take you out.想带你出去
100And you take the joy out of discovery.你从发现中取出快乐
101If I'm with you and I'm like, do you have any pets?如果我和你在一起,我一样, 你有宠物吗?
102And you're like, yeah, I have a dog.你就像,是的,我有一条狗。
103Then I can say, oh, how'd you get the dog?然后我可以说,哦, 你是怎么得到的狗?
104What's the dog's name?这狗叫什么名字?
105How'd you choose that name?你怎么选择这个名字的?
106Versus, oh, look, she has a dog named Stewie.弗苏斯,看,她有一条狗叫史黛薇
107But your number is reserved for people in your personal professional life.但你的号码是留给个人职业生活中的人的
108So what you're saying, if you roll up on the street, is you're saying, let me in to your所以,你的意思是,如果你滚动 在街道上,你是说, 让我进入你的
109personal and professional environment, stranger.个人和专业环境,陌生人。
110Whereas the public environment, which is Instagram, is, I think, a much more socially appropriate而公共环境,即Instagram, 我认为,更适合社会
111place to invite oneself into.地方邀请自己进入。
112Okay, let's fight about this.好吧,我们来争这个。
113If you do that, your conversation is going to be more awkward on your first date.如果你这样做, 你的谈话会更尴尬 在你的第一次约会。
114Because?因为?
115Because you feel like you've already learned about the person.因为你觉得你已经了解这个人了
116So maybe you're discovering more of their public persona, but you've seen their kind所以,也许你发现更多的 他们的公众人格a, 但你见过他们的同类
117of friends, where they hang out, what they do on the weekends, do they hike or not?朋友,他们在哪里玩, 他们在周末做什么, 他们徒步或不?
118Do they have any pets?他们有宠物吗?
119Oh, look, there they are at Thanksgiving.看,他们在感恩节
120They have lots of siblings.他们有很多兄弟姐妹
121This is, I think, why we're having awkward first date conversations.我想这就是我们第一次约会谈话的原因
122Why first dates have gotten even worse is because you're on the first date.为什么第一次约会变得更糟 是因为你第一次约会
123You've already discovered all level one stuff that you think you know.你已经发现了所有你认为你知道的层次
124So now, even though you're having your very first conversation, you kind of have to go所以,现在,尽管你 有了你的第一次谈话, 你有点必须去
125to level two.到二级。
126It's so much harder, and it's unnatural.如此之难,亦非自然也.
127It's unnatural to know all this information that wasn't transmitted human to human, that知道这些不是人类向人类传播的信息是不正常的
128was done in a performative way.以表演方式完成的。
129And then you have to get in person, and it's harder to come up with conversation starters然后,你必须亲自到场, 很难想出 对话的启动者
130because you already know a lot.因为你已经知道很多了
131I also think what I would say is, if someone were to, I'm not single, I haven't been single我也认为我会说,如果有人要, 我不是单身,我没有单身
132in a long time, but if someone were to say, can I have your Instagram?很久以后,但如果有人要说, 我可以拥有你的Instagram?
133I would say, you know, I have one for just friends and family, but maybe you can get我会说,你知道,我有一个 只是朋友和家人, 但也许你可以得到
134there one day.有朝一日,我在这里
135You would say that?你会这么说吗?
136Yeah, I would.是的,我会的。
137If I could have.如果我可以的话。
138I'd never.我永远不会。
139Because I want you to chat me.因为我要你跟我聊天
140Right?对吧?
141我不想给你看我的Instagram
142You're going to see everything, and like, I'd rather like, let's banter.你会看到一切的,我更愿意,让我们来玩玩
143Let's chat.让我们谈谈。
144Are you funny?你开玩笑吗?
145Are you going to ask me good questions?你要问我好问题吗?
146Are you going to be a conversational narcissist?你要成为一个对话自恋者吗?
147And then ask me at dinner if it's going well over text or over the phone.然后在晚餐时问我 是否通过短信还是电话
148So you think less context results in better conversation.所以,你认为 较少的背景结果 更好的对话。
149So just having their WhatsApp or their iMessage is going to result in more interesting conversations所以只要有他们的WhatsApp 或他们的iMessage 将导致更有趣的谈话
150than me knowing that you like hiking and puppies and me being able to be like, have而不是我知道你喜欢徒步旅行 和小狗 我能够像,
151you got a labradoodle too?你有拉布拉多吗?
152Oh my God, my labradoodle is just giving birth to a couple of triplets.哦,我的上帝,我的拉布拉多 只是生了几个三胞胎。
153Yes.对
154And less performative context.而表现较少。
155Like our social feeds are not 100% real.就像我们的社会饲料不是100%真实的。
156So it's not like you were listening to me talk about something.所以,它不是像 你听我说的东西。
157It's a curated highlight reel of my life.这是我一生中最突出的一卷
158So you feel like you know me.所以你觉得你了解我
159Like people who follow me on Instagram, they might feel like they know me, but my life就像那些跟随我上Instagram的人 他们可能觉得他们了解我 但我的生活
160Instagram in the sense of I show a very small piece of what I do.从我的角度来说,Instagram 展现了我所做的事情的一小块。
161Same right with you, right?你也一样,对吧?
162And so I know I'm not single, but if I was single and someone asked for my Instagram,所以我知道我不是单身 但如果我单身 有人要我的Instagram
163even as a not like public figure, I would have no casual level one banter with them就算不是公众人物 我也不会随便跟他们玩
164that is critical, socially critical for me to understand their basics.这对于我了解他们的基本情况至关重要,社会上也至关重要。
165And so when we skip level one, we do damage to our potential connection later, we create所以,当我们跳过一级, 我们做破坏 我们潜在的连接,
166more awkwardness and more friction for ourselves.更尴尬 更摩擦我们自己。
167So my challenge for single people is stop asking for handles and ask for numbers.所以,我的挑战 单身是停止 要求手柄 并要求数字。
168Are people going to get mad at me?人们会生我的气吗?
169Well, a lot of them are meeting via dating apps now.他们很多人现在都通过约会程序见面了
170For sure.当然
171And I think that's okay.我觉得这没关系。
172But you know, a dating app is much more limited than an endless feed.但你知道,约会的应用 远比无尽的饲料有限。
173It's like, I don't know how many photos are on dating apps these days, but they're still我不知道这几天在约会应用上 有多少照片
174like, that's like the most performative.喜欢,这就像最 表演性。
175It's like, look at me at the gym.这就像,看着我在健身房。
176Look at this car that I bought.看看我买的这辆车
177But it's not forever.但不是永远。
178Like you can't go back to someone's Instagram since they were in high school, right?就像你无法回到别人的Instagram 自从他们上高中,对不对?
179Like it's, you know, it's six images or 10 images.就像,你知道,它是六幅图像或十幅图像。
180You have these pre-subscribe questions.你有这些预先订阅的问题。
181I'm actually okay with that.其实我不介意。
182I love dating apps.我喜欢约会应用程序。
183I think that actually they can really connect people very quickly, but you don't know everything我认为实际上他们可以真正连接 人非常快, 但你不知道的一切
184about you.关于你
185You don't feel like you know everything about me.你不觉得你知道我的一切。
186I feel like people on dating apps hate dating apps.我觉得人们在约会的应用 讨厌约会的应用。
187Of course.当然
188But how else are we going to meet people if we have our AirPods in all the time?但是,如果我们有 我们的AirPod的所有时间?
189You're not going to meet people if you're at the gym.如果你在健身房,你就不会和别人见面了
190We talked about this last time.我们上次谈过了
191If you have your AirPods in at the gym and someone wants to hit on you, you're not going如果你有你的AirPod 在健身房 有人想打你,你不会去
192to hear it.为了听到它。
193So we have to use dating apps.所以,我们必须使用约会应用程序。
194I think they're the only way that we'll be able to connect.我认为只有这样我们才能连接
195So I'm actually, I'm pro dating app.所以,我其实,我是专业的约会应用。
196Of course, I would love for people to approach in person, but I'm not pro not talking first.当然,我喜欢人们亲自接近, 但我不赞成先不说话。
197And I think if someone asks for your handle, you're fair to say, it's just for my friends我想如果有人问你的手柄, 你公平地说,这只是我的朋友
198and family.还有家人
199Let's try to get there.让我们试着去。
200I concede.我承认
201No, I think it makes sense.不,我觉得这有道理。
202It doesn't make sense.岂不通乎.
203Okay, we did it.好吧,我们做到了。
204It's hard to repeat.难复言.
205Okay.摆
206So this is a wonderful level, but it's reserved for your most important people.所以这是一个很棒的关卡, 但它保留给你最重要的人。
207I think a mistake that people make is they are afraid of going too deep too quickly,我认为人们犯了一个错误,就是他们害怕走得太远,太快了,
208and they're afraid of going deep in conversation because it feels scary to be vulnerable.他们害怕深入谈话 因为脆弱是可怕的
209And are they right?他们说得对吗?
210They are right.他们说得对。
211If we go too deep too quickly, especially at work, and I wrote this book with work in如果我们太过深入,特别是在工作上, 我写这本书与工作在
212mind, people are going to think you're weird.人们会觉得你很奇怪
213If we share too much too quickly, it's going to be weird.如果我们分享太快,那会很怪异。
214And there is such a thing as vulnerability regret.有一种东西是脆弱的遗憾。
215Vulnerability regret is you shared something too vulnerable and it wasn't to save space弱点的遗憾是,你分享了一些太脆弱的东西, 这不是为了拯救空间
216or it wasn't received well.或者它没有得到好评。
217And the heartache that you get from that is soul crushing.你从那里得到的心痛 是灵魂的压抑。
218If you share something too deep or you ask something too deep too quickly, you're like,如果你分享的东西太深 或者你问的东西太深 太快,你喜欢,
219why did I do it?我为什么要这么做?
220It痛.
221Does that happen to you?这发生在你身上吗?
222Or no, you don't share?还是不,你不分享?
223No, I've walked away from situations and thought, actually, maybe that wasn't the appropriate不,我已经走出了 情况和思考,实际上, 也许这不合适
224situation to share that.来分享这些
225But I've also been in situations, I immediately thought of a meeting I had two weeks ago where但我也一直处于困境, 我立刻想到一个会议 我两周前在那里
226I was interviewing someone and the first 25 minutes of the interview, they shared some我在采访某人 在采访的头25分钟 他们分享了一些
227really, really personal things about their very early childhood that I almost had to真的,真的私人的事情 关于他们的童年 我几乎不得不
228adjust myself to, you know, I thought I was going into an interview to like meet them调整自己,你知道, 我想我要去面试 喜欢见到他们
229and ask them about work stuff, but I almost felt myself pivoting away being like, oh my问他们工作的事情, 但我几乎觉得自己 支离破碎
230gosh, I have to be more of a counselor or something.天啊,我必须多做一个顾问什么的。
231And so I think that we actually have to gate level three, right?所以我认为我们真的必须进入三级 对吧?
232I think we actually have to gate.我觉得我们真的得上门了
233And it's been a little confusing culturally because I think that we are loving vulnerability这在文化上有点混乱 因为我觉得我们喜欢脆弱
234and that's really good and vulnerability and authenticity, there's a very fine line这是非常好的,脆弱和真实的, 有一个非常好的线条
235there.这里
236Like being authentic is great, but being too vulnerable too quickly is very awkward and像做真人是伟大的, 但太容易太快是非常尴尬和
237sometimes not safe.有时不安全。
238So I really share when we talk about level three, I want you to reserve it for your most所以,我真的很分享 当我们谈论第三级, 我希望你保留它 对于你最多
239important people, okay?重要人物,好吗?
240So level three is called your self narrative.所以,第三级叫做你的自我叙事。
241Your self narrative is the story you tell yourself about yourself.你的自我叙事是你对自己说的故事
242It is how you make sense of your journey and purpose in life.这就是你如何理解你的旅程和人生的目的。
243And the story you tell yourself about yourself is self creating, meaning if you have a narrative你告诉自己的故事是自我创造的 如果你有叙述的话
244of hardship and being unlucky, you are probably going to see more hardship and create more困难和不幸,你可能会看到更多的困难和创造更多
245bad luck for yourself.自己运气不好
246And they've proven that this there's actually two types of self narratives.他们已经证明这实际上有两种自我叙事.
247There's a contamination narrative and a redemption narrative.有污染叙事和赎罪叙事.
248People with a redemption narrative, they have a frame around the facts of their life of有救赎叙事的人 他们有一个框架
249no matter what they do, no matter what comes their way, they're going to overcome.无论他们做什么,不管他们走的路,他们都会克服的.
250With hard work and grit and resilience, they can overcome anything.只要努力工作、精神和韧性,他们就能克服一切。
251And what's interesting about this in our research is this narrative, it holds across their life.在我们的研究中,有趣的是 这个故事贯穿他们一生。
252Yes, they're facts of their life, but their work, their love, their parenting, they repeat是的,他们是他们生活的事实, 但是他们的工作,他们的爱, 他们的养育,他们重复
253that same redemption narrative in everything they do.同样的救赎叙事 在他们所做的一切。
254The other kind of narrative is a contamination narrative.另一种说法是污染叙述.
255People with a contamination narrative, they feel that all the hardship and all the challenge有污染叙述的人, 他们觉得所有的艰难和挑战
256and the struggle has happened to them and they can't make it through.斗争已经发生在他们身上 他们无法通过。
257They can't overcome.他们不能克服。
258That no matter how hard they've worked their grit, their strength, their resilience, they're无论他们多么努力地工作, 他们的力量,他们的韧性,他们是
259a victim of circumstance.受害者。
260They typically feel very unlucky and very out of control.他们通常感到很不幸,而且非常失控。
261And when you have that kind of narrative, it's less about the facts of your life and当你有这种叙事, 它较少关于你的生活事实和
262more about the frames of your life, how you're seeing those facts.更多关于你的生活框架, 你如何看待这些事实。
263When you have a contamination narrative or you're in a relationship with someone with当你有污染的叙述 或者你与某人的关系
264a contamination narrative, the only way that I think we can change that, because our narratives污染的叙述,我认为唯一的方法 我们可以改变这一点,因为我们的叙述
265are changeable, these are not fixed personality traits, is via conversation.这些不是固定的人格特征 而是通过对话
266So my secret hope with level three conversation is when you're in a safe relationship, when所以,我的秘密希望与三级对话是 当你在一个安全的关系, 当
267you can truly share who you are, when you feel understood, you can maybe rewrite your你可以真正分享你是谁, 当你觉得理解, 你也许可以改写你的
268narrative.说明。
269You can maybe flip from a contamination narrative the frame of how you've seen your facts into你可以从一个污染的叙述中 翻开你是如何看待事实的
270redemption.赎罪
271And that is my secret goal here.这是我的秘密目标
272So how do we do that?那么,我们如何做到这一点?
273Okay.摆
274The first thing is beginning to uncover what your narrative is and what someone else's第一件事是开始揭开你的叙述 和别人的叙述
275narrative is.叙事是。
276So the first thing we have to understand is how our brain works.因此,我们首先要了解的是我们的大脑是如何工作的。
277Our brains are storytellers.我们的大脑是讲故事的
278That's why we love story.这就是为什么我们喜欢故事。
279In level one, it was kind of a warm up, like we're telling story about our passions and在一级,它有点热闹, 就像我们在讲述 我们的激情和
280our side hustles.我们的一方 匆忙。
281We're also telling the story about ourselves all the time.我们还一直在讲述我们自己的故事。
282And so we've told a story about ourselves and there are what I call narrative hints.所以我们讲了一个关于我们自己的故事 我称之为叙事提示
283In conversation, people will leak the kind of narrative that they have.在谈话中,人们会泄露他们有的那种叙事.
284So they might say, oh, everyone always zigs and I zag, gosh, everything bad always happens所以他们可能说,哦,每个人都总是Zigs和我zag,天哪,一切坏事总是发生
285to me.对我来说。
286Oh, of course.当然
287Of course.当然
288Yet another thing.还有一件事
289If people have superlatives, always, never, they tend to be more of a contamination person.如果人们有超度, 总是,从来没有, 他们往往更是一个污染的人。
290People who are in that contamination narrative space, they tend to see things as very black在污染的叙事空间里的人 往往把事物看成非常黑色
291and white.还有白色的
292They tend to see things as permanent versus redemption.他们往往把事情看成是永久的,而不是赎罪。
293People tend to leak positive hints and they feel very lucky.人们往往泄露积极的暗示,他们感到非常幸运.
294They say, oh, good things always happen to me or there's always a silver lining.他们说,哦,好的事情总是发生在我身上 或者总是有一道光明线。
295Oh, yeah.对
296You know, just my luck.你知道,只是我的运气。
297I got it.我来
298They're saying things about how it's happening.他们正在谈论它是如何发生的。
299They're leaking their narratives.他们泄露了他们的叙述。
300Who ends up being more successful, happy and healthy?谁会更成功 更快乐更健康?
