实战练英文 | 非法移民夸张犯罪，纽约州长事不关己、一无所知
实战练英文 | 非法移民夸张犯罪，纽约州长事不关己、一无所知。共和党议员一再举例痛批；民主党议员反向州长因被【议员欺凌】道歉｜庇护州 非法移民政策 国会听证 |
发布于 2026-01-13 · 时长 19:21字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:00 | So let's talk about Sebastian Zepeda Khalil. | 我们谈谈塞巴斯蒂安·泽佩达·哈利勒 |
| 0:04 | Do you know who that is? | 你知道那是谁吗? |
| 0:06 | I don't have the specific details at my disposal, no. | 我手头没有具体细节 |
| 0:08 | Well, this is an illegal migrant in New York | 这是纽约的非法移民 |
| 0:10 | because of your sanctuary state policies. | 因为你的庇护政策 |
| 0:12 | Do you know what crime he committed? | 你知道他犯了什么罪吗? |
| 0:15 | I'm not familiar at this moment. | 我现在不熟悉 |
| 0:17 | I bet you're going to be familiar when I remind you. | 我打赌我提醒你你会很熟悉 |
| 0:19 | He found a sleeping woman on the subway, lit her on fire, | 他在地铁上发现一个睡着的女人, 点燃了她, |
| 0:23 | and burned her alive. | 把她活活烧死 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
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| 1 | So let's talk about Sebastian Zepeda Khalil. | 我们谈谈塞巴斯蒂安·泽佩达·哈利勒 |
| 2 | Do you know who that is? | 你知道那是谁吗? |
| 3 | I don't have the specific details at my disposal, no. | 我手头没有具体细节 |
| 4 | Well, this is an illegal migrant in New York | 这是纽约的非法移民 |
| 5 | because of your sanctuary state policies. | 因为你的庇护政策 |
| 6 | Do you know what crime he committed? | 你知道他犯了什么罪吗? |
| 7 | I'm not familiar at this moment. | 我现在不熟悉 |
| 8 | I bet you're going to be familiar when I remind you. | 我打赌我提醒你你会很熟悉 |
| 9 | He found a sleeping woman on the subway, lit her on fire, | 他在地铁上发现一个睡着的女人, 点燃了她, |
| 10 | and burned her alive. | 把她活活烧死 |
| 11 | This is in Kathy Hockels, New York. | 这是纽约凯西霍克斯 |
| 12 | And as I'm sure you are aware, and I'll remind you, | 我相信你知道 我会提醒你 |
| 13 | that ICE issued an order to detain this violent criminal, | ICE发布命令拘留这名暴力罪犯, |
| 14 | but that was rejected by New York officials | 但被纽约官员拒绝 |
| 15 | due to sanctuary state laws. | 依据州法律 |
| 16 | Now, a court order and a detainer | 现在,法院命令和拘留犯 |
| 17 | for a guy who did the things Mr. Hernandez did | 赫尔南德斯先生做过的事 |
| 18 | in Tompkins County can't hold him an hour and 18 minutes, | 在汤普金斯县,他不能坚持一个小时18分钟, |
| 19 | and you won't say that's wrong? | 你不会说这是错的吧? |
| 20 | I have said we cooperate when there's a criminal case | 我说了如果有刑事案件我们合作 |
| 21 | where someone is committed to crime, we turn them over. | 在有人犯罪的地方 我们把他们翻过来 |
| 22 | This is sanctuary policy in a nutshell. | 简言之,这是庇护政策。 |
| 23 | You won't even condemn something | 你甚至不会谴责什么 |
| 24 | that anyone with common sense knows is ridiculous. | 任何有常识的人都知道这是荒谬的。 |
| 25 | You're mischaracterizing the nation. | 你对这个国家的描述是错误的 |
| 26 | And now they want to act offended | 现在,他们想 行为冒犯 |
| 27 | because someone has the courage to say, | 因为有人有勇气说, |
| 28 | if it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck, | 如果它像鸭子一样走路 说话像鸭子 |
| 29 | maybe it's a duck. | 也许是只鸭子 |
| 30 | Chair recognizes Ms. Stefanik from New York. | 主席欢迎来自纽约的斯特凡尼克女士。 |
| 31 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 32 | Governor Hockel, on your first day in office, | 霍克尔州长 你上任第一天 |
| 33 | you signed Executive Order 1. | 您签署了第1号行政命令。 |
| 34 | Is that correct? | 是吗? |
| 35 | I believe it is. | 我认为是的。 |
| 36 | And you extended this Executive Order | 你延长了行政命令 |
| 37 | not once, not twice, but three times. | 不是一次,不是两次,而是三次。 |
| 38 | Most recently, January 16th this year. | 最近 今年1月16号 |
| 39 | Is that correct? | 是吗? |
| 40 | If that's what your facts show, | 如果你的事实表明, |
| 41 | I signed countless Executive Orders. | 我签署了无数的行政命令。 |
| 42 | I would assume you know it's Executive Order 1. | 我猜你知道这是第1号行政命令 |
| 43 | And this is a continuation of your predecessor | 这是你前任的续作 |
| 44 | sanctuary state policies. | 庇护国政策. |
| 45 | Correct. | 没错 |
| 46 | Is included in that. | 包含在其中。 |
| 47 | I want to be sure we are defining sanctuary state properly. | 我想确定我们是在正确定义庇护国 |
| 48 | I'll define it for you. | 我帮你定义 |
| 49 | It is the policy of the state | 这是国家的政策 |
| 50 | that state officers or employees | 国家官员或雇员 |
