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0:00You guys ready?你们准备好了吗?
0:01Let's just do questions.我们来提问吧
0:02You guys know our ambassador?你们认识我们的大使吗?
0:04Hello, everyone.大家好,你们好
0:05We brought him with us.我们把他带来了
0:05He just started.他刚刚开始。
0:06Now he's staying behind.现在他留下来了
0:08You're in charge.尔时尊者.
0:08Yes.对
0:08Thank you.谢谢
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1You guys ready?你们准备好了吗?
2Let's just do questions.我们来提问吧
3You guys know our ambassador?你们认识我们的大使吗?
4Hello, everyone.大家好,你们好
5We brought him with us.我们把他带来了
6He just started.他刚刚开始。
7Now he's staying behind.现在他留下来了
8You're in charge.尔时尊者.
9Yes.对
10Thank you.谢谢
11He's going to do an awesome job.他会做得很棒的
12Thank you, sir.谢谢你,先生。
13All right.好吧,我们走。
14Let's do it.贡举志五种 上.
15I don't have a statement.我没有声明
16Let's just do it.贡举志五种 上.
17Mr. Secretary, thank you for taking questions.秘书先生,谢谢你的提问
18Diplomacy depends on predictability, reliability, and trust.外交取决于可预测性、可靠性和信任。
19Markets are crashing around the world for the second day in a row.市场连续第二天在全球崩溃.
20The consensus is that the president's tariffs were much higher than expected总统的关税远高于预期
21and based on economic formulas that people do not understand.并且基于人们不明白的经济公式。
22What is your reaction and what is the impact on Europeans?你的反应是什么,对欧洲人的影响是什么?
23You want them to spend more on defense, which they are agreeing to, finally.你希望他们花更多的钱 防御, 他们同意,最后。
24But how can they do that when their economies are crashing and they are now...但是,当他们的经济崩溃,他们现在...
25No, their economies are not crashing.不,他们的经济并没有崩溃。
26The markets are reacting.市场正在作出反应。
27No, their economies are not crashing.不,他们的经济并没有崩溃。
28Their markets are reacting to a dramatic change in the global order in terms of trade.它们的市场正在对全球贸易秩序的急剧变化作出反应。
29And so what happens is pretty straightforward.因此,会发生什么是相当直接的。
30If you're a company and you make a bunch of your products in China如果你是一家公司 在中国做一堆产品
31and all of a sudden shareholders or people that play the stock market突然间 股市的股东或人
32realize that it's going to cost a lot more to produce in China,意识到在中国生产成本会高得多
33your stock is going to go down.你的股票会跌的
34But ultimately, the markets, as long as they know what the rules are going to be moving forward但归根结底,市场, 只要他们知道什么 规则要前进
35and as long as that's set and you can sustain where you're going to be,只要你能维持你将要存在的地方
36the markets will adjust.市场会调整。
37Businesses around the world, including in trade and global trade,世界各地的企业,包括贸易和全球贸易,
38they just need to know what the rules are.他们只需要知道规则是什么
39Once they know what the rules are, they will adjust to those rules.一旦他们知道规则是什么,他们将适应这些规则。
40So I don't think it's fair to say economies are crashing.所以我觉得说经济正在崩溃是不公平的。
41Markets are crashing because markets are based on the stock value of companies市场正在崩溃,因为市场基于公司的股票价值
42who today are embedded in modes of production that are bad for the United States.他们今天被植根于对美国不利的生产模式中。
43We have to be a country that thinks we're the largest consumer market in the world我们必须是一个认为 我们是世界上最大的消费市场的国家
44and yet the only thing we export is services.但我们唯一出口的是服务
45And we need to stop that.我们需要停止这一点。
46We need to get back to a time when we're a country that can make things.我们需要回到一个能够制造事物的国家。
47And to do that, we have to reset the global order of trade.为此,我们必须重新建立全球贸易秩序。
48Well, the worst thing is to leave it the way it is forever.最糟糕的就是永远保持原样
49I mean, this just can't continue.我的意思是,这只是不能继续。
50We can't continue to be a country that doesn't make things.我们不能继续成为一个不造物的国家.
51We have to be able to make things to provide jobs for Americans.我们必须能为美国人提供工作
52That's it.就这样
53It's that simple.就这么简单
54China, as an example, I mean, it's outrageous.中国,作为一个例子,我的意思是,这是令人发指的.
55I mean, they don't consume anything.我的意思是,他们不消耗任何东西。
56All they do is export and flood and distort markets他们所做的只是出口和洪水 扭曲市场
57in addition to all the tariffs and barriers they put in place.除了它们规定的所有关税和壁垒之外。
58So the president rightly has concluded that the current status of global trade因此,总统正确地认为,全球贸易的现状
59is bad for America and good for a bunch of other people.对美国不利,对其他人也好
60And he's going to reset it.则复置之.
61And he's absolutely right to do it.他绝对是对的
62Let me ask you about also the predictability of relationships with allies.让我问你一下与盟友的关系的可预测性。
63The prime minister of Greenland, excuse me, the prime minister of Denmark,格陵兰首相,抱歉,丹麦首相
64which at this point owns Greenland.这时,格陵兰拥有。
65So Denmark, a NATO ally, is saying that it's unacceptable北约盟友丹麦说这是不可接受的
66that one country cannot annex another country.一国不能吞并另一国。
67Well, no one's annexed anything.没人会吞噬任何东西
68It's going to be up to Greenlanders.由格陵兰人决定.
