佐治亚州美国参议院辩论：奥索夫vs柯林斯 | 2026.10

佐治亚州美国参议院辩论：奥索夫vs柯林斯 | 2026.10.9 | 美剧级别字幕

发布于 2026-10-09 · 时长 51:49

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时间	英文	中文
0:01	This is debate night live the race for Senate hosted by gray media and	这是辩论之夜由灰色媒体主持的参议院比赛
0:07	Atlanta News first.	亚特兰大新闻第一.
0:11	Tonight with just days until the polls open across	今晚还有几天民意调查才开始
0:15	Georgia, the first meeting of the two candidates at the top of the ballot in	格鲁吉亚,两名候选人首次在格鲁吉亚大选中投票。
0:19	Georgia, Democratic Senator John Ossoff and Republican Congressman Mike	格鲁吉亚,民主党参议员约翰·奥索夫和共和党众议员迈克
0:24	Collins.	柯林斯柯林斯柯林斯柯林斯柯林斯柯林斯
0:25	We're broadcasting live across the state from gray media owned	我们用灰色媒体在全州直播
0:30	in Doraville to Cabb County.	在多拉维尔到卡布县。
0:32	Good evening.	边
0:33	我是Rick Folbaum,主持人

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序号	英文	中文
1	This is debate night live the race for Senate hosted by gray media and	这是辩论之夜由灰色媒体主持的参议院比赛
2	Atlanta News first.	亚特兰大新闻第一.
3	Tonight with just days until the polls open across	今晚还有几天民意调查才开始
4	Georgia, the first meeting of the two candidates at the top of the ballot in	格鲁吉亚,两名候选人首次在格鲁吉亚大选中投票。
5	Georgia, Democratic Senator John Ossoff and Republican Congressman Mike	格鲁吉亚,民主党参议员约翰·奥索夫和共和党众议员迈克
6	Collins.	柯林斯柯林斯柯林斯柯林斯柯林斯柯林斯
7	We're broadcasting live across the state from gray media owned	我们用灰色媒体在全州直播
8	in Doraville to Cabb County.	在多拉维尔到卡布县。
9	Good evening.	边
10	我是Rick Folbaum,主持人
11	of tonight's U. S. Senate debate.	今晚美国参议院辩论
12	The questions asked during tonight's	今晚的提问
13	debate will come from a panel of gray media journalists representing every	辩论将来自一个灰色媒体记者小组,
14	region across Georgia.	格鲁吉亚各地。
15	Tonight's broadcast will run 60 minutes with	今晚的广播会持续60分钟
16	four segments each about 15 minutes in order to have a thoughtful and civil	四段每段约15分钟,以便有一个深思熟虑的、文明的
17	debate.	辩论。
18	These are the rules that both campaigns have agreed to.	这是两场竞选都同意的规则。
19	Panelists	小组成员
20	will ask their questions to one or both candidates.	向一名或两名候选人提问。
21	The candidates will	候选人将
22	be given 60 seconds to answer with 30 seconds allowed for rebuttals at my	给60秒回答 30秒允许我的反驳
23	discretion.	酌情决定。
24	We'll begin with a 60 second opening statement and we'll end with	我们从60秒的开幕词开始然后结束
25	a 60 second closing statement from each candidate to read the complete debate	a 每个候选人宣读完整辩论的60次最后发言。
26	rules.	规则。
27	Go to Atlanta news first dot com slash debate and I will be here to	去亚特兰大新闻第一次点COM斜线辩论我会在这里
28	enforce the rules tonight.	今晚执行规则。
29	We begin with opening statements from each of the	我们首先要从每个代表团的开幕词开始。
30	candidates.	候选人。
31	We held a coin toss prior to the debate to decide who would go	在辩论前我们先扔了枚硬币决定谁去
32	first.	先说
33	Congressman Collins won the toss and elected to have the final word	众议员柯林斯赢得了比赛并选出了最终的决断
34	tonight.	今晚见
35	Senator Ossoff, will you begin your opening statement?	奥索夫参议员,你能开始开场白吗?
36	Well, Rick,	好吧,瑞克,你觉得呢?
37	thank you so much for bringing us together.	非常感谢你让我们聚在一起
38	Thanks to gray media and	感谢灰色媒体和
39	congressman.	议员
40	Good to be here with you.	很高兴在这里和你在一起。
41	Democrats, independents and Republicans	民主党、独立党和共和党
42	are uniting behind my Senate campaign, just like we united Georgians to cap	就像我们团结格鲁吉亚人封杀
43	the cost of insulin at $35 to take on big tech companies and force them to	以35美元的价格支付胰岛素的费用以承担大型技术公司并强迫他们
44	report online predators who target our kids.	报告攻击我们孩子的网上掠食者
45	And tonight, a united Georgia will	今晚,一个团结的格鲁吉亚将
46	hear the trial of Mike Collins.	听到迈克·柯林斯的审判。
47	Mike Collins has brought dishonor to our	麦克柯林斯给我们带来了耻辱
48	state through his personal bigotry and his widely documented ties to white	透过他个人的偏执以及他与白人的关系
49	nationalists.	民族主义者.
50	And he's sold out Georgia in his pathetic childlike devotion to	他出卖了佐治亚州他可怜的孩子一样的奉献
51	Donald Trump voting for the tariffs that have sent groceries soaring, voting	唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)投票支持那些让杂货飞涨的关税,
52	for the health care cuts that have doubled your insurance premiums and	医疗费的削减使你的保险费翻了一番
53	voting for the war that sent diesel to its record high.	投票支持送柴油达到创纪录最高水平的战争.
54	We'll hear tonight if	我们今晚会听到
55	the congressman can defend those votes, I doubt he'll have the courage to do	议员们能为这些选票辩护我怀疑他有勇气
56	so.	所以说 So.
57	Thank you very much.	谢谢
58	Congressman Collins, your opening statement.	科林斯议员,你的开幕词
59	Good	不错
60	evening.	边
61	I'm Mike Collins and I'm asking for your vote because right now Georgia	我是麦克柯林斯,我要你投票因为现在乔治亚州
62	doesn't have a voice in the Senate.	在参议院没有发言权
63	You see, Georgia is where I built my	你看,佐治亚是我建的
64	business.	业务。
65	It's where I raised my family.	是我养家的地方
66	It's where I learned the hard lessons	我从那里学到了艰难的教训
67	that helped me to deliver every day in Washington.	帮助我每天在华盛顿送货
68	But my opponent is a radical	但我的对手是激进分子
69	and he has left our state less safe, more expensive and worse off.	他离开我们的国家安全性更差更贵更差
70	He's an	他是一个
71	extremist who's voted for men to go in girl sports.	极端主义者,谁投票男子去女孩运动。
72	He's opposed the forgotten	他反对被遗忘的人
73	men and women who just want to keep more of their tips, their overtime and	男人和女人只要多留点小费加班
74	their social security.	他们的社会保障。
75	In two years, I worked across the aisles to get two	两年后,我跨过过过道得到两个
76	signed by two presidents of different parties.	由不同党派的两位主席签署。
77	One to fight these synthetic	一个来对付这些合成人
78	drugs that are killing our kids.	毒品正在杀死我们的孩子。
79	The other lake and Riley act that has has	另一个湖和莱利的动作已经
80	removed over 20,000 illegal criminals from our streets.	把两万多名非法罪犯从我们街上带走
81	If you send me to the	如果你让我去
82	Senate, I'll work with whoever I need to to get results and I won't sell out our	参议院,我会和任何我需要的人合作得到结果,我不会出卖我们
83	values doing it.	价值做它。
84	Gentlemen, thank you both.	各位,谢谢你们
85	Let's move on now to questions.	今先问讯.
86	第一个来自萨凡纳的W T O C主播Mike Selah.
87	Mike, Georgia	迈克,格鲁吉亚
88	families are stuck paying high prices for groceries, utilities and everyday	家庭不得不支付高价杂货、水电和日常
89	essentials.	关键
90	People are putting in the work but still falling behind.	人们把工作但仍然落后。
91	Congressman Collins, if elected to the Senate, what is your plan to help	科林斯议员,如果当选参议员, 你有什么计划帮助
92	families make ends meet?	家庭要维持生计吗?
93	And Senator also off if Democrats take control of	如果民主党控制
94	the Senate, what is your plan to bring immediate relief to Georgia families?	参议院,你有什么计划给格鲁吉亚的家庭立即提供救济?
95	Congressman, you have 60 seconds.	议员,你还有60秒
96	Yes.	对
97	First of all, let's look back and see	首先,我们回头看看
98	where this came from.	这是从哪里来的。
99	My opponent voted for those Bidenomics that caused this	我的对手投给了那些引起这个的Bidenomics
100	historic inflation, not just on gas and gas is too high and we're bringing that	历史上的通货膨胀,不只是汽油和煤气过高,我们正在带来
101	down, but on everything that you purchase out there.	下来,但你购买的一切在那里。
102	He's the one that	他是那个
103	voted for that Green New Deal.	投票支持绿色新政。
104	He doesn't want your gas to go down.	他不想让你的气体下降。
105	He
106	doesn't even want you having gasoline, all mobiles.	连汽油都不要所有手机都不要
107	He wants you riding on	他要你骑上去
108	mass transit.	公共交通。
109	But what we need to do is continue to make sure that we become	但我们需要做的是继续确保我们成为
110	energy independent here.	能量在这里独立。
111	We continue to make sure that young people have	我们继续确保年轻人
112	opportunities.	机会。
113	Make sure that that port down there is widened and deepened in	确保下面的港口被扩大和深化
114	to bring goods in as well as export goods out for other countries.	将货物运入并出口到其他国家。
115	Senator	参议员
116	call Senator Ossoff, excuse me, you have 60 seconds.	给奥索夫参议员打电话,对不起,你还有60秒
117	These tariffs are	这些关税是:
118	crushing our state and will repeal those tariffs.	摧毁我们的国家,并将取消这些关税。
119	And I'd like to hear the	我想听听这个
120	congressman explain why he voted for them over and over and over again.	议员们解释了为什么他一遍又一遍地投票支持他们.
