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实战练英文 | 美国国防部长为空袭伊朗的历史性成果辩护,怒批

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0:00And again, before I pass it to the chairman, because you,再说一遍 在我传给主席之前 因为你
0:06and I mean specifically you, the press,我是说你 媒体
0:09specifically you, the press corps,特别是你,记者团,
0:11because you cheer against Trump so hard,因为你对特朗普如此激烈的欢呼
0:15it's like in your DNA and in your blood就像你的DNA和血液一样
0:17to cheer against Trump,对特朗普欢呼
0:19because you want him not to be successful so bad,因为你希望他不要这么成功
0:22you have to cheer against the efficacy of these strikes.你必须为打击的效果而欢呼
0:26You have to hope maybe they weren't effective.你必须要希望他们可能无效
0:28Maybe the way the Trump administration也许川普政府的方式
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1And again, before I pass it to the chairman, because you,再说一遍 在我传给主席之前 因为你
2and I mean specifically you, the press,我是说你 媒体
3specifically you, the press corps,特别是你,记者团,
4because you cheer against Trump so hard,因为你对特朗普如此激烈的欢呼
5it's like in your DNA and in your blood就像你的DNA和血液一样
6to cheer against Trump,对特朗普欢呼
7because you want him not to be successful so bad,因为你希望他不要这么成功
8you have to cheer against the efficacy of these strikes.你必须为打击的效果而欢呼
9You have to hope maybe they weren't effective.你必须要希望他们可能无效
10Maybe the way the Trump administration也许川普政府的方式
11is representative isn't true.代表性不是事实
12So let's take half truths, spun information,所以,让我们拿一半的真理, 消息,
13leaked information, and then spin it,泄露信息,然后旋转它,
14spin it in every way we can to try to cause doubt尽我们所能来引起怀疑
15and manipulate the public mind over whether or not并操纵公众的头脑 是否
16our brave pilots were successful.我们勇敢的飞行员成功
17How many stories have been written about写了多少个故事
18how hard it is to, I don't know, fly a plane for 36 hours?我不知道,坐飞机36小时有多难?
19Has MSNBC done that story?MSNBC做过那个故事吗?
20Has Fox?有福克斯吗?
21Have we done the story how hard that is?我们做了这个故事有多难吗?
22Have we done it two or three times?我们做过两三次吗?
23So that American people understand,这样美国人民才能理解
24how about how difficult it is to shoot a drone拍摄无人机有多难?
25from an F-15 or 16 or F-22 or F-35?从F-15或16或F-22或F-35?
26Or what it's like to man a Patriot battery?还是说当爱国者电池的滋味?
27Or how hard it is to refuel midair,或者给中空加油有多难
28giving the American people an understanding给予美国人民谅解
29of how complex and sophisticated this mission really was.任务到底有多复杂和复杂
30There are so many aspects of what our brave men and women did我们勇敢的男人和女人所做的 有很多方面
31that because of the hatred of this press corps,因为这个记者团的仇恨
32are undermined because people are trying to leak被破坏 因为人们试图泄露
33and spin that it wasn't successful.旋转它没有成功。
34It's irresponsible.不负责任
35It's about highly enriched uranium.是关于高浓缩铀的.
36Do you have certainty that all the highly enriched uranium你确信所有高浓缩铀
37was inside the Fordow Mountain or some of it,在福尔多山或其中的一部分
38because there were satellite photos因为有卫星照片
39that showed more than a dozen trucks there上面有十几辆卡车
40two days in advance.两天前
41Are you certain none of that highly enriched uranium你确定没有高浓缩铀吗?
42was moved?被移动了?
43Of course we're watching every single aspect,我们当然在看每个方面
44but Jennifer, you've been about the worst.但珍妮弗,你已经是最糟糕的。
45The one who misrepresents the most intentionally,妄言至极者,
46what the president says.总统怎么说?
47I'm familiar.常识.
48I was the first to report about the ventilation shafts我第一个报告通风井的情况
49on Saturday night.在周六晚上。 周六晚上。
50And in fact, I was the first to describe the B-2 bombers,事实上,我是第一个 描述B -2轰炸机,
51the refueling, the entire mission with great accuracy.整个任务都非常精确
52So I take issue with that.所以我不同意这一点。
53Well, good morning, everybody.大家早上好,你们好
54Just arrived last night, back from NATO.昨晚刚从北约回来
55Two days apart from my battle buddy,除了我的战友还有两天
56so it's good to see him this morning.今早见到他很高兴
57Good to see you, Mr. Chairman.很高兴见到你,主席先生。
58You too, sir.你也一样,先生。
59Where there was a historic outcome.曾经有过历史性成果的地方。
60I wanna start with that real quick.我想从这个开始,非常快。
61I think there's so much news, so many things happening我觉得有这么多的消息, 很多事情发生
62that oftentimes big momentous moments get missed.经常错过重大的时刻
63What President Trump accomplished in NATO yesterday川普总统昨天在北约取得的成就
64was game changing and historic.是游戏的改变和历史性的。
65A shift in burden sharing分担负担的转变
66to European responsibility in NATO欧洲在北约的责任
67that most would have said was impossible大多数人会说不可能
68at the beginning of his term.在他的任期开始时。
69But he said NATO needs to pay up.但他说北约需要付款.
70They started in the first term.他们开始于第一学期.
71And here in his second term, we've accelerated that.在他的第二个任期内,我们已经加快了速度。
7232 NATO countries committed to spending 5% of their GDP32个北约国家承诺支出其国内生产总值的5%
73on defense, on actually investing in the NATO alliance.在国防方面,在实际投资 北约联盟。
74So I hope with all the ink spilled,所以我希望所有的墨水都洒出来了
75all of your outlets find the time to properly recognize你们所有的人 都找时间正确识别
76this historic change in continental security大陆安全的这一历史性变化
77that other presidents tried to do,其他总统试图这样做,
78other presidents talked about.其他总统谈到。
79President Trump accomplished it.特朗普总统完成了这项任务.
80It's a huge deal.这是一个巨大的交易。
81You see, we're here this morning你看,我们今天早上来了
82because in hunting for scandals all the time,因为一直在寻找丑闻
83in trying to find wedges and spin stories,在寻找楔形和旋转的故事,
84this press corps and the press corps这个记者团和记者团
85miss historic moments.错过了历史时刻
86You miss historic moments like 5% at NATO,你错过了北约的5%的历史时刻
87which when you hear, I was in the closed door briefing.当你听到,我在闭门通报。
88I wish there could have been cameras in there.真希望里面有摄像头
89When you heard the prime ministers and presidents当你听到首相和总统的声音
90of other countries to a man and to a woman其他国家对男女
91looking at President Trump and saying,看着特朗普总统说,
92this never could have happened.这不可能发生
93Never would have happened.永远不会发生。
94Seemed impossible five years ago, two years ago,似乎不可能 五年前,两年前,
95eight years ago, but here we are because of your leadership.八年前,但我们在这里是因为你的领导。
96If you asked them the question,如果你问他们的问题,
97I bet they'd say the same thing.我打赌他们也会这么说
98But searching for scandals, you miss historic moments但寻找丑闻 你错过了历史时刻
99like recruiting at the Pentagon.就像在五角大楼招募人员一样
100Historic levels in the Army, the Air Force and the Navy.陆军,空军和海军的历史级别.
