早晨的皮质醇节律，怎么控制你一整天的能量和专注|日常习惯揭秘
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| 0:00 | someone else or other people, | 别人或者其他人, |
| 0:02 | but it's an endurance thing. | 但它是一个耐力的事情。 |
| 0:04 | I'll listen to podcasts or books and I'll just like go. | 我会听播客或书 我就喜欢去 |
| 0:07 | This last Sunday, I just went for a slow jog, | 上个星期天,我慢跑 |
| 0:10 | out and back 45 minutes. | 离开45分钟 |
| 0:13 | The whole work of the thing is to not go any faster | 事情的全部工作就是别走得太快 |
| 0:16 | and just do it. | 做到这一点。 |
| 0:17 | That takes me into the week. | 这需要我进入一周。 |
| 0:19 | I start my week with a hard leg workout. | 我开始我的一周 以一个硬腿锻炼。 |
| 0:21 | That's how I like to do it, but it's brief. | 这就是我喜欢做的,但它是简短的。 |
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| 1 | someone else or other people, | 别人或者其他人, |
| 2 | but it's an endurance thing. | 但它是一个耐力的事情。 |
| 3 | I'll listen to podcasts or books and I'll just like go. | 我会听播客或书 我就喜欢去 |
| 4 | This last Sunday, I just went for a slow jog, | 上个星期天,我慢跑 |
| 5 | out and back 45 minutes. | 离开45分钟 |
| 6 | The whole work of the thing is to not go any faster | 事情的全部工作就是别走得太快 |
| 7 | and just do it. | 做到这一点。 |
| 8 | That takes me into the week. | 这需要我进入一周。 |
| 9 | I start my week with a hard leg workout. | 我开始我的一周 以一个硬腿锻炼。 |
| 10 | That's how I like to do it, but it's brief. | 这就是我喜欢做的,但它是简短的。 |
| 11 | It's only about an hour to a couple of warm-up sets | 热身只有一小时 |
| 12 | and a couple of hard work sets for each muscle group. | 每个肌肉组都有几套工作 |
| 13 | So that means some belt squats or some leg presses | 所以,这意味着一些腰带 蹲或一些腿压 |
| 14 | or some hamstring curls and take into failure | 或一些断腿卷曲 并发生故障 |
| 15 | two or three sets. | 两三套 |
| 16 | This is important. | 这很重要。 |
| 17 | You want to keep the body strong, | 你想保持身体强壮, |
| 18 | especially the lower body. | 特别是下体。 |
| 19 | You get that out of the way early in the week, | 这周早点你别挡道 |
| 20 | but I don't push to exhaustion because it's Monday | 但我不会因为周一而疲劳 |
| 21 | and I have a long week ahead. | 我还有很长的一周 |
| 22 | Next day, rest. | 次日休养. |
| 23 | I didn't do any exercise today. | 我今天没有做任何运动。 |
| 24 | I try and walk in the morning. | 我试着在早上走路。 |
| 25 | I get my sunlight. | 我得到我的阳光。 |
| 26 | I do these things, but take that day off | 我做这些事,但请一天假 |
| 27 | after the leg day. | 腿日过后。 |
| 28 | A day later, depending on how I feel, | 一天后, 根据我的感受, |
| 29 | I might do some resistance training again, | 我可能会再做一些抵抗训练, |
| 30 | but typically I will do some sort of easier cardio, | 但通常我会做一些 更容易的心肌, |
| 31 | only about 30 minutes. | 大约30分钟。 |
| 32 | Just keep the cardiovascular system going, | 只要保持心血管系统运转 |
| 33 | blood flow to the brain. | 血流于脑. |
| 34 | These things really help improve brain function, | 这些东西真的有助于改善大脑的功能, |
| 35 | blood flow, improve sleep and so on, but nothing excessive. | 血液流动,改善睡眠等等,但没什么过分的. |
| 36 | The next day, I'll do some sort of pushing and pulling. | 第二天,我会做 某种推拉。 |
| 37 | So some pressing movements for the chest, | 胸口有急动 |
| 38 | some pressing movements overhead, | 一些急迫的移动, |
| 39 | some chin-up type movement and some rowing type movement, | 一些下巴的移动和一些划线的移动, |
| 40 | some abdominals. | 一些腹部。 |
| 41 | So it's just kind of like general torso stuff. | 所以这就像一般的躯干 |
| 42 | Same principle, a couple warm-up sets, | 同样的原则, 夫妇热身, |
| 43 | a couple hard work sets to failure of each exercise. | 一对夫妇的辛勤工作使每次练习都失败。 |
| 44 | You're done in an hour. | 一小时后就结束了 |
| 45 | And then the next day, I do some sort of cardio, | 第二天,我做了一些心跳, |
| 46 | very brief, to get my heart rate way, way up, | 很简单,让我的心跳加快 |
| 47 | VO2 max type training, just once a week. | VO2最大类型训练,每周一次. |
| 48 | Get on the aerodyne bike, warm up for a minute, | 上车,热身一下 |
| 49 | and then pedal hard, hard, hard for 20, 30 seconds, | 然后踩踏硬,硬,硬20,30秒, |
| 50 | rest 20 seconds, and then repeat. | 休息20秒,然后重复。 |
| 51 | Hard, hard, hard. | 难,难,难。 |
| 52 | Something like that for six rounds. | 类似的东西六轮。 |
| 53 | By the end, your heart rate is maxed out. | 到最后,你的心率是最高的。 |
| 54 | You feel like you want to die, | 你觉得你想死 |
| 55 | but then the rest of the day is pretty easy. | 但接下来的日子很轻松 |
| 56 | This rhythm works very well because you'll get strong, | 这节奏很有效 因为你会变得坚强 |
| 57 | you'll have endurance, | 你会有耐力, |
| 58 | you'll have the ability to sprint and go fast. | 你会有冲刺和快速前进的能力 |
| 59 | You're not going to be the fastest or the best runner. | 你不会是最快或最好的跑者。 |
| 60 | You're not going to be the strongest, | 你不会是最强的, |
| 61 | but you're going to have all around fitness. | 但你会得到所有关于健身。 |
| 62 | Your posture will be good. | 你的姿势会很好 |
| 63 | I'm 50 years old. | 年五十岁. |
| 64 | I've been training this way for 35 years. | 我这样训练35年了 |
| 65 | And I can tell you, anyone can do this, male, female, | 我可以告诉你,任何人都可以做到这一点, 男性,女性, |
| 66 | whatever age or hormone status, you can do this. | 无论年龄或激素状况如何,你都可以做到这一点。 |
| 67 | But you need to find your walls. | 但你得找到墙壁 |
| 68 | You need to find your limits. | 你需要找到自己的极限。 |
| 69 | And then you need to decide if you're going to push | 然后,你需要决定 你是否要推动 |
| 70 | past them. | 过他们。 |
| 71 | And I think for me, the real joy is in trying to share tools | 我觉得对我来说,真正的快乐是 试图分享工具 |
| 72 | with people, like the morning cortisol stuff, | 与人们, 像晨光皮质醇的东西, |
| 73 | the low nighttime cortisol stuff, | 低调的夜间皮质醇的东西, |
| 74 | and the many other protocols we cover, | 和许多其他协议 我们覆盖, |
| 75 | so that they can set themselves up to be in the best | 以便他们安居乐业, |
| 76 | position to succeed over time. | 长期成功。 |
| 77 | Because if you don't get that right, | 因为如果你不明白这一点, |
| 78 | you're not going to succeed over time. | 你永远也不会成功的 |
| 79 | There are many things you can take to give you energy. | 有很多事情你可以给你能量。 |
| 80 | There are many books you can read for inspiration. | 有许多书你可以读 灵感。 |
| 81 | I don't even think about inspiration anymore. | 我甚至不再想灵感了 |
| 82 | What? | 你说什么? |
| 83 | I just don't. | 我只是没有。 |
| 84 | I think I try and look for themes in the world | 我觉得我试着寻找世界的主题 |
| 85 | where I like to interact with people like you, | 我喜欢和你这样的人互动 |
| 86 | like my friend Eddie that I saw do neurosurgery this morning, | 就像我的朋友Eddie,我看到今天早上做神经外科手术, |
| 87 | who are like really in their element. | 他们就像在他们的元素。 |
| 88 | Cause there's a vibe that comes from that. | 因为有种气氛就来自此。 |
| 89 | And over time you just find that you're just surrounded | 随着时间的推移,你只是发现 你只是被包围 |
| 90 | by people like that. | 由这样的人。 |
| 91 | Agreed. | 同意,我同意你的话。 |
| 92 | It's like a bunch of tributaries come together | 就像一群支流聚集在一起一样 |
| 93 | and then like I'll encounter people during the day | 我白天会遇到人 |
| 94 | that are struggling and they'll say, | 正在挣扎,他们会说, |
| 95 | hey, do you have any advice? | 你有什么建议吗? |
| 96 | And of course I'll stop and give them my time. | 我当然会停下来给他们时间 |
| 97 | But as you continue to do well and take care of yourself, | 但是,当你继续做好 并照顾自己, |
| 98 | you just notice your whole world is made up of people | 你只是注意到你的世界是由人组成的 |
| 99 | that are like really positive. | 这就像真正的积极。 |
| 100 | And then you don't have to worry so much | 那你就不用这么担心了 |
| 101 | about all the like the downer stuff. | 就像那些降压器一样 |
| 102 | It's also important to keep in mind that when you go online | 同样重要的是要记住 当你上网的时候 |
| 103 | and you're in the open waters of everything | 而你在一切的开阔水域 |
| 104 | from very healthy to really just like mentally ill. | 从非常健康到真正的精神疾病。 |
| 105 | Like we have to remember that on the internet, | 就像我们必须记住 在互联网上, |
| 106 | a lot of people are not well and they're stressed | 很多人身体不好,压力很大 |
| 107 | and they're tired and you can send them love, | 他们累了 你可以给他们送爱 |
| 108 | but do not let any of that erode your wellbeing. | 但不要让任何 损害你的福祉。 |
| 109 | You cannot, I mean, you're a public figure. | 你不能,我的意思是,你是一个公众人物。 |
| 110 | I became a public figure at 45 and I'm 50 now. | 我45岁成为公众人物,现在50岁。 |
| 111 | Like, what do you do? | 喜欢,你是做什么的? |
| 112 | I mean, that takes a lot of strength of mind | 我的意思是,这需要很多 精神力 |
| 113 | in order to not, because I'm sure people say many, | 为了不想,因为我相信人们会说很多, |
| 114 | many kind things, but occasionally people try | 很多好东西,但偶尔人们会尝试 |
| 115 | and puncture your balloon by just being unkind | 刺穿你的气球 只是不善良 |
| 116 | because they're kind of semi-broken people. | 因为他们是半断裂的人 |
| 117 | So how do you deal with that? | 那么,你如何处理呢? |
| 118 | Like, what is your tool? | 比如说,你的工具是什么? |
| 119 | It doesn't affect me, I don't know why. | 它不影响我,我不知道为什么。 |
| 120 | Well, yeah, healthy upbringing. | 嗯,是的,健康的教养。 |
| 121 | Your parents must have done something well. | 你父母一定干得不错 |
| 122 | I absolutely thank them, yes. | 我绝对感谢他们,是的。 |
| 123 | For sure. | 当然 |
| 124 | It doesn't affect me at all. | 这根本不影响我 |
| 125 | Like things, and I have a similar thing, which- | 喜欢的东西,我有类似的东西,什么 - |
| 126 | And we're not just saying that for the cameras. | 我们不只是在说 摄影机。 |
| 127 | No, like you can ask my team or like, | 不 就像你可以问我的团队一样 |
| 128 | they will tell you and I can tell you anything. | 他们会告诉你,我可以告诉你任何事情。 |
| 129 | It's my show, I can cut the wrong stuff, | 这是我的节目,我可以剪错东西, |
| 130 | I can be honest with you. | 我对你说真的 |
| 131 | No, but I really, I think it's interesting | 没有 但我真的觉得很有趣 |
| 132 | because I think a lot of public figures | 因为我认为很多公众人物 |
| 133 | and non-public figures, they struggle with that. | 和不公开的人物, 他们挣扎着。 |
| 134 | Like I don't, I've never, I don't doubt myself at all. | 像我没有,我从来没有, 我一点都不怀疑自己。 |
| 135 | Like just- | 比如说... |
| 136 | Great. | 不错 |
| 137 | Just say what you want to. | 随你怎么说 |
| 138 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 139 | I know what I'm going to do. | 悉得现前. |
| 140 | I see every hate or every negative comment that I get, | 我看到每一个仇恨 或每一个负面的评论 我得到, |
| 141 | I see it either it's a constructive feedback, | 我认为这是建设性的反馈, |
| 142 | which I probably have missed and it's a blind spot | 我可能错过了 是个盲点 |
| 143 | and I see it as- | 我认为这是... |
| 144 | Perhaps, perhaps, not always. | 也许,也许,不是总是。 |
| 145 | Yeah, not always. | 是啊,并不总是。 |
| 146 | Like some of them I see it as a constructive feedback, | 和其中一些人一样,我认为这是建设性的反馈, |
| 147 | oh, maybe I missed this. | 哦,也许我错过了这个。 |
| 148 | And some I'm like, I don't care, that's your opinion. | 而有些我好像, 我不在乎, 这就是你的看法。 |
| 149 | Like it doesn't even affect me, I just laugh it off. | 就像它甚至不影响我, 我只是笑它关闭。 |
| 150 | Yeah, I mean, I think it's- | 是的,我的意思是,我认为它是... |
| 151 | I'm like, it's great. | 我很喜欢,这是伟大的。 |
| 152 | It's interesting because I think it all starts | 这很有趣,因为我觉得一切都开始 |
| 153 | with knowing that you're a, that one talking | 知道你是一个,那个说话 |
| 154 | about themselves is a fundamentally good person. | 对自己来说,是一个根本上好的人。 |
| 155 | You know, I think good parenting starts | 你知道,我觉得良好的养育开始 |
| 156 | with children feeling loved and that they are, you know, | 和孩子们的爱, 他们,你知道, |
| 157 | born into and are of goodness, right? | 生来就是善良的,对吧? |
| 158 | Because I think that people who don't feel | 因为我觉得没有感觉的人 |
| 159 | that way are very susceptible to criticism, right? | 这样很容易受到批评,对吧? |
| 160 | Because it gets at this question like, am I bad? | 因为它得到这个问题 像,我坏? |
| 161 | Is it like, it gets to those things. | 是这样吗,它得到的东西。 |
| 162 | If you know that fundamentally you have a good heart, | 如果你基本上知道你有一颗好心 |
| 163 | you're human, you make mistakes, but you have a good heart, | 你是人类,你犯错 但你有一颗好心, |
| 164 | you're 90% of the way there, right? | 你是90%的方式,对不对? |
| 165 | So keeping that in mind. | 所以记住这一点。 |
| 166 | And then there's this peculiarity of human nature | 还有人类的特质 |
| 167 | that humans like, I mean, think about what it takes. | 人类喜欢,我的意思是, 想想它需要什么。 |
| 168 | Just think for a second of what it takes to go | 只要想一想要花多少时间 |
| 169 | on the internet and take the time to send | 在互联网上,慢慢发送 |
| 170 | or post a cruel comment about somebody. | 或者发表关于某人的残酷评论 |
| 171 | Just think of like how broken somebody has to be inside. | 想想看 里面一定有坏人 |
| 172 | And they're probably hearing this and thinking, no, | 他们可能听到这个 并思考,没有, |
| 173 | you're the one that's, you know, but no, like, | 你是一个,你知道, 但是不,喜欢, |
| 174 | just think about that. | 考虑一下 |
| 175 | And I don't say this with any smugness or pleasure. | 我不以任何自负或喜悦来说这个 |
| 176 | It's like, wow, like I wouldn't | 就像,哇,我不会 |
| 177 | in a million years think to do that for amusement, | 在一百万年里,想这样做 以娱乐, |
| 178 | for pleasure, for it, like it's net negative for everybody. | 对于快乐,对于它, 就像它的净负 对每个人。 |
| 179 | You're down one- | 你倒下一个... |
| 180 | You're not wired that way. | 你没有电线。 |
| 181 | What's that? | 这是什么? |
| 182 | You're not wired that way. | 你没有电线。 |
| 183 | I don't get it. | I么则不解. |
| 184 | I really don't get it. | 我真的不明白这一点。 |