121	It	这个
122	costs more today than at any time in American history to stock your fridge	今天比美国历史上任何时候都要花更多的钱储存你的冰箱
123	to fill up your truck, to power your home.	填满你的卡车, 为你的家供电。
124	Diesel is up 70% since Donald Trump was elected president.	自唐纳德·特朗普当选总统以来,柴油涨了70%.
125	Ground beef and coffee are up 30%.	地面牛肉和咖啡增加了30%。
126	These tariffs have crushed families and small businesses	这些关税压垮了家庭和小企业
127	in Georgia agriculture.	在乔治亚州农业。
128	The war in Iran has sent gas prices near their all-time high,	伊朗战争使天然气价格接近历史最高点,
129	unleaded $4 in Georgia, diesel $6 in Georgia.	格鲁吉亚无铅4元,格鲁吉亚柴油6元.
130	Coastal Georgia relies on trade.	乔治亚海岸依靠贸易。
131	I'd like to hear the congressman right now explain to Georgia voters	我现在想听议员向格鲁吉亚选民解释
132	how these tariffs are helping us.	这些关税如何帮助我们。
133	Thank you, gentlemen.	谢谢各位
134	I just want to remind you both of the rules that your campaigns have agreed to.	我只是想提醒你们俩你竞选中同意的规则
135	The candidates will not ask questions of each other.	考生不相问.
136	Those questions will come from our journalists here.	这些问题将来自我们的记者。
137	And the next question comes from anchor Rosalind Giles with WTVM in Columbus.	而下一个问题来自主播罗莎琳德·吉莱斯(Rosalind Giles)与WTVM在哥伦布.
138	Thank you, Rick.	谢谢你,里克。
139	Congressman Collins, you've pointed to the Biden-era Inflation Reduction Act,	科林斯议员,你已经指出拜登时代的减通货膨胀法案,
140	which Senator Ossoff voted for as the root cause of inflation.	奥索夫参议员投票支持的是通货膨胀的根源
141	But that law passed four years ago.	但该法律四年前就通过了。
142	Last year, you voted for the Working Families Tax Cut Act,	去年你投票通过了《工作家庭减税法》
143	also known as the One Big Beautiful Bill.	也被称为"一个大美丽的法案".
144	Can you point to one measurable outcome from that bill	你能指出一个可以衡量的结果吗?
145	that's helping alleviate costs of living concerns for Georgians?	帮助减轻格鲁吉亚人的生活负担?
146	Congressman, 60 seconds.	议员,60秒。
147	Yes, ma'am.	是,长官
148	You know, I believe in keeping more money in the private sector,	你知道,我相信有更多的资金在私营部门,
149	in people's pockets.	在人们的口袋。
150	That one bill allowed families to keep over $3,000 a year.	这一法案允许家庭每年保留3 000多美元。
151	Child care credit wasn't gone.	保育信贷没走
152	It didn't go away.	它没有消失。
153	They kept that.	他们留着这个
154	100% appreciation on equipment, on capitalized equipment.	设备、资本化设备100%升值。
155	Those things funneled back into our economy and caused this economy to grow.	那些东西回到了我们的经济中,并导致这个经济的增长。
156	That Bidenomics, that Green New Deal that my opponent voted for,	我对手投的绿新政
157	that's where all this inflation came from.	这就是通货膨胀的根源
158	We've got to continue to give back to energy independence.	我们必须继续让位于能源独立。
159	The first thing that the Biden administration and my opponent	第一件事是拜登政府和我的对手
160	and the Democrats did was kill the Keystone Pipeline.	民主党的确是杀了关键石管道
161	That alone would have helped keep this energy cost down.	只有这样,才能降低能源成本。
162	But he didn't.	但他没有
163	Instead, he wanted to keep the borders wide open	相反,他想要保持边界宽阔
164	so that we had fentanyl coming across this border.	所以我们让芬塔尼穿过边境
165	No one has ever asked or held John Ossoff accountable for any of his votes	没有人要求或追究约翰·奥索夫的任何选票
166	or the reasons why.	或原因。或为什么。
167	I had to write a bill to fight these synthetic drugs	我不得不写一个法案打击这些合成药物
168	because he left that border open and allowed this stuff	因为他把边界打开了允许这些东西
169	to just funnel into our country, killing these young people.	杀死这些年轻人
170	Congressman, thank you.	议员,谢谢
171	Senator Ossoff, you voted against the big, beautiful bill.	奥索夫参议员,你否决了这个大而漂亮的法案
172	What is your plan to bring financial relief to Georgians?	你有什么计划给格鲁吉亚人带来财政救济?
173	We're going to repeal the tariffs.	我们要取消关税。
174	We're going to end this disastrous war in Iran.	我们要结束伊朗这场灾难性的战争。
175	We're going to repeal those Medicaid cuts	我们要取消医疗补助的削减
176	that have defunded hospitals and nursing homes across Georgia.	格鲁吉亚各地的医院和疗养院已停用资金。
177	If you want to understand whether the Trump-Collins budget has helped you,	如果你想了解特朗普-科林斯的预算是否帮助了你,
178	just go fill up a tank of gas.	去装一箱汽油
179	Go to the grocery store.	去杂货店
180	Try to buy food for your kids.	试着为你的孩子买吃的。
181	Look at your electric bill this week.	看看这周的电费
182	Look at your health insurance premiums.	看看你的医疗保险费。
183	They've doubled for more than a million Georgians,	他们已经翻了一倍对于超过100万格鲁吉亚人,
184	the predictable results of these disastrous policies.	这些灾难性政策可以预测的结果。
185	And Rick, I'm not asking the congressman a question.	Rick 我不是在问议员问题
186	I'm making a statement.	我在做笔录
187	Georgia voters deserve to know why he voted over and over and over again	格鲁吉亚选民应该知道,为什么他一再投票
188	for those tariffs.	对于那些关税。
189	Georgia voters deserve an explanation.	格鲁吉亚选民应该得到解释。
190	How have these tariffs helped us?	这些关税对我们有什么帮助?
191	That's a question that Congressman Collins should answer right now	这是柯林斯议员现在应该回答的问题
192	if he has the courage to do so.	如果他有勇气这么做的话
193	Let's hear it.	颂曰.
194	Thank you, Senator.	谢谢,参议员
195	Congressman Collins, Republicans campaign on cutting wasteful Washington spending.	科林斯议员,共和党人关于削减浪费的华盛顿开支的运动。
196	But the Congressional Budget Office reported just tonight	但国会预算办公室今晚刚刚报告
197	the federal deficit climbed to $2 trillion this past fiscal year,	过去的财政年度,联邦赤字上升到2万亿美元,
198	up more than $200 billion from last year.	比去年增加2000多亿美元。
199	If tax cuts and deregulation are the answer,	如果减税和放松管制是答案
200	why is the national debt and the federal deficit	为什么国家债务和联邦赤字
201	continuing to balloon on your party's watch?	在你的派对上继续气球?
202	Tax cuts are the answer to keeping more money back in people's pockets.	减税是把更多钱放回人们口袋的答案.
203	That in turn, when you keep money in the private sector,	当你在私营部门存钱的时候
204	it turns over another five, six, seven times.	它又翻了5,6,7次。
205	And what that does, what does that do?	这能做什么?
206	That creates more taxes and more taxpaying people and businesses grow.	这创造了更多的税收,并增加了纳税人和企业的增长。
207	But my opponent doesn't get that.	但我的对手不明白这一点。
208	My opponent's a trust fund kid who's never had a job in his life.	我的对手是一个信托基金的孩子他从来没有工作过。
209	He doesn't understand that.	他不明白这一点。
210	He doesn't understand business.	他不懂商业
211	That's okay.	没关系
212	We continue to become more independent.	我们继续变得更加独立。
213	As we continue to make sure that we have a fair shot for America,	当我们继续确保我们有一个公平的机会美国,
214	it should be America first.	应该是美国先。
215	We have bowed down to the rest of this world	我们向这个世界的其余部分鞠躬
216	and took it from companies or countries charging us tariffs over and over again.	并从公司或国家反复收取我们的关税。
217	We shouldn't be doing that.	我们不应该这样做。
218	We should set it up to where we have the advantage,	我们应该把它设置到我们有优势的地方,
219	and you should always have America first.	你总该先拥有美国
220	I think that people in this state need to know some things about my opponent,	我认为这个州的人需要了解一些关于我的对手的事情,
221	why he left that border wide open.	他为什么离开边界大开阔。
222	Congressman, I'm going to have to stop you there.	议员,我得阻止你
223	We'll get to that.	我们会去的。
224	I want to give Senator Ossoff a chance at a rebuttal.	我想给奥索夫参议员一个反驳的机会
225	There were some charges leveled at you.	有人指控你
226	You have 30 seconds.	你有30秒钟。
227	Well, the question was about the stewardship of tax dollars.	问题是税元的管理
228	And as we stand here today, Rick,	而当我们今天站在这里,里克,
229	Congressman Mike Collins is under federal investigation	麦克柯林斯议员正在接受联邦调查
230	for the illegal misuse of tax dollars,	非法滥用税款,
231	for illegally funneling public money to his violent staffer's girlfriend.	非法将公款输给他暴力工作人员女友
232	And he refused to testify in that matter.	他拒绝为此作证。
233	The Office of Congressional Conduct had to recommend that he be subpoenaed.	国会行为办公室不得不建议传唤他。
234	We haven't gotten an answer on the tariffs.	我们还没得到关税的答案
235	I'd like an answer why he refused to testify.	我想知道他为什么拒绝作证
236	Congressman Collins, you have 30 seconds for a rebuttal there.	柯林斯议员,你有30秒的反驳时间
237	That ethics complaint is bogus.	那个道德投诉是虚假的。
238	Anybody can file one.	任何人都可以存档。
239	It is a nothing burger.	简直是一文不值
240	It is election season.	现在是选举季节。
241	And my opponent, the Democrats,	我的对手,民主党,
242	they wanted to ride this thing through the election.	他们想骑着这个东西通过选举。
243	Matter of fact, I look forward to the day.	事实上,我期待着这一天。
244	They need to release all of that.	他们需要释放这一切。
245	Go ahead and release it.	来吧,释放它。
246	The ethics committee needs to release the information	道德委员会需要发布信息
247	and clear my name now because that's all they're doing.	洗清我的名字,因为这就是他们所做的。
248	He can't talk on his record, y'all.	他不能谈他的记录,你们。
249	You don't hear him talk about his record.	你没有听到他谈论他的记录。
250	All he wants to do is slander and try to slam me.	他只想诽谤我,想打我一顿
251	Senator Ossoff, you criticize Republican tax cuts for driving up the debt.	奥索夫参议员,你批评共和党减税驱动债务。
252	But during your first two years in Washington,	但是在华盛顿的头两年里
253	you voted for trillions of dollars in spending	你投了万亿元的票
254	as the national debt climbed to past 31 trillion.	国家债务攀升到31万亿美元
255	If debt is a threat to our economic future,	如果债务是对我们经济未来的威胁
256	why did you vote to expand it when your party controlled the budget?	为什么在你党控制预算的时候你投票扩大预算?
