实战练英文 | CBS美女主播以为捉到马脚,正想一记扣杀,反

实战练英文 | CBS美女主播以为捉到马脚,正想一记扣杀,反遭卢比奥一顿思想教育,伊朗拥有制造武器的一切,妳的问题无关紧要。快哭了 | 美国轰炸伊朗 CBS专访
发布于 2026-01-14 · 时长 15:57字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:00 | Secretary of State and Acting White House National Security Advisor Marco Rubio now | 国务卿兼代理白宫国家安全顾问 马可·鲁比奥 |
| 0:05 | joins us. | 加入我们 |
| 0:06 | Mr. Secretary, I know it has been an intense few hours, but so far it does not appear that | 部长先生,我知道这几个小时很紧张 但到目前为止似乎没有 |
| 0:13 | Iran has yet retaliated against the United States. | 伊朗至今仍对美国进行报复. |
| 0:17 | What intelligence do you have at this point about their capabilities to respond, the intent | 你现在有什么情报 关于他们的反应能力,意图 |
| 0:24 | of their proxies? | 他们的代理人? |
| 0:26 | Is there any kind of command and control structure left to activate them? | 是否有任何类型的指挥和控制结构可以启动它们? |
| 0:32 | Yeah, well, we'll see what Iran decides to do. | 是啊,我们看看伊朗会怎么做 |
| 0:34 | I think they should choose the route of peace. | 我认为他们应该选择和平的道路。 |
| 0:36 | We have been, we've done everything, we have been over backwards, okay, to create a deal | 我们已经,我们已经做了一切, 我们已经倒退,好吗,达成一个协议 |
展开字幕全文(364 条)
| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Secretary of State and Acting White House National Security Advisor Marco Rubio now | 国务卿兼代理白宫国家安全顾问 马可·鲁比奥 |
| 2 | joins us. | 加入我们 |
| 3 | Mr. Secretary, I know it has been an intense few hours, but so far it does not appear that | 部长先生,我知道这几个小时很紧张 但到目前为止似乎没有 |
| 4 | Iran has yet retaliated against the United States. | 伊朗至今仍对美国进行报复. |
| 5 | What intelligence do you have at this point about their capabilities to respond, the intent | 你现在有什么情报 关于他们的反应能力,意图 |
| 6 | of their proxies? | 他们的代理人? |
| 7 | Is there any kind of command and control structure left to activate them? | 是否有任何类型的指挥和控制结构可以启动它们? |
| 8 | Yeah, well, we'll see what Iran decides to do. | 是啊,我们看看伊朗会怎么做 |
| 9 | I think they should choose the route of peace. | 我认为他们应该选择和平的道路。 |
| 10 | We have been, we've done everything, we have been over backwards, okay, to create a deal | 我们已经,我们已经做了一切, 我们已经倒退,好吗,达成一个协议 |
| 11 | with these people. | 与这些人。 |
| 12 | Steve Woodcoff has traveled the world extensively, met with them, well, not even met with them, | 史蒂夫·伍德科夫环游世界 与他们相遇 甚至没有与他们相遇 |
| 13 | met through the Omanis with them and discussed back and forth. | 通过阿曼人与他们会面,并前后讨论。 |
| 14 | We even put an offer to them that they wanted elements of it in writing, and we offered | 我们甚至给了他们一个提议 他们想要它的内容书面, 我们提出 |
| 15 | it to them. | 给他们的 |
| 16 | Very generous offer, by the way. | 顺便说一句,非常慷慨的提议。 |
| 17 | We've done it, and we're prepared right now. | 我们做了,我们准备好了。 |
| 18 | If they call right now and say, we want to meet, let's talk about this, we're prepared | 如果他们现在打电话说,我们想见面,我们谈谈,我们准备好了 |
| 19 | to do that. | 这样做。 |
| 20 | The president's made that clear from the very beginning. | 总统从一开始就说清楚了 |
| 21 | His preference is to deal with this issue diplomatically. | 他倾向于以外交方式处理这一问题。 |
| 22 | But he also told them, we had 60 days to make progress or something else was going to happen. | 但他也告诉他们,我们还有60天的时间要取得进展,否则其他事情就会发生。 |
| 23 | And I think they thought they were dealing with a different kind of leader, like the | 我认为他们认为他们正在对付 另一种领袖,像 |
| 24 | kinds of leaders they've been playing games with for the last 30 or 40 years, and they | 过去30年或40年里 他们一直在玩游戏 |
| 25 | found out that's not the case. | 发现情况并非如此。 |
| 26 | So this mission was a very precise mission. | 所以这个任务是一个非常精确的任务。 |
| 27 | It had three objectives, three nuclear sites. | 它有三个目标,三个核地点。 |
| 28 | It was not an attack on Iran, it was not an attack on the Iranian people. | 这不是对伊朗的攻击,也不是对伊朗人民的攻击。 |
| 29 | This wasn't a regime change move. | 这不是政权更迭的举动。 |
| 30 | This was designed to degrade and or destroy three nuclear sites related to their nuclear | 这是为了降解或摧毁与核有关的三个核场址。 |
| 31 | weaponization ambitions, and that was delivered on yesterday. | 武器化野心,这是昨天实现的。 |
