谷爱凌：如何开辟属于自己的道路以及神经的可塑性｜新加坡管理大
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| 0:00 | It is my great pleasure to spend the next 40 minutes or so on stage with the most sought-after | 我很高兴能和最有追求的人 在舞台上度过40分钟左右 |
| 0:05 | guest that I think we've ever had in this hall. | 客人,我想我们在这个大厅里有过。 |
| 0:08 | Eileen, a warm welcome again, and thank you for choosing to spend time here at SMU. | Eileen 再次热烈欢迎你 谢谢你选择在这里呆上一段时间 |
| 0:13 | I know you have many, many engagements and we're delighted, more than delighted, that | 我知道你有很多,很多订婚 我们很高兴,更高兴的是, |
| 0:18 | you've chosen to spend the time with us. | 你选择和我们共度时光 |
| 0:19 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 0:21 | I believe that this is not your first time in Singapore, but you were perhaps a little | 我相信这不是你第一次来新加坡 但你也许有点 |
| 0:26 | bit younger when you were first here. | 你刚来的时候有点年轻 |
| 0:28 | And I know that the audience here would love to hear from you, so perhaps I could invite | 我知道这里的观众很想听到你的声音,所以也许我可以邀请 |
| 0:32 | you to say something, say a few words to the audience before we begin. | 在开始前,你对观众说几句 |
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| 1 | It is my great pleasure to spend the next 40 minutes or so on stage with the most sought-after | 我很高兴能和最有追求的人 在舞台上度过40分钟左右 |
| 2 | guest that I think we've ever had in this hall. | 客人,我想我们在这个大厅里有过。 |
| 3 | Eileen, a warm welcome again, and thank you for choosing to spend time here at SMU. | Eileen 再次热烈欢迎你 谢谢你选择在这里呆上一段时间 |
| 4 | I know you have many, many engagements and we're delighted, more than delighted, that | 我知道你有很多,很多订婚 我们很高兴,更高兴的是, |
| 5 | you've chosen to spend the time with us. | 你选择和我们共度时光 |
| 6 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 7 | I believe that this is not your first time in Singapore, but you were perhaps a little | 我相信这不是你第一次来新加坡 但你也许有点 |
| 8 | bit younger when you were first here. | 你刚来的时候有点年轻 |
| 9 | And I know that the audience here would love to hear from you, so perhaps I could invite | 我知道这里的观众很想听到你的声音,所以也许我可以邀请 |
| 10 | you to say something, say a few words to the audience before we begin. | 在开始前,你对观众说几句 |
| 11 | Thank you so much for the kind words, Professor Kong, and thank you so much for having me. | 多谢金刚教授的好言辞,也多谢你邀请我. |
| 12 | It's such a joy to be always in an academic institution. | 常在学府中,如此欢喜. |
| 13 | Like you said in your opening remarks, I think that schools are such a microcosm for human | 正如你在开场白中所说的 我认为学校是人类的缩影 |
| 14 | flourishing and it really is a place where our highest values are realized and we have | 繁荣,它确实是一个 实现我们最高价值的地方 我们拥有 |
| 15 | the opportunity and the options to become who we want to be, to explore the places that | 机会和选择 成为我们想要成为的人 探索那些 |
| 16 | we want to learn and the directions we want to expand. | 我们想要学习,想要扩大方向。 |
| 17 | So I always love speaking at schools and SMU in particular with its value on entrepreneurship | 所以我一直喜欢在学校和SMU演讲 尤其是讲讲讲它对于创业的价值 |
| 18 | and being so future-looking, I think, particularly appeals to me. | 并且如此的 未来,我认为, 特别吸引我。 |
| 19 | Singapore at large is such a future-looking place and so far in my short stay here this | 新加坡是个充满前途的地方 目前为止我在这里呆了很短的时间 |
| 20 | time it has been nothing short of incredible. | 时间是不可思议的。 |
| 21 | I look forward to exploring many more times in the future and I'm really looking forward | 我期待将来再探索很多次 我真的期待 |
| 22 | to our conversation today. | 今天的谈话。 |
| 23 | That's wonderful. | 这是美妙的。 |
| 24 | You know, there is so much ground we can cover. | 你知道,有很多地方我们可以覆盖。 |
| 25 | Before the event, we invited the audience to submit some questions and thoughts they | 在活动前,我们邀请观众提出一些问题和想法 |
| 26 | may have and I will say that we were inundated. | 也许有,我会说 我们被淹没。 |
| 27 | There were many, many interesting questions and interested members of the audience, so | 有很多有趣的问题 和感兴趣的观众,所以, |
| 28 | I'll do what I can to capture some of it and apologies to those of you whose questions | 我会尽我所能 捕捉到其中的一部分 并向那些有问题的人道歉 |
| 29 | may not be asked today. | 可能今天不问。 |
| 30 | I thought we might structure the conversation by beginning with perhaps more macro questions | 我想我们可以先从更宏观的问题开始 来安排对话 |
| 31 | and then I know that there is a lot of interest in you as an individual, so I hope you won't | 之后我知道,你作为一个个人 有很多兴趣,所以我希望你不会 |
| 32 | mind that we will progress the conversation towards perhaps more personal dimensions. | 记住,我们将把对话推进到也许更多的个人层面。 |
| 33 | You know, the university, as I said in my opening remarks, is an institution that cares | 正如我在开场白中所说 大学是一个关心 |
| 34 | about human potential, that really spends the time trying to bring the best out of each | 关于人的潜力, 这真的花时间 试图带来最好的 |
| 35 | individual. | 个人。 |
| 36 | I think it's fair to say that as an individual you have really epitomized what the flourishing | 我认为公平地说,作为一个个体,你已经 真正地体现了什么是繁荣 |
| 37 | of human potential means and you've done that in so many different dimensions, just to mention | 人的潜力, 你这样做 在许多不同的维度, 仅提及 |
| 38 | sport, which we all know about. | 体育,我们都知道。 |
| 39 | I watched the videos of you on the ski slopes and that's just so amazing, but you've also | 我在滑雪坡上看过你的视频 这太神奇了 但你也看过 |
| 40 | excelled in so many other dimensions, including in university. | 在包括大学在内的许多其他方面都表现出色。 |
| 41 | In sport we know what it means to train oneself, to push oneself physically, but you've also | 在运动中,我们知道 训练自己,锻炼身体的意义, 但你也 |
| 42 | talked about the possibility of training the mind and you talked about neuroplasticity | 谈到训练心灵的可能性 你谈到神经弹性 |
| 43 | and how we can better ourselves. | 以及我们如何改善自己。 |
| 44 | Perhaps you could speak to this question because I know there's a lot of interest in the audience | 也许你可以谈谈这个问题 因为我知道观众很感兴趣 |
| 45 | on this. | 这个 |
| 46 | What does that training of the mind, stretching our neuroplasticity, look like in everyday | 心灵的训练, 伸展我们的神经弹性, |
| 47 | life for any individual out here? | 一个人在这里的生活? |
| 48 | Wow, starting easy, huh? | 哇,开始容易,是吧? |
| 49 | Sure, I mean, I think that, look, I'm no expert. | 当然,我的意思是,我认为, 你看,我不是专家。 |
| 50 | I think, for me personally, it just comes to observation. | 我认为,对于我个人来说,这只是观察。 |
| 51 | So I try to be humble when it comes to my own mind and I don't pretend that I know all | 所以,我试着谦卑 当它涉及我自己的想法, 我不假装我知道所有 |
| 52 | the answers because I don't and because I'm 23 and because I'm learning and pretty much | 答案,因为我没有, 因为我23, 因为我正在学习和几乎很多 |
| 53 | everything that I'm doing is the first time that I'm experiencing it, right? | 我所做的一切都是我第一次经历,对吧? |
| 54 | By definition, to progress in the sport of free skiing is to ask your body to do something | 根据定义,自由滑雪运动的进步 就是让你的身体做点什么 |
| 55 | that it's never done before, ever. | 从来没有做过,从来没有。 |
| 56 | Every new trick that I learn, I'm breaking a physical, mental, emotional boundary that | 我学到的每一个新技巧 都打破了生理、心理、情感的界限 |
| 57 | had been set for me before, or it's breaking new ground every time. | 或者它每次都在开拓新的领域 |
| 58 | And so conceptually, I think that familiarizing yourself with discomfort and also knowing | 所以,在概念上,我认为, 熟悉自己 不舒服和知道 |
