加文·纽森谈如何击败共和党、是否竞选总统 | 2026.9.
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| 0:01 | Over his eight years as California governor, Gavin Newsom has become one of the Democratic | 在他担任加州州长的八年里 加文·纽索姆成为民主党人之一 |
| 0:06 | Party's most vocal critics of President Trump. | 党内对特朗普总统最有声的批评者. |
| 0:09 | As speculation swirls around Newsom's own potential presidential bid, he's been hitting | 由于对Newsom自己的 潜在总统竞价的猜测 他一直在打击 |
| 0:13 | the road and raising money to get more Democrats elected at the state level, where he says | 道路和筹集资金 争取更多的民主党人当选 在州一级,他说 |
| 0:19 | his party took their eye off the ball. | 他的派对把眼睛从球上切开 |
| 0:21 | Producer Matthew Lofman and I met up with Newsom in North and South Carolina for this | 制片人马修·洛夫曼和我在北卡罗莱纳州和南卡罗莱纳州 认识了诺森 |
| 0:26 | report and an exclusive one-on-one interview. | 报告和独家采访 |
| 0:30 | We're up against an invasive species in the name of Donald Trump. | 我们以唐纳德·特朗普的名义对抗入侵物种. |
| 0:36 | The California governor taking his fiery brand on the road and deep into Republican counties | 加州州长带着他的火爆品牌在路上 深入共和党各州 |
| 0:42 | in Alabama and the Carolinas. | 在阿拉巴马州和卡罗来纳州 |
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| 1 | Over his eight years as California governor, Gavin Newsom has become one of the Democratic | 在他担任加州州长的八年里 加文·纽索姆成为民主党人之一 |
| 2 | Party's most vocal critics of President Trump. | 党内对特朗普总统最有声的批评者. |
| 3 | As speculation swirls around Newsom's own potential presidential bid, he's been hitting | 由于对Newsom自己的 潜在总统竞价的猜测 他一直在打击 |
| 4 | the road and raising money to get more Democrats elected at the state level, where he says | 道路和筹集资金 争取更多的民主党人当选 在州一级,他说 |
| 5 | his party took their eye off the ball. | 他的派对把眼睛从球上切开 |
| 6 | Producer Matthew Lofman and I met up with Newsom in North and South Carolina for this | 制片人马修·洛夫曼和我在北卡罗莱纳州和南卡罗莱纳州 认识了诺森 |
| 7 | report and an exclusive one-on-one interview. | 报告和独家采访 |
| 8 | We're up against an invasive species in the name of Donald Trump. | 我们以唐纳德·特朗普的名义对抗入侵物种. |
| 9 | The California governor taking his fiery brand on the road and deep into Republican counties | 加州州长带着他的火爆品牌在路上 深入共和党各州 |
| 10 | in Alabama and the Carolinas. | 在阿拉巴马州和卡罗来纳州 |
| 11 | This 2026, it's all on the line. | 2026年全线通车. |
| 12 | We have drawn the line. | 我们已经划清界限了。 |
| 13 | States where Republican efforts to redraw congressional maps are helping to motivate | 共和党重新绘制国会地图的努力有助于激励 |
| 14 | Democrats ahead of November's midterm elections, like Anne Elliot. | 民主党在11月中期选举之前,如安妮·艾略特. |
| 15 | Do you think it's different this year? | 你觉得今年不一样吗? |
| 16 | I feel a change in the air a little bit. | 我感觉空气有些变化 |
| 17 | Why? | 为什么? |
| 18 | What do you feel? | 你感觉如何? |
| 19 | Well, I think people are miffed and people are beginning to pay more attention. | 我觉得人们被困住了 人们开始更加关注了 |
| 20 | That attention has also turned to 2028 and speculation about whether Governor Newsom | 注意力也转向2028年 并猜测是否州长Newsom |
| 21 | hopes to be President Newsom. | 希望成为总统。 |
| 22 | It's the election that defines all the elections we've had. | 是选举决定了我们所有的选举。 |
| 23 | That's brought the eyes of traditional media, content creators and, most importantly, voters. | 这带来了传统媒体,内容创作者以及最重要的是选民的目光. |
| 24 | Thank you for being here. | 谢谢你能来 |