101Yeah, maybe there'll be a little mention here or there,是啊,也许这里或那里会有一点点提及,
102but because it was under President Trump's leadership,但因为它是在特朗普总统的领导下,
103because it was because Americans are responding to him因为美国人对他的反应
104as commander in chief,作为总司令,
105the press corps doesn't wanna write about it.记者不想写这个
106Or bring us to the topic of the moment,或者带我们来讨论眼下的问题
107the highly successful strikes in Iran.伊朗的罢工非常成功
108Let me read the bottom line here.让我读一下底线
109President Trump directed the most complex川普总统指挥最复杂的
110and secretive military operation in history.以及历史上的秘密军事行动
111And it was a resounding success resulting并产生了巨大的成功
112in a ceasefire agreement and the end of the 12 day war.停火协议和12天战争的结束
113There's been a lot of discussion about what happened已经讨论了很多事情
114and what didn't happen.而事情没有发生。
115Step back for a second.退后一点
116Because of decisive military action,由于果断的军事行动,
117President Trump created the conditions to end the war,特朗普总统创造了结束战争的条件,
118decimating, choose your word, obliterating,毁灭,选择你的话,抹杀,
119destroying Iran's nuclear capabilities.摧毁伊朗的核能力。
120I wanna read some of the assessments我想看看一些评估
121that have been provided.已经提供。
122Because whether it's fake news, CNN, MSNBC因为不管这是假新闻,CNN,MSNBC
123or the New York Times, there's been fawning coverage或纽约时报, 一直有闪烁的报道
124of a preliminary assessment.初步评估。
125I've had a chance to read it.我有机会读了
126Every outlet has breathlessly reported每一个出口都无声无息
127on a preliminary assessment from DIA.初步评估的结果。
128I'm looking at it right now.我今观此.
129Again, it was preliminary,同样,这是初步的,
130a day and a half after the actual strike.实际罢工后一天半.
131When it admits itself in writing当它承认自己是书面的
132that it requires weeks to accumulate the necessary data它需要几周来积累必要的数据
133to make such an assessment, it's preliminary.为了做出这样的评估, 这是初步的。
134It points out that it's not been coordinated它指出它没有得到协调
135with the intelligence community at all.和情报界的人
136There's low confidence in this particular report.对这份特别报告信心不大.
137It says in the report, there are gaps in the information.它在报告中说,信息存在差距。
138It says in the report, multiple linchpin assumptions报告中说, 多重关键假设
139are what this assessment, a linchpin assumption,是什么评估, 一个关键假设,
140you know what that is?你知道这是什么吗?
141That means your entire premise is predicated on a linchpin.这意味着你的整个前提 取决于一个关键。
142If you're wrong, everything else is wrong.如果你错了 其他的都是错的
143And yet, still, this report acknowledges然而,本报告承认,
144it's likely severe damage.很可能是严重损坏
145Again, this is preliminary, but leaked再说一遍,这是初步的,但泄露了
146because someone had an agenda to try to muddy the waters因为有人想把水弄脏
147and make it look like this historic strike wasn't successful.并让它看起来像 这场历史性的罢工没有成功。
148I'm gonna get to the chairman in a moment我马上去接会长
149because he's gonna lay out the particulars for you因为他会告诉你细节
150based on his professional military experience.根据他的专业军事经验
151But here's what other folks are saying.但其他人这么说
152The DIA that put that report out says报告公布的DIA说
153that this is a preliminary, low confidence report这是一份初步的低信心报告
154and will continue to be refined将继续完善
155as additional intelligence becomes available.随着额外情报的出现
156How about the Israeli Atomic Energy Commission?以色列原子能委员会如何?
157The devastating US strikes on Fordow美国对福尔多的毁灭性打击
158destroyed the site's critical infrastructure摧毁了该地的重要基础设施
159and rendered the enrichment facility inoperable.使浓缩设施无法运作。
160Have any of these quotes made their way任何这些引言都行了吗?
161into the New York Times or the Washington Post?进入纽约时报还是华盛顿邮报?
162MSNBC吗?
163CNN吗?
164Any of these quotes?有这些引文吗?
165How about this one?这个怎么样?
166This is a new one from the UN, the United Nations.这是来自联合国的新文件。
167No friend of the United States or certainly Israel often.没有美国的朋友 或肯定以色列经常。
168Here's the head of the UN Atomic Energy Agency this morning,这是今早的国际原子能机构负责人
169Rafael Grossi.拉斐尔·格罗斯
170US and Israeli strikes caused enormous damage美国和以色列的袭击造成了巨大的破坏
171to Iran's nuclear sites.前往伊朗的核基地
172Don't take my word for it.别听我的话
173How about the IDF's chief of staff?以色列国防军的参谋长怎么样?
174I can say here that the assessment is我可以在这里说,评估是
175that we significantly damaged the nuclear program,我们极大地破坏了核计划,
176setting it back by years, I repeat, years.我重复一遍,数年时间
177The Iranian foreign minister, the spokesman,伊朗外交部长、发言人、
178our nuclear installations have been badly damaged,我们的核设施严重受损,
179that's for sure, I'm sure that's an understatement.当然,我敢肯定, 这是一个轻描淡写。
180John Radcliffe, the director of the CIA,约翰·拉德克利夫 中情局局长
181putting out a statement just last night.昨晚刚发表了一份声明
182CIA can confirm that a body of credible intelligenceCIA可以证实一个可信的情报机构
183indicates Iran's nuclear program has been severely damaged表明伊朗的核计划受到严重破坏
184by recent targeted strikes.最近有针对性地罢工。
185This includes new intelligence from a historically reliable,包括历史可靠的新情报
186very different than preliminary assessment与初步评估非常不同
187with low confidence, he's saying,以低信心,他说,
188historically reliable and accurate source and method历史上可靠和准确的来源和方法
189that several key Iranian nuclear facilities were destroyed伊朗几个关键核设施被摧毁
190and would have to be rebuilt over the course of years.并且必须经过多年的重建
191CIA continues to collect additional reliably sourced中情局继续收集更多可靠来源
192information to keep appropriate decision makers保持适当决策者的信息
193fully informed.充分知情。
194DNI Tulsi Gabbard昨天怎么样?
195She writes, and I quote,她写,我引用
196new intelligence confirms what POTUS has stated新情报证实了总统所说的
197numerous times, Iran's nuclear facilities无数次,伊朗的核设施
198have been destroyed.已被摧毁。
199Institute for Science and International Security President科学和国际安全研究所所长
200David Albright, overall Israel and US attacks大卫·奥尔布赖特,以色列和美国的整体攻击
201have effectively destroyed已有效销毁
202UN Iran's centrifuge enrichment program.联合国伊朗离心浓缩计划。
203Time and time again, I can go down the list,一次又一次,我可以去下名单,
204those that understand, those that see,他们是明理的,是明理的,
205those that do proper assessments recognize进行适当评估的国家确认
206that what the United States military did was historic.美国军方的所作所为是历史性的。
207And again, before I pass it to the chairman,再说一遍 在我把它交给主席之前
208because you, and I mean specifically you, the press,因为你 我是说你 媒体
209specifically you, the press corps,特别是你,记者团,
210because you cheer against Trump so hard,因为你对特朗普如此激烈的欢呼
211it's like in your DNA and in your blood就像你的DNA和血液一样
212to cheer against Trump,对特朗普欢呼
213because you want him not to be successful so bad,因为你希望他不要这么成功
214you have to cheer against the efficacy of these strikes.你必须为打击的效果而欢呼
215You have to hope maybe they weren't effective,你必须要希望,也许他们没有有效,
216maybe the way the Trump administration也许川普政府的方式
217is representative isn't true.代表性不是事实
218So let's take half truths, spun information,所以,让我们拿一半的真理, 消息,
219leaked information, and then spin it,泄露信息,然后旋转它,
220spin it in every way we can to try to cause doubt尽我们所能来引起怀疑
221and manipulate the mind, the public mind并操纵心灵,公众的心灵
222over whether or not our brave pilots were successful.我们勇敢的飞行员是否成功
223How many stories have been written about写了多少个故事
224how hard it is to, I don't know,很难,我不知道,
225fly a plane for 36 hours?开飞机36小时?
226Has MSNBC done that story?MSNBC做过那个故事吗?
227Has Fox?有福克斯吗?
228Have we done the story how hard that is?我们做了这个故事有多难吗?
229Have we done it two or three times?我们做过两三次吗?
230So that American people understand让美国人民明白
231how about how difficult it is to shoot a drone拍摄无人机有多难?
232from an F-15 or 16 or F-22 or F-35,从F-15或16或F-22或F-35,
233or what it's like to man a Patriot battery,或者像一个爱国者电池一样
234or how hard it is to refuel midair,或多难加油中空,
235giving the American people an understanding给予美国人民谅解
236of how complex and sophisticated this mission really was.任务到底有多复杂和复杂
237There are so many aspects有这么多方面
238of what our brave men and women did我们勇敢的男女们所做的一切
239that because of the hatred of this press corps,因为这个记者团的仇恨
240are undermined because people are trying to leak被破坏 因为人们试图泄露
241and spin that it wasn't successful.旋转它没有成功。
242It's irresponsible.不负责任
243And folks in this room are privy to that information房间里的人都了解这个信息
244because of the proximity here in the Pentagon.因为五角大楼附近
245It's an important responsibility.这是一个重要的责任.