| 59 | that almost every boundary is somewhat plastic, so that there always is potential to expand, | 几乎每个边界都有一定的塑性 这样就永远有扩张的潜力 |
| 60 | that there always is potential to grow and change, and so that just comes back to self-observation. | 总是有增长和变化的潜力, 从而回到自我观察。 |
| 61 | So how do I feel in a given moment? | 我在一个特定时刻的感觉如何? |
| 62 | What does fear feel like? | 恐惧是什么感觉? |
| 63 | What does doubt feel like? | 怀疑是什么感觉? |
| 64 | What do nerves feel like? | 神经是什么感觉? |
| 65 | How are those three things different? | 这三件事有什么不同? |
| 66 | What is pressure? | 什么是压力? |
| 67 | What do I care about? | 我关心什么? |
| 68 | What are the things that can affect me? | 能影响我的东西是什么? |
| 69 | What is the direction I want to move in? | 我想搬进去的方向是什么? |
| 70 | And I think those are all kind of, as with the scientific method, it's all just experimentation | 我觉得这些都是科学方法 都只是实验 |
| 71 | and it's figuring out who I am, what are the things I care about, and then what is the | 它正在找出我是谁, 什么是我关心的东西,然后是什么 |
| 72 | direction I want to move in. | 我想进入方向 |
| 73 | And so to be neuroplastic, I think is to be the master of your fate in so far as knowing | 所以,为了神经塑料,我认为是 成为掌握你的命运的主人 在知道 |
| 74 | that I can observe myself and that I can control the direction of my growth. | 我可以观察自己,我可以控制我的成长方向。 |
| 75 | That's amazing because very often I think for young people and not so young people, | 太神奇了,因为我常常为年轻人着想 而不是这么年轻 |
| 76 | sometimes we are carried by the trajectories, we are carried by the pathways that have been | 有时我们由轨迹所承载, 我们由曾经的路径所承载 |
| 77 | established and to be very intentional and conscious about asking ourselves who we are, | 并且非常有意识地问我们自己是谁, |
| 78 | what we want to do, takes something of the individual. | 我们想做什么, 取个人的东西。 |
| 79 | There is no conversation today without two letters of the alphabet, and yes, I'm talking | 今天没有字母表的两个字母 就没有对话了 |
| 80 | 关于AI. | |
| 81 | When you think about that intentionality, that cultivation of self, and you think about | 当你想到这种故意, 自我的培养,你思考 |
| 82 | what's available through AI where what we do is type a question, send a prompt, and | 通过人工智能可以找到的 我们做的是输入一个问题, 发送一个快速, |
| 83 | the answers come back, is there a danger that that is doing something to our neuroplasticity? | 答案又回来了,有没有危险 那对我们的神经弹性有什么影响? |
| 84 | Is there a danger that that is sort of reshaping our ability to think for ourselves and to | 是否有危险 那种重塑 我们的能力 为自己思考 |
| 85 | forge our paths? | 伪造我们的道路? |
| 86 | I wonder what you think about that. | 我想知道你对此有什么看法 |
| 87 | I'm going to go ahead and take the opportunity that we are in a university to be my truest, | 我要趁着上大学的机会 成为我最真诚的人 |
| 88 | nerdiest self today, so I hope you guys will forgive me for that. | 希望你们能原谅我 |
| 89 | So I trust that people are probably familiar with the Descartes aphorism of cogito erogosum, | 所以我相信人们可能很熟悉笛卡尔的代词 cogito erogosum, |
| 90 | like I think therefore I am, but the kind of phrase that comes before that is I doubt | 就像我想的,所以我是, 但那种短语 之前,我怀疑 |
| 91 | therefore I think, and I think therefore I am, and I think there's something really | 所以我想,所以我认为我是, 我认为有东西真的 |
| 92 | interesting about that. | 这很有趣。 |
| 93 | In order to, I guess to your point about prompting AI, you have to make a judgement decision | 为了促使人工智能,你必须做出判决 |
| 94 | at any point, right? | 在任何时间,对不对? |
| 95 | And so in order to write a good prompt or to make a good decision from the information | 因此,为了写出一个好的即时 或者从信息做出一个好的决定 |
| 96 | that you gather from the prompt or to direct an agent, you have to have the ability to | 即时收集或指挥特工,你必须有能力 |
| 97 | start from doubt and to start from self-informed thinking. | 从怀疑开始,从自我知情的思维开始。 |
| 98 | And so if anything, I think learning to work or learning to produce through the form of | 所以,如果有什么, 我认为学习工作 或者学习生产 |
| 99 | asking questions is actually encouraging human agency because that is the Socratic method, | 问问题其实是鼓励人心 因为那是苏克拉底的方法 |
| 100 | that is the scientific method, that is kind of what we think about as human learning. | 这就是科学方法, 也就是我们对人类学习的看法。 |
| 101 | Is it not to ask a question, to think about how to structure a question, what is first | 难道它不问一个问题, 思考如何构建一个问题, 什么是第一 |
| 102 | principles thinking, to kind of go back and see what matters and then move from there, | 原则思考, 那种回去 看看什么是重要的,然后从那里移动, |
| 103 | and then also to kind of make informed decisions and what you do from there. | 然后做一些明智的决定 以及你从那里做的工作 |
| 104 | So I guess I'm kind of cautious about the whole like delegating your life to AI premise, | 我想我有点谨慎 就像把你的生命交给AI前提 |
| 105 | just because to use kind of like a metaphor in skiing, I guess, we recently have a new | 我想我们最近有了新的 |
| 106 | technology called an airbag, which is like a giant bouncy castle. | 被称为气囊的技术, 它就像一个巨大的弹跳城堡。 |
| 107 | So it's like this, if you imagine it's like a ski slope, but the landing is like literally | 所以,这是这样的,如果你想象 它像滑雪坡, 但着陆像字面 |
| 108 | plastic material and they spray water on it, and you jump off of this like plastic ramp, | 塑料材料,他们喷水在上面, 你跳下来 像塑料坡道, |
| 109 | you fly in the air, you do your trick, you land and it's plastic and you slide, okay? | 你飞在空中,你做你的伎俩, 你着陆 它的塑料,你滑行,好吗? |
| 110 | And initially people were like, this is crazy, this is not even skiing, and then you realize | 一开始人们喜欢,这是疯狂的, 这甚至不是滑雪, 然后你意识到 |
| 111 | that because this is much safer as a technology, suddenly people are doing much bigger tricks | 因为这比科技安全得多 突然有人在耍更大的把戏 |
| 112 | and the sport is progressing so much more rapidly and people are kind of doing things | 运动进展如此之快 人们在做事 |
| 113 | that they never thought would have been possible. | 他们从未想过是可能的。 |
| 114 | And what ended up happening is not that we reached some kind of capped human potential | 结果不是我们达到某种极限 |
| 115 | and we were like taken over, instead it was that the women in sport started really, really | 我们就像接管了, 相反,运动中的女人 开始真的,真的 |
| 116 | progressing and the kind of level all over started rising and we had the freedom to explore | 进步和水平开始上升 我们有自由探索 |
| 117 | tricks that had never been possible before, new axes, we could try things and work with | 之前从未有过的诡计,新斧头, 我们可以尝试的东西和工作 |
| 118 | human physics in ways that we never thought was possible. | 人类物理学以我们从未想到的方式是可能的。 |
| 119 | So I think that it is the human condition to be curious and I think it is the human | 所以我觉得好奇是人类的条件 我认为是人类 |
| 120 | condition to progress and improve and I think that the methodology of asking questions to | 我认为提出问题的方法 |
| 121 | do that is fundamentally a positive one. | 这样做基本上是积极的。 |
| 122 | Indeed, so I have had colleagues who have rejected AI saying we've taught the Socratic | 我曾经有同事拒绝AI说 我们教过索克拉底人 |
| 123 | method for centuries and why are we dropping that, but I think your response suggests | 几个世纪以来,我们为什么放弃这个方法, 但我认为你的反应表明 |
| 124 | to us that actually with the use of AI, you can actually strengthen, hone that questioning | 对我们来说,通过使用人工智能, 你实际上可以加强, |
| 125 | ability in today's language, it would be writing better prompts. | 在今天的语境中 写得更好 |