| 25 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 26 | South Carolina, for the first time, will be first on the Democrats' nominating calendar | 南卡罗来纳州将首次进入民主党提名日程 |
| 27 | as they work to pick their party's nominee. | 他们努力挑选他们的党的人选 |
| 28 | Thank you, all of you, for what you will do. | 感谢大家,感谢你们将要做的事。 |
| 29 | Voters like Christian Mergner came to hear the governor's message and kick the tires | 像克里斯蒂安·默格纳这样的选民 来听州长的留言 踢轮胎 |
| 30 | on a potential candidate. | 一个潜在的候选人。 |
| 31 | I think he's got a strong understanding and a strong background. | 我认为他有很强的理解和很强的背景. |
| 32 | He seems very genuine and sincere. | 他看起来非常真诚和真诚。 |
| 33 | He's got a laugh. | 师笑曰. |
| 34 | You know, humor and empathy go hand in hand, just like communication and trust do. | 你知道,幽默和同情是相辅相成的, 就像沟通和信任一样。 |
| 35 | And he's got that. | 且道他有这个. |
| 36 | Can I be your campaign manager? | 我可以做你的竞选经理吗? |
| 37 | Yokema Keretan, 第一次为州民主党志愿工作, | |
| 38 | all in for a potential Newsom campaign. | 都是为了一场潜在的新闻运动 |
| 39 | Is this someone you think might run for president or should run for president, and would you | 你是否认为会竞选总统 或者应该竞选总统 |
| 40 | support him? | 支持他吗? |
| 41 | Absolutely. | 当然 |
| 42 | I think he should, and I absolutely would support him. | 我认为他应该, 我绝对会支持他。 |
| 43 | I like that he continues to push the envelope on what's going on in the rural communities. | 我喜欢他继续把信封 推到农村社区 |
| 44 | And I feel like that grassroots effort is really what's going to push us over the top. | 我觉得基层的努力 真正能把我们推向顶端 |
| 45 | But for now, Newsom says he's focused on showing up to boost turnout for 2026. | 但目前,Newsom表示他专注于出场提高2026年的投票率. |
| 46 | Remind people what's wrong. | 提醒人们什么是错的。 |
| 47 | This year, he hopes Trump turns up, too. | 今年,他希望特朗普也出现. |
| 48 | His record's hard to defend right now, particularly in states like North Carolina and South Carolina. | 他的记录现在很难辩护,特别是在北卡罗莱纳州和南卡罗莱纳州. |
| 49 | So I'd be encouraged if he shows up. | 所以如果他出现,我会受到鼓励。 |
| 50 | The one thing that we should be sober about is the amount of money he can bring to these | 我们唯一应该清醒的是 他能给这些钱多少 |
| 51 | races. | 种族。 |
| 52 | And so I think the Democratic Party would be wise to be cautious about over-reading | 所以我认为民主党对过度阅读会很明智 |
| 53 | the polls at this moment, because those resources could start to shift. | 现在的民意调查 因为这些资源可能开始转移 |
| 54 | You think those races could tighten? | 你认为那些种族可以收紧? |
| 55 | I think they legitimately could. | 我认为他们可以合法这样做。 |
| 56 | Even beyond November, Newsom says Democrats need to build back at the state level. | 即使在11月以后,Newsom说民主党人需要在州一级重建. |
| 57 | Not just in strongholds, but in places like Lancaster County, South Carolina. | 不仅在据点,而且在南卡罗莱纳州兰开斯特县等地. |
| 58 | Thank you so much for coming. | 谢谢你能来 |
| 59 | We're back in 2024. | 2024年归国. |
| 60 | Donald Trump won by 24 points. | 唐纳德·特朗普以24分夺冠. |
| 61 | That is where we sat down for a longer conversation on his party, his ambitions and why he says | 这就是我们坐下来讨论他的党,他的野心和为什么他说 |
| 62 | Democrats need to do things differently. | 民主党人需要做不同的事情。 |
| 63 | I began by asking him why he's focused on red and rural counties. | 我首先问他为什么专注于红色和农村的郡. |
| 64 | Well, I get a lot of Democrats say, well, don't don't waste your resources. | 嗯,我得到很多 民主党说, 好了,不要浪费你的资源。 |