| 51 | shall not disclose information to federal immigration authorities | 不得向联邦移民局透露信息; |
| 52 | for the purpose of federal civil immigration enforcement. | 为了联邦民事移民执法的目的。 |
| 53 | It goes on to say, | 它接着说, |
| 54 | law enforcement officers may not use resources, | 执法人员不得使用资源, |
| 55 | equipment or personnel for the purpose of detecting | 侦查设备或人员 |
| 56 | and apprehending any individual suspected or wanted | 逮捕任何嫌疑人或通缉犯 |
| 57 | for violating a civil immigration office. | 侵犯公民移民办公室罪 |
| 58 | Law enforcement officers have no authority | 执法人员无权 |
| 59 | in the state of New York to take any policy action | 在纽约州采取任何政策行动 |
| 60 | solely because the person is an undocumented alien. | 只因为此人是无证件外国人。 |
| 61 | That's a quote in your Executive Orders that you extended. | 这是你延长的行政命令中的一句 |
| 62 | 你知道Sakir Akan是谁吗? | |
| 63 | I want to get back to the first part of the question. | 我想回到问题第一部分 |
| 64 | No, I'm asking a question. | 不,我在问你问题 |
| 65 | 你知道Sakir Akan是谁吗? | |
| 66 | I want to make sure you understand | 我想让你明白 |
| 67 | that this simply says that we will cooperate with ICE. | 这说明我们将与ICE合作 |
| 68 | No, it does not say that. | 不,它没有说。 |
| 69 | I read what it says. | 我读过上面写的 |
| 70 | And let me talk to you about the results. | 让我跟你谈谈结果 |
| 71 | 你知道Sakir Akan是谁吗? | |
| 72 | You should as the governor of New York State. | 你应该做纽约州州长 |
| 73 | Do you know? | 你知道吗? |
| 74 | Refresh my recollection. | 刷新我的记忆。 |
| 75 | He was an illegal migrant in New York. | 他在纽约是非法移民 |
| 76 | And do you know what crime he committed | 你知道他犯了什么罪吗? |
| 77 | in addition to being here legally? | 除了在这里合法? |
| 78 | No, I do not. | 不,我没有。 |
| 79 | You do not? | 是吗? |
| 80 | This was widely reported. | 这得到了广泛的报道。 |
| 81 | He found a 15-year-old girl, threatened her with a metal pole, | 他找到一个15岁的女孩 用金属杆威胁她 |
| 82 | told her to get into the backseat of his car. | 叫她进他的车后座 |
| 83 | He took her clothes off, | 他脱掉她的衣服, |
| 84 | and he violently raped her in Albany, New York. | 他在纽约的奥尔巴尼暴力强奸了她 |
| 85 | Do you know who Sebastian Zepeda Khalil is? | 你知道塞巴斯蒂安·泽佩达·哈利勒是谁吗? |
| 86 | I'm sure you'll tell me there's many cases whether they're... | 我敢肯定,你会告诉我 有很多案例 他们是否... |
| 87 | These are high-profile cases. | 这些是引人注目的案件。 |
| 88 | New Yorkers know about them, and you don't? | 纽约人知道他们,你不知道吗? |
| 89 | So let's talk about Sebastian Zepeda Khalil. | 我们谈谈塞巴斯蒂安·泽佩达·哈利勒 |
| 90 | Do you know who that is? | 你知道那是谁吗? |
| 91 | I don't have the specific details at my disposal, no. | 我手头没有具体细节 |
| 92 | Well, this is an illegal migrant in New York | 这是纽约的非法移民 |
| 93 | because of your sanctuary state policies. | 因为你的庇护政策 |
| 94 | Do you know what crime he committed? | 你知道他犯了什么罪吗? |
| 95 | I'm not familiar at this moment. | 我现在不熟悉 |
| 96 | I bet you're going to be familiar when I remind you. | 我打赌我提醒你你会很熟悉 |
| 97 | He found a sleeping woman on the subway, | 他在地铁上找到一个睡着的女人 |
| 98 | lit her on fire, and burned her alive. | 烧死她,并活活烧死她。 |
| 99 | This is in Kathy Hockels, New York. | 这是纽约凯西霍克斯 |
| 100 | And as I'm sure you are aware, and I'll remind you, | 我相信你知道 我会提醒你 |
| 101 | that ICE issued an order to detain this violent criminal, | ICE发布命令拘留这名暴力罪犯, |
| 102 | but that was rejected by New York officials | 但被纽约官员拒绝 |
| 103 | due to sanctuary state laws. | 依据州法律 |
| 104 | Now, do you know who Raymond Rojas Basilio is? | 你知道雷蒙德·罗哈斯·巴西利奥是谁吗? |
| 105 | I just want to say this. | 我只是想说这一点。 |
| 106 | These crimes are horrific. | 这些罪行是可怕的。 |
| 107 | Because of your sanctuary state policies. | 因为你的庇护国策 |
| 108 | In all of these cases, we would work with ICE to remove them. | 在所有这些情况中,我们将与ICE合作将其清除. |
| 109 | You did not in this case. | 这件案子你没有 |
| 110 | They are walking on the streets because of your policies | 由于你的政策,他们在街上走 |
| 111 | and your executive order that you signed three times. | 还有你三次签字的行政命令 |
| 112 | Now, Raymond Rojas Basilio, do you know who that is? | 雷蒙德·罗哈斯·巴西里奥 你知道他是谁吗 |
| 113 | I'm telling you this. | 我告诉你 |
| 114 | I will explain to you the policies of New York. | 我将向你们解释纽约的政策。 |