| 32 | What happens next will now depend on what Iran chooses to do next. | 接下来会发生什么,现在将取决于伊朗选择下一步做什么。 |
| 33 | If they choose the path to diplomacy, we're ready. | 如果他们选择外交之路,我们就准备好了. |
| 34 | We can do a deal that's good for them, the Iranian people, and good for the world. | 我们可以做一件对他们,伊朗人民和世界都有利的交易. |
| 35 | If they choose another route, then there'll be consequences for that. | 如果他们选择另一条路线,那就会产生后果. |
| 36 | Let me follow up on a phrase you just worded, weaponization ambitions. | 让我继续你刚才所说的武器化野心的话。 |
| 37 | Are you saying there that the United States did not see intelligence that the Supreme | 你是说美国没有看到最高机密 |
| 38 | Leader had ordered weaponization? | 领导下令武器化? |
| 39 | That's irrelevant. | 这无关紧要 |
| 40 | I see that question being asked on the media. | 我看到媒体上有人问这个问题。 |
| 41 | That's an irrelevant question. | 这是一个无关紧要的问题。 |
| 42 | They have everything they need to build a weapon. | 他们拥有制造武器所需的一切 |
| 43 | That is the key point in U.S. intelligence assessments. | 这是美国情报评估的关键所在。 |
| 44 | You know that. | 你知道这一点。 |
| 45 | No, it's not. | 不,这不是。 |
| 46 | Yes, it was. | 没错 |
| 47 | No, it's not. | 不,这不是。 |
| 48 | The political decision had not been made. | 尚未作出政治决定。 |
| 49 | Well, I know that better than you know that, and I know that that's not the case. | 我比你更清楚 我知道情况并非如此 |
| 50 | But I'm asking you whether the order was given. | 但我在问你是否下达了命令 |
| 51 | And the people who say that, it doesn't matter if the order was given. | 且言之人,虽有旨令,亦无妨. |
| 52 | They have everything they need to build nuclear weapons. | 他们拥有制造核武器所需的一切。 |
| 53 | Why would you bury, why would you bury things in a mountain 300 feet under the ground? | 你为什么要埋东西,为什么要埋在地下300英尺的山里? |
| 54 | Why would you bury, why do they have 60% enriched uranium? | 你为什么埋藏,为什么他们有60%的浓缩铀? |
| 55 | You don't need 60% enriched uranium. | 你不需要60%的浓缩铀 |
| 56 | The only countries in the world that have uranium at 60% are countries that have nuclear | 世界上只有60%的铀国家是拥有核国家 |
| 57 | weapons because it can quickly make it 90. | 因为它能快速达到90。 |
| 58 | They have all the elements. | 他们有全部的元素。 |
| 59 | They have, why are they, why do they have a space program? | 他们为什么有太空计划? |
| 60 | Is Iran going to go to the moon? | 伊朗会去月球吗? |
| 61 | No, they're trying to build an ICBM so they can one day put a warhead on it. | 不,他们试图建造一个ICBM 这样他们就可以在它上放置弹头。 |
| 62 | That's a question of intent. | 这是一个意图的问题。 |
| 63 | And you know in the intelligence assessment that it was that Iran wanted to be a threshold | 在情报评估中你也知道 伊朗想要成为门槛 |
| 64 | to use this leverage. | 用这个杠杆。 |
| 65 | I'm talking about the public March assessment. | 我指的是公开的三月评估. |
| 66 | And that's why I was asking you if you know something more from March if an order was | 这就是为什么我问你 如果你知道更多 从三月的事情,如果一个命令是 |
| 67 | Well, that's also an inaccurate representation of it. | 嗯,这也是一个不准确的表述。 |
| 68 | That's an inaccurate representation of it. | 这是不准确的表述。 |
| 69 | That's not how intelligence is read. | 智慧不是这样解读的. |
| 70 | That's not how intelligence is used. | 智能不是这么使用的 |
| 71 | Here's what the whole world knows. | 举世皆知如下. |
| 72 | Forget about intelligence. | 忘却智慧. |
| 73 | What the IAEA knows. | 原子能机构所知道的。 |
| 74 | They are enriching uranium well beyond anything you need for a civil nuclear program. | 他们正在浓缩铀 远超出你需要的民用核计划。 |
| 75 | So why would you enrich uranium at 60% if you don't intend to one day use it to take | 所以,为什么你会浓缩铀 60%,如果你不打算 一天使用它采取 |
| 76 | it to 90 and build a weapon? | 它到90 并制造武器? |
| 77 | Why are you developing ICBMs? | 为什么要发展洲际建立信任措施? |
| 78 | Why do you have 8,000 short-range missiles and 2,000 to 3,000 long mid-range missiles | 为什么你有8000枚短程导弹和2000到3000枚长程中程导弹 |
| 79 | that you continue to develop? | 你继续发展? |
| 80 | Why do you do all these things? | 你为什么要做这些事? |
| 81 | Understood. | 明白吗? |
| 82 | They have everything they need for a nuclear weapon. | 他们拥有核武器所需的一切。 |
| 83 | They have the delivery mechanisms. | 他们有交付机制。 |