301Absolutely people with redemptive narratives.绝对有人有 红色的发号施令的叙述。
302They have found that people with redemption narratives, they live longer, they have better他们发现有救赎叙事的人 他们活得更久,他们有更好的
303immune systems, they have better connections, they feel happier.免疫系统,他们有更好的联系, 他们感觉更快乐。
304And that is because they feel they could handle whatever is thrown at them.这是因为他们觉得自己可以处理 任何向他们扔的东西。
305They have a great internal locus of control.他们有一个强大的内部控制中心。
306They feel that no matter what comes at them, they can handle it.他们觉得不管发生什么 他们都能应付
307And the good news is this is learnable, right?好消息是,这是可以学习的,对吧?
308If we begin to talk about our narratives with our children, with our partners, we can begin如果我们开始谈论我们的叙事 我们的孩子,我们的伙伴,我们可以开始
309to teach them actually, you have growth here.教他们,你在这里有成长。
310You have agency over your narrative.你有代理你的叙述。
311This internal locus of control thing is something that I learned about when I was probably 16我大概16岁时学到了这个内部控制点
312or 17 in psychology class.或者心理学课的17个
313And what does it mean and what does the study say about the importance of it?研究对它的重要性有何意义?
314So an internal locus of control means that you feel that you're in control.因此,一个内部控制中心意味着你感觉自己在控制。
315You have agency over your decisions, over what happens to you, that things can happen你有代理权决定你的决定, 你发生了什么,事情可能发生
316to you in your life, but you can decide how you interact with them.在你的生活中, 但你可以决定如何与他们互动。
317You can decide how you behave.你可以决定你的行为
318People with an external locus of control get their worth from outside sources.有外部控制中心的人从外部来源获得价值。
319They feel validated when someone else tells them they look good.当别人说他们看起来不错时,他们觉得很有效.
320They feel good when someone else tells them they're doing good.当别人告诉他们他们做得很好时,他们感觉很好.
321They're looking for external ways to feel better.他们正在寻找外部方法来感觉好些.
322They look more at, for example, vanity metrics, their likes or their follows, how many friends他们比较看,比如虚度度量, 他们喜欢或跟随, 有多少朋友
323they have, how often they're invited, are they getting compliments.他们被邀请多少次, 他们得到恭维。
324The analogy I was thinking of then is it's almost like you either think you're a bird我当时想的类比是 你几乎都认为你是鸟
325or you think you're on a roller coaster.或者你以为你在越野车上
326Tell me more.告诉我更多。
327You know, a roller coaster has a fixed track, really irrespective of what you do.过山车有固定的轨道 不管你做什么
328It's going to go up, down, left, right, spin, and you're just holding on and going with它会向上,向下,向左,向右,旋转, 你只是坚持和去
329it.这个
330Whereas a bird feels like it has the agency to go anywhere.而一只鸟觉得它有 机构去任何地方。
331No rail.没有铁路。
332Yeah.对
333And some people, I think, do think that they're on a roller coaster.一些人,我想,确实认为 他们乘坐过山车。
334Yeah.对
335On a track.在赛道上
336I mean, look, I don't want to get too deep, but if we were in a normal conversation, I我的意思是,你看,我不想太深入, 但如果我们在正常的对话,我
337would ask you about fate.会问你命运
338You know, I think there's questions that can begin to uncover someone's level three.你知道,我想有些问题 可以开始发现某人的三级。
339Do you believe in luck?你相信运气吗?
340Do you believe you're lucky?你相信自己很幸运吗?
341Do you believe in fate?你相信命运吗?
342I think if you believe in fate, you're more likely to believe that you're on a roller我认为如果你相信命运, 你更可能相信你在滚车
343coaster, that you're on a ride that is predetermined and now it's up and then it's going to go越快越好,你骑的越快越好 现在越快越好
344down and they're going to have a loop.下来,他们会有一个循环。
345So I wonder, I don't know, if someone has a high belief in faith or predetermined fate,所以我想知道,我不知道, 如果有人对信仰有很高的信念 或预先确定的命运,
346if they would feel an external locus of control and maybe that wouldn't be as good for their如果他们觉得自己是个外部的控制中心 也许那对他们来说就没什么好处了
347mental health.精神卫生。
348I wonder.不知为何?
349I've done almost 700 interviews with some of the most interesting people in the world我采访了近700个世界上最有趣的人
350and one of the things you learn, which is unexpected, is that vulnerability is the doorway而其中一件事,你学到,这是出乎意料的, 脆弱是门道
351to connection.连接。
352And after sitting here for two, three hours with a guest, I feel a deep sense of connection和一位客人一起坐了两三小时后 我感觉到一种深厚的联系感
353to them.给他们。
354And as they leave, what I get them to do is to write a question in the diary of a CEO.当他们离开时,我让他们做的 就是在CEO的日记上写一个问题。
355We've taken all of the questions from the diary of a CEO.我们从首席执行官的日记里 拿走了所有的问题
356We have put the question here on this card with the name of the person that wrote it.我们把这个问题放在这张牌上,上面写着写它的人的名字。
357So you can sit at home as I do with my fiance and my colleagues at work and other people所以,你可以坐在家里,像我做 我的未婚夫和同事 在工作和其他人
358in my life.在我的生命中,我曾经是
359Whenever we get a minute, we play the diary of a CEO conversation cards and it is incredible每当我们得到一分钟,我们玩 日记CEO谈话卡,这是不可思议的
360what happens.发生什么了?
361These are great if you're in a romantic relationship and you want to connect your partner more.如果你有浪漫的恋情 并且想把搭档联系得更紧密的话 这些都是很棒的
362These are also great if you're in a team and you want to bond your team together.这些也很棒,如果你在一个团队中, 你想把你的团队团结在一起。
363And I have to say they're also great for families that want to learn more about each other and我不得不说,对于想多了解对方的家庭来说,他们也很棒。
364that need a good excuse to spend some time in a digital world in the analog environment需要一个好借口 在数字世界中度过一些时间 在模拟环境中
365connecting human to human.连接人类和人类。
366It is remarkable what the right question at the right time can do.在适当的时间,正确的问题能够做什么是了不起的。
367Go to the diary.com and you can get these conversation cards right now.去日记.com 你可以马上拿到这些谈话卡
368So going back to this idea of these contaminators.回到这些污染者的想法。
369So we're listening for narrative hints and we can ask questions like, are you lucky?所以我们在听叙事提示 我们可以问问题 比如,你幸运吗?
370By the way, if you ask this question, it's a sneaker because it sounds so casual when顺便问一句,如果你问这个问题, 这是一个运动鞋,因为它听起来很随意,当
371you ask, are you lucky?你问,你幸运吗?
372But their answer really matters.但他们的答案真的很重要。
373Either there's three answers for, are you lucky?有没有三个答案,你幸运吗?
374One, oh yes.一个,哦,是的。
375Yes, I feel lucky.是的,我觉得很幸运。
376When I asked you this last time, you said yes.我上次问你的时候 你答应了
377Yeah, I think I can't look at, I feel like I have so much privilege in my life that I是啊,我想我不能看, 我觉得我有这么多的特权 在我的生活,我
378am lucky.运气好
379Yes, yes.对,对。
380I feel the same.我也一样
381I'm just so grateful that I get to have this super unique career.我只是非常感激 我得到了这个超级独特的职业生涯。
382So I feel lucky, you feel lucky.所以我觉得幸运,你觉得幸运。
383So yes, if someone says yes right away, that tells you a lot about them.所以,是的,如果有人马上答应, 那会告诉你很多关于他们的事。
384That means they probably have a high amount of gratitude.也就是说他们可能非常感激
385They probably have a high amount of control or agency.他们可能有很高的控制或代理。
386And they also have confidence because the quickness, the speed of their answer matters他们也有自信 因为快速 快速的回答很重要
387here.在这里。
388Then there are people who are going to go, no, I don't think I'm lucky.之后还有人会去,不,我不觉得幸运.
389Now this is a really important thing to know about them.现在,这是一件很重要的事情 了解他们。
390And I don't think you should try to change it, right?我觉得你不应该改变它,对不对?
391Like I think that that's a version of toxic positivity telling someone, oh, but you're就像我认为这是一个版本 有毒的假设告诉某人,哦, 但你是
392so lucky.这么幸运。
393Think of all the things that you should be grateful for.想想你应该感激的一切
394Usually that actually makes someone dig in.通常,这实际上使人挖掘。
395It makes them feel very misunderstood.这让他们感到非常误解。
396You're the best thing you can do if someone says they don't feel lucky is to understand如果有人说自己不走运 你就能做的最好的事就是理解
397it.这个
398Why?为什么?
399What are the forces?是什么势力?
400When did that happen?什么时候发生的?
401Did you ever feel lucky before?你以前觉得幸运吗?
402Sometimes people can flip from lucky to unlucky with a very bad circumstance.有时人们在非常糟糕的情况下会从幸运地翻转到不幸.
403And it is crucial that you understand that before you judge it.在你做出判断之前 一定要明白这一点
404So curiosity gets engaged.所以好奇心就被卷入其中了
405If someone says they're unlucky, I think that's an opportunity to really reach out and meet如果有人说自己不走运,我想这是真正接触的机会
406someone where they're at.他们所在的地方
407Because in that moment they might.因为在那一刻,他们可能。
408Are you going to agree with me?你会同意我吗?
409No, no, no.不,不,没有。
410I was just thinking about how wonderful of a question that is for when you first meet我只是在想 当你第一次见面时 这个问题有多美妙
411someone in an interview or a first date.面试或第一次约会
412I was like, maybe I should ask people in an interview, do you think you're lucky?我当时想,也许我应该 问人们在采访, 你觉得你幸运吗?
413You should.你应该。
414Because what is that revealing?因为什么是揭示?
415If they say yes, it's revealing multitudes, right?如果他们答应了,那会暴露出很多人,对吧?
416Their gratitude, their perspective on life, their internal locus of control.他们的感激,他们对生命的看法, 他们的内部控制中心。
417They're an optimist.他们是乐观主义者。
418Often not always, but often sometimes they can be realists.通常并不总是,但有时他们可以成为现实主义者。
419Okay.摆
420Right.对
421Like I am objectively lucky because I have all these things that can be realist too.就像我客观上很幸运 因为我有这些东西 也可以是现实主义的
422But man, you're going to learn a lot.但是,伙计,你会学到很多。
423The whole point of level three is predicting behavior.第三层的整个点是预测行为.
424If you know their luck, you're going to be able to predict a lot of how they are in a如果你知道他们的运气,你会 能够预测很多他们是如何在一个
425relationship, how they are as a friend, how they are going to be at work.关系,他们如何作为一个朋友, 他们将如何工作。
426Fate, I think is an interesting one to ask someone.命运,我想一个有趣的 问一个人。
427And then there's other questions that seem silly, but actually have tremendous meaning.还有其他一些问题看起来很傻, 但实际上有巨大的意义。
428And level three is all about meaning.而第三层则全为意义.
429Okay.摆
430So the third answer for lucky, thank you, is that person who is afraid to answer.所以第三个幸运的答案,谢谢你, 就是那个害怕回答的人。
431And I have asked this question of thousands of people.我问过成千上万人的问题。
432And you get this bucket of, well, kind of.你得到这桶,嗯,有点。
433Now this is very interesting because this tells you they're probably not that introspective.这很有趣,因为这告诉你 他们可能不是那么内向。
434So it's one of two things.故为二事之一.
435They actually don't know.他们实际上不知道。
436They literally have not ever thought about it.他们从来没有想过。
437And they will say to you, I've never thought about it.他们会说,我从来没有想过。
438And they're literally sitting in front of you, reanalyzing their entire life, trying他们正坐在你面前, 重新分析他们的整个生活,尝试
439to answer this question for you.为你回答这个问题。
440They've never considered it.他们从没考虑过
441So that's also helpful.所以,这也是有益的。
442That's helpful.这很有帮助
443You know, if you're in a relationship and someone's not that introspective, that's你知道,如果你在一个关系 而有人不是那么内在,这就是
444good to know.很高兴知道。
445Not good or bad, just good to know, especially if you value that, like introspection is one不好或坏,只是很好知道, 特别是如果你重视这一点, 就像内观是一个
446of my core values.我的核心价值。
447So, you know, that might not be bode well for me.所以,你知道,这对我来说可能不是好兆头。
448Or second, they don't feel safe with you yet.或第二,他们觉得你还没有安全。
449It can be a hint that you went too fast.这可能是一个提示 你走得太快。
450If someone says, I kind of, or I'm not sure, you might have jumped to level three too quickly如果有人说,我有点,或者我不确定, 你可能跳到三级太快
451and they are not ready to share or they are embarrassed about something.而且他们还没有准备好分享 或者他们感到尴尬的东西。
452They have shame or they have something in their past that they feel is very unlucky,他们有羞耻,或者他们有 东西在他们的过去 他们觉得非常不幸,
453but they don't feel ready to share it.但他们没有准备好分享它。
454Have they done studies on this, this particular question?他们研究过这个问题吗?
455I think only we have.我认为只有我们有。
456Only you have?只有你有吗?
457Richard Wiseman has done a lot of research on luck specifically.理查德·怀斯曼(Richard Wiseman)特别对运气做了很多研究.
458And he, he, there's like a luck test you can give someone.他,他,有一个像运气测试 你可以给某人。
459We did this in our, in our lab.我们在实验室里做的
460So it's an official luck test to see how lucky you think you are.所以,看你觉得自己有多幸运,这是一次正式的幸运测试.
461It's like a 10 question diagnostic and it asks all of these different variations of这就像一个10个问题诊断 它问所有这些不同的变体
462that question.这个问题。
463So it is academically studied, but I don't think what's studied, at least not yet, is所以,这是学术研究, 但我不认为什么研究 至少还没有,是
464how your answer is going to dictate your life.你的答案会决定你的生活
465Like I would love to know maybe future research in our lab is if you consider yourself very我很想知道 也许未来的研究 在我们的实验室是 如果你认为自己非常
466lucky, do you make more money?幸运的是,你赚的更多钱吗?
467Do you make less money?你赚的钱少吗?
468Is there any income?有没有收入?
469Are you older?你年纪大吗?
470Are you younger?你年轻吗?
471Are you a child of privilege or not?你是否是个特权的孩子?
472So I, I think it's coming.所以我,我觉得它来了。
473I mean, I think that's where this excitement kind of comes from.我的意思是,我想这就是这种兴奋的起源。
474At least it gets me excited as a behavior researcher.至少这让我兴奋 作为一个行为研究者。
475I was just looking at that study by Dr. Richard Wiseman.我只是在看理查德·怀斯曼博士的研究
476He discovered that people who answer, yes, I am lucky, actually generate their own good他发现,谁回答,是的,我很幸运, 实际上产生他们自己的好
477fortune by acting very, acting in very specific ways.以非常具体的方式行事
478They have lower anxiety.他们的焦虑度较低
479They have higher extraversion.他们有更高的外向。
480They tend to talk, talk to lots of people and make lots of friendships and relationships,他们往往会说话,和很多人交谈 和很多的友谊和关系,
481high openness to experience, relentless optimism.高度开放的经验, 无情的乐观。
482That's very, very interesting.这是非常,非常有趣。
483I, I have considered, I've really considered this, doing a luck workshop where all I do我,我考虑过,我真的考虑过, 做一个幸运的工作坊,我所做的一切
484in the workshop is help you harvest your own feelings of luck.在车间里帮助你收获自己的幸运感
485It is so healing.它是如此治愈。
486It is so fulfilling to feel lucky, to wake up in the day and feel lucky.感到幸运,在白天醒来,感到幸运,真是令人满足。
487It's better than gratitude, right?这比感激更好,对不对?
488Gratitude is sort of shaming in its own way.感恩是那种 羞辱自己的方式。
489I'm like kind of anti-gratitude, but feeling like you're really, really lucky is, is so我有点反感 但感觉你真的很幸运
490empowering.增强能力。
491And so I've thought about creating luck labs, like a little luck workshop where you can所以我考虑过创建幸运实验室, 就像一个小幸运车间 你可以
492come and we're going to, we're going to convince you that you're lucky because it's that good来,我们要去, 我们要说服你 你很幸运,因为它是如此好
493of an investment in your, in your feelings of happiness.投资在你的, 在你的幸福感。
494I would like to ask the audience, I'm just super interested.我想问观众,我只是超级感兴趣。
495I would like to ask all the people listening now, if they, do you guys feel lucky?我想问所有的人 现在听,如果他们, 你们觉得幸运吗?
496And I would like honest answers in the comment section.我希望在评论部分有诚实的答案。
497And don't, I know you just had to say that lucky people are going to have a better life.不要,我知道你只是 不得不说,幸运的人 会有一个更好的生活。
498Just be completely honest, just for pure research purposes.只是完全诚实, 只是为了纯粹的研究目的。
499And do you know what?你知道吗?
500I know people that don't feel lucky are going to be honest because they're going to be honest.我知道不觉得幸运的人会诚实,因为他们会诚实.