257	Thank you so much for the question, Rick.	非常感谢你的问题,瑞克。
258	Look, one of the things that we did was pass the bipartisan infrastructure law	听着,我们做的一件事就是通过了两党基础设施法
259	to pull lead pipes out of drinking water systems across Georgia,	将铅管从格鲁吉亚的饮用水系统抽出,
260	expand broadband internet, upgrade every seaport and airport in the state of Georgia.	扩大宽带互联网,升级格鲁吉亚州每个海港和机场。
261	That's the kind of program that supports our economic development.	这就是支持我们经济发展的方案。
262	But right now, with this disastrous war in the Middle East,	但是现在中东这场灾难性的战争
263	Congressman Collins voted seven times for the war in Iran,	柯林斯议员七次投票支持伊朗战争
264	seven times with these tariffs crushing international trade,	7倍的关税压垮了国际贸易,
265	driving grocery prices to all-time highs,	将杂货价格提高到历史最高点,
266	these health care cuts that have doubled health insurance premiums	这些保健削减使健康保险费翻了一番
267	for more than a million Georgians.	超过100万格鲁吉亚人。
268	Our economy is being strangled by Donald Trump and Mike Collins' economic record.	我们的经济正被唐纳德·特朗普和迈克·柯林斯的经济记录扼杀.
269	We're now almost 12 minutes into this debate.	我们现在快12分钟了
270	We still haven't heard an explanation of how the tariffs are helping Georgia families.	我们还没有听到一个解释关税是如何帮助格鲁吉亚家庭。
271	Georgians deserve to know why someone who wants to serve them in the Senate	格鲁吉亚人应该知道,为什么有人想在参议院为他们服务
272	voted over and over for these tariffs.	对这些关税进行了反复投票。
273	Thank you, Senator.	谢谢,参议员
274	Up next, anchor Will Rio from WRDW in Augusta.	接下来,主播威尔里奥从WRDW在奥古斯塔。
275	Will.	威尔
276	Well, this question is for both candidates.	这个问题是针对两位候选人的。
277	Georgia has lost 1.2 million acres of farmland since 1985,	格鲁吉亚自1985年以来损失了120万英亩农田。
278	and farmers in East Georgia faced weather-related losses from Hurricane Helene.	东乔治亚州的农民也面临着飓风海伦带来的与天气有关的损失.
279	If elected, what farm bill priorities would you fight for	如果当选,你会争取什么农场法案优先
280	to help family farms stay profitable and keep food prices stable for consumers?	帮助家庭农场保持盈利,使消费者的粮食价格保持稳定?
281	Senator Ossoff, you have 60 seconds.	奥索夫参议员,你还有60秒
282	Just a couple weeks ago, the Republican chairman of Georgia's Peanut Commission	几周前,乔治亚州花生委员会主席
283	endorsed my campaign.	支持我的竞选
284	I've delivered for Georgia farmers.	我给佐治亚州农民送货了
285	When Georgia pecan growers came to me, they told me that India had put a 100 percent tariff	当佐治亚山梨种植者来找我时, 他们告诉我,印度已经加了100%的关税
286	on Georgia pecans.	佐治亚州松饼
287	I got to work and got the Indians to cut that tariff by 70 percent.	我得工作,让印第安人把关税削减70%。
288	But right now, family farms in Georgia are getting crushed.	但是现在,乔治亚的家庭农场正在被摧毁。
289	A third of the world's fertilizer flows through the Strait of Hormuz.	世界上三分之一的化肥流经霍尔木兹海峡.
290	Diesel prices are at their all-time high in American history.	柴油价格在美国历史上创历史新高.
291	Under Mike Collins and Donald Trump, it costs more than ever to buy a tractor for your farm	在迈克·柯林斯和唐纳德·特朗普的手下为你的农场买拖拉机比以往更贵
292	or to plant an acre of cotton.	或种植一亩棉花。
293	We still haven't heard an explanation for the tariffs.	我们还没有听到关税的解释。
294	I'd like for the congressman also to explain to the folks across Georgia	我想让议员们也向格鲁吉亚各地的民众解释一下
295	how this disastrous war has been a success.	这场灾难性的战争是如何成功的。
296	Congressman Collins, you have 60 seconds.	科林斯议员,你还有60秒
297	Thank you.	谢谢
298	You know, agriculture is the number one industry in this state.	农业是这个州的第一产业
299	And nobody works smarter or harder than our American farmer.	没有人比我们的美国农民更聪明更努力工作。
300	And they deserve our help because a lot of times the playing field is not fair.	他们值得我们的帮助因为很多时候比赛场地不公平
301	We put them in bad situations.	我们让他们陷入困境
302	We sure do.	当然
303	We don't produce our own stuff here.	我们不生产我们自己的东西在这里。
304	We don't produce our own fertilizer here because they've been chased overseas	我们这里不生产自己的肥料因为他们被追逐到海外
305	and we had to import it.	我们不得不进口它。
306	You know, when I think about our farmers and I look back,	你知道,当我想到我们的农民我回头看,
307	it was just this time last year.	去年只是这个时候
308	Last year, John Ossoff shut the government down for 48 days.	去年,约翰·奥索夫将政府关闭了48天.
309	He shut it down, y'all, right when we were trying to get that emergency money out for	他关闭它,你们, 正确的,当我们试图得到紧急资金出来
310	Hurricane Helene so that our farmers and our small communities could repair and prepare	飓风海伦这样我们的农民和小社区就能修复和准备
311	for this year's harvest.	今年的收获。
312	Oh, no, he didn't care about that.	哦,不,他不在乎这一点。
313	He shut it down because he wanted to defund Border Patrol and ICE.	他关闭了它,因为他想退款边境巡逻队和ICE.
314	And Georgia, we deserve to know why he left that border wide open	佐治亚州,我们应当知道,他为什么离开边界大开,
315	so that child trafficking could come across that border.	这样,贩卖儿童就可以越过边界。
316	Thank goodness we didn't shut our Border Patrol down in ICE	谢天谢地我们没有关闭在ICE的边境巡逻队
317	because they have been out there collecting those young people,	因为他们一直在那里收集那些年轻人,
318	getting them back to their families.	让他们回到家人身边
319	I want to give the senator 30 seconds for a rebuttal.	我想给参议员30秒的反驳时间
320	Well, the question was about Georgia agriculture.	问题在于乔治亚农业
321	And if you go to South Georgia right now and you talk to any farmer in our state,	如果你现在去南乔治亚和我们州的任何农民交谈
322	they will tell you that diesel prices are crushing them.	他们会告诉你柴油价格在压抑他们
323	They will tell you that they are bearing the brunt of global retaliation for this trade war.	他们会告诉你,他们首当其冲在全球报复这场贸易战争。
324	These tariffs are crushing Georgia's economy and they're crushing Georgia agriculture.	这些关税正在粉碎格鲁吉亚的经济,并粉碎格鲁吉亚的农业.
325	It's the war and the tariffs destroying our farm economy.	战争和关税摧毁了我们的农场经济
326	And Georgians deserve answers from the congressman.	格鲁吉亚人应该得到议员的回答。
327	That concludes our first segment.	我们的第一期会议到此结束。
328	Debate Night Live is just getting started.	辩论夜直播刚刚开始
329	We will be right back with more questions and answers	我们马上就回来问和回答更多
330	from Senator John Ossoff and Congressman Mike Collins.	来自参议员约翰·奥索夫和众议员迈克·柯林斯
331	Welcome back to Debate Night Live.	欢迎回到辩论夜现场
332	Democratic incumbent Senator John Ossoff and Republican Congressman Mike Collins	现任民主党参议员约翰·奥索夫和共和党众议员迈克·科林斯
333	taking center stage in the race for U.S. Senate.	成为美国参议院的竞选中心
334	Our next question comes from Atlanta News First statewide reporter Abby Kasouris.	我们的下一个问题来自亚特兰大新闻第一全州记者艾比·卡苏里斯。
335	Rural hospitals across Georgia are on the financial edge.	整个格鲁吉亚的农村医院处于财政边缘。
336	In Hawkinsville, Taylor Regional asked for a city loan just to stay afloat.	在霍金斯维尔,泰勒大区要求提供城市贷款,只是为了维持生计.
337	And doctors are reportedly leaving for Warner Robbins more than an hour away.	据报道医生要离开去华纳罗宾斯一个多小时的路程
338	If you're elected, what is one specific action you'll take	如果你当选了,你会采取什么具体行动
339	to keep ERs like Taylor Regional's open statewide?	像泰勒区那样在全州开放的急诊室?
340	Senator Ossoff, you have 60 seconds.	奥索夫参议员,你还有60秒
341	We're going to repeal the disastrous Medicaid cuts	我们要废除灾难性的医保削减
342	that Mike Collins voted to pass.	迈克·柯林斯投票通过
343	Look, when you all elected me to the Senate,	听着,当你们选举我为参议院议员时
344	I took on the drug companies to cap the cost of insulin at $35.	我让制药公司把胰岛素的费用封顶在35美元
345	Mike Collins and Donald Trump passed the biggest Medicaid cut in history.	迈克·柯林斯和唐纳德·特朗普通过了历史上最大的"医疗补助"削减.
346	A hospital in Mike Collins' own district	麦克柯林斯自己的医院
347	had to shut down its labor and delivery unit citing those Medicaid cuts.	不得不关闭它的劳动和生产单位引用这些医疗补助削减。
348	How can a sitting congressman vote to shut down a labor and delivery unit	现任议员怎么能投票关闭一个劳动和生产单位
349	in his own district?	在他自己的地区?