| 185 | And so if people are feeling aggravated | 所以,如果人们感到严重 |
| 186 | by content they see online about themselves or others, | 他们在网上看到关于自己或其他人的内容, |
| 187 | they should really keep in mind what it takes | 他们应该真正记住 需要什么 |
| 188 | to kind of like how broken and sad somebody must be inside | 那种喜欢 如何破碎和悲伤 一定有人在里面 |
| 189 | in order to do that. | 为了做到这一点。 |
| 190 | So if I see something online, I try and I send them love. | 所以,如果我在网上看到一些东西, 我尝试给他们送去爱。 |
| 191 | I just try and send them love. | 我只是试着送他们爱。 |
| 192 | Good luck, good, you know, love, like, you know, | 祝你好运,好,你知道,爱,喜欢,你知道, |
| 193 | but it's great that you don't suffer from that. | 但是,这是伟大的,你不 痛苦。 |
| 194 | I think we don't talk about it often, | 我想我们不常谈论它, |
| 195 | but my parents and my brother, like my family in particular, | 但我的父母和我的兄弟, 像我的家人, |
| 196 | they did an incredible job. | 他们做了一个令人难以置信的工作。 |
| 197 | I grew up in a joint family. | 我在一个家庭里长大的 |
| 198 | And one thing which they gave me- | 他们给了我一件事 |
| 199 | Sorry, what is joint family? | 对不起,什么是联合家庭? |
| 200 | It's like, we were 10 people in one house. | 这就像,我们10人在一个房子。 |
| 201 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 202 | So joint family is when you, like your mom and dad, | 所以联姻家庭是当你, 像你妈妈和爸爸, |
| 203 | you, your brother, my uncle, aunt, my grandma, grandfather, | 你,你哥哥,我叔叔,姨妈,我奶奶,爷爷, |
| 204 | everybody lived in one house. | 每个人都住在一个房子里 |
| 205 | Oh, how cool. | 哦,多酷啊。 不错。 |
| 206 | Yeah, so- | 对,所以... |
| 207 | Yeah, we don't typically have that here. | 是啊,我们通常不在这里。 |
| 208 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 209 | Awesome. | 厉害 |
| 210 | So if we call it joint family and nuclear family, | 所以,如果我们称之为 联合家族和核心家族, |
| 211 | nuclear is when the way you guys live here, | 核是你们住在这里的方式 |
| 212 | like mom, dad, kids. | 像妈妈,爸爸,孩子。 |
| 213 | Yeah, well, that's the best of circumstances. | 是啊,这是最好的环境。 |
| 214 | Typically nowadays there's, I mean, | 通常现在有,我的意思是, |
| 215 | divorce is rampant here, right? | 这里离婚很猖獗,对吧? |
| 216 | My parents divorced, they both got remarried. | 我父母离婚了 他们都再婚了 |
| 217 | I was very young. | 当时我还很年轻 |
| 218 | It was very disruptive, very disruptive | 它非常干扰,非常干扰 |
| 219 | to my whole psychology, but it worked out | 我的整个心理学, 但结果 |
| 220 | and I loved them all and you know, | 我爱他们,你知道, |
| 221 | but we certainly didn't all live under one roof. | 但我们不是都住在一个屋檐下 |
| 222 | So that's cool. | 所以这很酷。 |
| 223 | So you would wake up in the morning, | 这样你早上醒来, |
| 224 | how many people would you see in your kitchen? | 你在厨房里会看到多少人? |
| 225 | 10 people, I just like- | 10个人,我只是喜欢... |
| 226 | Amazing. | 厉害 |
| 227 | And every weekend I would have like cousins over. | 每个周末我都喜欢表妹 |
| 228 | So we would be like 30 people in one house. | 所以我们会像30人在一个房子里。 |
| 229 | So I've born and brought up in that. | 所以我生下来就长大了 |
| 230 | And I think one incredible thing, | 我觉得有件事不可思议 |
| 231 | it's like, A, they did a great job | 就像,A,他们做得很好 |
| 232 | because they gave me so much self-belief, | 因为他们给了我这么多的 自信, |
| 233 | which I'm just grateful. | 我只是感谢。 |
| 234 | I don't know why they did that and how they did that, | 我不知道他们为什么要这么做 也不知道他们是怎么做到的 |
| 235 | but they did that very beautifully. | 但是他们做的非常漂亮 |
| 236 | Even today, my brother, my cousins, | 即使是今天,我的兄弟,我的堂兄弟们, |
| 237 | everybody just believes so much. | 大家都这么相信 |
| 238 | So that's an incredible thing. | 这真是不可思议 |
| 239 | The other is also when you're born | 另一个也是当你出生的时候 |
| 240 | with so many people all around, | 这么多人 |
| 241 | you get immune to criticism. | 你不受批评 |
| 242 | Because since childhood, you've been constantly compared. | 因为从小就一直比较你 |
| 243 | Like you're compared to your cousin, | 就像你和你表弟相比 |
| 244 | you're compared to your brother, | 你和你哥哥比起来 |
| 245 | you're compared to the five people in family. | 你和家里五个人相比 |
| 246 | And you've been like, you've been shouted, | 你一直说,你一直喊, |
| 247 | you've been abused and like just verbally | 你一直受到虐待 就像只是口头上 |
| 248 | about certain things. | 关于某些事情。 |
| 249 | So you get so immune that by the time you're an adult, | 所以,你得到如此的免疫 当你是成年人, |
| 250 | the outside world doesn't affect you at all. | 外面的世界根本不影响你 |
| 251 | That's so interesting. | 这太有趣了 |
| 252 | Like it makes you- | 就像它让你 - |
| 253 | I didn't know this existed, by the way. | 顺便说一句,我不知道这个存在。 |
| 254 | And I think most Americans won't know this- | 我认为大多数美国人不会知道这个... |
| 255 | Joint family structure. | 联合家庭结构。 |
| 256 | But I have to say, early on in life, | 但我不得不说, 早期的生活, |
| 257 | I joined some sports and some other things | 我参加了一些运动和其他一些事情 |
| 258 | where I was in just a big pack of young guys. | 我当时在一群年轻人中 |
| 259 | And you take a lot of, we call it here, ribbing, right? | 你拿了很多,我们叫它这里, ribbing,对不对? |
| 260 | You take a lot of like joking or hazing. | 开玩笑或欺负人 |
| 261 | And I mean, people were rough on each other verbally. | 我的意思是,人们在口头上对彼此很粗暴。 |
| 262 | And you learn that it's an expression of love. | 你学会了这是爱的表达 |
| 263 | Sometimes it's an expression of real criticism, | 有时候,这是真正的批评 |
| 264 | but it makes you resilient. | 但它让你有弹性。 |
| 265 | And when I went into science, listen, in science, | 当我进入科学, 听着,在科学, |
| 266 | you are constantly being told, | 常有人对你们说: |
| 267 | that's not good enough, change the paper. | 那还不够好,换报纸吧 |
| 268 | That's not good enough for you. | 这对你来说还不够好。 |
| 269 | I mean, it's nonstop. | 我的意思是,这是不间断的。 |
| 270 | No, no, no, not good enough. | 不,不,不,不够好。 |
| 271 | Finally, okay, okay, do it again. | 最后,好,好,再来一次。 |
| 272 | So I've never, I assume criticism | 所以我从来没有,我假设批评 |
| 273 | is part of the process. | 是一个进程的一部分。 |
| 274 | So similarly, so different. | 同样,如此不同。 |
| 275 | It came from my friendship in my work community, | 这来自我在工作圈里的友谊 |
| 276 | but it was constant barrage of critique, critique, | 却不断的责备, |
| 277 | critique, critique, including some, | 批评,批评,包括一些, |
| 278 | like you make some embarrassing mistakes | 就像你犯一些尴尬的错误 |
| 279 | and you have to live with that shame and recover from it | 你必须忍受那耻辱,从中恢复 |
| 280 | and know that you're still loved or that you love yourself. | 并知道你仍然被爱 或者你爱自己。 |
| 281 | So there are some parallels, | 所以有一些相似之处, |
| 282 | but I think the fact that you had that at home | 但我觉得你家里有这个 |
| 283 | from such a young age and now when you go home, | 从小到现在你回家 |
| 284 | like when you visit, it's a huge group. | 就像你拜访的时候,这是一个巨大的团体。 |
| 285 | It美'. | |
| 286 | Now they're very proud. | 现在他们非常自豪。 |
| 287 | Of course, they don't criticize me anymore. | 当然,他们不再批评我了 |
| 288 | But now you're becoming a leader of the family, right? | 但现在你正成为家族的领袖,对吧? |
| 289 | An example. | 举个例子 |
| 290 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 291 | And you're fine with that pressure. | 你没有压力 |
| 292 | I get the sense that you feel calm in that pressure. | 我感觉到你在压力中感到冷静 |
| 293 | That's great. | 赞曰. |
| 294 | Yeah, I'm okay with that. | 是的,我没事。 |
| 295 | Yeah, it's wonderful. | 是啊,这是美妙的。 |
| 296 | No, I think it's wonderful. | 不,我觉得这很好。 |
| 297 | I'm learning from you. | 我从你学。 |
| 298 | I don't think you see that mindset | 我想你没有看到这种心态 |
| 299 | in American households that much. | 在美国的家庭中,很多。 |
| 300 | But you know, in like my current state of reality | 但你知道,像我现在的现实状态 |
| 301 | has not changed their attitude towards me at all. | 他们对我的态度丝毫没有改变。 |
| 302 | Like, does it make sense? | 说得通吗? |
| 303 | That helps. | 这有帮助。 |
| 304 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 305 | It keeps you humble. | 它让你谦卑。 |
| 306 | They're the same people and they would put me to a ground | 他们是同一个人,他们要把我打倒 |
| 307 | and they would leave no opportunity | 他们不留任何机会, |
| 308 | to thrash me whenever they get. | 随时打我 |
| 309 | Well, that's good too. | 嗯,这是很好的了。 |
| 310 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 311 | And it's a way of love. | 而以爱为道. |
| 312 | Yeah, absolutely. | 当然 |
| 313 | No, I think that's very, very important. | 不,我觉得这很重要 |
| 314 | I mean, I am relieved to hear it | 我的意思是,我很高兴听到它 |
| 315 | because I worry about people | 因为我担心人 |
| 316 | that become very successful, very young. | 变得非常成功,非常年轻。 |
| 317 | You know, I was reasonably, well, I was a very aspiring kid. | 你知道,我是一个很有抱负的孩子。 |
| 318 | Then I had some rough years. | 然后我经历了一些艰难的岁月。 |
| 319 | Then I would have been, you know, the scientific, | 然后我会,你知道,科学, |
| 320 | my scientific career went very well. | 我的科研事业进展顺利 |
| 321 | I had to work very, very hard, but it went very, very well. | 我不得不工作非常,非常努力, 但是它非常,非常好。 |
| 322 | But I was surrounded, you know, | 但我被包围了,你知道, |
| 323 | at Stanford School of Medicine, | 在斯坦福医学院, |
| 324 | you look to your left, you look to your right, | 你看着你的左边,你看着你的右边, |
| 325 | everybody's doing awesome stuff. | 每个人都在做 真棒的东西。 |
| 326 | And some of them are doing, I mean, | 他们中有些人正在做,我的意思是, |
| 327 | I've got colleagues that will win Nobel prizes, | 我有同事会赢得诺贝尔奖 |
| 328 | have won Nobel prizes. | 曾获诺贝尔奖。 |
| 329 | That wasn't me. | 这不是我。 |
| 330 | I knew that. | 我知道这一点。 |
| 331 | Like I would think it was a good scientist. | 就像我认为这是个好科学家 |
| 332 | I think I am a good scientist, | 我觉得我是个好科学家 |
| 333 | but I also knew my level, my place. | 但我也知道我的水平,我的位置。 |
| 334 | I do feel I deserved and deserve to be there. | 我确实觉得自己应该和应该去那儿 |
| 335 | But when you're surrounded by people that are like | 但当你周围的人 喜欢 |
| 336 | the Michael Jordans of your field, the LeBrons of you go, | 迈克尔・乔丹,你球场, 勒布朗去, |
| 337 | like Eddie Chang, I mean, like he's on a whole other level, | 像张艾迪一样,我是说,就像他在另一个层面, |
| 338 | a whole other level. | 整个其他级别。 |
| 339 | And he'll be like, no, no, no, no, like, yes. | 则将如,不,不,不,是也. |
| 340 | Completely different as a clinician, as a scientist. | 作为一个临床医生,作为一个科学家,是完全不同的。 |
| 341 | So it raises you, your standard is very high. | 因此,它提高了你, 你的水准非常高。 |
| 342 | But I think that one thing that's great is that | 但我认为一件伟大的事情是 |
| 343 | I became public facing at a time when I was 45 years old. | 我45岁时就公开面对 |
| 344 | So my personality and my, you know, for better or worse, | 所以我的个性 和我,你知道, 不管好坏, |
| 345 | was already crystallized. | 已经结晶。 |
| 346 | I was not going to change that much. | 我不打算改变这么多。 |
| 347 | But my friends still treat me the same. | 但是我的朋友还是这样对我 |
| 348 | And I think that the encouragement, I heard a good one. | 我认为,鼓励, 我听到一个好的。 |
| 349 | This was actually, I think it was Jocko Willink | 其实是乔科・威林克 |
| 350 | that said this. | 这么说的 |
| 351 | He said, you know, your really good friends will, | 他说,你知道, 你真正的好朋友会, |
| 352 | and this is very like male oriented, | 这是非常像男性, |
| 353 | really good male friends. | 真正的好朋友们 |
| 354 | They'll give you the hardest time to your face, | 他们会给你最难的时间面对你 |
| 355 | but they will never talk badly about you behind your back. | 但他们不会在背后谈论你 |
| 356 | Bang on. | 继续 |
| 357 | Yeah, so that's like, that's the critical test. | 是啊,这就像, 这是关键测试。 |
| 358 | Like they should be able to say anything | 就像他们应该能说什么 |
| 359 | and they will give you a really hard time to your face. | 他们会给你一个真正的困难 面对你。 |
| 360 | But if you're out of the room, | 但如果你离开房间 |
| 361 | they're not getting into any kind of gossipy stuff about you | 他们不会谈论你 |
| 362 | when you're out of the room and you about them. | 当你离开房间,你谈论他们。 |
| 363 | That's kind of like, you know, | 这有点像,你知道, |
| 364 | 30% of like how to be a dude. | 30%喜欢如何成为一个男人。 |
| 365 | Know that rule. | 要知道这个规则。 |
| 366 | Take and give some flack, you know, | 拿着,给一些flack,你知道, |
| 367 | when your friend is in the room, | 当你朋友在房间里的时候 |
| 368 | when you're in the room together, | 当你在房间里, |
| 369 | but when you're out of the room, | 但当你离开房间时, |
| 370 | like there's just no, | 就像没有 |
| 371 | there's no bad talking when people are out of the room. | 人出室时无恶言. |
| 372 | I think that's, it's like a family of sorts. | 我认为,这就像一个家庭类型。 |
| 373 | So anyway, I appreciate you sharing a bit | 所以,不管怎样,我很感激你分享一点 |
| 374 | because I get a sense of that your confidence is very, | 因为我感觉到你非常自信 |
| 375 | is very real and that doesn't arrive on accident. | 这是非常真实的, 这不是偶然的。 |
| 376 | So yeah. | 对啊 |
| 377 | You said it worries you when somebody young | 你说年轻的时候会担心的 |
| 378 | gets super successful. | 变得超级成功。 |
| 379 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 380 | Why? | 为什么? |
| 381 | What worries you the most? | 你最担心的是什么? |
| 382 | I mean. | 我是说... |
| 383 | What have you seen personally? | 你亲眼见过什么? |
| 384 | Goodness. | 天呐 |
| 385 | So I've known people who got very popular, | 我认识一些很受欢迎的人 |
| 386 | famous and rich from athletics, | 著名的,富饶的田径运动员, |
| 387 | who really soared in their business pursuits, | 他们的确在他们的事业中奔驰, |