| 126 | I wanted to nevertheless pursue this line of conversation around neuroplasticity a little | 不过,我还是想继续 围绕神经塑性进行这种对话 |
| 127 | bit more and then I'd really like to come back to technology and sport which is a good | 再多一点,然后我真的想回到 科技和体育,这是一个好 |
| 128 | segue from your comments a moment ago. | 从刚才你的评论中可以看出来。 |
| 129 | You talked about training your own mind very deliberately and you do that through things | 你说过要训练你自己的头脑 故意的,你这样做的事情 |
| 130 | like journaling, reframing fear, visualisation and so forth, do you see a time when that | 像是日记、恐惧、视觉等等, |
| 131 | can be delegated to a machine, for example? | 例如,可以委托给机器? |
| 132 | I think the frameworks, maybe, I think that there are ways that you can optimise and that | 我认为框架,也许, 我认为有方法 你可以优化和 |
| 133 | you can maybe get more data, that you can be better informed. | 你也许可以得到更多的数据, 你可以得到更好的信息。 |
| 134 | Fundamentally, the work of getting to know oneself will always remain your own and the | 从根本上说,了解自己的工作将永远是你自己的, |
| 135 | choice to become the person you want to be has to be yours and I think in any other way | 选择成为你想成为的人 必须成为你的 我想其他方式 |
| 136 | it would be contrived and corrupted and so in some ways, yes, like maybe if you want | 它会被精心策划和腐化 所以在某些方面,是的,也许你想 |
| 137 | to be directed in a certain way, you can kind of find ways to structure actions that help | 以某种方式引导,你可以找到一些方法 来构建帮助 |
| 138 | lead to an outcome of your choosing but I think at a large scale, I don't think that | 导致你选择的结果 但我认为 大规模,我不认为 |
| 139 | that is something that can be replaced, no. | 这是可以替换的东西,没有。 |
| 140 | And that, I think, suggests, you know, if we can't replace certain things and I think | 我认为 如果我们不能替换某些东西 我认为 |
| 141 | I very much agree with you on that, it also means that the struggle that we go through | 我非常同意你的观点 这也意味着我们所经历的斗争 |
| 142 | in learning, where we kind of get frustrated sometimes because we're not getting it just | 在学习中,我们有时会感到沮丧,因为我们不能得到它 |
| 143 | as it is and so forth, that struggle is what helps us to learn, I think. | 我认为,这场斗争有助于我们学习。 |
| 144 | And that's true whether in sport or in the classroom and so forth. | 无论是在运动还是在课堂上等等,都是如此。 |
| 145 | Is there a danger of us losing that struggle because things become too easy with AI? | 我们输掉这场斗争有危险吗? |
| 146 | I think not. | 我想没有。 |
| 147 | I think that as the pace picks up, I think it's more of a question of pace as opposed | 我认为随着速度的加快 我认为这更是一个速度问题而不是 |
| 148 | to kind of replacement, if that makes sense. | 如果有道理的话 就换人 |
| 149 | So it's like if we have this tool that enables us to be higher efficiency or more capable, | 所以,它就像如果我们有这个工具 使我们能够提高效率或更有能力, |
| 150 | it means we're able to do more things. | 这意味着我们可以做更多的事情。 |
| 151 | If anything, I feel like the struggle would probably increase in that situation. | 如果有的话,我觉得在那种情况下斗争可能会增加。 |
| 152 | A lot of people ask me, so I graduated or I walked to graduation this year in June for | 很多人问我,所以我毕业了 或者今年六月我走到毕业 |
| 153 | Stanford and then after graduation everyone was like, wow, you must have so much free | 斯坦福大学毕业后 大家都说,哇,你一定很自由 |
| 154 | time now that you're out of school. | 时间,现在你离开学校。 |
| 155 | And I find myself busier than ever. | 我发现自己比以往更忙 |
| 156 | I find that my time is more consumed than ever. | 我发现我的时间比以往更消耗 |
| 157 | I am more applied than ever. | 我比以前更受欢迎 |
| 158 | And so the concept of like the hedonic treadmill where we adapt to our circumstances, be it | 因此,我们适应环境的 狂飙跑步机的概念, 无论是它 |
| 159 | through joy or be it through work or through a kind of like a temporal reckoning sense, | 欢乐或工作 或像时间计算感, |
| 160 | through all of that, we adapt really quickly, like much quicker than I think people expect. | 通过所有这些,我们适应的很快, 像比我想的要快得多。 |
| 161 | So as far as like getting used to that pace, I think it's more of like a relative calibration | 所以,就如适应这个速度, 我认为它更像一个相对的校准 |
| 162 | and less of a like do all or nothing and then I'm replaced and I have nothing to do. | 少了一个像做所有或什么, 然后,我被替换,我无所事事。 |
| 163 | I think people will get used to it quickly and then move even faster than before. | 我想人们会很快习惯它,然后移动比以前更快. |
| 164 | Wonderful. | 真不错 |
| 165 | I'd like to pick up on the thread of your comments earlier about sport and technology. | 我想听听你早些时候关于体育和技术的评论 |
| 166 | And we know that sport is not short of technology. | 我们知道,体育并非缺乏技术。 |
| 167 | You've given us examples. | 你给我们举了个例子 |
| 168 | That's also the use of data analytics to improve performance and so forth, right? | 这也是利用数据分析来提高性能,对吧? |
| 169 | Where do you think we draw the line between technology and human potential? | 你认为我们如何划分 技术和人类潜力的界限? |
| 170 | What should remain a test of the athlete rather than the technology? | 什么是应该仍然是对运动员而不是技术的考验? |
| 171 | I think split second judgment decisions. | 我觉得第二次判决是分开的 |
| 172 | I think intuition around fear, like to push or not to push in a certain given moment. | 我认为直觉围绕恐惧, 喜欢推或不推 在某个特定的时刻。 |
| 173 | They're pretty much I think in the sport of free skiing because everything is so like | 我觉得他们几乎是免费滑雪运动 因为一切就像 |
| 174 | the margins are so narrow between absolute success and massive failure that that judgment | 绝对成功和大规模失败之间的距离太窄了 以至于这个判断 |
| 175 | decision is absolutely critical. | 决策是绝对关键的。 |
| 176 | I can be at the top of a run and be just feeling slightly off. | 我可以在跑步的顶端, 只是感觉有点离谱。 |
| 177 | And every single data analytic could be telling me, go, you slept great last night. | 每一个数据分析都可能告诉我 你昨晚睡得很好 |
| 178 | Your heart rate looks good. | 你的心率不错 |
| 179 | We think your HRV looks fantastic. | 我们认为你的HRV看起来很棒。 |
| 180 | Like you're ready to go. | 就像你准备好了一样 |
| 181 | And at the end of the day, if I don't believe if my subconscious is not bought in, | 最终 如果我不相信我的潜意识不被收买 |
| 182 | the trick is not happening. | 诡计不会发生 |
| 183 | And that's a self-reinforcing cycle. | 则自增循环. |
| 184 | Like if I don't believe it'll happen, there is so much of skiing that I think embodies | 碞钩иぃ獺穦祇瞷妓 )Τ ski |
| 185 | this like you will it into reality. | 像你这样会变成现实 |
| 186 | Like it only happens because you believe it. | 就像它只是因为你相信它。 |
| 187 | And if you don't believe it, it cannot happen. | 如果你不相信,它不会发生。 |
| 188 | And so that element, I think, is fundamentally irreplaceable. | 因此,我认为,这一要素是根本不可替代的。 |
| 189 | So it's like this gut feeling, it's intuition. | 就像这种直觉 直觉 |
| 190 | And more than anything, I think it's like familiarity and intimacy with the self. | 更重要的是,我觉得这就像熟悉和亲近自己。 |
| 191 | And, you know, that's a great answer because I think it extends beyond sport as well. | 而且,你知道,这是一个伟大的答案,因为我认为它 超越运动。 |
| 192 | In all that we do in life, sometimes the necessity to make that decision in a split | 我们生活中所做的一切 有时需要分头做决定 |
| 193 | second, that's going to just make that difference. | 第二,那只会改变这一点。 |
| 194 | That belief in yourself, that's just going to make it happen where the data tells you | 相信自己 就能让数据告诉你 |
| 195 | it's not. | 这不是。 |
| 196 | So these are things I believe extend beyond the ski slopes into mirrored dimensions of | 因此,我认为这些东西 超越滑雪坡 到镜像的维度 |
| 197 | our lives. | 我们的生活。 |