| 65 | And I think what they really mean is money. | 我认为他们真正的意思是钱。 |
| 66 | But and I could see that argument. | 但是,我可以看到这个论点。 |
| 67 | I can, you know, actually, if you have a limited amount of money and it's a scarcity | 我可以,你知道,实际上,如果你有 有限的钱,这是一个稀缺 |
| 68 | issue, where do you invest those dollars? | 你在哪里投资这些美元? |
| 69 | But time is free showing up, just having the decency to say you're worth the drive. | 但是时间是自由的出现, 只是有礼貌地说你值得开车。 |
| 70 | That's that's there's no excuse not to do that. | 这就是没有借口不这样做。 |
| 71 | And our party hasn't done that for 20 plus years. | 我们的党20多年没这么做了 |
| 72 | I said, you know, I was in Alabama my first stop. | 我说,你知道,我在阿拉巴马州的第一站。 |
| 73 | I remember talking about this March 2010 op-ed in The Wall Street Journal that that Carl | 我记得在2010年3月的《华尔街日报》上 谈到卡尔 |
| 74 | Grove wrote saying our strategy is to spend 30 million dollars on this red map initiative | Grove写道,我们的策略是 花费3000万美元 这个红色地图倡议 |
| 75 | to win back state, House and Senate seats so that we can use those seats to then redistrict | 赢得州、众议院和参议院的席位 这样我们就能利用这些席位 |
| 76 | to determine the future of Congress. | 来决定国会的未来。 |
| 77 | And he won 675 seats. | 并获得675个席位. |
| 78 | 2010 was the last time we had a majority in the southern states. | 2010年是我们最后一次在南部各州占多数. |
| 79 | We had a majority then, but we turned our back after that. | 当时我们占多数,但之后我们却背弃。 |
| 80 | They won almost a thousand of these state seats and the Democratic Party was focused | 他们赢得了近一千个州议席 民主党被集中 |
| 81 | on the guy or gal to come save the day. | 男的或女的来拯救这一天。 |
| 82 | We were watching cable news and we were waiting for the presidential cycle. | 我们在看有线新闻,在等待总统周期。 |
| 83 | We weren't doing the hard work of courthouses and school boards and city council and state | 我们不是在做法院、学校董事会、市议会和州议会的辛勤工作 |
| 84 | races. | 种族。 |
| 85 | And so that's why I'm here focusing on those races and trying to focus the energy of the | 这就是为什么我在这里专注于这些种族 并试图集中能量 |
| 86 | Democratic Party on a long term strategy that we've abandoned. | 民主党的长远战略 我们放弃了 |
| 87 | You mentioned redistricting and we all know you were able to push through new maps in | 你提到重新划区 我们都知道你能够通过新的地图 |
| 88 | California. | 加利福尼亚州. |
| 89 | Other democratic efforts in Virginia and Maryland and New York weren't as successful, but even | 弗吉尼亚州、马里兰州和纽约的其他民主努力没有那么成功,但甚至 |
| 90 | your effort expires in 2030. | 您的努力将于2030年到期。 |
| 91 | And I've also heard you say again and again that Democrats keep trying to win arguments | 我也听到你一遍又一遍地说 民主党一直试图赢得辩论 |
| 92 | while the other side is consolidating power. | 而对方则在巩固权力 |
| 93 | So do you want to see Democrats do more to consolidate power? | 所以,你希望看到民主党为巩固权力做更多的工作吗? |
| 94 | If Democrats win majorities in these state legislatures, should they be pushing for more | 如果民主党赢得了这些州立法机关的多数, 他们应该争取更多的 |
| 95 | redistricting? | 重新分区? |
| 96 | Well, we got to win. | 我们得赢 |
| 97 | The right is ruthless. | 权利是无情的。 |
| 98 | They are. | 他们是。 |
| 99 | They're not screwing around. | 他们不会乱搞的 |
| 100 | So you're saying yes to more democratic redistricting. | 所以你是说是的 更民主的重新分区。 |
| 101 | I'm saying, well, I'm saying what the voters of California said and I was proud to write | 我说的是加州的选民说的 我自豪地写了 |
| 102 | that initiative and that is we need national independent redistricting. | 即我们需要国家独立重新划分区域。 |