350	Delivering mothers in Mike Collins' district now have to drive an hour	在迈克柯林斯区接生的母亲现在得开车一小时
351	to get to a labor and delivery unit while they're in labor	在他们分娩的时候去产房
352	when we already have a maternal mortality crisis.	那时我们已经面临产妇死亡率危机。
353	Not to mention, health insurance premiums have doubled	更不用提,医疗保险费增加了一倍
354	for more than a million Georgians.	超过100万格鲁吉亚人。
355	300,000 have lost their insurance altogether.	30万人失去了他们的保险。
356	And Georgians deserve an explanation.	格鲁吉亚人应该有一个解释。
357	Why the congressman voted to double your health insurance premiums?	为什么议员投票决定把你的医疗保险费增加一倍?
358	Congressman Collins, you have 60 seconds.	科林斯议员,你还有60秒
359	Yeah, a lot to unpack here.	是啊,这里有很多东西要收拾
360	Rural hospitals, major problems.	农村医院,重大问题.
361	That's why in the bill, the Working Families Tax Cut Plan,	因此,在法案,工作家庭减税计划,
362	we put $218 billion in there for rural hospitals.	我们为农村医院投入了2,180亿美元
363	93 million of it's already been submitted to Georgia through 87 counties.	其中9300万已经通过87个县提交给格鲁吉亚.
364	The problem is, and John Ossoff won't understand this	问题是约翰·奥索夫不会明白
365	because he doesn't have to worry about health care.	因为他不必担心医疗
366	He doesn't have to worry about trying to buy health care insurance for his family.	他不必担心要为家人购买医疗保险.
367	He never will.	他永远不会。
368	But the problem started way back under Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act.	但问题开始早在奥巴马护理, 负担得起的护理法案。
369	Y'all, I was in the private sector then.	我当时在私营部门
370	I remember that first year, my insurance going up 62%.	我记得第一年我的保险涨了62%
371	And from that day forward, I saw our rural hospitals start to close	从那天开始,我看到我们的农村医院开始关闭
372	or swap over to swing beds because they couldn't handle the mandates	或换到摇摆床因为他们不能处理任务
373	that were being pushed on them.	被推到他们身上
374	When you let the federal government take over health care,	当你让联邦政府接管医疗时
375	which is what, at the end of the day, John Ossoff wants to do to you,	最后约翰·奥索夫想对你做什么
376	then this is what you get.	这就是你得到的。
377	You get high insurance, inflated prices,	你得到高额的保险高价
378	and you get hospitals that are closing every day.	医院每天都要关门
379	Thank you, Congressman.	谢谢你,议员
380	Senator, you have 30 seconds.	参议员,你还有30秒
381	You know what's tragic about this is that we were warned.	你知道这可悲的是我们被警告了
382	The Congressional Budget Office warned us	国会预算办公室警告我们
383	that if they passed this bill, health insurance premiums would skyrocket,	如果他们通过这个法案, 健康保险费会飙升,
384	that if they passed this bill,	如果他们通过了这个法案,
385	rural hospitals would have to close down services.	农村医院必须关闭服务。
386	It's a hospital in your own district, Mike,	这是你所在的医院迈克
387	and now a delivering mother has to drive an hour	现在生孩子的母亲得开车一小时
388	to get to a facility where she can deliver safely.	她可以安全地送货
389	It's a disgrace.	真丢脸
390	You still haven't explained it,	你还没解释
391	and you haven't explained why you voted to double	你还没解释你为什么投双倍票
392	your own constituents' health insurance premiums.	您的选民的医疗保险费。
393	Congressman, 30 seconds.	议员,30秒。
394	30 seconds.	30秒钟。
395	The Affordable Care Act is what has caused your insurance to go sky high.	《廉价护理法》让你的保险高涨了
396	Our premiums have gone through the roof,	我们的保费已经从屋顶走出来
397	and the coverage has gone through the floor.	覆盖范围已经穿过了地板。
398	John would never understand that, though.	约翰不会明白的
399	我了解,我记得 I get it.
400	He doesn't.	他没有。
401	He doesn't have to worry about paying for that.	他不必担心会为此付出代价
402	But I have been out there with my rural hospitals.	但我一直在那里我的农村医院。
403	That's why he voted against giving these hospitals that much-needed money.	这就是为什么他投票反对给这些医院急需的资金。
404	If anybody should answer for anything,	如果有人要为任何事负责
405	John Ossoff should answer for why he was not willing	John Ossoff应该回答为什么他不愿意
406	to help out these rural hospitals survive.	帮助这些农村医院生存。
407	Because what happens is, if you don't have rural hospitals in these rural...	因为如果这些农村没有乡村医院...
408	Congressman, we're out of time.	议员,我们没时间了
409	You won't have...	你不会有...
410	I'd like to respond.	欲应之.
411	Congressman, we're out of time.	议员,我们没时间了
412	We're going to stay on this topic, gentlemen.	先生们,我们要继续讨论这个话题
413	I want to go to Rosalyn Giles.	我想去罗莎琳吉尔斯
414	All we need to do is just raise our hands...	我们只需要举起手...
415	Excuse me.	对不起。
416	Pardon me, sir.	对不起,先生。
417	We're going to move on to the next question.	复次问言.
418	Rosalyn Giles has it.	罗莎琳·吉尔斯拿到了
419	Go ahead, Rosalyn.	来吧,罗莎琳。
420	Senator Ossoff, you voted to extend Affordable Care Act subsidies nine times.	奥索夫参议员,你投票同意延长支付得起的护理法案补贴九次。
421	But what is your plan to lower the underlying cost of care	但是,你有什么计划降低基本护理费用
422	and insurance premiums, not just subsidize existing costs?	和保险费,不只是补贴现有费用?
423	It requires price transparency.	它要求价格透明。
424	It also requires Medicaid expansion here in Georgia.	还需要在格鲁吉亚扩大医疗补助。
425	It's why we need a Medicaid expanding Governor Keisha Lance Bottoms here in Georgia	这就是为什么我们需要一个医疗援助扩大州长凯莎・兰斯・布底斯在乔治亚州
426	to address our state's health care emergency.	解决我们州的医疗紧急情况
427	But what you're talking about are the Affordable Care Act benefits	但你所说的是"付得起的护理法"福利
428	that Congressman Mike Collins voted to let lapse.	迈克·柯林斯议员投票决定放弃
429	And again, we were warned.	又有人警告我们
430	Members of Congress, like Mike, they knew exactly what that vote would do to you.	国会议员们和迈克一样他们知道投票对你有什么影响
431	So when you get home and you get that letter from your insurance company,	所以当你回家,你收到你保险公司的信,
432	and you just came from the grocery store where you couldn't buy ground beef for your kids,	你刚从杂货店来在那里你无法为你的孩子买地牛肉,
433	because of the tariffs, and you could only fill up half a tank of gas because of the war,	因为关税,你只能装满半个油箱因为战争,
434	and you open the notice from your insurance company and your premiums have doubled,	你从保险公司开出通知保险费翻了一番
435	this man is responsible for that.	这个人对此负有责任。
436	And he still refuses tonight to explain why he voted to double your health insurance premiums.	他今晚仍然拒绝解释他为什么投票让你的医疗保险费翻一番
437	And I think that's disqualifying for a candidate for U.S. Senate.	我认为,这是取消美国参议院候选人的资格。
438	Let's see if he has the courage to explain his votes.	看看他有没有勇气解释他的选票.
439	Senator, thank you.	参议员,谢谢你
440	Congressman Collins, what is your plan to lower the underlying cost of care	科林斯议员,你有什么计划降低基本护理费用
441	and insurance premiums?	还有保险费?
442	Yeah, you know, when you talk about these subsidies,	是啊,你知道, 当你谈论这些补贴,
443	the only people getting rich on these subsidies are our health insurance carriers out there.	这些补贴中唯一有钱的人就是我们的医疗保险公司
444	We've seen their stock go through the roof thousands of percent.	我们已经看到他们的股票翻了几千%的屋顶。
445	What we need to do is make sure that there is more transparency.	我们需要做的是确保有更大的透明度。
446	We need to make sure that people pay a fair price for drugs.	我们必须确保人们为毒品付出公平的代价。
447	That's drugs.	这是毒品。
448	Trump RX is doing a great job with that.	特朗普RX正为此做得很好.
449	You also need to make sure that we're most favored nation status with pricing,	你还需要确保我们是最受欢迎的国家地位与定价,
450	that we're not subsidizing the rest of the world with our drug prices out there.	我们不会用我们的药价来补贴世界其他地方。
451	But you talk about these Medicaid subsidies,	但你谈论这些医疗补助,
452	all that was passed under the Biden administration with John Ossoff.	所有那些都和约翰·奥索夫一起被拜登政府通过
453	这是用来涵盖COVID,COVID时期.
454	If they wanted it permanent, they could have voted for it right then, but they didn't.	如果他们想要永久的,他们本来可以当时投票支持,但他们没有.
455	And that's because they realized, they know this, that all that ever happens is the only	这是因为他们意识到, 他们知道这一点, 所有发生的一切是唯一的
456	people that get subsidized are our insurance companies,	得到补贴的人是我们的保险公司,
457	and they make more money off of you and me while our insurance coverage goes down.	他们从你我身上赚了更多的钱而保险金却在下降
458	We have a lot of ground to cover.	我们有很多地方要掩护
459	We're going to move on to the next question.	复次问言.
460	(原始内容存档于2018-03-09). Mike Selah from WTOC.
461	Go ahead, Mike.	来吧,迈克。
462	Well, this question is for both candidates.	这个问题是针对两位候选人的。
463	Massive new data center projects are receiving a lot of backlash,	大量的新的数据中心项目正在得到大量的反弹,
464	including the proposed $20 billion open AI facility in Effingham County.	包括拟在埃芬汉姆县建造的200亿美元开放式AI设施。
465	They require immense amounts of energy and water.	它们需要大量的能源和水。
466	How will you ensure that the massive strain on our power grid	你如何确保我们电网的巨大压力
467	does not result in higher monthly utility bills for Georgia families and small businesses?	是否为格鲁吉亚家庭和小企业每月收取的水电费较高?