| 84 | They have the enrichment capability. | 他们有浓缩能力。 |
| 85 | They have the highly enriched uranium that is stored. | 它们拥有储存的高浓缩铀。 |
| 86 | That's all we need to see, especially in the hands of a regime that's already involved | 这就是我们需要看到的, 特别是在一个已经介入的政权手中 |
| 87 | in terrorism and proxies and all kinds of things around. | 在恐怖主义、代理和各种事物中。 |
| 88 | They are the source of all instability in the Middle East. | 它们是中东所有不稳定的根源。 |
| 89 | No one's disputing that. | 没有人反对这一点。 |
| 90 | I'm not doing that here. | 我在这里不这样做。 |
| 91 | And they were censured at the IAEA for that enrichment and for violating their nonproliferation | 原子能机构谴责他们进行浓缩和违反不扩散 |
| 92 | agreements. | 协议。 |
| 93 | I was simply asking if we had intelligence that there was an order to weaponize because | 我只是问我们是否有情报 说有武器化的命令 |
| 94 | you said weaponization ambitions, which implies they weren't doing it. | 你说了武器化的野心 这意味着他们没有这么做 |
| 95 | Well, we have intelligence that they have everything they need to build a nuclear weapon, | 我们有情报说 他们拥有制造核武器所需的一切 |
| 96 | and that's more than enough. | 这已经足够了 |
| 97 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 98 | I want to ask you on the policy front. | 我想问你在政策方面。 |
| 99 | There are personnel throughout the Middle East from the United States and Bahrain and | 中东各地都有来自美国和巴林的人员 |
| 100 | Kuwait and other bases. | 科威特和其他基地。 |
| 101 | If those countries are attacked by Iran because of their association with the United States, | 如果这些国家由于与美国的联系而受到伊朗的攻击, |
| 102 | will the United States defend them? | 美国会保护他们吗? |
| 103 | Well, that's exactly why they're there. | 嗯,这正是为什么他们在那里。 |
| 104 | That's a great point, actually. | 其实,这是个好主意。 |
| 105 | Do you know why we have bases in Bahrain and Qatar and UAE and all these places? | 你知道为什么我们在巴林、卡塔尔、阿联酋和所有这些地方都有基地吗? |
| 106 | All of those bases are there because those countries are afraid that Iran will attack | 所有这些基地都在那里,因为这些国家害怕伊朗进攻 |
| 107 | them. | 他们。 |
| 108 | If Iran was not a threat to the region, if the Iranian regime, because I'm talking about | 如果伊朗不是对该地区的威胁,如果伊朗政权,因为我指的是 |
| 109 | the Iranian people, the regime was not a threat to the region, we wouldn't have to have any | 伊朗人民,政权不是对该地区的威胁,我们不必有任何 |
| 110 | of these bases. | 这些基地。 |
| 111 | Those bases are there because those countries are petrified that the Iranian Shia clerics | 这些基地都在那里,因为那些国家 害怕伊朗什叶派神职人员 |
| 112 | that run that country will attack their countries. | 这个国家会攻击他们的国家 |
| 113 | Will the United States defend them if they are? | 美国会保护他们吗? |
| 114 | As you know, they've got a very difficult history. | 如你所知,他们的历史非常艰难. |
| 115 | Well, that's why we're there. | 嗯,这就是为什么我们在那里。 |
| 116 | That's why we're there. | 故曰众生. |
| 117 | But they'll attack us is what they're threatening to do. | 但是他们会攻击我们 他们威胁要做的事 |
| 118 | So we'll defend our people, obviously. | 因此,我们显然要保卫我们的人民。 |
| 119 | We'll defend our people. | 保卫人民. |
| 120 | Well, they'll attack our bases. | 他们会攻击我们的基地 |
| 121 | And those are our bases. | 这些是我们的基地。 |
| 122 | And we're going to defend our personnel. | 我们要保卫我们的人 |
| 123 | We're prepared to do that. | 我们准备好了 |
| 124 | But we'll do more than just defend. | 但我们会做更多 不只是防御。 |
| 125 | We'll impose costs on Iran if they attack American personnel, whether they do it directly | 如果伊朗攻击美国人员,我们就要付出代价,不管他们直接这样做 |
| 126 | or whether they do it through some of these proxies that they try to hide behind. | 或者他们是否通过一些 试图隐藏在背后的代理人来这样做 |
| 127 | And that includes the Houthis. | 包括胡塞河 |
| 128 | So another proxy of theirs. | 所以他们的另一个代理。 |
| 129 | So let's hope they don't choose that route. | 所以希望他们不要选择这条路线。 |
| 130 | Let's all hope that they actually decide, okay, let's go negotiate, because we want | 让我们都希望他们真正决定, 好吧,让我们去谈判,因为我们想要 |
| 131 | a diplomatic and peaceful solution. | 外交与和平解决。 |
| 132 | We have achieved our objectives. | 我们实现了我们的目标。 |