| 103 | So we did two things. | 所以我们做了两件事。 |
| 104 | By the way, we did the first thing, which was we allowed the voters for the first time | 顺便说一句,我们做了第一件事,那就是我们第一次允许选民 |
| 105 | in American history to decide for themselves. | 在美国历史上,自己决定。 |
| 106 | We didn't do that to them. | 我们没有这么做 |
| 107 | We did that on their behalf. | 我们代表他们这样做。 |
| 108 | And so the voters decided those maps. | 于是选民决定了这些地图。 |
| 109 | But they also on that same ballot had another question, should we have national independent | 但是,他们在同一张选票上还提出了另一个问题,如果我们能实现国家独立。 |
| 110 | redistricting? | 重新分区? |
| 111 | And that was affirmative. | 这是肯定的。 |
| 112 | But short of a national system, at the state level, do you think more states should be | 但是,如果没有国家体系, 在州一级, 你认为更多的州应该是 |
| 113 | We got to fight fire with fire. | 我们要用火扑灭火 |
| 114 | I'm done. | 我受够了 |
| 115 | I'm done with watching women's rights roll back, LGBTQ rights. | 我受够了看女权卷土重来 LGBTQ的权利 |
| 116 | I'm done with seeing the Voting Rights Act being vandalized. | 我受够了《投票权法》被破坏 |
| 117 | I'm done seeing our inheritance, this country and this nation being completely squandered | 我受够了我们的遗产 这个国家和这个国家被彻底浪费了 |
| 118 | by short-termism. | 被短期主义。 |
| 119 | So you know what, until we can level that playing field, yeah, I believe in fighting | 所以,你知道什么,直到我们能 平平的比赛场地, 是的,我相信战斗 |
| 120 | fire with fire. | 着火了 |
| 121 | I think Democrats need to grow a backbone and we need to stop being a little self-righteous | 我认为民主党人需要壮大一个骨干,我们需要停止 有点自以为是 |
| 122 | and a little highbrow in terms of just trying to intellectually win arguments because of | 和一点点高眉 仅仅试图在智力上赢得争论 因为 |
| 123 | the ruthlessness on the other side. | 对方的无情 |
| 124 | I just can't watch people suffer because we're just, we're playing by a whole set of rules. | 我只是不能看人们受苦,因为我们只是, 我们正在玩一套规则。 |
| 125 | We are. | 我们是。 |
| 126 | We have been. | 我们曾经是。 |
| 127 | So let me ask you about how Democrats can win back control of Congress, because it's | 我问你民主党人如何赢得对国会的控制,因为 |
| 128 | been a pretty revealing primary season for the party, right, a reckoning. | 对派对来说 是个很好的第一季 对 算账 |
| 129 | Some have called it too. | 有人也叫这个 |
| 130 | You saw how many wins DSA candidates, Democratic socialist candidates, were able to win Donovan | 你看有多少赢的DSA候选人,民主社会主义候选人,能够赢得多诺万 |
| 131 | McKinney in Michigan, Chris Rabb in Pennsylvania, Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan. | 密歇根州的麦金尼,宾夕法尼亚州的克里斯·拉布,密歇根州的阿卜杜勒·赛义德. |
| 132 | He doesn't identify as DSA but was sort of aligned with them. | 他不认同为DSA,但有点与他们一致。 |
| 133 | If you have these candidates and this platform that is clearly animating the base, energizing | 如果你有这些候选人 和这个平台 很明显的动画基础, |
| 134 | turnout, should more of those ideas be worked into the broader Democratic platform? | 投票者们,是否应该将更多的这些想法纳入更广泛的民主纲领? |
| 135 | I think they are. | 我认为是的。 |
| 136 | I mean, we want money out of politics. | 我的意思是,我们想要钱 从政治。 |
| 137 | I've been supporting clean money campaigns for decades. | 我支持清洁钱运动几十年了。 |
| 138 | But there seems to be a little distance between some leadership and those DSA candidates. | 但是,一些领导人与那些每日生活津贴候选人之间似乎有些距离。 |
| 139 | But not the ideas. | 但不是这些想法。 |
| 140 | We want Medicare. | 我们要医保 |
