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实战练英文 | 泽连斯基会被特朗普霸凌，所以欧洲多国领袖陪他

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0:00Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky and other European leaders are heading to Washington乌克兰总统沃洛季米尔·泽连斯基和其他欧洲领导人前往华盛顿
0:05Monday to meet with President Trump to discuss next steps following Mr. Trump's meeting周一会见特朗普总统,讨论特朗普会晤后的下一步
0:11with Vladimir Putin.与弗拉基米尔·普京.
0:12The awkward conclusion to Friday's summit yielded no formal agreement, with Vladimir周五峰会的尴尬结局没有与弗拉基米尔达成正式协议
0:17Putin still insisting that Ukraine turn over the lands seized by Russia in the war, plus普京仍然坚持乌克兰交出俄罗斯在战争中夺取的土地,
0:23additional territory, something that President Zelensky continues to refuse.泽连斯基总统继续拒绝增加领土。
0:27We begin with Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who attended those talks in Anchorage.我们首先从马科·鲁比奥国务卿开始,他参加了在安克雷奇举行的这些会谈。
0:32Good morning to you, Mr. Secretary.早上好,部长先生
0:35Good morning.早上好,你好吗?
0:36Thank you.谢谢
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1Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky and other European leaders are heading to Washington乌克兰总统沃洛季米尔·泽连斯基和其他欧洲领导人前往华盛顿
2Monday to meet with President Trump to discuss next steps following Mr. Trump's meeting周一会见特朗普总统,讨论特朗普会晤后的下一步
3with Vladimir Putin.与弗拉基米尔·普京.
4The awkward conclusion to Friday's summit yielded no formal agreement, with Vladimir周五峰会的尴尬结局没有与弗拉基米尔达成正式协议
5Putin still insisting that Ukraine turn over the lands seized by Russia in the war, plus普京仍然坚持乌克兰交出俄罗斯在战争中夺取的土地,
6additional territory, something that President Zelensky continues to refuse.泽连斯基总统继续拒绝增加领土。
7We begin with Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who attended those talks in Anchorage.我们首先从马科·鲁比奥国务卿开始,他参加了在安克雷奇举行的这些会谈。
8Good morning to you, Mr. Secretary.早上好,部长先生
9Good morning.早上好,你好吗?
10Thank you.谢谢
11Vladimir Putin did not give President Trump the ceasefire he sought, and now Putin says弗拉基米尔·普京没有给予川普总统他寻求的停火,现在普京说
12the root causes of the conflict have to be resolved in a peace agreement.必须在和平协定中解决冲突的根源。
13Isn't the root cause the fact that Russia invaded in the first place?根本原因难道不是俄国首先入侵的事实吗?
14Well, ultimately, yeah.嗯,最终,是的。
15But I mean, what he means by root causes is his long historical complaints that we've但是,他所说的根本原因 是他长期的历史抱怨,我们
16heard repeatedly.屡次听到
17This is not a new argument.这不是一个新论点。
18He's been making this for a long time, and it's the argument that it's Western encroachment.他作此作已久,乃论其西侵.
19I don't want to get into it.不欲入内.
20It's just so long.它只是这么长。
21But the bottom line is that we're not going to focus on all of that stuff.但底线是,我们不会专注于所有的东西。
22We're going to focus on this.我们要专注于这个。
23Are they going to stop fighting or not?他们是否要停止战斗?
24And what it's going to take to stop the fighting.及欲以何为止战.
25And what it's going to take to stop the fighting, if we're being honest and serious here, is如果我们是诚实和严肃的, 停止战斗需要什么
26both sides are going to have to give, and both sides should expect to get something双方都得付出 双方都应该有所收获
27from this.从这个。
28And that's a very difficult thing to do.这很难做
29It's very difficult because Ukraine obviously feels harmed, and rightfully so, because这很困难 因为乌克兰显然感到受了伤害 而且很正确
30they were invaded.他们被入侵。
31And the Russian side, because they feel like they've got momentum in the battlefield, and而俄国方面,因为他们觉得他们在战场上有势头,
32frankly don't care, don't seem to care very much about how many Russian soldiers die in坦白地说,你不在乎 多少俄国士兵死了
33this endeavor.这一努力。
34They just churn through it.他们只是穿透它。
35So I think what the president deserves a lot of credit for is the amount of time and energy所以我觉得总统值得称赞的 是时间和精力
36that his administration is placing on reaching a peace agreement for a war that's not a war他的政府正致力于达成和平协议 以进行一场不是战争的战争
37that started under him.从他身上开始的
38It's half, you know, it's on the other side of the world.其半,知之,则天下之别也.