| 115 | We cooperate with... | 我们合作... |
| 116 | You do not. | 你没有。 |
| 117 | Specifically, ICE was told not to detain this individual, | 具体地说,ICE被告知不要拘留这个人, |
| 118 | and he burned a woman alive on the New York subways | 他在纽约地铁上活活烧死一个女人 |
| 119 | in Kathy Hockels, New York. | 在纽约凯西霍克斯 |
| 120 | So I will keep on going. | 所以我会继续前进。 |
| 121 | What about Raymond Rojas Basilio? | 雷蒙德・罗哈斯・巴西里奥呢? |
| 122 | Do you know who that is? | 你知道那是谁吗? |
| 123 | I'm gonna tell you our overall policy, | 我要告诉你我们的总体政策 |
| 124 | which will address all this. | 它将处理所有这一切。 |
| 125 | I'll tell you who that is. | 我告诉你是谁 |
| 126 | He is an illegal who molested an 11-year-old in our state | 他是一个非法的 骚扰我们州11岁的孩子 |
| 127 | because, again, of your sanctuary state policies. | 因为,再次,你的庇护国政策。 |
| 128 | This illegal was shielded | 这个非法的被挡住了 |
| 129 | from federal immigration enforcement | 联邦移民执法部门 |
| 130 | and able to commit this heinous crime. | 并且能够犯下这种令人发指的罪行。 |
| 131 | And what about Wilson Castillo Diaz? | 那威尔逊·卡斯蒂略·迪亚斯呢? |
| 132 | Do you know who that is? | 你知道那是谁吗? |
| 133 | I'm telling you this. | 我告诉你 |
| 134 | We do cooperate fully with ICE and criminal prosecution. | 我们确实与ICE和刑事诉讼充分合作。 |
| 135 | Our sanctuary regulations... | 我们的庇护条例... |
| 136 | You're not advocating for these victims. | 你不是在为这些受害者辩护 |
| 137 | Only deal with civil enforcement. | 只处理民事执法. |
| 138 | This is a five-year-old who was raped | 这是被强奸的五岁小孩 |
| 139 | on Long Island in Nassau County. | 在拿骚县的长岛 |
| 140 | You are not advocating on behalf of these victims. | 你不能为这些受害者辩护 |
| 141 | You are shielding illegals. | 你在保护非法份子 |
| 142 | Even in your opening statement, | 即使你的开场白 |
| 143 | you're prioritizing putting illegals first. | 你将违法者放在首位 |
| 144 | Rapes of young girls, | 强奸少女; |
| 145 | beatings of NYPD cops by illegals | 非法者殴打纽约警察 |
| 146 | who are here under Kathy Hochul's failed policies, | 在凯西·霍胡尔失败的政策下来到这里 |
| 147 | burning New Yorkers alive. | 把纽约人活活烧死 |
| 148 | This is Kathy Hochul's New York. | 这是凯西霍胡尔的纽约。 |
| 149 | It's one of the many reasons | 这是很多原因之一 |
| 150 | why you're hemorrhaging support | 你为什么出血支持 |
| 151 | from hardworking New York families. | 来自努力工作的纽约家庭 |
| 152 | These are horrific crimes and they're heartbreaking. | 这些是可怕的罪行,令人心碎。 |
| 153 | They're horrific crimes that are committed on your watch. | 这些都是可怕的犯罪 在你的监视下。 |
| 154 | You signed this executive order on your first day in office. | 你上任第一天就签署了这项行政命令 |
| 155 | You signed it again and again. | 你一次又一次地签了 |
| 156 | This January. | 这年一月. |
| 157 | We deserve a governor who stands up | 我们该有个站立的州长 |
| 158 | for law-abiding New Yorkers, | 对于守法的纽约人, |
| 159 | doesn't put illegals first, | 不把违法者放在首位, |
| 160 | but actually puts New Yorkers first. | 但实际上把纽约人放在首位。 |
| 161 | I appreciate the chairmen's... | 感谢各位主席的... |
| 162 | Rather than going after the viral moment, | 而不是去 病毒的时刻, |
| 163 | I suggest you look at the facts. | 我建议你看看事实 |
| 164 | No, no, no. | 不,不,没有。 |
| 165 | I'm standing up for New Yorkers. | 我为纽约人而立. |
| 166 | Rather than addressing the illegals in New York, | 而不是针对纽约的非法分子, |
| 167 | you are prioritizing your far-left sanctuary state policies | 您正在优先 您的极左庇护国政策 |
| 168 | which you put in place with executive orders. | 你下达了行政命令 |
| 169 | Instead of advocating for victims... | 而不是主张受害者... |
| 170 | We cooperate in all those cases. | 在所有这些案件中,我们给予合作。 |
| 171 | A five-year-old who was raped. | 一名五岁被强暴. |
| 172 | We cooperate with ICE. | 我们与ICE合作. |
| 173 | You did not. | 你没有。 |
| 174 | They were released... | 他们被释放了... |
| 175 | Sanctuary state policies in New York State. | 纽约州圣州政策. |
| 176 | No amount of words is going to clean up your failed record | 没有多少字能清除你的失败记录 |
| 177 | and these horrific crimes committed in sanctuary state | 以及这些在庇护国犯下的可怕罪行 |
| 178 | that you created. | 那是你们创造的。 |
| 179 | And with that, I yield back. | 有了这个,我就投降了 |
| 180 | Your representation affects... | 你的代理影响... |
| 181 | Absolutely false. | 绝对是假的 |
| 182 | The chair recognizes Ms. Norton from Washington, D.C. | 主席欢迎来自华盛顿特区的Norton女士。 |