| 141 | I mean, I believe in universal health care and I believe in Medicare for all. | 我相信全民医保 我相信全民医保 |
| 142 | Party does overwhelmingly. | 党是绝对的。 |
| 143 | I mean, you pull people to party. | 我的意思是,你拉人 派对。 |
| 144 | I mean, so if it's about more money in your pocket, lowering costs, it's about getting | 我的意思是,如果它是关于更多的钱 在你的口袋里, 降低成本, |
| 145 | money out of politics and it's about Medicare for all. | 钱从政,这是关于 医疗保健为所有人。 |
| 146 | I think we're pretty aligned. | 我觉得我们很配合 |
| 147 | It's about recognizing that we've got a planet that is getting hotter and drier and that | 而是要认识到 我们的星球越来越热和干燥 |
| 148 | we've got to address the issue of climate change and we want energy security and we | 我们必须解决气候变化问题 我们希望能源安全 |
| 149 | want to move off fossil fuels. | 想要摆脱化石燃料。 |
| 150 | That's a DSA position. | 这是一个DSA的位置。 |
| 151 | That's a mainstream position within the Democratic Party. | 这是民主党内部的主流立场. |
| 152 | So I think in many ways, it's just a label and it's a familiar. | 所以我从很多方面来说,它只是一个标签,也是熟悉的。 |
| 153 | Forgive me. | 原谅我 |
| 154 | You're telling the wrong person. | 你告诉错人了 |
| 155 | It's such a familiar label to me. | 这对我来说是这么熟悉的标签。 |
| 156 | We call them progressives. | 我们称之为进步者。 |
| 157 | It was the Green Party. | 这是绿党。 |
| 158 | I ran against the Green Party. | 我与绿党为敌 |
| 159 | It sounded the exact same platform 20 years ago. | 20年前它听起来完全一样 |
| 160 | Maybe it's because I'm from the Bay Area, maybe it's because of California. | 可能是因为我来自湾区 也许是因为加州 |
| 161 | And I think it's healthy. | 我觉得很健康 |
| 162 | I just think it's, I'm not consumed by this. | 我只是觉得,我不为这个所消耗。 |
| 163 | I don't think there's a great. | 我不认为有伟大的。 |
| 164 | I just, I think it's the natural, it's the Howard. | 我只是,我认为这是自然的, 这是霍华德。 |
| 165 | It's reflected in your Kucinich and just aspects and component parts of our party that we've | 它反映在你的库西尼希 以及我们党的公正方面和组成部分 |
| 166 | always had. | 总是这样 |
| 167 | And it's a healthy dialectic within the party. | 而且是党内健康的辩证法. |
| 168 | I want to ask you about some of the Democratic messaging when it comes to taking on the president | 我想问你一些关于民主党的讯息 关于接总统 |
| 169 | and talking about President Trump. | 谈论川普总统 |
| 170 | You saw House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries took a lot of flak for a meeting that he took | 你看到少数党领袖Hakeem Jeffries 参加他参加的一个会议 |
| 171 | with Jared Kushner, your fellow Californian Congressman Ro Khanna said he shouldn't have | 与贾里德·库什纳, 你的加州议员罗·坎纳说 他不应该有 |
| 172 | done it. | 已经做到了。 |
| 173 | He said it undermined the party's base. | 他说这破坏了党的基础. |
| 174 | Do you agree with that? | 你同意吗? |
| 175 | Oh, no. | 哦,没有。 |
| 176 | I'm not as offended by it. | 我没那么生气 |
| 177 | Come on. | 来吧。 |
| 178 | So he met with him. | 于是与他相见. |
| 179 | I care about, you know, I met with Trump for 90 minutes. | 我关心,你知道, 我见过特朗普90分钟。 |
| 180 | Did anything come of that meeting of Jeffries meeting? | Jeffries那次会议有什么进展吗? |
| 181 | I don't know. | 师曰. |
| 182 | That's you got to ask Jeffries. | 你要问杰弗里 |
| 183 | I mean, but you know what? | 我的意思是,但你知道吗? |
| 184 | I met with Trump 90 minutes. | 我认识特朗普90分钟 |
| 185 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 186 | I meet with my father-in-law all the time, big Republican. | 我和岳父经常见面 大共和党人 |
| 187 | You know, come on. | 你知道,来吧。 |