69The vice president made that clear.副总统说得很清楚
70He's going to respect the self-determination of Greenlanders.他将尊重格陵兰人的自决.
71So at some point, the Greenlanders have made clear所以,在某个时候,格陵兰人已经表明
72that they want to be independent of Denmark.他们希望独立于丹麦。
73So Denmark should focus on the fact that the Greenlanders因此,丹麦应当关注格陵兰人
74don't want to be a part of Denmark.不想成为丹麦的一部分。
75That's what they should focus on.这就是他们应该关注的。
76We didn't give them that idea.我们没有给他们这个想法。
77They've been talking about that for a long time.他们已经谈论了很久了
78Whenever they make that decision, they'll make that decision.每当他们做出这个决定,他们就会做出那个决定.
79And then what we're not going to do is let China come in now然后我们不做的就是让中国现在进来
80and offer them a bunch of money and become dependent on China.并给他们一大笔钱 并成为依赖中国。
81The president said he would not rule out using military force总统说他不会排除动用军事力量
82against Denmark, a NATO ally.对抗丹麦,北约盟友。
83No, he said he would not rule out anything if Greenland is encroached upon不,他说如果格陵兰被侵占 他不会排除任何东西
84by a foreign power like a China or Russia or anybody else.被外国强国如中国、俄罗斯或其他人所控制
85But it doesn't matter because Greenlanders are going to make a decision.但这并不重要,因为格陵兰人将要作出决定.
86They're the ones that want to get away from Denmark.他们是想离开丹麦的人
87They're the ones that want to be independent.即欲独立者.
88Not us.不是我们
89We didn't come up with that idea.我们没有想到这个想法。
90They did.没错
91And if they make that decision,如果他们做出这个决定,
92then the United States would stand ready potentially to step in and say,然后美国将随时准备介入并说,
93okay, we can create a partnership with you.好,我们可以和你合作
94We're not at that stage.我们还没到那个阶段
95But that's what the vice president made clear last week in his visit there.但这是副总统上周在访问那里时所阐明的.
96His statement was abundantly clear,他的发言是明确的,
97that we will respect the self-determination of the people of Greenland.我们将尊重格陵兰人民的自决。
98People of Greenland.格陵兰人民.
99And they're the ones that want to leave Denmark.他们就是想离开丹麦的人
100That wasn't our idea.这不是我们的主意。
101All right.好吧,我们走。
102Well, second question here, a committee from Washington Post.第二个问题,华盛顿邮报的委员会
103Mr. Secretary, I'd like to ask you about the Russia-Ukraine negotiations.秘书先生,我想问你 关于俄罗斯和乌克兰的谈判。
104Can you tell us about the American assessment of the conditions你能告诉我们美国对条件的评估吗?
105that Russia put forward regarding the Black Sea ceasefire talks?俄罗斯就黑海停火会谈提出的声明?
106And also, the British and French foreign ministers said this morning还有,英法两国外长今早说
107that Putin was dragging his feet.普京在拖他的脚。
108Do you agree with that?你同意吗?
109Maybe.也许
110He might be.也许吧
111We don't know yet.我们还不知道
112We're going to find out fairly soon.我们会很快发现的
113I mean, look, here's what the president wanted to do.我的意思是,你看, 这是总统想做的。
114He wants to end this war.他想结束这场战争
115And he wanted to test it very early in his administration.他想在他执政的很早就测试一下。
116Is it possible to end this war on terms that are acceptable,能否以可接受的条件结束这场战争,
117obviously, to both sides?显然,双方?
118Because you can't end a war unless both sides agree.因为你不能结束战争 除非双方同意
119And that's what we're in the process of finding out.这也是我们正在寻找答案的过程。
120We will know soon enough, in a matter of weeks, not months,我们很快就会知道,在几周内,而不是几个月之内
121whether Russia is serious about peace or not.俄罗斯是否认真对待和平。
122I hope they are.我希望他们就是
123It would be good for the world if that war ended.如果战争结束,对世界有好处。
124But obviously, we have to test that proposition.但显然,我们必须检验这个提议。
125So we're working through that process.因此,我们正在通过这一过程。
126We had a visitor that Mr. Carillo was here this week,我们有一个访客 Carillo先生 这周在这里,
127had a chance to sit down with him.有机会和他坐下来
128He met with others.他和其他人见面了。
129He'll take some messages back.他会带一些信息回来。
130And the message is the United States needs to know美国需要知道
131whether you're serious or not about peace.无论你是否认真对待和平
132Ultimately, Putin will have to make that decision.普京最终必须作出这一决定。
133The Russian Federation will have to make that decision.俄罗斯联邦必须作出这一决定。
134I think the Ukrainians have shown a willingness to enter,我认为乌克兰人已经表示愿意进入,
135for example, into a complete ceasefire例如,实现全面停火
136to create space for negotiation.为谈判创造空间。
137At some point here, fairly soon, not six months from now,在某个时候, 很快, 不是六个月以后,
138the Russians and Putin will have to make a decision俄国人和普京必须作出决定
139about whether they're serious or peace or not.问他们是不是认真的 还是和平的
140And I hope they are serious.我希望他们是认真的。
141It would be good for the world if that war ended.如果战争结束,对世界有好处。
142What is your assessment of the Russian conditions你对俄罗斯的情况有何评价?