| 183 | He recognizes Mr. Jordan from Ohio. | 他认出了俄亥俄州的乔丹先生 |
| 184 | Thank you, Mr. Chairman. | 谢谢你,主席先生。 |
| 185 | Governor Hokel, third paragraph, | 州长霍克尔,第三段, |
| 186 | second sentence in your written testimony. | 你书面证词中的第二句 |
| 187 | You said New York State cooperates | 你说纽约州合作 |
| 188 | with U.S. Immigration Customs Enforcement in criminal cases. | 在刑事案件中与美国移民海关执法部门合作。 |
| 189 | Governor, who's Jesus Romero Hernandez? | 州长,谁是耶稣・罗梅罗・赫南德斯? |
| 190 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 191 | I want to reaffirm that we do cooperate in cases where... | 我想重申,我们确实在... |
| 192 | That wasn't the question. | 这不是问题所在 |
| 193 | I just read your statement. | 我刚读了你的口供 |
| 194 | I can read your statement. | 我可以读你的陈述。 |
| 195 | Who is Jesus Romero Hernandez? | 谁是耶稣罗梅罗·赫尔南德斯? |
| 196 | I don't have the details on every single person | 我没有每个人的细节 |
| 197 | in the state of 20 million people. | 在2000万人的状态。 |
| 198 | I understand, but this guy's a citizen of Mexico, | 我明白,但这家伙是墨西哥公民 |
| 199 | deported seven times, came to your state, | 被驱逐出境七次,来到你的国家, |
| 200 | assaulted one of your residents with a machete, | 用大砍刀袭击你的一个居民 |
| 201 | choked a police officer. | 掐死一个警察 |
| 202 | Then when he was in custody, | 当他被拘禁的时候, |
| 203 | assaulted a corrections officer. | 袭击了一名狱警。 |
| 204 | ICE finds out this guy is in your state's custody, | ICE发现这家伙在你的州监管, |
| 205 | and they send you a detainer. | 他们派一个拘留者去教化你。 |
| 206 | You're familiar with a detainer, right? | 你对拘留犯很熟悉吧? |
| 207 | Yes, I am. | 对,我是。 |
| 208 | Notice of action, immigration detainer | 行动通知、拘留移民者 |
| 209 | to Tompkins County Jail | 到汤普金斯县监狱 |
| 210 | from Syracuse Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. | 从锡拉丘兹移民和海关执法。 |
| 211 | Section one, they check a couple boxes. | 第一节 他们检查了几个盒子 |
| 212 | The first one they check is a final order of removal | 他们检查的第一个是最后的清除命令 |
| 213 | against the alien has taken place. | 已经发生了针对外国人的行为。 |
| 214 | That means a court has said this guy needs to go. | 也就是说法庭说这家伙需要离开 |
| 215 | This machete-wielding, cop-choking, | 这把砍刀,抽警察, |
| 216 | corrections officer, assaulting guy needs to go. | 惩戒官,攻击者需要离开。 |
| 217 | Then they also check another box, | 然后他们还检查了另一个盒子, |
| 218 | and they say biometric confirmation | 他们说生物鉴别确认 |
| 219 | of who this individual is, this alien's identity. | 这个人是谁 这个外星人的身份 |
| 220 | So they got the right guy, | 所以他们找对人了 |
| 221 | and a court has said he needs to go. | 庭上说他必须去 |
| 222 | Any idea what Tompkins County Jail decided to do | 知道Tompkins县监狱决定怎么做吗? |
| 223 | with that detainer order? | 用那个拘留令? |
| 224 | I will tell you this. | 我告诉你 |
| 225 | The state of- | 状态... |
| 226 | No, no, no, it's a specific question. | 不,不,不,这是一个具体问题。 |
| 227 | What did Tompkins County do? | 汤普金斯县做了什么? |
| 228 | Those, the descriptions you have put forth | 这些,你提出的描述 |
| 229 | are absolutely chilling and disturbing | 绝对令人寒冷和不安 |
| 230 | and reprehensible to all of us. | 并谴责我们所有人。 |
| 231 | My job is to protect the people of New York. | 我的工作是保护纽约人民。 |
| 232 | Which is why I'm asking you the question, | 所以我才问你 |
| 233 | what did Tompkins County do? | 汤普金斯县做了什么? |
| 234 | What I have responsibility for- | 我有责任... |
| 235 | I will tell you, since you're not gonna answer, | 我会告诉你, 既然你不打算回答, |
| 236 | we cannot and will not hold Mr. Hernandez. | 我们不能也不会拘留赫尔南德斯先生。 |
| 237 | We can't keep the machete guy | 我们不能留着那个砍刀的家伙 |
| 238 | who would choke the police officer | 谁会掐死警察 |
| 239 | and assault the corrections officer. | 并攻击惩戒人员。 |
| 240 | We can't keep him. | 我们不能留住他。 |
| 241 | In fact, we have the back and forth | 事实上,我们有前后 |
| 242 | from Tompkins County and ICE | 来自汤普金斯县和ICE |
| 243 | on January 28th of this year, 8.56 p.m. | 今年1月28日下午8时56分 |
| 244 | Tompkins County tells ICE, | 汤普金斯县告诉ICE, |
| 245 | we're not gonna hold this guy. | 我们不会抱着他。 |
| 246 | Seven minutes later, ICE responds back. | 7分钟后,ICE回复. |
| 247 | We will be there to take custody this evening. | 我们今晚会在那里监管 |
| 248 | 24 minutes later, Thompson County reiterates. | 24分钟后,汤普森县再次确认. |