| 198 | And so to that extent, I think what Eileen has done is actually to answer a question | 因此,在这个程度上,我认为艾琳所做的其实是回答一个问题 |
| 199 | from one of our students, Yen Ren, who is doing her DBA in technology. | 我们的一个学生Yen Ren 正在做她的DBA技术。 |
| 200 | And she had asked the question, what do you think AI will never be able to replace about | 她曾经问过一个问题 你觉得AI永远无法取代 |
| 201 | elite human performance? | 精英人类的表演? |
| 202 | And I think your response earlier speaks to that. | 我认为你早些时候的反应就说明了这一点。 |
| 203 | There is another question from a colleague, Christina Chi, who asks what technology or | 还有一个问题来自同事克里斯蒂娜·齐,他问什么技术或 |
| 204 | innovation has had the biggest impact on your training and performance? | 创新对你的培训和业绩产生了最大的影响? |
| 205 | And how do you think athletes of the future will train differently? | 你觉得未来的运动员会怎样训练? |
| 206 | Hmm. | 是吗? |
| 207 | Besides airbags, which I mentioned earlier, honestly, video review is the biggest thing. | 除了我之前提到的气囊之外 视频评论是最大的 |
| 208 | Like being able to watch yourself in slow motion really captures a lot of this kind | 就像能观察自己慢动作一样 能够捕捉到很多这种东西 |
| 209 | of like micro neuromuscular movement that you otherwise wouldn't be able to feel. | 就像微神经肌肉运动 否则你无法感觉到 |
| 210 | And then also, a lot of the time, how you feel is different than what is true. | 还有,很多时候,你的感觉和真实不同。 |
| 211 | And so kind of bridging that gap from an objective perspective through video review | 通过视频评论从客观角度弥合这种差距 |
| 212 | is enormously helpful. | 很有帮助 |
| 213 | I would imagine that there's going to be a lot more force analytic data in the future. | 我想象未来会有更多的强力分析数据。 |
| 214 | So force generation, asymmetry, as far as technical ability goes. | 因此,力量的生成,不对称,就技术能力而言。 |
| 215 | Right now, there's not a whole lot of that. | 现在,还没有很多。 |
| 216 | But I'm also not really yearning for it. | 但我也没有真正渴望它。 |
| 217 | I feel like there's something kind of fun in just figuring it out. | 我觉得有 某种有趣的事情 只是找出它。 |
| 218 | And so I'm relishing in the puzzle of all that is. | 所以我喜欢所有事物的谜题。 |
| 219 | And also, it's kind of fun about being at the cutting edge of a sport. | 而且,在运动的前沿也很有趣。 |
| 220 | It's like every time you do something new, | 就像每次你做新的事情, |
| 221 | sometimes it's the first time that anyone ever has done something. | 有时候,这是第一次 任何人曾经做过什么。 |
| 222 | And so there's something really exciting about that. | 所以有件事非常令人兴奋。 |
| 223 | And feeling like you're figuring it out as you go. | 感觉就像你正在想明白一样 |
| 224 | That's wonderful. | 这是美妙的。 |
| 225 | We started the conversation with human potential. | 我们以人类的潜力开始了对话。 |
| 226 | And that does rely on talent realized. | 这的确依赖于所实现的人才。 |
| 227 | Realizing one's human potential is about realizing one's talent. | 实现一个人的潜能就是实现一个人的才华. |
| 228 | I wanted to begin a conversation thread around whether you thought talent is innate | 我想开始讨论你是否认为天赋是天生的 |
| 229 | or whether that's cultivated and developed and the relative balance of that. | 或者这是否得到培养和发展 以及相对的平衡 |
| 230 | I'm going to say that talent stands a very, very, very small portion, | 我要说,天赋 是一个非常,非常,非常小的部分, |
| 231 | particularly the older you get. | 尤其是年纪越大 |
| 232 | Just because the number of decisions that you make compounds exponentially over time. | 只是因为你做出的决定数量 在一段时间里成倍增加。 |
| 233 | And so maybe when you're three years old, the talent, | 所以也许当你三岁时 才华横溢 |
| 234 | you can see that difference a lot more than when you're 30. | 你比30岁的时候能看出的差别 |
| 235 | I don't know, I'm not there yet, but I'll report back. | 我不知道,我还没有到那里, 但我会报告。 |
| 236 | But the kind of idea that I think between talent and hard work is that | 但那种想法 我认为在人才和辛勤工作 |
| 237 | if you tell yourself that you have a ceiling or | 如果你告诉自己你有天花板 |
| 238 | if you tell yourself that you have a floor, | 如果你告诉自己,你有座位, |
| 239 | just be careful with the kind of premises that you believe. | 要小心你相信的那种前提 |
| 240 | And I think what's more important about the empirical reality of either of those | 我认为更重要的是 任何一种经验现实 |
| 241 | things is how it informs your decisions going forward. | 事情是它如何指导 你的决定前进。 |
| 242 | Because we are all just a collection of all the decisions we've ever made. | 因为我们都是我们所有的决定的集合 |
| 243 | And so if we make those decisions with an assumption that fundamentally limits us, | 所以,如果我们做出这些决定时 假设根本上限制了我们, |
| 244 | then that is more detrimental than any lack of talent could ever be. | 那比没有人才更有害 |
| 245 | And so maybe this is kind of the set of cards that I've been dealt. | 因此,也许这是一种 套牌,我已经处理。 |
| 246 | But if I spend the whole time looking at my hand and I never play them, | 但如果我整天看着我的手 从来不玩 |
| 247 | then it doesn't matter what I'm holding. | 我拿着什么不重要 |
| 248 | What matters is that you take a step and one step leads to two. | 重要的是你迈出一步,一步导致两步。 |
| 249 | And as long as you keep moving and keep being better than who you were yesterday, | 只要你继续移动 并保持比昨天的你更好的, |
| 250 | then it's not really a question of what hands you had to begin with. | 那么,这不是一个真正的问题 你从什么手开始。 |
| 251 | It's about where you end up and who you end up becoming. | 是关于你最终的结局 以及你最终成为谁 |
| 252 | And in that journey to whatever end point it is that one identifies for oneself, | 在那段旅程中,无论走到什么终点 都会发现自己 |
| 253 | it requires that we have building conditions. | 这要求我们有建筑条件。 |
| 254 | It requires that we have environment, supportive people and so forth. | 它要求我们有环境、有支持的人等等。 |
| 255 | And so I have a question here from Cheryl Lee, who's an SMU alum from 2011. | 谢丽尔·李给我问了个问题,他是2011年的SMU校友。 |
| 256 | And she was curious to know how much of your excellence has been shaped by your | 她好奇地知道你的优秀成就 有多少是由你的 |
| 257 | mother in particular and the environment she created and how that helped develop | 特别是母亲,以及她创造的环境和如何帮助发展 |
| 258 | your intrinsic drive or perhaps the intrinsic drive was there to start off. | 你的内在驱动器 或也许内在驱动器 在那里开始。 |
| 259 | Yeah, so my mom's the best, for sure. | 是啊,所以我妈妈是最好的,当然。 |
| 260 | Like, let's just get that off the table. | 喜欢,让我们只是 把桌子。 |
| 261 | That's like no question. | 这就像没有问题。 |
| 262 | So she's here, she looks great. | 所以她在这里,她看起来很棒。 |
| 263 | She婆在前. | |
| 264 | Everyone tell her she looks pretty. | 大家都告诉她她很漂亮 |
| 265 | So yeah, absolutely. | 所以,是的,绝对。 |
| 266 | I think that so she would always say that up until I was 13, I was her job. | 我想她会一直这么说 直到我13岁,我是她的工作 |
| 267 | And then after I turned 13, I was the job of the world. | 13岁之后,我成为了世界的工作。 |
| 268 | And that just means that like beyond a certain point, you are more created by your peer | 那只是意味着,像超越某一点, 你更多的由你的同伴创造 |
| 269 | group, by your environment, by the people who you look up to, by the media you consume, | 团体,以你的环境, 由你所仰望的人, 通过媒体,你消耗, |
| 270 | by the beliefs that you hold versus your home and family life directly. | 根据你对家庭和家庭生活的信念 |
| 271 | But I've been really lucky insofar that I've had this very unique partnership through | 但我真的很幸运,因为 我有一个非常独特的伙伴关系 通过 |
| 272 | the course of my life that has constantly evolved. | 我一生中不断进化的过程 |
| 273 | And we always have had kind of different roles. | 我们一直扮演着不同的角色。 |
