【英语播客】"我不算去过那些国家，我只是擦到了表面"
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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
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| 0:00 | Hello, this is podcast number two and last time I talked a lot about language learning | 你好,我是播客二号 上次我经常谈论语言学习 |
| 0:06 | And one thing that came up a bit was about | 说到一件事 |
| 0:09 | Experiencing different cultures about immersing yourself in new places | 经历不同的文化 沉浸在新的地方 |
| 0:14 | So I thought a good follow-on from this would be to talk a bit more about travel in general | 所以我想,一个很好的后继 这将是谈 更多关于旅行的一般 |
| 0:19 | So I thought I would talk a little bit about my own experiences where I have traveled to | 所以我想谈谈我自己的经历 我曾经旅行过 |
| 0:25 | So this year this last year has been a really big travel year for me | 所以今年去年对我来说是一个大旅行年 |
| 0:30 | I had previously been abroad. | 我之前去过国外 |
| 0:32 | I had been to | 我去过 |
| 0:33 | Europe quite a few times. | 欧洲好几次了 |
| 0:34 | I'm from Europe | 我来自欧洲 |
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| 1 | Hello, this is podcast number two and last time I talked a lot about language learning | 你好,我是播客二号 上次我经常谈论语言学习 |
| 2 | And one thing that came up a bit was about | 说到一件事 |
| 3 | Experiencing different cultures about immersing yourself in new places | 经历不同的文化 沉浸在新的地方 |
| 4 | So I thought a good follow-on from this would be to talk a bit more about travel in general | 所以我想,一个很好的后继 这将是谈 更多关于旅行的一般 |
| 5 | So I thought I would talk a little bit about my own experiences where I have traveled to | 所以我想谈谈我自己的经历 我曾经旅行过 |
| 6 | So this year this last year has been a really big travel year for me | 所以今年去年对我来说是一个大旅行年 |
| 7 | I had previously been abroad. | 我之前去过国外 |
| 8 | I had been to | 我去过 |
| 9 | Europe quite a few times. | 欧洲好几次了 |
| 10 | I'm from Europe | 我来自欧洲 |
| 11 | So it's not such a difficult | 所以不是这么难 |
| 12 | Journey to make to hop over to mainland Europe. | 去欧洲大陆的旅程 |
| 13 | And while I had some really amazing experiences here | 当我在这里有一些非常惊人的经历 |
| 14 | I think that my time in Asia has | 我认为我在亚洲的时光 |
| 15 | Helped me to grow enormously as a person | 帮助我长大成人 |
| 16 | So I thought it would be a good idea to talk a little bit more in detail about this | 所以我觉得说得更详细一点会是个好主意 |
| 17 | so I | 所以说 |
| 18 | Currently live and work in Vietnam. | 目前生活和工作在越南. |
| 19 | I came to Vietnam about a year ago now. | 我一年前来过越南 |
| 20 | So it's been a really I | 所以,这是一个真正的我 |
| 21 | Feel like a completely different person to when I first arrived. | 我第一次来的时候感觉完全不同 |
| 22 | It's been a transformative year for me. | 对我来说,这已经是一个变革性的一年。 |
| 23 | You could say | 你可以说 |
| 24 | Before that I traveled a little bit. | 在此之前,我旅行了一点点。 |
| 25 | So I firstly went to Nepal and | 所以我先去了尼泊尔 |
| 26 | Nepal was a really good experience for me because I had never been to anywhere like this before | 尼泊尔对我来说是一个非常好的经历 因为我从来没有去过这样的地方 |
| 27 | There's nowhere in Europe that you can compare it to. | 在欧洲,没有任何地方你可以把它比作。 |
| 28 | I really loved the people | 我真的很喜欢人民 |
| 29 | I really loved the food. | 我真的很喜欢吃的。 |
| 30 | I actually only went to Kathmandu, which is my biggest regret about this trip because | 其实我只去了加德满都, 这是我对这次旅行最大的遗憾,因为 |
| 31 | All of the people I met were actually doing a hike. | 我遇到的所有人 其实都是徒步旅行 |
| 32 | They were going on a trek and | 他们正在旅行, |