246And time and time again, classified information一次又一次地,保密信息
247is leaked or peddled for political purposes为政治目的而泄露或私通
248to try to make the president look bad.试图让总统看起来很糟糕。
249And what's really happening is you're undermining而真正发生的事情是 你在破坏
250the success of incredible B-2 pilots令人难以置信的B-2飞行员的成功
251and incredible F-35 pilots and incredible refuelers和不可思议的F -35飞行员和不可思议的加油机
252and incredible air defenders who accomplished their mission,以及完成使命的不可思议的空中防卫者,
253set back a nuclear program in ways以各种方式阻止核计划
254that other presidents would have dreamed.其他总统会梦想的
255How about we celebrate that?我们庆祝一下如何?
256How about we talk about how special America is不如我们谈谈美国有多特殊
257that only we have these capabilities?只有我们有这些能力?
258I think it's too much to ask unfortunately我很遗憾地要求太过分了
259for the fake news.为假新闻。
260So we're used to that.我们习惯了
261But we also have an opportunity to stand at the podium但我们也有机会站在讲台上
262and read the truth of what's really happening.并读出真实真相。
263And the reality is you wanna call it destroyed,现实是,你想称之为毁灭,
264you wanna call it defeated,你想称之为失败,
265you wanna call it obliterated, choose your word.你想说它被抹去了,选择你的话。
266This was an historically successful attack这是一次历史上成功的进攻
267and we should celebrate it as Americans.我们应该庆祝它成为美国人。
268And it gives us a chance to have peace,这给了我们一个和平的机会
269chance to have a deal,有机会达成协议,
270and an opportunity to prevent a nuclear Iran,和防止伊朗成为核国家的机会,
271which is something President Trump talked about川普总统谈到的
272for 20 years and no other presidents20年,没有其他总统
273had the courage to actually do.有勇气真正做到这一点。
274So with that, I wanna hand it over有了这个,我想把它交出来
275to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.致联合酋长委员会主席。
276They've done technical analysis on this,他们已经做了技术分析
277not just on the strike,不只是罢工,
278but also on our patriot defenders and all you did.还有我们的爱国者 还有你所做的一切
279And Mr. Chairman, I'll hand it over to you.主席先生,我会把它交给你。
280Good morning.早上好,你好吗?
281Thank you, Mr. Secretary, and good morning谢谢你,秘书先生,早上好
282and all of you, thank you for being here.和你们所有人,谢谢你来到这里。
283As a follow up to my comments on Sunday's press conference,作为对我在星期日记者招待会上的评论,
284I wanted to give you a few updates this morning我想给你一些更新今天早上
285on something I'm honored to do as a chairman作为主席我很荣幸
286and that's a chance to get to talk about有机会谈谈
287some of our service members and the incredible things我们的一些服务成员 和不可思议的东西
288that they do on behalf of our nation.他们代表我们的国家
289And I apologize ahead of time for the length我早点道歉
290and the detail.和细节。
291Today, I'm gonna brief you on a couple things.今天,我要向你们介绍一些事情。
292First, I'm gonna talk about our air defenders首先,我要谈谈我们的防空部队
293at Al Udeid in Qatar and their actions on Monday.以及他们星期一的行动。
294Then I'm gonna walk you through a little bit然后我会带你走过一点点
295about the academics that went into the attack关于参与袭击的学者
296against Fordow, the massive ordnance penetrator weapon,对付福尔多, 巨大的军械穿透武器,
297and we're gonna show a video that highlights我们要展示一个视频 突出
298the effects that that weapon has.武器的影响。
299Of course, nobody was down inside the target,当然了 目标里面没有人
300so we don't have video from the target.所以我们没有目标录像
301First, on Monday.首先,在星期一。
302As the president has stated, on Monday morning,正如总统在星期一早上所说,
303we began to receive indications and warnings我们开始收到信号和警告
304that Iran intended to attack US bases in the region.伊朗打算攻击美国在该地区的基地。
305That morning, building on the work那天早上,在工作的基础上继续
306that CENTCOM Commander Eric Carilla had done肯塔基司令埃里克·卡利亚
307and on the orders of the president,根据总统的命令,
308Al Udeid,位于卡塔尔Al Udeid空军基地
309and around the region, we assumed a minimum force posture.我们在该地区采取了最低限度的部队姿态。
310Most folks had moved off the base大部分人都搬离基地了
311to extend the security perimeter out away以扩大安全范围
312from what we assessed might be a target zone,从我们估计可能是一个目标区,
313except for a very few army soldiers at Al Udeid.除了在Al Udeid的少数军队士兵
314At that point, only two Patriot batteries那时只有两个爱国者电池
315remained on base, roughly 44 American soldiers大约44名美国士兵留在基地
316responsible for defending the entire base负责保卫整个基地
317to include CENTCOM's forward headquarters包括中心前方总部
318in the Middle East and entire air base中东和整个空军基地
319and all the US forces there.和所有的美军在那里。
320The oldest soldier was a 28-year-old captain.最年长的士兵是28岁的船长.
321The youngest was a 21-year-old private最小的是一个21岁的私人
322who'd been in the military for less than two years.他参军不到两年
323So let's put ourselves out there for a second.所以让我们自己 在那里一秒钟。
324Imagine you're that young First Lieutenant,想象一下你就是那个年轻的中尉
325you're 25 or 26 years old,你25岁或26岁
326and you've been assigned as the tactical director你被指派为战术总监
327inside the command and control element.在指挥和控制元素内。
328You, at that age, are the sole person那个年纪,你是唯一的人
329responsible to defend this base.负责保卫这个基地
330Listening next to you is your early warning operator你旁边听的是预警操作员
331whose job is to notify you of imminent attack.他们的任务是通知你们即将发生的攻击
332There's five people inside a vehicle车里有五个人
333and five people outside of a vehicle车外5人
334around these total of, as I said, 44.如我所说,这总共是44个
335By the way, you've sat in the Middle East for years,顺便说一句 你在中东坐了好几年了
336deployed over and over again,一次又一次的部署,
337extended multiple times, always being prepared,多次延长,总是在准备,
338but unsure of when that particular day will come却不知道那一个具体的日子是什么时候降临的,
339that you must execute your mission你必须执行你的使命
340and not fail at doing it.并且不会失败
341In this case, these Patriot crews在这种情况下,这些爱国者船员
342were deployed from Korea and Japan从韩国和日本部署
343as part of our US forces there作为我们美军的一部分
344to ensure that we had the most capable missiles确保我们拥有最有能力的导弹
345in the CENTCOM area of responsibility.(c) 在中心的责任领域。
346As the day continues, you start to hear随着一天的继续,你开始听到
347more and more chatter in the information space信息空间里越来越吵
348about a pending attack.有关即将发生的袭击。
349And as the sun starts to set in the west,当太阳从西面落下时
350you get orders from your higher headquarters你从上级总部得到命令
351to make sure that your missile batteries确保你的导弹电池
352are pointed to the north.指向北边
353There are just a few other teammates.还有几个队友
354It's hot, you're getting nervous,很热,你越来越紧张了
355and you expect an attack.你期待着会遭到攻击
356Outside of those Patriot vehicles,除了那些爱国者车辆之外,
357your hot crew, which is one NCO你的热门团队,这是NCO
358and four additional soldiers,和另外四名士兵,
359turns a key and relinquishes control of those missiles转成关键 放弃对导弹的控制
360to that young lieutenant inside the vehicle.给车里那个年轻的中尉
361And you wait.你等着
362You know that you're gonna have approximately two minutes,你知道你大概有两分钟
363120 seconds to either succeed or fail.120秒或成功或失败。
364And then at approximately 12, 30 p.m. on Monday,然后在星期一下午12点30分左右
365that's 7.30 p.m. in Qatar,卡塔尔是晚上7点30分
366as the sun sets in the west, Iran attacks.当太阳落到西部时,伊朗发动进攻。
367As the targets were detected,随着目标被发现,
368round after round of Patriot missiles一轮又一轮的爱国者导弹
369are ejected from their canisters被弹出他们的弹匣
370by an initial launch charge.以初始发射装置。
371Then the main solid rocket motor ignites.然后主固体火箭发动机点燃.