| 249 | We're not gonna have him. | 我们不会有他的。 |
| 250 | We're not gonna turn him over. | 我们不会把他翻过来的 |
| 251 | 10.45, ICE arrives at the jail. | 10: 45,ICE到达监狱. |
| 252 | One hour and 18 minutes later, and guess what? | 1小时18分钟后,你猜怎么着? |
| 253 | Mr. Hernandez is not there. | 赫尔南德斯先生不在 |
| 254 | They couldn't wait one hour and 18 minutes | 他们不能等一个小时18分钟 |
| 255 | for a guy who assaulted one of your residents | 一个袭击你一个居民的人 |
| 256 | with a machete, choked a police officer, | 用一把砍刀 掐死一个警察 |
| 257 | and then went in custody, assaulted corrections officers. | 之后被拘留,殴打惩戒人员。 |
| 258 | That is sanctuary policy in a nutshell, | 简言之,这是庇护政策, |
| 259 | and that is what your state supports, | 这是你们的国家所支持的, |
| 260 | and so do these other governors. | 其他州长也一样 |
| 261 | That is what is so wrong | 这才是错的 |
| 262 | why the American people hate this concept. | 为什么美国人民讨厌这个概念. |
| 263 | You're conflating what the state of New York does | 你在夸大纽约州的工作 |
| 264 | is I control state police and prisons. | 我控制着州警察和监狱 |
| 265 | We have turned over 1,300 people. | 我们已经移交了1 300多人。 |
| 266 | So you disagree with it? | 所以你不同意吗? |
| 267 | We turn over 1,300 people. | 我们交出1300人。 |
| 268 | Did the sheriff make the wrong call? | 警长打错了电话吗? |
| 269 | Those are local policies that we would not have done | 这些是地方政策,我们不会这样做 |
| 270 | in the state of New York. | 在纽约州 |
| 271 | State of New York, that is a local decision. | 纽约州,这是一个地方决定。 |
| 272 | So you're saying the sheriff's wrong. | 所以你是说警长错了 |
| 273 | I would say this, if it happened in a state prison, | 如果发生在州立监狱的话 |
| 274 | we have already turned over 1,300 people. | 我们已经交出了1300多人。 |
| 275 | Sheriff in Thompson County, | 汤普森郡的警长 |
| 276 | a Democrat or Republican, Governor Harkin. | a 民主党或共和党,州长哈金. |
| 277 | There have been times, excuse me. | 有好几次了 对不起 |
| 278 | Is Sheriff in Thompson County a Democrat or Republican? | 汤普森郡的警长是民主党人还是共和党人? |
| 279 | Excuse me, there have been times when- | 打扰一下,曾经有几次... |
| 280 | Excuse me, I ask the questions, you give the answers. | 对不起,我问问题,你回答问题 |
| 281 | Is he a Democrat or Republican, you know? | 他是民主党人还是共和党人? |
| 282 | I'm asking for this moment to explain | 我要求这个时刻解释 |
| 283 | that I'm sometimes waiting for ICE to come pick up people. | 我有时会等ICE来接人 |
| 284 | I'm asking, is he a Democrat or Republican, | 我问他是民主党人还是共和党人 |
| 285 | and do you agree with the actions he took? | 你同意他的所作所为吗? |
| 286 | I think he's a Democrat. | 我觉得他是民主党人 |
| 287 | Do you agree with the actions he took? | 你同意他的所作所为吗? |
| 288 | How about that question? | 这个问题怎么样? |
| 289 | They are in conflict with what the state of New York would do. | 他们与纽约州会做什么冲突。 |
| 290 | Well, maybe they're scared. | 也许他们害怕了 |
| 291 | By the way, he is a Democrat, Democrat, Sheriff. | 顺便说一句,他是民主党人,民主党人,警长. |
| 292 | Maybe the county guys are a little scared | 也许郡里的人有点害怕 |
| 293 | because you said this, I'm quoting from, | 因为你这么说,我引用了... |
| 294 | it looks like the New York Times, | 看起来像纽约时报 |
| 295 | we all know you can trust them. | 我们都知道你能信任他们 |
| 296 | This is just, this is last month, May 25th. | 这只是,这是上个月,5月25日。 |
| 297 | You said, we have some counties | 你说我们有些郡 |
| 298 | that are renegade counties and work with ICE. | 那些是叛逆的县 并且与ICE合作。 |
| 299 | Maybe they're nervous of being called | 也许他们很紧张被人叫 |
| 300 | a renegade county by their governor. | 被他们的县长封为叛国县. |
| 301 | So the Democrat Sheriff says, | 所以民主党警长说, |
| 302 | we're not gonna keep the machete-wielding, | 我们不会继续砍刀的 |
| 303 | cop-choking, corrections officer, assaulting guy. | 选择警察 教官 攻击者 |
| 304 | We're not gonna keep him here for you to get here. | 我们不会把他留在这里让你来 |
| 305 | We can't even wait an hour and 18 minutes. | 我们甚至不能等待一个小时18分钟。 |
| 306 | Oh, you know what else was interesting in this case? | 你知道这案子还有什么有趣的吗? |
| 307 | You know what else was interesting? | 你知道还有什么有趣的吗? |
| 308 | There was actually an arrest warrant | 其实是有逮捕令的 |
| 309 | from United States District Court, | 美国地区法院, |
| 310 | Northern District of New York, | 纽约北区 |