| 33 | Like Everest base camp, for example, which I had not even crossed my mind to do | 比如说珠穆朗玛峰大本营 我甚至没有想过去 |
| 34 | I'm not honestly sure why I chose to go to Kathmandu. | 我不知道为什么我选择去加德满都 |
| 35 | I just felt drawn that sometimes | 我只是觉得有时画 |
| 36 | I think you're just drawn to a place because I had no real motive. | 我想你只是被吸引到一个地方 因为我没有真正的动机。 |
| 37 | I don't know anyone there. | 我在那里不认识任何人。 |
| 38 | I | 一、导 言 |
| 39 | Didn't know anything about the culture or about the country | 对文化或国家一无所知 |
| 40 | So I can't explain what it is exactly that made me want to go there | 所以我无法解释是什么让我想去那儿 |
| 41 | But in any case I went to Kathmandu. | 但无论如何,我去了加德满都。 |
| 42 | I explored the city. | 我探索了这座城市。 |
| 43 | I met so many really amazing people | 我遇见了这么多非常神奇的人 |
| 44 | International friends, but also some Nepali friends, which was really nice because | 也有一些尼泊尔朋友, |
| 45 | They could show me around and I do think that when you see a city or a country with a | 他们可以带我到处转转 我确实认为当你看到一个城市或一个国家 |
| 46 | Native or local you have a very different experience. | 本地人或本地人 经历完全不同 |
| 47 | You have a more authentic experience | 你有更真实的经验 |
| 48 | So that was really it was really special and I would love to go back to Nepal for my first stop on my trip | 所以,这是真的 真的很特别,我愿意回到尼泊尔 在我旅行的第一站 |
| 49 | It was a little bit intense sometimes because as I say I had no | 有时候有点紧张 因为我说没有 |
| 50 | comparison in Europe | 欧洲的比较 |
| 51 | for this trip | 这次旅行 |
| 52 | Or for this city, so it was a little bit daunting | 或者是这个城市,所以有点可怕 |
| 53 | But obviously I'm happy that I did it and then I went to Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia | 但显然我很高兴我做到了,然后我去了马来西亚吉隆坡 |
| 54 | This was very different. | 这是非常不同的。 |
| 55 | This was kind of more | 这更像是 |
| 56 | Familiar in a sense, although I can't compare it to a city in Europe. | 从某种意义上来说,我更熟悉, 虽然我不能把它比作一个欧洲的城市。 |
| 57 | It still felt a bit more | 感觉还是比较好 |
| 58 | I'm not sure. | 我不太确定 说不定 |
| 59 | I think it's that there's so many international places so many international chains and shops in in | 我认为,有这么多的国际场所 这么多的国际连锁店和商店 |
| 60 | Kuala Lumpur. | 吉隆坡. |
| 61 | There's a lot of malls and one one hot take of mine is that because of globalization | 有很多商场,我的一个热点点是 因为全球化 |
| 62 | This has been really a really great phenomenon in terms of | 这确实是一个非常伟大的现象 |
| 63 | International travel is now possible in terms of people from all around the world can connect thanks to globalization | 现在可以进行国际旅行,因为由于全球化,来自世界各地的人可以建立联系。 |
| 64 | However, the negative side is that in my opinion | 然而,负面的一面是,我认为 |
| 65 | Some places in some cities are starting to become very very similar to the point where you can't differentiate them | 有些城市的一些地方开始变得非常相似 以至于无法区分它们 |
| 66 | Completely that's not to say that Kuala Lumpur is a | 完全不是说吉隆坡是一个 |
| 67 | Standard typical city. | 标准典型城市. |
| 68 | It definitely has its own character. | 它肯定有自己的特点。 |
| 69 | What I mean to say is that | 我想说的是 |
| 70 | Malls for me are the same in every country | 每个国家的商场都一样 |
| 71 | I don't know if this is controversial a mall is just a place with lots of different shops | 我不知道这有否争议 商场只是有很多不同商店的地方 |
| 72 | Maybe it's maybe it has air-conditioner maybe has some unique restaurants for sure | 也许它有空调机 肯定有独特的餐厅 |