372You can feel this in your body你能在身体里感觉到这一点
373if you've ever been around a Patriot taking a shot.如果你曾经在爱国者身边拍摄。
374And round after round goes out一轮又一轮
375and guides against those missiles coming inbound.并引导导弹进入
376We believe that this is the largest single Patriot我们认为,这是最大的一个爱国者
377engagement in U.S. military history.参与美国军事史.
378And we were joined in this engagement我们一起参与了这场交易
379by the Qatari Patriot crews.由卡塔尔爱国者组织
380I'm not gonna tell you how many rounds were shot,我不会告诉你有多少子弹被射中,
381but it was a bunch because of classified purposes.但因为机密目的,是一堆
382And we're aware that something,我们意识到一些事情
383there's reports of something getting through.有消息说有东西经过
384What we do know is there was a lot of metal flying around.我们所知道的是 有很多金属在飞行
385Between attacking missiles being hit by Patriots,在攻击被爱国者击中的导弹之间
386boosters from attacking missiles being hit by Patriots,攻击被爱国者击中的导弹的助推器,
387the Patriots themselves flying around,爱国者自己飞来飞去,
388and the debris from those Patriots hitting the ground,和那些爱国者的碎片,
389there was a lot of metal flying around.有很多金属在飞行
390And yet our U.S. air defenders had only seconds然而我们的美国防空部队只有几秒钟
391to make complex decisions with strategic impact.作出具有战略影响的复杂决定。
392These awesome humans,这些可怕的人类,
393along with their Qatari brothers and sisters in arms,以及他们的卡塔尔兄弟姐妹,
394stood between a salvo of Iranian missiles站在伊朗导弹的沙尔沃之间
395and the safety of value deed.还有价值契约的安全
396They are the unsung heroes他们是无名英雄
397of the 21st century United States Army.21世纪美国陆军。
398And I know a lot of you have seen the videos online我知道你们很多人在网上看过视频
399and the excitement as those Patriots以及那些爱国者的兴奋
400departed their launchers and went up and guided.离开他们的发射器,然后上前向上行驶。
401This really demonstrates the combat capability这真的证明了战斗能力
402and capacity of our Army air defenders.我们军队的空中防卫力量
403Simply stated, they absolutely crushed it.简单地说,他们完全粉碎了它。
404If you'd flip this over, thanks.如果你能把这个翻过来,谢谢。
405Let me next move to a walkthrough接下来让我走出去
406of the GBU-57 massive ordnance penetrator weaponGBU-57大型穿甲弹武器
407and share a little bit about the planners并分享一下规划者们
408who did this and their work on the weapon.是谁干的 以及他们在武器方面的工作
409First, let me set the stage for you.首先,让我为你准备舞台。
410There's an organization in the U.S.在美国有一个组织.
411called the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, DITRA.被称为国防威胁减少局,DITRA。
412DITRA does a lot of things for our nation,DITRA为我们的国家做了很多事情,
413but DITRA is the world's leading expert但DITRA是世界领先的专家
414on deeply buried underground targets.深埋地下目标
415In 2009, a Defense Threat Reduction Agency officer2009年,国防威胁减少局官员
416was brought into a vault at an undisclosed location在一个秘密地点被带进金库
417and briefed on something going on in Iran.并介绍了伊朗发生的事情。
418For security purposes, I'm not gonna share his name.为了安全起见 我不会和他同名的
419He was shown some photos他看了几张照片
420and some highly classified intelligence和一些高度机密的情报
421of what looked like a major construction project看起来像一个重大建设项目
422in the mountains of Iran.在伊朗山区。
423He was tasked to study this facility,他的任务是研究这个设施,
424work with the intelligence community to understand it,与情报界合作 来理解它,
425and he was soon joined by an additional teammate.很快他又增加了一个队友
426For more than 15 years, this officer and his teammate15年多来,这位警官和他的队友
427lived and breathed this single target, Fordow,活了下来 呼吸了这个目标 福多
428a critical element of Iran'sA. 伊朗的《经济、社会、文化权利国际公约》
429covert nuclear weapons program.秘密核武器计划。
430He studied the geology.他研究地质学.
431He watched the Iranians dig it out.他看着伊朗人挖出来。
432He watched the construction, the weather,他看着建筑,天气,
433the discard material, the geology,丢弃物 地质学
434the construction materials, where the materials came from.建筑材料,材料的来源。
435He looked at the vent shaft, the exhaust shaft,他看着排气管 排气管
436the electrical systems, the environmental control systems,电力系统、环境控制系统、
437every nook, every crater, every piece of equipment going in每个角落,每个陨石坑, 每一个设备进入
438and every piece of equipment going out.和每件设备都出去。
439They literally dreamed about this target他们真的梦想着这个目标
440at night when they slept.他们晚上睡觉的时候
441They thought about it, driving back and forth to work,他们想起来,开着车去上班,
442and they knew from the very first days what this was for.他们从头开始就知道这是干什么的
443You do not build a multi-layered underground bunker complex你不建造多层地下掩体
444with centrifuges and other equipment in a mountain在山上安装离心机和其他设备
445for any peaceful purpose.为了任何和平目的。
446They weren't able to discuss this with their family,他们不能和家人讨论这件事
447their wives, their kids, their friends,他们的妻子,他们的孩子,他们的朋友,
448but they just kept grinding it out.但他们只是不断磨练它。
449And along the way, they realized we did not have a weapon在路上,他们意识到我们没有武器
450that could adequately strike and kill this target.足以击毙这个目标
451So they began a journey to work with industry于是他们开始了与业界合作的旅程
452and other tacticians to develop the GBU-57.和其他战术家开发GBU-57.
453They tested it over and over again,他们一次又一次的测试
454tried different options, tried more after that.尝试了不同的选择,然后尝试更多。
455They accomplished hundreds of test shots他们完成了数百次测试
456and dropped many full-scale weapons并投下许多大规模武器
457against extremely realistic targets for a single purpose.对抗极端现实的目标,只为了一个目的。
458Kill this target at the time and place在时间和地点杀死这个目标
459of our nation's choosing.我们国家的选择。
460And then on a day in June of 2025,然后在2025年6月的一天,
461more than 15 years after they started their life's work,在他们开始工作15年之后
462the phone rang and the President of the United States电话铃声和美国总统
463ordered the B-2 force that you've supported命令你支援的B2部队
464to go strike and kill this target.去打击和杀死这个目标。
465Yesterday, I had the incredible honor and privilege昨天,我有一个令人难以置信的荣誉和特权
466of spending time with these two与这两个人相处的时间
467Defense Threat Reduction Agency officers国防威胁减少局官员
468who've given so much.谁给了这么多。
469One of them said, quote,其中一人说,
470I can't even get my head around this.我甚至不能得到我的头 围绕这一点。
471My heart is so filled with the pride我的心充满了骄傲
472of being a part of this team.成为这个团队的一员。
473I am so honored to be a part of this.我很荣幸能参与其中
474To you both, thank you and thank you to your families.向二位,谢和亲.