| 188 | I sit down on my podcast. | 我坐在播客旁边 |
| 189 | I've been rightfully criticized by people like him that don't like meeting with people | 我被他这种不喜欢和人见面的人 正确地批评了 |
| 190 | they disagree with. | 他们不同意 |
| 191 | But divorce is not an option in this country. | 但离婚在这个国家不是一个选择。 |
| 192 | And so the idea that they met did not offend me. | 所以他们遇见的主意并没有冒犯我 |
| 193 | I understand it offended the base. | 我知道这冒犯了基地 |
| 194 | And I'm not naive to the concern about that. | 我对此并不天真 |
| 195 | But I'm personally not concerned about Speaker Jeffries doing appropriate oversight. | 但我个人并不担心 议长杰弗里做适当的监督。 |
| 196 | So that will be the determination. | 所以这就是决心。 |
| 197 | I will criticize him if he doesn't unleash the oversight committees. | 我会批评他 如果他不释放监督委员会。 |
| 198 | I want to see real accountability. | 我想看到真正的问责制。 |
| 199 | And by the way, I think you know enough about what I've been saying. | 顺便说一句,我想你已经足够了解我说的话了。 |
| 200 | I'm not messing around when it comes to accountability. | 说到责任,我不会乱搞的 |
| 201 | What does that mean? | 这是什么意思? |
| 202 | This great grip, the corruption, if any of that's illegal, we run every single one of | 这个伟大的抓斗,腐败, 如果其中任何非法, 我们运行每一个 |
| 203 | that down. | 下来。 |
| 204 | I mean, all these sole source contracts, the crony capitalism, the state capitalism. | 我的意思是,所有这些唯一的来源合同, 裙带资本主义,国家资本主义。 |
| 205 | I mean, we would go after President Trump in that case as well. | 那样的话我们也会去找川普总统 |
| 206 | If things have been done illegally, you hold these folks accountable. | 如果事情是违法的, 你追究这些人的责任。 |
| 207 | If we don't, shame on us. | 如果我们不这样做, 羞辱我们。 |
| 208 | And so that's the job of the speaker. | 所以这是演讲者的工作。 |
| 209 | And knowing Speaker Jeffries, I'm not concerned about that at all. | 我认识杰弗里斯议长 我一点都不担心 |
| 210 | So I don't get offended by who people meet. | 所以我不会因为别人遇到谁而生气 |
| 211 | I care about their actions, not the fact that they're meeting and engaging folks they may | 我关心的是他们的行为,而不是他们正在见面和接触的人 |
| 212 | disagree with. | 不同意这一点。 |
| 213 | And by the way, why am I here in a red county? | 顺便说一下,我为什么在这里 一个红色的县? |
| 214 | I want to meet people I disagree with. | 我想见我不同意的人 |
| 215 | We all want to be loved. | 我们都希望得到爱 |
| 216 | We need to be loved. | 我们需要被爱。 |
| 217 | We want to be connected, respected and protected. | 我们想得到联系、尊重和保护。 |
| 218 | But I get the atmospherics of that and what Kushner represents and all the all the Saudi | 但我知道库什纳代表着什么 以及所有沙特人 |
| 219 | money and all the conflicts and the Board of Peace, which is all about him getting a | 钱,所有的冲突 和平委员会,这是所有关于他得到一个 |
| 220 | piece of the Middle East, that is about action, not about a meeting. | 中东的一部分,那就是行动,而不是会议。 |
| 221 | And that will be judged on the basis of Speaker Jeffries' performance. | 这将根据杰弗里议长的表现来判断。 |
| 222 | On the accountability front, do you want to see Democrats impeach the president if they | 在问责制方面,你想不想看到民主党人弹劾总统? |
| 223 | win back the majority? | 赢得多数? |
| 224 | If the facts, wherever the facts lead. | 如果事实,无论事实如何。 |
| 225 | And I'm not naive about the politics of that because it will be a sideshow and distraction. | 我对政治并不天真 因为那会是场杂耍和分散注意力 |
| 226 | What I don't want to do is see another impeachment that amounts to nothing except a virtue signal. | 我不想做的是看到另一起弹劾事件,除了一个美德信号之外,什么也没有。 |