468	Congressman Collins, 60 seconds.	科林斯议员,60秒
469	Yeah, sure.	当然
470	You know, I've said this from the beginning.	我从一开始就这么说的
471	I'm very much in favor of local control.	我非常赞成本地的控制。
472	Local people know what needs to be in their communities and what doesn't.	当地人知道在自己的社区需要什么,没有什么。
473	And we need to make sure that their infrastructure is not destroyed,	我们需要确保他们的基础设施不被摧毁,
474	either that's electric or water.	是电还是水
475	They know that.	他们知道这一点。
476	If you want a data center in your area,	如果你想在你的区域建立一个数据中心,
477	when I'm the US Senator, I'll help you fight to get one.	当我是美国参议员时我会帮你争取一个
478	If you don't, I'll help make sure that you don't get that.	如果你不这样做,我会帮助确保你没有得到这一点。
479	But you know what?	但你知道吗?
480	John Ossoff, he's got his major donor,	约翰·奥索夫他得到了他的主要捐赠者
481	one of his mega donors is data center billionaire Reid Hoffman,	他的一个巨型捐赠者是数据中心亿万富翁Reid Hoffman
482	also one of Epstein's buddies out there,	也是爱泼斯坦的朋友之一
483	has funneled money into his campaign.	他的竞选中漏了钱
484	He's got to answer to those people.	他必须回答那些人。
485	He doesn't have to answer to local people.	他不必对当地人负责.
486	Senator Ossoff, you have 60 seconds.	奥索夫参议员,你还有60秒
487	First of all, no Georgia family or small business should pay a dime more	首先,佐治亚家庭或小企业都不应该多付一分钱
488	to subsidize the energy consumption of these data centers.	补贴这些数据中心的能源消耗。
489	No local community should have these data centers imposed on them.	任何当地社区都不应该强迫他们建立这些数据中心。
490	But that same budget bill we've been discussing all night,	但是,同样的预算法案我们一直在讨论一整晚,
491	the one that slashed Medicaid,	那个砍伤了医疗补助的人
492	the one that doubled your health insurance premiums,	让你的医疗保险费翻了一番
493	it also gave $70 billion of your money to data center developers.	还给了数据中心开发商700亿美元
494	Just think about this.	想想这个
495	When you are paying more for your health insurance,	当你支付更多的医疗保险,
496	when a hospital in your community is closing down,	当你所在的医院关闭时,
497	Mike Collins voted to take that money out of your pocket	迈克·柯林斯投票决定把钱从你的口袋里拿走
498	and out of your community and give it instead to data center developers.	并把它交给数据中心的开发者。
499	And that's the problem, Mike.	这就是问题所在迈克
500	It's not just that you've hired half the Third Reich	不只是你雇了大半个第三帝国
501	to staff your congressional office	为国会办公室工作
502	and you have promoted neo-Nazi content online.	你在网上宣传了新纳粹的内容
503	It's that you're robbing your constituents to subsidize your donors.	是因为你抢了你的选民来补贴你的捐赠者
504	I want to know if you will commit to voting	我想知道你是否愿意投票
505	to repeal that data center tax scam that you voted for.	以废除你赞成的数据中心税收骗局
506	What's your answer?	你的答案是什麽?
507	Congressman, 30 seconds.	议员,30秒。
508	Rick, you know, I'm all for the rate payer protection plan.	瑞克,你知道的,我所有的支付者保护计划。
509	We need to make sure that whatever happens,	我们得确保不管发生什么
510	that those local communities don't take an impact.	那些当地社区不会产生影响。
511	These data centers need to pay.	这些数据中心需要付费。
512	They need to make sure that they support the communities that they're going in.	他们需要确保他们支持社区他们要去。
513	And we're seeing that.	我们看到了这一点。
514	And we're seeing good results from that.	我们看到了良好的结果。
515	But where they don't need to be,	但是在他们不需要的地方
516	the people don't want them, they don't need to be there.	人民不希望他们, 他们不需要在那里。
517	But you talk about data center developers getting money.	但你说数据中心的开发者赚钱
518	My goodness, Reid Hoffman.	我的天,里德・霍夫曼
519	Reid Hoffman, big billionaire data center developer.	Reid Hoffman,大亿万富翁数据中心开发商.
520	Turned around and funneled money right into John Ossoff's campaign.	转过身来,把钱输给了约翰·奥索夫的竞选活动.
521	Maxed out to him and then put over a million dollars.	和他约会然后花一百万
522	Thank you, sir.	谢谢你,先生。
523	We're going to move on to the next question.	复次问言.
524	We're going to move on to the next question from Telemundo Atlanta anchor,	接下来是特莱蒙多·亚特兰大主播的下一个问题
525	Ademar Montaña.	阿德玛·蒙塔尼亚.
526	Ademar.	阿德玛
527	Thank you, Rick.	谢谢你,里克。
528	Senator Ossoff, police use automated license-placed readers across Georgia.	欧索夫参议员整个乔治亚州警方使用自动许可阅读器
529	What federal privacy guardrails must exist to prevent unwarranted tracking?	为了防止不必要的跟踪,必须设立哪些联邦隐私保护设施?
530	Thank you so much for the question.	谢谢你的问候
531	We urgently need a federal privacy law to protect our privacy from big tech companies	我们急需一部联邦隐私法来保护我们的隐私不受大科技公司的伤害
532	who spy on us on our phones and social media.	他们监视我们的电话和社交媒体
533	To protect us from flock cameras that are being improperly accessed by folks	保护我们不被人们非法进入的羊群摄像头干扰
534	who are using that information to target innocent people.	他们利用这个信息来攻击无辜的人。
535	Artificial intelligence makes it even more important that we pass a federal privacy law.	人工智能使得我们通过联邦隐私法更为重要.
536	But I don't know if you saw just this week, Donald Trump said he likes flock cameras.	但我不知道你这周有没有看到 Donald Trump说他喜欢羊群摄像头
537	He wants them everywhere.	他到处都想要
538	He wants you to be spied on.	他想让你被监视
539	He doesn't care about your privacy.	他不在乎你的隐私
540	He put a flock camera on every block if he could.	他每条街都装有摄像头
541	Maybe tonight, Mike Collins will have the courage to buck the president on this.	也许今晚迈克·柯林斯有勇气说服总统
542	Does he agree with Donald Trump that we want flock cameras everywhere?	他是否同意唐纳德·特朗普的观点,即我们到处都想要羊群摄像头?
543	Or will he join me in demanding respect for Americans' privacy and constitutional rights?	或者他会和我一起要求尊重美国人的隐私和宪法权利?
544	Congressman, I'd like to give you 30 seconds to respond.	议员,我想给你30秒的回答
545	Yeah, I thought I had a minute.	是啊,我以为我有一分钟。
546	Flock cameras, if they're being abused, they shouldn't be out there.	假相机,如果他们被虐待, 他们不应该在那里。
547	And they are being abused.	他们正在受到虐待。
548	If we're going to use them, then we need to have a warrant to access that information.	如果我们要使用它们那我们就需要有搜查令才能获取这些信息
549	Otherwise, we don't need the flock camera system.	否则,我们不需要羊群相机系统。
550	I'm a firm believer in privacy laws out there and protecting your private rights.	我坚信隐私法保护你的私权
551	But I think the senator has a lot to answer for too.	但我觉得参议员也有很多事要回答
552	He's still yet to answer for farmers on why he shut this government down	他还没有为农民回答为什么他关闭政府
553	right when they needed that Hurricane Helene money.	当他们需要飓风海伦的钱时
554	Congressman, thank you.	议员,谢谢
555	Our next question comes from reporter Mariah Norman with WALB in Albany.	我们的下一个问题来自记者Mariah Norman 与瓦尔巴尼的WALB.
556	This question is for Congressman Collins.	这是给科林斯议员的
557	There are safety concerns with artificial intelligence,	人工智能有安全问题
558	but AI also leads to tech growth here in Georgia and nationally.	但AI也导致格鲁吉亚和国内的技术增长。
559	How would you balance regulation of AI while allowing	如何平衡AI的监管,同时允许
560	Georgians and Americans to benefit from this emerging technology?	格鲁吉亚人和美国人从这种新兴技术中受益?
561	Congressman Collins, now you have 60 seconds.	柯林斯议员,你还有60秒
562	Thank you.	谢谢
563	I got it now.	我现在明白了
564	Yeah, sure.	当然
565	We're in a race with AI.	我们在和AI比赛
566	We're in a race against China for AI.	我们在对阵中国的AI比赛中.
567	What China actually wants is domination over the entire world.	中国真正想要的是统治整个世界.
568	It doesn't matter if it's economically.	何等为经济.
569	It doesn't matter if it's military.	虽有军功,亦无妨.
570	It just, whatever.	随便啦
571	And to have the potential that AI can provide for Americans, and it already is, is great.	拥有AI能为美国人提供的潜力, 并且已经是,是巨大的。
572	But we need to make sure that we protect our citizens.	但我们需要确保保护我们的公民。
573	We need to make sure that there's not an overreach with these AI centers that are out there	我们需要确保不会过度进入这些AI中心在那里。
574	and make sure that they're not prying on you and spying on you.	并确保他们不偷窥你和监视你。
575	What happens is what they need to do, and that's make our life more efficient and more productive.	事情的发生是他们需要做的,这使我们的生活更有效率和更有生产力.
576	Thank you, Congressman.	谢谢你,议员
577	Candidates, that's all for this particular segment.	候选人,这些都是为了这个特定部分
578	We are going to move on after a quick break.	在短暂休息之后,我们将继续前进。
579	Debate Night Live continues right after this.	辩论之夜继续
580	Welcome back to the U.S. Senate debate between Republican Congressman Mike Collins	欢迎回到美国参议院辩论共和党众议员迈克·柯林斯
581	and incumbent Democratic Senator John Ossoff.	现任民主党参议员约翰·奥索夫
582	The next question is for you, Senator.	下一个问题要问你,参议员
583	Yesterday was the three-year mark since the October 7th terror attack in Israel.	昨天是10月7日以色列恐怖袭击以来的三年。
584	Israel's response has led to a major divide in your party,	以色列的反应导致了你党的重大分裂
585	with many prominent Democrats accusing Israel of committing genocide.	与许多著名民主党人指控以色列犯下种族灭绝.
586	You yourself voted to block a shipment of arms to Israel,	你自己投票阻止了一批军火运往以色列,
587	seen by many in Atlanta's Jewish community as a betrayal.	被亚特兰大犹太社区许多人视为背叛.
588	Do you believe Israel is guilty of committing genocide?	你相信以色列犯下种族灭绝罪行吗?
589	Are you alarmed by the growing anti-Israel sentiment within your party?	你对你的党内越来越强烈的反以色列情绪感到震惊吗?
590	And will you vote yes or no on the administration's	你会投票是或否政府
591	latest $2.8 billion weapons package for Israel?	最近给以色列的28亿美元武器包?