| 133 | We're ready to negotiate this in a peaceful, diplomatic way. | 我们准备以和平,外交的方式谈判此事. |
| 134 | We've been prepared to do that for days. | 我们已经准备了好几天了 |
| 135 | They are the ones that played games. | 他们才是玩游戏的人 |
| 136 | As they have done for 40 years, as they have done to multiple presidents, they tried to | 正如他们40年来所做的那样,正如他们对多个主席所做的那样,他们试图 |
| 137 | play games with President Trump, and they see what happens. | 和特朗普总统玩游戏, 他们看到发生了什么。 |
| 138 | This is not a game-playing president. | 这不是一个玩游戏的总裁。 |
| 139 | When he says he's going to do something, he will do it. | 当他说要做点什么时,他会做的. |
| 140 | I hear you saying here you want to de-escalate when you are talking about diplomacy. | 我听到你在这里说,你想在谈论外交时缓和局势。 |
| 141 | You are looking for Iran to pick up that offer that was put on the table you mentioned by | 你在找伊朗来接 你提到的桌上的报价 |
| 142 | Steve Wittkopf. | 史蒂夫·维特科普夫. |
| 143 | Can you just clarify, does that mean the U.S. would still allow for Iran to have a civilian | 你能否澄清一下,这是否意味着美国仍然允许伊朗拥有一个平民? |
| 144 | nuclear program if it does not enrich on its own soil? | 如果在自己的土地上不丰富核计划? |
| 145 | But that's never been an issue. | 但这从来都不是一个问题。 |
| 146 | There's countries all over the world that have a civil nuclear program. | 世界各国都有民用核计划. |
| 147 | No one here is saying that Iran can't. | 这里没有人说伊朗不能。 |
| 148 | Sure, that's always been there. | 当然,那是一直存在。 |
| 149 | Any country in the world has a right to have a civil nuclear program. | 世界上任何国家都有权拥有民用核计划。 |
| 150 | What they don't have a right to do is to enrich it at 60%, hide it under a mountain, and develop | 他们没有权利做的是 百分之六十地丰富它 藏在山下 发展 |
| 151 | long-range and short-range and mid-range missiles, and sponsor terrorist proxies all over the | * 远程、短程和中程导弹,并赞助恐怖分子在各地的代理 |
| 152 | world. | 这个世界 |
| 153 | They don't have a right to do that, and that's what they've been doing, and no one's dealt | 他们没有权利这样做, 他们一直在做, 没有人处理 |
| 154 | with it. | 用这个 |
| 155 | And it's continued to linger, and they've played games with multiple presidents and | 他们和多位总统玩过游戏 |
| 156 | multiple countries around the world, and they've gotten away with it for 40-something years. | 世界上有多个国家 都逃了40年了 |
| 157 | This is very simple. | 这很简单。 |
| 158 | The president wants to resolve this diplomatically and peacefully. | 总统希望以外交方式和平解决此事。 |
| 159 | He gave them a chance to do that. | 他给了他们这个机会。 |
| 160 | They delayed, they had all these kind of delayed tactics. | 他们拖延了, 他们有所有这些拖延战术。 |
| 161 | They wouldn't even meet with us directly. | 他们甚至不会直接和我们见面。 |
| 162 | We had to go through third countries. | 我们必须经过第三国。 |
| 163 | This is very simple. | 这很简单。 |
| 164 | Let's meet directly, let's work on agreements that are good for Iran, good for the Iranian | 让我们直接见面,让我们努力达成对伊朗有利的协议,对伊朗人有利的协议 |
| 165 | people in particular, good for the safety and security of the world and the United States. | 特别是为了世界和美国的安全 |
| 166 | That's always been our preference. | 我们一直喜欢这样 |
| 167 | That continues to be our preference. | 这仍然是我们的优先选择。 |
| 168 | But they're the ones that were playing games with us, and these are the consequences. | 但正是他们和我们玩游戏 这些才是后果 |
| 169 | We had to achieve those objectives. | 我们必须实现这些目标。 |
| 170 | We had three objectives yesterday, Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan. | 我们昨天有三个目标 福尔多 纳坦兹和伊斯法罕 |
| 171 | We conducted a brilliant military operation under the command of President Trump, and | 我们在特朗普总统的指挥下进行了一次辉煌的军事行动, |
| 172 | obviously great credit to Secretary Hexseth and General Corilla and General Kaine and | 显然,赫克斯塞特秘书和科里拉将军以及凯恩将军和 |
| 173 | all of our, all the airmen and the phenomenal people in the U.S. military. | 我们所有的,所有的飞行员 和令人惊叹的美国军人。 |
| 174 | No other military in the world could have done this. | 世界上没有其他军队能做到这一点。 |
| 175 | No, it was astounding. | 不,这是惊人的。 |
| 176 | We've achieved those objectives. | 我们已经实现了这些目标。 |
| 177 | What happens next is up to the regime. | 接下来会发生的是政权。 |