143that were put forward?被提出?
144And also, Dmitriyov said following his talks还有 德米特里约夫说
145with Mr. Witkoff yesterday that the U.S.昨天和Witkoff先生说美国
146and Russia might resume direct flights俄罗斯可能恢复直飞
147as maybe a confidence-building measure.也许是建立信任措施。
148Do you support that?你支持吗?
149I haven't heard anything about direct flights.我还没听说过直飞飞机的事
150I can tell you.我可以告诉你。
151But I don't know who's going to fly in it但我不知道谁会飞进去
152because all these people are sanctioned.因为这些人都是被制裁的
153But I would just tell you that the thing I would point to you但我会告诉你 我指给你的东西
154is this.这是这个。
155We're going to wait and see.'等.
156The Russians know our position in terms of wanting俄国人知道我们的立场
157to end the war.结束战争
158And we will know from their answers very soon我们很快就会从他们的答案中得知
159whether they are serious about proceeding with real peace他们是否认真对待真正的和平
160or whether there's a delay tactic.或是否有延迟战术。
161If it's a delay tactic, the president's not interested in that.如果这是拖延战术,总统对此不感兴趣.
162If this is dragging things out,如果这是拖着东西出去,
163President Trump's not going to fall into the trap川普总统不会掉进陷阱
164of endless negotiations about negotiations.关于谈判的无休止的谈判。
165We won't know soon enough whether or not我们不会很快知道是否
166Russia's serious about peace.俄罗斯认真对待和平.
167If they are, that'll be great.如果是的话 那就太好了
168Then we can move towards peace.然后我们可以走向和平。
169If they're not, then we'll have to reevaluate where we stand如果不是,那我们就得重新评价我们的立场
170and what we do moving forward about it.以及我们在这方面所做的一切。
171But we'll be in no different a position than we are today但是我们的地位和今天一样
172or we were when he took office.或者他上任时我们是
173He wanted to know early in his administration,他想早点知道
174is peace possible?和平是可能的吗?
175Attesting to see if the Russians are interested in peace.试问俄国人是否对和平感兴趣.
176Their actions, not their words,他们的行动,而不是他们的话,
177their actions will determine whether they're serious or not.他们的行动会决定他们是否认真
178And we intend to find that out sooner rather than later.我们打算早早发现这一点。
179And what about their conditions?那他们的情况呢?
180Which conditions?什么条件?
181They put forward additional conditions他们提出了额外条件
182after you had the Plexi season.普莱西赛季之后
183Yeah, so again, I mean, this is part of the back and forth是啊,所以再次,我的意思是, 这是一部分 前后
184of these sorts of things.这些东西。
185I've had phone calls with foreign leaders,我和外国领导人打过电话
186and then I read the readout, and it's like,然后我读了读本,它就像,
187oh, we said no, you never, they came,哦,我们说不,你从来没有, 他们来了,
188they said something to me they never said.他们对我说了些他们没说过的话
189I guess that's part of the game in this place or whatever.我猜这是游戏的一部分 在这个地方或什么的。
190But look, I don't, bottom line is, to me,但听着,我不这么认为, 对我来说,
191at the end of the day, what's going to matter here最终,这里有什么关系
192is whether we're going to move towards peace or not.我们是否要走向和平?
193If peace is real, we will know soon enough.如果和平是真实的,我们很快就会知道。
194If they're not interested in peace, we will know soon enough.如果他们对和平不感兴趣 我们很快就会知道
195And we'll make decisions on the basis, I hope they are real.并且我们会做决定的基础, 我希望它们是真实的。
196There are some promising signs, there are some troubling signs.有一些有希望的迹象,有些令人不安的迹象。
197It's not going to be easy.岂能易乎.
198No one ever said this would be easy.没人说过这很容易
199But we're going to find out sooner rather than later.但我们迟早会发现的
200And let's just say I'm hopeful.不如说我很有希望
201I remain hopeful.我仍然抱有希望。
202I need to be hopeful that peace is possible我需要希望和平能够实现
203and that the Russians are serious about peace.俄国人认真对待和平
204We want them to be serious about peace.我们希望他们认真对待和平。
205And hopefully they are.但愿他们是。
206But we'll know sooner rather than later.但我们迟早会知道的
207Daphne Reuters.达芙妮路透社.
208Hi, sorry, I'm back here.嗨,对不起,我回来了。
209The Russians Reuters?俄罗斯路透社?
210That would be sold out.那会卖光的
211That's pretty cool, isn't it?这很酷,不是吗?
212Go ahead.来吧。
213On the 5% defense spending target,关于5%的国防开支目标,
214have you received pushback to this idea你是否接受了这个想法
215while you've been here this week?这周你来这干嘛?
