英国反对党领袖巴登诺克发表关于经济的演讲 | 2026.6.
字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:05 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 0:08 | Thank you, everyone. | 谢谢大家 |
| 0:16 | And thank you, Mel, for that fantastic introduction. | 谢谢你,梅尔,那美妙的介绍。 |
| 0:21 | Britain is heading for a summer of chaos. | 英国正走向混乱的夏天. |
| 0:25 | We have a caretaker prime minister | 我们有个看守总理 |
| 0:28 | barely in office, definitely not in power. | 几乎没有在任,绝对没有权力。 |
| 0:32 | All major policy and spending decisions have been put on hold. | 所有主要的政策和支出决定都暂停。 |
| 0:37 | The last defense secretary resigned | 最后一个国防部长辞职了 |
| 0:40 | because the money needed to keep Britain safe has not been found. | 因为没有找到保护英国安全所需的钱 |
| 0:46 | Ministers of the Home Office are fighting each other. | 内务府各大臣互相争斗. |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 2 | Thank you, everyone. | 谢谢大家 |
| 3 | And thank you, Mel, for that fantastic introduction. | 谢谢你,梅尔,那美妙的介绍。 |
| 4 | Britain is heading for a summer of chaos. | 英国正走向混乱的夏天. |
| 5 | We have a caretaker prime minister | 我们有个看守总理 |
| 6 | barely in office, definitely not in power. | 几乎没有在任,绝对没有权力。 |
| 7 | All major policy and spending decisions have been put on hold. | 所有主要的政策和支出决定都暂停。 |
| 8 | The last defense secretary resigned | 最后一个国防部长辞职了 |
| 9 | because the money needed to keep Britain safe has not been found. | 因为没有找到保护英国安全所需的钱 |
| 10 | Ministers of the Home Office are fighting each other. | 内务府各大臣互相争斗. |
| 11 | In fact, the immigration minister has been banned from seeing government documents. | 事实上,移民部长被禁止看政府文件。 |
| 12 | Rachel Reeves is ringing round businesses, trying to get them to say | 瑞秋・里夫斯在打响商号 想让他们说 |
| 13 | that sacking her would risk destabilizing the economy. | 解雇她有可能破坏经济稳定 |
| 14 | As if that hasn't happened already. | 好像还没发生一样 |
| 15 | What she should have had was the good grace to resign alongside Keir Starmer. | 她应该有 良好的恩典 辞职与基尔斯塔默。 |
| 16 | Meanwhile, trade unions are arguing about their favorite candidates | 同时,工会也在争论他们最喜欢的候选人 |
| 17 | to be the next chancellor. | 成为下一任总统。 |
| 18 | The government is descending into chaos and no one is dealing | 政府陷入了混乱 没有人在交易 |
| 19 | with the serious and urgent threats that this country faces. | 面对着这个国家面临的严重和紧迫的威胁。 |
| 20 | War in Europe and the Middle East and an undefunded defense | 欧洲和中东的战争和未动用的防御 |
| 21 | investment plan that is putting our troops in danger. | 投资计划使我们的部队处于危险之中。 |
| 22 | Public spending spiraling out of control and no plan | 公共开支失控,没有计划 |
| 23 | or political will to cut benefits. | 或削减利益的政治意愿。 |
| 24 | Yet we are importing oil and gas from Norway and even Russia | 我们从挪威甚至俄罗斯进口石油和天然气 |
| 25 | while banning new oil and gas drilling in the North Sea. | 在北海禁止新的石油和天然气钻探 |
| 26 | Difficult problems need solving and difficult decisions must be taken. | 困难的问题需要解决,必须作出困难的决定。 |
| 27 | But the man who will be prime minister in a couple of weeks | 但两周后当首相的人 |
| 28 | on a three month summer holiday, because he needs some time | 三个月的暑假 因为他需要时间 |
| 29 | to work out what he thinks. | 来研究他的想法 |
| 30 | He will spend the next three months | 接下来的三个月,他都会度过 |
| 31 | with unions and left wing think tanks demanding policy changes | 工会和左翼智囊团要求改变政策 |
| 32 | which nobody voted for. | 没有人投过票 |
| 33 | Andy Burnham已经是首相了 除了名义 | |
| 34 | He needs to act like a leader, put an end to speculation, | 他必须像领导者一样 结束猜测 |
| 35 | walk into number 10, name his cabinet and come to parliament | 走进10号,给他的内阁起名,并来到议会 |
| 36 | to tell the country what he plans to do. | 告诉国家他打算做什么 |
| 37 | Instead, he is allowing the speculation | 相反,他允许猜测 |
| 38 | and this chaos to run and run. | 和混乱的运行和运行。 |
| 39 | He has clearly learned nothing from the disastrous speculation | 他没有从灾难性的推测中 学到什么 |
| 40 | before Rachel Reeves last budget. | 在瑞秋・里夫最后的预算之前 |
| 41 | Do you remember the one where she went on breakfast TV | 你还记得她上早餐电视的那个吗? |
| 42 | with an emergency press conference and frightening messages about income tax? | 紧急记者招待会 和可怕的信息 关于所得税? |
| 43 | That speech, according to the chief economist of the Bank of England, | 英国银行首席经济学家说, |
| 44 | became the single biggest reason that growth flatlined. | 成为增长平缓的最大原因 |
| 45 | Her chaotic briefing had real world consequences. | 她的混乱的情况介绍产生了真实世界的后果。 |
| 46 | Investment decisions were paused. | 投资决定暂停。 |
| 47 | People lost their jobs. | 人们失去了工作。 |
| 48 | And because Andy Burnham is not taking charge | 因为安迪·伯纳姆不负责 |
| 49 | and shutting down this speculation, it is already happening again. | 并结束这种猜测, 它已经再次发生。 |
| 50 | People are worried about capital gains tax. | 人们担心资本收益税. |
| 51 | So they're changing their investment decisions. | 所以他们正在改变投资决策。 |
| 52 | The car industry is in limbo again, | 汽车工业又陷入困境了 |
| 53 | because they don't know when petrol cars will be phased out. | 因为他们不知道汽油车何时会淘汰 |
| 54 | Everyone, everyone is terrified about what will happen | 每个人,每个人都害怕会发生什么 |
| 55 | if Ed Miliband becomes the chancellor. | 如果埃德·米利班德成为总统 |
| 56 | The same is true in every sector of the economy. | 经济的每一个部门也一样。 |
| 57 | Britain is facing a summer of chaos. | 英国正面临混乱的夏天. |
| 58 | Investment decisions across the country will be put on hold | 将暂停全国的投资决定 |
| 59 | every time the newspapers are briefed about new tax rises. | 每次报社都被告知新的税收上涨 |
| 60 | The markets will react every time it looks like | 市场每一次看起来都会有反应 |
| 61 | Britain is going to be borrowing more money. | 英国会借更多钱 |
| 62 | Our economy will be left in limbo. | 我们的经济将陷入困境。 |
| 63 | And all Labour MPs care about is which jobs they'll be getting | 所有工党议员都关心的是 他们能得到哪些工作 |
| 64 | in the new government. | 在新政府中。 |
| 65 | The fact is, whether Andy Burnham likes it or not, | 事实是,无论安迪·伯纳姆喜欢与否, |
| 66 | Britain is facing a harsh economic reality. | 英国正面临着严峻的经济现实. |
| 67 | Our national debt is nearly 100 percent of GDP. | 我国国债接近GDP的100%. |
| 68 | Our credit card is maxed out. | 我们的信用卡最多了 |
| 69 | We are spending more on debt interest alone than we do on defence. | 我们单独花在债务利息上的钱比花在国防上的钱还要多。 |
| 70 | We are already paying more to borrow than Greece and Morocco. | 我们已经支付比希腊和摩洛哥更多的借款。 |
| 71 | Any signal that Andy Burnham intends to borrow even more money | 任何关于安迪·伯纳姆打算借更多钱的信号 |
| 72 | will instantly mean higher borrowing costs. | 将立即意味着更高的借贷成本。 |
| 73 | But he won't have to pay them. | 但是他不用付钱 |
| 74 | We will in higher mortgage costs, in higher taxes. | 我们的房贷成本会更高 税收也会更高 |
| 75 | And someday this money will have to be paid back. | 总有一天,这笔钱必须偿还。 |