| 274 | So like, obviously, when I was three, she was my mom. | 所以,很明显,当我三岁时, 她是我妈妈。 |
| 275 | So she was taking me to the playground. | 所以她带我去游乐场 |
| 276 | And I think she really optimized for play and she optimized for optionality. | 我认为她真的优化了游戏, 她优化了选择。 |
| 277 | So she put me into everything. | 所以她把我带入一切 |
| 278 | Like, I'm literally talking about everything like ballet, piano, archery, because I had | 喜欢,我字面上谈论的一切 像芭蕾,钢琴,箭术, 因为我有 |
| 279 | an archery phase because I was really into dystopian novels. | 射箭的阶段,因为我真的 喜欢堤岸小说。 |
| 280 | And I thought that this was going to be like a skill that I was really going to need. | 我认为这将会成为我真正需要的技能。 |
| 281 | So archery, basketball, soccer, cross-country skiing. | 射箭 篮球 足球 越野滑雪 |
| 282 | I did math camp. | 我做了数学营。 |
| 283 | I did science camp. | 我做了科学营。 |
| 284 | I did singing lessons against my will. | 我违反我的意愿唱歌 |
| 285 | There were lots of things. | 有很多东西 |
| 286 | Right. | 对 |
| 287 | And so the point being that when I was younger, she really gave me the full spread so that | 重点是我年轻的时候 她真的给了我全部的传播 |
| 288 | when I was older and when I knew myself better and when I was responsible to make those decisions, | 当我年长的时候 当我更了解自己 当我有责任做出这些决定的时候 |
| 289 | I could make an informed one having tried all the options. | 我可以让一个知情的人 尝试所有的选择。 |
| 290 | So when I was young, she gave me the choices. | 所以当我年轻时,她给了我选择。 |
| 291 | And then when I was a little bit older, she gave me the freedom to make the choice. | 后来我年纪稍大,她给了我做选择的自由. |
| 292 | And I think that responsibility that she really entrusted me with from a somewhat young age, | 我觉得她从小就真正委托给我的责任 |
| 293 | I think that was critical and really fundamental. | 我认为这是关键和真正根本性的。 |
| 294 | A lot of people make the incorrect assumption that she's a tiger mom. | 很多人都认为她是虎妈妈 |
| 295 | And I think the tiger mom definition is that it's like a helicopter parent that pilots | 我觉得老虎妈妈的定义是 就像一个直升机家长的飞行员 |
| 296 | you and forces you to do various things. | 强迫你做各种事情 |
| 297 | She was in many ways the opposite of that, where she just vigorously provided me with | 在很多方面,她正好相反, 她只是大力提供我 |
| 298 | freedom and agency and enforced my freedom really intensely. | 自由与代理, 并非常强烈地执行我的自由。 |
| 299 | And that was like the effect of her tiger mom. | 这就像她老虎妈妈的效果 |
| 300 | So that was kind of like the parenting thesis. | 所以,这有点像 育儿论文。 |
| 301 | And then as I got older, I keep calling us co-founders because I really think that's | 后来我长大了,我一直叫我们联合创始人 因为我真的觉得 |
| 302 | like the best way to encapsulate our partnership. | 就像我们合作的最好方式 |
| 303 | We travel together every day. | 我们每天都一起旅行 |
| 304 | We live together. | 我们住在一起。 |
| 305 | We work together. | 我们一起工作 |
| 306 | We develop together. | 我们一起发展。 |
| 307 | We change together. | 我们一起改变 |
| 308 | We evolve. | 我们进化。 |
| 309 | And she is a science background. | 她是一个科学背景。 |
| 310 | So neither of us really knows how to, you know, it's my first time living. | 所以,我们都没有真正知道如何, 你知道,这是我第一次生活。 |
| 311 | She hasn't worked in these industries before. | 她以前从未在这些行业工作过. |
| 312 | And so we're both just figuring it out day by day. | 所以我们每天都在想 |
| 313 | We come in with unique perspectives and, most importantly, a respect for one another. | 我们带着独特的观点,最重要的是相互尊重。 |
| 314 | We have dialogue that is respectful, that is critical, that is conducive, that is productive. | 我们有尊重、关键、有利、富有成效的对话。 |
| 315 | And oftentimes we will start from kind of two different points where we disagree. | 我们常常会从两个不同的点开始, 我们不同意。 |
| 316 | And then we will debate, debate, debate, debate, converge, debate, debate, debate, and then | 然后,我们将辩论、辩论、辩论、辩论、辩论、辩论、辩论、辩论,然后, |
| 317 | end up on opposite ends. | 终归是相反的结局。 |
| 318 | So like I will have the opinion that she started with and then she'll have the opinion that | 所以我会觉得她从头开始 然后她就会认为 |
| 319 | I started with. | 我从头开始的 |
| 320 | And then we will have to repeat the process where we debate, debate, debate, and go back | 然后,我们将不得不重复我们辩论、辩论、辩论和返回的过程。 |
| 321 | to our original premises. | 我们的原址。 |
| 322 | So I think, if anything, that just illustrates that she really gave me the freedom to find | 所以我想,如果有的话,那只是说明 她真的给了我寻找的自由 |
| 323 | out who I am and to really support me and to guide me in ways that make sense. | 并真正地支持我 并引导我以合理的方式。 |
| 324 | And at the same time, to grow beside me. | 同时,在我身边成长 |
| 325 | She's also living for the first time. | 她也是第一次活着 |
| 326 | She is a unique person who is more than just the role of mom. | 她是个独一无二的人 她不只是妈妈的角色 |
| 327 | And so to kind of grow with her as we both come into adulthood, or I guess as I am in | 这样我们长大成人的时候 就会和她一起长大 或者我猜 |
| 328 | adulthood and she continues in adulthood, but kind of like growing together. | 成年后,她继续成长, 但有点像一起成长。 |
| 329 | And there's something really exciting and really fun about that. | 有一些非常刺激和有趣的东西。 |
| 330 | And to do it with my mom, who's someone who I trust entirely, who's known me my whole | 和我妈妈做这件事,谁是我完全信任的人, 谁知道我的全部 |
| 331 | life, who wants nothing but the best for me, I think that's a unique privilege that I'm | 生活,谁什么都不想要,但最好的对我来说, 我认为这是一个独特的特权,我是 |
| 332 | really grateful to have. | 真的很感谢有。 |
| 333 | I want to say, yes, please, I just want to say how amazing a mother you have. | 我想说,是的,请, 我只想说,你有一个多么惊人的母亲。 |
| 334 | And Madam Lu, I want to say how amazing a daughter you have. | 还有夫人 鲁,我想说,你的女儿多么神奇 |
| 335 | You know, not everybody finds themselves in such circumstances where there is a supportive | 你知道,不是每个人都发现自己 在这种情况下 有支持 |
| 336 | parent who is able, willing to give the time, the care, or a coach of access to facilities, | 能够、愿意给予时间、照顾或获得设施指导的家长, |
| 337 | which means that if somebody has the potential but doesn't have the building conditions, | 这意味着,如果有人有潜力,但没有建筑条件, |
| 338 | it can be very difficult for the individual to find himself or herself. | 个人很难找到自己 |
| 339 | What advice or what insights might you share with individuals who find themselves in these | 你可与那些发现自己身处此地的人分享哪些建议或见解 |
| 340 | situations and how might you encourage them? | 情况如何? |
| 341 | Sure. | 当然 |
| 342 | I'm not good at skiing because I'm good at doing double quirks. | 我不擅长滑雪,因为我擅长做双曲棍球. |
| 343 | I'm good at skiing because I know how to learn and because I'm resilient in the face of failure | 我擅长滑雪,因为我知道如何学习 也因为面对失败,我有弹性 |
| 344 | and because in moments of doubt, I know which threads to pull on and how to manipulate my | 因为在疑惑的时刻 我知道要靠哪条线 如何操纵我 |
| 345 | own intuition to guide me in the direction that I want to go. | 自己的直觉引导我走向我想走的方向。 |
| 346 | My point is that skills are transferable, so many of us will often find ourselves in | 我想说的是技能是可以转移的 所以很多人会发现自己在 |
| 347 | situations where it's our first time doing something. | 我们第一次有所作为 |
| 348 | And it is not the hard skill that is necessarily the one that defines us, it's the ability | 并不是硬技能是决定我们的能力 |
| 349 | and our intrinsic qualities and values and skill set that we bring into the situation | 我们的内在品质、价值观和技能 |
| 350 | that allows us to adapt and shape a situation to our will. | 这使我们能够适应和塑造一个符合我们意愿的局势。 |