592	And you have 60 seconds.	还有60秒
593	Thank you, Rick.	谢谢你,里克。
594	The question of genocide is a question of whether a government	种族灭绝问题是一个政府是否
595	has the specific intent to destroy a national or ethnic group.	具有摧毁某一民族或族裔群体的具体意图。
596	And that is a question for the International Criminal Court.	这是国际刑事法院的一个问题。
597	There is no doubt in my mind that Israeli forces prosecuting the war in Gaza violated	我毫不怀疑,起诉加沙战争的以色列部队违反了
598	the law of armed conflict and international humanitarian law.	武装冲突法和国际人道主义法。
599	And I care deeply about the security of the Israeli people,	我非常关心以色列人民的安全,
600	among whom are members of my family.	他们当中有我家人
601	I also care about innocent Palestinian life, and make no apology for my votes.	我也关心无辜的巴勒斯坦人的生活,不为我的选票道歉。
602	But Congressman Mike Collins wants to sanction and defund the International Criminal Court.	但众议员迈克·柯林斯(Mike Collins)希望制裁并撤资国际刑事法院.
603	His view is that there should not be accountability	他认为不应实行问责制。
604	for crimes against humanity, no matter who commits them.	无论谁犯下了危害人类罪
605	And that's because the Congressman is deeply disconnected from our state's tradition	那是因为议员们和我们州的传统脱节
606	of civil rights and human rights.	公民权利和政治权利。
607	Thank you, Senator.	谢谢,参议员
608	Congressman Collins, I'd like to give you 30 seconds to respond.	科林斯议员,我想给你30秒的回答
609	Yeah, you know, George, I think I'm putting this puzzle together pretty good for you.	是啊,你知道,乔治, 我想我把这个谜题拼凑在一起对你很好。
610	You know, John Ossoff has been out there and recruited,	你知道,约翰・奥索夫已经在那里和招募,
611	supported and endorsed this Abdul El-Sayed.	支持并赞同阿卜杜勒·赛义德。
612	He hates Israel, loves Iran.	他憎恨以色列,爱伊朗.
613	That's his pick.	这是他的选择。
614	He's moved as far left as he can go.	他移动到左手边
615	As a matter of fact, this Hassan Piker, also the same way, he's out there.	事实上,这个哈桑·皮克,同样的方式,他也在那里.
616	And he's endorsed John Ossoff for president for 2028.	而他也认可约翰·奥索夫为2028年的总统.
617	So that's where his stance is.	这就是他的立场。
618	Don't let him fool you.	别让他骗你
619	He talks one way and he votes another way.	他用一种方式说话,用另一种方式投票。
620	Congressman Collins.	科林斯议员
621	I need to have the opportunity to respond to that.	我需要有机会对此作出反应。
622	Excuse me, Senator.	对不起,参议员。
623	I'm sorry, Congressman Collins.	对不起,柯林斯议员
624	Your opponent rarely mentions your name without calling you a bigot,	你的对手很少提到你的名字却不叫你偏执
625	though many feel you have not adequately addressed the fact that your son-in-law	虽然很多人觉得你没有充分解决你女婿的事实
626	is a white supremacist social media influencer.	是一个白人至上派的社交媒体影响者。
627	And several members of your staff have been linked to racism and anti-Semitism.	你们的几个工作人员都与种族主义和反犹太主义有关
628	Take Georgia voters to your family dinner table.	带乔治亚选民到你的家庭晚餐桌上去
629	What specifically have you said to your daughter and son-in-law about his posts?	你对你女儿和女婿说了什么?
630	And will you once and for all denounce white supremacy?	你会永远谴责白人至上吗?
631	You have 60 seconds.	你有60秒时间。
632	You know, Rick, that's my family.	瑞克,这是我的家
633	That's the craziness that John Ossoff has been spewing out there.	这就是约翰·奥索夫一直在那里发疯
634	I actually had a crazy person get put in jail this weekend	这周末我有个疯子被关进监狱
635	because he not only wanted to kill my son-in-law, but he wanted to kill me.	因为他不仅想杀我女婿而且想杀我
636	And you're exactly right.	你说得对
637	I've got a daughter and grandkids there, as well as my wife.	我有一个女儿和孙子还有我的妻子
638	I've condemned racism, anti-Semitism, hate.	我谴责种族主义、反犹太主义、仇恨
639	I don't care where the source is.	不思议源头何处.
640	And I tell him that, too.	我也告诉他了
641	It's wrong.	这是错误的。
642	We have no place in this world for that.	我们在这个世界上是没有这个位置的。
643	But I've never heard him say a word about his DSA pick up there,	但我从来没有听到他说过他的DSA在那里接应,
644	Abdul El-Sayed, Hassan Piker.	阿卜杜勒·赛义德,哈桑·皮克.
645	How about Reid Hoffman?	里德・霍夫曼怎么样?
646	None of those.	没有
647	He doesn't denounce anybody or anything or condemn them because he's part of them.	他不谴责任何人或任何东西也不谴责他们因为他是他们的一部分。
648	But yet he wants to take that and spew that on me.	但是他却想拿这个塞在我身上
649	That's not me.	这不是我。
650	When I had things happen, I'm a businessman.	当我有事情发生, 我是个商人。
651	I fired him.	我开除了他
652	I got rid of him.	我摆脱了他
653	Don't need him.	不需要他,我需要他,我需要他,你需要他吗?
654	Senator, 30 seconds.	参议员,30秒。
655	Imagine running for the U.S. Senate while neo-Nazi propaganda	想象一下竞选美国参议院而新纳粹的宣传
656	is disseminated to an audience of millions from your home.	从你家里传播给数百万观众
657	That's Mike Collins.	那是麦克柯林斯
658	And it's not just those around him.	而且不只是他身边的人
659	Mike Collins himself has amplified neo-Nazi propaganda online.	迈克·柯林斯本人在网上放大了新纳粹的宣传.
660	Mike Collins' office intervened at the Department of Justice	迈克·柯林斯的办公室介入了司法部
661	on behalf of a Holocaust denier while his office was in cahoots	代表一个否认大屠杀的否认者,而他的办公室在勾结
662	with some of the nation's most notorious white supremacists.	与一些全国最臭名昭著的白人至上主义者.
663	Mike Collins is a bigot and it's disqualifying for a candidate for the U.S. Senate.	迈克·柯林斯是个偏执狂,正在取消美国参议院候选人的资格.
664	Congressman, 30 seconds.	议员,30秒。
665	Imagine being a U.S.	想象成美国人
666	Senator and out there recruiting, endorsing,	参议员和外面的招募,认可,
667	and supporting these people that want to see Israel wiped off the mount.	支持那些想看到以色列被消灭的人
668	They would say that they would rather be for Iran than for Israel.	他们会说,他们宁愿是伊朗,而不是以色列。
669	That's who John Ossoff is supporting.	约翰·奥索夫就是支持他
670	He has yet to say anything about that.	他还没有说什么关于这一点。
671	Just like John Ossoff has yet to say anything about why he voted to raise your taxes.	就像约翰·奥索夫没有说他为什么投票提高你的税
672	He wanted to see your taxes doubled.	他希望看到你的税收增加一倍。
673	Matter of fact, he wants to see all your taxes.	事实上,他想看看你所有的税。
674	At the end of the day, what they're looking for is to have control over your life.	最后,他们想要的是控制你的生活
675	Why does he feel like that you don't have to have your money in your pocket	为什么他觉得你不必把钱放在口袋里
676	that they can spend it better than you?	他们能花得比你更好?
677	Congressman, thank you very much.	议员,非常感谢
678	Atlanta News First statewide reporter Abby Casores has our next question.	亚特兰大新闻第一全州记者艾比·卡索尔下个问题
679	This question is for both of you.	这个问题是给你们俩的
680	Georgia has been at the center of fights over voting rules and election administration.	格鲁吉亚一直处于投票规则和选举管理争夺的中心。
681	What voting rules should be left to Georgia to decide and when,	哪些表决规则应由格鲁吉亚决定,何时决定,
682	if ever, should the federal government step in?	联邦政府应该介入吗?
683	Senator, 60 seconds.	参议员,60秒。
684	Well, look, Georgia has voter ID and that's good.	听着佐治亚州有选民身份证这很好
685	Mike Collins and Donald Trump, they're still obsessed with overturning the 2020 election.	迈克·柯林斯和唐纳德·特朗普仍然沉迷于推翻2020年大选.
686	Mike Collins still believes the 2020 election was stolen.	迈克·柯林斯仍然认为2020年选举被盗.
687	Mike Collins has supported Donald Trump's effort to overturn the election	迈克·柯林斯支持唐纳德·特朗普推翻选举的努力.
688	and he wants to give your tax dollars to the violent thugs and criminals	他想把你的税钱给暴徒和罪犯
689	who sacked the U.S. Capitol on January 6th.	于1月6日将美国国会大楼解职
690	Mike Collins is attacking your voting rights,	麦克柯林斯在攻击你的投票权
691	but that's not a surprise when you consider who Mike Collins is.	但是当你考虑迈克·柯林斯是谁时这并不奇怪
692	This is a man who cheered on a group of young men	这是一群年轻人的欢呼声
693	who were mocking a black woman on a college campus with monkey sounds.	在大学校园里嘲笑一个黑人女人听到猴子的声音
694	If John Lewis were marching today from Selma to Montgomery,	如果约翰·刘易斯今天从塞尔玛游行到蒙哥马利
695	Mike Collins would be grabbing a billy club.	迈克·柯林斯会抓住一个俱乐部
696	His office has been in cahoots with some of the most notorious white supremacists on the country.	他的办公室一直与国内一些最臭名昭著的白人至上主义者勾结.
697	He himself has amplified neo-Nazi propaganda.	他本人也放大了新纳粹的宣传.
698	He's never apologized for it and he should tonight.	他从不为此道歉他今晚应该道歉
699	Congressman Collins, you have 60 seconds.	科林斯议员,你还有60秒
700	Yeah, you know, I'll say this.	是啊,你知道,我会说这个。
701	Voters need confidence.	选民需要信心。
702	They need to know, you know, we live in the best country in the world	他们需要知道,你知道, 我们生活在世界上最好的国家
703	and there's no reason that we shouldn't have the most secure elections in the world.	我们没有理由不举行世界上最安全的选举
704	John Ossoff has voted against the SAVE Act numerous times.	约翰·奥索夫多次投票反对SAVE法案.
705	Georgia, you're right, has a voter ID law	佐治亚州,你说得对,有选民身份证法
706	and we've seen historic people,	我们见过历史性的人,
707	amounts of people that have voted since that has been in place,	投票人数,
708	but we need that across the country.	但我们需要在全国各地这样做。
709	There's no reason that you shouldn't have to show an ID to go in and vote.	你没必要出示身份证才能进去投票
710	My goodness, John Ossoff requires you to show an ID to show up at his rally,	天啊约翰·奥索夫要你出示身份证才能出现在他的集会上
711	but he doesn't think you need to do that to go vote.	但他不认为你需要这样做去投票。
712	People will go vote when they have confidence in our elections.	当人们对我们的选举有信心时,他们会去投票。
713	Until then, it is hard and they just want to make sure that it is a fair,	在那之前,这是很难的他们只是想确保这是一个公平,
714	equitable election out there.	公平选举。
715	Congressman, thank you very much.	议员,非常感谢
716	Mike Sela is up next.	接下来是迈克·塞拉
717	Go ahead, Mike.	来吧,迈克。
718	This question is for both candidates.	这个问题是针对两位候选人的。
719	How should the United States handle trade tariffs and economic competition with China	美国应如何处理与中国的贸易关税和经济竞争
720	without hurting Georgia's manufacturing sector and the cargo volume at the port of Savannah?	不伤害格鲁吉亚的制造业和萨凡纳港的货物量?