475Operation Midnight Hammer was the culmination午夜锤子行动是高潮
476of those 15 years of incredible work.15年来的令人难以置信的工作
477The air crews, the tanker crews,机组,油轮组,
478the weapons crews that built the weapons,制造武器的武器组员,
479the load crews that loaded it.装货的船员
480Before I run through this video today,在我今天看过这段视频之前
481I wanna talk a little bit about weaponeering我想谈谈武器交易
482and what goes into an attack.和什么进入攻击。
483Weaponeering is the science of evaluating a target.武器制造是评估目标的科学
484I mentioned all of those factors before我之前提到过所有这些因素
485that these two DITRA officers had thought about.这两位DITRA官员曾想过。
486Ultimately, weaponeering is determining归根结底,武器制造正在决定
487the right weapon and fuse combination正确的武器和引信组合
488to achieve the desired effects实现预期效果
489and maximum destruction against a target.和对目标的最大破坏。
490In the case of Fordot, the DITRA team understood对于福尔多,DITRA团队理解
491with a high degree of confidence充满信心
492the elements of the target required to kill its functions停止其职能所需的目标要素
493and the weapons were designed, planned and delivered武器的设计、规划和交付
494to ensure that they achieve the effects in the mission space.以确保它们在飞行任务空间取得效果。
495By the way, in the beginning of its development,顺便说一下,在它发展之初,
496we had so many PhDs working on the MOP program我们有很多博士 工作在MOP计划
497doing modeling and simulation进行建模和模拟
498that we were quietly and in a secret way我们悄悄地秘密地
499the biggest users of supercomputer hours超级计算机时间的最大用户
500within the United States of America.在美利坚合众国境内。
501So let me talk about the graphic a little bit.让我来谈谈这个图形。
502The GBU-57, which all of you I know know你们都知道的GBU -57
503is a 30,000 pound weapon dropped only by the B-2.30,000磅的武器只被B -2击中
504It's comprised of steel, explosive and a fuse由钢、炸药和引信组成
505programmed bespokely each weapon每件武器都按程序布置
506to achieve a particular effect inside the target.以在目标内取得特定效果。
507Each weapon had a unique desired impact angle,每件武器都有一个独特的目标
508arrival, final heading and a fuse setting.到达,最后方向和引信设置。
509The fuse is effectively what tells the bomb when to function.引信能有效地告诉炸弹何时起作用。
510A longer delay in a fuse,更长时间的引信延迟,
511the deeper the weapon will penetrate武器越深就会穿透
512and drive into the target.开车进入目标
513So on Fordow, in June of 2008,因此,在福尔多, 2008年6月,
514you can see these three holes.你可以看到这三个洞。
515Depicted here is the main exhaust shaft这儿是主要的排气井
516with two additional ventilation shafts on either side.两边还有两个通风井
517The United States decided to strike美国决定罢工
518these two ventilation shafts seen here on the main graphic这两根通风井在主要图形上
519as the primary point of entry into the mission space.作为进入飞行任务空间的主要入口。
520In the days preceding the attack against Fordow,在进攻福多前几天
521the Iranians attempted to cover the shafts with concrete伊朗人试图用混凝土覆盖轴线
522to try to prevent an attack.试图防止攻击。
523I won't share the specific dimensions of the concrete cap,我不会分享混凝土盖的具体尺寸
524but you should know that we know what the dimensions但你应该知道 我们知道什么维度
525of those concrete caps were.这些混凝土盖是。
526The planners had to account for this.计划者必须对此负责。
527They accounted for everything.他们负责一切。
528The cap was forcibly removed by the first weapon第一件武器强行拆除了帽子
529and the main shaft was uncovered.发现主井。
530Weapons two, three, four, five武器二、三、四、五
531were tasked to enter the main shaft,负责进入主井,
532move down into the complex搬进综合体
533at greater than 1,000 feet per second1 000英尺/秒以上
534and explode in the mission space.在任务空间爆炸
535Weapon number six was designed on each side,第六号武器设计在两侧,
536so there were six on each side.所以每边有六个人
537Weapons number six was designed as a flex weapon六号武器被设计成灵活武器
538to allow us to cover if one of the preceding jets允许我们掩护 如果之前的飞机之一
539or one of the preceding weapons did not work.或前一种武器无效。
540The video I'm about to show you is a culmination我要给你们看的视频是高潮
541of over 15 years of development and testing.15年以上的开发和试验。
542As I said, hundreds of test shots on various models.正如我所说,在各种型号上进行了数百次测试。
543This is one weapon, so if you take a view of this,这是一个武器,所以如果你看到这一点,
544five additionals, you'll get a sense再来五个,你就会明白
545of what this looks like.看起来像什么
546Hopefully you can see it and there's not too much reflection.希望你们能看到 并且没有太多反射。
547Tom runs our videos out there.汤姆在那边播放我们的视频
548We'll run it at full speed so you can see it我们全速运行 这样你就能看见了
549and then go back through it.然后再通过它。
550Go ahead, Tom, keep it going for a minute.来吧,汤姆,保持一分钟。
551You'll see inside the mission space.你会在任务空间里看到
552Unlike a normal surface bomb,不像普通的地面炸弹
553you won't see an impact crater你看不到撞击坑
554because they're designed to deeply bury and then function.因为它们被设计为深埋然后起作用
555I know there's been a lot of questions about that.我知道这有很多问题
556All six weapons at each vent at Fordow福尔多每个通风口的六件武器
557went exactly where they were intended to go.他们正准备去的地方
558A bomb has three effects that causes damage,一颗炸弹有三种作用 会造成破坏,
559blast, fragmentation, and overpressure.爆炸,破碎,和过度压抑。
560In this case, the primary kill mechanism在这种情况下,主要杀戮机制
561in the mission space was a mix of overpressure and blast在任务空间里 混合了过度压力和爆炸
562ripping through the open tunnels打开隧道
563and destroying critical hardware.摧毁关键硬件
564The majority of the damage we assessed我们评估的大部分损失
565based on our extensive modeling was a blast layer根据我们广泛的模型 是一个爆炸层
566combined with the impulse extending from the shock.再加上冲击产生的冲动
567Imagine what this looks like six times over.想象一下这看起来像六次。
568A point that I wanna make here,我想说的一点
569the joint force does not do BDA.联合部队不执行BDA。
570By design, we don't grade our own homework.从设计上讲,我们不给自己的家庭作业分级.
571The intelligence community does.情报界确实如此。
572But here's what we know following the attacks但这里我们知道 在攻击之后
573and the strikes on Fordow.和对福多的攻击。
574First, that the weapons were built,首先,武器是建造的,
575tested, and loaded properly.测试,并正确装载。
576Two, the weapons were released on speed and on parameters.二,武器按速度和参数释放.
577Three, the weapons all guided to their intended targets三,武器都指向预定目标
578and to their intended aim points.以及他们的预期目标。
579Four, the weapons functioned as designed,第四,武器的作用是设计,
580meaning they exploded.意味着他们爆炸了。
581We know this through other means,我们通过其他方式知道这一点,
582intelligence means that we have that we're visibly,情报意味着我们有 我们明显,
583we're visibly able to see them.我们可以看到他们。
584And we know that the trailing jets我们知道后方的喷气式飞机
585saw the first weapons function看到了第一个武器功能
586and the pilots stated, quote,飞行员说,
587"'This was the brightest explosion that I've ever seen."'这是我见过的最亮的爆炸.
588"'It literally looked like daylight.'""'它字面上看起来像白天。"
589Let me now turn to the bomber crews themselves,现在让我来谈谈轰炸机组
590give you a few details about them.给你一些细节
591The crews that attacked Fordow袭击福多的船员
592were from the Active Duty Air Force是现役空军的
593and the Missouri Air National Guard.还有密苏里州空军国民警卫队
594The crews ranked from captain to colonel船员从队长到上校
595and most were graduates of the Air Force Weapons School大部分是空军武器学校的毕业生
596headquartered at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada.总部位于内华达州的内利斯空军基地.
597I will state for the record我将郑重声明
598that there is no beach volleyball or football没有沙滩排球或橄榄球
599at the Air Force Weapons School.在空军武器学校
600They were male and female aviators on this mission.他们是这次任务的男女飞行员。
601And a crew member told me when I talked to them我和他们谈话时,有个船员告诉我
602on video the other day that this felt like the Super Bowl,那天在视频上 感觉就像超级碗
603the thousands of scientists,成千上万的科学家,
604airmen, and maintainers all coming together.飞行员 维修人员都聚集在一起
605One last story about people.最后一个关于人的故事。
606When the crews went to work on Friday,当船员们星期五上班时
607they kissed their loved ones goodbye,他们吻了他们爱的人,
608not knowing when or if they'd be home.不知道他们什么时候回家
609Late on Saturday night,周六晚间
610their families became aware of what was happening.他们的家人意识到了发生了什么。
611And on Sunday, when those jets returned from Whiteman,星期天 当那些喷气机从怀特曼回来时
612their families were there.他们的家人在那里。
613Flags flying and tears flowing.旗飞泪流.