| 351 | And so I think what's important to remember is like going into it, you know, I've never | 所以,我认为重要的是要记住 就像进入它,你知道,我从来没有 |
| 352 | done this sport before or I've never raised my hand in class before or I've never sat | 之前做这个运动 或者我从来没有在课堂上举手 或者我从来没有坐过 |
| 353 | next to this person at lunch before. | 旁边的这个人在午餐之前。 |
| 354 | Yeah, but have you talked to a person? | 是的,但你有没有和一个人谈过? |
| 355 | Have you ever done something that made you nervous? | 你做过让你紧张的事吗? |
| 356 | Yes. | 对 |
| 357 | So these are all skills that you can apply to new situations and so that's why I always | 所以,这些都是技能 你可以应用到新的情况 所以我总是 |
| 358 | come back to this point of it's so important to know who you are because that's your toolkit. | 回到这个点上 知道你是谁非常重要 因为那是你的工具包 |
| 359 | Your toolkit is not the set of hard skills that you acquire over the course of your life, | 你的工具包不是你一生中获得的硬技能 |
| 360 | although those are obviously very helpful and can, you know, continue to inform the | 尽管这些显然很有帮助,并且可以继续通报 |
| 361 | conditions that make you who you are. | 条件让你成为自己 |
| 362 | But to know what you come into a situation with because our strengths are the differences | 但想知道你遇到什么 因为我们的长处是不同的 |
| 363 | that we have and that's what makes any situation unique and interesting. | 我们拥有,这就是 任何情况的独特和有趣的。 |
| 364 | Because everybody has a different perspective, everybody has a different toolkit, so the | 因为每个人都有不同的视角, 每个人都有一个不同的工具包,所以 |
| 365 | better you know what you have, the more you can actually provide value for any situation | 你越知道自己有什么 就越能为任何情况提供价值 |
| 366 | that you're in. | 你加入我们了 |
| 367 | Because you want to provide, you want to make something better and only you can do it because | 因为你想要提供,你想 做更好的东西,只有你能做到这一点,因为 |
| 368 | only you have those skills. | 只有你才有这些技能 |
| 369 | So yeah, I think that everybody has inherent value irrespective of kind of this, you know, | 所以,是的,我想每个人都有内在的价值 不管这种,你知道, |
| 370 | bedrock or the foundations from which they rose. | 基础或他们崛起的基础。 |
| 371 | It's a good segue. | 善修习. |
| 372 | You know, we've been talking about systems of support, but also discovering one's self, | 你知道,我们一直在谈论 支持系统, 但也发现一个人的自我, |
| 373 | one's skills, developing one's own toolkit and so forth. | 开发自己的工具箱等等 |
| 374 | But if we can help design an ecosystem that is to support the next generation, what might | 但是如果我们能帮助设计一个生态系统 支持下一代,什么可能 |
| 375 | that ecosystem look like? | 生态系统看起来像? |
| 376 | What are the elements of an ecosystem can be designed to help other people succeed? | 生态系统有哪些要素可以用来帮助其他人取得成功? |
| 377 | A few things. | 略举几事. |
| 378 | I think one is mutual respect. | 我认为一个是相互尊重。 |
| 379 | That's really, really important for anything to succeed to and that extends beyond just | 这真的,真的很重要 对于任何成功 和延伸 超越只是 |
| 380 | like the right for someone to exist, but it's also like genuinely giving space for someone's | 就像一个人存在的权利, 但它也像真正给某人的空间 |
| 381 | input and perspective and not holding a value system for whose voice is louder than someone | 输入和视角,不持有一个声音比某人大的价值系统 |
| 382 | else, whose opinions are more important than someone else. | 他们的意见比别人更重要 |
| 383 | Everybody has something unique to say and to provide. | 每个人都有独特的话要说 和提供。 |
| 384 | And so I think bringing that student mentality into every interaction you have and really | 所以我想把学生的心态 带进你的一切互动中 |
| 385 | trying to say, okay, what can I learn from this encounter? | 我想说,好吧,我能从这次会面中学到什么? |
| 386 | I think that's really important. | 我觉得这很重要 |
| 387 | Secondly, I think curiosity is really important. | 第二,我觉得好奇心真的很重要。 |
| 388 | So just always holding a microscope to all the things in life and coming back to the | 所以只要一直拿着显微镜 观察生活中的一切 然后回到 |
| 389 | point in AI, that's a great tool to have to enable curiosity and to really just superpower | 在AI中,这是一个伟大的工具 需要激发好奇心 和真正的超级力量 |
| 390 | it and so I think that's super important. | 我觉得这很重要 |
| 391 | The third is probably resilience and no skill is objectively difficult because on two different | 第三种可能是适应能力,没有技能在客观上是困难的,因为有两个不同的 |
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| 393 | done before. | 之前做过 |
| 394 | And it depends on probably how much sleep I got, how resilient I feel. | 这取决于我睡了多少觉,我有多有弹性。 |
| 395 | It's more about how well prepared I feel I can deal with any adversity. | 更多的是,我觉得我做好了准备 能应付任何逆境 |
| 396 | And so the higher our tolerance, our threshold, our resilience generally is, I think it's | 因此,我们的容忍度越高, 我们的门槛, 我们的韧性一般是, 我认为它是 |
| 397 | like having a higher tolerance for life I think is generally a good skill to have. | 就像对生命有更高的容忍度一样 我认为一般来说是一种很好的技能 |
| 398 | And then of course community and community is more than just people who you like and who | 当然,社区和社群 不只是你喜欢的人和谁 |
| 399 | care about you and who you care about, but it's also what helps you craft legacy because | 关心你和关心谁, 但这也是帮助你 塑造遗产,因为 |
| 400 | more than anything your impact on the world is probably most profound on the people who | 你对世界的影响 可能对那些 |
| 401 | are closest to you and so that I think is really important and I think about legacy | 与你最亲近,这样我觉得真的很重要,我想着遗产 |
| 402 | as like an inflection point. | 就像一个触角点。 |
| 403 | So like you can map, okay, this is where this person happened and after that everything | 所以,就像你可以映射, 好吧,这就是 这个人发生的地方, 之后的一切 |
| 404 | became easier or everything started moving faster or after that the people who followed | 事情变得更容易了,或者一切都开始 移动得更快,或者在那之后 跟踪的人 |
| 405 | or the people around them were positively affected in some way and everybody else was | 或周围的人受到某种正面影响 而其他人则 |
| 406 | then able to become a better version of themselves. | 然后就成为了更好的自我 |
| 407 | That is kind of like the general philosophy that I subscribe to. | 这有点像我赞同的一般哲学。 |
| 408 | So yeah, I think those would be kind of like my founding principles. | 所以是的,我认为那些会有点像我的创始原则。 |
| 409 | Great. | 不错 |
| 410 | You know, this is the Karim Family Foundation Inspiring Women Leadership series and in many | 你知道,这是卡里姆家庭基金会 激励女性领导力系列 在许多 |
| 411 | conversations that I've had pertaining to women leadership, one of the questions that's | 我曾经讨论过女性领导的问题之一 |
| 412 | often asked is this and I will ask the question of you as well and that is very often we have | 我也会问你的问题 我们经常问 |
| 413 | someone in our lives who advocate for us, who open the doors for us, who help us with | 我们生活中有人 为我们辩护 为我们打开大门 帮助我们 |
| 414 | our path. | 我们的道路。 |
| 415 | Sometimes we are fortunate enough to have more than that one person. | 有时候我们很幸运 拥有不止一个人 |
| 416 | We know your mother has been fantastic and done so much for you. | 我们知道你母亲很棒 为你做了很多事 |
| 417 | Is there anyone else who's advocated for you that you think has made a difference for you | 还有谁主张你,你认为 已经为你带来了改变 |
| 418 | and now that you're in a position perhaps to advocate for others, | 既然你有能力为别人辩护 |
| 419 | what do you think you might do with that? | 你觉得你会用它做什么? |
| 420 | Okay, definitely my mom. | 好吧,绝对是我妈妈。 |
| 421 | I'm just going to have to reiterate that. | 我只是要重申这一点。 |
| 422 | Can never reiterate that enough. | 这一点再强调也不为过。 |