501They're going to be honest.他们会诚实的
502And they're going to tell you exactly why.他们会告诉你原因
503And they're going to get really mad at us because they're going to say that something他们会对我们生气的 因为他们会说些什么
504really bad happened to them and how dare we tell them that luck is good.我们怎么敢告诉他们运气好
505That's what's going to happen because I've heard them do it.我听到他们这么做了 一定会这样
506Can you get mad at Vanessa and not me?你能生凡妮莎的气而不是我吗?
507No, get mad at him.不,发脾气他。
508No, it's fine.没事
509You can get mad at me.你可能会生我的气
510It's fine.没事
511I have no shell.我没有壳
512But this is why I'm asking because I want to, I want to, I'm coming from one perspective但这就是我问的原因 因为我想,我想, 我从一个角度出发
513from one experience that I've had in my life and I feel like I am grateful and I've been从我一生的一次经历,我觉得我很感激,我一直
514very privileged.非常荣幸
515So I would like to understand why other people do not feel lucky in their lives.因此,我想了解为什么其他人在生活中并不感到幸运。
516And you know, I guess it would also be surprising to hear that some people have been through你知道,我猜它也会令人惊讶 听到有些人已经经历了
517objectively horrific things, but they, some of them might still feel lucky.客观上可怕的事情, 但他们,有些可能仍然觉得幸运。
518So that would be interesting as well.这样也很有趣。
519So I'll be reading the comments.所以我会读评论。
520And that is also fact versus frame.这也是事实与框架。
521Okay.摆
522Right.对
523So the way that we begin to rewrite our story, and I believe so much in self authorship,所以,我们开始重写我们的故事的方式, 我非常相信自我写作,
524right?对吧?
525Yes, there's a story you tell yourself about yourself, but you also are the author of your是的,有一个故事 你告诉自己 关于自己, 但你也是你的作者
526own life, right?自己的生活,对不对?
527You're the author of your own narrative.你是你自己叙述的作者.
528The way that we begin to take up the pen, like become the author of our own life, is我们开始拿起笔的方式 就像成为我们自己生活的作者一样
529we ask ourselves questions about why do I have that idea?我们问自己为什么有这个想法?
530What is the evidence for that idea?这个想法有什么证据?
531The facts might be there, but our frame of them is different.事实可能存在,但我们的框架不同。
532And so for example, let's take a breakup, and I can almost always find out someone's举个例子,我们分手吧 我几乎总能找到某人的
533contamination or redemption narrative if I ask them about a breakup.如果我问他们分手的事 就会被污染或赎罪
534People with contamination narratives will almost always say, the breakup nearly destroyed有污染叙述的人几乎总是会说 分手几乎被摧毁
535me.来啊
536I don't trust men anymore, I don't trust women anymore.我不再信任男人了 我不再信任女人了
537You know, it just took from me.你知道,它只是夺走了我。
538I feel like a shell of myself, and it stays that way.我觉得自己像一个贝壳, 它保持这样。
539Everyone has a period of a bad breakup time, but they never get through that.每个人都有一段糟糕的分手时间,但他们永远无法度过.
540That they feel like that, that breakup fundamentally changed them for the worse, whereas someone他们有这种感觉 分手从根本上改变了他们的处境 而有人
541with a positive redemption narrative, even if it was a horrific breakup, they'll say,带着正面的救赎叙事 即使这是可怕的分手 他们会说
542I will never do that again.我不会再这么做了
543That made me stronger.这让我更强大。
544It was horrible.这是可怕的。
545It was one of the worst times of my life, but I know now who not to choose, and I know那是我一生中最糟糕的时光 但我现在知道谁不能选择了
546who to choose.谁可以选择。
547It made me feel stronger.这让我感觉更强大。
548It's that anti-fragile piece.是那块反易碎的
549Would you give someone a second date if on the first date they turned to you, and when如果第一次约会时你愿意再约一次吗?
550you asked them the question, are you a lucky person, they went, absolutely not.你问他们,你是一个幸运的人, 他们去,绝对不是。
551I probably wouldn't.我可能不会。
552I feel like I'm going to be so mad.觉即发菩提心.
553You are so cooked.你被烧成这样
554They are going to get you.他们会抓住你的
555Get her, guys.抓住她,伙计们。
556You are so cooked.你被烧成这样
557I'm not single.我不是单身。
558You are so cooked.你被烧成这样
559It's a hypothetical.以是假设.
560It was a trap.这是一个陷阱。
561That's what it was.这就是它是什么。
562You're so mean.尔时恶人.
563You're like, look, throw Vanessa into the fire.你就像 把凡妮莎扔进火里
564Oh, don't worry.哦,不用担心。
565I got a wine bottle coming.酒瓶来了
566I was thinking.我在考虑
567No, would you?不,你会吗?
568Gosh, I'm going to ask you now.天哪,我现在要问你。
569First date.初约.
570If someone, if I was on the first date and I said, are you a lucky person, and they said如果有人,如果我第一次约会 我说,你是一个幸运的人, 他们说
571to me, absolutely not.对我来说,绝对不是。
572Okay, I'd be curious.好吧,我会好奇。
573Sure.当然
574Of course.当然
575And I want to hear what they meant.我想听听他们的意思
576I wouldn't leave.我不会离开的
577I wouldn't leave the date.我不会离开日期。
578But if they were then just like extremely pessimistic, I would probably arrive at this但是,如果他们只是 像极端悲观, 我可能到达这一点
579assumption that this is probably not going to be a match because that's not my inclination.假设这不可能是一场比赛 因为这不是我的倾向
580And it doesn't, it takes too much energy out of me.它没有,它需要我太多的精力。
581And that is also because I think this is beautiful bridge to the next concept.这也是因为我认为这是通向下一个概念的美丽桥梁。
582Once you begin to uncover these narrative hints, okay, you're talking about luck, you're一旦你开始发现这些叙事暗示, 好吧,你说的是运气,你是
583I believe, and this is more art than science, that there are five archetypes of these stories.我相信,这比科学更艺术, 这些故事有五个典型类型。
584So I have harvested hundreds, I wouldn't say thousands, hundreds of narratives.所以我已经收获了上百种, 我不会说上千种,上百种叙事。
585It's actually quite hard to ask someone what is your self narrative.其实很难问别人 你的自我陈述是什么
586It's very hard question, but there are questions that we can begin to talk about that do harvest这个问题很困难,但有些问题 我们可以开始谈论 丰收
587it.这个
588I noticed patterns.我注意到了规律
589There are the same narratives over and over again, and there are about five of them.复次有同声叙事,约五部.
590I think that we share an archetype.我认为,我们有一个典型。
591I think we do.我想我们有
592Now maybe I'm flattering myself.也许我是在自夸
593So the first archetype is the ambitious hero.因此,第一个典型的就是野心勃勃的英雄.
594And I think this is us, but you'll tell me.我想这是我们, 但你会告诉我。
595So the ambitious hero has had challenges and obstacles, but they feel that their grit and所以野心勃勃的英雄有挑战 和障碍,但他们觉得他们的精神和
596resilience have, they've been able to overcome.恢复力已经,他们已经克服。
597They struggle because they are never satisfied.他们苦苦挣扎,因为他们从来不满意。
598And what is an archetype?原型是什么?
599Oh, yeah.对
600Sorry.对不起
601I got excited.我很兴奋。
602Yeah.对
603Yes.对
604So this is not like a personality type.所以这不是个性类型。
605It's not like Myer Brigg or Enneagram.不像迈尔·布里格或恩尼格拉姆
606Those are quite like stable.这些很稳定
607This is a fluid archetype of how you're seeing your story in this moment.这是一个流畅的原型 你如何看待 你的故事在这个时刻。
608For example, I might ask you, if you had to write a memoir, what would the title of your例如,我可能会问你,如果你必须写一份回忆录, 你的标题是什么?
609memoir be?回忆录?
610And this is going to impact how I have conversations with people.这将会影响我如何与人们交谈。
611This is going to impact how you have conversations with people, how you behave interpersonally.这将影响你如何与人对话, 如何行为人际关系。
612So how you act at work.你的工作表现如何?
613Like an ambitious hero is going to act very, very differently at work than a contented像一个野心勃勃的英雄 会非常,非常不同 在工作中与满足
614pragmatist.实用论者.
615And is it going to impact who I'm attracted to platonically and romantically?它会影响我被柏拉图主义和浪漫主义吸引的人吗?
616Absolutely.当然
617It dictates your relationship patterns.这决定了你的关系模式。
618Your conversational patterns, how you converse, how you bond, how you connect.你的谈话模式,如何交融,如何联系,如何联系。
619And more importantly, since I'm so interested in work conversations, how you work, how you更重要的是,我对工作对话很感兴趣,你是如何工作的,如何工作的
620view effectiveness, how you view efficiency.查看有效性,如何看待效率。
621My founders, ambitious hero founders, are going to have the same struggles over and我的创始人,野心勃勃的英雄创始人, 将会有同样的斗争 过和
622over again.再来一次
623They're going to be very different than the content of pragmatist founder.他们将会与实用主义创始人的内容大不相同.
624So the ambitious hero, what's their sort of internal monologue?那么野心勃勃的英雄 他们内部的独白是什么?
625Their internal monologue is, I got this.他们的内部独白是, 我得到了这个。
626I can do this hustle, hustle more, more, bigger, more, bigger, bigger, more.我可以做这个花招,花更多,更多,更多,更多,更多,更多,更多。
627I can do that better.我可以做得更好
628I can do that bigger.我可以做到这一点更大的。
629Right.对
630It's like we, I get, you know, shiny object syndrome is like one of the nicer ways to这就像我们,我得到,你知道, 闪亮的物体综合征 像一个更好的方法
631talk about ambitious heroes.谈论雄心勃勃的英雄。
632You know, shiny object syndrome?闪亮的物体综合征?
633No.没有
634It's like a founder who won't stop trying new initiatives and keeps throwing new ideas这就像一个创始人,不会停止尝试 新的倡议,并不断提出新的想法
635on the table when they haven't finished their first one.当他们还没有完成第一个的时候,就放在桌子上。
636Yeah.对
637Okay.摆
638Do you have that?你有吗?
639Well, yes, but I have put systems in place to make sure that it doesn't sink the company.嗯,是的,但我已经建立了系统 确保它不会让公司沉没。
640As Jeff Bezos said, Jeff Bezos said, I've got enough ideas to sink the company and he正如杰夫·贝佐斯所说,杰夫·贝佐斯说,我有足够的想法来摧毁公司和他
641can tolerate.能够容忍。
642So that's.所以这是。
643Love it.喜欢它。
644And that's beautiful because that's self-knowledge and everything that we're talking about is这是美丽的,因为那是自我知识 而我们谈论的一切是
645self-knowledge, right?自我知识,对不对?
646If you're able to talk this through, you have self-knowledge to go to your team.如果你能通过这个来谈, 你有自我知识去你的团队。
647When I come to you with a new idea next week, say no.当我下星期给你个新点子时 就拒绝吧
648Yeah.对
649Don't let me do that.别让我这么做
650It's too much, right?太过份了吧?
651So behaviorally, if you are the ambitious hero, you know, you dream big, you can burn所以行为上,如果你是野心勃勃的英雄, 你知道,你梦想大,你可以燃烧
652out because you dream so big.出来是因为你梦到这么大
653We tend, like I tend to like work almost regulates me.我们总是喜欢工作 几乎可以调节我
654Like when I'm working, I'm like, I'm being so productive.就像我工作的时候,我很喜欢, 我是如此的生产性。
655We are helping people, help more people, help all the people, right?我们正在帮助人们,帮助更多的人,帮助所有的人,对不对?
656Like it's like it's too much.譬如太过.
657And so we can we can burn out from a productivity perspective.因此,我们可以从生产力的角度来燃烧。
658We have shiny objects and in conversation relationships, people sometimes don't always我们有闪闪发光的物体 在谈话中 人们有时不总是
659understand our drive.了解我们的驱动力。
660Like we're so driven, we get accused of hustle culture a lot and we can burn other people就像我们被驱赶一样,我们经常被指责为 剥削文化,我们可以烧别人
661out by trying to bring them with us on how fast we want to work, how long we want to让他们知道我们想要工作的速度 多久
662work.工作时
663You know, those are not necessarily bad things, but they're traits, they're behavioral traits.你知道,这些不一定是坏事, 但是它们是特质, 他们是行为特质。
664OK.摆
665And by the way, so this is number one, the ambitious hero.顺便说一句,这是头号人物,雄心勃勃的英雄。
666One way that you can kind of suss these out is asking the question, what character are一种方式是 问,什么样的角色
667you most like?你喜欢吗?
668What book, movie or TV character are you most like?你最喜欢什么书、电影或电视角色?
669Not look like, life choices, personality, core values.不像,生活选择,个性,核心价值
670And I said pursuit of happiness, which is, yeah, yeah, which is ambitious hero.我说追求幸福, 也就是,是的,是的,那是雄心勃勃的英雄。
671Yeah.对
672But why did you choose that character?但你为什么选择那个角色?
673Because he he the reason why I chose the character was because when I was 19, 18, 19 years old因为他是我选择这个角色的原因 因为我19、18、19岁的时候
674and I was literally shoplifting, food to feed myself, I watched that movie randomly and我在偷东西 吃东西养活自己 我随意看了那部电影
675I was in bed the day that day.那天我在床上睡觉
676And it really made me feel like like the journey I was on, you know, when he was in the he这真的让我感觉 就像我的旅行, 你知道,当他在他的
677was in the like disabled toilet with his kid, the toilet scene.在像残疾的厕所 与他的孩子,厕所的场景。
678And I remember like my life in shades felt a little bit like that at the moment, just,我记得我的影子生活 感觉有点像现在,只是,
679you know, kind of doing things to feed myself that would, you know, and keep the lights你知道,做一些事情 养活自己, 你知道,并保持灯光
680on and swerving these landlords because my rent was five months late and all the kind因为我的房租迟了五个月, 和所有类型的
681of games I played to try and just survive.我为了生存而玩的游戏
682And then he went on to be successful.然后他继续成功。
683So it was it gave me a lot of hope.所以它给了我很多希望。
684So he's also black.故亦为黑.
685So it was really important in that interaction that I didn't assume about that character.所以,在那种互动中,真的很重要, 我没有假设那个角色。
686I asked you why.我问你为什么
687And then you told me a story about what you saw and when you saw it.然后,你告诉我一个故事 关于你看到什么 当你看到它。
688A really critical part of this exercise is that you ask someone about the character and真正的关键部分是 你问某人 有关性格和
689then you say why, what traits, because the traits that they say next are going to tell然后你说为什么,什么特征, 因为他们说的特征 接下来将告诉
690you every single thing about that person.你每一件事 关于那个人。
691For example, I if I ask someone, you know, what what person are you most like?比如,如果我问一个人, 你知道,你最喜欢什么样的人?
692And they say, Mother Teresa, I say, oh, you know, why?他们说 特蕾莎修女 我说 为什么?
693You know, I might not agree with them.你知道,我可能不同意他们。
694Maybe I don't see that.也许我看不出来
695But whatever they say next is going to tell me a lot about how但不管他们接下来说什么 都会告诉我很多关于如何
696they view themselves, whether it's true or not.他们看待自己, 无论它是否真实。
697And this is the hardest part of level three.这是三级最难的部分。
698And it's the most inconvenient part of level three.而这是三级最不方便的部分.
699You probably won't agree.你可能不会同意的
700OK, there's a lot of times where people in my life have told me self narratives and好吧,有很多时候,在我的生活中 人们告诉我 自我叙述和
701I'm like, what?и琌或妓
702What's yours?你的怎么样?
703What character are you?你是谁?
704Just like a boy.就像一个男孩。
705OK, so I relate most with Claire Dunphy from Modern Family, especially in her entrepreneurial我和现代家庭的Claire Dunphy联系最密切 尤其是她的创业
706years.岁月
707Most people would be surprised to actually identify first as a mother, not an大多数人会惊讶的 真正识别 首先作为一个母亲,而不是一个
708entrepreneur.企业家.
709Most of my day is with my kids.我大部分时间都和孩子在一起
710I'm a little awkward.我有点尴尬。
711I'm very neurotic.我非常神经质。
712And so I resonate most with her and that ambitious working mom is sort of what I'm所以我对她最有共鸣 那个雄心勃勃的工作妈妈就是我
713struggling with constantly.不断挣扎着
714Yeah.对
715Especially as an ambitious hero, because I want to do both perfectly and I cannot.特别是作为一个野心勃勃的英雄, 因为我想做到完美而我不能。
716So, by the way, if you're having trouble with this question, this is the one way that I所以,顺便说一句,如果你有 麻烦这个问题,这是唯一的方式,我
717think AI can help.认为AI可以帮助。
718You know, I have I have my own relationship with AI, but AI can be a great brainstorm你知道,我有我自己的关系 AI,但AI可以是一个伟大的大脑风暴
719partner.搭档
720It can be a great conversational practice partner, can be a great role playing它可以是一个伟大的对话 练习伙伴,可以是一个伟大的角色扮演
721partner.搭档
722And this is actually one way that I like it.这其实是我喜欢的一种方式。
723So if you're not sure if you're like, Vanessa, I don't know.如果你不确定你是否喜欢瓦内萨,我不知道。
724I don't know what character I am.我不知道我是谁
725Go to AI and ask this.去AI问这个。
726What book, movie or TV character is most like me in the way that I treat you, especially什么书,电影或电视角色 最像我的方式,我对待你,特别是
727if you have a relationship with your AI?如果你和你的人工智能有关系?