| 73 | But ultimately I don't think that you can say you've seen a country if you've just been to the malls in that country | 但归根结底,我认为你不能说 你见过一个国家 如果你刚刚去过那个国家的商场 |
| 74 | Does that make sense? | 这有道理吗? |
| 75 | So yeah, one thing I noticed about Kuala Lumpur was that there was a lot of shopping there was a lot of | 我注意到吉隆坡的一件事 就是有很多购物 |
| 76 | Commercial commercialized areas a lot of malls and it was a relief of course because it's such a hot country that sometimes you do | 商业商业化区很多商场 当然是宽慰 因为这里很热 有时你也会这样 |
| 77 | Just want some air conditioner and the food was really good. | 只是想要一些空调 和食物真的很好。 |
| 78 | I have to admit in the malls. | 我得在商场承认 |
| 79 | So that was | 所以这是 |
| 80 | It's something I noticed let's say | 我注意到一些事情 可以说 |
| 81 | Otherwise I I loved walking around the city the city felt so safe so clean | 不然我就喜欢在城市里走走 城市如此安全 |
| 82 | And like I say, I did have its own character. | 就像我说的,我确实有自己的性格 |
| 83 | They were definitely areas that felt very dissimilar from from for example | 它们绝对是 感觉非常不一样的领域 比如说 |
| 84 | the malls I | 商场我 |
| 85 | I really loved the I can't remember what they're called the name of the two towers they have that but the park area around here | 我真的很喜欢那些我不记得了 他们叫什么名字的两座塔 但这里的公园区 |
| 86 | I think this was my highlight | 我觉得这是我的亮点 |
| 87 | Because it was so peaceful | 因为它是如此平静 |
| 88 | The garden was so beautiful. | 花园真美 |
| 89 | It was lovely to just walk around in | 随便走走真好 |
| 90 | So I would like to go back to Malaysia | 所以我想回马来西亚 |
| 91 | Because I only went to Kuala Lumpur and some friends told me that they went to Penang and Penang was | 因为我只去了吉隆坡 有些朋友告诉我 他们去了槟城 |
| 92 | Beautiful, so I would like to go back in the future | 漂亮,所以我想回到未来 |
| 93 | but I after this I went to the Philippines and | 但我之后去了菲律宾 |
| 94 | specifically Palawan and | 特别是帕拉万和 |
| 95 | Here I did a bit more traveling. | 在这里,我做了一些更多的旅行。 |
| 96 | I didn't just go to the capital city. | 我不只是去了首都 |
| 97 | I | 一、导 言 |
| 98 | Went to a few places and overall I really liked it | 去过几个地方 总的来说我很喜欢 |
| 99 | It was kind of nice having been to two big cities to go to a much smaller island. | 去过两个大城市 去一个更小的岛 感觉真好 |
| 100 | Yeah, there's a lot of people | 对,很多人 |
| 101 | Yes, there's a lot of tourists, but it is a different | 对,有很多游客,但不一样 |
| 102 | atmosphere a different vibe | 气氛不同 |
| 103 | So it was very relaxing. | 所以很轻松 |
| 104 | I was there for two weeks. | 我在那里待了两周 |
| 105 | So I had loads of time to go swimming | 所以我有很多时间去游泳 |
| 106 | I went on a boat tour one day and I have to say the Philippines has the best beaches in the world | 有一天我去游船 我得说菲律宾有世界上最好的海滩 |
| 107 | That I've seen that I've seen because the sunsets are amazing. | 我见过,因为夕阳是惊人的。 |
| 108 | There's nothing to compare it to you | 没有什么可以跟你比较的 |
| 109 | They go every color in the rainbow pink to violet and and then bright red sometimes honestly really really spectacular | 他们把彩虹粉红色的颜色都涂到紫罗兰 然后亮红色 有时真的真的很壮观 |
| 110 | I think it was probably my highlight | 我觉得这可能是我的亮点 |
| 111 | But I also really loved the food there. | 但我也很喜欢那里的食物。 |
| 112 | I did have | 我确实有 |
| 113 | authentic food | 真实食物 |
| 114 | Philippian food a few times | 飞利浦吃过几次饭 |
| 115 | For example adobo pork adobo was maybe my favorite thing that I tried there, but there was also a lot of | 例如,Adobo猪肉Adobo 也许是我最喜欢的东西,我在那里尝试, 但也有很多 |