| 423 | I think I'll tell a little story and I think it's a small anecdote but it really captures | 我想我会讲一个小故事 我认为这是一个小的传闻,但它真的捕捉到 |
| 424 | the spirit of something that I believe strongly in. | 我坚信的东西的精神 |
| 425 | When I was seven or eight, I started in a ski team. | 七八岁时开始参加滑雪队. |
| 426 | I was the only girl on my team and it's important to note that I was | 我是我队中唯一的女孩 重要的是要指出我是 |
| 427 | also attending an all girls school at this time. | 目前还在一所女子学校上学。 |
| 428 | So from age four to 13, I was at an all girls institution. | 所以从4岁到13岁, 我在一个所有的女孩机构。 |
| 429 | So Monday to Friday, I was only with girls and then on the weekends, I was only with boys. | 周一至周五,我只和女孩在一起, 然后周末,我只和男孩在一起。 |
| 430 | So it was like this alien environment. | 所以,它就像这种外星环境。 |
| 431 | I had no idea what was going on. | 我不知道发生了什么 |
| 432 | It was like I wanted to fit in was the most important thing. | 这就像我想适应是最重要的事情。 |
| 433 | I wanted to have friends and I wanted to build community. | 我想有朋友 我想建立社区 |
| 434 | That was like intuitively what I wanted to do but I didn't know how to do it. | 这就像直觉上我想做什么 但我不知道怎么做。 |
| 435 | It's like this alien species. | 如此异类. |
| 436 | What's going on? | 这是怎么回事? |
| 437 | And so my coach at the time, he would set up these games in skiing. | 因此,我的教练在当时, 他会设置这些比赛 在滑雪。 |
| 438 | And it would be little things, you know, who can slide this rail? | 这会是小事,你知道, 谁能滑过这条铁路? |
| 439 | And if you slide the rail, you get a pack of gummy bears or a sticker or a dollar. | 如果你滑过栏杆,你会得到一包软熊 或贴纸或一美元。 |
| 440 | And through the power of sport, you start, you know, | 通过运动的力量,你开始,你知道, |
| 441 | punching each other on the shoulder and you're like, oh, okay, well, I did it last week. | 互相打在肩膀上 你就像,哦,好吧,嗯, 我上周做了。 |
| 442 | So you have to go first this time or no, watch me. | 所以,你必须先走 这次或不,看着我。 |
| 443 | I got it. | 我来 |
| 444 | Like this is, you know, my time. | 像这样,你知道,我的时间。 |
| 445 | And then everyone would line up next to the rail. | 然后大家都排到铁路旁边 |
| 446 | And I remember so specifically the very first time that anybody on our ski team slid a rail. | 我特别记得 我们滑雪队的任何人第一次滑雪 |
| 447 | We were, we were all like lined up next to the rail and they were like, okay. | 我们就像排在铁路旁边 他们就像,好吧。 |
| 448 | The coach said, okay, who wants to go first? | 教练说,谁想先走? |
| 449 | You got a sticker. | 你有贴纸 |
| 450 | And I remember in that moment, I was like, I will go first. | 我记得那一刻,我当时想,我会先走。 |
| 451 | It will be me. | 这将是我。 |
| 452 | And everyone's like, you know, oh my gosh. | 每个人都喜欢,你知道, 哦,我的上帝。 |
| 453 | And so I hike up to the top of the rail. | 所以我爬到铁路的顶部。 |
| 454 | Everyone's holding their breath. | 众皆屏息. |
| 455 | And I literally remember it like it was yesterday. | 我确实记得 就像昨天一样 |
| 456 | I go and I slide the rail. | 我去滑下火车 |
| 457 | It was good. | 这是很好的。 |
| 458 | Everyone's just ecstatic. | 每个人都只是兴奋。 |
| 459 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 460 | Everyone's clapping. | 每个人都在鼓掌 |
| 461 | They're cheering. | 他们在欢呼 |
| 462 | We're like a massive little huddle of just, you know, eight-year-old bodies wearing hoodies | 我们就像一个巨大的小胡同 只是,你知道,八岁 身穿头罩的尸体 |
| 463 | that are way too big for us, you know, past our knees. | 这对我们来说太大了,你知道的, 通过我们的膝盖。 |
| 464 | And in that moment, I was like, wow, this is what it feels like to be included, to belong. | 在那一刻,我就像,哇, 这是它的感觉 被包含,归属。 |
| 465 | Because I am being uplifted by people who I care about and respect, but who are also my peer group. | 因为我被我关心和尊重的人提升了, 但他们也是我的同伴。 |
| 466 | And we are improving together. | 我们一起进步。 |
| 467 | Because by the end of the day, everyone, of course, had slid the rail. | 因为到最后, 每个人,当然,都滑倒了铁路。 |
| 468 | But what's important, I think, from that is that competition is about pushing each other to be | 但重要的是,我认为,从这一点来看, 竞争是 推动对方成为 |
| 469 | better. | 好多了,你还好吧? |
| 470 | And it's about feeling empowered to try. | 和它的感觉 赋予尝试。 |
| 471 | And so much of it is about not being afraid to be the first, not being afraid to fail, | 如此之多的是 不要害怕成为第一, 不要害怕失败, |
| 472 | and being willing to celebrate when other people also achieve success. | 并愿意庆祝 当其他人也取得了成功。 |
| 473 | So it's uplifting other people alongside you and using competition through, you know, | 因此它提升别人 与你并肩并肩 并利用竞争 通过,你知道, |
| 474 | through my example, it's sport, but it could be any avenue in life, | 通过我的例子,这是运动, 但它可以是生命的任何途径, |
| 475 | to uplift yourself and to bring other people with you and to celebrate when people surpass you. | 升起你 带别人来 庆祝人们超越你 |
| 476 | Because it means that there's more opportunity and more excitement and more engagement and more | 因为它意味着有更多的机会 更多的刺激 更多的接触和更多的 |
| 477 | opportunity for you to rise up even more. | 机会让你更能站起来 |
| 478 | So it's really important, I think, to take this idea of like sportsmanship with you. | 所以,我认为,这是非常重要的, 采取这个想法 像运动技巧与你。 |
| 479 | You know, as you were speaking, it struck me that it takes a particular kind of confidence, | 你知道,当你在说话, 它让我印象深刻,它需要一种 特殊的自信, |
| 480 | if you will, to want to be in a competition and to be better than someone else or to be better | 如果你愿意, 想要在竞争 和更好 比别人或更好 |
| 481 | than yourself. | 比你还强 |
| 482 | And on this question of building confidence, you've talked about how creating your own pond | 关于建立信任的问题,你已经谈到 如何创建自己的池塘 |
| 483 | rather than competing in crowded ones is that there is a wisdom to that. | 而不是在拥挤的人群中竞争,就是有这种智慧。 |
| 484 | I wonder if you'd elaborate on that and share your thoughts with the audience. | 我想知道你能不能详细解释一下 和观众分享你的想法 |
| 485 | Sure, yeah, I think to my point on like the anecdote, you sometimes need someone to give | 当然,是的,我想我的观点 像传闻,你有时需要有人给 |
| 486 | you the platform or the confidence to try to say, hey, how about you? | 嘿,你怎么样? |
| 487 | Or, you know, I'm giving you the opportunity to rise up. | 或者,你知道,我给你 机会起来。 |
| 488 | So that's one. | 所以这是一个。 |
| 489 | But I think as far as creating your own pond, what I meant by that is I'm going to take | 但我想,就创造你自己的池塘, 我的意思是,我要采取 |
| 490 | kind of like a woman's angle here, because given it's also where that's kind of one of | 有点像女人的角度 因为它也是其中之一 |
| 491 | our themes for the discussion today, I think that now is a really interesting time to | 我们今天讨论的主题 我认为现在是一个很有趣的时刻 |
| 492 | be a young woman because we have more career opportunities, more educational opportunities, | 作为一个年轻女性,因为我们有 更多的职业机会,更多的教育机会, |
| 493 | more family opportunities, more support than any time in history. | 更多的家庭机会, 比历史上任何时候,更多的支持。 |
| 494 | And what that means is that there is more space for us in places that have historically felt | 这意味着,我们有更多的空间 在历史上感受到的地方 |
| 495 | maybe a little competitive. | 也许有点竞争。 |
| 496 | And what I think that's interesting because you hear this phenomenon a lot of like there's | 我认为这很有趣 因为你听到这个现象 有很多类似 |
| 497 | one woman in the boardroom meeting or there's, you know, one woman on the ski team. | 一个女人在会议室会议 或者,你知道,有一个女人 在滑雪队。 |
| 498 | And what that breeds is this sense of like, OK, there's only space for one of us. | 繁殖出来的是这种感觉, 好吧,只有我们一个的空间。 |