614I have chills literally talking about this.我有点冷淡 直言不讳
615The jets rejoined into a formation of four airplanes喷气式飞机重新组成了四架飞机
616followed by a formation of three随后组成三个
617and came up overhead Whiteman proudly in the traffic pattern在交通格局中 怀特曼骄傲地登上天台
618pitching out to land right over the base准备降落在基地上空
619and landing to the incredible cheers of their families降落在他们家人的欢呼声中
620who sacrifice and serve他们牺牲和崇拜,
621right alongside their family members.和他们的家人一起
622Like I said, there were a lot of flags and a lot of tears.如我所说,旗帜多而泪多.
623One commander told me this is a moment有个指挥官告诉我,现在是时候了
624in the lives of our families that they will never forget.他们永远不会忘记的
625That, my friends, is what America's Joint Force does.朋友们,这是美国联合部队的工作。
626We think, we develop, we train, we rehearse, we test,我们认为,我们开发,我们训练, 我们排练,我们测试,
627we evaluate every single day.我们每天都在评估
628And when the call comes to deliver, we do so.而当呼叫到来,我们这样做。
629I could not be more proud standing up here today今天站在这里我再自豪不过了
630of our Joint Force.我们的联合部队。
631I'm filled with gratitude that I get to tell their story.我满怀感激地说出他们的故事
632And as we stand here right now,而当我们现在站在这里,
633our forces remain on a high state of readiness我们的军队仍然处于高度戒备状态
634in the region, prepared to defend themselves.准备保卫自己
635And one last thing, our adversaries around the world最后一件事,我们在世界各地的对手
636should know that there are other DITRA team members应该知道还有其他DIRA团队成员
637out there studying targets for the same amount of time在相同时间研究目标
638and will continue to do so.并将继续这样做。
639Thank you very much.谢谢
640I apologize for the length.对不起,时间太长了。
641I look forward to your questions.我期待着你的问题。
642Thank you, Mr. Chairman.谢谢你,主席先生。
643I would just, thank you, by the way,我只是,谢谢你,顺便说一句,
644for that extensive work, the lay down.为了那份广泛的工作,躺下。
645I mean, even, do you have that laser pointer?我的意思是,甚至,你有激光指针吗?
646Yes, sir.是 长官
647Thank you, squaring me away as always.谢谢你,像往常一样纠缠我
648I mean, even in just the public reporting,我的意思是,即使只是公开报道,
649if you see the post-strike shaft of the three holes,如果你看到三个洞的后击杆,
650the vast majority, and fairly so,绝大多数人,同样,
651the vast majority speculation has been,绝大多数猜测是,
652those are the three strike points,这是三个攻击点,
653when in actuality, what you realize is these are the vents,当你意识到这些是通风口时,
654these are the caps, the first munition took the cap off,这些是盖子, 第一个弹药卸下盖子,
655and the other five went down the center hole,其他五个人从中央洞走下
656which if you're planning the target,如果你计划目标
657you would want it to be the direct one going to the bottom.你会希望它 直接到底部。
658These are the types of things这些是事物的类型
659that go into the planning for a strike进入罢工计划
660that we wouldn't, the Pentagon would not expect我们不会,五角大楼不会期望
661the press corps or the American people记者或美国人民
662to initially understand,开始理解,
663so laying this information out is helpful.因此,提供这些信息是有帮助的。
664But it's also why we asked for a beat,但这也是为什么我们要求节拍,
665for a moment, for a day or two,一秒钟,一两天,
666the opportunity to tell that story说出这个故事的机会
667because as the chairman said,因为正如主席所说,
668these men and women that did this mission,这些男人和女人做了这个任务,
669they just want to do their job.他们只是想做他们的工作。
670They're not expecting their story to be told.他们不期望他们的故事被讲述.
671They're not expecting the glory.他们不期待荣耀。
672They are grateful for the flags and the hugs of family.他们感谢旗帜和家人的拥抱。
673That's why they do the job.所以他们才会这么做
674But they also know they were a part of something historic.但他们也知道自己是历史的一部分
675We know how historic it was.我们知道这是多么历史性的。
676The chairman does.理事长知道
677I know, our staffs know, and so that's why we are,我知道,我们的工作人员知道, 这就是为什么我们是,
678and the President of the United States knows,美国总统知道,
679and that's why it's almost personal这就是为什么它几乎是个人的
680when we see the way in which leaks are used当我们看见泄漏的方式时,
681to try to disparage the outcome试图贬低结果
682or muddy the waters about the impact of what happened或把水弄得泥土 说出发生了什么
683without being responsible with information而不对信息负责
684and allowing the professionals to assess并允许专业人员评估
685and provide that information just like the chairman did.和主席一样提供情报
686So thank you, Mr. Chairman, for that information,主席先生,谢谢你的通报,
687and we welcome a few additional questions.我们欢迎另外几个问题。
688Yes, sir.是 长官
689General, on Sunday you said final battle damage将军,星期天你说最后的战斗损失
690will take some time, and you also said需要一些时间,你还说
691I think BDA is still pending,我觉得BDA还没解决
692and it would be way too early for me to comment那时我评论太早了
693on what may or may not still be there at New Cliff Resort.在新克里夫度假村可能还有、也可能没有
694So that was just over three days ago.所以,这只是三天前。
695So what has changed?那么,有什么变化?
696Would you use the term obliterated as well?你也会用被抹去的词吗?
697Sir, like I said, we don't do BDA.先生,就像我说的,我们不做BDA。
698I'll refer that to the intelligence community, and.我会提到情报界,还有。
699You were talking with them.你在跟他们说话
700I mean, what changed in the past three days过去三天的改变
701and make you so, you know.让你如此,你知道的。
702Sir, I think I said.长官,我想我说过了
703I mean, I think I explained what changed.我的意思是,我想我解释了什么改变了。
704There was a great deal of irresponsible reporting有很多不负责任的报告
705based on leaks, preliminary information in low confidence.基于泄露,初步信息 低机密。
706Again, when someone leaks something,再说一遍,当有人泄露了什么东西
707they do it with an agenda.他们用一个议程来做。
708And when you leak a portion of an intelligence assessment,当你泄露一部分情报评估
709but just a little portion, just the little portion只是一点点,只是一点点
710that makes it seem like maybe the strike wasn't effective,这样看来 罢工可能无效
711then you start a news cycle,然后开始新闻循环,
712whether it's the Washington Post or Fox News or CNN不管是《华盛顿邮报》还是《福克斯新闻》还是《CNN》
713or MSNBC, you start a news cycle或者MSNBC,你开始新闻循环
714that starts to call into question.这开始引起质疑。
715The ethics, no, that's why.伦理,不,这就是原因。
716So you bring the chairman here,所以,你把主席在这里,
717who's not involved in politics.他没有参与政治。
718He doesn't do politics.他不从政.
719That's my lane to understand and translate那是我理解和翻译的道
720and talk about those types of things.并谈论这些类型的东西。
721So I can use the word obliterated.这样我就能用被抹去的字眼了
722He could use defeat, destroyed, assess all of those things.他可以使用失败,毁灭, 评估所有这些东西。
723But ultimately, we're here to clarify但归根结底 我们是来澄清
724what these weapons are capable of,这些武器的能力,
725which anyone with two eyes, some ears and a brain双眼、耳朵和大脑的人
726can recognize that kind of firepower可以识别这种火力
727with that specificity at that location and others在那个地点和其他地点
728is gonna have a devastating effect.会有毁灭性的影响
729So we all recognize there will be days and weeks ahead.因此,我们都认识到,未来还有几天和几周。
730That's why yesterday I said,这就是为什么昨天我说,
731if you wanna know what's going on at Fordow,如果你想知道福尔多发生了什么
732you better go there and get a big shovel你最好去找个大铲子
733because no one's under there right now.因为现在没人在下面
734No one's under there able to assess没有人能评估
735and everyone's using reflections of what they see.每个人都在思考自己所看到的
736And that's why the Israelis, the Iranians, the IAEA,这就是为什么以色列人,伊朗人,原子能机构,
737the UN, to a man and to a woman联合国,对男女
738who recognize the capability of this weapon system承认武器系统能力的人
739are acknowledging how destructive it's been.承认它有多破坏性。
740So that's what's changed.故曰变化.