| 116 | International influence which I was a bit surprised by considering. | 我对国际影响有点惊讶, |
| 117 | It's an island and not a capital city, but it was nice | 是个小岛,不是都城,但还不错 |
| 118 | There were quite a few experts in | 有很多专家 |
| 119 | Palawan and quite a lot of tourists as I say, so it was nice to be surrounded by other international people | 正如我所说,帕拉万和很多游客 被其他国际人士包围真好 |
| 120 | But unfortunately, and I think this is a trend is that because there's so many tourists there will be less local people | 但不幸的是 我认为这是一个趋势 因为有这么多的游客 当地人会更少 |
| 121 | in the in the center central parts of the areas that you're staying in which I think is a shame because | 在中部的你所呆的地方 我认为这很可惜 |
| 122 | every kind of | 各种各样的 |
| 123 | Town or city could start to look the same | 城镇或城市可能看起来都一样 |
| 124 | Because of globalization | 由于全球化 |
| 125 | So I think it's really important to preserve the local character as well and also just in terms of how life is for the locals | 所以,我认为这真的很重要 保存当地的性格 以及仅仅从生活如何 当地人 |
| 126 | obviously one | 显然一个 |
| 127 | Negative effect of tourism is that popularity can make housing prices surge this happens in Europe all the time | 旅游业的负面效果是,受欢迎程度会让房价高涨,这在欧洲时常发生。 |
| 128 | And I think it's happening now in Asia | 我觉得现在发生在亚洲 |
| 129 | There were not many people not many locals that could live in the center of town anymore because of the increase in tourism | 由于旅游业的增长,现在没有多少人可以住在市中心。 |
| 130 | So I think that's one downside | 所以,我认为这是一个缺点 |
| 131 | whether the government has to make a | 政府是否必须做出 |
| 132 | Change about that or whether it should be the responsibility of local landlords | 改变这件事 还是应该由当地房东负责 |
| 133 | I'm not sure but it's definitely something that I noticed which is a shame because | 我不知道,但绝对是 我注意到的东西 这是一个耻辱,因为 |
| 134 | These places are so beautiful and the natural beauty is incredible | 这些地方太美了 自然的美丽是不可思议的 |
| 135 | so I do think it needs to be preserved if it can be done alongside the | 因此,我认为它需要保存 如果可以做到这一点,与 |
| 136 | Tourism because of course tourism can be beneficial for the economy as well | 旅游业当然也有利于经济 |
| 137 | Then that would be ideal, but it was the most amazing place that I went to in terms of natural beauty definitely | 那会是理想的, 但这是最惊人的地方,我去了 在自然美绝对 |
| 138 | It was really something I would like to go back | 我真的很想回到过去 |
| 139 | Again, I did more exploring. | 我又一次进行了更多的探索。 |
| 140 | I went to a few places in on Palawan | 我去了巴拉旺的几个地方 |
| 141 | but | 不过 |
| 142 | The Philippines are so many islands | 菲律宾有这么多岛屿 |
| 143 | That to have even been to one island | 甚至去过一个小岛 |
| 144 | Doesn't make me feel like I can say I've been to the Philippines because it's huge | 这并不让我觉得我能说我去过菲律宾 因为它很大 |
| 145 | This is something I noticed of traveling as well is that I don't really feel like I've been to these countries | 这也是我所注意到的 旅行是,我并不觉得 我去过这些国家。 |
| 146 | I feel like I've scratched the surface | 感觉好像划伤了表面 |
| 147 | In terms of what the culture has to offer in terms of what the people have to offer | 文化可以提供什么 人民可以提供什么 |
| 148 | there's so much to do and so much to see and | 还有很多事情要做 还有很多事情要做 |
| 149 | With traveling it's not really the same as living somebody somewhere in the sense that you can't immerse yourself | 旅行跟生活上的人不一样 你无法沉浸在其中 |
| 150 | You're just seeing the baseline. | 你只是看到基线。 |
| 151 | You're just seeing the stuff that has been designed for tourists | 你只是看到那些为游客设计的东西 |