728I am fill in the blank.我填满了空白。
729So for me, it was mom, entrepreneur, neurotic.所以对我来说,是妈妈,企业家,神经病。
730My personality is how to try to be a person.我的个性是怎样尝试成为一个人。
731My core values are what character is most similar to me.我的核心价值是什么样的角色和我最相似.
732And it will pull a bunch of characters that are those traits.它会吸引一帮人物 这些特征。
733So this is the one way that it can help you sometimes brainstorm.所以这就是它能帮助你有时脑电波的方法。
734OK, the ambitious hero.好吧,野心勃勃的英雄。
735Right.对
736We started with that.我们从那开始。
737Yeah.对
738Architect number one.建筑师一号.
739The second one is called the content.第二则名为内容.
740I called it the contented pragmatist.我称之为满足的实用主义者。
741Again, these are a little more art than science.再说一遍,这些艺术比科学要多一点。
742The contented pragmatist is somebody who likes it as it is.满足的实用主义者就是喜欢它的人
743They are quite content, very happy with where things are.他们很满意,对事物的所在非常满意。
744They don't really need to change it if it's not broken.他们真的不需要改变它 如果它没有坏。
745They are not very ambitious because they're very grounded in where they are.它们并不雄心勃勃,因为它们非常扎根于它们的位置。
746They love habit and ritual and tradition.他们喜欢习惯、仪式和传统。
747In conversation, relationally, they struggle when people push them to try harder or do在交谈中,在关系上,他们挣扎 当人们推他们更努力或做
748more because they're like, I'm good.更因为他们喜欢,我很好。
749Life is good.生活是不错的。
750Why would we change things?我们为什么要改变?
751I have two very specific people in my life who are very annoyed by me as the我生命中有两个非常特别的人 他们非常烦我
752ambitious hero because I have a new goal every month and I'm constantly like,野心勃勃的英雄,因为我每个月都有一个新的目标,我总是喜欢,
753they're like, I love smoothies or they make great granola.他们喜欢,我喜欢冰块 或者它们做大颗粒。
754And I'm like, you should bottle it up and sell it at farmer's markets.我很喜欢,你应该把它装起来, 在农民的市场出售。
755And they're like, but why?他们喜欢,但为什么?
756And I'm like, but why not?我很喜欢,但为什么不呢?
757Right.对
758So relationally, they're often seen as unambitious, but actually they're所以在关系上,他们常常被视为没有野心,但实际上他们
759just quite content.只是相当满足。
760Interesting.有意思,这很有趣
761Do you know someone like that?你认识这样的人吗?
762I do.当然
763I was just thinking also about just business generally and how when you're我只是在想一般的生意 以及你什么时候
764hiring teams or even in relationships, you can get a contented pragmatist雇用团队,甚至关系上, 你可以得到一个满足的实用主义者
765holding back an ambitious hero.挡住一个野心勃勃的英雄
766And I've often had friends come to me and say, like, I've got this big startup我经常有朋友来找我 说,像,我有一个大的启动
767idea that I want to launch, but my girlfriend and my husband is telling me to be realistic.但我的女朋友和我丈夫告诉我要现实一点
768And they tend to be more, a little bit, a little bit more fear-based.而他们往往更加,一点点,一点点的恐惧.
769It's not that they're negative, but they, they are so contented that they're这并不是说他们是消极的, 但他们,他们是如此满足 他们是如此的
770very, very hyper practical.非常非常实用
771I also think on a team, it is important to know what role will be best served by我也认为,在一个团队中,重要的是要知道什么作用将最好地通过
772this ambitious roles, growth roles, rainmaker roles, leaders who are in a这种雄心勃勃的角色、增长的角色、造雨者的角色、
773industry of change, some like fiduciary, you know, I do a lot of finance你知道,我做很多金融
774conferences and I work with a lot of folks in banking.我和很多银行业的人一起工作
775Sometimes the ambitious heroes can really be crushed in those roles because有时野心勃勃的英雄们 也会被粉碎
776there isn't a lot of fast moving growth in those companies.这些公司增长不快
777A contented pragmatist can do really well in a very stable traditional industry在一个非常稳定的传统行业里,一个受人欢迎的实用主义者可以做得很好
778with a lot of regulation because they are very happy to live in that regulation.因为他们非常乐于在条例中生活
779You might want someone might, I say might because it really depends on your company,你可能想要有人,我说也许 因为真的取决于你的公司,
780but in a corporate culture, you know, you might want a contented pragmatist但是在企业文化中,你知道, 你可能想要一个满足实用主义
781running your books.管理你的书。
782They're quite conservative.他们相当保守
783They're not going to make a big leap here, right?他们不会大跃进吧?
784And they're also, they're like, let's keep it as it is.他们也一样,让我们保持原样。
785Let's know what we're doing.令诸众生.
786Don't, don't break, don't change if it's not broken, right?不,不打破,不改变 如果它没有打破,对不对?
787So you have to think about your roles in a hiring manager.所以,你必须思考 你的角色 一个雇用经理。
788It depends on how you're, what your company is like.这取决于你怎么样,你的公司是什么样子。
789And in terms of conversation tips, are there different tips for different在谈话技巧方面 是否有不同的技巧
790archetypes and ambitious hero, they are going to get so much dopamine talking典型和野心勃勃的英雄, 他们会得到这么多多巴胺谈话
791about goals, talking about new, talking about progress.关于目标,谈论新事物,谈论进步.
792They are juiced by progress and they want to hear about progress too.他们受进步的影响,他们也想听到进步。
793So not only are they wanting to like, you know, I, when someone asked me, how所以,他们不仅想喜欢, 你知道,我, 当有人问我,如何
794are you, it takes everything in me to not share my metrics.是你吗,我每样东西都要用不着分享我的衡量标准
795Like, I know that's not socially acceptable.我知道这在社会上是无法接受的
796So I have to be like, I'm doing great.所以我必须像,我做得很好。
797The business is exploding.生意开始爆炸了
798And then I just stop, right?然后我就停下来,对不对?
799Because it would be weird if I was like, we have for 305% growth on Instagram,因为如果我喜欢,那会很奇怪, 我们在Instagram有305%的增长,
800you know, like, right.你知道,像,没错。
801Cause we love ambition.因为我们喜欢野心
802I also love ambition and others.我也喜欢野心和其他人
803Like I, when I hear about my friend's side hustle that's growing, like I'm,像我一样,当我听到我朋友的一面 正在增长,像我一样,
804that's all my texts, all my check-in texts.那是我所有的短信, 所有我的登录短信。
805I'm just thinking about you is how's the biz?我只是在想你,你好吗?
806How's the traffic?交通怎么样?
807How are the book sales?书卖得怎么样?
808How the movie sales?电影卖得怎么样?
809Like, I want to hear about growth.喜欢,我想听到 关于成长。
810A contender pragmatist, they want to talk about ritual.竞争者是实用主义者 他们想谈仪式
811They want to talk about what works.他们想谈谈什么是可行的。
812They want to savor life's pleasures.他们想要拯救生命的乐趣
813They're very good at savoring.他们很会吃东西
814And by the way, this can be a wonderful relationship sometimes, because sometimes顺便说一句,这有时会是一个美妙的关系,因为有时
815the contender pragmatist reminds the ambitious hero, enjoy it, enjoy it.竞争对手实用主义者提醒了野心勃勃的英雄,享受它,享受它.
816You've worked so hard, like just taking the view for a moment.你这么努力工作, 就像只是取景片刻。
817And so they love gratitude.所以他们喜欢感激
818They love habit, ritual routine.他们喜欢习惯, 仪式的常规。
819They love to be honored for what works.他们喜欢为工作而荣耀
820They're the ones who will make a beautiful Thanksgiving dinner and they他们将会做 一个美丽的感恩节晚餐,他们
821want to have that three hour dinner and savor it and not talk about next year想吃三个小时的晚饭,好好吃,明年不要谈了
822and not talk about goals and just savor this moment and talk about what they did而不是谈论目标 仅仅享受这一刻 并谈论他们做了什么
823last year and year before that, a little bit different.去年和之前的一年 有点不同
824Okay.摆
825This is, I think the most important one to talk about, actually.这是,我认为最重要的 一个谈论,实际上。
826I think it's the least understood of all the archetypes, which is the selfless我认为这是最不理解的 所有古老类型, 这是无私的
827helper, okay?帮手,好吗?
828This is such a clear narrative.这是这么清楚的叙述。
829I almost always can predict it within the first few minutes of conversation.我几乎总是可以预测 在谈话的前几分钟。
830And that is because selfless helpers, their entire story is about giving.这是因为无私的帮助者, 他们的整个故事是关于付出。
831Their entire reason for being is being of service.他们的全部理由都是为了服务。
832They almost always pick careers that are of service.他们几乎总是选择服务生涯。
833They almost always pick careers, teachers, coaches, trainers, nurses, doctors.他们几乎总是挑职业,教师,教练,教练,护士,医生.
834And that is because they're so ingrained that to have worth is to help.这是因为他们被束缚得如此深 值得帮助。
835And oftentimes where they can sometimes get into trouble is they don't feel有时候他们有时会惹上麻烦 因为他们感觉不到
836worthy if they are not helping.如果他们不帮忙是值得的。
837And so they help so much and there's nothing left.所以他们帮了大忙 什么都没有了
838They have compassion burnout or compassion fatigue because they are giving他们有同情心 燃烧或同情疲劳 因为他们给予
839and giving and giving and giving.以及给予和给予。
840They cannot say no.他们不能说不。
841In a relationship, they are beautiful to be in a relationship with because在感情中,他们很美丽 与关系,因为
842they are givers, right?他们是施舍者 对吧?
843They are nurturers.他们是养育者。
844They are giving their, you know, a lot of parents can flip into他们给了他们,你知道, 很多父母可以翻身
845selfless helpers once they become a parent.无私的帮助者一旦成为父母。
846I've seen this happen with both moms and dads.我亲眼看到爸爸妈妈都这样
847The moment they have a baby, they flip into selfless helper because all他们一有孩子 就变成无私的帮手
848of a sudden their purpose is there is to take care of this little person.他们的目的就是照顾这个小人物
849The problem is that they have a really hard time saying no.问题是他们很难拒绝
850That people pleases.那人们喜欢。
851Yeah.对
852They struggle with boundaries.他们与边界斗争。
853They say yes to too much and they put themselves last.他们对太多的人说"是的",而他们把自己放在最后.
854Can be both good and bad in a relationship.在恋爱中既好又坏
855And so if you're in a relationship with them, sometimes half of it is just所以如果你和他们有关系 有时候一半只是
856letting them stand up to protect themselves.让他们站起来保护自己
857It's not give too much.亦不给太多.
858And I mentioned this very briefly earlier, but I had many friends who are我之前非常简短地提到了这一点,但我有许多朋友。
859selfless helpers and they attract takers, right?无私的帮手和他们吸引 接受者,对不对?
860They attract high conflict people.它们吸引了冲突激烈的人。
861You know what I mean by high conflict?你知道我在说什么吗?
862Oh, okay.哦,还好。
863Yeah.对
864A high conflict person is Bill Eddy's work.一个冲突激烈的人就是比尔·埃迪的作品.
865He estimates that 10% of the population is a high conflict person.他估计,10%的人口是一个高冲突的人。
866A high conflict person is someone who thrives with drama.冲突激烈的人就是以戏剧为生的人。
867They create difficulty in their relationships.它们在他们的关系上制造困难.
868They almost like to have difficult conversations.他们几乎喜欢有困难的对话。
869They thrive with that kind of drama.他们以这种戏剧形式蓬勃发展。
870They see an absolutes.他们看到一个绝对数。
871So they often speak in like black or white.所以他们经常说话 像黑或白。
872They see no nuance.他们看不到细微差别。
873They weaponize emotions.他们把情绪武器化了
874These days, they often sometimes use psychology to their advantage by taking这些天,他们常常利用心理学来利用
875advantage of people and the worst high conflict people, and this is where I've人民的利益 和最糟糕的 高冲突的人,
876noticed it in my work when I was listening and reading Bill Eddy's work, I我在读比尔・艾迪的作品时注意到了
877was like, oh, they actually are enablers.他们就像,哦,他们实际上是促进因素。
878They can get other people to do their dirty work for them.他们可以让别人为他们做肮脏的工作.
879So they can sometimes put a seed in a selfless helper's ear and the因此,他们有时可以把种子 在一个无私的帮助者的耳朵和
880selfless helper will go, oh, how dare they?无私的帮助者会去, 哦,他们怎么敢去?
881And they'll go fight for you.他们会为你而战
882And so sometimes selfless helpers, they're roped into things that are not所以有时无私的帮手, 他们被绑在 事物不是
883necessarily what they should be doing because they are standing up for他们必须做什么 因为他们站在
884the person they care about.他们关心的人。
885And so if you're dealing with a selfless helper in terms of conversation.所以,如果你在处理一个无私的帮助 在谈话方面。
886Yes.对
887Sometimes they even think talking about themselves is taking.有时他们甚至认为 谈论自己是需要的。
888So you might sometimes in conversation, like you're asking them a question.所以你可能有时在谈话, 就像你问他们一个问题。
889They're like, oh no, no, enough about me.他们喜欢,哦,不,不,够了我。
890Yeah, yeah, yeah.对,对,对
891Oh, let's talk about you.哦,让我们谈谈你。
892Oh, I want to help you.我想帮你
893How can I help you?有什么事吗?
894It's so funny.这太好笑了。
895Like my friends who are selfless helpers, I cannot get them to tell me what I can像我的朋友,谁无私的帮助, 我不能让他们告诉我什么我可以
896help them with because all they want to do is check in on me.帮帮他们,因为他们想做的就是来找我
897I'm like, no, no, I really do want to hear about you.我很喜欢,不,不,我真的很想听到你。
898So sometimes they won't take the ball because they're worried it's selfish.所以有时他们不会接球,因为他们担心球是自私的.
899And so sometimes getting them to open up can be hard because they feel like所以有时让他们打开 可能很难,因为他们觉得
900their needs are not important, but their needs are very important.他们的需要并不重要,但他们的需要非常重要。
901Like they're such beautiful people.就像他们是这么漂亮的人。
902So I think in conversation, the greatest gift we can give a selfless helper is所以我想在谈话中,我们可以给一个无私的帮助者最大的礼物是
903letting them know that you're understood.让他们知道你明白了
904I value you and getting to know you is not taking from me.我珍视你 并且知道你不会夺走我
905It's giving to me.它给了我。
906I have to tell my friends, it makes me feel good to help you.我必须告诉我的朋友, 它让我感觉很好帮助你。
907It makes me feel good to hear about what's going on for you.我很高兴听到你的事
908You're actually giving to me by telling me about yourself, not taking from me.你其实是在告诉我关于你自己的事 而不是夺走我
909So we have to gift to them.所以我们必须给他们礼物。
910I think we have to be extremely conversationally generous with them.我想我们得对他们慷慨解囊
911Do you know, do you know anyone?你知道,你认识谁吗?
912Yes, I do.是的,我会的。
913Oh, lovely.哦,可爱。
914Yeah.对
915And it all, it all tracks with everything you said.这一切,所有轨迹与你说的一切。
916So in corporate, I write all these apply to work.所以在公司里,我写这些 申请工作。
917These are great.这是伟大的。
918If you have, not always, but often managers can do great things as selfless如果你有,并不总是, 但经常管理者可以做伟大的事情 作为无私
919helpers because they are so attuned to others that they are very good at帮手,因为他们很适应别人,所以很擅长
920bringing out performance, not always, but I've seen really, really amazing展现出表演,并不总是, 但我看到真的,真的很惊人
921managers who they know the ROI, they know metrics, like they're following管理者谁知道ROI, 他们知道度量衡,
922their KPIs, but they're so good at finding how does this person need to be helped?他们的KPI,但他们是如此的好 找到如何帮助这个人?
923How could this person be their best selves?这个人怎么会是他们最好的自己?
924Oh, that person has a great expert power.哦,这个人有 伟大的专家力量。
925They're so good at that, that they bring up performance in everyone.他们很擅长这个,以至于在每个人身上都出现了表演.