| 388 | everything from tech to people in the world of, | 从科技到人类 |
| 389 | you know, culinary and things like that. | 你知道,烹饪之类的东西。 |
| 390 | And so many crash and burn. | 这么多的坠毁和燃烧。 |
| 391 | I mean, attention is a drug if it's misused, | 我的意思是,注意力是一种药物 如果它被滥用, |
| 392 | attention recycled into creative pursuit, | 注意力被回收到创造性的追求, |
| 393 | into intellectual pursuit and then giving back more. | 进入智力追求,然后回报更多。 |
| 394 | That's a beautiful thing. | 这是一件美丽的事情。 |
| 395 | But you look at all these performing artists, | 但你看看所有这些表演艺术家, |
| 396 | you know, musicians and so forth that like they implode. | 你知道,音乐家等等 他们像他们爆炸。 |
| 397 | And I think it's because like amphetamines, | 我认为这是因为像安非他明, |
| 398 | like opioids, but especially like amphetamines, | 像类阿片, 特别是安非他明, |
| 399 | you know, the, some people, | 你知道,有些人, |
| 400 | if they don't have that solid family grounding, | 如果他们没有那么扎实的家庭基础, |
| 401 | that solid internal structure in psychology, | 心理学中坚实的内部结构, |
| 402 | hopefully they have the family too. | 希望他们也有家人 |
| 403 | But if they don't have that, | 但是,如果他们没有, |
| 404 | they experience these peaks of attention and money | 他们经历了这些关注和金钱的高峰 |
| 405 | where they're the focus. | 在那里他们是焦点。 |
| 406 | Most people don't go through life | 大多数人不会经历生活 |
| 407 | where like they're the focus. | 在那里,就像他们焦点。 |
| 408 | And then they experience this dramatic dip afterwards | 然后,他们经历了这个戏剧性的浸泡之后 |
| 409 | and they need to get back. | 他们需要回去。 |
| 410 | And if they can't, they start using substances | 如果他们不能,他们开始使用物质 |
| 411 | or they start spending money in ways | 或者他们开始花钱的方式 |
| 412 | that they think that's going to be the quote unquote salvation. | 他们认为那将是 引文未引用的救赎。 |
| 413 | You know, I mean, I think there's a reason why, | 你知道,我的意思是, 我认为有原因, |
| 414 | at least in the United States, | 至少在美国, |
| 415 | so many famous people eventually turn | 这么多名人最终转身 |
| 416 | to some notion of God, right? | 对上帝的某种概念,对不对? |
| 417 | Is because they realize that that's a loving relationship | 因为他们意识到这是一种爱的关系 |
| 418 | that will never leave them if they don't leave it. | 他们不会离开的,如果他们不离开它。 |
| 419 | And in principle, it never leaves them anyway. | 原则上,它永远不会离开他们。 |
| 420 | Because when people realize, | 因为当人们意识到, |
| 421 | oh, you know, people love them only | 哦,你知道,人们只爱他们 |
| 422 | because of the position they're in. | 因为他们的位置。 |
| 423 | That's a scary thing. | 这太可怕了 |
| 424 | There are certain things that are immune to this. | 有一些东西是免疫的。 |
| 425 | But if you think about it, | 但是如果你考虑一下 |
| 426 | like there's certain roles that like they're only, | 就像有某些角色 就像他们只是, |
| 427 | when somebody's in the role, | 当有人在角色, |
| 428 | everyone like treats them a certain way and does something. | 每个人都喜欢用某种方式对待他们 做点什么 |
| 429 | The moment they're out, | 他们一出来 |
| 430 | like no one cares about the ex-president, right? | 就像没人在乎前总统一样,对吧? |
| 431 | They kind of do, but they're no longer the person. | 他们有,但他们不再是那个人了。 |
| 432 | People treat, well, now it's complicated | 人们治疗,嗯,现在它很复杂 |
| 433 | because it's so politically divided, but you get the idea. | 因为它是如此的政治分歧, 但你得到的想法。 |
| 434 | But I think we've come up with something today | 但我想我们今天想出了点办法 |
| 435 | that I didn't intend to sort of arrive at, | 我并不打算到达, |
| 436 | but I do strongly believe yours one, two, and three. | 但我坚信你的一、二、三 |
| 437 | Gas pedal, gas pedal, just do it. | 气体踏板,气体踏板,只要做到这一点。 |
| 438 | Don't damage your health to the extreme. | 不要损害你的健康到极端。 |
| 439 | Like don't do anything crazy, don't die, | 像不做任何事情疯狂, 不要死, |
| 440 | but like just gas pedal. | 但像只是汽油踏板。 |
| 441 | Four, five, six, learn to dynamically regulate it. | 四,五,六,学习动态调节. |
| 442 | Seven, eight, nine and forward. | 七,八,九和前进. |
| 443 | All right, now you're, now the good stuff. | 好吧,现在你,现在好东西。 |
| 444 | Now you can really just fine tune | 现在,你可以 真正只是精细的曲调 |
| 445 | and savor it, like savor it, | 并把它, 像把它, |
| 446 | like really sit back every once in a while and be like, | 就像偶尔会坐着一样 |
| 447 | like in your case, you can be like, man, I did that. | 就像你的情况,你可以 像,伙计,我做到了。 |
| 448 | You built something real because you took the risk. | 你造真东西是因为你冒险 |
| 449 | And that's what we want. | 这就是我们想要的。 |
| 450 | I know I can tell, | 我知道我看得出来, |
| 451 | even though we don't know each other very well, | 虽然我们不太了解对方 |
| 452 | like that's what you want for your audience. | 就像你想要的观众。 |
| 453 | That's what I want for people. | 这就是我想要的人。 |
| 454 | I want people to realize, | 我希望人们意识到, |
| 455 | yes, you may have an autoimmune condition. | 是的,你可能有一个自体免疫状况。 |
| 456 | You may be suffering from a mental health issue. | 你可能患有心理健康问题 |
| 457 | You need to tend to those things in very direct ways, | 你需要非常直接地照顾那些东西, |
| 458 | but get these basic things right. | 但把这些基本的东西正确。 |
| 459 | You will be amazed how much better your life is. | 你会惊讶你的生活有多美好 |
| 460 | Are some people built different? | 有些人是建的吗? |
| 461 | In what sense? | 在什么意义上? |
| 462 | In any sense. | 以何义故. |
| 463 | Like, you know, when you look at somebody | 比如,当你看着某人 |
| 464 | who's like just on a winning streak, | 他就像在一场胜利中, |
| 465 | you look at them and be like, you know, | 你看着他们 就像,你知道, |
| 466 | that beast is built different. | 那个野兽是不同的 |
| 467 | Well, certainly while there are exceptions | 当然有例外 |
| 468 | of people who are very genetically disadvantaged, | 遗传上非常不利的人 |
| 469 | overcoming that and doing tremendously well in sport. | 克服这个障碍,在体育运动中表现得非常好。 |
| 470 | The example that's always given is like Spudweb | 总是举个例子,就像土豆网 |
| 471 | won the slam dunk competition. | 赢了决赛 |
| 472 | He's not a tall guy kind of thing. | 他不是个高个子的东西。 |
| 473 | But hang around some NBA players. | 但是在NBA的一些球员周围徘徊. |
| 474 | You realize most of them are very, very tall, right? | 你知道他们大多数都很高,对吧? |
| 475 | It's a genetic thing. | 这是遗传问题 |
| 476 | It's amount of IGF-1 and growth hormone | 这是IGF-1和生长激素的数量 |
| 477 | pumped out of their pituitary. | 抽出他们的垂体。 |
| 478 | So, you know, largely inherited. | 所以,你知道,基本上继承。 |
| 479 | But from a mindset perspective. | 但从思维角度来说 |
| 480 | This is a fascinating issue to me. | 这对我来说是个令人着迷的问题。 |
| 481 | I do believe that some people have more energy | 我相信有些人有更大的能量 |
| 482 | and it's not necessarily physical or mental energy, | 它不一定是身体或精神能量, |
| 483 | although it often is. | 虽然它经常是。 |
| 484 | It's more a sense of self. | 更有自觉. |
| 485 | Like, some people report this. | 比如说,有人报告这个。 |
| 486 | They believe when they're born | 他们一出生就相信 |
| 487 | that they're like fated to do something, something. | 他们就像注定要做的事一样 |
| 488 | It's like they have this kind of like level of vibration | 好像他们有这种程度的震动 |
| 489 | in their nervous system. | 在他们的神经系统。 |
| 490 | They need to like take it someplace | 他们需要把它带到某个地方 |
| 491 | and they'll like do something with this. | 他们喜欢用这个做点什么 |
| 492 | And when you give them something to bite down on | 当你给他们一些可以咬的东西 |
| 493 | and they just go, and hopefully they bite down | 他们只是去, 希望他们咬下来 |
| 494 | into something that's generative and healthy. | 进入一个基因和健康的事物。 |
| 495 | You know, humans are a unique animal, | 你知道,人类是一种独特的动物, |
| 496 | but I spend a lot of time thinking about | 但我花了很多时间想 |
| 497 | the nervous systems of other animals too | 其他动物的神经系统 |
| 498 | for reasons related to my scientific career. | 与我的科学生涯有关的原因 |
| 499 | Some species of animals have a lot of energy | 有些种类的动物能量很大 |
| 500 | and others are very like aloft | 其他人也一样 |
| 501 | and then they occasionally do something, right? | 然后他们偶尔做点什么,对不对? |
| 502 | People are kind of like that too. | 人们也一样 |
| 503 | You know, I do think that some people are just more relaxed. | 你知道,我确实认为 有些人只是更放松。 |
| 504 | They're not as driven. | 他们没有被驱动。 |
| 505 | I think they are still fundamentally important to society | 我觉得他们对于社会来说仍然很重要 |
| 506 | and I don't say that just to, you know, | 我不是说,仅仅为了,你知道, |
| 507 | be politically correct. | 政治上的正确性 |
| 508 | I think that we need people who are just going to tend | 我认为我们需要有人 刚刚要去照顾 |
| 509 | to certain things day in, day out | 在某些事物中,日复一日 |
| 510 | on a very consistent level. | 在一个非常一致的水平上。 |
| 511 | And they're not trying to break out | 他们不是想逃跑 |
| 512 | of their current circumstances. | 他们目前的情况。 |
| 513 | They don't feel this friction with their current circumstances. | 他们不觉得这种摩擦 与当前的环境。 |
| 514 | They're not, I do think that this is strongly related | 他们不是,我确实认为 这有很强的关系 |
| 515 | to the dopamine system. | 到多巴胺系统。 |
| 516 | I think some people, they feel the friction | 我觉得有些人,他们感觉到摩擦 |
| 517 | of where they're at. | 他们在哪里。 |
| 518 | It's never enough, which is tricky | 这是永远不够,这是棘手的 |
| 519 | because you want people to savor what they have | 因为你希望人们 享受他们所拥有的 |
| 520 | and continue to strive. | 并继续努力。 |
| 521 | You don't want people to be always dismayed. | 你不希望人们总是感到沮丧。 |
| 522 | It's not enough. | 犹不足矣. |
| 523 | That's not good, right? | 这样不好,对吧? |
| 524 | And you see that when people start to think, | 你看,当人们开始思考, |
| 525 | oh, more cars, more money, more marriages, | 哦,更多的汽车,更多的钱,更多的婚姻, |
| 526 | in some cases, more children, you know, | 在某些情况下,更多的孩子,你知道, |
| 527 | like it's interesting on X, you know, | 喜欢它的有趣 在X,你知道, |
| 528 | I spend a fair amount of time on X. | 我花了相当长的时间在X上。 |
| 529 | That's interesting. | 这很有趣。 |
| 530 | You can learn things there, | 你可以在那里学东西 |
| 531 | but there seems to be this sort of like competitiveness | 但似乎有这样的竞争能力 |
| 532 | that you can observe and certain people like about kids. | 你可以观察某些人喜欢孩子 |
| 533 | Great, children are wonderful. | 很好,孩子们都很棒 |
| 534 | They're joyful. | 他们是快乐的。 |
| 535 | I love kids, right? | 我爱孩子,对不对? |
| 536 | But when people are attached to any one thing | 但当人们喜欢任何一件事 |
| 537 | as being the answer, it's very clear where that's headed. | 作为答案,它非常清楚 它的方向。 |
| 538 | They're not, they're headed for dismay. | 他们不是,他们正走向沮丧。 |
| 539 | You know, they're headed for trouble, | 你知道,他们正走向麻烦, |
| 540 | whether it's money or it's fame or anything else. | 不管是钱还是名利还是别的什么 |
| 541 | But I do think that having a little bit of internal friction | 但我确实认为 有一些内部摩擦 |
| 542 | and agitation or a lot, I mean, let's be fair. | 和激动或很多,我的意思是, 让我们公平。 |
| 543 | Like many kind of disagreeable people go on | 就像很多不满意的人一样 |
| 544 | to do great things because they look at the world | 做伟大的事情,因为他们看着世界 |
| 545 | and they say, it can be so much better. | 他们说,这样会更好 |
| 546 | We just have to build this, you know, | 我们只需要建造这个,你知道, |
| 547 | trillion dollar company, or it can be so much better. | 几万亿美元的公司, 或者它会好得多。 |
| 548 | We just have to talk about all these things we know | 我们只需要谈谈我们知道的这些事情 |
| 549 | that nobody's willing to talk about. | 没有人愿意谈论。 |
| 550 | Like in my case, I really believe that there's deep value | 像我这样,我确实相信 这一点很重要 |
| 551 | in people understanding some basic science | 理解一些基础科学的人 |
| 552 | of how they work and also some interesting things | 他们的工作方式 以及一些有趣的事情 |
| 553 | from health and wellness and things from ancient, | 是健康、健康、古老的, |
| 554 | really ancient practices like yoga nidra, | 真正的古老的练习 像瑜伽尼德拉, |
| 555 | that if we can just tell it to them | 如果我们能告诉他们 |
| 556 | in the form of physiology, like maybe they'll get it. | 也许他们会得到它。 |
| 557 | Like most people, I would say a lot of people | 和大多数人一样,我会说很多人 |
| 558 | look at the world and they go, | 看看这个世界,他们走了, |
| 559 | huh, like I'm just trying to get by. | 嗯,就像我只是想过。 |
| 560 | And are they lazy? | 他们懒吗? |
| 561 | No, are they worse? | 不,他们更糟吗? |
| 562 | No, it's just, I do think that people who like | 不,这只是,我确实认为 人谁喜欢 |
| 563 | to build things have to build things. | 建造东西必须建造东西。 |
| 564 | But when I was in high school and I was involved | 但当我在高中,我参与 |
| 565 | in certain things, I was talking to my friends about like, | 在某些事情上,我和我的朋友说, |
| 566 | let's get a wholesale license and build this company. | 让我们获得批发许可证 并建设这家公司。 |
| 567 | We probably should have done it, | 我们也许应该这样做, |
| 568 | would have done very well. | 本来会做得非常好的 |
| 569 | We didn't, I listened too much and we didn't do it. | 我们没有,我听的太多了,我们没有这样做。 |
| 570 | But then I went in the direction of another thing. | 但后来我又向另一个方向去了. |
| 571 | And then when I was running my lab, I'm tenured, | 然后当我运行我的实验室, 我任。 |
| 572 | I'm at Stanford, everything's going great. | 我在斯坦福 一切顺利 |
| 573 | We're publishing articles in Nature. | 我们正在发表关于自然的文章。 |
| 574 | It was a premier journal. | 这是首刊 |
| 575 | I tell my dad, I'm gonna start a podcast. | 我要开始播客播客 |
| 576 | And he was like, to his credit, he's great about it now. | 他的功劳是 他现在很出色 |
| 577 | He's been a guest on my podcast, but he's like, | 他是我播客的客人 但他喜欢... |