741Just three or four days later, what changed?三四天后,有什么变化?
742This is a point, this is how difficult it is这一点,这是多难
743to actually manage, you just watched a video要真正管理,你只是看一个视频
744of what this weapon is capable of.拥有武器的能力
745That's where we find our confidence这就是我们找到信心的地方
746is in the skill of men and women是男人和女人的技能
747and the capability of the systems they employed及其使用的系统的能力
748and the recognition so far on the reflections以及迄今为止对思考的认识
749that it was a highly successful mission.这是一个非常成功的任务。
750Sir, I think you could, I'd say go out,先生,我认为你可以,我会说出去,
751the IC should be able to help you answer that question.IC应该可以帮助你回答这个问题。
752They look at a variety, as the secretary has alluded to,正如秘书提到的那样,他们审视了各种情况,
753we look at a variety of things.我们看的是各种各样的东西。
754I don't do that, they do.我不这样做,他们这样做。
755All different sources of intel,所有不同的情报来源
756which I'd refer you to them to get clarity on the instance.我将请他们澄清案情
757So again, I go back to the IC,再说一遍,我回到IC,
758whether it's Director Radcliffe or ODNI Gabbard,不管是拉德克利夫局长还是ODNI Gabbard局长
759I read the statements at the beginning,我读了发言的开头,
760they're the ones aggregating the intelligence是他们收集情报的
761and they're saying nuclear facilities were destroyed他们说核设施被摧毁了
762and would have to be rebuilt over a number of years.并需要重建几年。
763Facilities were destroyed.设施被摧毁。
764What do we got right here?这里有什么?
765Sir, you cited a body of credible intelligence先生,你引用了一批可靠的情报
766to suggest the damage at Fort Oh and other places.说明吴堡和其他地方的破坏情况
767What is that referring to and when can we say it?这指的是什么,我们何时可以说?
768I was reading from the CIA director's statement,我在读中情局局长的声明
769which came out last night.昨晚出来的
770CIA, again, they do the BDA, they do the assessment.CIA,他们再次做BDA, 他们做评估。
771CIA can confirm that a body of credible intelligenceCIA可以证实一个可信的情报机构
772indicates, it also goes on to say,它又说,
773new intelligence from historically reliable来自历史上可靠的新情报
774and accurate sources and methods.以及准确的来源和方法。
775Now, you can imagine.现在,你可以想象。
776You can imagine the CIA director's gonna be very careful你可以想象中情局局长会非常小心
777about how he articulates things of that sensitivity,关于他如何表达 事情的敏感,
778classified, secret, top secret, compartmentalized.机密 机密 最高机密 分门别类
779He's gonna know things that you're not gonna know,他会知道一些你不知道的事
780that the press isn't gonna know,媒体不会知道,
781and he's reflecting that the sources he's seeing他反映的是 他看到的消息来源
782are highly credible.是非常可信的。
783They've given credible intelligence,他们提供了可靠的情报
784they are those processes of giving credible intelligence它们是提供可信情报的过程
785in the past and that's what he's basing it on.过去,他就是以此为基础
786Do you think we need to see that?你觉得我们需要看到吗?
787Do you have a top secret clearance, sir?你有绝密许可吗,先生?
788Eventually, the American public wants it.最终,美国公众想要.
789Yes.对
790Yeah, you.对,你
791I wanted to ask briefly just.我想简单问一下。
792No, not you, checkered shirt.不,不是你,检查过的衣服。
793Oh, so Mike Glenn with the Washington Times.哦,所以迈克・格伦 与华盛顿时报。
794Yes, sir.是 长官
795Thanks, sir.谢谢,先生。
796Anybody who's ever read a battalion S2 report任何读过S2营报告的人
797after a fight knows that it's usually,斗殴后知道通常是
798the initial report is usually wrong, sometimes grossly so.初次报告通常是错误的,有时甚至严重。
799Has this business, what happened in this incident有这个生意, 发生了什么事在这个事件中
800caused you all to sort of rethink the intelligence process让你们重新思考情报程序
801or the dissemination or do you think it's just about,或传播 或者你认为它只是,
802I mean, if the process itself我的意思是,如果进程本身
803doesn't require any more adjustment?不需要再调整吗?
804Well, I can tell you what the chairman told me我可以告诉你主席告诉我的
805in the situation room and reminded us all,并提醒我们所有人,
806which is alongside what you just said, sir,这是与你刚才所说的,先生,
807is that the first reports are almost always wrong.最初的报告几乎总是是错误的。
808They're almost always incomplete, right?他们几乎总是不完整,对不对?
809Anything, whether it's a squad level operation什么都行,不管是班级行动
810or a strategic level operation,或战略层面的行动,
811the initial reflections you get are coming at you你得到的最初的反射会来袭
812at a high rate of speed from a lot of different sources.速度快,来自不同来源
813So your job is to step back and assess them.所以,你的工作是退后 并评估它们。
814And that's why we're urging caution about putting it,这就是为什么我们敦促谨慎 把它,
815premising entire stories on biased leaks在有偏见的泄密中预示整个故事
816to biased publications, trying to make something look better.试图让事情看起来更好
817How about we take a beat, recognize first the success不如我们先拍拍,先认清成功
818of our warriors, hold them up, tell their stories,我们的战士,抓住他们,讲述他们的故事,
819celebrate that, wave an American flag,庆祝一下,挥舞美国国旗,
820be proud of what we accomplished.为我们的成就感到自豪。
821And in the meantime, I can assure you在此期间,我可以向你保证
822the chairman and his staff, the intelligence community,主席及其工作人员 情报部门
823our staff and others are doing all the assessments我们的工作人员和其他人正在做所有的评估
824necessary to make sure that mission was indeed successful.有必要确保这次任务确实取得成功。
825Yes, right there.是的,就在这里。
826Sir, thank you, Mr. Secretary.主席先生,谢谢你,秘书先生。
827Iran has recognized that their nuclear program伊朗承认其核计划
828was indeed severely damaged,确实是严重受损,
829but they also said that the U.S. Reichs但他们也说美国帝国
830only strengthened their ability and their determination只会加强他们的能力和决心
831to complete their nuclear program.完成他们的核计划。
832How do you respond to that, sir?先生,你对此有什么反应?
833Is that a provocation from Iran?这是伊朗的挑衅吗?
834Well, I would say Iran's gonna have to say好吧,我想说伊朗会不得不说
835a lot of things right now现在很多事情
836in order to bolster their image, especially internally.为了提升他们的形象,尤其是内部形象。
837You know, in the media, there's a lot of things媒体上有很多事情
838they'll say for domestic consumption.他们会说国内消费。
839But we're watching very closely what they do.但我们非常密切地注视着他们的行为。
840Again, that's the intel community.再说一遍,那是情报界
841Our job as the chairman,我们作为主席的工作
842and the chairman laid it out so beautifully,和主席的布置如此美丽,
843our job is to be prepared.我们的工作是准备的
844And how proud are you?你有多骄傲?
845How proud am I?我有多骄傲?
846I didn't know the full story of those men and women我不知道这些男人和女人的完整故事
84715 years ago who've been pointing at that target.15年前谁一直在指向那个目标。
848That makes me proud to be an American.做个美国人让我感到骄傲
849That's an awesome story.这是一个真棒的故事。
850I hope we can tell more aspects of that我希望我们能多说一些事情
851in an unclassified way in the future.以不保密的方式在未来。
852That's a great thing to know.闻此妙法.