926But they might avoid that difficult conversation.但他们可能避免了这种困难的对话。
927These people tend to be a little bit conflict avoidant.这些人往往有点冲突避免。
928They can be conflict avoidant, but they're very good at framing everything他们可以避免冲突,但他们很擅长设计一切
929as we're in this together.就像我们在一起一样
930So yes, they can be conflict avoidant, but the really good managers who are是的,他们可以避免冲突, 但真正的好管理者谁是
931excellent conversationalists, they are able to frame bad news and hard优秀的谈话家, 他们能够编造坏消息和困难
932feedback as I want to help you.我想帮助你的反馈。
933The reason I'm giving you this feedback is because I so want you to succeed.我之所以给你这个反馈 是因为我想让你成功
934And the person on the receiving end goes, Oh, I trust you.接收端的人会说 我相信你
935I know that.我知道这一点。
936Okay.摆
937So yes, if they're not excellent conversationalists, it's true.所以,是的,如果他们不是优秀的对话家,这是真的.
938They can be avoidant, but if they learn how to be assertive, and by the way,他们可以避免,但是如果他们学会 如何自信,顺便说一句,
939learning, you know, you can be assertive, then they're tremendous in conversation学习,你知道,你可以 自信,然后他们是巨大的谈话
940because they're, people trust them.因为他们是, 人们相信他们。
941Cause they come in a good place.因为他们来的地方不错
942Okay.摆
943The creative disruptor.创意干扰器。
944So the creative disruptor, this is my most challenging archetype.因此,创造性干扰器,这是我最具有挑战性的典型。
945So I'm really going to try to talk about this archetype in a positive way.所以我真的想用积极的方式来谈谈这个典型。
946Creative disruptors do not like rules.创意干扰者不喜欢规则。
947Their entire ethos is breaking things.他们的整个气质 正在打破的东西。
948They want to disrupt.他们想破坏。
949They want to go anti norm.他们想违反常规
950They want to be counter cultural.他们想要反文化
951They're the ones who are like, I don't need a blueprint.他们就是那种人 我不需要蓝图
952And they, them and me in conversation is, is not always the best.他们,他们和我谈话时, 并不总是最好的。
953There's probably the ones in the comm comments who are like, well, this doesn't通讯评论中可能有人说...
954apply to me because of all these reasons, because they want to push, they want to由于所有这些原因,他们想要推动,他们想要
955challenge, and this is wonderful because they often are the really creative挑战,这是美妙的 因为他们往往是真正的创造力
956thinkers, right?思想家 对吧?
957They often are the ones who are thinking outside the box the most.他们常常是那些在盒子外思考最多的人。
958They're often the ones who are willing to challenge the way他们常常是那些愿意挑战道路的人
959something has always been done.总是有事情发生
960The problem is, is sometimes that can rub people the wrong way.问题是,有时会用错误的方式去抚摸人。
961And sometimes these folks can thrive over conflict in the way of, it's有时候这些人能从冲突中兴旺起来
962just, it's fun for them.只是,这是他们的乐趣。
963Like it's fun to negotiate.譬如谈得乐.
964It's fun to push.推之为乐.
965A litigators, my litigators who are watching, I find that my, my litigators一个诉讼者,我的诉讼者 谁在看, 我发现,我的,我的诉讼者
966tend to fall into this, into this category or very disruptive entrepreneurs.往往属于这一类,属于这一类或非常具有破坏性的企业家。
967I know there's ones on this show.我知道这节目里有
968I've listened to the interviews with them and I go, Oh, that's a creative我听了他们的采访,我走了,哦,这是个创意
969disruptor.干扰器。
970It's someone who they're not only building something, but they're not quite是某个人,他们不仅在造东西,他们也不完全
971an ambitious hero because they want to break things that they want to build it一个野心勃勃的英雄 因为他们想打破他们想要建造的东西
972and break it.并击破.
973They want to reinvent the entire system and they're doing it.他们想要重塑整个系统,他们正在这样做。
974You know, Edward Snowden is, is one of the examples I give in the book of like,爱德华·斯诺登是我在书中举的例子之一
975he, he wanted to change something.他,他想要改变的东西。
976And also he, he wanted to like stick it to the man.还有他,他想把它粘在男人身上
977Like he wanted to break the system that he was in.就像他想要打破他当时的系统一样
978Okay.摆
979Do you struggle with this?你为此而挣扎吗?
980Do you like this?你喜欢这个吗?
981In interviews, they, they're very interesting.在访谈中,他们非常有趣.
982They're really good in interviews.他们很擅长采访
983I actually interviewed someone the other day that was like that.那天我确实采访过这样的人
984So interesting.这么有趣。
985Because they have a contrarian view by nature.因为他们天生观点相反
986Everything they say is like deeply contrarian.他们所说的每句话都像反面的
987But I think, I think having people like that, that are challenging around, they're但我想,我觉得有这样的人, 这是挑战周围,他们是
988like default is challenge is quite, it's quite useful.就像默认是挑战 相当有用
989Yes.对
990It helps me be sort of refine my, my, my points of view.它能帮助我完善我的观点
991And they live as dream killers.他们活在做梦的杀手。
992Yeah.对
993Right.对
994They're dream killers for sure.他们肯定是梦中杀手
995It can be amazing, but can be exhausting.它可以令人惊叹,但可以是累人。
996So conversation, it just, it's good to go and prepared to know, ah, I need this.所以谈话,只是,这是很好的去 准备知道,啊,我需要这个。
997I want to get stronger.我想变得更强壮
998I want to be anti-fragile.欲为反佛.
999They'll break for you to make you stronger.他们会为了你而破坏你的力量
1000Or like, I'm a delicate flower right now.或者说 我现在是一朵微妙的花
1001I cannot do the dream killing.我不能做梦杀。
1002I'm exhausted by it.我被它疲惫不堪。
1003It's a fine line between that and like pessimism.这与悲观主义之间有细微的界限.
1004Not always, but sometimes they are pessimistic.并不总是,但有时他们悲观。
1005Not always.并不总是
1006I, we have a creative disruptor friend who, I did an Instagram post about this.我们有个有创意的破坏者朋友 我做了一篇Instagram的文章
1007And I said, you know, I have a friend who always says, I hate everything.我说,你知道,我有一个朋友 谁总是说,我恨的一切。
1008Texts.文字经.
1009I hate everything.我憎恶一切.
1010And he, Instagram knew it was him and served him the video.而他,Instagram知道是他,并且为他提供了视频.
1011And he texted me, he's like, is this me?他给我发短信,他喜欢,这是我吗?
1012And I was like, yes.我很喜欢,是的。
1013Instagram知道是他干的
1014Instagram, how dare you.英斯塔格拉姆,你胆敢这样
1015Okay.摆
1016The last one is one we've actually already touched on, which is the unlucky最后一个是我们已经碰过, 这是不幸的
1017struggler.挣扎者。
1018So this is someone with a contamination narrative and they feel that no matter所以,这是一个有 污染叙事 他们觉得,无论
1019what they've done, they are unlucky.他们所做的,他们很不幸。
1020They are struggling.他们在挣扎
1021They often feel stuck.他们常常觉得卡住了。
1022They often feel misunderstood.他们常常感到误解。
1023They often feel overlooked.他们常常感到被忽视。
1024And the problem with unlucky strugglers that the, the character you want to think还有那些不走运的挣扎者的问题 以及你想思考的角色
1025of is like George Costanza from Seinfeld, right?就像塞因费尔德的乔治·康斯坦萨 对吧
1026Like, ah, everything is bad for me.像,啊,一切都对我不好。
1027They can be hilarious, but they are tortured.他们可以搞笑,但他们被折磨。
1028They are tortured.他们受到折磨。
1029And in conversation, it's really hard for ambitious heroes to not try to convince在谈话中 野心勃勃的英雄们 很难说服他们
1030them they're not unlucky.他们不是不幸的。
1031Like my biggest challenge with my unlucky strugglers in my life is to not try to就像我一生中最大的挑战 我的不幸的挣扎者 是不要尝试
1032flip them into something that they're not, or try to convince them that they're把它们变成他们不是的东西 或者试图说服他们
1033actually lucky.其实很幸运
1034They also in conversation can be very funny.他们在谈话中也会很有趣
1035Like they can make fun of themselves.像他们可以取笑自己。
1036They're so humble.诸人恭敬.
1037They're low self-esteem.他们自尊心很低
1038Some of the best comedians are unlucky strugglers.一些最优秀的喜剧演员是不幸的挣扎者.
1039And so they're beautiful to be around, but sometimes you wish that they had more因此,他们美丽 周围,但有时你希望 他们有更多的
1040confidence in the confidence you see in them.对你所看到的信任有信心
1041They had it too.他们也有
1042If you're in a conversation with one of these people that you don't gel with, is如果你在和这些人谈话 却不和他们在一起
1043there a, I mean, you talk about it a little bit in the book, but what are the ways to书里有段话要说 但有什么办法
1044get out of a bad conversation without offending people?走出一个糟糕的谈话 没有冒犯人?
1045Oh my goodness.天呐
1046It's called a graceful exit.所谓优雅出家.
1047So there's a behavior concept, the peak end effect that we remember the first few因此,有一个行为概念, 峰末效应,我们记得前几个
1048minutes of a conversation and the last few minutes of conversation, but we tend to几分钟的谈话和最后几分钟的谈话 但我们倾向于
1049focus a lot on the first impression.专注于第一印象。
1050Peak end.峰顶端.
1051Like, like, so when you're remembering something, you remember the peak of a喜欢,喜欢,所以当你记得一些东西, 你记得高峰
1052conversation and the end of the conversation.谈话和谈话结束
1053Okay.摆
1054Yeah.对
1055But we also, of course, the first impressions are incredibly important as但我们,当然,第一印象 极为重要,因为
1056well.不错
1057We tend to over-index on the first impression.我们的第一印象是过度指数化
1058So we think a lot about our first few minutes, our opening line, maybe the所以我们想了很多 关于我们的第一个几分钟, 我们的开场线,也许
1059highlight, but we don't really think about the end, but actually that's what we重点,但我们不 真正思考结束, 但实际上,这就是我们
1060leave people with.离开别人。
1061So I have a formula.所以我有一个公式。
1062You know, I love a formula.我喜欢配方
1063This calms my anxiety.这平息了我的焦虑。
1064When I'm in a conversation, it's time to go, right?当我在谈话时,是时候走了,对不对?
1065Either, either we're not feeling it.要么我们感觉不到
1066Like we're not, we're just not clicking or like we got to go.就像我们不是,我们只是没有点击 或者像我们得走了。
1067One first is a future cue.第一个是未来的提示。
1068So it's future cue plus compliment or action.所以这是未来的提示加上赞美或行动。
1069So a future cue is when you ask about or mention something coming in the future.所以,未来的提示是 当你问 或提到未来的事情。
1070The reason for this is it's a subtle way to shift the brain into not here later.原因在于它是一个微妙的方法 将大脑转移到以后不在这里。
1071Okay.摆
1072So that's role play.这就是角色扮演。
1073Yeah, let's do it.是啊,让我们做到这一点。
1074We're at a, we're at a party.我们在开派对
1075We're having some wine and things get a little bit awkward.我们喝了点酒 事情变得有点尴尬
1076We ran out of things to say to each other.我们没有话要说
1077Do you have any fun plans coming up this weekend?你周末有什么好玩的计划吗?
1078Do you have any fun?你有乐趣吗?
1079Uh, this is wine bar across town that I'm really into.呃,这是葡萄酒酒吧 跨镇,我真的很喜欢。
1080So I'm probably just going to go there.所以我可能要去那里。
1081I think with some friends.我想与一些朋友。
1082Oh my gosh.天呐
1083Well, I hope it's lovely.嗯,我希望这是可爱的。
1084Make sure to try.确保尝试。
1085Um, I love a Chardonnay.嗯,我喜欢一个夏多奈。
1086Uh, I don't know if you like white wine, be sure to try it.呃,我不知道你是否喜欢白葡萄酒, 请试试。
1087Future cues.未来的提示。
1088So I just asked you about a future and I'm going to wish you well on it, which所以,我只是问你 关于一个未来, 我会祝你好在它,
1089already gets us into future mode.已经让我们进入未来模式。
1090And then I'm going to end on a compliment or an action.然后,我要结束一个赞美或行动。
1091It was so lovely talking to you.跟你说话真好听
1092I hope you have a great time with that wine bar.我希望你和那个酒吧玩得开心点
1093I'm going to go get some more coffee.我去拿点咖啡
1094Have you got any fun plans coming up?你有什么有趣的计划吗?
1095I have so many coming up.我有这么多即将到来。
1096My daughter's just started school.我女儿刚开始上学
1097And so we're having a celebratory Labor Day weekend this weekend.所以,我们有一个庆祝劳动节周末 这个周末。
1098What'd you love to talk about?你想谈什么?
1099I'm not sure that's it.我不确定就这样
1100That's a signature question.这是一个签名问题。
1101What have you always wanted to learn?你一直想学什么?
1102So I'm, what if they just go straight back in though?所以,我,如果他们只是去 直接回来虽然?
1103Cause that's happened to me before where I've tried to.因为这发生在我之前 我试图。
1104Okay.摆
1105This is where the, the action and the compliment that, that second piece of the行动与赞美就是在这里,第二段
1106future queue is we mentioned future and you're right, they might, they未来的排队是,我们提到未来 而你是对的,他们可能,他们
1107might keep going with it.可能会继续
1108The action and compliment is really important.行动和赞美是非常重要的。
1109So wrapping up the conversation sounds like it's been so wonderful talking to you.所以把谈话结束 听起来你说话真好
1110I'm using an exit voice.我在用出口的声音
1111Do you hear the exit voice?你听到出口的声音了吗?
1112And our tone really matters here.我们的语气在这里真的很重要。
1113So it's been so wonderful talking to you.很高兴和你聊天
1114I hope that that goes great this weekend or be sure to connect with me on LinkedIn.我希望这周末会很顺利 或者能在LinkedIn上跟我联系
1115I was so happy we were able to trade numbers.我很高兴我们能交换数字
1116So you're mentioning the action that's going to come later and it's using that所以,你提到 以后的动作 它使用
1117closing voice and then the action.关闭声音,然后行动。
1118I'm going to go grab more coffee.我去拿点咖啡
1119I'm going to go say hi to the host.我去跟主持人打个招呼
1120I'm going to run to the ladies room.我要去洗手间了
1121I'm going to let head home.我先回去了,我马上回去
1122Right.对
1123Like then they cannot, right?像那样,他们不能,对不对?
1124Like you've ended it then.就像你结束了一样
1125And you also can use nonverbal cues here.你也可以在这里使用非语言提示。
1126So the moment I take a step back, the moment I angle my body towards the door, our所以,当我退一步, 当我把身体转向门,我们
1127brain subtly sees, ah, they are literally trying to physically disengage.大脑潜伏地看到, 啊,他们实际上试图 物理分离。
1128So usually I pair those with those subtle nonverbal cues of like a slow backup and所以通常我把那些 与那些微妙的非语言提示像一个缓慢的备份,
1129I angle towards the door and remember, you can be assertive with this, the我靠着门,记住,你可以坚持这一点,
1130worst kind of last impression is a lingering awkwardness.最糟糕的最后一种印象是 持续的尴尬。
1131There is nothing worse than a, well, this has been good.没有什么比这更糟的了,嗯,这是很好的。
1132It's, it's been good for you.对你有好处
1133It's, it's been good for me.这是,它一直对我很好。
1134Well, um, so, uh, uh, those are the worst.嗯,嗯,所以,嗯,嗯, 这些是最糟糕的。
1135So be assertive with this.所以,要坚持这一点。
1136If you want to end it, if you're feeling it's the end, do it.若欲灭之,若觉灭之,即行.
1137It's been so great talking to you.很高兴跟你说话
1138I'm going to grab some more coffee.我去拿点咖啡
1139Good luck at the wine bar this weekend.祝这周末酒会好运
1140Have so much fun, right?玩得开心点,对吧?
1141Like be assertive with it or else it will linger.喜欢用它固执 否则它会停留。
1142And that is just kryptonite for charisma.那只是闪电石的魅力
1143On this point of being assertive.这一点是坚定的。
1144Oh yes.对
1145I was talking to some friends the other day about people that have aura and Riz.那天我跟一些朋友聊过 关于有气息和里兹的人
1146Oh yeah.对
1147Who has aura and Riz?谁有气息和里兹?
1148Who does?谁知道?
1149I don't know.师曰.
1150I don't really know what the words mean.我不知道这些话是什么意思
1151I kind of know what aura means, but I don't really know what Riz means.我有点明白Aura的意思 但我真的不知道Riz的意思
1152So I I'm curious, like how you define those terms and like, how does所以我好奇,就像你如何定义这些术语, 喜欢,怎么样
1153one cultivate aura and Riz?养气和里兹?
1154I think aura and Riz, the only reason this is front of mind is, is my daughter我觉得Aura和Riz, 唯一的原因是,这是前脑, 我女儿
1155asked me, she heard one of my YouTube videos and she said, what is charisma?问我,她听到我的一个YouTube视频 她说,什么是魅力?