39That said, I mean, it's relevant to us, but there are a lot of other issues you can be这么说,我的意思是,它与我们有关, 但有很多其他的问题 你可以
40focused on.专注于。
41So tomorrow we'll be meeting with President Zelensky.所以明天我们要去见泽连斯基总统
42We'll be meeting with European leaders.我们将会见欧洲领导人。
43We just met with Putin.我们刚见了普京
44He's dedicated a lot of time and energy because he has made it a priority of his administration他投入了大量的时间和精力 因为他已经把它作为他的政府的优先事项
45to stop wars or prevent them.阻止战争或阻止战争。
46And right now this is the biggest war going on in the world.现在,这是世界上最大的战争。
47It's the biggest war in Europe since World War II.这是二战以来欧洲最大的战争.
48We're going to continue to do everything we can to reach an agreement that ends the dying我们要继续尽我们所能 达成结束死亡的协议
49and the killing and the suffering that's going on right now.而杀戮和痛苦 正在发生。
50Well, you know this well, how long these kind of diplomatic negotiations often take.你很清楚 这种外交谈判需要多长时间
51President Trump was telling European leaders what was discussed was Putin demanding control特朗普总统告诉欧洲领导人 讨论的是普京要求控制
52of Donetsk, a region in the east that his forces do not fully hold.在顿涅茨克,一个地区 在东部,他的部队没有完全控制。
53And the UK estimates that taking that full area could be as long as another four years.英国估计 占用整个面积 可能长达四年。
54Putin also is demanding Russian be an official language in Ukraine and something regarding普京还要求俄语成为乌克兰的官方语言,
55Russian Orthodox churches.俄罗斯正教会.
56Did the US accept all of what Putin laid out at that table?美国是否接受了普京在那张桌子上的所有规定?
57The United States is not in a position to accept anything or reject anything because美国无法接受任何东西或拒绝任何东西,因为
58ultimately it's up to the Ukrainians.归根结底是乌克兰人
59They're the ones that Russia has to make peace with.俄国必须和他们和解
60Well, the president said he did come to some agreements.总统说他确实达成了一些协议
61It's up to the Ukrainians to make these conditions.由乌克兰人来创造这些条件.
62Well, the agreements were that we were going to try to do things like, for example, get好吧,协议是,我们将尝试 做一些事情,例如,获得
63a leader, a leaders meeting.一个领袖,一个领袖会议。
64We have to make enough progress so that we can sit down President Zelensky and President我们必须取得足够的进展,以便能够坐下来坐泽连斯基总统和总统
65Putin in the same place, which is what President Zelensky has been asking for, and reach a普京在同一地点,这就是泽连斯基总统一直要求的,并达到
66final agreement that ends this war.结束这场战争的最后协议
67Now, there were some concepts and ideas discussed that we know the Ukrainians can be very supportive现在,有一些概念和想法讨论 我们知道乌克兰人可以非常支持
68of in that meeting.在那次会议上
69I don't think it's...我不觉得...
70We're not going to negotiate this in the media.我们不会在媒体上谈这个
71I understand that everybody wants to know what happened, but ultimately there are things我知道每个人都想知道发生了什么 但最终还是有些事情
72that were discussed as part of this meeting that are potentials for breakthroughs, that作为本次会议的一部分而讨论的具有突破潜力的,
73are potentials for progress.它们是取得进展的潜力。
74We'll be discussing that more in depth tomorrow with our European allies, with the Ukrainians我们明天会和我们的欧洲盟友 乌克兰人更深入地讨论这个问题
75that are coming over.来了
76We'll be discussing all of these things because ultimately we do need to find areas where我们将讨论所有这些事情 因为最终我们需要找到一些地方
77we're making progress and try to begin to, you know, narrow the gap between the two sides.我们正在取得进展,并努力缩小双方之间的差距。
78But there's a reason why this war has been going on for three and a half years.但这场战争持续了三年半是有原因的.
