川普为何放任埃隆·马斯克接管美国政府效率改革 | 2025.
字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:02 | Donald Trump always said he wanted to drain the swamp. | 唐纳德·特朗普总是说他想把沼泽排干. |
| 0:05 | We're going to clean out the Washington swamp. | 我们要清理华盛顿沼泽 |
| 0:07 | I never knew it was this deep. | 我从不知道是这么深 |
| 0:09 | It's a catchphrase to describe what he claims afflicts Washington. | 这是用来形容他所声称的 困扰华盛顿的句子 |
| 0:13 | But unlike the beginning of his first term, | 但与他第一个任期的开始不同 |
| 0:15 | this time he has taken swift action. | 这次他已经迅速行动了 |
| 0:18 | And he knows just the guy to help. | 他只知道需要帮助的人 |
| 0:25 | Goj, perhaps you've heard of it. | 高杰,也许你听说过 |
| 0:31 | The Trump administration is allowing a private citizen | 川普政府允许一个私人公民 |
| 0:34 | to kind of have the keys and to do all this | 有钥匙和做这一切 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Donald Trump always said he wanted to drain the swamp. | 唐纳德·特朗普总是说他想把沼泽排干. |
| 2 | We're going to clean out the Washington swamp. | 我们要清理华盛顿沼泽 |
| 3 | I never knew it was this deep. | 我从不知道是这么深 |
| 4 | It's a catchphrase to describe what he claims afflicts Washington. | 这是用来形容他所声称的 困扰华盛顿的句子 |
| 5 | But unlike the beginning of his first term, | 但与他第一个任期的开始不同 |
| 6 | this time he has taken swift action. | 这次他已经迅速行动了 |
| 7 | And he knows just the guy to help. | 他只知道需要帮助的人 |
| 8 | Goj, perhaps you've heard of it. | 高杰,也许你听说过 |
| 9 | The Trump administration is allowing a private citizen | 川普政府允许一个私人公民 |
| 10 | to kind of have the keys and to do all this | 有钥匙和做这一切 |
| 11 | while Congress is basically letting it happen | 而国会基本上却任其发生 |
| 12 | and the judiciary is struggling to keep up. | 司法机构正在努力跟上步伐。 |
| 13 | We do need to delete entire agencies. | 我们需要删除整个机构。 |
| 14 | To do this, Elon Musk and members of his so-called | 为了做到这一点,伊隆·穆斯克和他的所谓 |
| 15 | Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, | 政府效率部,或两性平等部, |
| 16 | have been embedding themselves across the United States government. | 一直潜伏在美国政府内部 |
| 17 | Department of Education, Department of Energy, USAID, | 美援署教育部、能源部、 |
| 18 | Department of the Treasury, Department of Defense, Social Security, | 财政部、国防部、社会保障部、 |
| 19 | you name it, they are there. | 随便你怎么说,他们在那里。 |
| 20 | Musk has kind of been approaching all of this with a lot of glee. | 穆斯克一直用很多欢乐来接近这一切 |
| 21 | He's joked about being the Bobs from office space. | 他开玩笑说自己是办公室里的鲍勃 |
| 22 | What would you say you do here? | 你在这里做什么? |
| 23 | The idea of cutting the federal budget, I think, | 削减联邦预算的想法,我想, |
| 24 | is something that a lot of people left or right can get on board with. | 这是很多左或右的人可以接受的东西。 |
| 25 | The people voted for major government reform. | 人民投票支持政府重大改革. |
| 26 | But there's a lot of question about whether Elon actually knows | 但伊隆是否真的知道 有很多问题 |
| 27 | the ins and outs of these agencies enough to make these cuts, | 这些机构的进出足以进行这些削减, |
| 28 | or if he's simply going in with a chainsaw. | 或者如果他只是带着电锯进去 |
| 29 | I actually just call myself a humble tech support here. | 我其实只是称自己为谦卑的技术支持 |
| 30 | This feels a lot like private equity going into a new company. | 这感觉就像私募股权进入新公司 |
| 31 | You look at the books, you sell distressed assets. | 你看看那些书 卖掉那些破烂的资产 |
| 32 | This disruption is all part of the plan. | 这种干扰都是计划的一部分. |