| 76 | And that burden will fall on our children and grandchildren. | 这种负担将落在我们的子孙身上。 |
| 77 | We need to cut spending. | 我们需要削减开支。 |
| 78 | Public spending is already unsustainable | 公共开支已经是不可持续的 |
| 79 | and it is becoming more unsustainable every day. | 它越来越无法持续 |
| 80 | But is his priority going to be getting it under control? | 但他的当务之急是控制它吗? |
| 81 | Or is it going to be giving out more welfare handouts | 还是会给更多的福利施舍? |
| 82 | to keep his backbenchers happy? | 让他的背包员开心? |
| 83 | Because it sounds from everything we've heard like his priority | 因为从我们听到的所有声音来看 都像他的优先权 |
| 84 | is to send money to the north of England to try and bribe voters | 是给英国北部寄钱 贿赂选民 |
| 85 | at the next election. | 在下一次选举中。 |
| 86 | The proposals Andy Burnham will announce in his speech today | 安迪·伯纳姆今天演讲时 将宣布提案 |
| 87 | are not some radical new agenda. | 并不是一些激进的新议程。 |
| 88 | They are old hat. | 他们是旧帽子。 |
| 89 | He says Britain has underperformed because power, money | 他说英国表现不佳 因为权力,金钱 |
| 90 | and decision making are trapped in Whitehall and London. | 决策被困在怀特霍尔和伦敦 |
| 91 | Where have I heard this before? | 我从哪听说的? |
| 92 | Another mayor who became prime minister had a devolution agenda. | 另一位成为总理的市长有移交议程。 |
| 93 | He had a treasury in the north. | 他北边有个国库 |
| 94 | Andy Burnham wants a number 10 in the north. | 安迪・伯纳姆想要一个10号在北部。 |
| 95 | But Burnham's devolution agenda, unlike ours, | 但伯纳姆的移交计划 跟我们不同 |
| 96 | is stripped of private enterprise and ownership. | 剥夺私营企业和所有权。 |
| 97 | It is loaded with Labour's instincts, more public control, | 它充满了工党的本能, 更多的公众控制, |
| 98 | more regulation, more taxes, all of the very things | 更多的监管,更多的税收, 所有的东西 |
| 99 | which have caused the problems we have today. | 这引起了我们今天的问题。 |
| 100 | They will mean more power taken away from parliament, | 这将意味着更多的权力 从议会, |
| 101 | but more and more government created all over the country. | 但越来越多的政府 在全国各地创建。 |
| 102 | More politicians, more outsourcing of decisions to bodies | 更多政治家,更多决定外包给机构 |
| 103 | with even less scrutiny and accountability. | 更没有严格和负责。 |
| 104 | If you look under the hood of Andy Burnham's proposals, | 如果你看在安迪·伯纳姆求婚的盖子下 |
| 105 | you will find at their core a mistaken belief, | 你将发现他们心中有一个错误的信仰, |
| 106 | the belief that it is government that creates growth. | 相信创造增长的是政府。 |
| 107 | It is not. | 事实并非如此。 |
| 108 | It is business that creates growth. | 创造增长的是企业。 |
| 109 | It is business that creates jobs and business is absent | 创造就业的是企业,没有企业 |
| 110 | from Andy Burnham's agenda. | 从安迪・伯纳姆的议程。 |
| 111 | Politicians are there to create the conditions for growth | 政治家在那里为增长创造条件 |
| 112 | and then get out of the way. | 然后让开 |
| 113 | Low tax, simple regulation, stable government, cheap energy. | 税收低,监管简单,政府稳定,能源便宜. |
| 114 | If you don't fix those things, nothing will grow in your economy. | 如果你不修复这些东西, 你的经济将没有任何增长。 |
| 115 | The solution is to let people build things again, | 解决之道是让人们再造东西 |
| 116 | give them the incentives, the prospect of reward for taking risks. | 给他们奖励,奖励他们冒险 |
| 117 | If you fix the underlying conditions in our economy, | 如果你能改变我们经济的基本状况 |
| 118 | I promise you that housing and infrastructure will be built faster | 我向你们保证,住房和基础设施建设将会更快 |
| 119 | than any scheme that Andy Burnham can come up with. | 而不是安迪·伯纳姆想出的任何计划 |
| 120 | If Britain is to succeed over the next two decades, | 如果英国要在未来二十年取得成功 |
| 121 | we are going to need to lead the world in sectors like AI, quantum, | 我们需要在AI、量子等部门领导世界 |
| 122 | defence tech. | 国防技术。 |
| 123 | More regional mayors aren't going to do any of this. | 更多地区市长不会做任何这一切。 |
| 124 | Instead of treating the causes of our economic problems, | 而不是处理我们经济问题的根源, |
| 125 | Andy Burnham会尝试治疗症状 | |
| 126 | That's why our Conservative plan is to do five things to fix our economy, | 所以我们的保守党计划是 做五件事来修复我们的经济, |
| 127 | five things that will help every single person in this country. | 五件事能帮助这个国家的每一个人 |
| 128 | If Andy Burnham wants to avoid a summer of chaos, | 如果安迪·伯纳姆想避免混乱的夏天 |
| 129 | he shouldn't start by announcing our five policies himself. | 他不应该首先亲自宣布我们的五项政策。 |
| 130 | One, cuts the cost of energy to get people working, | 一,降低能源成本 让人们工作, |
| 131 | cut the welfare bill, scrap the Employment Rights Act. | 削减福利法案,废除《就业权利法》。 |
| 132 | Three, cut taxes for slash burdensome regulation. | 三,对斜拉式繁琐监管减税. |
| 133 | And five, champion business, not more politicians, | 5,冠军生意, 而不是更多的政治家, |
| 134 | champion the risk takers, champion the job creators. | 支持冒险者 支持创造工作的人 |
| 135 | Those are the people who will actually get out there and hire young people. | 这些人会真正到那里去雇用年轻人。 |
| 136 | We don't need 100 different schemes run by 100 different mayors. | 我们不需要100个不同的计划 由100个不同的市长管理。 |
| 137 | Those five actions will spark growth in every corner of the country | 这五项行动将在全国每个角落引发增长 |
| 138 | and every sector of the economy. | 和每个经济部门。 |
| 139 | That's why they are our policy. | 这就是为什么他们是我们的政策。 |
| 140 | Let me explain more. | 让我解释一下。 |
| 141 | Energy is growth, and we are never going to grow our economy | 能源就是增长,我们永远不能发展经济 |
| 142 | while paying the highest industrial energy prices in the developed world. | 同时也支付发达国家最高的工业能源价格。 |
| 143 | There is a reason that Conservatives have won a by-election in Scotland | 保守党赢得苏格兰补选是有原因的 |
| 144 | for the first time in 50 years. | 这是50年来第一次 |
| 145 | We won that by-election because we are the only party in Britain | 我们赢得补选是因为 我们是英国唯一的政党 |
| 146 | standing up for Britain's oil and gas sector. | 支持英国的石油和天然气部门。 |
| 147 | To be honest, we are the only party even talking about drilling in the North Sea. | 老实说,我们是唯一一个甚至谈论北海钻井的派对。 |
| 148 | Ed Miliband's policy of sanctioning Aberdeen oil and gas | Ed Miliband制裁阿伯丁石油和天然气的政策 |
| 149 | while buying gas from Russia has been rejected. | 从俄罗斯购买天然气被拒绝。 |
| 150 | It is time to get Britain drilling again. | 是时候让英国再次钻探了 |
| 151 | And if Andy Burnham had any sense, he would sack Ed Miliband, | 如果安迪·伯纳姆有道理 他会解雇艾德·米利班德 |
| 152 | not make him Chancellor. | 而不是让他成为总理。 |
| 153 | Mr. Burnham needs to get Britain working again. | 伯纳姆先生需要让英国重新工作 |
| 154 | Everyone can see that the welfare bill is spiralling out of control. | 每个人都可以看到福利法案 正在螺旋上升失控。 |
| 155 | It's not just that we can't afford the cost of benefits, which we can't. | 不仅不能负担利益成本,也不能负担. |
| 156 | We also can't afford to waste the potential of millions of people | 我们也不能浪费数百万人的潜力 |
| 157 | who can work sitting at home. | 谁可以在家里工作。 |