79And that is when it comes to the big issues here, there are still some big differences而当它涉及到 这里的大问题, 仍然有一些巨大的分歧
80between both sides.两边之间。
81Let's see how much progress we can continue to make.让我们看看我们能继续取得多大进展。
82It's not been easy, but it's something the president's made a priority, peace, and he并不容易,但这是 总统的优先考虑,和平,他
83deserves a lot of credit for that.值得高度评价
84But ultimately, if Vladimir Putin is going to be offered land that he has not seized但最终,如果弗拉基米尔·普京 能得到他没有没收的土地
85yet, but negotiates his way into, doesn't this set a dangerous precedent that the United但是,但谈判他的方式, 这难道不构成一个危险的先例,
86States now accepts this concept that it is okay to seize land by force?各国现在接受这一概念,即以武力夺取土地是可行的?
87Well, Putin's already seized land by force, and that in and of itself is not a positive普京已经用武力夺取了土地 而这本身并不是积极的
88precedent.先例。
89This whole war is a negative precedent.这整场战争是一个负面的先例.
90Are you demanding a withdrawal?你要求撤资?
91Well, again, in order to have a deal here to reach the end of this conflict, both sides再说一遍 为了达成结束这场冲突的协议 双方
92are going to have to make concessions.必须做出让步
93But does that mean accepting where Russian forces are now?但这是否意味着接受俄罗斯军队现在的位置?
94But this is not about accepting.但这不是接受
95This is about what Ukraine can accept and what Russia can accept.这就是乌克兰能够接受什么,俄罗斯能够接受什么。
96They both have to accept it, otherwise there won't be a peace deal.他们都要接受 否则就不会有和约
97If there aren't concessions, if one side gets everything they want that's called surrender,如果没有让步的话 如果一方得到他们想要的一切 那就是投降
98that's called the end of the war through surrender, and that's not what we're close to doing because这叫做通过投降结束战争, 而这不是我们接近做的,因为
99neither side here is on the verge of surrender or anything close to it.这里的任何一方都濒临投降或任何接近它的东西.
100So in order for there to be a peace deal, this is just a fact.所以为了达成和约 这只是个事实
101We may not like it, it may not be pleasant, it may be distasteful, but in order for there我们可能不喜欢它, 它可能不愉快, 它可能令人厌恶, 但为了那里
102to be an end of the war, there are things Russia wants that it cannot get, and there要结束战争,有的东西 俄罗斯想要它不能得到,在那里
103are things Ukraine wants that it's not going to get.是乌克兰想要的东西 它不会得到。
104Both sides are going to have to give up something in order to get to the table, in order to双方必须放弃一些东西 才能坐到桌子上
105make this happen.让这一切发生。
106That's just the way it is.师便打曰.
107And the sooner we accept that, that's the reality.而我们越早接受,这就是现实。
108Now, what those things are is going to be up to both sides.现在,那些东西要由双方决定。
109There's no conditions that can be imposed on Ukraine.无法对乌克兰强加任何条件.
110They're going to have to accept things, but they're going to have to get things too.他们必须接受一些东西,但他们也必须得到一些东西.
111And so, for example, Ukraine is a sovereign country.例如,乌克兰是一个主权国家。
112They have a right, like every sovereign country does in the world, to have the enter into他们有权利像世界上每个主权国家一样 进入
113security alliances with other countries to prevent an invasion in the future, to prevent与其他国家建立安全联盟,以防止今后发生入侵,防止
114threats to the national security.威胁国家安全。
115That's not an unreasonable request.这不是一个不合理的要求。
116That's something that needs to be worked on.这是需要努力的。
117Territories will have to be discussed.必须讨论领土问题。
118It's just a fact, and there are things that maybe Russia's holding now that they're going这只是一个事实, 有些东西 也许俄罗斯持有 现在,他们去
119to have to give up.不得不放弃
120Who knows?谁知道呢?
121The point is, we need to create a scenario where that becomes possible, and that's why关键是,我们需要创造出一个可能实现的情景,这就是为什么
122this has been so hard, because neither side up to now has been willing to give on some这太难了 因为到目前为止 双方都不愿意给一些
123of these things.这些东西。
124But we'll see if that's possible.但我们会看看这是否可能。
125It may not be, but we're going to try, and we're going to do everything we can to try可能不是 但我们会尽力的 我们会尽力的
126to achieve a peace.实现和平。
127Well, I understand you can't get into specifics in a public conversation, but we're looking我知道你不能在公开谈话中 说出细节 但我们在寻找
128at Russian troops and strikes intensifying.攻击俄国军队 并猛烈打击
129Did you hear anything from Vladimir Putin that indicated he is willing to make a single你从弗拉基米尔·普京那里听到什么 表明他愿意做一个单身
130concession?让步?