| 178 | The regime wants peace. | 政权希望和平。 |
| 179 | We're ready for peace. | 我们准备好要和平了 |
| 180 | They want to do something else. | 他们想做别的事 |
| 181 | They're incredibly vulnerable. | 他们非常脆弱。 |
| 182 | They can't even protect their own airspace. | 他们甚至无法保护自己的领空. |
| 183 | Well, clearly, clearly they could not. | 显然,他们不能 |
| 184 | But what is the U.S. assessment of how much nuclear material at those sites was moved | 但是,美国对这些地点的核材料被移动多少的评估是什么? |
| 185 | prior to the attack? | 在攻击之前? |
| 186 | There has been talk for days about bombing of Fordow. | 关于轰炸福多的事 已经谈了好几天了 |
| 187 | Well, look, no one will know for sure for days, but I doubt they moved it because you | 嗯,你看,没有人会肯定 几天,但我怀疑他们移动它 因为你 |
| 188 | really can't move anything right now, and they can't move anything right now inside | 真的不能移动任何东西 现在,他们不能移动任何东西 现在里面 |
| 189 | of Iran. | 安全理事会 |
| 190 | I mean, the minute a truck starts driving somewhere, the Israelis have seen it and they've | 我的意思是,一卡车开始开车的地方, 以色列人已经看到了,他们已经 |
| 191 | targeted it and taken it out. | 瞄准它并把它拿出来。 |
| 192 | So our assessment is we have to assume that that's a lot of 60 percent enriched uranium | 因此,我们的评估是,我们必须假设 这是大量的60%的浓缩铀 |
| 193 | buried deep under the ground there in Esfahan. | 埋在伊斯法罕的地下深处。 |
| 194 | And that really is the key. | 这才是关键 |
| 195 | What they should do with that is they should bring it out of the ground and turn it over. | 他们应该做的是,他们应该把它带出地面,把它翻过来。 |
| 196 | Multiple countries around the world will take it and down blend it. | 世界上多个国家将把它和它混合在一起。 |
| 197 | That's what they should do with that. | 这是他们应该做的。 |
| 198 | And what they should do is say, we're not going to have any enrichment capability in | 他们应该做的是,我们不会有任何浓缩能力 |
| 199 | our country. | 我们的国家 |
| 200 | Instead, what we're going to have is a civil nuclear program like dozens of countries | 相反,我们将有一个民用的核计划 像几十个国家 |
| 201 | around the world have where we build reactors that create electricity and we import enriched | 全世界都有建造发电反应堆 并进口浓缩的反应堆 |
| 202 | material. | 物质。 |
| 203 | And we've made very general. | 我们做了非常将军。 |
| 204 | I'm not going to get all the details of the offers, but there are other avenues here that | 我不会得到所有的报价的细节, 但还有其他途径在这里, |
| 205 | would be acceptable to them. | 他们可以接受 |
| 206 | If that's what they wanted, if what they want is a civil, peaceful nuclear program, the | 如果这是他们想要的, 如果他们想要的是一个民用的,和平的核计划, |
| 207 | route has always been there. | 路线一直存在 |
| 208 | The problem is that everything they're demanding has nothing to do with a peaceful program. | 问题在于他们要求的一切与和平计划无关. |
| 209 | They are all the things you would want if you want to retain the option of one day weaponizing | 如果你想保留一天武器化的选择 这些都是你想要的 |
| 210 | the program, which has been their clear intent. | 这是他们的明确意图。 |
| 211 | To me, that's indisputable. | 对我来说,这是无可争辩的。 |
| 212 | I followed this issue for 15 years, including the intelligence on it for 15 years. | 我跟踪这个问题已经15年了 包括15年的情报 |
| 213 | OK, I followed it and the intelligence. | 好吧,我跟踪它和情报。 |
| 214 | These are assessments and sometimes they've been wrong. | 这些是评估,有时是错的. |
| 215 | I've seen them revised multiple times. | 我看过很多次了 |
| 216 | These guys want a nuclear weapon one day. | 这些家伙总有一天想要核武器 |
| 217 | OK, to that point, it isn't going to happen. | 好吧,到那时,它不会发生。 |
| 218 | Not while Donald Trump is president. | 唐纳德·特朗普当上总统时不会 |
| 219 | Understood. | 明白吗? |
| 220 | You've said this is not about regime change, but you were describing a regime that you | 你说这与政权更迭无关 但你却在描述一个政权 |
| 221 | have said for decades, I mean, for upwards of 40 years has chanted death to America, | 数十年来,我一直说, 超过40年 已经向美国高呼死亡, |
| 222 | hasn't all the things you just described. | 你刚才描述的不是所有的事情 |
| 223 | Isn't a diplomatic deal with them a lifeline? | 和他们的外交交易不是生命线吗? |
| 224 | Aren't you offering to negotiate with the same people you're saying did all these things? | 你不是说要和你说的那些人谈判吗? |