721	Congressman, 60 seconds.	议员,60秒。
722	Yeah, you know, Savannah port and Brunswick port both have been on my mind.	是啊,你知道,萨凡纳港和不伦瑞克港都在我的脑海里。
723	As a matter of fact, I'm chairman of water resource environment subcommittee.	事实上我是水资源环境小组委员会主席
724	One of the first things I did was go down to Brunswick and make sure that	我最先做的一件事就是去不伦瑞克确保
725	that place has not been fully dredged since 2015.	自2015年以来,该地尚未完全疏浚。
726	Make sure that they got that done and they've gotten that.	确保他们做到了,他们已经得到了。
727	Now we don't have to bring in half loads or take out half of loads.	现在,我们不必带一半的负载或取出一半的负载.
728	Went up to Savannah and made sure that they got that study	去萨凡纳,确保他们得到了研究
729	to where they could widen and deepen that.	到他们可以扩大和加深这一点的地方。
730	That is such a huge impact on the state of Georgia.	这是对格鲁吉亚国的巨大影响。
731	And it's causing where we'll have an economic boom, not only just bringing goods in,	不仅把货物运进来也会引起经济繁荣
732	but being able to ship goods out because the tariffs there are making it fair	但能够运货因为那里的关税使它公平
733	and making sure just like the fellow I talked about with two days ago that said	就像我两天前跟那个家伙说的一样
734	he was getting his brains beat in because China was bringing in the same goods he was	他被打得头晕脑裂因为中国给他带来了同样的货
735	manufacturing right here in Putnam County and he couldn't compete with them	普南县的制造业他无法和他们竞争
736	because they don't care if they don't make money.	因为他们不在乎他们不赚钱。
737	See, John Ossoff doesn't know.	你看,约翰·奥索夫不知道。
738	He still won't answer why he voted to raise your taxes and not let you keep more money.	他还是不回答为什么他投票提高你的税收也不让你多留钱。
739	Thank you, Congressman.	谢谢你,议员
740	Senator Ossoff, you have 60 seconds.	奥索夫参议员,你还有60秒
741	Well, you just heard Mike Collins say the tariffs are working.	你刚听到迈克柯林斯说关税有效
742	Go buy groceries.	去买东西吧
743	No one in this state seriously believes these tariffs are working, Congressman.	这个州没有人真的相信这些关税是有效的,议员.
744	It's been a disaster.	已而大灾.
745	And so has this war, a war, by the way, that we were lied into.	顺便说一句,这场战争也是我们被骗的
746	They told us last year that they'd obliterated Iran's nuclear program.	去年他们告诉我们他们已经消灭了伊朗的核计划
747	This year, they told us it posed an imminent threat.	今年,他们告诉我们,这构成了迫在眉睫的威胁。
748	So on top of the tariffs now, we have eight months of war,	所以现在除了关税之外我们还有八个月的战争
749	18 Americans killed in action, hundreds wounded.	18名美国人阵亡,数百人受伤.
750	Iran still has its uranium.	伊朗仍有铀。
751	Iran still has its drones and missiles, diesels at an all-time high,	伊朗仍有无人机和导弹柴油机创历史新高
752	unleaded gas is at $4.	无铅气为4元.
753	So we've heard from the Congressman that he thinks the tariffs are working.	我们从议员那里听说他认为关税是有效的。
754	I think the Congressman deserves an opportunity	我觉得议员应该有机会
755	to say whether he believes this war has been a success.	说他是否相信这场战争是成功的
756	Thank you very much.	谢谢
757	Let's move on.	让我们继续前进。
758	Will Rio有下一个问题
759	Go ahead, Will.	来吧,威尔。
760	Senator Ossoff, you sit on the Senate Intelligence Committee.	Ossoff参议员你担任参议院情报委员会的委员
761	How do we counter foreign adversaries without triggering	我们如何对抗外国对手而不触发
762	retaliatory trade embargoes on Georgia farm exports?	对格鲁吉亚农产品出口的报复性贸易禁运?
763	Well, thank you for the question.	谢谢你的问候
764	And it is Georgia farmers who have been crushed by retaliation for these tariffs.	而正是佐治亚州的农民因为这些关税的报复而被压垮.
765	I mentioned earlier that when Georgia pecan growers faced those massive Indian tariffs,	我早些时候提到,当佐治亚州豌豆种植者面临这些巨大的印度关税时,
766	I sat down seven times with India's ambassador to the United States.	我与印度驻美国大使七次坐下。
767	I led a trade delegation.	我领导了一个贸易代表团。
768	I got them to agree to reduce those tariffs.	我让他们同意降低关税
769	But as we speak right now, it's Georgia farmers	但当我们说话的时候,是乔治亚农民
770	bearing the brunt of the Mike Collins, Donald Trump tariffs.	受麦克·柯林斯的首当其冲唐纳德·特朗普的关税
771	Just like it's Georgia farmers bearing the brunt of these high diesel prices,	就像佐治亚州农民承受了这些高柴油价格的冲击
772	it costs more than ever to buy a tractor for your farm.	为了你的农场买拖拉机比任何时候都要贵
773	Family farms are going under.	家庭农场正在倒塌。
774	And this also was predictable.	这也是可以预测的。
775	Just like it was predictable that his votes would double health insurance premiums	就像可以预测的那样他的投票会把医疗保险费增加一倍
776	for more than a million Georgians, we knew what the consequences of these tariffs would be.	对于100多万格鲁吉亚人,我们知道这些关税的后果是什么。
777	And still, he voted for them.	尽管如此,他还是投给他们。
778	And I'll tell you why.	我告诉你为什么。
779	It's because whatever Donald Trump says, Mike Collins does.	这是因为无论唐纳德·特朗普怎么说,麦克·柯林斯都会这么做.
780	Doesn't matter what it is.	无所谓
781	Doesn't think for himself.	不为自己考虑。
782	I'd like the congressman to say if there's a single time he has voted against Donald Trump.	我希望议员说,如果他有一次投票反对唐纳德·特朗普.
783	This is a question for Congressman Collins, and it's a long one, so bear with me.	这是对柯林斯议员的问话,很长的,请原谅我。
784	But after the Hyundai battery plant raid last year, Governor Kemp and business leaders said	但去年现代电池厂突袭后肯普州长和企业领导说
785	that the incident exposed a problem with the U.S. visa system and called for change.	事件暴露了美国签证制度的问题,并呼吁改变.
786	A year later, that system has largely remained the same.	一年后,这一制度基本上保持不变。
787	If you're elected, what specifically would you change about the federal visa policy	如果你当选了你会改变联邦签证政策
788	to make sure companies investing billions in Georgia can bring in specialized workers	确保在格鲁吉亚投资数十亿的公司能够引进专门工人;
789	legally without creating a loophole for employers to replace American workers?	法律上没有给雇主制造漏洞来取代美国工人?
790	60 seconds, Congress.	60秒,国会。
791	Sure, you know, and here's what I want the American people to know.	当然,你知道的,这里我要让美国人民知道。
792	There are so many parts of our federal government that are just antiquated.	我们的联邦政府有很多部分是过时的
793	And the reason is it's because we don't do our job up there.	原因是我们没有做好我们的工作
794	We don't pass appropriation bills and you don't hold them accountable and you don't make the	我们不通过拨款法案而你不追究他们的责任
795	necessary.	有必要。
796	And that's why you still see problems.	这就是为什么你仍然看到问题。
797	We don't go in and tell the federal government, you got to fix it.	我们不会去告诉联邦政府你得修好它
798	And they just continue down the same road.	他们继续沿着同一条路走
799	We need people coming into our country.	我们需要有人来我们的国家。
800	We need them coming in legally.	我们需要他们合法进入。
801	You know, John Ossoff just mentioned on service members out there.	你知道,约翰・奥索夫刚刚提到服务成员在那里。
802	You know, he comes to Georgia and he talks about, does press conferences on VA home	你知道,他来到乔治亚州他谈论, 做记者招待会关于VA家
803	mortgages have nothing to do with that piece of legislation?	抵押贷款和那份立法无关?
804	He goes out and says that he helped get the pay raise for our current active military.	他出去说他帮我们为现在的现役军人加薪
805	He voted against that bill.	他投票反对该法案。
806	He also said that he was responsible, voted for the infrastructure improvements at Fort	他还说,他有责任,投票改善堡垒的基础设施
807	Benning and Fort Stewart.	本宁和斯图尔特堡.
808	He voted against that bill as well.	他也投票反对该法案。
809	He's coming to Georgia.	他要来乔治亚了
810	He's telling you one thing and he's going right back up there and he's voting a different way.	他告诉你一件事他马上回去投票方式不同
811	Senator, 30 seconds.	参议员,30秒。
812	You know, when I talk to military families across the state, they want to know that their	你知道,当我与全州的军事家庭交谈时, 他们想知道他们
813	government is being honest with them about why we go to war.	政府对他们诚实地说,我们为什么要打仗。
814	So let's honor those service members as public officials and tell them the truth.	因此,让我们以公职人员的身分向服务人员致敬,告诉他们真相。
815	This war has been a disaster.	这场战争是一场灾难。
816	18 Americans have been killed.	18个美国人被杀了
817	Hundreds have been wounded.	数百人受伤。
818	The president declared victory on day four of this conflict.	总统在这场冲突的第四天宣布了胜利。
819	You want to support the troops?	你想支持部队吗?
820	Why don't you explain to Georgians right now, Congressman, how this war has been a success?	议员,你为什么不现在就向格鲁吉亚人解释一下这场战争是如何成功的?