| 158 | Getting our economy growing again is going to need a war effort, | 让经济再次增长 需要战争努力 |
| 159 | and everyone who can work will need to play their part. | 每一个能工作的人 都需要尽自己的职责 |
| 160 | Andy Burnham says he wants to use mayors to cut the benefits bill. | Andy Burnham说他想利用市长削减福利法案. |
| 161 | How? | 怎么会? |
| 162 | He couldn't do it. | 他办不到 |
| 163 | The number of people on benefits in Greater Manchester has surged | 大曼彻斯特的受益人数激增 |
| 164 | in recent years. | 近些年来 |
| 165 | If he couldn't do it, why does he expect others to? | 如果他做不到,他为什么期望别人这样做? |
| 166 | Cutting welfare means taking tough decisions. | 削减福利意味着作出艰难的决定。 |
| 167 | That's what real leadership is. | 这就是真正的领导地位. |
| 168 | Spending other people's money is easy. | 花别人的钱很容易 |
| 169 | Balancing the books is hard. | 平衡诸书难. |
| 170 | And it's even harder when all of your parliamentary party do | 当你们所有的议会党都这样做的时候,就更难了 |
| 171 | is go around asking who they can tax to pay for more benefits. | 问他们可以向谁征税 以支付更多的福利。 |
| 172 | So he must cut the taxes holding this country back, not put them up. | 因此,他必须削减阻碍这个国家的税收,而不是把它们放上去. |
| 173 | Once you have done the difficult work of making savings | 一旦你完成了赚钱的艰难工作 |
| 174 | and fully funded the defence investment plan, | 并充分资助国防投资计划, |
| 175 | you can start to bring down taxes and give our economy the jolt of life it needs. | 你可以开始降低税收 给我们的经济带来它所需要的生命 |
| 176 | Our plan is to abolish business rates for most of the high street, | 我们的计划是取消大部分高街的营业率 |
| 177 | scrap the family farms tax, | 取消家庭农场税, |
| 178 | scrap the family business tax and abolish stamp duty on family homes. | 取消家庭企业税,取消家庭住宅的印花税。 |
| 179 | And there is more to come. | 还有更多事要做 |
| 180 | But we are showing how we will pay for it. | 但我们正在展示我们将如何为此付出代价。 |
| 181 | And we will pay for that through our savings programme, cutting welfare, | 我们会通过我们的储蓄计划来支付, 削减福利, |
| 182 | shrinking the size of the civil service while bringing the deficit out. | 缩小公务员制度的规模,同时消除赤字。 |
| 183 | Andy Burnham needs to cut the red tape that is strangling business, | 安迪・伯纳姆需要剪掉 繁文缛节的工作, |
| 184 | stopping us from building the homes and infrastructure we need. | 阻止我们建造我们需要的住房和基础设施。 |
| 185 | He can devolve all he likes to mayors. | 他可以把喜欢的都交给市长 |
| 186 | Mayors cannot change the law. | 市长不能改变法律。 |
| 187 | If Britain is going to compete in the world in an age of rapid | 如果英国在迅速的时代 在世界上竞争 |
| 188 | technological change, it needs to be easy to build things here, to try new things. | 技术变革,需要很容易在这里建造东西,尝试新的东西. |
| 189 | Our financial services sector, for example, | 例如,我们的金融服务部门, |
| 190 | one of this country's greatest assets is now more regulated than its competitors. | 这个国家最大的资产之一 现在比它的竞争者更受管制 |
| 191 | That's why two weeks ago, I announced our plan to cut red tape for the city | 所以两周前 我宣布了我们计划 为城市削减繁文缛节 |
| 192 | and unleash up to 450 billion pounds of new lending. | 发行高达4500亿磅的新贷款 |
| 193 | That's the kind of thinking Burnham needs. | 这就是伯纳姆需要的 |
| 194 | Four hundred and fifty billion pounds without borrowing, without more taxing. | 四千五百亿斤不借,不多税. |
| 195 | He needs to champion the businesses, the risk takers, the wealth creators, | 他需要支持企业 冒险者 创造财富者 |
| 196 | the employers who get this country moving, not champion having more politicians. | 让这个国家移动的雇主, 而不是支持有 更多的政治家。 |
| 197 | So much of the rhetoric that comes out of left wing politicians from people | 左翼政治人物的言辞 |
| 198 | like Louise Haig or Neil Lawson and others advising Andy Burnham. | 比如路易丝·海格或尼尔·劳森等人建议安迪·伯纳姆. |
| 199 | So much of that rhetoric is that business is evil. | 如此之多的言论是,商业是邪恶的。 |
| 200 | The wealth creation is evil. | 财富创造是邪恶的。 |
| 201 | It isn't new ideas, innovation, capital. | 这不是新思想,创新,资本. |
| 202 | That's what drives progress. | 这就是推动进步的原因。 |
| 203 | That's what improves our lives. | 这就是改善我们生活的方法。 |
| 204 | Kirstana had plenty of good advice, not least of all for me. | 基尔斯塔纳有很多好建议 对我而言更是 |
| 205 | But I wasn't the only one. | 但我不是唯一的一个。 |
| 206 | Many others gave him good advice, including Tony Blair. | 许多其他人都向他提出了好的建议,包括托尼·布莱尔. |
| 207 | Did he listen? | 他听了吗? |
| 208 | No, he didn't. | 不,他没有。 |
| 209 | And now he's gone. | 现在他走了 |
| 210 | Andy Burnham should not make that same mistake. | 安迪·伯纳姆不应该犯同样的错误 |
| 211 | I would be very happy to sit down with him. | 我很乐意和他坐下来 |
| 212 | I quite like Andy Burnham. | 我很喜欢安迪·伯纳姆 |
| 213 | He's very genial. | 他很有天赋 |
| 214 | He's very personable. | 他很有个性 |
| 215 | I would be very happy to sit down with him, show him our plans. | 我很乐意和他坐下来 告诉他我们的计划 |
| 216 | They are public. | 他们是公开的。 |
| 217 | Share with him the alternative King's speech we set out at the beginning | 和他分享国王的另类演讲 我们一开始阐述 |
| 218 | of this session that shows how a lot of this could be achieved. | 这表明可以实现许多目标。 |
| 219 | In the national interest, I would be happy to lend him | 为了国家利益,我很乐意借给他 |
| 220 | conservative votes in parliament to pass tough legislation | 议会中保守派投票通过强硬立法 |
| 221 | that his backbenchers don't have the stomach for. | 他的背部没有胃口 |
| 222 | No one in this country wants a prime minister held over a barrel | 这个国家没有人想要一个 被桶装的首相 |
| 223 | by a load of left wing MPs. | 由一负荷的左翼议员。 |
| 224 | If Andy Burnham wants to be the first Labour prime minister | 如果安迪·伯纳姆想当第一任工党总理 |
| 225 | to leave office with unemployment lower than when he came in, | 失业人数比他来时少, |
| 226 | he needs to get a grip of the party he is already leading. | 他需要控制一下他已经领导的党 |
| 227 | He needs to put an end to the chaos and the speculation. | 他需要结束混乱和猜测. |
| 228 | Mr. Burnham is clearly desperate to be in charge, | Burnham先生显然急于当上主管 |
| 229 | but prime minister is not a ceremonial position. | 但首相不是礼仪性的职位 |
| 230 | He doesn't have a plan beyond telling mayors to go and sort it out. | 他除了告诉市长去解决问题以外没有别的计划. |
| 231 | This is not good enough. | 这还不够好。 |
| 232 | There is a country to govern. | 有国家可以管理。 |
| 233 | Devolved mayors are not going to fund the defence investment plan. | 权力下放的市长不会为国防投资计划提供资金。 |
| 234 | He needs to come to parliament, tell us what he wants to do | 他需要来议会 告诉我们他想做什么 |
| 235 | and face some questions from MPs, | 面对议员们的一些问题, |
| 236 | the people elected to hold the government to account. | 被选为政府负责人的人 |
| 237 | Giving speeches in Manchester and not taking any questions | 在曼彻斯特演讲 而不回答任何问题 |
| 238 | is simply not good enough. | 根本不够好。 |
| 239 | Britain cannot afford a summer of chaos. | 英国负担不起混乱的夏天. |
| 240 | Not another one. | 不是另一个。 |