| 578 | I don't know that Stanford is gonna like that. | 我不知道斯坦福会喜欢的 |
| 579 | Like, how are you gonna? | 怎么样? |
| 580 | And I'm like, I don't care, I'm doing this. | 而我喜欢, 我不在乎, 我这样做。 |
| 581 | It's like you're on a, you have this feeling, | 感觉就像你站在一个,你有这种感觉, |
| 582 | this landscape of health, science, wellness, | 这种健康、科学、健康 |
| 583 | whatever it is, you just know, | 无论它是什么,你知道, |
| 584 | it could be so much better for everybody. | 这样对大家都好得多了 |
| 585 | I'm going. | 我这就去 |
| 586 | And I think that's a unique trait. | 我认为这是一个独特的特点。 |
| 587 | And I think it involves a certain amount of | 我认为这涉及到一定数量 |
| 588 | no other option type feeling in your body. | 身体里没有别的选择类型 |
| 589 | It's like you feel pulled towards it. | 就像你觉得被拉近了 |
| 590 | And I think the hard part for people who are in this category | 我觉得对于这个类别的人来说 最难的是 |
| 591 | are when they feel these valleys of I'm not as driven | 当他们觉得这些山谷 我不像驱动 |
| 592 | or like things are not going as well. | 或者说事情不会进展顺利 |
| 593 | And I can tell you having been in a long scientific career | 我可以告诉你在科学生涯中 |
| 594 | and now podcasting for, you know, six years or so, | 现在播客,你知道,六年左右, |
| 595 | how long have you been podcasting? | 你播播了多长时间了? |
| 596 | There's 50. | 有五十门. |
| 597 | Great. | 不错 |
| 598 | So we're colleagues, peers and colleagues. | 所以我们是同事,同行和同事. |
| 599 | You know, there's natural cycles, you know, | 你知道,有 自然循环,你知道, |
| 600 | YouTube算法稍有变化。 | |
| 601 | The post, Bob, I know his video, like things change, | 帖子,鲍勃,我知道他的视频, 喜欢事情的变化, |
| 602 | experts, like, and it goes, and it's being all part | 专家一样,它去, 它是所有的一部分 |
| 603 | of being a pro is being able to tolerate those dips | 成为职业者 能够忍受这些浸泡 |
| 604 | in one area where other areas are going great. | 在一个地区,其他地区正在发展。 |
| 605 | And then all of a sudden you're on a rocket ship again. | 然后突然你又上火箭飞船了 |
| 606 | And that just comes with maturity. | 而这只是随着成熟。 |
| 607 | But quitting was never an option. | 但退出绝不是一个选择。 |
| 608 | Never an option. | 绝对不行 |
| 609 | But see, you don't get that quitting as an option | 但是,你看,你不 得到退出作为一个选择 |
| 610 | because you're wired that way, right? | 因为你被窃听了 对吧? |
| 611 | Same as with me, but there are some people who quit. | 和我一样 但有些人辞职了 |
| 612 | And I would ask them with kindness, do you really want it? | 我会用善意问他们 你真的想要吗? |
| 613 | Or is this, or are you in the wrong domain? | 还是你搞错了? |
| 614 | Maybe you want it, but you need to think about what it is. | 也许你想要它, 但你需要思考它是什么。 |
| 615 | Like, and it's tough because in years, | 喜欢,这是艰难的 因为几年, |
| 616 | that's years one, two and three, | 这是第一,二和三年, |
| 617 | it does take an extreme output to see how far you can go. | 它确实需要一个极端的输出 看你可以走多远。 |
| 618 | But until you've given something, you know, | 但直到你给了什么,你知道, |
| 619 | three years of really solid effort, | 三年的扎实努力, |
| 620 | bordering on extreme effort, | 与众不同的是, |
| 621 | you don't know where it can go. | 你根本不知道它能跑到哪里去 |
| 622 | True. | 没错 |
| 623 | You don't really know. | 你真的不知道吗? |
| 624 | And it's tough because not everyone can do that. | 这很困难,因为不是每个人都能做到这一点。 |
| 625 | You know, suddenly they find themselves with a new child | 你知道,他们突然发现自己有了一个新孩子 |
| 626 | at home and then the certain, | 在家里,然后确定, |
| 627 | although many people have made it work anyway. | 虽然很多人都让它成功 |
| 628 | Let me be specific. | 让我说清楚。 |
| 629 | And you explain to me what's going on in the brain | 你给我解释一下大脑里发生了什么 |
| 630 | because you used a while ago, | 因为你刚才用了一段时间, |
| 631 | you used the word risk taking. | 你用了冒险这个词 |
| 632 | Some people are like that. | 有些人就是这样 |
| 633 | They just go at it. | 他们只是去。 |
| 634 | And then we were talking about another situation | 然后我们谈论另一个情况 |
| 635 | where a lot of people have dreams to do certain things, | 那里很多人都有做某些事情的梦想 |
| 636 | right? | 对吧? |
| 637 | So let me be very specific that if there are two people | 所以,让我非常具体地说,如果有两个人 |
| 638 | and they want to do something risky in their life, | 他们想在生活中做一些危险的事, |
| 639 | one sees that risk and jumps and then goes and does it anyway. | 人们看到风险和跳跃,然后去做它反正。 |
| 640 | The another thinks about it, plans about it, | 另外一个人想着它,计划着它, |
| 641 | and just about to take a jump, | 马上就要跳了 |
| 642 | but then freezes and does not take the risk. | 但是,然后冻结 不承担风险。 |
| 643 | What happens in the brain of that person who's freezing | 在那个冷冻的人的大脑里会发生什么 |
| 644 | and not taking the risk? | 而不冒险? |
| 645 | Yeah, it's a great question. | 是啊,这是一个伟大的问题。 |
| 646 | Well, we can put science to it. | 我们可以把科学投入其中。 |
| 647 | There's a really nice paper about the neuroscience | 有一篇关于神经科学的好论文 |
| 648 | of choking, but not choking, choking, | 窒息,但不窒息, |
| 649 | meaning when the stakes get really high and you blow it. | 意思是当赌注高了 你就搞砸了 |
| 650 | And it's a beautiful experiment | 是个漂亮的实验 |
| 651 | and it shows that when you have the opportunity | 它表明当你有机会 |
| 652 | to do something and get a little reward, you rarely choke. | 做点什么和得到一点回报, 你很少窒息。 |
| 653 | When the rewards go up and up and up | 当报酬不断提高 |
| 654 | and you start thinking about what you stand to gain, | 你开始思考 你将获得什么, |
| 655 | not what you stand to lose, | 而不是你所失去的, |
| 656 | the brain over recruits neurons in motor cortex | 大脑超过运动皮层中的新人神经元 |
| 657 | and very skilled people miss. | 和非常熟练的人错过。 |
| 658 | It's fascinating. | 令人着迷. |
| 659 | And this carries over to people in the world of finance | 金融界的人们也因此受益 |
| 660 | and all sorts of things. | 和各种东西。 |
| 661 | So it's not that they're, so at a neurological level, | 所以,这不是他们, 所以在神经层面, |
| 662 | maybe even at a cognitive level, | 也许在认知层面, |
| 663 | the freezing comes from thinking too much | 冰冻来自思考太多 |
| 664 | about how good it could go, how well it could turn out. | 关于它能有多好, 如何好结果。 |
| 665 | It becomes overwhelming. | 它变得压倒一切。 |
| 666 | The stakes are so high. | 利害甚高. |
| 667 | So lower the stakes, lower the stakes in your mind. | 所以,降低赌注,降低你心中的赌注。 |
| 668 | This is why, you know, I love, you know, | 这就是为什么,你知道, 我爱,你知道, |
| 669 | some of these phrases are just cliches, | 其中一些短语只是陈词滥调, |
| 670 | but there've been times in my career, | 但我事业中曾经有过很多次 |
| 671 | like my podcast is doing very well, | 就像我的播客做的很好, |
| 672 | but then I had this book I needed to finish. | 但我有本书要完成 |
| 673 | It's a long book. | 长篇大论. |
| 674 | It's almost 650 pages. | 近650页. |
| 675 | It's like seven books collapsed into one. | 这就像七本书崩溃成一本。 |
| 676 | The protocols. | 协议 |
| 677 | Yeah, so that people could read a hundred pages on sleep | 是啊,这样人们可以读一百页的睡眠 |
| 678 | and have their sleep worked out or stress or exercise. | 并有他们的睡眠 调整或压力或运动。 |
| 679 | I don't expect anyone to read it all the way through, right? | 我不指望有人读完,对吧? |
| 680 | You'd fall asleep. | 你会睡着了。 |
| 681 | So cure insomnia, but doing that in parallel | 所以,治疗失眠, 但这样做平行 |
| 682 | with the podcast was a lot. | 播客是很多。 |
| 683 | And so the mindset in my mind was chop wood, carry water, | 所以我脑海里的心态是砍木头 运水 |
| 684 | which is a phrase which just means some days | 这句话只是指一些日子 |
| 685 | you don't think about why you just chop wood, carry water. | 你不考虑为什么你只是砍木头, 携带水。 |
| 686 | This is how you keep a village going, right? | 这就是你如何维持一个村庄,对不对? |
| 687 | Chop wood, carry water. | 切木,运水. |
| 688 | And I said, I'm doing this simply | 我说,我这样做很简单 |
| 689 | because I said I would chop wood, carry water. | 因为我说我会砍木头 带水 |
| 690 | Resentments would come up. | 会有悔恨的 |
| 691 | Why'd I do this? | 我为什么要这么做? |
| 692 | I don't know, I can get out of this. | 我不知道,我可以摆脱这一切。 |
| 693 | Push that aside, chop wood, carry water. | 推到一边,砍柴,拿水 |
| 694 | Took time, took much longer than I'd thought, | 花时间,花的时间比我想象的要长得多, |
| 695 | but you get there. | 但你会到达那里。 |
| 696 | What was I doing? | 我当时在做什么? |
| 697 | I was just lowering the stakes. | 我只是降低赌注。 |
| 698 | Just do it today. | 今只办. |
| 699 | Just today, one more day, one more day. | 就在今天,再过一天,再过一天 |
| 700 | I think when people get to that place | 我想当人们到达那个地方 |
| 701 | where they could do something and they freeze, | 在那里他们可以做一些事情 他们冻结, |
| 702 | they're imagining how great it could go. | 他们想象着它有多伟大 |
| 703 | We think they're imagining how terrible it could go, | 我们认为他们在想象那会有多可怕 |
| 704 | but what causes us to choke is, oh my goodness, | 但是什么让我们窒息, 哦,我的天啊, |
| 705 | like so much is at stake. | 如此之多 事关重大。 |
| 706 | If I can't do this, I can't do anything. | 如是等无我法. |
| 707 | So they're psyching themselves out. | 因此,他们正在激动自己。 |
| 708 | So lower the stakes. | 故降其利害. |
| 709 | Give it, go all in instead of for three years, | 给它,去所有 而不是三年, |
| 710 | go all in for three days and then quit. | 三天后就辞职了 |
| 711 | Talk to me after three days. | 三天后跟我说话 |
| 712 | If you survive three days, you can survive three more days. | 如果你活了3天,你可以再活3天。 |
| 713 | You survive those three days, | 这三天你活下来了 |
| 714 | another three days and just keep going. | 再过三天就继续 |
| 715 | Lower, like bring the horizon in, | 低一点,好像带地平线进来一样, |
| 716 | bring the time horizon in. | 把时间线带进来 |
| 717 | That's the way to do it. | 以此为道. |
| 718 | Now the person who just jumps, | 现在刚刚跳的人, |
| 719 | we love and admire those people. | 我们爱并钦佩这些人。 |
| 720 | You did it, I did it, but the timing has to be right too. | 你做到了,我做到了, 但时机也必须对。 |
| 721 | You can't be reckless. | 不可轻率. |
| 722 | You can't be haphazard. | 你不能乱来 |
| 723 | We know this, right? | 我们知道这一点,对不对? |
| 724 | That's how you get yourself killed in the physical endeavors | 这就是你如何在身体努力中自杀的原因 |
| 725 | and that's how you lose everything | 这就是你失去一切的原因 |
| 726 | in financial endeavors, right? | 在金融努力,对不对? |
| 727 | You know, what is it? | 你知道,这是什么? |
| 728 | I think it's like the Warren Buffett saying, | 我觉得就像沃伦·巴菲特说的 |
| 729 | three things kill men in finance. | 三事杀财. |
| 730 | 犹如酒 liquor. | |
| 731 | Ladies, if they're not faithful, | 女士们,如果他们不忠诚, |
| 732 | they have crazy dating life and this kind of thing | 他们有疯狂的约会生活 和这种事情 |
| 733 | and leverage, they over leverage. | 和杠杆,他们超越杠杆。 |
| 734 | I mean, you can take on too much risk and lose, right? | 我的意思是,你可以承担太多 风险和输,对不对? |
| 735 | And the other two, the first two there, | 另外两个,前两个在那里, |
| 736 | it's worth mentioning, | 值得一提的是, |
| 737 | I've studied many stories of success | 我研究了许多成功的故事 |
| 738 | in the creative arts, in science, | 在创作艺术, 在科学, |
| 739 | and to some extent, even in podcasting now, | 在某种程度上,即使是播客现在, |
| 740 | the excesses that people bring about | 人们带来的过度 |
| 741 | when they start to do really well | 当他们开始做得很好 |
| 742 | are often what take them down. | 经常是击倒他们的原因 |
| 743 | Overspending, drugs, you know, | 超支,毒品,你知道, |
| 744 | I mean, like we've watched | 我的意思是,就像我们已经看 |
| 745 | this recent Conor McGregor thing, | 最近康纳·麦格雷戈的事 |
| 746 | this guy was at the pinnacle, right? | 这家伙在顶峰,对不对? |
| 747 | And I don't know what his specific issues were, | 我不知道他有什么问题 |
| 748 | but too much money, too many resources, | 但是太多的钱,太多的资源, |
| 749 | not enough people around you to keep you in check | 你身边的人不够 无法控制你 |
| 750 | and somebody can collapse. | 有人会崩溃的 |
| 751 | It's very easy to see and to recognize | 很容易看见和认出来 |
| 752 | when somebody has a substance abuse issue | 当某人有药物滥用问题时 |
| 753 | or if they have a behavioral regulation issue | 或者他们有行为规范问题 |
| 754 | and they're like getting in fights in bars | 他们就像在酒吧打架 |
| 755 | or things like that, you know, | 或者那样的事情,你知道, |
| 756 | which sadly happen to a number of people | 不幸发生在很多人身上 |
| 757 | who are like pro athletes. | 他们就像职业运动员。 |
| 758 | But the excesses are also excesses of ego | 但过度也是自我的过度 |
| 759 | where people think, oh, like I won the last, | 人们认为,哦,像我赢得了最后, |
| 760 | I built 10 companies, I can build 10 more. | 我建了10家公司,我可以再建10家公司。 |
| 761 | How about one more better than all the other 10, right? | 比其他十人多一个怎么样? |
| 762 | This is where I do think, like him or hate him, | 这就是我的想法, 像他或恨他, |
| 763 | I think Elon is particularly impressive | 我觉得伊隆特别厉害 |
| 764 | because he goes for big things, | 因为他喜欢大事 |
| 765 | but he knows himself, he can manage all this stuff. | 但他知道自己,他可以管理这些东西。 |
| 766 | You know, you said about people who get it, | 你知道,你说的人谁得到它, |
| 767 | it's about their ego and then power | 这是关于他们的自我 然后权力 |
| 768 | and then they kind of, | 然后他们有点, |
| 769 | because they have all excessive things, | 因为他们有许多过分的事物, |
| 770 | they start losing it. | 他们开始失去它。 |
| 771 | And attention. | 和关注。 |
| 772 | So I was reading a research very recently | 所以我最近读了一篇研究 |
| 773 | and I'm courtly paraphrasing it. | 我直言不讳 |
| 774 | It was about power. | 这是关于权力。 |
| 775 | Like people who get so much power, | 就像那些拥有如此强大力量的人 |
| 776 | what power does to your brain | 力量对大脑有何影响 |
| 777 | is equivalent to somewhat of trauma. | 相当于某种程度的创伤。 |