216And you mentioned yesterday up to 5% was your language.你昨天提到有5%是您的语言
217What do you mean by up to 5%?什么叫高达5%?
218Well, I said up to a path of getting up to 5% at some point.好吧,我说到一个路径 在某个时候达到5%。
219I'm not saying overnight, but to get to that point,我不是说一夜之间, 但到这一点,
220we think that's what NATO allies need to be spending for NATO我们认为这就是北约盟国 需要花费给北约
221to face the threats that itself has identified and articulated.面对自身已经确定和表达的威胁。
222Here's the good news.这是好消息。
223The good news is everyone generally,好消息是,大家总的说,
224with a couple exceptions,除了两个例外,
225are spending more on defense today今天花更多的钱防御
226than they were three, four, five years ago.比他们三、四、五年前还要多
227That's positive.这是积极的。
228That trend needs to continue.这一趋势需要继续下去。
229So the trend lines are good, but they need to continue.因此,趋势线是好的,但它们需要继续.
230But this is not about spending.但这不是开支问题。
231This is not about money necessarily.这与钱无关
232This is about capability.这是关于能力。
233In order for NATO to be stronger,为了让北约更强大
234it needs partners that are stronger.它需要更强大的伙伴。
235The United States commits a lot to NATO and continues to.美国对北约承诺很多,并将继续这样做。
236We are as involved in NATO today as we have ever been.我们今天同以往一样参与北约。
237And we intend to continue to be.我们打算继续这样做。
238But it has to be a real alliance.但它必须是一个真正的联盟。
239And that means that our alliance partners这意味着我们的联盟伙伴
240have to increase their own capabilities.必须提高自身能力。
241So hopefully two things have led to that.因此,希望有两件事导致了这一点。
242The first is the war in Ukraine I think has woken up第一场是乌克兰战争 我想已经醒了
243a lot of people on the continent about real threats, real war.大陆上很多人 谈论真正的威胁,真正的战争。
244And the other is I think the pressure另一个是我觉得压力
245and the statements of President Trump以及川普总统的声明
246that have been pretty consistent about increasing their spending.在增加支出方面一直相当一致。
247So this whole trajectory of more defense spending因此,这整个轨迹 更多的国防开支
248began I believe back in 2017, 20182017年,2018年开始相信
249under President Trump's first term.在川普总统的第一个任期内
250We want that trend to continue.我们希望这一趋势继续下去。
251And we're hoping when the leaders meet in the Hague我们希望当领导人在海牙见面
252that there'll be further and firmer commitments in that direction.在那方面会有更坚定的承诺
253I think it's beneficial to the alliance.我认为这对同盟有利.
254The stronger our partners in NATO are,我们北约的伙伴越强大
255the more capable our partners in NATO are,我们北约的伙伴越有能力
256the stronger NATO is.北约越强大
257And everybody should be in favor of that.每个人都应该赞成这一点。
258And sorry, just to follow up,对不起,只是后续,
259will you try and get the official target as 5% rather than 2%?你会尝试把官方目标定为5%而不是2%吗?
260And will the U.S. commit to 5%?美国会承诺5%吗?
261Sure, we're heading there now.当然,我们现在就去
262We're going to have to spend more on national security我们要花更多的钱来保护国家安全
263because we have a global footprint.因为我们有全球足迹。
264And that's the point that I think has been made and missed in a lot of places.我认为,这一点在很多地方都已经提出和错过了。
265The United States has Indo-Pacific alliance obligations as well that we've made.美国有印太同盟的义务 也是我们做的
266We are currently involved in opening up the Red Sea我们正参与开放红海
267so that global shipping for everyone,因此,全球航运为每个人,
268including our European partners, can become possible again.包括我们的欧洲伙伴,可以再次成为可能。
269We're engaged in counter-drug and counter-gang interdictions我们正在进行缉毒和反帮派阻截
270in the Western Hemisphere.在西半球。
271There's obviously all sorts of issues going on很明显有各种各样的问题
272in different parts of the world,在世界不同地区,
273including we're concerned about a resurgence of terrorist cells,包括我们担心恐怖组织死灰复燃
274whether it's in Africa or in the Middle East.无论是在非洲还是中东
275So the U.S. has these global obligations.因此美国有这些全球义务.
276And we have China that's undergoing the largest,我们有中国正在经历最大的,
277most expansive peacetime military expansion in history.历史上和平时期最广泛的军事扩张。
278So we need to confront all of these things,所以我们需要面对所有这些事情,
279and we're engaged in all of those things.我们参与其中
280So we're going to have to increase the spending in our country.所以我们要增加我国的开支.
281I think our commitment to NATO isn't just 3-and-something percent spending of GDP.我认为我们对北约的承诺 不只是占GDP的3%和多少。
282It's sustained over an extraordinary period of time, and that continues.它持续了一段不寻常的时期,而这一时期仍在继续.
283So, look, I think our partners know they need to do more.所以,你看,我想我们的合作伙伴知道 他们需要做更多的。
284They've all indicated they want to do more.他们都表示想做更多
285They've begun to do more, and that trend needs to continue.他们已经开始做更多的工作,这一趋势需要继续.