| 241 | We cannot afford three months in limbo. | 我们负担不起三个月的禁闭期。 |
| 242 | We cannot afford three months without a government. | 没有政府,我们负担不起三个月的费用。 |
| 243 | Andy Burnham应该推迟夏季议会休会 | |
| 244 | by just a day or two, just a day or two. | 只要一两天,只要一两天 |
| 245 | Come to the House and tell us his plan for this country. | 到议会来告诉我们他对这个国家的计划 |
| 246 | This is not a game. | 这不是一个游戏。 |
| 247 | It should not be a soap opera. | 这不应该是肥皂剧。 |
| 248 | If he wants to be the leader of our country, | 如果他想成为我们国家的领袖 |
| 249 | it is time to start acting like it. | 是时候开始这样了 |
| 250 | Thank you, everyone. | 谢谢大家 |
| 251 | So unlike some people who are giving speeches today, | 所以和今天演讲的人不同 |
| 252 | I will be taking questions from the media. | 我会接受媒体的提问 |
| 253 | And let's start with ITV. | 从ITV开始吧 |
| 254 | Jasmine Cameron Chileshi. | 贾斯汀·卡梅伦·智利希. |
| 255 | I hope I said that right. | 我希望我说的对 |
| 256 | Yes, you did. | 是的,你这样做。 |
| 257 | Jasmine Cameron Chileshi, ITV新闻网. | |
| 258 | Andy Burnham会提出计划 | |
| 259 | for a so-called Number 10 North. | 为了所谓的北十号 |
| 260 | You've served in cabinet before. | 你以前在内阁任职过 |
| 261 | How realistic is it to have, in effect, two centres of power? | 实际上有两个权力中心是多么现实? |
| 262 | And secondly, Mr Burnham's broader argument | 其次,伯纳姆先生更广泛的论点 |
| 263 | is that he can deliver radical change | 他能够带来巨大的变化 |
| 264 | but within the current physical rules. | 但是在目前的物理规则范围内 |
| 265 | Do you think that's possible? | 你觉得这有可能吗? |
| 266 | And if not, should there be an early general election? | 如果没有,应该提前举行大选吗? |
| 267 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 268 | So thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 269 | I don't think it is really feasible to have Number 10 in the North. | 我认为在北方有十号并不可行. |
| 270 | As a Secretary of State, there were many times | 作为国务大臣,曾经有过很多次 |
| 271 | that I had to go to Number 10 and then go into parliament. | 我不得不去10号 然后进入议会。 |
| 272 | I wouldn't have been able to do that | 我本来是做不到的 |
| 273 | if I had to go up and down to Manchester at the same time. | 如果我必须上下 曼彻斯特同时。 |
| 274 | We did have, for instance, a second treasury campus in the North. | 我们确实有,比如说, 在北方的第二个国库校园。 |
| 275 | That was for civil servants. | 那是给公务员的 |
| 276 | It was for other ministers. | 是给其他大臣的 |
| 277 | It was not for the prime minister. | 不是为了总理 |
| 278 | I don't think he really understands what it is that he is saying. | 我觉得他不太明白自己在说什么 |
| 279 | He's been out of parliament for nearly 10 years. | 他退出议会近十年. |
| 280 | I think Andy Burnham has forgotten how a lot of things work. | 我想安迪·伯纳姆已经忘了很多事情是如何运作的. |
| 281 | I don't think there actually will be a Number 10 in the North. | 我觉得北方不会有十号 |
| 282 | And then you asked about the fiscal rules and a general election. | 然后你问财政规则和大选. |
| 283 | It is possible to have radical change even within Rachel Reeves' fiscal rules. | 甚至有可能在瑞秋·里夫斯的财政规则范围内发生根本性的改变. |
| 284 | The radical change has to be that five-point plan that I talked about. | 根本的变化必须是我所说的五点计划。 |
| 285 | You can cut energy costs within those rules. | 你可以在那些规则范围内削减能源成本。 |
| 286 | You can cut taxes. | 你可以减税 |
| 287 | You can cut red tape. | 你可以删繁体字 |
| 288 | You can champion business. | 你可以赢得生意 |
| 289 | You can have flexible labour markets and get people working again. | 你可以有灵活的劳动力市场,让人们重新工作。 |
| 290 | But there is one thing that he should not do. | 但有一件事他不应该这样做。 |
| 291 | John Healey told us that the defence investment plan was not funded | 约翰 海利告诉我们国防投资计划没有资金 |
| 292 | and that he was not able to keep our country safe with the money he was being given. | 他无法用他得到的钱保护我们的国家 |
| 293 | If Andy Burnham signs off on that defence investment plan | 如果安迪·伯纳姆签署国防投资计划 |
| 294 | or if he does not find the money, then I do think he should call a general election | 或者如果他没找到钱 那么我认为他应该召开大选 |
| 295 | because we can't all pretend that John Healey didn't say what he said. | 因为我们不能都假装约翰·海利没有说出他说的话 |
| 296 | We all know for a fact that our country is not being properly protected | 我们都知道,我们的国家没有得到适当的保护 |
| 297 | and that should be his first priority, not devolving to regional mayors. | 这应该是他的第一优先事项,而不是向区域市长转移。 |
| 298 | Rob Powell, Sky News. | 罗布·鲍威尔,天空新闻. |
| 299 | Hi, thank you, Rob Powell, Sky News. | 嗨 谢谢你 罗布·鲍威尔 天空新闻 |
| 300 | Kemmy Badenock 几个月来你一直要求Keir Starmer辞职 | |
| 301 | He's now said he will. | 他现在说他会的 |
| 302 | But you now seem annoyed that there's a power vacuum and no decisions are being made. | 但你现在似乎很烦恼 权力真空,没有做决定 |
| 303 | Don't you think there's an irony there? | 你不觉得那里有讽刺吗? |
| 304 | And isn't this just the inevitable result of a PM changing | 这不是首相改变的必然结果吗? |
| 305 | something you've been working pretty hard in recent months to make happen? | 最近几个月你一直很努力地工作 |
| 306 | No, it's not the inevitable result of a prime minister changing. | 不 这不是首相变换的必然结果 |
| 307 | It is the inevitable result of Andy Burnham wanting to be prime minister, | 这是安迪·伯纳姆想当首相的必然结果 |
| 308 | but not having a plan. | 但没有计划 |
| 309 | People not having plans is why we are changing prime minister so often. | 我们为何经常更换总理, |
| 310 | And if Andy Burnham comes in without a plan, he is going to have another short tenure. | 如果安迪·伯纳姆没有计划就进来 他将会有另一个短暂的任期 |
| 311 | Making announcements is not the same thing as having a plan. | 发布公告和有计划不一样 |
| 312 | So I want a swift and steady transition | 所以我想要一个快速而稳定的过渡 |
| 313 | because I want to be able to ask the prime minister what he is doing for or to our country. | 因为我想问总理 他为我们国家做什么 |
| 314 | I am the leader of the opposition. | 我是反对党领袖。 |
| 315 | That's my job. | 这是我的工作。 |
| 316 | I'm not able to do my job. | 我无法做我的工作。 |
| 317 | I was elected constitutionally to do this. | 我被宪法选举来这样做。 |
| 318 | I want to be able to do my job, which is hold the government to account. | 我想做我的工作 也就是追究政府的责任 |
| 319 | And right now, there's not really anyone to hold to account. | 而现在,真的没有人要负责。 |
| 320 | And the Labour ministers are too busy trying to sort out jobs for themselves. | 工党部长也忙着自己找工作 |
| 321 | That is not right. | 这是不对的。 |
| 322 | Catherine Foster, GB News. | 凯瑟琳·福斯特,GB新闻. |
| 323 | Thank you, Catherine Foster, GB News. | 谢谢你 凯瑟琳·福斯特 GB新闻 |
| 324 | You said you quite like Andy Burnham. | 你说你很喜欢安迪·伯纳姆 |
| 325 | He seems to be undecided on his chancellor. | 他似乎还没有决定他的总统。 |
| 326 | So perhaps you could give him a bit of advice. | 也许你可以给他点建议 |
| 327 | Sharon Graham has said of Ed Miliband that he would put a noose around the neck of employers, | 莎伦·格雷厄姆对爱德·米利班德说过 他会在雇主的脖子上套上绞索 |