| 225 | So therefore, are you actually looking for regime change? | 因此,你实际上在寻求政权更迭? |
| 226 | That misses the point. | 这一点没有重点。 |
| 227 | I don't like that they chant those things, but one thing is that they chant those things. | 我不喜欢他们高呼那些东西, 但一件事是他们高呼那些东西。 |
| 228 | Another thing is that they chant those things and they have terror proxies all over the | 另一件事是,他们高喊那些东西 他们有恐怖的代理 遍布各地 |
| 229 | world and they have long range missiles that can reach the United States one day and they | 他们有长程导弹 可以到达美国一天,他们 |
| 230 | have the potential to be one step away from a nuclear weapon. | 有可能远离核武器。 |
| 231 | Well, one day could be tomorrow, could be a week from now, could be a month from now. | 嗯,有一天可能是明天, 可能是一个星期以后, 可能是一个月以后。 |
| 232 | All it takes is the flip of a switch. | 只需要开关的翻转 |
| 233 | By the way, they're not going to broadcast that to the world. | 顺便说一句,他们不会向全世界广播的。 |
| 234 | By the time we figure out that they're doing it, you have all the pieces in place. | 当我们发现他们正在做的时候,你已经把所有东西都准备好。 |
| 235 | It's like you have a loaded gun here and the ammunition. | 你好像有枪和弹药 |
| 236 | It only takes one second. | 只需要一秒钟。 |
| 237 | We have other targets that we could hit, but we achieved our objective. | 我们还有其他目标,我们可以打击,但我们实现了我们的目标。 |
| 238 | The primary targets we were interested in are the ones that were struck tonight in devastating | 我们所关注的首要目标 就是那些在今晚遭受毁灭性袭击的目标 |
| 239 | fashion, the ones that were struck, I guess, yeah, tonight over there, their time, in devastating | 时尚,那些 被击中,我想,是的, 今晚在那里,他们的时间, 在毁灭性的 |
| 240 | fashion and we've achieved that objective. | 时尚和我们已经实现了这个目标。 |
| 241 | There are no planned military operations right now against Iran unless, unless they mess | 现在没有计划对伊朗采取军事行动 除非他们搞砸了 |
| 242 | around and they attack American or American interests, then they're going to have a problem. | 他们攻击美国或美国的利益, 然后他们会有一个问题。 |
| 243 | Then they're going to have a problem and I'm not going to broadcast what those problems | 然后他们就会有麻烦了 我不会播那些问题 |
| 244 | are. | 对 |
| 245 | Suffice it to say, know this, the United States flew halfway around the world, right into | 只需说一句 美国飞过半个世界 |
| 246 | the heart of Iran over their most sensitive locations. | 伊朗的心脏在他们最敏感的地方。 |
| 247 | These things got rocked and then we left and we were out of their airspace. | 这些东西被震动了 然后我们离开了 我们离开了他们的领空 |
| 248 | We were over the ocean before they figured out what had happened and there are plenty | 在他们知道发生了什么之前 我们在大海上 |
| 249 | of other targets. | 其他目标。 |
| 250 | We don't want to do that. | 我们不想这样做。 |
| 251 | That's not our preference. | 这不是我们喜欢的 |
| 252 | We want peace deals with them and that's up to them to decide. | 我们要和他们谈和 这得由他们决定 |
| 253 | You said defend American interests with the United States military. | 你说与美国军方一起捍卫美国的利益 |
| 254 | Take action to keep, for example, the transit point, the Strait of Hormuz open. | 例如,采取行动保持过境点霍尔木兹海峡的开放。 |
| 255 | If there are attacks on oil installations with the United States, consider that a direct | 如果与美国发生攻击石油设施的事件,则认为是直接的。 |
| 256 | act by the state, even if it was carried out by a militia. | 国家的行为,即使是由民兵实施的。 |
| 257 | Well, I'm not going to take options away from the president. | 我不会从总统那里夺走选择权的 |
| 258 | That's not something we're talking about right now in terms of being immediate. | 我们现在谈论的不是眼前的事。 |
| 259 | But if they do that, the first people that should be angry about it are the Chinese government | 但是,如果他们这样做, 第一个应该对此感到愤怒的人是中国政府 |
| 260 | because they take a lot of their oil comes through there. | 因为他们消耗了大量的石油从那里经过。 |
| 261 | So they should be the first ones that are saying if they mine the Straits of Hormuz, | 所以他们应该是第一个说 如果他们开采霍尔木兹海峡, |
| 262 | the Chinese are going to pay a huge price and every other country in the world is going | 中国人会付出巨大的代价 世界上所有的国家都会去 |
| 263 | to pay a huge price. | 要付出巨大的代价。 |
| 264 | We will too. | 我们也一样。 |
| 265 | It'll have some impact on us. | 这会对我们产生一些影响。 |