| 778 | Like 20 years of research they did, | 就像他们20年的研究一样 |
| 779 | I can't remember the specifics, | 我记不清细节了 |
| 780 | but if you're given power, | 但如果你得到权力 |
| 781 | your brain literally changes as if it changes in trauma. | 你的大脑就像在创伤中改变 |
| 782 | Interesting. | 有意思,这很有趣 |
| 783 | Like you get more impulsive, | 像你变得更冲动, |
| 784 | you start losing sense of reality. | 你开始失去现实感 |
| 785 | All of these things starting to happen, | 所有这些事情 开始发生, |
| 786 | your decisions start getting worse and worse. | 你的决定越来越糟糕 |
| 787 | And the more and more powerful you get, | 你越发强大 |
| 788 | all of these things start happening to you. | 这一切开始发生在你身上。 |
| 789 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 790 | Well, the world enforces us. | 这个世界强制我们 |
| 791 | It makes me think, you know, when kids are young, | 它让我觉得,你知道, 当孩子年轻, |
| 792 | and especially with adolescents, | 特别是针对青少年, |
| 793 | like many years ago, I was like a camp counselor. | 就像很多年前,我就像一个营地顾问。 |
| 794 | And you see this thing with adolescents | 你可以看到这个东西与青少年 |
| 795 | is they're constantly taking things to the, | 他们经常带东西去... |
| 796 | they're like testing the edges, right? | 他们就像测试边缘,对不对? |
| 797 | But deep down they want you | 但内心深处他们想要你 |
| 798 | and you need to keep them safe. | 你要保护他们的安全 |
| 799 | And small kids are like this. | 小孩子就是这样的 |
| 800 | They'll sort of go to an edge of a thing | 他们会去一个边缘的东西 |
| 801 | and they'll look to their parents, | 他们会看着他们的父母, |
| 802 | like, are you looking out for me, right? | 喜欢,你在照顾我,对不对? |
| 803 | I mean, as we get more power, more freedom, | 我的意思是,当我们得到更多的力量,更多的自由, |
| 804 | we sometimes like we test it, | 我们有时喜欢我们测试它, |
| 805 | but yeah, life has its own way of correcting these things. | 但是,生活有自己的方法 纠正这些事情。 |
| 806 | It's tricky because I don't want people to feel like | 这很棘手,因为我不想让人觉得 |
| 807 | as they gain success that they should, you know, | 随着他们的成功 他们应该,你知道, |
| 808 | just sit in their chair and keep working. | 坐在他们的椅子上继续工作 |
| 809 | For some people, the reward is the work. | 对有些人来说,奖励就是工作. |
| 810 | And I think it is important to make the work | 我认为重要的是要 使工作 |
| 811 | a significant fraction of the reward. | 相当一部分的奖励 |
| 812 | Otherwise you can't keep it up. | 否则你没法坚持下去 |
| 813 | You can't just do something just for money. | 你不能只是为了钱而做点什么 |
| 814 | Unless you, listen, I know some investors, | 除非你 听着 我知道一些投资者 |
| 815 | they will say it, they love money. | 他们会说,他们喜欢钱。 |
| 816 | Why do they, why do they love money? | 为什么他们喜欢钱? |
| 817 | I don't know, maybe they grew up poor, | 我不知道,也许他们长大了贫穷, |
| 818 | maybe they just love money. | 也许他们只是爱钱。 |
| 819 | They like investing, they like winning, | 他们喜欢投资 他们喜欢赢 |
| 820 | but they like earning it. | 但他们喜欢挣钱 |
| 821 | They don't like, they like earning it more | 他们不喜欢,他们喜欢赚更多 |
| 822 | than they like spending it. | 而不是他们喜欢花它。 |
| 823 | It's so cool. | 真凉爽 |
| 824 | It's like a game. | 如游戏. |
| 825 | It's like a video game for them. | 对他们来说就像电子游戏 |
| 826 | For me, I love learning and I love teaching. | 对我来说,我喜欢学习,我喜欢教学。 |
| 827 | So for me, learning and teaching, | 所以对我来说,学习和教学, |
| 828 | that's the process. | 这就是过程。 |
| 829 | And anything that comes of that, | 不管从那里得到什么 |
| 830 | whether or not it's recognition or any financial returns | 无论是承认还是任何财务回报 |
| 831 | are just icing. | 仅仅是冰块。 |
| 832 | But people naturally start to focus on, | 但人们自然开始关注 |
| 833 | oh, well, if I do this thing, | 哦,好吧,如果我这样做, |
| 834 | that's a good business decision. | 这是一个很好的商业决定。 |
| 835 | This will be good for me and my family. | 这对我和我的家人都有好处 |
| 836 | I mean, we can have multiple incentives and motivations, | 我的意思是,我们可以有多种激励和动机, |
| 837 | but we have to stay attached to the core thing. | 但我们必须保持对核心事物的依赖。 |
| 838 | The core thing, like the work of it, the essence, | 核心的东西,就像它的工作,本质, |
| 839 | the learning and the teaching for me. | 学习和教导我。 |
| 840 | Like I'm constantly looking for new information | 就像我一直在寻找新的信息 |
| 841 | I think could be of use. | 我觉得可能有用 |
| 842 | This conversation is stimulating thought. | 这段对话令人兴奋。 |
| 843 | I mean, I am very intrigued by this family model. | 我的意思是,我很感兴趣 这个家庭模式。 |
| 844 | I think it's really beautiful, | 我觉得它真的很漂亮, |
| 845 | but I'm going to think about that more, what it means, | 但我会考虑的更多, 这是什么意思, |
| 846 | what could be adopted for people | 哪些可以被人们采纳 |
| 847 | who don't have the access to that, | 谁不能接触到, |
| 848 | what components might be useful or replicable, | 哪些组件可能有用或可复制, |
| 849 | and other things you said. | 还有你说的其他话 |
| 850 | Like I think, because for me, | 就像我想的那样 因为对我来说 |
| 851 | learning and thinking and teaching is what it's about. | 学与思与教是其义. |
| 852 | I do think if somebody's doing really well, | 我觉得如果有人真的做得很好 |
| 853 | you would hate for them to think, | 你恨他们想, |
| 854 | oh, well, now it's all going to just come crashing down. | 现在一切都会崩溃了 |
| 855 | No, you can make really good decisions. | 不,你可以做出非常好的决定。 |
| 856 | And one of the best ways to do that | 也是最好的办法之一 |
| 857 | is to have a committee of people. | 要有一个人委员会。 |
| 858 | You should not be making all the decisions | 你不应该做所有的决定 |
| 859 | about your life in the confines of your skull. | 关于你的生命 在你的头骨的边缘。 |
| 860 | You need people that you respect, not for every decision, | 你需要你尊重的人 而不是每个决定 |
| 861 | but certain people for certain decisions | 但某些人可以做决定 |
| 862 | that you can bounce things off of. | 你可以弹出的东西了。 |
| 863 | And you don't let them make the decisions, | 你也不让他们做决定 |
| 864 | but you need to pressure test | 但你需要压力测试 |
| 865 | because we can dilute ourselves, right? | 因为我们可以淡化自己,对不对? |
| 866 | But there also comes a time when you just say, | 但有时你只是说, |
| 867 | I'm going to ignore everybody, I'm going to do this. | 我要忽略所有人,我会做到这一点。 |
| 868 | And if it doesn't work out, you got your lesson. | 如果失败了,你得到教训了 |
| 869 | And if it does work out, which often it does, | 如果它确实成功, 而它经常这样做, |
| 870 | you go, okay, now you're what we call a leader. | 你去吧,好吧,现在你是我们所说的领袖。 |
| 871 | You have knowledge and experience that they don't have. | 你有他们没有的知识和经验 |
| 872 | And that's a great place to find yourself. | 那是个好地方 找到你自己。 |
| 873 | And as I described this, I'm thinking, | 正如我所描述的,我想, |
| 874 | there's probably some people | 可能会有人 |
| 875 | who are not even starting to build their business | 他们甚至没有开始 建立他们的生意 |
| 876 | or build their life. | 或建立他们的生活。 |
| 877 | Everything we're talking about is accessible. | 我们所说的一切都是无障碍的。 |
| 878 | It truly is accessible. | 它确实是无障碍的。 |
| 879 | You take care of your physical body | 照顾好身体 |
| 880 | and your biological rhythms. | 还有你的生理节奏 |
| 881 | You, if you can't get all the exercise every week, | 你,如果你不能得到 所有的运动每周, |
| 882 | you get some, you lean into some mission, | 你得到一些,你靠 在一些任务, |
| 883 | some adventure that stands to have a payoff. | 冒险是值得回报的 |
| 884 | You avoid the excesses. | 你避免过份。 |
| 885 | You don't get into extremes of work and partying. | 你不会进入极端的工作和聚会。 |
| 886 | You don't get into extremes of anything, | 你没有进入极端的东西, |
| 887 | except maybe in that first three years, you go all in. | 但也许在头三年里,你都进去了 |
| 888 | I've never seen it fail. | 我从没见过失败 |
| 889 | And that's true across cultures. | 不同文化之间都是如此。 |
| 890 | Now there are some areas of the world that are very like, | 现在,世界上有些地方非常喜欢, |
| 891 | where people just cannot move | 在人们无法移动的地方 |
| 892 | because of like very oppressive regimes and things like that. | 因为像非常压迫性的政权之类的事 |
| 893 | But that's not what we're talking about. | 但是,这不是我们所说的。 |
| 894 | And I think people should spend a bit of time | 我觉得人们应该花点时间 |
| 895 | thinking about what's really true for them | 想想对他们真实的事物 |
| 896 | and what they want to pursue. | 和他们所追求的。 |
| 897 | It's also just good to go after something in the short term. | 短期内去追求一些东西也是件好事. |
| 898 | Just get really good at something. | 只是得到真正的 擅长的东西。 |
| 899 | And then it allows you to pivot into the next thing | 这样你就能进入下一步 |
| 900 | because the process is the same. | 因为过程是一样的。 |
| 901 | But do you think we have to try doing this constantly | 但是,你认为我们必须尝试 不断这样做 |
| 902 | in order to achieve something? | 为了达到目的? |
| 903 | Like all these protocols, trying to win, | 像所有这些协议,试图赢得, |
| 904 | trying to do something, | 试图做一些事情, |
| 905 | because isn't our brain designed to just keep us alive, | 因为我们的大脑不是用来让我们活着的 |
| 906 | not make us thrive in life? | 不让我们在生活中蓬勃发展? |
| 907 | I think humans are different. | 我认为人类不同 |
| 908 | I think humans were afforded | 我认为人类被给予 |
| 909 | all the areas of the brain for survival, | 大脑的所有生存领域, |
| 910 | but we have this expanded prefrontal cortex | 但我们有 扩大的前额皮层 |
| 911 | that allows us to set strategy and build things, | 使我们能够制定战略 和构建事物, |
| 912 | imagine technologies, | 想象技术, |
| 913 | take our experiences that are hard for people with traumas, | 接受我们的痛苦经历 对于有创伤的人, |
| 914 | build something beautiful out of that. | 做点美事 |
| 915 | Take our experiences that were loving and supportive | 带着我们爱和支持的经验 |
| 916 | and afforded us incredible opportunities, | 为我们提供了不可思议的机会, |
| 917 | build something beautiful out of that. | 做点美事 |
| 918 | I mean, this is the story of human history. | 这就是人类历史的故事 |
| 919 | We are different. | 我们不同 |
| 920 | We are not just about survival. | 我们不仅仅是关于生存。 |
| 921 | The moment our basic needs are met, we have two options. | 一旦我们的基本需要得到满足,我们有两个选择。 |
| 922 | We either can get anxious | 我们两个都可以紧张 |
| 923 | and dissolve into a puddle of our own anxious thoughts, | 并溶入我们自己焦虑的思绪, |
| 924 | or we can take those anxieties | 或者我们可以拿这些焦虑 |
| 925 | and funnel them into doing something which advances us. | 让他们做一些能推动我们的事 |
| 926 | This is a binary choice. | 这是一个二进制的选择。 |
| 927 | There is no in-between. | 之间没有间断 |
| 928 | Most people bounce back and forth a little bit naturally | 大多数人自然地反弹 |
| 929 | at two or three in the morning | 凌晨两三点 |
| 930 | when they wake up, everyone does it. | 当他们醒来,每个人都这样做。 |
| 931 | But on average, you want to be veering | 但是,平均来说,你想要 吃肉 |
| 932 | into that right lane of doing something. | 进入正确的道路 做一些事情。 |
| 933 | The anxiety, oftentimes, not always, but oftentimes, | 焦虑,常常, 并不总是,但常常, |
| 934 | I would even say the majority of the time | 我甚至可以说大部分时间 |
| 935 | is not because we have this impending thing | 不是因为我们有 即将发生的事情 |
| 936 | that's bad that's going to happen. | 这会很糟的 |
| 937 | It's because we're fed, we're rested, we're watered, | 因为我们吃饱了 休息了 喝水了 |
| 938 | we have enough social connection, | 我们有足够的社会联系, |
| 939 | and now we need to do something with this additional energy. | 现在我们需要用这种额外的能量做一些事情。 |
| 940 | And so we have to grab ahold of our mind, | 所以我们得抓住我们的头脑, |
| 941 | grab ahold of our bodies, | 抓住我们的尸体, |
| 942 | and take it someplace regimented. | 把它带去一个团团的地方 |
| 943 | And it's hard. | 则难. |
| 944 | You know, yesterday I had a conversation | 你知道,昨天我有一个谈话 |
| 945 | with someone on the podcast. | 和播客有关系 |
| 946 | We were talking about flow states. | 我们在谈论流动状态。 |
| 947 | Such a compelling thing, go into flow. | 这么有说服力的东西,开始流动。 |
| 948 | And he said, no, no, no. | 他说,不,不,不。 |
| 949 | In the world of high performance, | 在表现优异的世界里 |
| 950 | we now talk about clutch states. | 我们现在谈论离合器状态。 |
| 951 | I'd never heard of this. | 我从来没有听说过这个。 |
| 952 | I said, what's clutch state? | 我说,什么是离合器状态? |
| 953 | I'm a neuroscientist. | 我是神经科学家 |
| 954 | I've heard of flow states. | 闻流州. |
| 955 | To clutch states are the states | 离合国就是州 |
| 956 | of forcing oneself to do something | 强迫自己做一些事情 |
| 957 | at that kind of edge of friction and effort | 在那种摩擦和努力的边缘 |
| 958 | that most athletes, investors, high performers, | 大部分运动员,投资者,高成绩者, |
| 959 | business people live in 90% of their waking hours. | 90%的营业时间都在他们醒着的时候生活。 |
| 960 | And I was like, finally, someone described my life, right? | 我最后想,有人描述了我的生活,对不对? |
| 961 | Now, right now in this, I'm enjoying this, | 瞷и尺舧硂 |
| 962 | but I can tell a little bit the way that your mind works | 但我能分辨出你的思维方式 |
| 963 | is like you're also trying to enforce certain things. | 就像你还试图执行某些事情 |
| 964 | Like we're not just like having | 就像我们不只是有 |
| 965 | a meandering conversation, right? | 开口说话,对吧? |
| 966 | This isn't a philosophy, okay? | 这不是哲学,好吗? |
| 967 | The clutch state is where you have to take our energy | 离合器状态就是你必须带走我们的能量的地方 |
| 968 | and our anxiety and funnel ourselves into it. | 和我们的焦虑 和我们自己进入它。 |
| 969 | And I think that it's such a beautiful concept | 我觉得这个概念太美了 |
| 970 | because flow is like, okay, that comes every once in a while | 因为流动就像,好吧, 偶尔来一次 |
| 971 | in years, seven, eight, nine and beyond | 年数,七,八,九及以后 |
| 972 | when you already achieved mastery | 当你已经掌握了 |