286Mr. Secretary, you mentioned that you met with Kirill Dmitriev as well.部长先生,你提到你也见过基里尔·德米特里耶夫
287In order to stop them from dragging their feet and dragging this on,为了阻止他们拖着脚 拖着这个
288is there anything that you said – perhaps not threats,你所说的话,或许不是威胁,
289but is there anything that you said you wanted to see concretely from the Russian side in order to –但你说想从俄罗斯方面看到什么 是为了...
290Yes, peace.是的,平静。
291We want to see peace.我们希望看到和平。
292But specifics in terms of getting to this ceasefire first and then the negotiations later?但具体内容是先实现停火,然后再进行谈判?
293I mean, peace means you stop shooting at each other.我的意思是,和平意味着你们停止互相射击。
294I mean, it's as simplistic as that.我的意思是,它是如此的简单。
295Now, obviously, look, there are all kinds of conditions for a final peace,现在,很明显,你看, 各种条件 最终和平,
296and you have to work with both sides.你必须和双方合作
297And I've said from the beginning, the only way a war ends is in a negotiated settlement.我从一开始就说,战争结束的唯一办法就是通过谈判解决问题。
298If it's not an unconditional surrender, then it is both sides make concessions.如果这不是无条件的投降,那么双方都会做出让步.
299We're not going to prejudge what those concessions are,我们不会预先判断这些让步是什么
300because those concessions will depend on what Ukraine will accept and Russia will accept.因为这些让步将取决于乌克兰将接受什么,俄罗斯将接受什么。
301But we have to make concrete steps towards peace.但是,我们必须为实现和平采取具体步骤。
302What we're not interested in – and I'm not accusing them of this.我们不感兴趣的事——我没有指责他们这样做.
303I'm just telling you what we're not interested in is negotiations about negotiations.我只是告诉你我们不感兴趣的是关于谈判的谈判.
304We're not going to continue this forever.我们不会永远继续下去。
305So none of it was threatening.所以没有威胁。
306I think it was more an explanation of this is our timeline,我觉得这更能解释我们的时间
307and at some point it will be clear whether you want peace or you don't want peace.在某些时候,你究竟想要和平,还是不要和平,是显而易见的。
308And that time is coming.时间到了
309It's pretty short.相当短。
310At the same time as you now have seen, members of Congress have begun to file bills to increase sanctions.在你们现在所看到的同时,国会议员们也开始提出议案来增加制裁.
311So there is going to be growing pressure from Capitol Hill to impose sanctions国会山的压力越来越大 要求制裁
312that we're not going to be able to stop if, in fact, we're not making progress towards peace.如果我们在和平方面没有进展,我们就无法停止。
313All these factors have been explained in the nicest way possible.所有这些因素都得到了尽可能好的解释。
314Hopefully he'll take that message back to Moscow and it will make clear that we need to begin to see real progress,希望他能把信息带回莫斯科 并表明我们需要看到真正的进步
315or we'll have to conclude that they're not interested in peace.否则我们不得不断定 他们对和平不感兴趣
316But let's hope they are, because I think it will be better for everyone.但愿如此,因为我想这对每个人都好。
317Are more talks planned?计划进行更多的会谈吗?
318Well, we need to hear an answer to this.我们得听听答案
319I mean, talks are only – we're going to have talks as long as talks are about something.我的意思是,谈只是——只要谈一些事情,我们就要谈。
320They can't be talks about talks.他们不能谈论谈话。
321At the end, I think initially it was important to talk because we hadn't talked to them in a long time.最后,我认为最初必须谈谈,因为我们很久没有与他们谈过。
322But now we've reached the stage where we need to make progress.但现在我们已经到了需要进步的阶段.
323And if we're not making progress towards peace, then we have a set of factors that we have to take into account.如果我们在和平方面没有取得进步,那么我们有一系列的因素,我们必须加以考虑.
324But hopefully we are going to make progress towards peace.但愿我们将朝着和平取得进展。
325I remain optimistic that we can.我仍然乐观地认为我们能够做到这一点。
326It'll be hard, it'll be difficult, but I'm optimistic that it can.这会很困难,会很困难,但我乐观地认为它可以.
327Mr. Secretary, the Myanmar earthquake, I mean, normally in these kinds of events,秘书先生,缅甸地震,我的意思是, 通常在这类事件中,
328you would have up to 200 Americans with sniffer dogs, special equipment, experts in the field, saving lives on the ground.你会有多达200个美国人 有嗅探犬, 特殊设备, 专家在现场, 拯救生命的地面。
329This has not happened because of the dismantling of U.S. –因为美国解体了,
330Well, that and the fact that it's run by a military junta that doesn't like us.以及它是由一个不喜欢我们的军政府管理的事实
331So it's hard for us to move around in the country.因此我们很难在乡下移动.
332Related by the states, these events are always not political.与各州相关的是,这些事件并不总是政治性的。
333They went into Syria, for example, in the Turkish-Syria earthquake.例如在土耳其-叙利亚地震中,他们进入叙利亚。
334So they can't accept –所以他们不能接受...