| 266 | It'll have a lot more impact on the rest of the world, a lot more impact on the rest of | 这会对世界产生更大的影响,对世界产生更大的影响 |
| 267 | the world. | 这个世界。 |
| 268 | There would be a suicidal move on their part because I think the whole world would come | 因为全世界都会来 |
| 269 | against them if they did that. | 如果他们这样做了,就对他们不利。 |
| 270 | Will the Chinese and Russians stop trading with Iran? | 中俄两国能否停止与伊朗贸易?. |
| 271 | You have to ask the Chinese and the Russians. | 须问中俄. |
| 272 | You haven't asked them? | 你没问他们吗? |
| 273 | Probably not. | 也许不是。 |
| 274 | Well, the Russians are getting a bunch of these drones that they're using are coming | 好吧,俄罗斯人得到了 一堆这些无人机 他们使用 |
| 275 | from Iran. | 来自伊朗。 |
| 276 | Exactly. | 没错 |
| 277 | They're coming from Iran. | 他们来自伊朗。 |
| 278 | So I saw the foreign minister instead of meeting with Steve Woodcoff is headed to Moscow to | 所以我看到外交部长没有和史蒂夫·伍德考夫见面 而是要去莫斯科 |
| 279 | meet with Putin, which was a pre-scheduled meeting, which is fine. | 与普京会面是事先排定的会议, |
| 280 | They can go meet and the Russians at the end of the day, I mean, they buy drones from them. | 他们可以去见面 俄军在最后一天, 我的意思是,他们从他们购买无人机。 |
| 281 | But look, this is very simple. | 听着,这很简单。 |
| 282 | We want to have an agreement with them, a diplomatic agreement in which they have a | 我们希望与他们达成协议,一项外交协议,其中他们有一项 |
| 283 | civil nuclear program but are not enriching and don't have weapons-grade material or weapons-grade | 民用核计划,但不丰富,没有武器级材料或武器级材料 |
| 284 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}你的能力就在这里 | |
| 285 | That's that simple. | 就这么简单 |
| 286 | That's our interest here. | 这是我们在这里的兴趣。 |
| 287 | Understood. | 明白吗? |
| 288 | Who they trade with, who they deal with. | 他们与谁交易, 他们处理谁。 |
| 289 | Those are other topics. | 这些都是其他议题。 |
| 290 | Our objective here is very straightforward. | 我们的目标很简单。 |
| 291 | They're not going to have a nuclear weapon. | 他们不会有核武器的 |
| 292 | They're not even going to get close to a nuclear weapon. | 他们甚至不会接近核武器。 |
| 293 | They're not even going to be in the neighborhood of a nuclear weapon because these people are | 他们甚至不会在核武器的附近 因为这些人 |
| 294 | dangerous. | 危险 |
| 295 | This is a radical Shia clerics who run that country and they are the source of all instability | 这是一个激进的什叶派神职人员 他们管理着这个国家 他们是一切不稳定的根源 |
| 296 | in the region. | 在区域。 |
| 297 | All of it. | 所有一切众生. |
| 298 | Without Iran and this regime, there is no Hamas. | 没有伊朗和这个政权,就没有哈马斯。 |
| 299 | There is no Hezbollah. | 没有真主党。 |
| 300 | Well, because we don't want them to have a nuclear weapon, but that's the core objective. | 因为我们不希望他们拥有核武器 但这是核心目标 |
| 301 | No, no, but I'm going through the things they've done because that's why they can't have a | 不,不,但我正在经历 他们所做的事情,因为 这就是为什么他们不能有一个 |
| 302 | nuclear weapon. | 核武器问题。 |
| 303 | They sponsor the Shia militias, Hamas, Hezbollah, all these other terrorist groups. | 他们赞助什叶派民兵,哈马斯,真主党,所有这些其它恐怖集团. |
| 304 | These people are never going to get anywhere close to a nuclear weapon, not while Donald | 这些人永远不会接近核武器 唐纳德不会 |
| 305 | Trump is president. | 特朗普是总统. |
| 306 | For the Americans at home who are going, are we at war? | 对于美国人在家谁去, 我们在打仗吗? |
| 307 | I'm trying to suss out some of the facts here. | 我试图找出一些事实。 |
| 308 | Why would Iran agree to any peace deal if the United States has already pulled out of | 如果美国已经退出,伊朗为什么同意任何和平协议? |
| 309 | they had, as President Trump did in 2018, and now launched two surprise attacks, both | 正如特朗普总统在2018年所做的那样,他们发动了两次突然袭击, |
| 310 | Israel and the United States have done so? | 以色列和美国已经这样做了? |
| 311 | There is such a massive trust deficit there. | 那里存在着如此巨大的信任赤字。 |
| 312 | How could you possibly come to it? | 你怎么会来? |
| 313 | Yeah, but the trust deficit started with Iran. | 是的,但信任赤字始于伊朗。 |
| 314 | I know. | 我知道,我记得 |
| 315 | Well, the trust deficit, the ones that shouldn't be trusted are the Iranians because they're | 信任不足 不该信任的就是伊朗人 因为他们 |