| 973 | because you can be unskilled, skilled, | 因为你可以不熟练,熟练, |
| 974 | mastery and virtuosity. | 精通和精通。 |
| 975 | The virtuosity, everyone wants that. | 风度,每个人都希望这样。 |
| 976 | Everyone wants that. | 每个人都希望这样 |
| 977 | But it's built on years upon years of basics | 但是,它是建立在多年 多年的基础 |
| 978 | of clutch state, clutch state, clutch state. | 离合器状态 离合器状态 离合器状态 |
| 979 | That's the state to get yourself into. | 即州令自进. |
| 980 | And then turn your mind off and relax and just keep going. | 然后把脑子关了 放松 继续走 |
| 981 | So I don't think our, I do think the purpose of humans, | 所以,我不认为我们, 我认为人类的目的, |
| 982 | well, there are many, but one of our major purposes | 有很多,但我们的主要目的之一 |
| 983 | is to take this extra mental real estate that we have, | 取回我们额外的精神房地产 |
| 984 | the extra neural real estate, | 额外的神经房地产, |
| 985 | which is our prefrontal cortex, | 这是我们的前额皮层, |
| 986 | which can think and plan and come up with ideas | 可以思考和计划 并提出想法 |
| 987 | and error correct and try things and listen to podcasts | 和错误校正, 并尝试一些事情, 听播客 |
| 988 | and books and then go and implement | 和书,然后去执行 |
| 989 | and think about what we regret, | 想想我们后悔什么 |
| 990 | take the lesson, move forward, | 上课,向前走 |
| 991 | try and cut with our losses, all of that. | 尽量减少损失,所有这一切。 |
| 992 | That's what brought us out of mud huts | 这就是我们走出泥屋的原因 |
| 993 | and where we were the prey | 而我们在哪里 猎物 |
| 994 | and how we're the curators of the earth | 以及我们如何是大地的守护者 |
| 995 | and we're building rocket ships | 我们造火箭船 |
| 996 | to take us potentially to other planets | 带我们去其他星球 |
| 997 | and we've got AI and we've got podcasts. | 我们有AI和播客。 |
| 998 | And like, I think we're here for a lot more | 喜欢,我想我们在这里 更多的 |
| 999 | than just to get by. | 不只是为过 |
| 1000 | And if people just want to get by, | 如果人们只是想过, |
| 1001 | okay, well, in certain societies, they can do that | 好吧 在某些社会 他们可以这么做 |
| 1002 | and you work, you handle your stuff, great. | 而你工作, 你处理你的东西, 太好了。 |
| 1003 | Like that's fine. | 喜欢,没关系。 |
| 1004 | But humanity as all our species has always advanced | 但是人类,正如我们所有人类 总是进步 |
| 1005 | largely on the shoulders of, I mean, everyone's important. | 基本上在肩上, 我的意思是,每个人都很重要。 |
| 1006 | Clearly everyone's a value, | 很明显,每个人都是一个价值, |
| 1007 | but has it the big advancements | 但却有重大进步 |
| 1008 | have always come through people who are like, | 总是通过 人喜欢, |
| 1009 | I've got a lot of internal agitation | 我有很多内乱 |
| 1010 | and I'm going to funnel it into something. | 我要把它输进去 |
| 1011 | And so now we have this concept of clutch states. | 现在我们有了离合器状态的概念。 |
| 1012 | Beautiful concept. | 美丽的概念。 |
| 1013 | Not relaxed. | 没有放松。 |
| 1014 | I love it. | 我喜欢它。 |
| 1015 | Yeah, I love it too. | 是啊,我也很喜欢它。 |
| 1016 | When I heard it, I was like, thank you. | 当我听到它,我很喜欢,谢谢你。 |
| 1017 | You've given me a new phrase. | 你给了我一个新的短语。 |
| 1018 | So you and I, and this guy, his name is Tommy Wood. | 你和我,还有这家伙, 他叫汤米伍德。 |
| 1019 | He's a MD PhD up at University of Washington. | 他是华盛顿大学的博士 |
| 1020 | He studies high performance and neuroplasticity. | 他研究高性能和神经弹性. |
| 1021 | We're probably among the like 10 people on the planet | 我们大概是地球上的10个人 |
| 1022 | who've heard this term. | 听说过这个术语的人 |
| 1023 | So now many more people will hear about it | 所以现在有更多的人会听到 |
| 1024 | saying thanks to your podcast. | 感谢你的播客 |
| 1025 | So, and you know, no one owns that term. | 所以,你知道,没有人拥有这个词。 |
| 1026 | Send it far and wide. | 寄远而广. |
| 1027 | I don't own it. | 我并不拥有它。 |
| 1028 | He doesn't own it. | 他不拥有它。 |
| 1029 | Send it far and wide. | 寄远而广. |
| 1030 | This is get yourself into a clutch state folks | 这是让你自己 进入离合状态的人 |
| 1031 | and build something. | 并建造一些东西。 |
| 1032 | And this one's so much better than flow state. | 这个比流动状态好多了 |
| 1033 | Yeah, the flow state thing is the expression | 是啊,流体状态的事情是表达 |
| 1034 | of something that you can already do. | 一些你已经可以做的事 |
| 1035 | It has nothing to do with learning. | 这跟学习无关 |
| 1036 | Learning is when you're making errors. | 学习就是犯错的时候 |
| 1037 | You know, a fundamental principle of neuroplasticity | 神经弹性的基本原则 |
| 1038 | is that if your nervous system can do something, | 如果你的神经系统能做点什么 |
| 1039 | there's no plasticity, there's no rewiring. | 没有可塑性,没有复线. |
| 1040 | It's the gap between your desired performance | 这是你期望的成绩差距 |
| 1041 | and your current performance that creates adrenaline. | 以及你目前创造肾上腺素的性能 |
| 1042 | It creates in your body norepinephrine in your brain | 它在你的体内 产生你的大脑中的肾上腺素 |
| 1043 | and some other neurochemicals. | 还有其他一些神经化学药物 |
| 1044 | It creates an internal chemical milieu | 它创造了一个内部化学环境 |
| 1045 | that allows neural circuits to rewire. | 允许神经电路重联 |
| 1046 | But the errors are what drive that. | 但错误是驱动它的原因。 |
| 1047 | Your nervous system goes, oh, I can't do it. | 你的神经系统开始,哦,我不能这样做。 |
| 1048 | I can't do it. | 我办不到 |
| 1049 | You go to sleep a few days later, | 你几天后去睡觉, |
| 1050 | you're doing it a bit more | 你做的有点多 |
| 1051 | and then pretty soon you've got it. | 很快你就能拿到钱了 |
| 1052 | And by the way, the best way to reinforce anything | 顺便说一句,加强一切的最佳方法 |
| 1053 | that you've learned is to self-test. | 你学到的就是自我测试 |
| 1054 | We know this from neuroscience and psychology experiments. | 我们从神经科学和心理学实验中知道这一点。 |
| 1055 | Reading, once you listen to a podcast, | 你一听播客的话 |
| 1056 | once you listen to a book, | 一旦你听一本书, |
| 1057 | the best thing that you can do is to take a walk | 你能做的最好的事就是走走 |
| 1058 | or just a few moments and just think, what did I learn? | 或者只是几秒钟 然后想想 我学到了什么? |
| 1059 | Okay, clutch state, do I know what that is? | 好吧,离合器状态,我知道那是什么吗? |
| 1060 | Just a few things here and there. | 这儿还有几件事 |
| 1061 | And where you go, I don't remember? | 你去哪儿,我不记得了? |
| 1062 | Great, go look it up. | 好极了,去查查看吧。 |
| 1063 | You'll never forget it. | 你永远不会忘记的 |
| 1064 | The learning process is about recognizing | 学习过程是承认 |
| 1065 | what you do and don't know. | 你做什么,你不知道,你还不知道。 |
| 1066 | That it's those errors that are so key. | 关键在于这些错误 |
| 1067 | Yeah, so I've never talked about those before | 是啊,所以我从来没有谈到过那些 |
| 1068 | because I just learned about them yesterday | 因为我昨天才知道 |
| 1069 | and I love the concept. | 我喜欢这个概念 |
| 1070 | Nice, I love it that we are learning something new now. | 很好,我喜欢我们现在学到一些新东西 |
| 1071 | Yeah, definitely. | 当然 |
| 1072 | Yeah, clutch states are new. | 是啊,离合器状态是新的。 |
| 1073 | I think that the, and then this whole framework | 我认为,然后这个整个框架 |
| 1074 | of like zero to three years, four to six years, | 如零到三年,四到六年, |
| 1075 | the seven and beyond, | 七岁及以上, |
| 1076 | because I don't think it's really been broken down. | 因为我不认为它真的被打破了。 |
| 1077 | I think a lot of people like, | 我认为很多人喜欢, |
| 1078 | oh, you get up and you run like David Goggins | 哦,你站起来,你跑 像大卫·戈金斯 |
| 1079 | and then you do it at 4.30 in the morning like Choco | 然后早上4点30分像Choco那样做 |
| 1080 | and then you do 50,000 protocols. | 然后你做5万协议。 |
| 1081 | No, no, no, no, no, no. | ○[标]僧问. |
| 1082 | That's not how it works. | 这不是它的工作方式。 |
| 1083 | I love it. | 我喜欢它。 |
| 1084 | Because I've only heard a few things from you | 因为我只听到你的一些事 |
| 1085 | and you always seem like | 你总是像 |
| 1086 | you're this 50,000 protocol kind of guy. | 你是这五万个协议的人 |
| 1087 | Well, my day is pretty regimented. | 我这天挺累的 |
| 1088 | I take my supplements, I get my sunlight, | 我拿我的补充剂, 我得到我的阳光, |
| 1089 | I do my hydration, I do my workouts, | 我做我的水利, 我做我的锻炼, |
| 1090 | I do my yoga nidra, I dim the lights, | 我做我的瑜伽尼德拉, 我淡灯, |
| 1091 | I do my journaling, I did my 10 breath meditation. | 我做我的日记, 我做了我的十呼吸冥想。 |
| 1092 | I get my, I do them. | 我得到我的,我做他们。 |
| 1093 | I do the big ones every single day, every single night, | 我每天都做大的,每晚都做 |
| 1094 | unless I can't, in which case I do as many as I can. | 除非我做不到 否则我会尽量多做 |
| 1095 | But I also have, yeah, I think sometimes people forget | 但我也有,是的,我想有时候人们会忘记 |
| 1096 | that I, like them, have large periods of my day | 我,和他们一样,有 大量我的日子 |
| 1097 | where I have to be in laser focus to podcast. | 我必须在激光聚焦播客。 |
| 1098 | I have to prepare podcasts for guests and solo podcasts. | 我得为客人和独播准备播客 |
| 1099 | Some of the solo podcasts are 100 hours | 有的独播百小时 |
| 1100 | or more preparation. | 或更多的准备。 |
| 1101 | It's like doing it like a master's thesis. | 如是作如是师子论文. |
| 1102 | And that's, it's tough. | 且道,其难也. |
| 1103 | And I have to tend to the rest of my life too. | 我也得照顾我的余生 |
| 1104 | So it's, I do the stuff, I do all the stuff, | 所以,它是,我做的东西, 我做所有的东西, |
| 1105 | but I'm not a robot. | 但我不是一个机器人。 |
| 1106 | And none of this is a closed loop. | 这一切都不是一个封闭的循环。 |
| 1107 | I don't do the wellness stuff | 我不做健康的东西 |
| 1108 | to just keep doing the wellness stuff. | 继续做健康的东西。 |
| 1109 | It's always been a way to support the rest of my life. | 常以此法供养余生. |
| 1110 | I'm fortunate that I like exercise, I like yoga nidra, | 我很幸运我喜欢锻炼,我喜欢瑜伽,尼德拉 |
| 1111 | I like morning sunlight, but I do all those things | 我喜欢晨光,但我做所有这些事情 |
| 1112 | to raise up the level that I can do all the other things. | 提升我所能做的一切 |
| 1113 | And I integrate them. | 我把他们融为一体。 |
| 1114 | You know, and I think this notion of health influencers | 你知道,我认为这个概念 健康影响者 |
| 1115 | has become a little bit of a thing | 变得有点小事 |
| 1116 | where that's all people do, | 在那里,这是所有的人做的, |
| 1117 | but that's not realistic for most people. | 但这对大多数人来说并不现实 |
| 1118 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 1119 | Coming back to a previous discussion, | 回到之前的讨论, |
| 1120 | I had this question, can you build courage? | 我有个问题 你能鼓起勇气吗? |
| 1121 | Can you build courage? | 你能培养勇气吗? |
| 1122 | Absolutely. | 当然 |
| 1123 | How? | 怎么会? |
| 1124 | Absolutely. | 当然 |
| 1125 | Yeah, incremental. | 是啊,渐进。 |
| 1126 | You get people to their edge of agitation | 你让人们陷入他们的刺激边缘 |
| 1127 | and you let them just live their life. | 你让他们过自己的生活 |
| 1128 | For someone who's not courageous, | 对于一个不勇敢的人, |
| 1129 | can they do something today | 他们今天能做些什么吗? |
| 1130 | or maybe start doing something from today | 或者从今天开始做点什么 |
| 1131 | which will help them become courageous? | 那能帮助他们勇敢吗? |
| 1132 | If they want to, if they want to become courageous, | 如果他们想,如果他们想变得勇敢, |
| 1133 | I mean, as cliche as it sounds, | 我的意思是,像它听起来的陈词滥调, |
| 1134 | the cold water thing is it builds mental resilience. | 冷水的东西 是它建立 精神复原能力。 |
| 1135 | And the reason is that it is a very reliable | 原因是它是一个非常可靠的 |
| 1136 | and provided you don't make it too cold, | 只要你不让它太冷, |
| 1137 | you just do cold shower, | 你只要洗个冷水澡 |
| 1138 | it really does consistently, reliably | 它的确是一贯的,可靠的 |
| 1139 | cause a fast release of adrenaline. | 导致肾上腺素快速释放 |
| 1140 | And all of anxiety and stress | 和所有的焦虑和压力 |
| 1141 | involves this like deployment of adrenaline in the body | 这就像在体内注射肾上腺素 |
| 1142 | that makes us feel agitated. | 这让我们感到兴奋。 |
| 1143 | Our prefrontal cortex is lowered in activity | 我们的前额皮层活动减少 |
| 1144 | for the first 20 or 30 seconds. | 头20或30秒。 |
| 1145 | It's harder to strategize. | 更难谋略. |
| 1146 | We just want to go anywhere except where we're at. | 我们只是想去任何地方 除了我们在哪里。 |
| 1147 | And the goal that the resilience training | 以及复原训练的目标 |
| 1148 | is to learn to just ride out that first 20, 30 seconds. | 学着骑着前20到30秒 |
| 1149 | Then adrenaline starts to subside. | 然后肾上腺素开始减弱 |
| 1150 | But the way that I suggest people do | 但我建议人们这样做的方式 |
| 1151 | deliberate cold exposure is different than most. | 故意的冷暴露与大多数情况不同。 |
| 1152 | I think people should pick a certain number | 我想人们应该选一个数字 |
| 1153 | of what I call walls. | 我称之为墙壁。 |
| 1154 | So maybe like five walls | 所以也许像五面墙 |
| 1155 | and maybe the first wall to go over | 也许是第一个翻墙 |
| 1156 | is just getting in the cold shower. | 刚刚在寒冷的淋浴。 |
| 1157 | Then it's, instead of counting or going for time, | 然后,它不是数 或去的时间, |
| 1158 | you sense when you really want to get out, | 你感觉到 当你真的想出去, |
| 1159 | that's another wall, you stay in just one more. | 那是另一面墙 你再呆一阵子 |
| 1160 | Then you can kind of get comfortable. | 这样你就可以舒服了 |
| 1161 | Then you wait until you really want to get out again, | 那你就等着再出去吧 |
| 1162 | you go over that wall again. | 你又翻墙了 |
| 1163 | And what you'll notice is those are waves of adrenaline, | 你会注意到这些是肾上腺素的波浪 |
| 1164 | which is much more realistic. | 这是更现实的。 |
| 1165 | It's much more like the real world | 更像现实世界 |
| 1166 | where you're doing public speaking, | 你公开演讲的地方 |
| 1167 | where you're not going for time. | 在那里你不会去的时间。 |
| 1168 | You're not trying to relax for three minutes. | 三分钟内你不会放松的 |
| 1169 | You're trying to deal with whatever comes your way. | 你试图处理你的方式。 |