131Well, I think there are a couple, I mean, there were not enough for Ukraine.我想有一对夫妇 不够乌克兰使用
132If not, we would be announcing a peace deal this morning, right?如果不是,我们今天上午会宣布和约,对吧?
133But certainly there are some things we notice changes.但肯定有些事情我们注意到了变化。
134There are some changes that I think are possible.我认为有些变化是可能的。
135I think there's some concepts that were discussed that could potentially lead to something.我认为,有些概念被讨论过,有可能导致某些东西。
136But again, all these things have to be verifiable.但是,所有这些事情都必须可以核实。
137It isn't real until it's real.以真如为前非真如.
138One thing is what you say you might be willing to consider, another thing is your willingness有件事你说你可能愿意考虑 另一件事就是你的意愿
139to do it, and it always becomes a trade-off in all of this.做它, 它总是成为一个权衡 这一切。
140But you talk about the intensifying strikes on the Russian side, yeah, they're a full-time但你说到俄方的猛烈打击 是的,他们是全职的
141war machine.战争机器
142I mean, that's what's happening.我的意思是,这就是发生。
143The Russian economy's basically been turned into a full-time wartime economy.俄罗斯经济基本转变为战时全职经济.
144They have a lot of people.他们有很多人。
145It's a big country.国大.
146It's not just large geographically.不仅在地理上很大
147It has huge populations.人口众多。
148It continues to churn through people.它继续影响着人们。
149You know, they lost 20,000 Russian soldiers were killed last month in July in this war.他们上个月在这场战争中 损失了两万俄罗斯士兵
150That just tells you the price they're willing to pay.这说明他们愿意付出的代价
151Not saying any of this is admirable.不说这些都是令人钦佩的
152I'm saying that this is the reality of the war that we're facing.我是说,这就是我们面临的战争的现实.
153It's become attrition in some ways.它在某些方面变成了自然减员。
154It's a meat grinder, and they just have more meat to grind.这是一个肉磨机, 他们只是有更多的肉要磨。
155Well, let me ask you about the security that you just mentioned there, because Italy's好吧,让我问你 你刚才提到的保安,因为意大利
156prime minister says that President Trump revived the idea of security guarantees inspired by总理说,特朗普总统恢复了安全保障思想,
157NATO's Article 5 and a collective security clause that would involve the United States.北约第5条和涉及美国的集体安全条款。
158How does that work?怎么会这样?
159Are these U.S. troops?这些是美军吗?
160Are these U.S. monitors?这些是美国监视器吗?
161Well, that's what we're going to be working on.这就是我们要做的
162That's one of the reasons why.这是原因之一。
163You know, I talked yesterday to all the national security advisors, a bunch of them from the昨天我和国家安全顾问谈过了 一群来自
164different European countries, there are European leaders coming here tomorrow, heads of state不同的欧洲国家, 明天有欧洲领导人来到这里, 国家元首
165coming tomorrow, along with President Zelensky, to discuss this in more detail.明天会和泽连斯基总统一起 详细讨论这个问题
166The constructs of something like this needs to be built out.类似东西的构造需要建立起来.
167Concept is one thing, how it's built and how it would work is another.概念是一回事,它是如何构建的,它会如何运作是另一回事。
168But those are the kinds of talks that we're going to be having with them, along with some但是,这些是各种会谈, 我们将与他们进行, 以及一些
169of the other issues that are at play.其他问题。
170If you were to break this thing down, obviously there needs to be an agreement on territories如果你要打破这个东西, 显然需要有一个协议 关于领土
171and where the lines are going to be drawn.以及线的绘制地点。
172That's not going to be very easy.这可不容易
173That's going to be tough.这将是艰难的。
174I think there has to be some discussion about security guarantees for Ukraine, because none我认为,必须讨论乌克兰的安全保障问题,因为没有
175of us want to see this war in the future.我们想看到这场战争的未来。
176They're a sovereign country.他们是一个主权国家。
177They have a right to have security agreements with other countries and security alliances他们有权与其他国家签订安全协议和安全联盟.