1156She asked me that and I was like, Ooh, like she's eight.她问我,我就像,哦,像她8岁。
1157They said charisma or Riz or aura is someone that you really want to be around.他们说,魅力或Riz或Aura 是一个你真正想要身边的人。
1158It's when they walk into a room, you want to go over and talk to them.就是他们走进房间的时候 你想过去和他们谈谈
1159You want to sit near them.你想坐在他们附近。
1160You want to listen to them.你想听他们的话
1161You want to work with them.你想和他们合作
1162You want to play with them.你想和他们玩
1163And I said, do you know anyone like that?我说,你认识这样的人吗?
1164And she goes, Oh yes.她走了,对了。
1165And she named so interesting.她命名这么有趣。
1166She named two kids in her class that I had already identified as very charismatic.她给班里的两个孩子取了名字 我已经确认他们很有魅力
1167Like I knew, I in my mind, I knew who the charismatic kids were in her class.就像我知道的,在我脑海里, 我知道谁是迷人的孩子 在她的课堂上。
1168I had, I had popped them, right?我有,我已经弹了,对不对?
1169I saw them.我看见了
1170They were the kids that you really wanted to be around.他们是你真正想要的孩子们。
1171They have this aura about them and she named those exact two kids.他们有这种气息 关于他们,她命名 确切的两个孩子。
1172So I think that that definition works.所以我认为这个定义是可行的。
1173It's someone that we are drawn to verbally, physically.我们被从口头上,身体上吸引
1174I think also some of it is can be physical and there's something我觉得有些也是物理的,有东西
1175hormonal there as well, but it's someone we're drawn to.那里还有荷尔蒙, 但我们被吸引到一个人。
1176So based on the 20 years of research you've done, if you were trying to teach所以根据你20年的研究 如果你想要教书
1177me to have aura and Riz, what are like the basics?我有一个气和里兹, 什么是基础是什么?
1178Be really easy to talk to.很容易说话
1179Okay.摆
1180Right.对
1181So the point of level one is to put someone at ease.因此,第一层的要点是让某人放松.
1182We like to be people around people who are one clearly signaling.我们喜欢成为周围的人 一个明显的信号。
1183We don't like people who are mute with their body language.我们不喜欢用身体语言变哑的人
1184We don't like people who under signal.我们不喜欢有信号的人
1185We like people who clearly like us, right?我们喜欢明显喜欢我们的人 对吧?
1186So we have to be very allowed with our liking.因此,我们必须非常允许 我们喜欢。
1187So saying things like, it's always so fun talking to you or you always have the所以说,事情一样, 它总是那么有趣 跟你说话或者你总是有
1188best stories.最好的故事。
1189Oh, you always make me laugh.哦,你总是让我笑。
1190I love when you're put on my team.我喜欢你加入我的团队
1191So clearly signaling like and verbally, I think we, there's something called signal所以清晰的信号 类似和口头的, 我认为,我们, 有东西叫做信号
1192amplification bias, which is this bias that we have that we think we're being放大偏执,这就是这种偏执,我们有 我们认为我们正在
1193really obvious with our cues, but we are not in fact being obvious.我们的提示非常明显,但我们事实上并不明显。
1194We think that people know that we like them.我们认为人们知道我们喜欢他们。
1195Of course they know that we like them, but actually people underestimate liking,他们当然知道我们喜欢他们 但实际上人们低估了喜欢
1196right?对吧?
1197The liking gap.喜欢的空隙。
1198So we like people who are very clearly broadcasting likes.所以我们喜欢那些非常清晰的 广播喜欢的人。
1199And I have a funny story, if I may.我有一个有趣的故事,如果我可以。
1200So this hit very close, embarrassingly to home because of my job.因此,这击中非常接近, 尴尬的回家 因为我的工作。
1201I don't know what this happens to you.我不知道这发生在你身上。
1202My friends often ask me to suss out their partners, like potential partners.我的朋友们经常要求我像潜在的伙伴一样 甩掉他们的伙伴
1203So like a friend will be like, Hey, I met a new guy.所以,就像一个朋友会喜欢, 嘿,我遇到了一个新的家伙。
1204Can, can you go out to dinner with us and tell me what you think?你能和我们一起吃晚饭吗?
1205Does that like you all?你们都喜欢吗?
1206Absolutely not.绝对不是。
1207Oh my God, nobody asks me.哦,我的上帝,没有人问我。
1208So I get this a lot.所以我得到这个很多。
1209And by the way, I, I'm just a regular person.顺便说一句 我只是个普通人
1210So I'm always like, are you, are you sure you really want to know what I'm所以我总是喜欢,你, 你确定你真的想知道我是什么
1211saying?说什么?
1212So I go on a lot of like second or third little go-see coffee dates to see, to所以我去很多 像第二或第三 小去看咖啡日期看,
1213suss out the guy or girl.帮那个男的或女的
1214It makes me feel needed.这让我觉得需要。
1215Okay.摆
1216I also love eavesdropping on like the date conversation.我也喜欢偷听 像约会谈话。
1217So she said, I really want you to meet this guy.她说,我真的希望你能见见这个人。
1218Let's call him Schmobbert.我们叫他施莫伯特吧
1219Okay.摆
1220And so we go on this dinner and we have like a Mediterranean platter and he was所以我们去吃晚饭, 我们有一个像地中海的盘子,他当时
1221okay, you know, it's like, okay, he's, he's nice, but I wasn't like green好吧,你知道,这就像,好吧,他很好, 但我不喜欢绿色
1222flag, green flag, you know, it's kind of like meh.旗帜,绿色旗帜,你知道, 这有点像Meh。
1223So the next day I get the call.所以第二天我接到电话
1224She's like, Hey, what did you think?她就像,嘿,你觉得呢?
1225And I'm about to say, he's only okay.我要说 他没事
1226When she goes, you know what?当她走了,你知道吗?
1227He just loved you.他只是爱你。
1228It's like, Oh, what?这就像,哦,什么?
1229She said, Oh, you know, he thought you were so funny and he already bought your她说,哦,你知道,他觉得你这么好笑 他已经买了你的
1230audible book and he just loved talking to you.他喜欢跟你说话
1231Like the most I started to like him more.就像我最喜欢他一样
1232Like it was so embarrassing because as she was telling me all these things about好像很尴尬 因为她告诉我这些事情
1233how he liked me, I was like, you know, Schmobbert, he is a great guy.他喜欢我,我就像, 你知道,施莫伯特, 他是一个伟大的家伙。
1234He's clever.他很聪明
1235He's so smart.他很聪明。
1236He liked my, he liked my jokes.他喜欢我的,他喜欢我的笑话。
1237Really?真的吗?
1238She's like, yeah, he just, you know, he just really had a good time with you.她喜欢,是的,他只是, 你知道,他只是 真的有一个很好的时间与你。
1239And I felt like I liked him more in that moment.我觉得我更喜欢他
1240And I was horrified by my own response.我对自己的反应感到震惊。
1241And I realized we so want to be liked that when someone clearly signals liking,我意识到我们非常想被喜欢 当有人明显喜欢的时候
1242it makes us like them more.这让我们更喜欢他们。
1243Right?对吧?
1244So we can be charismatic one as we send clear signals of liking, but also two,所以当我们发出清晰的喜悦信号时 我们可以成为魅力的一号 但还有二号
1245and we talked about this a little bit last time is fundamentally 82% of our我们上次谈这个 基本上占我们82%
1246impressions of people are based on warmth and competence.对人的印象是基于温暖和能力。
1247So people who are first and is first signaling, I'm open, I'm friendly, and所以先发信号的人 我开放,我很友好
1248then competent, I'm capable, I'm efficient, I'm effective, make us feel然后有能力,我有能力,我有效率,我有效,让我们觉得
1249{\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}就像我这样在人手上
1250Every human being we first meet, we're trying to answer two questions.每个人类,我们第一次见面, 我们试图回答两个问题。
1251Can I trust you and can I rely on you?我可以信任你,我可以信任你吗?
1252So the second thing that charismatic people are doing is they're signaling,所以,第二件有魅力的事情是,他们正在发出信号,
1253you can trust me and you can rely on me.你可以相信我,你可以信赖我。
1254I'm going to get it done.即得圆满.
1255I'm going to only speak when I know something.我只会在知道事情之后说话
1256I'm going to be assertive.我会很自信的
1257I'm going to carry us through this conversation.我要带我们通过这个对话。
1258I think that sort of the, this came after cues in a good way because cues is very我认为,那种,这是 后提示的方式很好 因为提示是非常
1259much about picking your signals, but conversation is about being a bit大部分关于选择你的信号, 但谈话是有点
1260assertive about the plan, right?坚持计划,对不对?
1261If you read this book, you are going to feel in control of conversation.如果你读了这本书 你会觉得能控制对话
1262You're going to feel like you're approaching a conversation and you know你会觉得你正在接近谈话,你知道
1263what you want to do if you have intention.你想做什么,如果你有意图。
1264We like that.我们喜欢这样
1265Charismatic people like they can, they carry us, right?有魅力的人像他们可以, 他们背我们,对不对?
1266Like they're like, we got this, we're going to do level, I'm going to ask about就像他们一样,我们得到了这个, 我们要做水平,我要问关于
1267this, I'm going to do dream killing.这个,我要去做梦杀。
1268And if I like you, if I like you, we're going to talk about your character.狦и尺舧 狦и尺舧 и穦酵酵
1269And so I think that that plan is a secret door into charisma.所以我认为这个计划是进入魅力的秘密门。
1270Is there anything else that, you know, people accidentally do that holds them还有其他什么,你知道, 人们不小心做的 持有他们
1271back from being someone of high aura?从高气压的人回来?
1272Yes.对
1273They try to be impressive.他们试图令人印象深刻。
1274Now I know we talked about this before.我知道我们之前谈过了
1275Here's what happens when you go into the conversation, trying to sound smart,当你进入对话中, 试图听起来聪明,
1276trying to impress people with your accolades and your background as you试图用你的优雅和背景来给人们留下深刻印象
1277actually end up creating distance.最终创造了距离。
1278And I have a story where this felt very, very real.我有一个故事,它的感觉非常,非常真实。
1279So I was living in Austin, Texas.所以我住在德克萨斯州奥斯汀
1280I moved since then, but I was in Austin, Texas and I was invited to a VIP party.我从那时起就搬家了 但我在德克萨斯州奥斯汀 被邀请参加贵宾派对
1281She lives down at the beach in LA.她住在洛杉矶的海滩上
1282If anyone wants to do lunch or dinner or breakfast with Vanessa, she is, I'll如果有人想和Vanessa一起吃午饭 吃晚饭 或者吃早餐
1283share her number in the comments section.与她分享评论部分的编号。
1284It'll be pinned.会被钉住的
1285Exactly.没错
1286So I was in Austin and I was invited to this VIP party and I was like, oh我当时在奥斯汀 我被邀请参加贵宾派对 我当时想
1287man, like what, why am I being invited?为什么邀请我?
1288Like so imposter syndrome.像这样冒充综合症。
1289We get there and I'm like, oh, I know that person's YouTube channel.我们到了那里,我就像, 哦,我知道那个人的YouTube频道。
1290Like I know that person.就像我认识那个人一样
1291Like the people I immediately recognized.就像我马上认出的人一样
1292And I'm like, wow.而我喜欢,哇。
1293And then of course, like within the first five minutes, the leader of this group然后,当然,就像在前五分钟, 这个集团的领导人
1294says, we're going to get in a circle and we are going to introduce ourselves.说,我们要进入一个圈子,然后自我介绍。
1295And this is like, so we get in a circle and the first person basically is like,这就像,所以我们得到一个圆 和第一人基本上就像,
1296I'm a billionaire and I invented the internet or something like that.我是亿万富翁,我发明了互联网之类的东西。
1297And the second person is like, I'd love to know what they actually said.第二个人喜欢, 我想知道他们到底说了什么。
1298That's what you heard.这就是你听到的。
1299Like it was so impressive.简直让人印象深刻
1300You know, I was like, okay, okay.你知道,我很喜欢,好吧,好吧。
1301This first person is all right.此第一人无碍.
1302The second person is like, I cured cancer, right?第二个人就像,我治愈了癌症,对不对?
1303Like, like, like amazing, like, and it was just like person after person.喜欢,喜欢,像惊人的, 像,就像人一个接一个。
1304It was like getting more and more impressive and like, it's slowly coming这就像越来越令人印象深刻, 像,它正在慢慢的来
1305to me and I was like, everyone was trying to be impressive, right?对我来说,我就像, 每个人都试图令人印象深刻,对不对?
1306Like they're, they were saying things that were meant to, to shock就像他们一样,他们说话 本来想,震惊
1307and wow and awe you it gets to me.哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇
1308And I was like, my name is Vanessa and I'm a recovering awkward person.我当时想,我叫Vanessa, 我是一个恢复尴尬的人。
1309And I help smart, awkward people with my books and my YouTube channel.我用我的书和YouTube频道 帮助聪明、尴尬的人。
1310And everyone laughed and took a deep breath.大家都笑了,深呼吸了。
1311Now I have other accolades that I could have shared, but I was现在,我还有其他的优雅,我可以分享, 但我是
1312like, it's nothing in comparison.像,这是没有比较。
1313And also I just wanted to be a little vulnerable.我也只是想有点脆弱。
1314So I said, and I don't know why I was invited to this party.所以我说,我不知道为什么我被邀请参加这个聚会。
1315And everyone laughed, right?大家都笑了,对吧?
1316There's like a little bit of vulnerability.亦有如是微细微虚弱.
1317Every single person after me said, I'm a recovering awkward person.在我之后的每个人 都说 我是个正在康复的尴尬的人
1318So like, they also were able to feel awkward.所以,他们也感到尴尬。
1319So it changed the nature of the rest of the invites, the rest of the introductions.于是改变了其余邀请,其余介绍的性质.
1320And then afterwards, the circle like breaks up for networking and most之后,圆形像断裂 建立网络和大多数
1321people came over to me, not the billionaire, not the cure of cancer, not人们来找我,不是亿万富翁,不是治疗癌症,不是
1322the saving the earth, climate change guru, but wanted to talk to me about awkwardness拯救地球 气候变化大师 但想和我谈谈尴尬
1323and about my YouTube channel and about they're smart, but they feel uncomfortable.和关于我的YouTube频道 关于他们很聪明,但他们觉得不舒服。
1324And I realized like, I was just the easiest person to talk to in that circle.我意识到 我只是在那个圈子里最容易交谈的人
1325You have aura, Vanessa.你有气息 瓦内萨
1326You have Riz.你有里兹。
1327I was the easiest person to talk to in that circle.我是那个圈子里最容易交谈的人
1328And so I think that if we can-所以我认为如果我们能...
1329Do you have aura, Vanessa?你有气息吗,凡妮莎?
1330You parlayed that one out there.你把那一个摊了出来。
1331Maybe when my makeup is done.也许当我的化妆完成。
1332Do you have aura?你有气息吗?
1333When my makeup is done, maybe.当我的化妆完成,也许。
1334Maybe when my makeup is done.也许当我的化妆完成。
1335I mean, I don't, I don't know.我意思是说,我不知道,我不知道。
1336Do I?是吗?
1337You do have aura.你确实有气息。
1338Okay.摆
1339Um, so I think that I just share that because we don't have to put so嗯,所以我想我只是分享 因为我们不必说
1340much pressure on ourselves to be impressive.给自己带来很大压力,让我们印象深刻。
1341In fact, the really impressive people, I don't know, I haven't met that many其实,真正令人印象深刻的人, 我不知道,我还没有见过那么多
1342billionaires, but the ones I've met, like most of them are quite humble and they're亿万富翁,但我见过的人, 就像他们大多数人都相当谦卑,他们是
1343quite, they downplay how successful they are because they've already made it.相当的,他们轻描淡写他们有多成功 因为他们已经做到了。
1344And so I think if we all just put less pressure on ourselves to just connect,所以我认为如果我们都只是 给自己带来的压力 仅仅连接,
1345that would be easier.那样比较容易
1346It does really track.它真的跟踪。
1347I was thinking about the people in my life that have aura and they're not the我在想我生命中那些有气息的人 他们不是
1348people that have, are the most successful, the most accomplished.那些曾经,最成功,最成就的人。
1349They are, they are the ones that you would most like, like to spend time他们是,他们是你最喜欢的, 喜欢花时间
1350with for whatever reason.无论出于什么原因
1351Yeah, they're easy.是啊,他们很容易。
1352And by the way, it's back and forth.且道是前后时.