| 1170 | And so you can learn to be resilient | 这样你就能学会适应力 |
| 1171 | to your own physiology. | 给自己的生理学。 |
| 1172 | And again, provided it's not an ice cold bath | 再说一遍 只要不是冰冷的浴池 |
| 1173 | and you don't want to become hypothermic, | 你不希望 变得低温, |
| 1174 | don't stay in longer than three minutes. | 不要停留超过三分钟。 |
| 1175 | Cold shower is fine. | 冷淋浴没事 |
| 1176 | But you can build in a lot of resilience. | 但是,你可以建立 在很多的复原力。 |
| 1177 | Earlier we were talking about workouts, | 之前我们讨论的是健身 |
| 1178 | but you could do this with anything. | 但你可以做任何事情。 |
| 1179 | Like the other day I was doing a workout in my gym | 就像那天我在健身房锻炼一样 |
| 1180 | and it was really warm. | 它真的很温暖。 |
| 1181 | And I was about to walk over and turn on the AC | 我正要走过去打开空调 |
| 1182 | and I'm like, no, let's make it hotter. | 我很喜欢,不,让我们让它更热。 |
| 1183 | Turn on the heat, do two more sets, | 打开热量,再做两套 |
| 1184 | best sets I had in ages. | 我几岁了,最好的套装 |
| 1185 | Little resilience training, like just make, | 一点点的复原训练,像只是制造, |
| 1186 | I'm not a masochist, let's just make it, | 我不是受虐狂 我们来做吧 |
| 1187 | let's not always go for comfort. | 我们不要总是去安慰。 |
| 1188 | Let's just make it a little hot, harder, not easier. | 让我们让它有点热, 更难,不是更容易。 |
| 1189 | And then I showered and I swear the rest of my day | 然后我洗了澡,我发誓我的余生 |
| 1190 | was so much better. | 感觉好多了 |
| 1191 | Some days it's the opposite. | 有些时候情况恰恰相反。 |
| 1192 | I'm just like, I need air conditioning. | 我只是喜欢, 我需要空调。 |
| 1193 | Some days, it depends. | 有时候,这取决于。 |
| 1194 | I know it can get very hot and humid | 我知道它会变得非常炎热潮湿 |
| 1195 | in certain parts of India. | 在印度某些地区。 |
| 1196 | So, you know, so I don't always do that, | 所以,你知道, 所以我不总是这样做, |
| 1197 | but occasionally during the workout, | 但偶尔在锻炼期间, |
| 1198 | I'll warm up, I'll listen to music, | 我热身,听音乐 |
| 1199 | I'm working out or listening to, | 我在工作或听话, |
| 1200 | and then I go, you know what, silence. | 然后,我走了, 你知道吗,沉默。 |
| 1201 | I just want to focus as much as humanly possible | 我只想尽可能多地集中精神 |
| 1202 | on every repetition. | 每次重复时 |
| 1203 | But after three, four sets of that, | 但三,四组之后, |
| 1204 | I want to go back to listening to some music. | 我想回去听音乐 |
| 1205 | And then I know that in the tail end of a workout | 然后我知道在运动的尾部 |
| 1206 | is typically when people get hurt, | 通常当人们受到伤害, |
| 1207 | front end and tail end, because you're kind of distracted. | 前端和尾端, 因为你有点分心。 |
| 1208 | So I turned off the music and I'm just going to go | 所以我关掉了音乐,我就走了 |
| 1209 | for just really focus. | 只是真正专心。 |
| 1210 | It's like, great. | 这就像,伟大的。 |
| 1211 | That was like a, there's an art of doing a great workout. | 这就像一个, 有一个艺术做一个伟大的锻炼。 |
| 1212 | And some days you just drink your energy drink | 有时候你只是喝你的能量饮料 |
| 1213 | and just go all out. | 并只是去所有出来。 |
| 1214 | But it was good. | 但这是很好的。 |
| 1215 | It was the same way, you know, | 这是同样的方式,你知道, |
| 1216 | I was in a difficult conversation the other day | 那天我谈话很困难 |
| 1217 | and I thought, I'm going to just resist | 我想,我只是要抵制 |
| 1218 | the urge to say anything. | 有话要说 |
| 1219 | I'm just going to like be the guy that just nods. | 我只是会喜欢 的家伙只是点头。 |
| 1220 | It was so hard, so hard, | 它是如此艰难,如此艰难, |
| 1221 | because I have a lot of thoughts and opinions, | 因为我有很多想法和意见 |
| 1222 | especially about what was being said. | 特别是刚才说的话 |
| 1223 | And I just got to the end. | 而我刚刚走到尽头。 |
| 1224 | I was like, okay. | 我当时想,好吧。 |
| 1225 | And then I said what I need to say. | 然后我说了我要说的话 |
| 1226 | And I'm so glad I did it, right? | 我很高兴我做到了,对不对? |
| 1227 | But it was work. | 但这是工作。 |
| 1228 | It was work. | 这是工作。 |
| 1229 | And it wasn't because I was being personally attacked. | 这不是因为我被攻击了 |
| 1230 | I just fighting that impulse. | 我只是在抵抗这种冲动 |
| 1231 | So I think learning to fight our impulsivity. | 所以我想学会对抗我们的冲动。 |
| 1232 | Listen, this is this stuff of great leadership | 听着,这是伟大的领导 |
| 1233 | that I don't, you know, I'm not super skilled, | 我没有,你知道, 我没有超技能, |
| 1234 | but I'm trying to build up, right? | 但我在努力积蓄,对吧? |
| 1235 | Because when you're the main guy, | 因为当你是主角时 |
| 1236 | this is one thing that comes with success. | 这是成功的一件事。 |
| 1237 | When you're the main guy, | 当你是主角时 |
| 1238 | most things fall in around you. | 大多数事情都发生在你身边 |
| 1239 | You know, like you're dialed, everything, you know, | 你知道,就像你拨号, 一切,你知道, |
| 1240 | it's about you being dialed in, you know, | 是关于你被拨入,你知道, |
| 1241 | and it can make us, | 它可以让我们, |
| 1242 | it can make people in positions of leadership, | 它能使人民处于领导地位, |
| 1243 | we can become impatient. | 我们可以变得不耐烦。 |
| 1244 | We're used to things happening on a certain pace, | 我们习惯了以一定的速度发生的事情, |
| 1245 | you know, it can make us impatient. | 你知道,它会让我们不耐烦。 |
| 1246 | So, you know, next time something's slow, | 所以,你知道,下一次的东西 缓慢, |
| 1247 | it's like, all right, I'm going to like, | 就像,好吧,我会喜欢, |
| 1248 | this is a good practice, but it's hard to stay there. | 这是一个很好的做法,但很难呆在那里。 |
| 1249 | You know, we're not, no one's striving for perfection. | 你知道,我们不是, 没有人在争取完美。 |
| 1250 | I think pick a short time scale | 我想选一个短暂的时间尺度 |
| 1251 | and try and get something better out of it, you know? | 试着从中找到更好的东西,你知道吗? |
| 1252 | And I have to be very, very clear about that. | 我必须非常,非常清楚这一点。 |
| 1253 | Have some mindless ways to reset. | 有一些无脑的方法来重置。 |
| 1254 | I have them, I like watching documentaries. | 我有,我喜欢看纪录片。 |
| 1255 | I love hanging out with my girlfriend and the dog. | 我喜欢和我女朋友和狗一起玩 |
| 1256 | And we just like, you know, we call it, you know, | 我们只是喜欢,你知道, 我们称之为,你知道, |
| 1257 | like we cave to love. | 就像我们洞穴去爱。 |
| 1258 | Like there's these moments where we're just like, | 就像有这样的时刻 我们只是喜欢, |
| 1259 | no more work, no more dishes, no more doing anything. | 没有工作, 没有更多的盘子, 没有做任何事情。 |
| 1260 | We're just going to like the, | 我们只是会喜欢, |
| 1261 | we're just going to relax the three of us. | 我们只是要放松我们三个。 |
| 1262 | We're just going to completely relax. | 我们只是要完全放松。 |
| 1263 | And after 10, 15 minutes, we move back into our time, | 10,15分钟后,我们回到我们的时间, |
| 1264 | like learning how to just completely, | 就像学习如何完全地, |
| 1265 | and I had to cover it. | 我不得不盖住它。 |
| 1266 | I'm like, oh, I'm exhausted. | 我觉得,哦,我累坏了。 |
| 1267 | And then you get back in business, let's go. | 然后你回来做生意,我们走吧。 |
| 1268 | And it's a very, that's one of the most powerful things, | 这是一个非常, 这是最强大的事物之一, |
| 1269 | I think, to just give yourself permission to just | 我想,只是让你自己允许 |
| 1270 | in a healthy way, be a child every once in a while, | 以健康的方式 偶尔做个孩子 |
| 1271 | just kind of exhausted. | 只是有点累 |
| 1272 | And then back in it, let's go posture up | 然后回到它, 让我们去姿态起来 |
| 1273 | and like, let's get serious again, you know? | 然后,让我们再次认真,你知道吗? |
| 1274 | Because otherwise, if you're grinding the gears | 否则,如果你磨齿轮 |
| 1275 | all the time, that's just no fun. | 总是这样,这不好玩 |
| 1276 | Yeah, also there's a, once you, | 是啊,还有,一旦你, |
| 1277 | and you're there now, right? | 而你现在在那里,对不对? |
| 1278 | But people can anticipate this soon if they're not, | 但人们可以预料到,如果不是, |
| 1279 | and they're staying in this trajectory. | 他们一直待在轨道上 |
| 1280 | The real top layer, and I know this from observing people | 真正的顶层,我知道这一点 从观察人 |
| 1281 | in other fields, tech and medicine and the arts, | 技术、医学和艺术, |
| 1282 | and then in podcasting too, and finances, | 然后播客和资金, |
| 1283 | that the top, top layer is the ultra-discipline, | 顶层,顶层是超纪律的, |
| 1284 | super-focused, but an element of playfulness, | 超专注,但玩乐的元素, |
| 1285 | because they're just so secure. | 因为他们太安全了 |
| 1286 | They can now just like have that fun, | 他们现在可以像有乐趣, |
| 1287 | and they're not trying, they just, because they won. | 他们没有尝试, 他们只是,因为他们赢了。 |
| 1288 | They won the game. | 他们赢了比赛。 |
| 1289 | And so now they can just have fun, | 所以现在他们可以玩了 |
| 1290 | and all this incredible stuff comes out of that. | 所有不可思议的东西都从里面出来 |
| 1291 | And so that's the thing that like, you know, | 所以这就是喜欢,你知道, |
| 1292 | that we should all aspire to. | 我们都应该向往。 |
| 1293 | That's the peace, that's the peace, | 这就是和平,这就是和平 |
| 1294 | the joy that comes with it. | 随它而来的欢乐 |
| 1295 | But don't expect that in the first couple of years. | 但不要期待 在头几年。 |
| 1296 | No way, no chance. | 不可能,没有机会。 |
| 1297 | Wins, you're going after wins, | 赢,你要赢 |
| 1298 | and you're building your confidence. | 你正在建立你的信心。 |
| 1299 | That's how you do it. | 师便打. |
| 1300 | But that's there for you. | 但这是给你的。 |
| 1301 | You know, you mentioned a couple of games right now, | 你知道,你提到一些游戏 现在, |
| 1302 | like what you do to turn on the heat, | 就像你为开热而做的一样, |
| 1303 | and do certain things in order to build resilience. | 并做一些事情 以建立复原力。 |
| 1304 | Like let's make it more something | 像让我们做更多的东西 |
| 1305 | that people can follow immediately. | 人们可以马上跟随。 |
| 1306 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}给我三场人们可以玩的心理游戏 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}我 | |
| 1307 | to build resilience. | 建立复原力。 |
| 1308 | All right, I woke up this morning. | 好吧,我早上醒来。 |
| 1309 | I did not want to get out of bed. | 我本来不想下床的 |
| 1310 | I was super tired and did not get enough sleep. | 我超累,睡不着 |
| 1311 | And I do, before I get out of bed, | 我这样做,在我起床之前, |
| 1312 | I do this every morning, I do 10 breath meditation. | 我每天早上都这样做, 我做十呼吸冥想。 |
| 1313 | If I can't concentrate, I tell myself, | 如果我不能集中精力,我告诉自己, |
| 1314 | if I can't concentrate for 10 breaths, | 如果我不能集中十口气, |
| 1315 | how in the world am I going to go about my day? | 我该怎么过日子? |
| 1316 | Sometimes I have to get to number six, you drift, | 有时我必须到第六, 你漂流, |
| 1317 | you have to set an alarm, | 你必须设置一个警报, |
| 1318 | because you can easily go back to sleep, | 因为你可以轻松回去睡觉, |
| 1319 | especially with long exhales. | 特别是长的呼气。 |
| 1320 | 10 breath meditation before you let yourself | 在你放过自己之前 默念十声 |
| 1321 | get out of bed in the morning, | 早上起床睡觉, |
| 1322 | especially on the mornings where you really have to get up | 特别是早上你必须起床的地方 |
| 1323 | and use the bathroom, even harder. | 用厕所,更难。 |
| 1324 | Okay, in your workouts, not in your warmups, | 好吧,在你的锻炼, 不是在你的温暖, |
| 1325 | but in your work sets, | 但是在你的作品集中, |
| 1326 | your goal is to make those as hard as possible, | 你的目标是尽可能使那些硬, |
| 1327 | not as easy as possible. | 没那么容易 |
| 1328 | So as focused as you can possibly be, | 所以,如果你可以专心, |
| 1329 | when it really is tough, | 当它真的很难, |
| 1330 | you're going to do everything you can to make it even harder. | 你会尽你所能 使它更难。 |
| 1331 | You're going to try and contract the muscle even harder | 你会更努力地收缩肌肉 |
| 1332 | using that weight. | 使用这个重量。 |
| 1333 | That's another one. | 这是另一个。 |
| 1334 | With respect to any challenging interaction, | 关于任何具有挑战性的互动, |
| 1335 | whether it's with the internet or with someone else, | 不管是上网还是别人 |
| 1336 | or it's like too many texts incoming, | 或者像太多的文本来, |
| 1337 | you're feeling overwhelmed, | 你感觉不堪重负, |
| 1338 | the whole business of it is to just, | 整个事情就是... |
| 1339 | it's this detached thing that is about taking your gaze | 是这种脱节的事物,是 关于你的目光 |
| 1340 | and getting it extended into the entire room | 把它伸进整个房间 |
| 1341 | or space that you're in. | 或你所在的空间。 |
| 1342 | Because we get very narrow focuses | 因为我们的焦点很窄 |
| 1343 | of real neuroscience to this. | 真正的神经科学 |
| 1344 | We get this tunnel vision and something feels overwhelming | 我们得到了这个隧道的视觉 和一些感觉压倒性 |
| 1345 | because it's almost like drinking from a fire hose. | 因为它几乎像喝 从消防水管。 |
| 1346 | Then you kind of like dial it out | 那你就喜欢拨出来 |
| 1347 | and that's where your autonomic nervous system adjusts | 这就是你自动神经系统调整的地方 |
| 1348 | and you're like, I can do this. | 你就像,我可以做到这一点。 |
| 1349 | And now you just start picking things off one by one. | 现在你开始一个接一个地挑东西。 |
| 1350 | This is actually a tool that Jocko Willink and I talked | 这其实是一个工具 乔科・威林克和我谈过 |
| 1351 | about him and from his military career | 关于他和他的军事生涯 |
| 1352 | that we arrived at independently. | 我们独立到达。 |
| 1353 | But I'll occasionally do it while podcasting | 但我偶尔会在播客时做 |
| 1354 | where I feel like we're really in the tunnel. | 我觉得我们真的在隧道里 |
| 1355 | We're there and I just sort of like dial out. | 我们在那里,我只是 有点像拨出。 |
| 1356 | And I just, in my mind, I think, | 我只是,在我的脑海里,我想, |
| 1357 | let's invite in some novelty here. | 让我们邀请一些新颖的。 |
| 1358 | I don't know what it is, but just kind of like, | 我不知道是什么,但只是有点像, |
| 1359 | let's make sure that we're not too far down some road, right? | 让我们确保 我们不会太远 在某条道路上,对不对? |
| 1360 | So that's a good one. | 所以,这是一个很好的。 |
| 1361 | But if you're feeling overwhelmed, this is very good. | 但是如果你感到不堪重负,这很好。 |