853Our job is to be prepared when the commander-in-chief calls等总司令打来电话 我们的工作就是做好准备
854based on those assessments.根据这些评估。
855So of course, our IC, the Intelligence Committee,当然 我们的IC 情报委员会
856will keep watching what Iran does将会继续监视伊朗的行为
857and pay attention to that.并注意这一点。
858But the president has created the contours,但总统创造了轮廓
859the opportunity for a deal, for peace,交易的机会,和平的机会,
860in something that the world said was intractable在世界所言难解的事物中
861that wasn't possible.这是不可能的。
862And we got that peace, that ceasefire,我们得到了和平,停火,
863that option because of strength,因为力量的缘故
864because of his willingness to use American military might因为他愿意使用美国的军事力量
865that no one else on the planet can do地球上没有人能做
866with the kind of planners and operators与一类规划者和操作者
867that the chairman just laid out.刚才主席说的
868Yes, sir.是 长官
869Right there.就在这里。
870Yep.对
871Yes, sir.是 长官
872Just a quick question.问个问题
873There's public imagery available saying有公开的图像说
874that highly enriched uranium was moved out of Fordo高浓缩铀被移出福多
875before the strikes.在罢工前
876Is that accurate?准确吗?
877Have you seen that?你见过吗?
878And Mr. Chairman, a question for you.主席先生,一个问题给你。
879Have you been pressured to change your assessment你是否被迫改变你的评估
880or give a more rosy intelligence assessment to us或者给我们一个更华丽的情报评估
881by any political factors,任何政治因素,
882whether it's the president or the secretary?不管是总统还是秘书?
883And if you were, would you do that?如果你是,你会这样做吗?
884Yeah, well, that one's easy, no.是啊,这个很简单,不。
885No, I have not.不,我没有。
886And no, I would not.我不会的
887My job as the chairman is to offer a range of options我作为主席的职责是提供各种选择
888to the president and the National Command Authority总统和国家指挥机构
889to deliver the risks associated with each of those应付其中每一项风险
890and then take the orders of the National Command Authority然后听从国家指挥局的命令
891and go execute them.去处决他们
892I've never been pressured by the president我从来没有受到总统的压力
893or the secretary to do anything other或秘书做任何事情
894than tell them exactly what I'm thinking.而不是告诉他们我在想什么
895And that's exactly what I've done.我就是这样做的
896There's nothing that I've seen that suggests没有什么我见过的 暗示
897that we didn't hit exactly what we wanted to hit我们没有打到我们想要的
898in those locations.在那些地点。
899It's about highly enriched uranium.是关于高浓缩铀的.
900Do you have certainty that all the highly enriched uranium你确信所有高浓缩铀
901was inside the Fordo mountain or some of it,在佛多山或其中一部分,
902because there were satellite photos因为有卫星照片
903that showed more than a dozen trucks there上面有十几辆卡车
904two days in advance.两天前
905Are you certain none of that highly enriched uranium你确定没有高浓缩铀吗?
906was moved?被移动了?
907Of course, we're watching every single aspect,当然,我们正在观察每一个方面,
908but Jennifer, you've been about the worst,但是珍妮弗,你已经是最糟糕的,
909the one who misrepresents the most intentionally妄言至极者,
910what the president says.总统怎么说?
911I'm familiar.常识.
912I was the first to report about the ventilation shafts我第一个报告通风井的情况
913on Saturday night.在周六晚上。 周六晚上。
914And in fact, I was the first to describe the B-2 bombers,事实上,我是第一个 描述B -2轰炸机,
915the refueling, the entire mission with great accuracy.整个任务都非常精确
916So I take issue with that.所以我不同意这一点。
917I appreciate you acknowledging我很感激你承认
918that this was the first, the most successful mission这是第一次,最成功的任务
919based on operational security基于业务安全
920that this department has done since you've been here.部门已经做了,因为你在这里。
921And I appreciate that.我很感激这一点。
922So we're looking at all aspects of intelligence┮и薄厨┮Τ
923and making sure we have a sense of what was where.并且确保我们有 感知在哪里。
924Why not acknowledge the female pilots为什么不承认女飞行员?
925that also participated in this mission?也参与了这次任务?
926The early messages that you sent out你发出的早期讯息
927only congratulated the boys.只祝贺孩子们。
928So when I say something like our boys and bombers,所以当我说出我们的孩子和轰炸机
929see, this is the kind of thing the press does, right?你看,这是一种 媒体做的事,对不对?
930Of course, the chairman mentioned a female bomber pilot.当然,主席提到了一名女性轰炸机飞行员。
931That's fantastic.这太棒了。
932She's fantastic.次
933She's a hero.她是一个英雄。
934I want more female bomber pilots.我要更多的女性轰炸机飞行员。
935I hope the men and women of our country sign up我希望我们国家的男人和女人都报名
936to do such brave and audacious things.做这样勇敢和大胆的事。
937But when you spin it as,但当你旋转它作为,
938because I say our boys and bombers as a common phrase,因为我说我们的男孩和轰炸机 是一个常见的短语,
939I'll keep saying things like that,我会一直说这种话
940whether they're men or women,不管是男人还是女人
941very proud of that female pilot,对那个女飞行员非常自豪,
942just like I'm very proud of those male pilots.就像我为那些男飞行员感到骄傲
943And I don't care if it's a male or a female我不在乎是男还是女
944in that cockpit and the American people don't care,在驾驶舱和美国人民不在乎,
945but it's the obsession with race and gender但这是对种族和性别的迷恋
946in this department that's changed priorities.在这个部门 改变优先级。
947We don't do that anymore.我们不这样做了。
948We don't play your little games.我们不玩你的小游戏。
949Yes, right there.是的,就在这里。
950Do you know for certain that the uranium was removed你知不知道铀被取走了?
951from the facility before the B-2 struck?在B -2袭击前从设施里?
952So I'm not aware of any intelligence that I've reviewed所以,我不知道任何情报 我已经审查了
953that says things were not where they were supposed to be,说事情不是他们应该去的地方,
954moved or otherwise.动了还是没动过
955Yes.对
956Kelly Meyer与"新闻国家"合作.
957And just off the top,和刚刚关闭顶部,
958wanna say we're grateful for the service of these pilots想要说,我们感谢 这些飞行员的服务
959and everybody that serves.和所有服务的人。
960I wanted to ask you,我想问你
961the CIA statement said when possible,中情局的声明说,只要有可能,
962they will provide updates and information to the public它们将向公众提供最新资料和信息。
963for transparency,为透明度,
964and I believe that's what we're looking for here.我相信这就是我们要找的
965Do you commit to share你承诺分享
966the Defense Intelligence Agency report when it is ready防卫情报局报告情况
967so the American people can understand more这样美国人民就能理解更多
968about the intelligence assessment?关于情报评估?
969Well, actually, the report that was discussed,事实上,我们讨论过的报告
970this preliminary report,本初步报告,
971was what's called a restrike report.就是所谓的重新打击报告。
972So it comes to us to give us an assessment所以我们来评估一下
973whether a target would need to be restruck, right?目标是否需要休息,对不对?
974That's the reason why.故说.
975So it's based on internal feedback loop所以它是基于内部反馈循环
976that we're supposed to have access to.我们应该能接触到的
977Unfortunately, someone took advantage of that.不幸的是,有人利用了这一点。
978But whatever is supposed to be made public will be,但无论应该公开什么,
979but whatever has to stay sensitive as well.但无论什么都要保持敏感
980Sir, can I just jump in?先生,我可以跳进去吗?
981One of the things that I'm trying to do我试图做的一件事
982through this journey that we're on together,我们一起度过的旅程
983of course, transparency,当然,透明,
984but also the requirement to really protect但也要求真正保护
985these capabilities.这些能力。
986I guess the time's up.我想时间到了
987But so there's a balance in there, right?但里面有平衡 对吧?
988We do need to preserve options我们确实需要保留选择
989should the nation and the joint force be tasked如果国家和联合部队的任务
990to go do something again.去做点什么
991So I'm confident we'll find the middle ground,所以我相信我们会找到中间地带
992but there are some things that if asked,但有些事情,如果问,
993I'd wanna not release related.我不想释放有关的人
994So we're gonna leave it right there.所以我们就把它留在那
995I wanna thank the heroism of our men and women我想感谢我们男女的英雄主义
996in the military.在军队。
997What they accomplished is truly historic.他们的成就是真正历史性的。
998Setting back the Iranian nuclear program,反击伊朗的核计划,
999untold number of years.无量岁月.
1000It was a devastating attack.这是一个毁灭性的攻击。
1001We appreciate you covering it.我们感谢你的报导
1002Thank you very much.谢谢
1003Thank you.谢谢
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