| 311 | signed by Judge Wiley-Danks from Syracuse. | 由锡拉库兹的威利 -丹克斯法官签署 |
| 312 | There was an arrest warrant and they still couldn't keep him. | 有逮捕令,他们仍然无法留住他。 |
| 313 | The state of New York cooperates. | 纽约州合作。 |
| 314 | We cooperate in removal of individuals who've served time. | 我们合作驱赶那些已经服役的人 |
| 315 | We respond to detention. | 我们回应拘留。 |
| 316 | You're confusing, and maybe there's a lesson in civics | 你弄糊涂了 也许还有公民学的课 |
| 317 | that's necessary. I'm asking the question, okay, | 这是必要的。 我在问问题,好吗? |
| 318 | so would you say on the record, right here, | 你会在录音里说,就在这里, |
| 319 | I got 12 seconds, would you say on the record | 我有12秒,你能说在记录上 |
| 320 | was Thompson, Tompkins County wrong | 是汤普森,汤普金斯县错了 |
| 321 | in the actions they took on January 25th, 2025, | 在他们2025年1月25日的行动中 |
| 322 | when they wouldn't hold the guy for one hour and 18 minutes? | 当他们不会抱着他一个小时18分钟? |
| 323 | Was Thompson, Tompkins County wrong? | 汤普森,汤普金斯县错了吗? |
| 324 | Those are not the policies that we would have | 这些不是我们想要的政策 |
| 325 | in the state of New York. | 在纽约州 |
| 326 | Those are not the policies we would have in 18 days. | 这些不是我们在18天内应该采取的政策。 |
| 327 | Were they wrong? | 他们错了吗? |
| 328 | Should they have turned that guy over to ICE? | 他们应该把那家伙交给ICE吗? |
| 329 | It's a simple question, Governor. | 这是一个简单的问题,州长。 |
| 330 | That was a horrible situation. | 那是个可怕的情况。 |
| 331 | The person should not have been out there, and I'm, and- | 这个人不应该在那里, 而我,和 - |
| 332 | It's a horrible situation, but it's a yes or no question. | 这是一个可怕的情况,但它是一个是或没有问题。 |
| 333 | It is a, your response said this is a locality. | 这是,你的答复说 这是一个地方。 |
| 334 | Do you agree or disagree? | 你同意还是不同意? |
| 335 | In the state of New York- | 在纽约州... |
| 336 | Agree or disagree? | 同意还是不同意? |
| 337 | The person should have been held. | 此人本该被关押的 |
| 338 | Yes or no? | 是还是不是? |
| 339 | The person should have been held, | 此人本该被拘留的, |
| 340 | and in the state of New York, we would have turned him over. | 在纽约州 我们本来会把他翻过来的 |
| 341 | That is in conflict with what we would do | 这与我们所要做的冲突 |
| 342 | as a state with respect to prison. | 作为州对监狱。 |
| 343 | And I wanna know why ICE won't come and pick up | 我想知道为什么ICE不来接 |
| 344 | the individuals who have served time in our state. | 我们国家服务过的人 |
| 345 | I have cases where they have not even shown up. | 我有些案子他们还没出现 |
| 346 | Governor, a court order and a detainer | 总督、法院命令和拘留犯 |
| 347 | for a guy who did the things Mr. Hernandez did | 赫尔南德斯先生做过的事 |
| 348 | and Tompkins County can't hold him an hour and 18 minutes, | 汤普金斯县无法守住他一个小时18分钟 |
| 349 | and you won't say that's wrong? | 你不会说这是错的吧? |
| 350 | I have said we cooperate when there's a criminal case | 我说了如果有刑事案件我们合作 |
| 351 | where someone is committed a crime, we turn them over. | 如果有人犯罪了 我们就把他们翻过来 |
| 352 | This is sanctuary policy in a nutshell. | 简言之,这是庇护政策。 |
| 353 | You won't even condemn something that anyone | 你甚至不会谴责任何人 |
| 354 | with common sense knows is ridiculous. | 常识是荒谬的 |
| 355 | You're mischaracterizing- I had the facts here. | 你搞错了 我这里有事实 |
| 356 | Oh, can I do one other thing, Mr. Chairman? | 哦,我能做一件事吗,主席先生? |
| 357 | Now he's been rearrested, and guess what? | 现在他又被捕了 你猜怎么着? |
| 358 | This guy who's now been rearrested, | 现在被重新逮捕的这个人 |
| 359 | there is imminent danger that this inmate | 这个犯人有迫在眉睫的危险 |
| 360 | will do entry to himself and to others | 将进入自己和他人 |
| 361 | and presents a threat to safety, security, | 并对安全保障构成威胁, |
| 362 | and good order of the facility, | 和良好的设施, |
| 363 | so he's not permitted to leave his cell. | 所以他不能离开牢房 |
| 364 | So this guy is not even allowed out of his cell, | 所以这家伙甚至不准出牢房 |
| 365 | but they let him out on the street a few months ago. | 几个月前他们把他放出来 |
| 366 | That's how ridiculous this is. | 这太荒谬了 |
| 367 | When he does leave his cell, | 当他离开牢房时 |
| 368 | then we go back to his country under our orders. | 然后我们按照我们的命令回他的国家 |
| 369 | Chair recognizes Mr. Fumay, | 主席请富迈先生发言。 |
| 370 | and I'll give you an extra minute. | 我给你一分钟时间 |