178with other countries.与其他国家。
179And then there's the whole issue of reconstruction.然后是重建的整个问题。
180How do you rebuild the country?你怎么重建国家?
181Well, potentially, like I said, that's what we're going to be having a conversation about.嗯,有潜力,就像我说过的, 这就是我们要谈的。
182And that's why they're all coming here tomorrow, and that's why we've been talking on the phone所以明天他们都会来 所以我们一直在打电话
183for the last 48 hours with them.和他们在一起48小时
184And even leading up to it, throughout the week, there were various meetings just to整个星期里 都召开了各种会议
185sort of build out some of these ideas.某种程度上建立一些这些想法。
186So all of these right now are ideas, they're concepts that require some more specificity.所以现在所有这些都是一些想法, 它们需要一些更具体的概念。
187We'll need to work with our partners to see what that looks like.我们需要和我们的伙伴们合作 看看这看起来像什么
188And I think that's an area where potential progress is real.我认为这是一个有可能取得进展的领域。
189But that alone won't be enough.但光这样还不够
190There's a bunch of other things that have to be worked through here.这里还有一堆其他事情要解决
191Yeah.对
192Well, Russia claims it has rescued 700,000 children.俄罗斯声称它拯救了70万儿童
193I know you know that the warrant out for Vladimir Putin's arrest is for the state-sponsored我知道你知道逮捕弗拉基米尔·普京的逮捕令 是针对国家赞助的
194of kids.孩子们
195I've seen estimates there are something like 30,000 Ukrainian children who have been abducted.估计有三万乌克兰儿童被绑架
196Is the United States demanding, or at least even just as a statement of goodwill here,美国是要求,至少是作为善意声明,
197that Russia return these children?俄国把孩子们送回去?
198Yeah.对
199I mean, we've repeatedly raised that issue in every form possible, and those have also我的意思是,我们已经多次提出 这个问题的每一种可能的形式, 和那些也
200been, by the way, topics of discussion, not just in our meetings with the Ukrainians,顺便提一下,讨论的议题,不只是我们与乌克兰人的会晤,
201but in the negotiations and talks that were going on between Ukraine and Russia.但是在乌克兰和俄罗斯之间的谈判和会谈中
202At the technical level, these talks were going on in Turkey as an example.在技术层面,这些会谈正在土耳其进行,例如:
203Turkey over the last few months.过去几个月土耳其的情况。
204Nothing so far from the Russians.俄而至今无事.
205That's been a topic of discussion as well.这也是讨论的主题。
206Well, it's unfortunate.嗯,这是不幸的。
207Children should be returned to their families.儿童应被送回家庭。
208On that position, I don't think there's any ambiguity on our side.在那个位置上,我认为我们这边没有任何模糊之处.
209And they shouldn't even be a bargaining chip in regards to a broader negotiation.他们甚至不应该成为一个谈判的筹码 对于更广泛的谈判。
210But it's just one more element of how tragic this war is.但这仅仅是战争多么悲惨的一个因素.
211After three and a half years, this war is getting worse.经过三年半,这场战争愈演愈烈.
212It's not getting better.亦无增益.
213You've made the point about the uptick in strikes.你已经说清楚了 罢工中的上升。
214This is a war.这是一场战争。
215It's going to get worse.将愈.
216It's not going to get better.终不增益.
217And that's why the president is investing so much time in bringing this to an end.这就是为什么总统花这么多时间来结束这一切。
218And by the way, everyone is begging us to be involved in this.顺便说一句,大家都在求我们参与其中
219The Europeans want us involved, the Ukrainians want us involved, obviously the Russians want欧洲人希望我们参与 乌克兰人希望我们参与 显然俄罗斯人希望
220us involved because the president is the only leader in the world.因为总统是世界上唯一的领袖
221If this is possible, he's the only one that can help make it happen.如果这有可能,他是唯一能帮助它实现的人.
222Well, he's got the leverage over Vladimir Putin if he wanted to crush his economy or他对弗拉基米尔·普京有影响力 如果他想摧毁他的经济
223at least do more damage to it.至少对它造成更多的伤害。
224But you have held off on those secondary sanctions.但你却坚持了二级制裁
225President Trump told Fox News his advice to President Zelensky is make a deal.特朗普总统告诉福克斯新闻公司,他向泽连斯基总统的建议正在做交易.