| 33 | This is how Elon Musk runs his companies. | 这就是伊隆·穆斯克经营公司的方式. |
| 34 | But the federal government is going to run and operate | 但联邦政府要运作 |
| 35 | in a very different way than a rocket ship company. | 跟火箭飞船公司不一样 |
| 36 | So what are the consequences, intended or otherwise, | 所以,有什么后果,无论是有意还是无意的, |
| 37 | of trying to turn the federal government into a startup? | 试图把联邦政府变成一个起步者? |
| 38 | And is that what Trump and Musk really want? | 这就是特朗普和穆斯克真正想要的吗? |
| 39 | It all started with a meme. | 这一切都从一个meme开始。 |
| 40 | Lord Doge comes from this internet meme that Elon Musk is quite fond of. | 多吉勋爵来自伊隆·穆斯克非常喜欢的互联网迷语 |
| 41 | And so when he proposed this idea for a government cost-cutting agency, | 所以当他提出这个想法 一个政府削减成本的机构, |
| 42 | he created DOGE as a backronym for Department of Government Efficiency. | 他创建了DOGE,作为政府效率部的后台。 |
| 43 | DOGE has effectively replaced an agency called the U.S. Digital Service, | DOGE已经有效取代了一家名为美国数字服务的机构, |
| 44 | set up by President Barack Obama to modernize how the government uses technology. | 由奥巴马总统设立,目的是实现政府如何使用技术的现代化. |
| 45 | Now, Elon Musk says he wants to do that and a whole lot more. | 现在,埃隆·穆斯克说,他想这样做,而且更多。 |
| 46 | Musk's whole theory is that we have inflation and high interest rates | 穆斯克的整个理论是 通货膨胀和高利率 |
| 47 | because the government overspent and we're in a deficit. | 因为政府超支了 我们的赤字。 |
| 48 | So if they can really rein in spending and drop interest rates, | 所以如果他们真的能控制开支 降低利率 |
| 49 | that will help American consumers. | 这会帮助美国消费者。 |
| 50 | If we don't do this, America will go bankrupt. | 如果我们不这样做,美国就会破产. |
| 51 | They're looking for examples of what they call waste, fraud and abuse. | 他们正在寻找所谓的浪费,欺诈和虐待的例子. |
| 52 | Musk promised when he was on the campaign $2 trillion in budget cuts. | 穆斯克在竞选时承诺削减预算2万亿美元. |
| 53 | At least. | 起码 |
| 54 | I think we can do at least $2 trillion. | 我想我们至少可以做两万亿美元。 |
| 55 | Yeah! | 对! |
| 56 | He later backtracked to say we've got a good shot at getting $1 trillion in cuts. | 他后来回过头来说,我们有一个很好的机会 得到1万亿美元的削减。 |
| 57 | But even that would be quite a feat. | 但即使这样也会是一件很了不起的事 |
| 58 | Here's the problem. | 问题是... |
| 59 | While the national debt has been rising for years, | 虽然国债持续上升多年, |
| 60 | interest payments on U.S. debt have now climbed to its highest level since the 1990s. | 美国债务的利息支付现已攀升到1990年代以来的最高水平。 |
| 61 | In the last fiscal year, the U.S. Treasury Department spent $882 billion | 上个财政年度,美国财政部花了8 820亿美元 |
| 62 | on net interest payments, roughly $2.4 billion a day. | 大约每天24亿美元。 |
| 63 | So far, Doge's cuts don't hold a candle to those kinds of numbers. | 目前为止,Doge的伤口并没有为那些数字牵起蜡烛. |
| 64 | When you look at what he's actually cutting, it is not much. | 当你看他到底在剪什么时, 并不多。 |
| 65 | Doge started to put online a list of canceled contracts, canceled leases | Doge开始在网上 列出被取消的合同 被取消的租约 |
| 66 | that they say ended up somewhere in the neighborhood of $55 billion. | 他们说,最后在附近某处 550亿美元。 |
| 67 | But it didn't take long for people to really look at the details of what they said were cut | 但人们没多久才真正看到 他们所说的被切断的细节 |
| 68 | and find duplicate cuts, typos, miscalculations. | 并发现重复的切片,打字,错误的计算。 |
| 69 | In one line item, Doge mistakenly reported an $8 billion savings from a canceled contract, | 在一个细列项目中,Doge错误地报告了一笔被取消的合同节省了80亿美元, |