1353Like you can be introverted and an extra or extroverted.就像你可以内向 和额外的或外向的。
1354You don't have, like people I think think that master你没有,像人一样,我觉得主人
1355conversationals are extroverted.对话是外向的。
1356Actually, that's not usually the case.实际上,情况通常并非如此。
1357Sometimes extroverts fall into their own traps with computational有时外向器会随着计算而落入自己的陷阱
1358narcissism, uh, ambiverts, introverts do really well.自我主义,呃,矛盾论,内向论都做得非常好。
1359But one of the other sort of definitions of aura is the person who, I don't know,但另一种对气态的定义是, 我不知道,
1360they just seem to take up more space.他们似乎占据了更多的空间。
1361They, they seem to speak slower and be, you kind of like see them walk across a room.他们说话似乎比较慢,你好像看到他们走过一个房间
1362What is that?这是什么?
1363And like, how are they cultivating that?他们是怎么培育出来的?
1364Like that kind of aura?喜欢这种气息?
1365I think there's, I, this has been my guess.我想,这是我的猜测。
1366I have also thought about this because when someone walks into a room and you're我也考虑过这一点 因为当有人走进一个房间 你
1367just like, Michelle Obama was like that.就像,米歇尔・奥巴马就是这样。
1368Oh, I've never met her, I've never met her, but like, I can only哦,我从来没有见过她, 我从来没有见过她,但喜欢,我只能
1369imagine, rather becoming.想象一下,相当的成为。
1370Tony Robbins as well.托尼・罗宾斯也是
1371Oh, he had Sirius.哦,他有天狼星。 哦,他有天狼星。
1372For sure.当然
1373I think it's winner energy.我觉得是赢家的能量
1374I think when certain people walk into a room and they have claimed their space,我想,当某些人走进一个房间 他们已经要求自己的空间,
1375I think it's internal and external.以为内外.
1376I think physically, and this has been studied, they are physically taking up我认为身体上,已经研究过, 他们正在身体上接受
1377more space, whether they're short or tall, in that winners, they have more更多的空间,无论是短还是高, 在那些赢家,他们有更多的
1378space between their ears and their shoulders.他们的耳朵和肩膀之间的空间。
1379They take up more space between their torso and their arms.他们在躯干和手臂之间占据更多的空间.
1380They literally claim more space physically.他们实际上要求更多的物理空间。
1381Right?对吧?
1382So if I were to like do the entire interview, and I've seen people do所以,如果我喜欢做 整个采访,我见过的人做
1383interviews in your chair where they're taking up as little space as possible.在你的椅子上接受采访 他们尽量少占用空间
1384You, you, you aren't as drawn to this.你,你,你,你没有 吸引到这一点。
1385Right?对吧?
1386And so I think that physical, there's a physical taking up space and所以我认为,物理, 有一个物理占用空间,
1387they're micro movements.它们是微小的运动。
1388Like I, it's not walking in like with my arms up, it's, it's micro, right?就像我,它不是走进来 像我的手,它是,它是微的,对不对?
1389It's like a slight down the shoulder.如轻轻下肩.
1390It's a slight up of the head.头稍起.
1391And when I do that, it affects everything about me.当我这样做,它影响 我的一切。
1392like it affects my vocal tone, like it effects my vocal tone, like it affects my vocal tone,就像它影响我的声调, 就像它影响我的声调, 就像它影响我的声调,
1393like it affects my vocal tone, like it affects my vocal tone, like it affects my vocal tone,就像它影响我的声调, 就像它影响我的声调, 就像它影响我的声调,
1394like it affects my vocal tone, like it affects my vocal tone, like it affects my vocal tone, like it就像它影响我的声调 就像它影响我的声调 就像它影响我的声调
1395One thing that I think about a lot is maximum resonance point.我有很多想法是 最大的共鸣点
1396Maximum resonance point is a part of your voice that is the lowest end of your natural最大共振点是您声音的一部分,是您自然界的最低端
1397range that signifies pride, that signifies calm.表示自豪 表示平静
1398So for example, when I'm afraid or a little bit nervous, like I'll tend to go a little比如说,当我害怕或者有点紧张的时候, 就像我倾向于去一点点
1399bit higher in my vocal range, and if I were to do the entire presentation in this tone声音范围要高一点 如果我用这个音调做整个演示
1400of voice where I was talking to you, it would be horrible, right?我和你说话的地方的声音很可怕,对吧?
1401You would not want to listen to it.你不会想听的
1402And that's because I'm tightening my vocal cords, and when someone's very anxious, they这是因为我收紧了我的声带, 当有人非常焦虑,他们
1403tighten their shoulders, they tighten their neck, they tighten their chin.肩膀收紧,脖子收紧,下巴收紧
1404It's more of a loser feeling, right?更像是失败的感觉,对吧?
1405And you're also speaking a little bit faster then.你说话也快一点
1406Oh, interesting.哦,有趣的是,我们是...
1407I didn't even notice it, but yes, I think I was, yeah, rushing, rushing, yeah.我什至没有注意到它, 但是,是的,我想我,是的,是的,是的,是的。
1408And I had less breath, like I'm actually out of breath after doing that.我呼吸得更少了, 就像我这样做后,我实际上喘不过气来。
1409So when we don't have breath, we're speaking too quickly.所以,当我们没有呼吸, 我们说话太快。
1410My vocal cords are tense.我的声带很紧张
1411You can hear it, and they're taking up less even vocal space, right?你能听到的,他们占用的音域更少,对吧?
1412Winners use this maximum resonance point, so we can actually try it if you want to.获胜者使用这个最大共振点,所以如果你想的话,我们可以实际尝试.
1413So I want you at the very top of your, you're going to take in a deep breath and say hello所以,我要你站在你的顶部, 你要深呼吸,打个招呼
1414at the top of your breath.在你呼吸的顶端。
1415So it sounds like this.听起来是这样的
1416Hello.哈罗
1417Okay, I'm a little bit sick, hence why my voice might sound a bit different today, so好吧,我有点病了,所以为什么我的声音可能 听起来有点不同今天,所以
1418I'm a little bit deeper than normal, but hello.我比正常人深一点,但你好
1419Horrible.骇曰.
1420Yeah, that was embarrassing.是啊,这是尴尬的。
1421Horrible.骇曰.
1422Right, but I hear, I listen in on Zoom calls and I hear people, that's their very first是的,但是我听说,我听了Zoom的电话 我听到人们,这是他们第一次
1423word.词
1424Like they literally hold their breath and they say, good morning.就像他们真的屏住呼吸说,早上好。
1425Hello.哈罗
1426Hello, everyone.大家好,你们好
1427Hi.顿
1428Ooh.瓳
1429You are actually giving away your vocal competence because I'm so far away from my maximum resonance实际上你放弃了你的声学能力 因为我离我最大的共鸣很远
1430point.点。
1431My maximum resonance point is when I speak on the out-breath, so my vocal cords are relaxed.我最大的共鸣点是当我在呼吸时, 所以我的声带放松。
1432So now listen to the difference.故今谛听差别.
1433So here's the hi, hello, versus hello.这是你好,你好,对你好。
1434Both me, but you're going to treat me totally differently.我两个 但你会对我完全不同的
1435So now take a deep breath and say hello on the out-breath.所以现在深呼吸,在呼吸时打声招呼。
1436Hello.哈罗
1437Right.对
1438Now that sounds more like you because you usually use your maximum resonance point,现在这听起来更像你 因为你通常使用 你的最大共鸣点,
1439right?对吧?
1440You're very good at that.你很擅长这个
1441And I've noticed that in work culture, people who use their maximum resonance point, they我注意到,在工作文化中, 使用最大共振点的人,他们
1442are listened to more.他们听了更多。
1443They are easy to talk to because we want to listen to them.他们很容易交谈,因为我们想听他们说话。
1444They take up more aura, more riz because we're like, ah, because we can hear their confidence.因为我们能听到他们的信心 他们能听到他们的声音
1445We can hear their relaxation.我们可以听到他们的放松。
1446And so vocal cues are such an important aspect of charisma.所以声带是魅力的一个重要方面。
1447All of these questions are beautiful, but how you say your words is just as important所有这些问题都很美 但你怎么说话也同样重要
1448as what you say.如汝所说.
1449If I were to ask, so, like, what's your pursuit passion project, I guess?如果我问,所以,喜欢, 什么是你的追求激情项目,我想?
1450Can you do it?你能做到吗?
1451That sounds so terrible.听起来很可怕
1452You know, like, my lack of vocal care, you immediately hear and it tunes you out, right?你知道,像,我缺乏声波照顾, 你立即听到 它调谐你出来,对不对?
1453So I can, if I don't have good intention here, it does leak out.所以,我可以,如果我没有 良好的意图在这里,它确实泄漏。
1454That's why earlier when you asked me, like, does intention matter, I said, if you have这就是为什么你早些时候问我, 喜欢,真的意图很重要, 我说,如果你有
1455intention to care and try, it's going to matter.打算关心和尝试, 它会很重要。
1456But if you don't, if you're not trying, people will hear it.但如果你不这样做,如果你没有尝试, 人们会听到它。
1457And a lot of that is voice.大部分都是声音
1458And I think that very charismatic people, they're imbuing their voice with that winning,我觉得那些很有魅力的人 正在用胜利来表达他们的声音
1459calm confidence, and we want to catch it.冷静点,我们要抓住它
1460What about the rest of me?那剩下的我怎么办?
1461So we've talked about some of the specific conversational questions at the three stages.因此我们讨论了三个阶段的一些具体的谈话问题.
1462We've talked about vocal tone.我们谈过声调了
1463Is there any other part of being a great conversationalist?做一个伟大的对话家还有别的地方吗?
1464And I'm thinking now about, I guess we talked about hands and taking up space, but even现在我想,我想我们谈论了 手和占据空间,但甚至
1465eye contact.眼睛接触。
1466I think about this a lot.我经常想这个
1467It takes a lot of, dare I say, confidence for me to, like, look you in the eyes like它需要很多,我敢说, 自信,喜欢,看着你的眼睛像
1468这个 Vanessa 问你个问题
1469That is because when we are making eye contact chemically, we're producing oxytocin, which因为当我们用化学方法进行眼睛接触时, 我们会产生催产素,
1470is great for connection, but also you are not able to process as much.对于连接来说是伟大的,但是你也不能处理那么多。
1471The reason why eye contact is quite complicated, and I think sometimes the clips on social眼睛接触的原因相当复杂, 我想有时剪辑在社交上
1472media have, I don't like clips very much because it takes off the nuance.媒体说 我不太喜欢剪辑 因为剪辑会减少细微差别
1473Eye contact, yes, universally it's good when we have oxytocin, but also I cannot do complex眼睛接触,是的,我们有催产素的时候 普遍都是好的,但是我不能做复杂的事情
1474thinking when I'm doing this with you.想想当我和你做这些。
1475Right?对吧?
1476Like when I'm trying to remember something, I immediately look away.就像我试着记起一些事情时,我立刻视而不见。
1477If you were to ask me a complex math problem, I look away.如果你问我一个复杂的数学问题,我就不看。
1478And so in conversation, we actually do not want 100% eye contact.因此,在谈话中,我们实际上不希望100%的眼神接触。
1479We don't even want 70% eye contact.我们甚至不想要70%的眼睛接触。
148060-70% eye contact is more ideal in Western cultures.60-70%的眼接触在西方文化中更为理想.
1481But if someone is deep thinking, or they are social processing, you actually do want less但是如果有人深思熟虑,或者他们是 社会加工,你确实想要更少
1482eye contact because they're trying to access their memories.眼睛接触因为他们试图访问他们的记忆.
1483If I'm doing this, I'm purely focused on the connection.如果我这样做, 我纯粹专注于连接。
1484But we're in an interview.但我们正在接受采访
1485I want to, what does my work say?我想,我的工作怎么说?
1486What was the research?研究内容是什么?
1487What was the number?号码是多少?
1488And so that is why it can be sometimes uncomfortable is because it's not allowing your brain to这也是为什么它有时会不舒服 是因为它不允许你的大脑
1489think.以为.
1490It's just about connection.这只是关于连接。
1491But when you're delivering, like I understand the deliberation.但当你送货的时候 就像我理解的考虑
1492You look away when you deliver.你送货的时候别看
1493I do that.我这样做。
1494Like I'm doing it right now.就像我现在在做一样
1495Yeah.对
1496But then when I deliver the point.但当我说出重点时
1497Oh, yeah.对
1498I come back.我回来了。
1499Is that?是吗?
1500You know why?你知道为什么吗?
1501Because one, yes, you're trying to connect.因为有一个,是的,你试图连接。
1502But two, when you are delivering, you want to watch my face to see, do I believe you?但第二,当你送货时, 你想看我的脸看, 我相信你吗?
1503Am I raising my eyebrows?我抬眉毛吗?
1504Am I showing you disgust?我让你觉得恶心吗?
1505Am I like, I don't believe it.我简直不敢相信
1506I hardened my lower lid.我硬了下盖
1507So the reason why we'll often like we're processing, we're processing, and then we're delivering所以,为什么我们经常喜欢 我们处理,我们处理, 然后我们交付
1508is because two things are happening at once.因为有两件事正在发生
1509We're trying to connect.我们正在尝试连接。
1510I want you to hear my point and fill it with oxytocin.我要你听我的话 用催产素填充
1511But also I want to see, do you believe me?我也想知道,你相信我吗?
1512Or are you raising your eyebrows, right?还是你抬起眉毛,对吧?
1513So I'm making more eye contact with you because I'm trying to see where your interest lies,所以,我做更多的眼睛接触你 因为我试图 看你的兴趣所在,
1514right?对吧?
1515Whereas you're looking at your eye pack as you're trying to get to the next question.当你正看着你的眼袋 当你试图得到下一个问题。
1516You want to make sure that we're covering everything.你想确保我们覆盖一切
1517That's why this is not natural.所以这不自然
1518This doesn't usually happen in a natural conversation.这通常不会发生在自然对话中.
1519But it's also when you're in conversation, you're better off making eye contact in the但也是当你在谈话时,你最好在
1520first few seconds of an interaction.前几秒钟的互动。
1521So right when you're on that greeting, oh, it's so good to see you hopping on video or所以当你在打招呼, 哦,很高兴看到你在视频上跳跃,或者
1522in person because you're giving that burst of oxytocin.是因为你给 催产素爆发。
1523But then you're okay to look away.但你还是可以视而不见的
1524You're okay to process.你可以处理。
1525You might want to make your eye contact most when you're trying to suss out, how is this你可能想让你的眼睛接触最多 当你试图吸出,如何是这个
1526person receiving this?有人收到吗?
1527That also makes you easy to talk to because if I notice that you're lighting up about这也让你容易说话 因为如果我注意到你正在点燃
1528something, I can pivot more into that.有些事我可以更深入地研究
1529If I notice that you're like, oh, that's horrible, I want to be easy to talk to by pivoting away如果我注意到你喜欢, 哦,那太可怕了, 我想通过支离破碎的方式 容易交谈
1530from it.从它。
1531And when you're talking to me, what is the best way to be a good listener?当你和我说话的时候,做一个好听者的最佳方法是什么?
1532Because some people go like, they interrupt, they go, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,因为有些人像,他们打断, 他们去,哦,是啊,是啊,是啊,是啊,
1533yeah, yeah.对,对。
1534And then you've got other people who will like nod and like really sort of encourage还有其他人喜欢点头 喜欢鼓励
1535and cheerlead when you're talking.和啦啦队,当你说话。
1536And then you'll have the like, some people that they kind of, they don't know they're然后,你会有类似, 有些人,他们有点, 他们不知道他们是
1537doing it, but they start to like scowl at you.这样做,但他们开始喜欢 嘲笑你。
1538I know.我知道,我记得
1539Yes, yes.对,对。
1540That really bothers me.这真的让我很困扰。
1541But I struggle with that a little bit, just personally, because I'm a people pleaser.但我有一点挣扎, 只是个人的, 因为我是一个人民取悦。
1542So when someone's like, oh, I actually have a friend who defaults to the disgust micro-expression.所以当有人喜欢,哦,我有一个朋友 谁默认了恶心的微表情。
1543He doesn't even realize he's doing it.他甚至没有意识到他这样做。
1544It's a punctuator.即是普门.
1545A facial punctuator is a non-verbal habit.面部穿孔器是一种非语言的习惯.
1546It doesn't actually mean anything emotionally.这实际上不意味着什么情感。
1547It's just how they are at rest.这只是他们如何休息。
1548I've had to tell myself he doesn't actually feel disgusted.我不得不告诉自己 他并不觉得恶心
1549So you're talking about warmth.故言温养.
1550All the listening cues are about warmth.所有监听提示都是关于温暖的。
1551So listening cues are nodding, treble nod, that in India, Bulgaria, and Pakistan, nodding所以监听提示是点头,三点点头, 在印度,保加利亚和巴基斯坦,点头
1552is a little bit different.有点不同
1553So I always try to make that note.所以我总是试着做那个音符。
1554Head tilt is a universal warmth signal because we're exposing our ear up to the sky.头部倾斜是一个普遍温暖的信号,因为我们正向天空暴露我们的耳朵.