| 328 | but West Streeting wants to equalise capital gains tax with income tax. | 但西街公司希望将资本收益税与所得税相等。 |
| 329 | Who do you think would be perhaps his least bad option? | 你觉得谁会是他最坏的选择? |
| 330 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 331 | I've always said that the problem was not just Kirsten Alma. | 我一直说问题不只在于柯尔斯滕·阿尔玛 |
| 332 | The problem was the whole Labour Party. | 问题是整个工党 |
| 333 | There aren't many good options. | 没有什么好选择。 |
| 334 | They couldn't even pick a prime minister from the 400 people in Parliament. | 他们甚至不能从议会中的400人中挑选一位总理. |
| 335 | They had to go and get the mayor of Manchester to do it. | 他们只好去叫曼彻斯特市长去做. |
| 336 | I do know that it should not be Ed Miliband. | 我知道不该是艾德·米利班德 |
| 337 | I know that it should not be Ed Miliband. | 我知道不该是艾德·米利班德 |
| 338 | He is the single person who has done the most to deindustrialise our country | 他是唯一一个为我国非工业化 做出最大努力的人 |
| 339 | and make us poorer. | 让我们变得更穷 |
| 340 | He should not be rewarded with an even more powerful job | 他不应该被奖励 一个更强大的工作 |
| 341 | where he can completely bankrupt the country. | 在那里他可以完全破产 这个国家。 |
| 342 | So it's slim pickings, I have to admit. | 所以这是小挑剔, 我必须承认。 |
| 343 | But absolutely not Ed Miliband. | 但绝对不是埃德·米利班德。 |
| 344 | That would be a disaster for the country. | 这会是这个国家的灾难。 |
| 345 | "电讯报"的Genevieve Hall-Allen. | |
| 346 | Louise Hay, who you've mentioned and who is a prominent figure in Andy Burnham's circle, | 露易丝·海,你提到的 谁是安迪·伯纳姆圈子里的著名人物, |
| 347 | said last week that capital gains tax should be brought closer to income tax | 上周说,资本收益税应该更接近所得税 |
| 348 | to shift the tax system towards, and this is what she said, unproductive capital accumulation. | 将税收制度转向非生产性资本积累。 |
| 349 | What do you make of that? | 你觉得呢? |
| 350 | And if I may, as you said, Andy Burnham won't be taking questions from the media this morning | 如果我可以,就像你说的,安迪・伯纳姆 不会接受媒体的质疑 今天上午 |
| 351 | after his speech. | 在他的演讲之后。 |
| 352 | What do you think is behind that? | 你觉得背后是什么? |
| 353 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 354 | Well, it's so funny, you know, Andy Burnham doesn't like questions. | 这太有趣了 安迪·伯纳姆不喜欢提问 |
| 355 | Nigel Farage doesn't like questions. | 奈杰尔·法拉吉不喜欢提问. |
| 356 | Even Keir Starmer in Palme, he doesn't like questions. | 即使是帕尔默的基尔·斯塔默也不喜欢提问. |
| 357 | If you want somebody who can answer questions, please come to me. | 如果你想找一个能回答问题的人 请来找我 |
| 358 | I will answer all of your questions. | 我会回答你的所有问题。 |
| 359 | I will answer all the questions. | 我会回答所有的问题。 |
| 360 | But you asked about Louise Hay. | 但你问了露易丝·海的事 |
| 361 | I can't believe that we're even talking about Louise Hay again. | 真不敢相信我们又在谈论路易斯·海 |
| 362 | I can't believe it. | 不可思议. |
| 363 | Her private sector experience was mostly about taking mobile phones from the company | 她的私人经验主要是从公司拿手机 |
| 364 | and declaring them stolen. | 并宣布他们被盗。 |
| 365 | I don't think we should be listening to anything she's got to say about capital gains tax. | 我觉得我们不应该听她所说的资本收益税 |
| 366 | She completely misses the point that if you equalize capital gains tax and income tax, | 她完全忽略了 如果你把资本收益税和所得税等同起来 |
| 367 | you will completely crush investment in this country. | 你会完全压抑投资 在这个国家。 |
| 368 | People are taking risks. | 人们正在冒险。 |
| 369 | She doesn't get it. | 她不明白这一点。 |
| 370 | Ryan Sabie from The Sun, please. | "太阳报"的瑞安·萨比,请。 |
| 371 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 372 | Can you guarantee that any Tory mayoralty and Tory local authorities won't make holidays | 你能保证任何Tory市长和Tory 地方当局不会放假吗? |
| 373 | more expensive by imposing the overnight visitor levy or the holiday tax, which is backed by | 征收过夜游客税或假日税,费用更高。 |
| 374 | both Andy Burnham and this Labour government as part of fiscal devolution? | Andy Burnham和这个工党政府 也是财政转移的一部分? |
| 375 | Well, I've had conversations with my local mayors and local council leaders. | 我和我的市长和地方议会领导人谈过了 |
| 376 | This is not a policy that we support. | 这不是我们支持的政策。 |
| 377 | If you can find a Conservative leader of a council who's doing that, send them my way | 如果你能找到一个保守党领袖 谁这样做,让他们听我的 |
| 378 | and I will have a word. | 我会有一个字。 |
| 379 | Christian Calgui from The Mail, please. | 请收看《邮报》的克里斯蒂安·卡尔吉 |
| 380 | Thank you for the question. | 谢谢你的问候 |
| 381 | On the core issue of Andy's policy proposals of devolution, are you principally opposed | 关于安迪的权力下放政策提案的核心问题 你主要反对 |
| 382 | to more devolution or is actually the problem that power is too diffuse in British politics? | 还是英国政治权力过于分散的问题? |
| 383 | And do you think it's right for him to focus on disparities between the North and the South | 你觉得他应该关注南北差距吗? |
| 384 | or is that just grievance politics? | 还是只是抱怨政治? |
| 385 | So the problem, I think, is that devolution is not a silver bullet. | 因此,我认为,问题在于移交不是银弹。 |
| 386 | It is not an answer. | 这不是一个答案。 |
| 387 | It is a process. | 这是一个过程。 |
| 388 | If you devolve to people who can't do the job, you just recreate the problem elsewhere | 如果你把工作交给不能做的人, 你就在别的地方重现问题 |
| 389 | and make it harder for central government to fix it. | 让中央政府更难解决 |
| 390 | How do we go about picking our mayors? | 我们如何选择我们的市长? |
| 391 | If you are picking people who think it's just a popularity contest or I'm a celebrity, | 如果你选的人 谁认为这只是一个受欢迎的比赛 或者我是名人, |
| 392 | they're not actually going to be able to do that job. | 他们实际上不会做到这一点。 |
| 393 | I think a lot of politicians hide behind devolution because they don't have any | 我认为很多政客躲在权力移交背后 因为他们没有 |
| 394 | answers. | 答问. |
| 395 | So they say, well, why don't we let local people sort it out? | 所以他们说,为什么我们不让当地人解决? |
| 396 | But they don't give them the real tools, the power. | 但他们并没有给他们真正的工具 力量 |
| 397 | They don't change the regulation. | 他们不会改变规定。 |
| 398 | Right now, what's wrong with our country? | 现在,我们国家怎么了? |
| 399 | We have extremely high energy costs. | 我们的能源成本极高。 |
| 400 | What's a local mayor going to do about that? | 当地市长会怎么做? |
| 401 | We have we have seen so much go wrong because politicians have been outsourcing decisions, | 我们已经看到太多错误 因为政客们一直在外包决定 |
| 402 | outsourcing responsibility to councils, to councils, quangos, OBR. | 将责任外包给理事会、理事会、quangos、OBR。 |
| 403 | No one is making decisions. | 没有人作出决定。 |
| 404 | And what I hear when Andy Burnham talks about more devolution is that he doesn't actually | 当我听到安迪・伯纳姆 谈论更多权力转移时 他其实不是 |
| 405 | know what he wants to do. | 知道他想做什么吗? |