| 227 | And that's important. | 这很重要。 |
| 228 | I mean, I just don't want a sideshow. | 我的意思是,我只是不想要一个侧展。 |
| 229 | And we again should be focused as we have in California on $11 insulin. | 我们也应该像加州一样 专注于11美元胰岛素。 |
| 230 | Which is the only state in the country that does that, focusing more on getting those | 这是这个国家唯一这样做的国家, 更注重获得这些 |
| 231 | diapers in the hands of newborns and doing more on paid sick leave and family leave, | 新生儿手中的尿布,以及更多的带薪病假和家庭假, |
| 232 | doing more on universal health care of no other states done more than us and then | 在普及保健方面做更多的工作 没有哪个国家比我们做得更多,然后 |
| 233 | child care and having that positive alternative and affirmative agenda. | 照顾儿童,并有这种积极的备选和肯定的议程。 |
| 234 | And I think that we would be better off. | 我认为,我们将会更好。 |
| 235 | But accountability across the board. | 但问责制是全面的。 |
| 236 | And it's not just Trump. | 而且不仅仅是特朗普。 |
| 237 | It's all the folks that are complicit in this great grift. | 所有的人都是这个大骗子的同谋 |
| 238 | It's all the folks that are complicit in the rank corruption that is going on in this | 所有参与腐败的人 都会参与进来 |
| 239 | administration. | 行政部门。 |
| 240 | You want to see the president held accountable, his cabinet members. | 你想让总统负责 他的内阁成员 |
| 241 | You want to see his family. | 你想见他的家人。 |
| 242 | Anyone that's broken the law, anyone that's taken advantage of the American people, | 任何违反法律的人 任何利用美国人民的人 |
| 243 | picked their pocket illegally, should be held to account. | 非法偷的口袋,应追究其责任。 |
| 244 | Period, full stops, not complicated. | 期间,全站,不复杂. |
| 245 | South Carolina is also going to be the first primary state. | 南卡罗莱纳州也将成为第一个初级州. |
| 246 | You've been to New Hampshire. | 你去过新罕布什尔州 |
| 247 | You've been to Nevada. | 你去过内华达州 |
| 248 | You've been to Michigan. | 你去过密歇根州 |
| 249 | They're all early states. | 他们都是早期的州. |
| 250 | Look, the assumption is that you are running for president in 2028. | 假设你是2028年竞选总统的 |
| 251 | What would lead you not to run? | 是什么让你不跑? |
| 252 | Big enough why to endure, as Nietzsche said, anyhow, | 正如尼采所说, 为什么要忍耐? |
| 253 | not being able to look you in the eye and say, I have a compelling vision | 我无法直视你的眼睛 说,我有一个令人信服的愿景 |
| 254 | that I think is better than the people that are standing next to me left and right, | 我觉得比站在我身边的人要好 |
| 255 | that I meet the moment and that I'm not wasting your time or anyone else's time, | 我遇见的时刻 我不会浪费你的时间 或任何人的时间, |
| 256 | that we can actually be successful. | 我们实际上可以成功。 |
| 257 | I'm not naive about people's perception of me or California | 我对别人对我或加州的看法并不天真 |
| 258 | and the California derangement syndrome that rages 24-7 on Fox. | 和加利福尼亚疯癫症综合征 愤怒的狐狸24-7。 |
| 259 | For all those reasons. | 出于所有这些原因。 |
| 260 | And also, you know, sorry, but it's true. | 而且,你知道,对不起,但这是真的。 |
| 261 | I got four young kids and two of them were fighting last night. | 我有两个小孩 昨晚吵架 |
| 262 | And I was just getting home from a fundraiser. | 我刚刚从募捐会上回家 |
| 263 | And I was dinner was called in the hotel room at 1030. | 10点30分我在酒店房间吃晚餐 |
| 264 | And Hunter and Dutch were screaming and yelling at each other. | 亨特和荷兰人互相大喊大叫 |
| 265 | And I was like, I didn't know it. | 我当时还不知道 |
| 266 | I was like, I've been a horrible parent. | 我是一个可怕的父母。 |
| 267 | Do your kids want you to run? | 你的孩子要你跑吗? |