1555Alinen is warm and competent, both actually, because I'm trying to literally get closer阿里宁是温暖和有能力的, 两者都实际上, 因为我试图 字面上接近
1556to you to understand more deeply.让你更深刻地理解
1557A competent cue where you're listening is a lower lid flex.一个能听的提示是 下盖的弹性。
1558So if I flex my lower lids at you, this is a universal response.所以,如果我把下部的盖子对着你, 这是一个普遍的反应。
1559When we flex our lower lids, we're trying to see something better, right?当我们把下面的盖子伸开, 我们试图看到更好的东西,对不对?
1560If I say, do you see that over there?如果我说,你看见那边吗?
1561We harden our lower lids.我们加硬我们的下盖。
1562What we're doing biologically is we're hooding our eyes to block the light so I can see more我们在生物上所做的是 蒙住眼睛 挡住光线 这样我就能看见更多
1563detail.细节。
1564So when you're speaking and someone goes, they are trying to deeply understand you.所以当你说话和有人去, 他们试图深深理解你。
1565It is not positive or negative.它不是积极或消极的。
1566It is a cue of intense focus.这是强烈关注的提示。
1567Take note, because whatever you just said has triggered something in their brain that注意,因为无论你刚才说什么 都引发了他们大脑里的东西
1568they're going, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, right?他们走了,什么,什么,什么,什么,什么,什么,什么,对不对?
1569So when I'm giving a presentation to a C-suite and have a couple or investors or important所以当我给一个C套房做介绍 并有夫妇或投资者或重要
1570people and I see someone do a lower lid flex, I have a choice.人们,我看到有人做 一个较低的盖子弹性, 我有选择。
1571I can take note of what I just said and bookmark it, or I can stop and do dynamic presenting.我可以注意到我刚才说的话,并给它打上记号,或者我可以停下来做动态的介绍。
1572We haven't even talked about presenting, but I can sw- does this make sense?我们甚至没有谈论 展示, 但我可以sw - 这有道理吗?
1573Yeah.对
1574Are we good?没事吧?
1575Any questions here?有问题吗?
1576You know, let me give you another example of this.让我再举个例子
1577So you can also look for these cues, which also makes you a pleasure to listen to because所以你也可以寻找这些提示, 这也让你乐于聆听,因为
1578I am so deeply listening that I'm trying to respond to your emotional reaction to what我是如此的深刻的听,我试图回应 你的情绪反应什么
1579I'm saying.我说的
1580I think that is a really, we sort of touched on it earlier, but I think it's a really unappreciated我认为这是真的,我们有点 感动它之前, 但我认为这是 一个真的不欣赏
1581part of being a good conversationalist is being dynamic based on the cues you're getting作为一名好对话家的一部分 正在根据你得到的提示而充满活力
1582back.回来
1583Yes.对
1584Actually, please let's double click on this for a second because I think my planners,事实上,请让我们双击一下,因为我认为我的规划者,
1585my planners for watching are like, okay, I got a plan, Vanessa, I got it, I got my questions.我的计划是,好吧,我有个计划,凡妮莎,我得到了它,我得到了我的问题。
1586What I don't want you to do is have the plan, ask the question, and then check off to the我不希望你做 是有计划,问问题,然后检查
1587next one.下一个
1588Right?对吧?
1589The whole point of these is actually to be quite dynamic.整个问题其实是相当动态的。
1590It might be that you ask, what's your personal passion project, and you spend hours talking你可能会问,你的个人激情项目是什么, 你花几个小时说话
1591about that.关于那个。
1592What a pleasure.幸会
1593What a delight.多开心啊
1594That means you're being dynamic in that, whoa, like you both lit up on it.意思是你们都充满活力 就像你们一样
1595You can go there.你可以去那边。
1596You can dive deep.你可以潜入深处。
1597So I want you to have a plan, but I also want you to be dynamic with it.所以我希望你有一个计划, 但我也希望你充满活力。
1598Like both can be true.就像两者都是真的
1599Vanessa, of all the things that we have discussed, is there anything we haven't talked about凡妮莎,我们讨论过的所有事情, 有没有我们没有谈论过的东西
1600that we should have talked about that appears within your new book, Conversation?你的新书"对话"里写到的 我们该谈谈吗?
1601How to connect with anyone and make every interaction count.如何与任何人联系,使每一次互动都算数.
1602There is one thing that we didn't get to touch on that I think can help you prepare有一件事我们没有接触 我想可以帮助你准备
1603for good conversation, just very practically, which is you are going to be asked boring说好话,实际上, 你会被问到无聊
1604questions.问题。
1605We talked about this earlier.我们之前谈过了
1606I want you to, if you are willing, write down the questions you are asked the most often.我希望你,如果你愿意的话, 写下你最常被问的问题。
1607Everyone kind of gets similar questions depending on their job, their industry, where they are每个人都会有类似的问题 取决于他们的工作,他们的行业,他们在哪里
1608in the world.在这个世界。
1609What are the questions you're asked most often?你最常问的问题是什么?
1610And how can you do better?你怎么能做得更好呢?
1611And then think of what are gifts to the other person?然后想想给别人的礼物是什么?
1612Not just interesting for you, right?不只是你感兴趣的,对不对?
1613Not just like, oh, well, you know, an interesting fact about me, but like what is a story or不只是喜欢,哦,嗯,你知道, 一个有趣的事实 关于我,
1614an anecdote or an answer that's going to let the other person be like, oh, me too, or really,传闻或答案 会让其他人喜欢,哦,我也一样,或者真的,
1615or what got you into that, or why did you do that?或者你为什么这么做?
1616Because then you're actually, your answer is doing two things.因为实际上,你的答案是做两件事。
1617It's interesting, but it's also conversationally generous.有趣的是,但也在谈话中慷慨解囊.
1618You're not creating a dead end for yourself.你不会为自己制造一个死胡同
1619And this is so true because there is a most interesting thing about everybody, and that这是事实 因为每个人都有一件有趣的事
1620most interesting thing will beget the same set of questions.最有趣的事情是 会得到相同的问题集。
1621Yes.对
1622There's someone that I know, and she has a very interesting career, but in one part of有个我认识的人 她的职业生涯很有趣 但其中一部分
1623her career she went to Bible school for a couple of years.她的事业上过几年圣经学校
1624And I've never met anybody that went to Bible school for three years, so I imagine this我从来没有见过任何人 谁上过圣经学校三年, 所以我想象这个
1625person always gets asked about Bible school for three years, like, because everybody wants人们总是被问 关于圣经学校三年一样, 因为每个人都想
1626to know.来知道。
1627In the three years of her life.于三世时.
1628Yeah, yeah, yeah.对,对,对
1629So I remember just thinking that, like, that's the question that everybody, when you introduce所以,我记得只是在想, 喜欢,这是每个人的问题, 当你介绍
1630it, they were like, Bible school, tell me about it.他们就像圣经学校,告诉我
1631Yeah.对
1632Or, and I give this example in the book, is my friend Jason, he can't smell or taste.或者,我在书中举了这个例子,是我的朋友杰森,他闻不到,也闻不到味道.
1633And he's always at dinners with people.他总是和别人一起吃饭
1634That's all he does all the time.他总是这样
1635He's the editor of Entrepreneur Magazine.他是企业家杂志的编辑.
1636And so he is always at dinners.所以他总是在吃饭。
1637And he brings up on purpose, he will say, what are you ordering?他故意提起,他会说,你订什么?
1638I feel asked about food all the time, and he goes, well, actually, I have no sense of我总是觉得自己被问及食物, 他去,嗯,实际上,我不明白
1639taste or smell.味觉或嗅觉。
1640So what's your favorite thing?你最喜欢什么?
1641What should I taste?我该吃什么?
1642If I could taste something, what would you have me taste?如果我能尝到什么 你会让我尝到什么?
1643And it produces incredible conversation.它产生了令人难以置信的对话。
1644So much so that I was talking to my friend Nicole Lapin, she goes, I know Jason.以至于我和我的朋友妮可·拉平谈过 她走了,我认识杰森
1645And she began to tell me about his interesting stories.她开始告诉我他有趣的故事。
1646She remembered his interestingness from that answer.她从这个答案中想起了他的趣味.
1647So even like, where are your settings?所以,甚至像,哪里是你的设置?
1648Are you doing coffee?你在喝咖啡吗?
1649Is there interesting coffee anecdotes?有有趣的咖啡异闻吗?
1650Are you always at meals?你总是在吃饭吗?
1651Are you, right?是吗?
1652So you can also set yourself up and them up for success with those interesting answers.所以,你也可以设置自己 和他们的成功 这些有趣的答案。
1653So have a script for the questions that you get asked the most that offer gifts to those所以,有一个脚本 对于你被问到的问题 最提供礼物给这些
1654that are on the receiving end of that answer.答案的接收端。
1655Yeah.对
1656And the last thing I would say is, this is a plan.我最后要说的是,这是一个计划。
1657And the entire goal of this is for you to feel more in control, for you to feel more这整个目标是让你 感觉更多的控制, 让你觉得更多的
1658confident.自信点
1659You know, I think as someone who wasn't confident for a long time and who had very awkward conversations你知道,我认为一个人 谁不自信 长时间,谁有过非常尴尬的谈话
1660for a long time, just knowing that I had a good intent helped me a lot.很久以来,只是知道我有好意 帮助了我很多。
1661So this is the plan, but also feel free to totally deviate from the plan.所以这就是计划, 但也觉得可以完全偏离计划。
1662That when you're in the moment, if you're feeling excited and interested and engaged,当你在那一刻, 如果你感到兴奋和感兴趣和订婚,
1663go with it.随它去。
1664If you're feeling, I don't like this person, I don't feel this person, we are off.如果你觉得 我不喜欢这个人 我不觉得这个人 我们要走了
1665You can lead the conversation.你可以领导谈话
1666Who did you write this book for, Vanessa?你为谁写的这本书,凡妮莎?
1667So if they've gotten to this stage in the conversation and they're thinking, should所以如果他们在谈话中进入了这个阶段, 他们正在思考,应该
1668I get that book or not?我拿到那本书了吗?
1669Who is it for?给谁用的?
1670This is for people who want to stop dreading small talk.这是给那些不想害怕小说的人的
1671Dread was a real motivation for me because so many of my students would say, oh, I have死亡对我来说是一个真正的动机 因为我的很多学生会说,哦,我有
1672to go to the networking event.用于网络活动。
1673I am dreading talking to my boss.我怕跟我老板说话
1674I hate those first five minutes of my team call.我最讨厌我的团队打来的第一个五分钟
1675Oh, I don't know what to talk about on a date.哦,我不知道该说什么 在约会。
1676First dates are horrible.第一次约会是可怕的。
1677First dates can be fun if you have a conversational plan.第一次约会会很有趣 如果你有一个对话计划。
1678Even if it's not your person, they can still be fun.即使不是你的人, 他们仍然可以很有趣。
1679Conversation can be not awkward.交谈不是尴尬的。
1680It can be great at the start of a meeting if you know how to do it.如果你知道怎么做,在会议开始时会很棒的
1681And so I would like to get rid of the dread in your life.所以我想摆脱你的恐惧
1682I would like to get rid of the awkwardness in your life because, and the deeper meaning我想摆脱你生活中的尴尬 因为,更深的意义
1683is we are in a loneliness epidemic.我们陷入孤独的流行病
1684And I think if we don't remember how good the joy of conversation is, we won't do it.我想如果我们不记得对话的快乐有多好 我们就不会这么做了
1685And so if I can take away the dread of conversation and give you beautiful所以,如果我能消除 可怕的谈话, 给你美丽的
1686conversation with your person or not, you're going to feel less lonely.无论你是否和你个人交谈, 你会觉得不那么孤独。
1687Kind of sounds like it's for all of us.听起来像是给大家的
1688I think it's for all of us.我想是给大家的
1689What a wonderful book.多么棒的书。
1690And what a perfectly timed book at a time when AI and computers are robbing us of the当AI和电脑在抢走我们
1691joy of human conversation.人类对话的快乐
1692And I think increasingly kids are going to struggle with conversations.我想孩子们会越来越难以接受对话。
1693I mean, people are saying this already.我是说,人们已经说过了
1694Teachers say to me that, you know, they see their kids in class and they don't know the老师对我说,你知道, 他们看到他们的孩子在课堂上,他们不知道
1695basic skills of how to relate to each other through conversation.如何通过对话彼此联系的基本技能。
1696So a great book, I think, for parents.给父母写本很棒的书
1697It was meant to be now.本来是现在的
1698It was meant to be.本来意.
1699It took you a long time, right?你花了很长时间,对吧?
170020 years.20岁
1701Well, I'm glad it's here.嗯,我很高兴它在这里。
1702Conversation.论曰.
1703How to connect with anyone and make every interaction count.如何与任何人联系,使每一次互动都算数.
1704I'm going to link it below if anyone wants to go and buy it right now.如果有人想现在就去买它 我会把它连到下面
1705Thank you.谢谢
1706What a wonderful book, Vanessa.多棒的书,凡妮莎。
1707Congratulations.祝贺你
1708Thank you.谢谢
1709It's finally here.终于来了
1710Thank you for helping me bring it into the world.谢谢你帮我把它带进世界
1711It's OK.没事的
1712You deserve everything.你应该得到一切。
1713You're such a phenom.你真是个坏蛋
1714Oh my gosh.天呐
1715I hardly, I'm obsessed with people.我几乎不,我迷恋的人。
1716That's it.就这样
1717We have a closing tradition where the last guest leaves a question for the next guest我们有一个关闭的传统, 最后一个客人留一个问题给下一个客人
1718not knowing who they're leaving it for.不知道他们要为谁而去
1719And the question left for you is, do you feel like there are things you sacrificed in your剩下的问题是,你觉得自己牺牲的东西
1720personal life to build your success that you regret and wish you could now get back?个人生活来建立你的成功 你后悔并希望你现在能回来?
1721Yes.对
1722You know, I briefly mentioned that I moved, and I moved to be closer to family, and that你知道,我简短地提到,我搬家了,我搬家了 更接近家庭,而且
1723was because I think I sacrificed friendship and family relationship in the hustle.因为我认为我牺牲了友谊和家庭关系
1724You know, we moved to Austin for work.我们搬到奥斯汀工作
1725I moved to Austin for work, and I left my family.我搬到奥斯汀工作,我离开了我的家人。
1726And I don't regret Austin because I had some great growth there, but I regret being away我不后悔奥斯汀 因为我在那里成长很壮观 但我后悔离开
1727from my family when my children were very, very little.我的家人,当我的孩子很小。
1728It was really hard to have babies without my mom, without my sister.没有我妈妈,没有妹妹,很难生孩子
1729And so I wish I could have figured that out a little bit differently, but I'm here now.所以我希望我能想出 有点不同, 但我现在在这里。
1730And what is it you wish you could get back?那你希望你能回来吗?
1731I felt very alone as a new mom, and I don't think that helped me or my children.我作为一个新妈妈感到非常孤独, 我不认为那帮助了我和我的孩子。
1732I wish I could get back a time to feel more communal.我希望我能回到一个 感觉更共同的时间。
1733You know, having a baby is such a beautiful thing for family and friends, and it was very生孩子对家人和朋友来说是件很美好的事
1734lonely because I just didn't have a lot of people around me.寂寞是因为我身边的人不多
1735And now you're here.现在你来了
1736I know.我知道,我记得
1737I'm back.我回来了。
1738Down by the beach in LA.在洛杉矶的沙滩边
1739I'm back.我回来了。
1740My sister is at my house right now.我妹妹现在在我家
1741Oh really?是吗?
1742With my kids, yes.和我的孩子,是的。
1743It's good to have you in town.很高兴你来了
1744I'm so excited.我太兴奋了
1745And I will come.我会来的。
1746Maybe.也许
1747I don't believe you.我不信你们
1748Only if it's good.惟有妙义.
1749So you don't have to say it.故不须说.
1750You don't have to say it.你不必说
1751I'm not going to invite you to anything.我不会邀请你参加任何活动
1752Conversation.论曰.
1753How to connect with anyone and make every interaction count.如何与任何人联系,使每一次互动都算数.
1754Please do go buy this book.请去买这本书
1755Very important to Vanessa, and also very important to me by way of that.对凡妮莎很重要 对我也很重要
1756It's a brilliant, brilliant book.这是一本辉煌的书
1757One I think that we will need.我认为我们需要一个。
1758Vanessa, thank you.凡妮莎 谢谢你
1759We're done.我们结束了。
1760Thanks.谢谢
1761YouTube have this new crazy algorithm where they know exactly what video you would likeYouTube有新的疯狂算法 他们知道你想要的视频
1762to watch next based on AI and all of your viewing behavior.接下来根据人工智能和所有观看行为观看
1763And the algorithm says that this video is the perfect video for you.算法上说这段视频 对你来说是完美的视频
1764It's different for everybody looking right now.现在每个人看起来都不一样
1765Check this video out.看看这个视频
1766I bet you, you might love it.我打赌你会喜欢的
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