| 406 | And so he wants to pass the problem somewhere else. | 所以他想把问题传到别的地方 |
| 407 | We know what we want to do. | 我们知道我们想做什么。 |
| 408 | We set out an alternative king's speech. | 我们提出了另一个国王的演讲。 |
| 409 | It is about us using the power that we have been given. | 它涉及我们利用我们得到的力量。 |
| 410 | We took powers from the EU. | 我们从欧盟夺去权力。 |
| 411 | Let's use them. | 让我们使用它们。 |
| 412 | Why are so many politicians so scared? | 为什么这么多政客这么害怕? |
| 413 | I think Andy Burnham is afraid of taking difficult decisions. | 我认为安迪·伯纳姆害怕做出艰难的决定. |
| 414 | He wants to be liked. | 他想被喜欢。 |
| 415 | He wants to be popular. | 欲为大众. |
| 416 | But politicians who want popularity always end up running away from tough decisions. | 但那些想要受欢迎的政客总是会逃避艰难的决定。 |
| 417 | I'm not scared of taking tough decisions. | 我不怕做出艰难的决定 |
| 418 | And that's what I will do. | 这就是我会做的。 |
| 419 | David Lynch from P.A. | P. A. 大卫·林奇. |
| 420 | Hello, Mrs. | 哈罗,太太 |
| 421 | Beardon. | 熊顿. |
| 422 | Thank you very much, David Lynch from P.A. | 非常感谢,P. A. |
| 423 | Just wanted to start by asking, you've just spoken about the prospect of a general election, | 我只想先问一下 你刚刚谈到大选的前景 |
| 424 | but only if the government can't sign off on a defence investment plan. | 但只有政府不能签署国防投资计划 |
| 425 | Is the Conservative Party ready to fight a general election? | 保守党准备好参加大选了吗? |
| 426 | And secondly, I just wanted to ask about a row that you found yourself involved in with | 第二,我只是想问一行 你发现自己参与其中 |
| 427 | Bridget Phillipson last week. | 布丽姬·菲利普森上周。 |
| 428 | During the course of that row, you said that scrapping VAT exemption on private schools | 这行期间 你说要取消私立学校的增值税豁免 |
| 429 | was akin to the Gestapo. | 和盖世太保差不多 |
| 430 | Why do you think that is? | 为什么? |
| 431 | Could you explain your thinking behind? | 你能解释你背后的想法吗? |
| 432 | Well, that's not quite what happened. | 事情不是这样的 |
| 433 | But first of all, we are absolutely ready to fight a general election. | 但首先,我们绝对准备参加大选。 |
| 434 | Absolutely ready. | 完全准备好了 |
| 435 | We saw the results in Aberdeen South, 50% of the vote, because we can unite the country. | 我们在阿伯丁南方看到了结果,50%的选票,因为我们可以统一国家. |
| 436 | There are all sorts of people talking about uniting the right. | 有种种众生说合右. |
| 437 | It's about uniting the country, for goodness sake, behind a centre right agenda, which | 这是关于团结国家, 看在上帝的份上, 背后一个中心正确的议程, |
| 438 | only the Conservatives can do. | 只有保守派能办到 |
| 439 | No other party can do what we can do in terms of uniting the country behind a sensible centre | 任何其他方面都无法将国家团结在一个明智的中心 |
| 440 | right agenda. | 正确的议程。 |
| 441 | Too many people think that it's all about elections. | 太多人认为这都是选举问题. |
| 442 | Winning an election is the beginning, not the end. | 赢得选举是开始,而不是结束。 |
| 443 | It's about how you are going to govern. | 这是关于你如何治理。 |
| 444 | What is the point of re-electing an Andy Burnham if he does not want to fund the defence | 重新选举一个安迪·伯纳姆 还有什么意义 如果他不想资助辩护 |
| 445 | investment plan? | 投资计划? |
| 446 | What is the point of electing a Nigel Farage who doesn't even have a defence spokesman? | 奈杰尔·法拉吉连国防发言人都没有,选举他有什么意义? |
| 447 | He's got a hundred unvetted MPs, a few Tory stragglers and Sarah Poechin. | 他有一百名未受审查的议员,少数托里散骑兵和莎拉·坡钦. |
| 448 | Is that a government? | 那是政府吗? |
| 449 | I don't think so. | 亦不见. |
| 450 | And on your second point, I stand very much by all of the words I've said about Bridget | 关于你的第二点, 我非常支持我所说的关于布里奇特的话 |
| 451 | Philipson. | 飞利浦森. |
| 452 | I said them on the floor of the House of Commons. | 我在下议院的地板上说了 |
| 453 | The point you're making, you asked specifically about Gestapo officer, that wasn't necessarily | 你具体问起盖世太保警官时 说的不一定是 |
| 454 | in the last few days, that was a while ago. | 过去几天,那是一段时间前。 |
| 455 | And that was because I said she's putting ideology above the welfare of children. | 那是因为我说她把意识形态置于儿童福利之上。 |
| 456 | That was what that reference was about. | 这就是那个提法的目的。 |
| 457 | This is a woman who has displaced 40,000 children. | 这名妇女使40 000名儿童流离失所。 |
| 458 | So many schools have closed. | 许多学校已经关闭。 |
| 459 | She said she was doing it to increase teacher numbers. | 她说她这样做是为了增加教师人数. |
| 460 | There are now 2,000 fewer teachers than we had before and 0% of teachers think she's | 现在比以前少了两千名老师 百分之零的老师认为她是 |
| 461 | doing a good job. | 干得不错 |
| 462 | 0% of teachers think Bridget Philipson is a good job. | 百分之零的教师认为布里奇特·菲利普森是一个好工作. |
| 463 | What we should be doing is holding her to account and not asking if I said hurty words | 我们要做的是追究她的责任 而不是问我是否说了恶意的话 |
| 464 | about Bridget Philipson. | 关于布里奇特·菲利普森。 |
| 465 | She is the one destroying their futures. | 是她毁了他们的未来 |
| 466 | I am the one defending those children. | 我才是保护这些儿童的人。 |
| 467 | And I will continue to do so. | 我将继续这样做。 |
| 468 | John Walker from The Express, please. | 请收看快报的约翰·沃克 |
| 469 | Hello. | 哈罗 |
| 470 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 471 | Given that we face this gap where nobody seems to be running the country and Labour's | 鉴于我们面临这个差距 似乎没有人 管理这个国家和工党 |
| 472 | leadership rules are entirely a matter for them, they're not part of the Constitution, | 领导规则完全属于他们的事情, 他们不是宪法的一部分, |
| 473 | would you like to see them bring forward the anointment of the new Prime Minister? | 你希望看到他们提出新总理的授意吗? |
| 474 | Also, would you like them to speed up the process? | 另外,你希望他们加快进程吗? |
| 475 | Sorry, did you say the annulment? | 对不起,你说废除? |
| 476 | Annointment. | 膏药. |
| 477 | Annointment, yes. | 膏药,是的。 |
| 478 | Combination. | 结合. |
| 479 | Also, very briefly, you mentioned the fiscal rules. | 而且,非常简短地说,你提到了财政规则。 |
| 480 | I know you have your golden rule, but do you support Rachel Reeves' fiscal rules? | 我知道你有你的黄金规则 但你支持Rachel Reeves的财政规则吗? |
| 481 | Would you stick to them? | 你会坚持他们吗? |
| 482 | So, in terms of the process, I do think that if Andy Burnham is not ready to be Prime | 因此,在这个过程中,我确实认为如果安迪·伯纳姆没有准备好成为总理. |
| 483 | Minister, then he should not have rushed to take the job. | 大臣,那他不应该匆忙去接这份工作 |
| 484 | The country should not have to wait for him to work out what it is that he thinks. | 国家不应该等他想出他的想法。 |
| 485 | Because as we saw in the run-up to the last budget, when you have that limbo, decisions, | 因为正如我们在上一个预算的筹备阶段所看到的那样, 当你有那种无稽之谈,决定, |
| 486 | often permanent decisions, are made. | 经常作出永久性的决定。 |
| 487 | Some people will not invest in this country. | 有些人不会在这个国家投资。 |
| 488 | Some people will leave the country. | 有些人会离开这个国家 |
| 489 | We need to have some certainty and some clarity. | 我们需要有一定的确定性和一些明确性。 |