| 371 | Mr. Chairman, I've got two unanimous consent requests | 主席先生,我有两个一致同意的请求 |
| 372 | that I hope would not count against my time. | 我希望不要浪费我的时间。 |
| 373 | Graciel Cortez from New York. | 来自纽约的格蕾西尔·科特斯 |
| 374 | All right, well, that was some kind of bingo | 好吧,那是某种宾果 |
| 375 | going on over there. | 那边继续 |
| 376 | I don't know what's going on anyways. | 反正我也不知道发生了什么 |
| 377 | Oh, I know what's going on. | 哦,我知道发生了什么。 |
| 378 | So thank you to the witnesses for coming here today. | 所以感谢各位证人今天来到这里。 |
| 379 | I apologize for the treatment that the three of you, | 我为你们三人的遭遇道歉 |
| 380 | four of you have been subjected to. | 四个人被折磨过 |
| 381 | And Governor Walz, I just have to say, | 还有州长沃尔兹,我必须说, |
| 382 | I know you're getting a lot of grief from the majority here, | 我知道你从这里的多数人那里得到很多悲伤, |
| 383 | but we are talking about individuals | 但我们是在谈论个人 |
| 384 | who have cheered on in, | 他们在里面欢呼, |
| 385 | individual who issued a Nazi salute | 向纳粹致敬的人 |
| 386 | from behind the presidential seal | 从总统印章背后 |
| 387 | of the United States of America, | 美利坚合众国, |
| 388 | who have cheered on the pardoning of individuals | 他们为赦免个人而欢呼, |
| 389 | who attacked the United States Capitol | 他们袭击了美国首都 |
| 390 | and flew a Nazi flag and the flag of the Confederacy, | 并悬挂纳粹旗帜和邦联旗帜, |
| 391 | traitors to the United States, | 叛国者美国, |
| 392 | sworn enemies of the United States of America | 美利坚合众国的敌人 |
| 393 | through the capital of this nation. | 穿过这个国家的首都 |
| 394 | And now they wanna act offended | 现在他们想出丑 |
| 395 | because someone has the courage to say | 因为有人有勇气说 |
| 396 | if it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck, | 如果它像鸭子一样走路 说话像鸭子 |
| 397 | maybe it's a duck. | 也许是只鸭子 |
| 398 | So I want to thank you for not wavering to their bullying, | 所以我想感谢你没有动摇 他们欺负, |
| 399 | which is unconscionable and sad to see. | 这不合理 和悲伤的看到。 |
| 400 | So I just wanted to let you know that Governor, thank you. | 所以我想告诉你那个州长 谢谢 |
| 401 | Thank you, Congresswoman. | 谢谢你 议员女士 |
| 402 | So the three of you, Governor Walz, Governor Pritzker, | 你们三人 瓦尔兹州长 普里茨克州长 |
| 403 | and Governor Hokel, you three have each sworn in oath | 霍克尔州长,你们三人各宣誓 |
| 404 | to uphold and defend | 维护和捍卫 |
| 405 | the Constitution of the United States of America, correct? | 美利坚合众国宪法,对不对? |
| 406 | I'll start with you. | 我从你开始 |
| 407 | Yes. | 对 |
| 408 | Yes, ma'am. | 是,长官 |
| 409 | Yes, I have. | 是的,我见过。 |
| 410 | And I imagine that also includes | 我想这也包括了 |
| 411 | the Fourth and Fifth Amendment protections | 第四和第五修正案的保护 |
| 412 | for due process and the rule of law. | 尊重正当程序和法治。 |
| 413 | It does. | 没错 |
| 414 | Sure does. | 当然 |
| 415 | Yes. | 对 |
| 416 | And that means protecting your people in your states, | 这意味着要保护你们各州的人民 |
| 417 | U.S. citizens and every individual, | 美国公民和每个人, |
| 418 | because that is what makes America great, | 因为这就是美国之所以伟大的原因 |
| 419 | that we are a land of the free and of rule of law | 我们是一个自由和法治的国家 |
| 420 | to protect them from infringements | 保护他们不受侵犯 |
| 421 | of their civil liberties, correct? | 他们的公民自由,对不对? |
| 422 | Now, what we are seeing is a pattern | 现在,我们看到的是一个模式 |
| 423 | where ICE is breaking the law. | ICE正在违法的地方 |
| 424 | We have the detention of a U.S. citizen | 我们拘留了一个美国公民 |
| 425 | who has been detained by immigration officials. | 被移民官员拘留。 |
| 426 | We have ICE here that has also blamed | 我们这里有ICE 也责怪 |
| 427 | and arrested U.S. citizens | 和被捕的美国公民 |
| 428 | for being simply suspected of being an immigrant, | 仅仅因为被怀疑是移民, |
| 429 | largely because of their appearance. | 主要是因为他们的外表。 |
| 430 | In January, a Chicago-based U.S.-born citizen, | 1月,芝加哥出生的美国公民 |
| 431 | Julio Noriega, 被ICE逮捕, | |
| 432 | and held in custody for over 10 hours. | 并被关押了十多小时。 |
| 433 | In April, a Florida Highway Patrol officer | 4月,佛罗里达州高速公路巡警 |
| 434 | pulled over Juan Carlos Lopez Gomez, | 截住胡安·卡洛斯·洛佩兹·戈麦斯 |
| 435 | a United States-born citizen, | 出生于美国的公民, |
| 436 | and arrested him on suspicion | 并逮捕了他 怀疑 |
| 437 | of being in the country illegally. | 非法入境。 |