| 70 | which turned out to be an $8 million, not billion, contract. | 结果是八百万,不是十亿,合同 |
| 71 | With Musk at the top, he has mainly young men with tech backgrounds under him. | 以穆斯克为首,他主要拥有他手下的具有技术背景的年轻人. |
| 72 | But there are also some longtime Musk loyalists, like Steve Davis. | 但也有一些长期忠实于穆斯克的人,如史蒂夫·戴维斯. |
| 73 | Their approach has been to disregard norms and, in some cases, allegedly laws | 他们的做法是无视准则,有时甚至无视据称法律。 |
| 74 | about how federal agencies operate, especially regarding personnel and data. | 联邦机构如何运作,特别是在人事和数据方面。 |
| 75 | Doge came in without really a very clear understanding | 道格进来时没有非常清楚的理解 |
| 76 | of who works for the federal government, where, and what they do. | 在联邦政府工作的人, 在哪里,和他们做什么。 |
| 77 | Both Trump and Musk have cited false allegations of fraud and waste | 特朗普和穆斯克都引用了欺诈和浪费的虚假指控. |
| 78 | to justify mass firings across federal agencies. | 以证明在联邦各机构进行大规模射击是合理的。 |
| 79 | Some hasty moves have already led to embarrassing and potentially dangerous reversals. | 一些草率的举动已经导致了尴尬和潜在的危险的逆转. |
| 80 | Doge helped to fire or lay off roughly 350 people at the National Nuclear Security Administration. | Doge帮助国家核安全局解雇或解雇了大约350人。 |
| 81 | A lot of those people have very important jobs safeguarding the nation's nuclear weapons, | 其中很多人有非常重要的工作保护国家的核武器, |
| 82 | and now some of them are being hired back. | 现在有人被雇回来 |
| 83 | We will make mistakes, but we'll act quickly to correct any mistakes. | 我们会犯错误,但我们会迅速采取行动纠正任何错误. |
| 84 | So far, tens of thousands of federal employees have either been fired, resigned, | 到目前为止,成千上万的联邦雇员 要么被解雇, 辞职, |
| 85 | or taken Musk's buyout offer since Trump's inauguration, | 或者从特朗普就职后 接受穆斯克的买断提议 |
| 86 | a number that's expected to keep climbing in the weeks and months ahead. | 这个数字预计在未来数周和数月会不断攀升. |
| 87 | Elon Musk has a playbook for starting and turning around companies, | 伊隆·穆斯克有一本游戏本 用来创办和转身公司 |
| 88 | and that playbook involves massive layoffs and essentially just sowing chaos within the workforce. | 而那本游戏手册涉及大量裁员 基本上只是在员工队伍中制造混乱 |
| 89 | In Silicon Valley, you always hear, like, move fast and break things, and sometimes things do break. | 在硅谷,你总是听到一样, 移动快和打破的东西, 有时事情确实打破。 |
| 90 | In his companies, Musk has often made decisions and then had to overcorrect. | 在他的公司里,穆斯克经常做出决策,然后不得不过度纠正. |
| 91 | Elon has this tendency to take what he thinks worked in one corner of his world or universe | 伊隆有这种倾向 他认为工作 在他的世界或宇宙的一个角落 |
| 92 | and try to replicate that other places. | 并尝试复制 其他地方。 |
| 93 | When he took over Twitter, he immediately wanted to run it like a pure engineering company | 当他接管Twitter时,他立刻想像一个纯粹的工程公司一样运行它. |
| 94 | 和他经营Tesla或SpaceX的方式差不多 | |
| 95 | After he had already laid off about 50 percent of staff, | 在他解雇了50%的员工之后 |
| 96 | he sent this email to employees with the subject line, Fork in the Road. | 他给员工发了一封邮件 上面写着"叉在路上" |
| 97 | He basically gave employees a little more than 24 hours to decide, | 他基本上给了员工24小时多一点时间来决定 |
| 98 | like, do they want to be part of this new Twitter or not? | 他们到底想不想加入这个新推特? |
| 99 | And about more than 1,000 people ultimately said, this isn't for me, and they opted out. | 大约1000多人最终说, 这不是给我的, 他们选择了退出。 |