| 1362 | You just simply, you simply, you wouldn't even detect it. | 你只是,你只是, 你甚至不会发现它。 |
| 1363 | You just start viewing the ceiling and the floor | 你刚刚开始看天花板和地板 |
| 1364 | and the things that you see ourselves in this context. | 以及你从这里看到的东西 |
| 1365 | Kind of takes you out of it, gives you, | 那种让你离开,给你, |
| 1366 | it releases some of the stress in your mind | 它释放出一些压力 在你的脑海里 |
| 1367 | that allows you to come up with novel ways. | 让你能想出一些新颖的方法 |
| 1368 | New abilities come from that. | 新的能力来自此。 |
| 1369 | I have a friend, he's a coach | 我有个朋友,他是教练 |
| 1370 | for a professional basketball team. | 一个职业篮球队。 |
| 1371 | He's not the head coach, he's a performance coach. | 他不是主教练,而是一名表演教练. |
| 1372 | And oftentimes when guys are moving down court, | 经常有人搬下法庭 |
| 1373 | they're so focused that they don't see opportunities | 他们如此专注 以至于看不到机会 |
| 1374 | and they don't see defenders that can, | 他们看不到维权者能够 |
| 1375 | you know, thwart their efforts. | 你知道,阻止他们的努力。 |
| 1376 | And so what they need to do is dilate their gaze | 因此,他们需要做的是扩大他们的视线 |
| 1377 | and they start seeing things in new ways | 他们开始以新的方式看待事物 |
| 1378 | and you can see new opportunities. | 你可以看到新的机会。 |
| 1379 | So it's the same thing. | 故曰同义. |
| 1380 | The brain, you afford more resource, | 大脑,你支付更多的资源, |
| 1381 | more brain resources when you do that. | 当你这样做时, 更多的大脑资源。 |
| 1382 | And then the last one is, | 然后最后一个是, |
| 1383 | I think there's a very useful way to use memory | 我觉得有一个非常有用的方法 使用记忆 |
| 1384 | that normally people, their memory of the past | 平时人们的记忆 |
| 1385 | is about things that didn't work out. | 是关于没有成功的事 |
| 1386 | I think everyone should have some thing that worked out | 我想每个人都应该有 事情已经解决 |
| 1387 | and you return to that. | 你回到那个。 |
| 1388 | You survived the hard thing. | 你活了下来 |
| 1389 | You're still here, you're still breathing. | 你还在这里,你还在呼吸 |
| 1390 | Sometimes it's that basic or, you know, | 有时候,它是那么基本或,你知道的, |
| 1391 | your case or someone else's like, you built that. | 你的案子或者别人的一样, 你建造的。 |
| 1392 | You built that, which simply means | 你建造了它,那只是意味着 |
| 1393 | you can build another thing and you can build on this. | 你可以再造一个东西 并以此为基础 |
| 1394 | Like you have that in you. | 就像你身上有那样 |
| 1395 | It was you that did that. | 是你这么做的 |
| 1396 | And to really acknowledge your own agency in that, | 为了真正承认你的代理公司 |
| 1397 | you didn't do it alone, but that you did that. | 你不是一个人干的 而是你干的 |
| 1398 | You took it from nothing. | 你一无所获 |
| 1399 | Had you not decided and done the things, | 如果你们没有决定和做那些事情, |
| 1400 | had you not decided to and then done the things, | 假若你没有决定,而且做了那件事, |
| 1401 | it would not exist. | 它不会存在。 |
| 1402 | You need to internalize that | 你得把它内化 |
| 1403 | because you really recognize your own capacity | 因为你真的承认自己的能力 |
| 1404 | and you can bring that forward. | 并且你可以提出这一点。 |
| 1405 | But I admit that throughout the day, | 但我承认,一整天, |
| 1406 | there are many opportunities that I try to take | 有很多机会,我想尝试 |
| 1407 | of like doing the slightly harder thing. | 喜欢做有点难的事情。 |
| 1408 | Andy Stumpf也谈到了这个 | |
| 1409 | the slightly harder thing. | 有点难 |
| 1410 | Like you see that little piece of thing on the ground. | 就像你在地上看到那个小东西一样 |
| 1411 | Do you pick it up or do you go like, you do it. | 你捡起来还是去,你做。 |
| 1412 | You do it because it's hard. | 你这样做是因为很难。 |
| 1413 | I confess I'm not that good at that. | 我承认我不擅长这个 |
| 1414 | I hate folding and putting away my clothes. | 我讨厌折叠和脱衣服 |
| 1415 | I absolutely hate it. | 我绝对讨厌它。 |
| 1416 | I would pay any amount of money to have somebody else do it. | 我会花很多钱让别人做 |
| 1417 | But occasionally I just like throw, | 但偶尔我只是喜欢扔, |
| 1418 | and I don't know what it is. | 我不知道这是什么。 |
| 1419 | It's like my vice. | 这就像我的恶习。 |
| 1420 | Sounds so trivial, right? | 听起来如此微不足道,对不对? |
| 1421 | So I let myself sometimes leave some clothes out. | 所以我让自己有时 留下一些衣服出去。 |
| 1422 | Like I'm human. | 就像我是人类一样 |
| 1423 | I'm like in the playfulness of that. | 我很喜欢玩这个 |
| 1424 | And how hilarious it is that I, | 我是多么的好笑,我, |
| 1425 | for all the other things that I'm able to do that are hard, | 对于其他所有的事情,我可以做到这一点 很难, |
| 1426 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}不能只是把衬衫叠好放好 | |
| 1427 | Okay, you know, like, okay. | 好吧,你知道,喜欢,好吧。 |
| 1428 | Like, well, would it be better if I did it? | 喜欢,嗯,它会更好 如果我这样做? |
| 1429 | Yeah, but, and also like, so that again is that thing | 是啊,但是,同样, 所以再次是那个东西 |
| 1430 | of pick your masochism, | 选择你的受虐狂, |
| 1431 | but have, but be thoughtful about it. | 但是,但要仔细考虑 |
| 1432 | I do think that if someone were to watch my podcast | 我觉得如果有人看我的播客 |
| 1433 | or to watch your podcast and watch Goggins | 或观看播客和观看戈金斯 |
| 1434 | and all these people, it could feel overwhelming. | 和所有这些人, 它会感到压倒性。 |
| 1435 | Like, oh my goodness, | 喜欢,哦,我的天啊, |
| 1436 | is my life supposed to be all right angles? | 我的生活应该很好吗? |
| 1437 | No, no, no, no, no, no. | ○[标]僧问. |
| 1438 | We're human. | 我们是人类 |
| 1439 | Yeah, you know, I like to think that we're both human. | 是啊,你知道,我喜欢认为 我们都是人。 |
| 1440 | Yeah, yeah. | 对 对 |
| 1441 | I know I am, so. | 我知道,我是这样。 |
| 1442 | I am way more human. | 我更像人类 |
| 1443 | Yeah, well, but you also are 29 years old. | 是啊 但你也29岁了 |
| 1444 | I'm 50 years old. | 年五十岁. |
| 1445 | So you have more plasticity available. | 所以你有更多的可塑性。 |
| 1446 | And I think the mental trick | 我觉得精神上的诡计 |
| 1447 | that I think is the most important one | 我认为是最重要的一个 |
| 1448 | is you have to see your life as an adventure. | 你得把人生看成冒险 |
| 1449 | You get to write your own story. | 你可以自己写故事 |
| 1450 | I like, I really, I believe that somebody's listening | 我喜欢,我真的, 我相信有人在听 |
| 1451 | to this and that for them, it's not about you or me. | 对他们来说,这与你和我无关 |
| 1452 | It's like, it's about them and they're out there | 就像,这是关于他们 他们在那里 |
| 1453 | and they're thinking like, could I do it? | 他们想,我可以做到这一点吗? |
| 1454 | I don't know if I could do it. | 我不知道我能不能做到这一点。 |
| 1455 | I will tell you right now, I was that guy. | 我现在就告诉你,我就是那个人 |
| 1456 | I was in my lab listening to Tim Ferrars podcasts | 我在实验室里听提姆费拉斯播客 |
| 1457 | and other podcasts, like I'm thinking like reading books, | 还有其他播客,就像我在想看书一样 |
| 1458 | hearing about people long before there were podcasts. | 早在播客出现之前就听说有人 |
| 1459 | And like, I was like, I wanted to be like these people | 喜欢,我很喜欢,我想 像这些人 |
| 1460 | who built things and strived and did creative things | 他们创造事物,奋斗,创造事物 |
| 1461 | and did things that were outside the box. | 并做了一些在盒子外面的事情。 |
| 1462 | And I actually had this dorky little list of names, | 其实我有一个愚蠢的小名单 名字, |
| 1463 | it's so silly, of some artists, some musicians, | 这太傻了,一些艺术家,一些音乐家, |
| 1464 | people that some I've met, but many of whom I'll never meet | 我见过的人,但很多我永远不会见过的人 |
| 1465 | because they've passed, some scientists and some of the, | 因为他们已经过去了 一些科学家和一些... |
| 1466 | people that I wanted to be like in certain ways. | 我想在某些方面成为这样的人 |
| 1467 | So dorky, right? | 所以呆子,对不对? |
| 1468 | But I still have that list and I was like, | 但我还有那张名单 我当时想 |
| 1469 | and now I've actually met a few of the people | 现在,我遇见了一些人 |
| 1470 | and some of them were really cool, | 其中一些人真的很酷, |
| 1471 | no disappointments there. | 在那里没有失望。 |
| 1472 | And I'm like, oh, that's wild. | 我很喜欢,哦,这是野性的。 |
| 1473 | Like it, I, for lack of a better word, I manifested that, | 喜欢它,我,由于缺乏 一个更好的词,我表现了, |
| 1474 | but I didn't manifest it by just sitting in a chair | 但我没有通过坐在椅子上来表现 |
| 1475 | and thinking about it, I went for it. | 考虑一下,我就想了 |
| 1476 | But I was the person going like, I don't know, | 但我是那种人, 我不知道, |
| 1477 | I'm like a professor in a lab, | 我就像实验室的教授 |
| 1478 | but I have these other interests and, you know, | 但我有这些其他的兴趣,你知道, |
| 1479 | but I can't seem to stop seeking out this knowledge | 但我似乎无法停止寻找这种知识 |
| 1480 | and sharing it with people. | 并分享给人们。 |
| 1481 | And I had no concept of having a podcast. | 我对播客没有任何想法。 |
| 1482 | So if you're that person out there, like go for it. | 所以,如果你是那个人 在那里,喜欢去。 |
| 1483 | Because I was that person and you were that person. | 因为我就是那个人 而你就是那个人 |
| 1484 | Absolutely that person. | 绝对是那个人 |
| 1485 | And don't let the amount of information out there | 不要让信息的数量在那里 |
| 1486 | overwhelm you, just pick your stuff and go. | 别管你,随便挑东西走吧 |
| 1487 | And don't try and do it all, just pick. | 不要试图做这一切,只是选择。 |
| 1488 | And you, I guarantee, I look forward to the day | 而你,我保证,我期待着一天 |
| 1489 | that someone or several people are sitting down saying, | 有人或数人坐着说: |
| 1490 | we heard this conversation and we were like, okay, | 我们听到这个谈话,我们就像,好吧, |
| 1491 | I can be part, I can be colleagues with these guys | 我可以参与,我可以跟这些人做同事 |
| 1492 | or I can pass them, who knows? | 或者我可以通过他们, 谁知道呢? |
| 1493 | Maybe they're gonna come and try and take what we've got, | 也许他们会来 并尝试拿走我们所拥有的, |
| 1494 | but you're gonna have to work pretty hard if you're gonna, | 但你得努力工作 如果你要去, |
| 1495 | but I know you can do it or try. | 但我知道你能做到这一点或尝试。 |
| 1496 | And they're gonna, they're gonna have their thing, | 他们会,他们会有他们的东西, |
| 1497 | hopefully something different, hopefully. | 希望有不同的东西,希望。 |
| 1498 | Cause I do think that the best work is non-competitive. | 因为我认为最好的工作是非竞争性的 |
| 1499 | This is actually an important point. | 这实际上是一个重要问题。 |
| 1500 | My friend Rick Rubin points this out about creative arts. | 我的朋友里克·鲁宾(Rick Rubin)指出了创作艺术的问题. |
| 1501 | I was watching this documentary recently | 我最近看了这部纪录片 |
| 1502 | about rock climbing and I'm not a rock climber, | 关于攀岩和我不是攀岩者, |
| 1503 | but competition can motivate you from time to time, | 但竞争可以激励你 不时, |
| 1504 | but it's not gonna bring about your most creative work. | 但它不会带来 你最有创意的工作。 |
| 1505 | You want an individual, unique, unique vision of something. | 你想要一个个人, 独特的,独特的视觉的东西。 |
| 1506 | And it can look a lot like a lot of other things. | 而且它可以看起来像很多其他的东西。 |
| 1507 | It might even look the same to other people, | 别人可能也一样 |
| 1508 | but that's your vision. | 但这就是你的愿景 |
| 1509 | And if you start comparing it to other people, | 如果你开始和别人比较 |
| 1510 | sure you can borrow and trade things | 肯定能借东西 |
| 1511 | that you think are cool, discard things | 你认为很酷, 丢弃的东西 |
| 1512 | you don't think are cool, | 你不觉得很酷, |
| 1513 | but like build your life story. | 但就像建立你的生活故事。 |
| 1514 | I'm a neuroscientist turned podcaster, | 我是一个神经科学家 转过身来, |
| 1515 | still neuroscience professor, whatever, whatever. | 还是神经科学教授,什么的,什么的。 |
| 1516 | You have your story. | 你有你的故事。 |
| 1517 | Everyone has a unique story and that's what the world wants. | 每个人都有一个独特的故事 那就是世界想要的 |
| 1518 | They don't want another one of you or another one of me | 他们不想要另一个你或另一个我 |
| 1519 | or another, you know, Steven Bartlett or Tim Ferriss | 或者另一个,你知道,史蒂文・巴特利特或蒂姆・费里斯 |
| 1520 | or Rogan or Lex Reumann, like those guys are those guys | 或者罗根或者莱克斯・鲁曼 就像那些家伙一样 |
| 1521 | and we're us and build out the new thing. | 而我们就是我们 并且建造出新的东西。 |
| 1522 | It can look a lot like it can still be a podcast | 看起来像还是播客 |
| 1523 | or whatever, but build your own beautiful painting | 或什么的,但建造 你自己的美丽画 |
| 1524 | of your vision. | 你的愿景。 |
| 1525 | That would make me happier than anything. | 那会让我比什么都高兴 |
| 1526 | If someday somebody wrote and was like, I heard that. | 如果有一天有人写和喜欢, 我听到了。 |
| 1527 | I went for it. | 我答应了 |
| 1528 | And every time someone says, well, yeah, but it's hard, | 每次有人说,嗯,是的,但很难, |
| 1529 | but there's a lot of podcasts, like that should be your | 但有很多播客, 像这样的应该是你的 |
| 1530 | answer for it and just keep going. | 继续说下去 |
| 1531 | I mean, you're like this, you get excited. | 我的意思是,你像这样, 你兴奋。 |
| 1532 | You get excited by looking at other people. | 看着别人会很兴奋 |
| 1533 | You also get excited by challenges | 你也对挑战感到兴奋 |
| 1534 | as much as I can hear, right? | 我听得到,对吧? |
| 1535 | There are so many people, they're addicted to comfort. | 有这么多人,他们沉迷于安慰. |
| 1536 | And then there are people like you who are addicted | 还有像你这样的瘾君子 |
| 1537 | to challenge why some people are addicted to comfort | 挑战为什么有些人沉迷于安慰 |
| 1538 | and why some people are addicted to challenge. | 以及为什么有些人对挑战上瘾。 |
| 1539 | Yeah, you know, two answers. | 是啊,你知道,两个答案。 |
| 1540 | One is very kind of rigid and I don't know which one is true. | 一个很僵硬 我不知道哪个是真的 |
| 1541 | One is maybe people have just different mental | 一个是,也许人们有不同的精神 |
| 1542 | and physical pain thresholds. | 还有身体疼痛的极限 |
| 1543 | I know when I, I know when I, I know when I, I know when I, | 我知道当我,我知道当我,我知道当我,我知道当我, |
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