226Russia's a very big power and they're not.俄国是一个大国,他们不是。
227You know there is concern from the Europeans that President Zelensky is going to be bullied你知道欧洲人担心 泽连斯基总统会被欺负
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229That's why you have these European leaders coming as backup tomorrow.这就是为什么你让这些欧洲领导人 明天来作为后援。
230Can you reassure them?你能让他们放心吗?
231No, it isn't.不,这不是。
232That's not why they're coming as backup.这不是他们来作为后援的原因.
233That's not true.这不是真的。
234No, but that's not why.不,但这不是为什么。
235That's not true.这不是真的。
236They're not coming here tomorrow to keep Zelensky from being bullied.他们明天不会来阻止泽伦斯基被欺负
237That February Oval Office meeting in front of television cameras where President Zelensky2月在总统泽连斯基的电视摄像机前的奥瓦尔办公室会议
238Do you know how many meetings we've had since then?你知道从那时起我们开过几次会吗?
239Oh, no, I know and I was just up in Alaska watching the one with Vladimir Putin where哦,不,我知道,我刚在阿拉斯加 看一个与弗拉基米尔・普京
240red carpet rolls rolled out for the Russian leader.红色的地毯卷 为俄罗斯领导人推出。
241No, but with Zelensky.不,但与泽连斯基。
242It was very different.这是非常不同的。
243We've had more meetings.我们有更多的会议。
244We've had one meeting with Putin and like a dozen meetings with Zelensky.我们和普京开过一次会 和泽连斯基开了十几次会
245But that's not true.但事实并非如此。
246They're not coming here tomorrow to keep Zelensky from being bullied.他们明天不会来阻止泽伦斯基被欺负
247They're coming here tomorrow because we've been working with the Europeans.他们明天会来这里,因为我们一直与欧洲人合作.
248We talked to them last week.我们上周和他们谈过了
249There were meetings in the UK over the previous weekend.上个周末,在联合王国举行了会议。
250And they said President Trump was going to demand a ceasefire.他们说特朗普总统会要求停火.
251As early as Thursday.早在星期四的时候
252But you said that they're coming here tomorrow to keep Zelensky from being bullied.但你说他们明天会来这里 不让泽伦斯基被欺负
253They're not coming here tomorrow.他们明天不会来这里的
254This is such a stupid media narrative that they're coming here tomorrow because Trump他们明天会来这里 因为特朗普
255is going to bully Zelensky into a bad deal.打算欺负泽伦斯基做坏交易
256We've been working with these people for weeks, for weeks on this stuff.我们和这些人一起工作了几周 和他们一起工作几周
257They're coming here tomorrow because they chose to come here tomorrow.他们明天会来这里 因为他们选择明天来这里
258We invited them to come.我们邀请他们来
259The president invited them to come.总统邀请他们来
260But the president told those European leaders last week that he wanted a ceasefire.但总统上周告诉欧洲领导人,他想要停火。
261The president went on television, said he would walk out of the meeting if Vladimir总统上电视说,如果弗拉基米尔,他会走出会议
262Putin didn't agree with them.普京不同意他们的意见.
263He said there would be severe consequences if he didn't agree to one.他说如果不同意的话,后果会很严重.
264He said he'd walk out in two minutes.他说两分钟后就走人
265He spent three hours talking to Vladimir Putin and he did not get one.他花了三个小时与弗拉基米尔·普京交谈,他没有得到一个.
266So there's some mixed messages.因此,有一些混合的信息。
267Because obviously something, things happened during that meeting.因为显然, 事情发生了 在会议期间。
268Well, because obviously things, look, our goal here is not to stage some production嗯,因为很明显的事情, 你看,我们在这里的目标 不是进行一些生产
269for the world to say, oh, how dramatic, he walked out.这个世界说,哦,多么戏剧化, 他走了出去。
270Our goal here is to have a peace agreement, to end this war, okay?我们的目标是达成和平协议,结束这场战争,好吗?