| 100 | Very early in the Trump administration, he sent out this email, subject line, Fork in the Road, | 在川普政府很早的时候, 他发了这封邮件, 主题线,叉在路上, |
| 101 | and it was basically asking people to sort of commit to this new way of doing things or get out. | 它基本上要求人们 致力于这种新的方式 做事情或离开。 |
| 102 | The consequences for how he handled the Twitter takeover are still happening. | 他处理Twitter收购事件的后果仍在发生。 |
| 103 | He laid off thousands of employees who are still suing him. | 他解雇了数以千计仍在起诉他的员工。 |
| 104 | He ultimately fired people that they had to try to hire back. | 他最终解雇了那些他们不得不试图雇佣回来的人. |
| 105 | Musk's experience in the private sector is, if he lays off too many people, he can just hire a few back. | 穆斯克在私营部门的经验是,如果他裁员太多,他可以只雇几个人回来. |
| 106 | That might be a little bit harder to do in the federal government. | 这在联邦政府可能有点难做。 |
| 107 | And there's a valid fear that the rash, quick, fast decisions he's making at the U.S. government | 也有理由担心 他正在美国政府做出迅速而迅速的决定 |
| 108 | could similarly lead to a lot of consequences down the line. | 类似地会导致许多后果 下线。 |
| 109 | Meanwhile, Congress, which has the power of the purse under the U.S. Constitution, has been mostly silent. | 同时,根据美国宪法拥有钱包权力的国会大多保持沉默. |
| 110 | And that's because Republicans control both houses of Congress. | 这是因为共和党人控制着国会两院. |
| 111 | You've seen a lot of lawsuits on behalf of federal workers filed by unions and other advocacy groups, | 你见过很多代表联邦工人的诉讼 工会和其他倡导团体, |
| 112 | but Doge is moving faster than them. | 但道格的动作比他们快 |
| 113 | Despite the judiciary's slow-moving nature, | 尽管司法缓慢发展 |
| 114 | some cuts have already been challenged as illegal, unconstitutional, or a breach of contract. | 一些削减已被质疑为非法、违宪或违约。 |
| 115 | And more lawsuits are sure to follow. | 还会有更多诉讼被提起 |
| 116 | The government has agreed to spend money. | 政府同意花钱 |
| 117 | It's in a contract with these groups. | 这是与这些团体的合同。 |
| 118 | It can't just take the money away. | 它不能就这样把钱拿走 |
| 119 | There are going to be lawsuits. | 会有诉讼的 |
| 120 | With the Supreme Court already involved in some cases, | 由于最高法院已经介入了一些案件, |
| 121 | legal observers contend that Trump's ultimate goal here is to give the Republican-appointed supermajority | 法律观察者认为特朗普在这里的最终目标是给予共和党任命的超级多数. |
| 122 | a chance to further expand executive power in his favor. | 他有机会进一步扩大行政权力 |
| 123 | In fact, Trump's current director of the Office of Management and Budget, Russell Vogt, | 事实上,特朗普现任管理和预算办公室主任罗素·沃格特, |
| 124 | is an author of Project 2025, a plan to expand executive power, slash federal budgets, and weaken regulatory oversight. | 计划扩大行政权力,削减联邦预算,削弱监管监督。 |
| 125 | I'm not sure that Elon Musk has read Project 2025, | 我不知道伊隆·穆斯克读过2025年计划 |
| 126 | but nevertheless, a lot of parts of Project 2025 are coming to fruition through Doge. | 然而,2025年项目的许多部分正在通过Doge取得成果。 |
| 127 | Russ Vogt and the OMB and Project 2025 and then Doge, they're sort of running on parallel tracks, | Russ Vogt 和 OMB 和 2025 计划,然后Doge, 他们有点运行 在平行的轨道上, |
| 128 | but I think they have similar missions. | 但我认为他们也有类似的任务 |
| 129 | The overall goal here with the Doge team is to help address the enormous deficit. | Doge团队的总目标是帮助解决巨大的赤字。 |
| 130 | It's not an optional thing. | 这不是可选的 |
| 131 | It is an essential thing. | 这是一件至关重要的事情。 |