| 316 | the ones that sponsor terrorism. | 那些支持恐怖主义的人。 |
| 317 | Did they forewarn us before they blew up the embassy in Lebanon and killed over 200 American | 在他们炸毁黎巴嫩大使馆 杀死200多名美国人之前 他们有没有事先通知我们 |
| 318 | servicemen? | 军人? |
| 319 | Did they forewarn us before they built IEDs and blew the legs and arms off of American | 他们在制造简易爆炸装置之前有没有警告过我们 炸掉了美国的腿和手臂 |
| 320 | servicemen in Iraq? | 在伊拉克的军人? |
| 321 | I mean, these are the people that are doing this forever. | 我是说,这些人是永远这样做的人。 |
| 322 | They're the ones that no one should trust. | 他们就是没人会信任的人 |
| 323 | They're the ones that have lied about their nuclear program. | 是他们谎称他们的核计划 |
| 324 | They're the ones that have hidden things from the international organisms. | 他们是那些 隐藏的东西 从国际生物。 |
| 325 | But that sounds like we're headed towards regime change or the desire to get these people | 但听起来我们正走向政权更迭 或想要这些人 |
| 326 | out of power. | 脱权. |
| 327 | No, no, no, no. | 释曰. |
| 328 | Are you? | 是吗? |
| 329 | No, a serious foreign policy is one that's focused on identifying what our national interest | 不,一个严肃的外交政策是 专注于确定我们的国家利益 |
| 330 | is. | 没错 |
| 331 | You don't have to like the regime. | 你不必喜欢这个政权 |
| 332 | There are a lot of regimes around the world that we don't like, okay? | 世界上有很多政权 我们不喜欢,好吗? |
| 333 | But in this particular case, what we are focused on is not the changing of the regime. | 但是,就这一具体情况而言,我们所关注的不是政权的改变。 |
| 334 | Okay, that's up to the Iranian people if they want to do that, but that's not what we're | 好吧,这取决于伊朗人民 如果他们想这样做, 但这不是我们是什么 |
| 335 | focused on. | 专注于。 |
| 336 | Our national interest is about one thing, and that is Iran not getting anywhere near | 我们的国家利益只涉及一件事,那就是伊朗没有取得任何进展 |
| 337 | the capability to weaponize and have nuclear weapons. | 拥有武器化和核武器的能力。 |
| 338 | They're not going to get anywhere near that capability. | 他们不会接近那个能力 |
| 339 | The president has made that clear from day one. | 总统从第一天开始就说清楚了 |
| 340 | Our preference for solving that problem, that very specific problem, is through diplomacy. | 我们倾向于通过外交来解决这个非常特殊的问题。 |
| 341 | We've said that. | 我们已经说过了 |
| 342 | We've given it every opportunity. | 我们给了它每一个机会。 |
| 343 | They played games. | 他们玩游戏。 |
| 344 | They tried delay tactics. | 他们尝试了拖延战术。 |
| 345 | They're trying to delay tactics now on the Europeans because of the snapback provisions. | 他们正试图推迟对欧洲人的战术 因为快速回击条款。 |
| 346 | And you talk about the JCPOA, that was a crazy deal. | 你谈论JCPOA, 这是一个疯狂的交易。 |
| 347 | When did the president make this decision? | 总统什么时候决定的? |
| 348 | Because he said he was giving two more weeks of diplomacy on Friday, and on Friday, these | 因为他说他在周五再做两个星期的外交工作 在周五 |
| 349 | jets took off. | 飞机起飞了 |
| 350 | Well, the president retains the opportunity to pull out of this at any moment, including | 总统保留了随时退出的机会 |
| 351 | 10 minutes before. | 十分钟前 |
| 352 | But the president ordered options. | 但总统下令选择 |
| 353 | Look, the decision, in my view, was made when he wrote a letter to the Supreme Leader and | 在我看来,决定是在他给最高领袖写信时作出的 |
| 354 | he said over the next 60 days, we want to do a deal with you and solve this problem | 他说在接下来的60天里 我们想和你做个交易 解决这个问题 |
| 355 | of nuclear weaponization. | 核武器武器化。 |
| 356 | We want to do it peacefully. | 我们希望和平地做到这一点。 |
| 357 | If after 60 days, we don't see progress or it isn't solved, we have other alternatives. | 如果在60天之后,我们没有看到进步,或者它还没有解决,我们还有其他选择. |
| 358 | He made that very clear. | 他说得很清楚 |
| 359 | I think what some people are struggling with here is that we today have a president who | 我认为有些人在这里挣扎的是 我们今天有一个总统 |
| 360 | does what he says he's gonna do. | 照他说的做 |
| 361 | And that's what happened here. | 这就是这里发生的事情。 |
| 362 | And hopefully the Iranian regime got that message. | 但愿伊朗政权得到这个信息。 |
| 363 | We're gonna hit a commercial break, so I have to wrap you there. | 我们要去一个商业休息, 所以我必须包你在那里。 |
| 364 | Thank you very much for your time. | 非常感谢你的时间。 |
该视频共有字幕 364 条。解锁更多字幕为会员功能,请移动到 价格