| 438 | He had his real ID, his Social Security card, | 他有他真正的身份证,他的社会保障卡, |
| 439 | his mother presented his birth certificate, | 他的母亲提交了他的出生证明, |
| 440 | and they still didn't let him go. | 他们还是不让他走 |
| 441 | In May, U.S. citizen Leonardo Garcia Venegas | 5月,美国公民莱昂纳多·加西亚·维内加斯 |
| 442 | was filming an ICE raid. | 正在拍摄一个ICE突袭。 |
| 443 | He was arrested by ICE. | 他被ICE逮捕. |
| 444 | In May, a veteran and U.S. citizen | 五月,一名老兵和美国公民 |
| 445 | who is Puerto Rican, Puerto Rican, | 波多黎各人 波多黎各人 |
| 446 | was detained during an ICE raid | 在ICE突袭期间被拘留 |
| 447 | at his workplace in New York City. | 他在纽约的工作场所 |
| 448 | That's called a paper bag test. | 这叫纸袋测试 |
| 449 | And your job, Governor Hockel, | 还有你的工作,霍克尔州长 |
| 450 | is to protect people from that kind of infringement, correct? | 保护人们免受这种侵害 对吧? |
| 451 | Yes. | 对 |
| 452 | Because all of us must adhere to the law, | 因为我们大家都必须遵守法律 |
| 453 | and no one is above it. | 没有人能超越它 |
| 454 | So if a U.S. citizen tries to break the law, | 所以如果一个美国公民试图违法 |
| 455 | or if an ICE officer tries to break the law, | 或者如果一个ICE官员试图违法, |
| 456 | your job is to uphold the law, correct? | 你的工作是维护法律 对吧? |
| 457 | We absolutely uphold the laws | 我们绝对坚持法律 |
| 458 | of the United States Constitution | 美国宪法 |
| 459 | and the Constitution of the State of New York. | 《纽约州宪法》。 |
| 460 | And sanctuary states are about U.S. citizens as well | 而庇护国也涉及美国公民 |
| 461 | having sanctuary against the attacks | * 防范攻击 |
| 462 | on our constitutional rights from illegal search and seizure. | 我们的宪法权利 非法搜查和扣押。 |
| 463 | There is nothing preventing ICE from issuing a warrant | 没有任何东西阻止 ICE发布逮捕令 |
| 464 | and you having complete compliance with their request. | 你完全遵守了他们的要求 |
| 465 | Correct, Governor Hockel? | 对吗,霍克尔州长? |
| 466 | We comply in cases | 我们遵守的情况 |
| 467 | where there's been a criminal activity alleged. | 被指有犯罪活动的地方 |
| 468 | Yes, we always do. | 是的,我们总是这样。 |
| 469 | But we're not involved in civil immigration enforcement | 但我们没有参与民事移民执法 |
| 470 | because our state police that I control | 因为我控制的州警 |
| 471 | have to deal with other crimes that they're solving. | 必须处理他们正在解决的其他罪行。 |
| 472 | And apologies, I just have 10 seconds left. | 对不起,我还有10秒 |
| 473 | But when they say illegal versus legal immigration, | 但当他们说非法和合法移民 |
| 474 | they are trying to end legal status | 他们试图结束法律地位 |
| 475 | 也在美国,对,州长Pritzker, | |
| 476 | with the end of TPS and making people undocumented | 结束TPS 并使人们无证 |
| 477 | by removing legal status, ending legal status, | 通过取消法律地位,结束法律地位, |
| 478 | and then having the audacity to call them illegal | 然后大胆地称他们为非法 |
| 479 | when they were here documented, correct? | 当他们在这里记录,对不对? |
| 480 | Taking students' visas away from people, | 把学生的签证从人身上拿走, |
| 481 | taking their legal right to be in the United States | 拥有在美国的合法权利 |
| 482 | away from them when they've been granted | 离开他们,当他们得到许可 |
| 483 | maybe years earlier to stay. | 也许多年前就留下来了 |
| 484 | So I don't want to hear about how this is about | 所以,我不想听 如何这是关于 |
| 485 | illegal versus legal immigration. | 非法移民与合法移民 |
| 486 | They are attacking legal status and removing legal status. | 他们正在攻击法律地位并取消法律地位。 |
| 487 | The Republican majority is anti-legal immigration | 共和党多数是反合法移民 |
| 488 | in the United States, and I want to make that very clear, | 在美国 我想说清楚 |
| 489 | and I yield back. | 我放弃。 |
| 490 | Chair now recognizes... | 现在主席确认... |
| 491 | Mr. | 劳伦斯先生 |
| 492 | Chair, unanimous consent request. | 主席,一致同意请求。 |
| 493 | Unanimous consent request to the record, a NBC article. | 对记录的一致同意请求,NBC文章。 |
| 494 | Senator Alex Padilla removed from news conference | 亚历克斯·帕迪拉参议员被取消出席记者会 |
| 495 | with Homeland Security Secretary Noem. | 与国土安全部长诺姆。 |
| 496 | All right, without objection to order. | 好吧,没有反对秩序。 |
| 497 | I have another one on the Hill article, | 我还有一个关于希尔的文章, |
| 498 | Padilla forcibly removed from Noem press conference. | 帕迪拉被强行从诺埃姆记者招待会上带走. |
| 499 | Without objection to order. | 不反对秩序。 |
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