| 152 | So that's the big thing that I've noticed has been different from my experience with Vietnam | 所以,这就是我注意到的大事情 已经不同我的经验 在越南 |
| 153 | Because I've lived in Vietnam for a year, which again is not a massive amount of time | 因为我在越南住了一年,这又不是很多时间 |
| 154 | But is definitely longer than two weeks. | 但绝对超过两周。 |
| 155 | So I feel like I have a better understanding of the culture of | 所以我觉得自己更了解 |
| 156 | customs of food of | 食品习惯 |
| 157 | The way of life in Vietnam that I do have say Nepal or Malaysia | 在越南的生活方式,我确实说过尼泊尔或马来西亚 |
| 158 | Because there as I say I really didn't have the chance to immerse myself like I have with Vietnam | 因为正如我所说,我真的没有机会像越南那样沉浸在水中 |
| 159 | Vietnam for me | 越南给我的 |
| 160 | Honestly feels like home now at the beginning. | 老实说 一开始感觉就像家一样 |
| 161 | It was so daunting and for a long time | 它是如此的艰巨和长久 |
| 162 | I felt very lonely because it can be difficult to | 我感到非常孤独 因为很难 |
| 163 | to make friends after you've uprooted your whole life move to the other side of the world and | 在你离乡背井后结交朋友 将你的一生转移到世界的另一边 |
| 164 | Now you're trying to find a job a house so your social circle is kind of the last thing you think about | 现在你想找份工作 找个房子 这样你的社交圈就成了你最后想的 |
| 165 | Instead you're prioritizing rebuilding your life. | 相反,你优先考虑重建你的生活。 |
| 166 | So that was a | 所以这是个 |
| 167 | Probably the biggest challenge that I faced | 可能是我面临的最大挑战 |
| 168 | But in terms of the city, I live in Ho Chi Minh in the south | 但从城市来看,我住在南方的胡志明 |
| 169 | the city was daunting as well to be honest because the the traffic can be quite | 老实说,这座城市也十分艰难 因为交通非常繁忙 |
| 170 | Busy it can be quite congested it can be a little bit chaotic | 忙着可能很拥挤 可能有点混乱 |
| 171 | But I think that there's something really special and something really unique about Vietnam | 但我觉得越南有特别的和独特的 |
| 172 | that I haven't found elsewhere | 我还没有找到其他地方 |
| 173 | Especially I think I feel at home just because of how nice everybody is everybody makes you feel | 特别是我觉得我在家的感觉 只是因为每个人都那么好 |
| 174 | Welcome. | 欢迎 |
| 175 | Everybody is just kind | 每个人都是善良的 |
| 176 | It's | 这是 |
| 177 | It's nice. | 不错 |
| 178 | It makes you feel safe. | 让你觉得安全 |
| 179 | I suppose | 应该是吧 |
| 180 | I love the food. | 我喜欢食物。 |
| 181 | I think this is another reason why I've started to feel at home | 我觉得这是另一个原因 我开始感觉在家里 |
| 182 | Is that I actually enjoy the food so much. | 我其实很喜欢吃这些东西 |
| 183 | I don't eat Western food very often. | 我不经常吃西洋菜 |
| 184 | Sometimes, of course | 有时,当然 |
| 185 | I'll crave it, but most of the time I'll just eat Vietnamese food | 我很想吃,但大部分时间我只吃越南菜 |
| 186 | which is so tasty and it is heartwarming in a way that food from my home country is heartwarming for me and | 味道好极了 心跳也好极了 我家乡的食物也好极了 |
| 187 | Also, I've done a bit of traveling in Vietnam, so I've been to | 临Τи筁越瓣 ┮и |
| 188 | Da Nang, Muay Thai, Phu Quoc, Da Lat. | 大南,木艾泰,蒲国,大拉特. |
| 189 | So I've been | 所以我已经 |
| 190 | To a few places. | 至几处. |
| 191 | I've not made my way north yet. | 我还没往北走呢 |
| 192 | I would really love to go to Hanoi at some point | 我真的很想去河内某处 |
| 193 | So it's it's difficult to describe it's difficult to put down something that you feel so intensely in your heart | 所以很难形容 很难放下你内心深处 |
| 194 | into words into | 将文字输入 |
| 195 | Something concrete | 具体的东西 |