335Well, we're not the government of the world.我们不是世界政府
336No, we will provide humanitarian assistance, just like everybody else does, and we will do it the best we can.不,我们将提供人道主义援助,就像其他人一样,我们将尽我们所能。
337But we also have other needs we have to balance that against.但是,我们还有其他需要,我们必须平衡这一点。
338We're not walking away from humanitarian assistance.我们不会放弃人道主义援助。
339But again, I go back, there's a lot of other rich countries in the world.但是,我又回去了,世界上还有其他许多富国.
340They should all be pitching in.他们应该都投进去。
341We're going to do our part.我们要尽自己的一份力量
342We already have people there.我们已经有人在那里。
343We'll have more people there.我们会有更多的人在那里。
344We'll help as much as we can.我们会尽力帮助你
345It's not the easiest place to work.这不是最容易工作的地方。
346They have a military junta that doesn't like us, doesn't necessarily allow us to operate in that country the way we want it to.他们有一个军政府,不喜欢我们, 并不一定允许我们在那个国家运作 以我们希望的方式。
347That would have impeded our response no matter what.这将阻碍我们的反应,无论怎样。
348That said, we are willing to continue to help in the humanitarian crisis.尽管如此,我们愿意继续在人道主义危机中提供帮助。
349Other countries need to do so as well.其他国家也需要这样做。
350China is a very rich country.中国是一个非常富裕的国家.
351India is a rich country.印度是一个富国。
352There are a lot of other countries in the world, and everyone should pitch in.世界上有很多其他国家,每个人都应该参与进来。
353I don't think it's fair to assume that the United States needs to continue to share the burden 60, 70 percent of humanitarian aid around the world.我认为,假设美国需要继续分担全世界人道主义援助的60%,70%的负担是不公平的.
354We will be in the business of humanitarian aid.我们将从事人道主义援助工作。
355But we have other priorities as well that are national interest priorities of the United States.但我们还有其他优先事项,也是美国的国家利益优先事项。
356And we're going to align all those to be properly balanced.我们将调整所有那些 适当平衡。
357I mean, all of the experts in this have several reasons.所有专家都有几个原因
358It's not that the politics of Myanmar, but it's because of the dismantling of USA.这并不是缅甸的政治,而是因为美国解体.
359You simply couldn't deploy.你根本无法部署
360Yeah, I don't listen to these so-called experts.是啊,我不听 这些所谓的专家。
361These are so-called experts.这些是所谓的专家。
362These are people that are part of that NGO industrial complex.这些人是非政府组织工业综合体的一部分。
363These are people that make millions and hundreds of millions of dollars in these NGOs all over the world that stand up and they get flooded with US taxpayer money.这些人在世界各地的这些非政府组织中赚了数百万和数亿美元,他们站起来,他们被美国纳税人的钱淹没。
364And then we have to spend $100 million to get $10 million to people.然后我们必须花1亿美元 才能给人们带来1000万美元
365We're not doing that anymore.我们不这样做了。
366OK, we have stopped.好了,我们已经停下来了。
367We are no longer going to spend $100 million to get $10 million to recipients.我们不再花费1亿美元为接受者争取1 000万美元。
368We're not going to fund these global NGOs all over the world that are living off of this.我们不会资助这些全球性的非政府组织 全世界都靠这个生活。
369We're not doing it.我们不这样做。
370We are prepared to help and work with governments and appropriate NGOs on the ground that are delivering assistance.我们准备在实地提供帮助的政府和适当的非政府组织合作。
371We will be there and we will be helpful.我们将在那里,我们将提供帮助。
372There are a lot of other rich countries.其他富国也不少.
373They should also pitch in and help.他们也应该介入并提供帮助。
374And some of them are and some of them are not.有些是,有些不是。
375But we are going to do our part.但我们将尽自己的一份力量。
376We're going to continue to do our part.我们将继续尽自己的一份力量。
377But it's going to be balanced with all of the other interests we have as a country.但它将与我们作为一个国家的所有其他利益保持平衡.
378We are not a nation.我们不是一个国家。
379We are the richest country in the world.我们是世界上最富有的国家。
380But our resources are not unlimited.但我们的资源并不是无限的。
381They are not unlimited.它们不是无限的。
382And we have a massive national debt and we have many other priorities as well.我们有大量的国家债务,我们还有许多其他优先事项。
383And it's time to recalibrate all of that.现在是时候重新校正这一切。
384So we'll be there.所以我们会在那里。
385We'll be helpful as much as we can.我们会尽力提供帮助
386We've got other things we have to take care of as well.我们还有别的事要处理
387But we care deeply about what's happened there.但我们很关心那里发生的事
388Mr. Secretary, the Middle East was part of your discussion here in NATO,国务卿先生,中东是你们在北约讨论的一部分,
389especially that you find support from members toward your policy of airstrikes and Houthis and your maximum pressure policy toward Iran.特别是你得到成员们的支持 支持你的空袭和胡塞政策 以及你对伊朗的最大压力政策。
390Yeah, I mean, on the Houthis, everybody wants to get their ships through the Red Sea.是啊,我的意思是,在胡塞河上, 每个人都想让自己的船 通过红海。
391We're the only ones doing anything about it.我们是唯一在做任何事的人
392But everyone wants to, you know, get their ships through there.但每个人都想,你知道, 让他们的船通过那里。
393As I said, we've done the world a great favor by taking on this band of criminals who have unfortunately sophisticated weaponry that they can use to –正如我所说,我们为世界做了一个伟大的忙,把这群罪犯带走,他们不幸拥有先进的武器,可以用来——
394I mean, they've attacked 150, 160 merchant vessels, 174 times they've attacked the United States Navy.他们攻击了150,160艘商船 174次攻击美国海军
395So I think the world should be grateful to the United States for being involved in this and doing this.因此,我认为世界应该感谢美国参与此事并这样做.