| 132 | That's the reason I'm here. | 即为我故. |
| 133 | Despite Musk's purported benevolence, he and his multibillion-dollar empire | 尽管穆斯克有慈悲之心 他和他的数十亿帝国 |
| 134 | stand to gain a great deal from paring down the federal government. | 能够从削弱联邦政府中获得很多好处 |
| 135 | And the potential for conflicts of interest are everywhere. | 而潜在的利益冲突则无处不在. |
| 136 | SpaceX is regulated by the FAA, for example, and is a huge government contractor at both the Pentagon and with NASA. | 例如,SpaceX由FAA监管,是五角大楼和NASA的庞大政府承包商. |
| 137 | Is he really the best person to decide if, say, Boeing or Lockheed Martin, | 他真的是最好的人来决定 波音还是洛克希德・马丁 |
| 138 | which are both SpaceX competitors, should have contracts? | 谁是SpaceX的竞争者, 应该有合同? |
| 139 | He owns a car company, Tesla, that the National Highway Safety Traffic Administration regulates | 他拥有一家汽车公司Tesla,由国家公路安全交通管理局管理 |
| 140 | to make sure that these autonomous vehicles that he's trying to develop don't run over people. | 以确保他试图开发的这些自主车辆不会碾过人. |
| 141 | At least five inspector generals that we're looking into, Elon Musk's companies, | 我们所调查的至少五名督察长 埃隆·穆斯克的公司 |
| 142 | were fired by the Trump-Musk administration. | 被特朗普-穆斯克政府解雇. |
| 143 | These inspector generals who are independent, protected by law. | 这些监察员是独立的,受法律保护的。 |
| 144 | Musk claims that his transparency allows the public to call out any of these conflicts. | 穆斯克声称,他的透明度让公众可以召唤出其中的任何冲突. |
| 145 | It's not like I think I can get away with something. | 亦复不思议解脱. |
| 146 | I'll be scrutinized nonstop. | 我会随时接受审查 |
| 147 | But the official White House response leaves it up to him. | 但白宫的官方回应留给他决定. |
| 148 | The president was already asked and answered this question this week, | 总统本周已经回答这个问题 |
| 149 | and he said if Elon Musk comes across a conflict of interest with the contracts and the funding that Doge is overseeing, | 他说如果伊隆·穆斯克 与多吉监督的合同和资金有利益冲突 |
| 150 | then Elon will excuse himself from those contracts. | 然后伊隆会回避那些合同 |
| 151 | The fact that the White House is saying that he will self-police any potential conflicts is a conflict in and of itself. | 白宫说他会自行处理任何潜在的冲突,这本身就是冲突。 |
| 152 | Just last year, Elon Musk was promised $3 billion from close to 100 contracts with the federal government. | 就在去年,伊隆·穆斯克从与联邦政府的近100份合同中获得了30亿美元的承诺. |
| 153 | While first it was Twitter employees and then federal civil servants, | 一开始是推特员工 然后是联邦公务员 |
| 154 | America as a whole is now facing that fork in the road. | 整个美国现在正面临这条路中的叉子。 |
| 155 | The best-case scenario, Doge goes in, it makes it more efficient, | 最好的情况是,Doge进去了,这样会更有效率 |
| 156 | and somehow it turns the civil service into the government equivalent of Tesla. | 不知何故,它把公务员 变成了相当于特斯拉的政府。 |
| 157 | The worst-case scenario is Twitter, where it's super great for Elon Musk, | 最坏的情况是推特, 在那里,这是超级伟大的埃隆穆斯克, |
| 158 | but along the way there's a lot of damage to the original business, | 但沿途对最初的生意造成了很大损害, |
| 159 | which is operating the military, feeding the poor, paying out your Social Security. | 它负责军队运作 给穷人提供食物 支付你的社会保障 |
| 160 | That all kind of falls by the wayside. | 那些东西都落在路边了 |
| 161 | Those two possibilities, that is a fork in the road that all of us face. | 这两种可能性,是我们大家面临的一个岔路口。 |
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