| 196 | Maybe that sounds a bit poetic, but that's how it feels. | 也许这听起来有点诗意 但感觉就是这样 |
| 197 | I really feel at home now | 我现在感觉很自在 |
| 198 | In fact, I recently went to Thailand for one month and by the end as much as I love Thailand as much as that was | 事实上,我最近去了泰国一个月, 到最后,我爱泰国就像爱泰国一样 |
| 199 | Wonderful by the end. | 最终妙绝. |
| 200 | I missed Vietnam. | 我错过了越南。 |
| 201 | I very much saw Vietnam as home | 我非常喜欢越南的家 |
| 202 | So this whole year has been really big for me challenging, of course in terms of rebuilding friendships | 因此,这整年对我来说是巨大的, 挑战,当然在重建友谊方面 |
| 203 | challenging in terms of getting used to | 挑战性在习惯 |
| 204 | Things that are different from my home country such as the traffic | 和家乡不一样的东西 比如交通 |
| 205 | But ultimately so rewarding and I think as a direct result of these challenges | 但归根结底,我认为这是挑战的直接结果 |
| 206 | I have grown so much and I feel so much more confident in myself of what I can handle | 我长大了这么多,我更有信心 对自己能处理的事情 |
| 207 | I do think that overall living abroad is such an amazing way to grow as a person to push yourself | 我确实认为,总体生活在国外 是一个惊人的成长方式 像一个人推自己 |
| 208 | Further than you thought you could go and to realize things about yourself that you would not have realized | 比你想象的还要远,你可以去 并意识到一些关于你自己的事情,你不会意识到 |
| 209 | Had you stayed in your old life and I know that it's not the same for everyone | 如果你留在你的旧生活 我知道这对每个人都不一样 |
| 210 | Some people are homebodies and some people would like to live and work in the place that their parents lived and worked and that's absolutely fine | 有些人是家庭体 有些人想在父母生活和工作的地方生活和工作 这绝对是好的 |
| 211 | If you if you feel at home, you feel at home and there's nothing wrong with that | 如果你觉得在家,你觉得在家里,那没什么错 |
| 212 | However, I do think there is so much to be said for trying to challenge yourself to live somewhere else | 但是,我觉得有很多事情要说 因为试图挑战自己 去别的地方生活 |
| 213 | I think it can be rewarding | 我觉得这可以有回报 |
| 214 | Even if you move abroad and you realize after a month you can't do it. | 即使你搬到国外 一个月后意识到你做不到 |
| 215 | It's too much. | 太过. |
| 216 | It's too different | 太不一样了 |
| 217 | Then that's fine, but at least you tried and you'll have still learned something from trying now | 那没关系,但至少你试过了,现在你还是会学到一些东西 |
| 218 | You know what you don't like now | 你知道你现在不喜欢什么 |
| 219 | You know what you want to have out of life now | 你知道你现在想要的是什么 |
| 220 | You know what makes you comfortable and what makes a place feel like home or not feel like home | 你知道是什么让你觉得舒服 是什么让你觉得自己像家一样 |
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| 222 | advice to anyone or my advice to my younger self when I was 18 years old is definitely to take risks to | 给任何人的忠告 或是我18岁时给我年轻一点的忠告 绝对是要冒险 |
| 223 | Move abroad if you ever have the opportunity | 有机会就出国 |
| 224 | Because it will open your eyes in a way that traveling and going on holiday doesn't quite I think it's still good | 因为它会打开你的眼睛的方式 旅行和去度假 并不完全,我认为它仍然很好 |
| 225 | Of course, and it's important to relax. | 当然了 放松很重要 |
| 226 | It's important to even scratch the surface of a new culture | 连新文化的表面都要刮去 |
| 227 | but ultimately living abroad I think is the best way to | 但归根结底,在国外生活 我认为是最好的方法 |
| 228 | Really expand your worldview to grow as a person and I think it will surprise you | 真正扩展你的世界观 成长作为一个人 我认为这会令你惊讶 |
| 229 | I | 一、导 言 |
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