| 499 | And so by default, my competition is all women ever. | 因此,默认,我的竞争是所有的女人。 |
| 500 | But I want to reverse that and think about there's actually more seats in the room than | 但我想扭转这种情况 想想这房间里的座位比 |
| 501 | one. | 一个 |
| 502 | And so the competition is very rarely other people. | 所以比赛很少是其他人。 |
| 503 | The competition is just yourself to be good enough to earn and to provide value and to | 竞争只是你自己 足以赚钱 提供价值 |
| 504 | earn that seat, to be good enough to be there. | 赢得那个座位, 足够好在那里。 |
| 505 | But it's not about beating other people. | 但这不是要打人 |
| 506 | It's about uplifting the entire community so that every single person ends up being | 是为了提升整个社区 让每个人最终都 |
| 507 | better in the way that a rising tide raises all ships. | 更好的方式是,涨潮 提高所有船只。 |
| 508 | And so I want to think about kind of healthy competition and in many ways, no competition | 所以我想考虑一种健康的竞争 在许多方面,没有竞争 |
| 509 | at all, because there's only one of you and only one person has the perspective and history | 因为只有一个人 只有一个人有视角和历史 |
| 510 | and skill set that I mentioned earlier. | 以及我刚才提到的技巧 |
| 511 | And that's you. | 这就是你。 |
| 512 | And every single person has unique value. | 而每个人都有独特的价值. |
| 513 | And so the question is, how can you be the best version of yourself so that you can provide | 所以问题是,你怎么能成为 最好的自我版本 这样你就可以提供 |
| 514 | the most value and help the most people and tell the most interesting and relevant stories | 最有价值、最有帮助的人 说出最有趣的相关故事 |
| 515 | to inflect that legacy point? | 来反映这个遗产点? |
| 516 | And so in a lot of ways, the whole pond metaphor of like, am I a big fish in a small pond or a | 所以,在许多方面,整个池塘的比喻, 像,我是一条大鱼在一个小池塘或一个 |
| 517 | small fish in a big pond? | 大池塘的小鱼? |
| 518 | Stop looking at the other fish. | 别看别的鱼了 |
| 519 | It doesn't matter. | 没关系 |
| 520 | Are there other fish or not? | 还有别的鱼吗? |
| 521 | Do fish even exist, right? | 鱼存在吗? |
| 522 | We don't care. | 我们不在乎。 |
| 523 | Be your own fish. | 做你自己的鱼。 |
| 524 | And you can be a pretty fish. | 你可以成为一个漂亮的鱼。 |
| 525 | You can be a shiny fish. | 你可以成为一条闪亮的鱼。 |
| 526 | You can be a little fish. | 你可以变成一条小鱼。 |
| 527 | You can be a vegetarian fish. | 你可以当素食鱼 |
| 528 | You can be whatever kind of fish you want to be, right? | 你想成为什么样的鱼都可以 对吧? |
| 529 | So I think that's a much more interesting and productive conversation than looking around | 所以,我认为这是一个 更有趣和富有成效的谈话 比看看周围 |
| 530 | and seeing what other fish are in the pond with you. | 看着池塘里还有什么鱼 |
| 531 | You know, there are just so many questions that I could ask, but I am mindful of the time. | 你知道,有这么多的问题,我可以问, 但我注意到时间。 |
| 532 | So I'm going to give this last question to one of our students. | 所以,我要给最后一个问题 我们的学生之一。 |
| 533 | 这是Huisin Sito,他是2027 BBM的班级。 | |
| 534 | And she says, if you could ask yourself, sorry, if you could ask one question to your future self, | 她说,如果你可以问自己,对不起, 如果你可以问一个问题给你的未来自己, |
| 535 | what question would it be? | 会是什么问题? |
| 536 | Only one. | 只有一个 |
| 537 | What inputs or what things did you observe that you felt were the most productive | 你发现什么投入或者什么东西 你感觉最有成果 |
| 538 | in finding the path that you cared about most? | 在寻找你最关心的道路? |
| 539 | So I think a lot of the time, it's easy to follow direction or momentum. | 所以我认为很多时候,很容易遵循方向或势头. |
| 540 | Actually, working hard is hard. | 实际上,努力工作是很辛苦的. |
| 541 | But working hard is not as hard as finding the right direction. | 但努力工作并不像找到正确方向那样难。 |
| 542 | So you can work really hard and bang on a wall, and that does very little. | 这样你就可以努力工作,在墙上敲击, 效果很小。 |
| 543 | Whereas learning what the route is so you can walk around the wall is much more productive. | 学习道路是什么 让你可以走在墙上 更有成效。 |
| 544 | So I want to learn the direction and then work hard in that direction. | 所以我想学习这个方向,然后努力朝这个方向努力. |
| 545 | So I already trust in my ability to work intensely and rigorously. | 所以,我已经相信我的能力 紧张和严格的工作。 |
| 546 | And so I think what's probably more productive for me | 所以我认为什么可能更 生产给我 |
| 547 | is knowing what to observe and what inputs to give value to | 了解观察的内容和给予价值的投入 |
| 548 | so that I can move in the right direction. | 以便我能够朝着正确的方向前进。 |
| 549 | That's wonderful. | 这是美妙的。 |
| 550 | Ladies and gentlemen, we have covered so much ground in a short time. | 女士们,先生们,我们已经 覆盖这么多地面在短时间内。 |
| 551 | You know, testimony to Eileen's intellect as well as her experience in life, | 证明艾琳的智慧 以及她一生的经历 |
| 552 | despite being 23 years old. | 尽管23岁。 |
| 553 | We've covered, you know, everything from how we can train oneself, | 我们从如何训练自己 都包过了 |
| 554 | both physically as well as intellectually, training the mind and the body. | 无论是身体上还是智力上, 训练身心。 |
| 555 | We've talked about how AI actually can be a positive rather than something to fear. | 我们讨论过AI实际上如何成为一个积极的而不是值得害怕的东西. |
| 556 | We've talked about the importance of mutual respect, | 我们讨论过相互尊重的重要性 |
| 557 | of curiosity, of resilience, of community, | 好奇心、复原力、社区、 |
| 558 | and the sense of inclusion and belonging in our journeys in life. | 以及我们人生旅程中的包容和归属感。 |
| 559 | And we've talked about how competition is not necessarily that ugly thing | 我们讨论过 竞争不一定是那么丑 |
| 560 | where we're out at each other's throats, | 我们在对方的喉咙, |
| 561 | but that it is about feeling empowered to try. | 但是,这是关于 感觉有权利尝试。 |
| 562 | It is about pushing each other to be better so that as a community we are better. | 而是推动彼此变得更好,以便我们作为一个社区变得更好。 |
| 563 | And it is perhaps uplifting for the entire community | 这或许会提高整个社区的地位 |
| 564 | where a rising tide, as to use Eileen's words, can raise all boats. | 在那里,一个上升的潮汐, 使用艾琳的言语, 可以提高所有的船只。 |
| 565 | And the one thing I've learned, there is such a thing as a vegetarian fish. | 我学到的一件事 就是吃素鱼 |
| 566 | Algae, right? | 藻类 对吧? |
| 567 | Yes, you're right. | 没错 |
| 568 | Actually, maybe all fish are vegetarians. | 其实,也许所有的鱼都是素食主义者. |
| 569 | I don't know. | 师曰. |
| 570 | Okay, they're not all vegetarians. | 好吧,他们不是所有的素食主义者。 |
| 571 | Wonderful. | 真不错 |
| 572 | I would like to invite the audience in this hall | 我想请大家在座 |
| 573 | that has been a tremendously attentive audience | 观众非常关注 |
| 574 | to join me in thanking Eileen in this wonderful conversation. | 与我一起感谢艾琳 在这美妙的谈话。 |
| 575 | You've got a little fan there. | 你有一个小扇子在那里。 |
| 576 | The little girl stand up again and wave. | 小女孩又站起来挥手 |
| 577 | Eileen's going to wave at you. | 艾琳会向你挥手的 |
| 578 | Hi, cutie pie. | 嗨,可爱派。 |
| 579 | Wonderful. | 真不错 |
| 580 | Thank you once again for spending the time with us. | 再次感谢你和我们在一起 |
| 581 | We're very grateful for the time that you've given to us | 我们非常感谢你给我们的时间 |
| 582 | and the many thoughts that you've shared very candidly with us. | 和许多想法 你非常坦率地与我们分享。 |
| 583 | I'm going to hand back to Jasmine, | 我将交回茉莉 |
| 584 | who will lead us through the next segment. | 他将带领我们通过下一部分。 |
| 585 | Thank you so much, Eileen and Professor Kangkui. | 谢谢你 艾琳和姜九教授 |
| 586 | Please give them another round of applause. | 请再给他们掌声 |
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