396Everyone thanks us for it.大家都感谢我们。
397I understand these nations have limited capabilities despite being very rich countries.我知道这些国家尽管非常富有,但能力有限。
398Nobody else can project power there and do this.没有人能在那里投放电力 并做到这一点。
399But that said, we think that mission is going to bear fruit, and it's necessary.但是,尽管如此,我们认为这个任务将会结出硕果,这是必要的.
400We can't have a band of criminals controlling that.我们不能让一群罪犯控制这个
401In the case of Iran, I don't know of any country in the world that's excited about Iran ever having a nuclear weapons capability.就伊朗而言,我不知道世界上有哪个国家对伊朗拥有核武器能力感到兴奋.
402Some are more forceful about it than others.有些人对此比其他人更强烈。
403We've had talks about that.我们已经谈过了。
404As you know, the President would like to figure out what's going to happen there.如你所知,总统想弄清楚那里会发生什么.
405But he's also made it clear that there's not going to be a nuclear-armed Iran that's not going to happen under his watch.但他也明确表示,在他监视下不会出现核武装的伊朗.
406Mr. Secretary, what's your message to foreign citizens who may be afraid to come to the United States部长先生,你给那些 不敢来美国的外国公民的信息是什么?
407because they're concerned about potentially being detained over some minor administrative error因为他们担心可能会因为一些小行政错误而被拘留
408because they might have something on their phone like criticism of the President or the Israel-Gaza conflict,因为他们的电话里可能有些东西 比如批评总统或以色列-加沙冲突
409and they don't want to come into the United States now?他们现在不想来美国?
410No, first of all, people that have their phones looked at and so forth,不,首先,有人 他们的手机看等等,
411and you'll have to all refer you to the CBP that goes through their processes.你们得向CBP报告 他们的流程
412But generally, it's people that have been flagged coming in for a reason.但总的来说,人们被标记进来是有原因的。
413I would say that if you're not coming to the United States to join a Hamas protest我会说,如果你不来美国 加入哈马斯的抗议
414or to come here and tell us about how right Hamas is或者来这里告诉我们哈马斯是多么正确
415or to tell us about, you know, stir up conflict on our campuses或者告诉我们,你知道, 挑起我们校园的冲突
416and create riots in our street and vandalize our universities,在街道上制造骚乱 破坏我们的大学
417then you have nothing to worry about.那你没什么好担心的
418But thousands, thousands and thousands of people come into the U.S. every single day.但每天有上千,上千人来到美国.
419They conduct business, to travel, to do all sorts of visit relatives.他们做生意,旅行, 做各种探亲。
420It happens every day.每天都这样
421It's a very common place, and nobody has a problem.这是一个非常常见的地方, 没有人有问题。
422I mean, if you're coming here to create problems, you're probably going to have a problem,我的意思是,如果你来这里制造问题, 你可能会有一个问题,
423and I think that's a good thing.我觉得这是件好事
424If you're coming here to create problems, not here, the United States,如果你来这里制造麻烦 而不是美国
425you're probably going to have a problem, yeah.你可能会有一个问题,是的。
426We're not going to continue to be stupid enough to let people into our country我们不会继续愚蠢到让别人进入我们的国家
427who are coming here to tear things up.他们来这是为了拆东西
428Not going to happen.不会的
429Mr. Secretary, have the Russians done anything concrete to make you encourage部长先生,俄国人有没有做任何具体的事来鼓励你
430that they are truly interested in peace?他们真的对和平感兴趣吗?
431And when you talk about timeline, I know you're not going to give a specific timeline,当你谈论时间表, 我知道你不会给出一个具体的时间表,
432but are you talking weeks, are you talking months?但你是说数周,你是说数月?
433I think we're talking weeks, probably, yeah.我想我们是在谈论 几个星期,也许,是的。
434I mean, you know, there's a lot that needs to happen here in the next few weeks我的意思是,你知道, 有很多事情需要在这里 在接下来的几周
435in order for this to be real.为了让这件事变得真实
436In terms of concrete, I think they've agreed to certain things.在具体方面,我认为他们已经同意某些事情.
437I mean, I think there are things that are not striking now that they were before.我的意思是,我认为有些事情 现在不是惊人的, 因为它们以前。
438Obviously, both sides claim that the ceasefire is being violated显然,双方声称停火遭到违反
439as typical ceasefires like this.作为典型的停火 像这样。
440But that said, not concrete in terms of are we closer to peace?但尽管如此,就我们是否更接近和平而言,并不具体?