| 268 | Two of them do. | 其二有为. |
| 269 | Two of them absolutely don't do. | 两个绝对不这样做。 |
| 270 | Don't ruin us, Dad. | 别毁了我们 爸爸 |
| 271 | Don't do this to us. | 别这样对我们 |
| 272 | Don't do this to me, Dad. | 不要这样对我,爸爸。 |
| 273 | Don't do this. | 别这样 |
| 274 | Literally explicit. | 字面上明确。 |
| 275 | You won't run unless all of them agree. | 除非他们都同意 否则你不会跑的 |
| 276 | They that's you talk about you talk about a focus group. | 他们就是说你在谈论焦点小组 |
| 277 | I don't care what the cow she says or, you know, your polymarket says | 我不管她说什么 或者,你知道,你的多市场说 |
| 278 | or what the DSA says about me, because I'm some, you know, what | 或地检署说我什么 因为我是... |
| 279 | that's what matters is what they say. | 这才是他们所说的话 |
| 280 | And obviously, my rock star wife, | 显然 我的摇滚明星妻子 |
| 281 | Governor Newsom, you're very comfortable in this format, I should say. | 诺森州长,我应该说,你很舒服 |
| 282 | It's almost like you have your own podcast show. | 这几乎就像你有你自己的播客节目。 |
| 283 | I know, but not everyone loves my guests. | 我知道,但不是每个人都喜欢我的客人。 |
| 284 | Would you keep the podcast if you were president? | 如果你是总统 你会保留播客吗? |
| 285 | Oh, that's interesting. | 哦,这很有趣。 |
| 286 | As president, a presidential podcast, that's kind of a little different, | 作为总统,总统播客, 这有点不同, |
| 287 | a little different than a fireside chat. | 和火边聊天有点不同 |
| 288 | It's kind of a modern. | 这是一种现代。 |
| 289 | It is. | 没错 |
| 290 | Is that a good idea? | 好主意吗? |
| 291 | I'm sitting back. | 我坐卧. |
| 292 | I'm thinking. | 我在考虑 |
| 293 | I'm thinking about what I would what I wear. | 我在想我该穿什么 |
| 294 | Was it a sweater? | 是毛衣吗? |
| 295 | Is it more relaxing, approachable? | 更轻松,更接近吗? |
| 296 | Depends on the season. | 取决于季节。 |
| 297 | I don't know. | 师曰. |
| 298 | I just I I feel my physiology changed when. | 我只是觉得我的生理 改变的时候。 |
| 299 | But it's a powerful messaging tool. | 但它是一个强大的通讯工具。 |
| 300 | I think it's a good idea for a president to have his own podcast. | 我觉得总统有自己的播客是个好主意 |
| 301 | You have to meet people where they are. | 得见众生处. |
| 302 | And the reason I'm doing a podcast is I'm trying to iterate. | 我做播客的理由是 我试图提速。 |
| 303 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 304 | And after we got shellacked last year, | 我们去年被炮击后 |
| 305 | I just felt like we needed to do different things. | 我只是觉得我们需要做不同的事情。 |
| 306 | That's exactly why I changed my social media. | 这就是我改变社交媒体的原因 |
| 307 | I continue to do it and get what you got. | 我继续做得到你得到的 |
| 308 | That's why I did the Patriots. | 这就是为什么我做了爱国者。 |
| 309 | That's why I'm selling these knee pads to university presidents | 所以我才把这些膝盖垫卖给大学校长 |
| 310 | that are selling out and law firms that are selling out. | 那些正在卖出 和律师事务所正在卖出。 |
| 311 | I'm sorry. | 对不起 |
| 312 | I just try new things. | 我只是尝试一些新事物。 |
| 313 | I think we need to try new things. | 我认为我们需要尝试一些新事物。 |
| 314 | Iterate, take risks to watch our full 50 minute interview, | 提特瑞,冒险观看我们50分钟的采访 |
| 315 | including more on A.I. | 包括更多关于A.I. |
| 316 | data centers, transgender rights and Newsom's final months as California governor. | 数据中心 变性人权利 和Newsom作为加州州长的最后几个月 |
| 317 | 请检查access-date=中的日期值 (帮助) | |
| 318 | on our YouTube channel or wherever you get your podcasts. | 我们的YouTube频道 或者任何你得到的播客。 |
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