| 490 | And when it comes to fiscal rules, every government has a right to set their own fiscal | 而关于财政规则,每个政府都有权利制定自己的财政 |
| 491 | rules and send a signal to the market. | 规则和向市场发出信号。 |
| 492 | It's not really about her fiscal rules. | 这不是关于她的财政规则。 |
| 493 | We've said what we're going to do. | 已说诸法. |
| 494 | We have our golden economic rule. | 我们有我们的黄金经济规则。 |
| 495 | It's really about showing that you have got an agenda for the country within those fiscal | 这真的是为了表明你有一个 国家的议程 在这些财政中 |
| 496 | rules. | 规则。 |
| 497 | Labour don't have an agenda. | 劳动没有议程. |
| 498 | They assumed that they'd want a landslide because people loved their manifesto. | 他们认为他们想要塌方 因为人们喜欢他们的宣言 |
| 499 | That was not the reason. | 这不是原因。 |
| 500 | They are now drifting. | 他们正在漂流。 |
| 501 | We cannot afford drift. | 我们负担不起漂流。 |
| 502 | That's why we already have an alternative King's speech, an alternative plan for | 这就是为什么我们已经有一个替代国王的演讲, 一个替代计划 |
| 503 | government ready. | 政府准备好了 |
| 504 | No other party, not Labour, not the Lib Dems, not the Greens, not Reform, not Andy | 没有别的政党,没有工党,没有Lib Dems,没有绿党,没有改革,没有安迪 |
| 505 | Burnham. | 伯纳姆 |
| 506 | None of them have a plan for government, but we do. | 他们都没有政府计划 但我们有 |
| 507 | Noah Hoffman, Spectator. | 诺亚·霍夫曼,旁观者. |
| 508 | Thank you, Kemi. | 谢谢你,凯米。 |
| 509 | The Spectator recently revealed that some people in the Labour Party seem to believe | 观察家最近透露 工党有些人似乎相信 |
| 510 | that Andy Burnham is going to be Labour's first female leader. | 安迪・伯纳姆将成为工党的第一位女性领袖 |
| 511 | And I was wondering, as a female leader of a major party, and I know you don't take | 我在想,作为一个大党的女领袖 我知道你不会接受 |
| 512 | to identity politics too well, what you make of this revelation. | 对政治的认同度太高了 你对这个启示的看法 |
| 513 | I don't know what to say. | 僧无语. |
| 514 | The idea that Andy Burnham is Labour's first female prime minister shows that that | 安迪·伯纳姆是工党第一位女总理的想法表明 |
| 515 | party still doesn't know what a woman is. | 派对还是不知道女人是什么 |
| 516 | But I've also found it very interesting how Labour women have been so much in a | 但我也觉得非常有趣的是 工党妇女是如何在 |
| 517 | hurry to carry his bags and be his handmaiden and be at the front of his photo | 赶快拿起他的包 做他的婢女 坐在他照片的前面 |
| 518 | call. | 打电话 |
| 519 | Why would you allow yourselves to be used as window dressing in this way? | 为什么你会让自己 被这样用来装窗户? |
| 520 | We are on our fourth female leader because our party is a meritocracy. | 我们是第四位女性领袖,因为我们的政党是精英政治。 |
| 521 | We don't do quotas. | 我们不做配额。 |
| 522 | We don't do identity politics. | 我们不做身份政治。 |
| 523 | We just let the best person apply for the job. | 我们只是让最好的人申请这份工作。 |
| 524 | And maybe Labour should think about doing that one of these years. | 也许工党应该考虑 这样做的一年。 |
| 525 | Emilio Casalicchio from Politico, please. | 埃米利奥·卡萨利奇奥 来自政治家,请。 |
| 526 | Hi. | 顿 |
| 527 | Sorry. | 对不起 |
| 528 | Thank you very much. | 谢谢 |
| 529 | Emilio from Politico. | 来自波利蒂科的埃米利奥. |
| 530 | Got to change the subject slightly. | 得稍微改变一下话题 |
| 531 | Can I ask what you think about the US-Iran supposed peace deal if it holds? | 我能问问你对美伊和平协议的看法吗? |
| 532 | Obviously, it sees the US paying 225 billion pounds to Iran on top of lifting | 显然,它看到美国支付 225亿英镑 伊朗在升起之上 |
| 533 | sanctions. | 制裁。 |
| 534 | And there's no clear nuclear element that changes the pre-war position. | 而且没有明确的核元素可以改变战前的位置. |
| 535 | What do you think about the deal and do you think the war was worth it? | 你觉得这笔交易怎么样 你觉得战争值得吗? |
| 536 | So it definitely was not worth that deal. | 所以这绝对不值得交易。 |
| 537 | I don't know if there will be a ceasefire. | 我不知道是否会停火 |
| 538 | I feel like we've been led up and down the ceasefire hill so, so many times. | 我觉得我们被带领上下 停火山如此,如此,如此多次。 |
| 539 | I think that President Trump clearly had not had a plan to exit the war or he | 我认为川普总统显然没有 退出战争的计划,或者他 |
| 540 | thought it would be as easy as it was in Venezuela. | 认为这和委内瑞拉一样容易。 |
| 541 | But certainly coming out with us having to pay to use the straits of war leaves us | 但肯定要和我们一起出钱 利用战争的海峡 离开我们 |
| 542 | in a worse position than when we started. | 情况比我们开始的时候更糟 |
| 543 | Millie Cook from The Independent. | "独立报"的米莉·库克. |
| 544 | Thank you, Kamie. | 谢谢你 卡米 |
| 545 | Millie Cook from The Independent. | "独立报"的米莉·库克. |
| 546 | You've hit out at chaos in Labour. | 你在工党的混乱中打出。 |
| 547 | Do you accept that the benchmark for chaos at the moment appears to be the last | 你是否接受目前混乱的基准 似乎是最后一个 |
| 548 | Tory government? | 托里政府吗? |
| 549 | And how do you plan to escape that legacy before the next election? | 那你打算如何在下次选举之前 逃脱这个遗产? |
| 550 | Well, my job as leader of the opposition is to hold this current government to | 我作为反对派领袖的职责是 说服本届政府 |
| 551 | account and say what they're doing, not to hold previous conservative governments to | 并说出他们在做什么 而不是让以前的保守政府 |
| 552 | account. | 账户。 |
| 553 | But we paid for those things. | 但我们付了钱 |
| 554 | We paid for them with our biggest defeat ever in our 200 year history. | 我们付出了200年历史中最大的失败 |
| 555 | And we have learned from our mistakes. | 我们从错误中吸取了教训。 |
| 556 | And what I'm trying to do right now is actually explain to Labour that they are | 我现在想做的是 向工党解释他们 |
| 557 | making the same mistakes and they're making even worse mistakes than the ones | 犯同样的错误 他们犯比那些更糟糕的错误 |
| 558 | that we did. | 我们做到了。 |
| 559 | I'm not here to say that the Conservative Party was perfect. | 我不是来说保守党是完美的 |
| 560 | If it was, we would still be in government. | 如果是这样,我们仍会执政。 |
| 561 | But I have apologised for mistakes the party has made. | 但我为党犯的错误道歉了 |
| 562 | We've had policy changes like on net zero, like on immigration, where we will leave | 我们的政策有变化 就像净零, 像移民, 我们将离开那里 |
| 563 | the ECHR. | 《欧洲人权公约》。 |
| 564 | But we have an agenda and we have a plan. | 但我们有一个议程和一个计划。 |
| 565 | Many of the things that went wrong were about making announcements before having | 出错的很多事情 是在发布公告之前 |
| 566 | the plan ready. | 计划准备好了 |
| 567 | That is what Andy Burnham is doing again. | 这是安迪·伯纳姆再次做的。 |
| 568 | And I think it would be wrong of me to ignore that. | 我认为我忽略这一点是错误的。 |
| 569 | I think it's the important things for people to see that being pointed out. | 我认为人们应该看到这一点。 |
| 570 | And that's what I'm doing. | 亦复如是. 师曰. |
| 571 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 572 | Peter Walker from The Guardian, please. | 卫报的彼得·沃克 |
| 573 | Hi, Kimmy. | 顿惩μ |
| 574 | Can I just ask something about one of the things you mentioned in the | 我能问问你提到的一件事吗? |