441We're closer to peace simply because we're talking to both sides,我们更接近和平 只是因为我们在和双方交谈
442but we're not closer to peace because we have a deal on our hands to end this conflict.但我们没有更接近和平 因为我们有协议结束这场冲突
443But we're going to know soon enough.但我们很快就会知道
444That's my point I make everybody.这就是我的观点,我让每个人。
445You know, people come, oh, well, Putin, you can't trust him.你知道,人们来, 哦,好吧,普京, 你不能相信他。
446It's not about trusting Putin, not about trusting anybody.这不是信任普京,也不是信任任何人。
447This is about actions.这是关于行动。
448If you're interested in peace, you stop fighting,如果你对和平感兴趣,你就停止战斗
449and you lay out the conditions by which you're willing to end a war,你阐述了你愿意结束战争的条件,
450and they have to be reasonable conditions, right, not crazy stuff.他们必须是合理的条件,对,不是疯狂的东西。
451If you're interested in peace, that's what you do.若有志于安乐即是业.
452If you're not interested in peace, then you sort of drag it out如果你对和平不感兴趣,那你就把它拖出来
453and you come up with excuses and you pull it, and we know that,你提出一些借口,你拉它, 我们知道,
454and we're not going to get pulled into that.我们不会被拉进去的
455But let's hope it doesn't come to that.但愿不至于此.
456Let's hope it, you know, let's be optimistic that that's not the direction we're going.让我们希望,你知道, 让我们乐观地说,这不是我们要去的方向。
457We're prepared if it is, but let's hope that we're not heading in the direction如果有的话,我们准备好了 但愿我们没有朝这个方向走
458of this is just a delayed tactic.这仅仅是一个延迟战术。
459All right, one more, and then we wrap up.好吧,再来一次,然后我们结束。
460Don't you guys want to go home?你们不想回家吗?
461The ones that can't?那些不能吗?
462The allies here in Ukraine, they believe that Russia is actually prepared在乌克兰的盟国, 他们相信,俄罗斯实际上已经准备好
463to launch another campaign, a military campaign, as soon as the winter season ends.发动另一场战役, 一场军事战役, 一旦冬季结束。
464Do you have any reason to doubt that?你有理由怀疑吗?
465That they're going to do what?他们要做什么?
466I'm sorry?你说什么?
467Russia said they are preparing to start another military campaign.俄罗斯说,他们准备再次发动军事行动。
468Well, then, well, now they're not interested in peace?那么 他们现在对和平不感兴趣了?
469And at this very moment, they're targeting a major fight.而此时此刻,他们正瞄准一场重大战斗.
470Targeting what?目标什么?
471A major fight in Ukraine.乌克兰大战.
472Well, again, I get that that means they're violating the ceasefire.再说一遍,我知道这意味着他们违反了停火协议
473That's not a good sign, you know, but I think that would tell you this,这不是一个好兆头,你知道, 但我想那会告诉你这一点,
474that ultimately this is a war right now.最终,这是一场战争 现在。
475Things are going to be blowing up in Ukraine and inside of Russia在乌克兰和俄罗斯内部 事情会爆炸
476because there's still a war going on.因为战争还在继续
477That's what we're trying to end.这就是我们要结束的
478If we have a true ceasefire, which is what we wanted, a complete ceasefire,如果我们有真正的停火,这就是我们想要的,完全停火,
479nothing should be blowing up.没有什么应该爆炸。
480But the Russians didn't agree to that.但俄国人不同意这一点.
481They wanted a partial.他们想要一个部分。
482And then obviously when you get into these partials,很明显,当你进入这些部分,
483that's one of the reasons why we didn't push for a partial.这也是为什么我们没有 推动部分。
484We'll take it because it's better than nothing.以是因缘胜于无.
485But one of the reasons why we didn't push for a partial,但其中的一个原因 我们没有推动一个部分,
486because there's always disputes about what are you hitting因为总是有争议 你打什么
487or what you're not hitting.或者你没打到的东西
488But in the end, this is still a war and we want it to stop.但最终,这仍然是一场战争,我们希望它停止.
489The fact that religious sites are being hit or energy sites are being hit宗教场所遭到袭击或能源场所遭到袭击
490or civilian sites are being hit, that's why war is a bad thing.或平民场地被击中, 这就是为什么战争是坏事。
491And that's why the president wants to end it.所以总统想结束这一切
492As far as conducting another campaign, well, then that'll be a very clear sign.就进行另一场竞选来说 那会是一个非常明确的迹象
493If all of a sudden we wake up tomorrow and the Russians are launching如果突然我们明天醒来 俄国人就要出发了
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495they're not interested in peace.他们对和平不感兴趣。
496That hasn't happened yet.这还没有发生。
497Let's hope it doesn't happen.惟愿不现.
498We want to know whether they want to do peace or not.我们想知道他们是否想要和平。
499And if they do, then there's a way there and we're willing to help.如果他们这样做,那么有一个方法 在那里,我们愿意帮助。
500If they're not, then it's good to know early如果他们不是,那就早点知道就好了
501so we can adjust our policies accordingly.因此我们可以相应调整政策。
502All right, everybody.好了,大家来
503Thank you so much.非常感谢
504Thank you, guys.谢谢你们
505Thank you.谢谢
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