271And obviously we felt and I agreed that there was enough progress, not a lot of progress,显然,我们觉得,我同意 有足够的进展,没有太多的进展,
272but enough progress made in those talks to allow us to move to the next phase.但这些会谈取得了足够的进展,使我们能够进入下一阶段。
273If not, we wouldn't be having Zelensky flying all the way over here.如果不是的话 我们就不会让泽伦斯基一路飞过来了
274We wouldn't be having all the Europeans coming all the way over here.我们不会让所有欧洲人一路过来的
275Now understand and take with a grain of salt, I'm not saying we're on the verge of a peace现在理解并带走一粒盐, 我不是说我们处于和平的边缘
276deal, but I am saying that we saw movement, enough movement to justify a follow-up meeting但是,我说,我们看到了运动, 足够的运动,以证明举行后续会议是正当的
277with Zelensky and the Europeans, enough movement for us to dedicate even more time to this.与泽连斯基和欧洲人, 足够的运动,让我们 将更多的时间用于这个。
278You talk about the sanctions.你谈论制裁。
279Look, at the end of the day, if peace is not going to be possible here and this is just你看,在一天结束时, 如果和平是不可能在这里 而且这只是
280going to continue on as a war, people will continue to die by the thousands.作为战争的延续,人们会继续被数千人杀死。
281The president has that option to then come in and impose new sanctions.总统有这个选择,然后进来实施新的制裁。
282But if he did this now, the moment the president puts those additional sanctions, that's the但是,如果他现在这样做, 当总统提出这些额外的制裁,这就是
283end of the talks.会谈结束。
284You've basically locked in at least another year to year and a half of war and death and你基本上已经锁定至少 一年半的战争和死亡,
285destruction.销毁。
286We may unfortunately wind up there, but we don't want to wind up there.我们可能不幸地走到那里 但我们不想走到那里
287We want to wind up with a peace deal that ends this war so Ukraine can go on with the我们想达成和平协议 结束这场战争 这样乌克兰就可以继续
288rest of their lives and rebuild their country and be assured that this is never going to他们的余生和重建他们的国家,并且得到保证,这永远不会
289happen again.再来一次
290That's the goal here.这是这里的目标。
291We're going to do everything possible to make that happen if it's doable.我们要尽一切可能 如果可行的话
292It will require both sides to make concessions.这将要求双方作出让步。
293It will require both sides to get things they're asking for.这需要双方获得他们想要的东西.
294That's how these deals are made, whether we like it or not.无论我们喜不喜欢,这些交易都是这样做的.
295Before I let you go quickly, why did the State Department just announce that they're在我让你走之前 为什么国务院刚刚宣布他们是
296holding visitor visas for all Gazans coming here for medical aid?是否为来此就医的所有加沙人持有访客签证?
297Why would some of these kids, for example, who are coming to hospitals for treatment为什么这些孩子,比如说, 他们来医院治疗
298be a threat?是个威胁?
299Well, first of all, it's not just kids.首先,不仅仅是孩子
300It's a bunch of adults that are accompanying them.是一群大人陪伴着他们
301Second, we had outreach from multiple congressional offices asking questions about it.第二,我们得到了多个国会办公室的外联 询问这个问题。
302And so we're going to reevaluate how those visas are being granted, not just to the children,所以我们要重新评价这些签证是如何发放的 不仅仅是给孩子们
303but how those visas are being granted to the people who are accompanying them.但是这些签证是如何发给陪同他们的人的。
304And by the way, to some of the organizations that are facilitating it, there is evidence顺便说一下,对于一些正在推动它的组织来说,有证据表明
305to us by numerous congressional offices that some of the organizations bragging about and一些组织向我们吹嘘
306involved in acquiring these visas have strong links to terrorist groups like Hamas.参与获得这些签证的人与哈马斯等恐怖集团有密切联系。
307And so we are not going to be in partnership with groups that are friendly with Hamas.因此,我们不会与对哈马斯友好的团体建立伙伴关系。
308So we're going to pause those visas.所以我们要暂停签证
309There was just a small number of them issued to children, but they come with adults accompanying只有一小部分是发给儿童的,但是他们和成人一起来
310them obviously.很明显
311And we are going to pause this program and reevaluate how those visas are being vetted我们要暂停这个计划 重新评价这些签证是如何被审核的
312and what relationship, if any, has there been by these organizations to the process of acquiring以及这些组织与获得《公约》和
313those visas.那些签证。
314We're not going to be in partnership with groups that have links or sympathies towards我们不会与那些 与我们有联系或同情的团体合作
315Hamas.哈马斯。
316Secretary of State Marco Rubio, we have to leave it there for this morning.国务卿马可·鲁比奥,我们得留在那里 今天上午。
317Thank you for joining us.谢谢你加入我们。
318Thank you.谢谢
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