| 575 | speech quite a lot, your energy policy. | 你的能源政策 |
| 576 | Even at the best estimates, North Sea Oil and Gas might provide the UK with maybe | 即使最好的估计 北海石油和天然气 也可能为英国提供 |
| 577 | 10, 20 years worth of energy. | 10,20年的能源价值。 |
| 578 | But if we had reliable energy of our own, for example, solar and wind, then that | 但是,如果我们有可靠的能量 我们自己的,例如太阳能和风能, 那么 |
| 579 | would give us energy in the long term. | 从长远来看,将给我们带来能量。 |
| 580 | Spain currently has some of Europe's | 西班牙目前拥有一些欧洲的 |
| 581 | lowest costs because it is invested in solar and wind for a very, very long time. | 成本最低,因为它投资 太阳能和风力非常,非常长的时间。 |
| 582 | But the Conservatives had effectively a de facto ban on onshore wind, which has | 但保守党实际上禁止了岸上风 |
| 583 | slowed things down a lot for the UK. | 对英国来说 事情减慢了很多 |
| 584 | That was part of a government you were in. | 那是你参与的政府的一部分 |
| 585 | Do you think in retrospect that was something you shouldn't have done? | 你回想起来你不该做的事吗? |
| 586 | Sue, this is a very good question and allows me to restate what our energy | 苏,这是一个非常好的问题 让我来重申我们的能量 |
| 587 | policy is. | 政策是。 |
| 588 | We need energy security, and that means we need to get it from | 我们需要能源安全 这意味着我们需要从 |
| 589 | everywhere, not just oil and gas, nuclear, renewables as well. | 不仅有石油和天然气,还有核能和可再生能源。 |
| 590 | The reason why the oil and gas drilling ban is so bad is because it also has an | 石油和天然气钻井禁令之所以如此糟糕,是因为它也有 |
| 591 | impact on the renewables industry. | 对可再生能源工业的影响。 |
| 592 | The supply chain serves them both. | 供应链为两者服务。 |
| 593 | Every time I've gone to Aberdeen and spoken to companies, they say that we work | 每次我去阿伯丁和公司谈话 他们说我们工作 |
| 594 | for renewables as well, but if we stop getting business from oil and gas, we | 但是如果我们不再从石油和天然气 获得生意,我们 |
| 595 | will disappear and we won't be able to help the renewable industry. | 我们无法帮助可再生工业。 |
| 596 | The problem with what Labour is doing is that it is not joined up. | 工党的问题在于它没有加入进来。 |
| 597 | But worse than that, what it is doing is making us even more dependent on China. | 但更糟糕的是,它所做的使我们更加依赖中国。 |
| 598 | We are killing our industry while relying on wind turbines that are made in China. | 我们依靠中国制造的风力涡轮机,正在毁灭我们的工业。 |
| 599 | I think I read a story about a lot of the supplies that have been sent here having | 我想我读过一个故事 说很多物资被送到这里 |
| 600 | asbestos in them. | 里面装有石棉 |
| 601 | This is this is just crazy. | 这太疯狂了 |
| 602 | How can we be doing this? | 我们怎么能这么做? |
| 603 | So this isn't about, you know, renewables versus fossil fuels or onshore versus | 因此,这不是,你知道, 可再生能源与化石燃料 或者岸上对 |
| 604 | offshore. | 离岸. |
| 605 | It is about having a plan that actually works. | 这是关于有一个实际可行的计划。 |
| 606 | We have spent the last few years working to cut emissions. | 过去几年来,我们一直在努力减少排放。 |
| 607 | It hasn't worked. | 没用的 |
| 608 | Other countries aren't following. | 其他国家没有跟随. |
| 609 | They're all paying lip service and we are bankrupting ourselves and | 他们都在口头上说 我们自己破产了 |
| 610 | deindustrializing. | 脱工业化. |
| 611 | What I want to do is bring back common sense. | 我想做的是恢复常识 |
| 612 | Common sense is the key to getting our energy policy and so many other policies | 常识是制定能源政策和许多其他政策的关键 |
| 613 | working for the benefit of people in this country. | 为了这个国家人民的利益而工作。 |
| 614 | Onshore wind, whether you think that was a good or bad thing to have done for 10 | 岸上风,不管你觉得这对10年来说是好事还是坏事 |
| 615 | years. | 岁月 |
| 616 | 问Claire Coutinho 影子能源部长 | |
| 617 | She can give you more detail on that. | 她可以给你更多细节 |
| 618 | Final question. | 最后问. |
| 619 | I was confused for a second. | 我有点困惑 |
| 620 | 是Rachel Reeves,不是FT的Rachel Reeves. 瑞秋·李维斯,是FT的 | |
| 621 | Rachel, please. | 瑞秋,请。 |
| 622 | You've spoken about Ed Miliband quite a few times this morning. | 今早你说过很多次爱德·米利班德 |
| 623 | Last week, you described him as a villain and you previously compared him to | 上周你形容他是个恶棍 你之前把他比作 |
| 624 | Nigerian military dictatorships. | 尼日利亚军事独裁政权. |
| 625 | Why do you hate him so much? | 你为什么这么恨他? |
| 626 | And do you think using language like that debases our politics? | 你觉得使用这种语言会贬低我们的政治吗? |
| 627 | He is the villain of the story of what's happening with energy. | 他是一个恶棍 故事正在用能量发生。 |
| 628 | There's so much language policing. | 语警多. |
| 629 | Why are you using this language? | 你为什么用这种语言? |
| 630 | Why are you using that language? | 你为什么用这种语言? |
| 631 | Look at what's happening in the country. | 观其境界. |
| 632 | Let's stop worrying about hurty words and look at the people who are hurting the | 我们不要再担心那些伤人的话了 看看那些伤人的人 |
| 633 | country. | 国家。 |
| 634 | But I do feel very strongly about this issue and you've touched on it. | 但我对此问题确实感到非常强烈,你已经触及了这个问题。 |
| 635 | Many people know that my childhood was spent in Nigeria. | 许多人都知道我的童年是在尼日利亚度过的。 |
| 636 | Nigeria is an oil producing country that never had any electricity. | 尼日利亚是一个从未用过电的石油生产国。 |
| 637 | Why? | 为什么? |
| 638 | Because it had bad policies from military dictatorships, people who they didn't | 因为它有糟糕的政策 从军事独裁, 人谁没有 |
| 639 | care what the country wanted. | 关心这个国家想要的 |
| 640 | They imposed socialism on the country. | 他们把社会主义强加于国家. |
| 641 | They took over all of the oil production. | 他们接管了所有石油生产。 |
| 642 | They had a national state or a producer and it failed. | 他们有一个国家或生产者,但失败了。 |
| 643 | Ed Miliband is actually doing the same thing. | 艾德·米利班德其实也在做同样的事情. |
| 644 | He wants to do more state control. | 他想做更多的国家控制。 |
| 645 | He has terrible policies that are reducing our capacity, reducing our energy | 他有可怕的政策 减少我们的能力, 减少我们的能量 |
| 646 | security. | 警卫。 |
| 647 | So having lived under both, I think I'm uniquely placed to make that comparison. | 因此,在两者之下生活, 我认为我独具一格 来做比较。 |
| 648 | Yes, Ed Miliband is acting like the Nigerian military dictators who ruined a | 是的,Ed Miliband在表现 像尼日利亚军事独裁者 谁毁了一个 |
| 649 | lot of that country's economic potential and made it so much poorer and in some | 这个国家的经济潜力很大, 使它更加贫困, 在一些 |
| 650 | cases bankrupted the country. | 案件使国家破产。 |
| 651 | We should not make the same mistake. | 我们不应该犯同样的错误。 |
| 652 | There are lessons to learn from bad public policy that destroys energy | 要从破坏能源的不良公共政策中吸取教训 |
| 653 | security. | 警卫。 |
| 654 | We will not, as conservatives, make the mistake that Labour has been making. | 作为保守派,我们不会犯工党一直在犯的错误。 |
| 655 | That's my view. | 这就是我的观点。 |
| 656 | Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. | 谢谢 女士们先生们 |
| 657 | Thank you so much. | 非常感谢 |
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