821	This is your chance.	这是你的机会
822	Congressman, I'll give you 30 seconds if you'd like to defend the war.	议员,如果你想保卫战争,我给你30秒
823	The president had every right to go in there and make sure that Iran does not get a nuclear	总统完全有权进去确保伊朗没有核武器
824	weapon.	武器枪
825	John Ossoff knows this.	约翰·奥索夫知道这一点。
826	The IAEA, they had already sounded the bells, the alarms that Iran was close to getting	原子能机构,他们已经敲响了钟声, 响起的警报,伊朗即将得到
827	a nuclear weapon.	核武器。
828	And the thing is, Iran doesn't only want to decimate and kill Israel, they want us as	问题是,伊朗不仅想要毁灭和杀害以色列, 他们想要我们
829	well.	不错
830	We've been at war with this regime for 47 years.	我们与这个政权交战了47年.
831	They've been killing American service members for 47 years and they were this close to getting	他们已经杀了美国服务会员47年了他们差这么一点就得到了
832	a nuclear weapon.	核武器。
833	And they would have used it.	他们会用它。
834	We would have lost the cities.	我们会失去城市。
835	Thank you, Congressman.	谢谢你,议员
836	Thank you, gentlemen.	谢谢各位
837	We're going to take one more break.	我们再休息一会儿
838	We will be right back with more questions and answers in this 2026 U.S. Senate debate.	在2026年的美国参议院辩论中,我们将带着更多的问答回来.
839	Welcome back to debate night live, the race for Senate.	欢迎回到辩论夜现场竞选参议院
840	Our final segment begins with a question from Adamar Montaña.	我们的最后一段从阿达玛蒙塔那问起。
841	This is both candidates.	这两位都是候选人。
842	Immigrant households generate more than $52 billion in annual income and fill critical	移民家庭的年收入超过520亿美元并填补危机
843	roles in Georgia's agriculture, construction and manufacturing industries.	在格鲁吉亚的农业、建筑和制造业中的作用。
844	Analysts estimate large-scale deportations could cost nearly $930 million in state and	分析人员估计,大规模驱逐在州内可能花费近9.3亿美元。
845	local taxes.	地方税收。
846	How do you secure our borders and deport violent offenders without starving Georgia's	如何确保边境安全并驱逐暴力罪犯不饿死格鲁吉亚
847	farms and construction sites of needed labor?	农场和需要劳动力的建筑工地?
848	Congressman Collins, 60 seconds.	科林斯议员,60秒
849	Yeah, sure.	当然
850	You know that border's been secure.	你知道边界安全
851	It is secure now, people.	现在安全了,各位
852	And lowest rates ever that's coming across.	和最低的利率有史以来,这是跨越。
853	And that's the way it should be.	亦应如是.
854	You should come into this country legally, period.	你应该合法地进入这个国家
855	Do we need help?	我们需要帮助吗?
856	Yes, we do.	没错
857	You know, we need H2A visas to be fixed.	我们需要H2A签证
858	They need to be there.	他们需要在那里。
859	It gets back to this federal bureaucracy.	它回到这个联邦官僚机构。
860	It needs to be improved to where it's more efficient and more productive to get these	需要改进到效率更高,生产效率更高的地方
861	people in and out.	人进出。
862	Illegal immigrants, though, that John Ossoff led into this country, not only were coming	但是,非法移民,约翰·奥索夫带领进入这个国家,不仅来了
863	over here killing people and murdering people like Lake and Raleigh, and he wouldn't shut	在这里杀人和谋杀像湖和罗利, 他不会关闭
864	door on it, human trafficking that he just let continue to flow, but they were also taking	他让人口贩运继续流传,但他们也带走了
865	the jobs that young people, young Americans could go out there and get and hampering	年轻人,美国年轻人可能去那里得到和阻碍的工作
866	them.	他们。
867	You want to give jobs to Americans and then you'll see your taxes continue to flow into	你想给美国人找工作然后你就会看到你的税收继续流入
868	this country and all their paychecks won't be going back to the country that they came	这个国家和他们所有的薪水不会回到他们来的国家
869	from to support their families back here.	养家糊口
870	They'll support the young American families that are here.	他们会支持在这里的美国年轻家庭.
871	Senator, 60 seconds.	参议员,60秒。
872	Georgians do expect and deserve secure borders, and that's why I worked with Senator Cornyn	格鲁吉亚人的确期待并值得安全的边界,所以我和Cornyn参议员合作
873	of Texas to rush drug detection equipment to ports of entry.	德克萨斯州将毒品侦测设备赶到入境口岸
874	Georgians also expect their government to uphold basic standards of decency and human	格鲁吉亚人还期望其政府坚持体面和人道的基本标准。
875	rights and civil rights.	人权和公民权利。
876	And what have we seen this last year and a half?	我们去年半年看到什么了?
877	You know, they promised to go after the worst of the worst.	你知道,他们答应去后最糟糕的。
878	Instead, they've rounded up people at job sites with no suspicion of any criminal history.	相反,他们抓捕了在工作地点的人没有怀疑任何犯罪历史。
879	They've ripped breastfeeding infants from their mothers.	他们从母亲身上撕裂了哺乳婴儿.
880	They've unleashed federal agents to kill Americans on the streets of our cities with impunity.	他们释放了联邦特工在城市街道上杀害美国人而不受惩罚
881	That's Mike Collins' immigration policy.	这是迈克·柯林斯的移民政策.
882	And that's what you would expect from the bigot congressman who called for executing	这就是你期望的从偏执的议员谁呼吁执行
883	immigrants by throwing them to their deaths out of helicopters, who still won't apologize	移民们用直升机把他们扔到死他们还是不会道歉
884	for personally amplifying neo-Nazi propaganda and allowing it to be disseminated from his	他个人扩大新纳粹宣传并允许从他那里传播新纳粹宣传
885	home.	回家去回家来
886	Senator, thank you.	参议员,谢谢你
887	Congressman, 30 seconds.	议员,30秒。
888	30 seconds, yeah.	30秒对
889	Last year, this time, farmers, think about this.	去年,这次,农民们,想想这个.
890	John Ossoff shut the government down right when we were trying to get you that money	John Ossoff把政府关了当我们想给你钱的时候
891	out because you needed help.	出来是因为你需要帮助。
892	Hurricane Helene had decimated your farms and you needed help to make sure that you	飓风海伦摧毁了你们的农场你需要帮助以确保你
893	could get next year's crops out.	明年的庄稼就可以出来了
894	What did he do?	他做了什麽?
895	He shut it down because he wants to defund all law enforcement.	他关闭它,因为他想退款所有执法。
896	But he wanted to defund Border Patrol and ICE, the people that are out there keeping	但他想给边境巡逻队和ICE解冻外面的人
897	us safe and getting these illegal criminals off our streets and out of our country.	安全带这些非法罪犯离开我们的国家
898	Senator, 30 seconds.	参议员,30秒。
899	To hear Mike Collins talk about honoring law enforcement, when Mike Collins supports	听到迈克柯林斯谈论荣誉执法, 当迈克柯林斯支持
900	taking your tax dollars and giving it to the people who assaulted police and sacked the	拿走你的税金并把它给那些攻击警察的人并解雇
901	United States Capitol on January 6th, to overturn that election.	1月6日美国首都推翻这次选举
902	Mike Collins is one of the most extreme members of Congress.	迈克·柯林斯是国会最极端的成员之一.
903	He's a Trump puppet election denier.	他是一个特朗普傀儡选举否认者.
904	I want to hear if Mike still believes the 2020 election was stolen.	我想知道迈克是否还相信2020年选举是被偷的.
905	What do you say, Mike?	你说呢,迈克?
906	Senator, thank you.	参议员,谢谢你
907	Abby Kasouris,你还有下一个问题
908	Congressman Collins, you authored the Lake and Riley Act, which requires detention of	柯林斯议员,你写了《湖和莱利法案》要求拘留
909	certain immigrants charged with crimes.	某些移民被指控犯罪。
910	As a U.S. senator, what more would you do to ensure those who are legally subject to	作为一名美国参议员,你还能做哪些工作来确保那些在法律上受法律约束的人
911	are actually deported and communities aren't forced to pay for extended stay in Georgia jails?	是否强迫社区支付在格鲁吉亚监狱长期居留的费用?
912	You know, it's been amazing.	你知道,这是惊人的。
913	I was, see, I was, I've been, man, we've been clocking 2,000 miles a week for the	我,我,我一直,伙计, 我们一直钟表每周2000英里为
914	past couple of weeks.	过去几周
915	I'm out across the state seeing people.	我横跨全州看人.
916	I'm not holed up in Atlanta, Georgia and run out and do a little press conference.	我没有躲在亚特兰大,乔治亚州跑出去做一个小新闻发布会。
917	And talking about the Lake and Riley Act, talked with a couple of DAs and assistant DAs.	并谈到"湖和莱利法案",与几个DA和助理DA交谈.
918	And they said, Mike, because of the Lake and Riley Act,	他们说,迈克,因为湖和莱利法案,
919	that one little four-page piece of legislation, which John Isoff never helped lift a finger to	一个四页的小立法约翰·伊索夫从未帮助过
920	get me pushed and kept that get across the finish line.	把我推到最后一步继续穿过终点线
921	He could have passed it when Joe Biden was the president, but he didn't.	乔·拜登担任总统时他本可以通过,但他没有通过.
922	I mean, at the end of the day, he voted for it.	我的意思是,在一天结束时, 他投票支持它。
923	But what they're telling me is, Mike, we have people in our jails right now on ICE detainers	但是他们告诉我,麦克,我们监狱里有人被ICE拘留
924	that otherwise we would have had to have let go.	否则我们不得不放手
925	And they would be right back out there in the public committing crimes and continuing	他们就会在公众面前犯罪继续
926	their criminal trades.	他们的犯罪交易。
927	So it's been a great success.	故此功德圆满.
928	We need to continue that to make sure we need to continue to make sure that that border	我们需要继续这样做,以确保我们需要继续确保这一边界。
929	stays stays closed down.	保持关闭。
930	Thank you.	谢谢
931	Come in the right way.	来对了
932	Rosalind Giles, you have the next question.	罗莎琳德·吉尔斯,你还有下一个问题
933	Thank you, Rick.	谢谢你,里克。
934	Senator Ossoff, Congressman Collins says you never supported the Lake and Riley Act	奥索夫参议员柯林斯议员说你从未支持过湖和莱利法案
935	and only voted yes once passage was already assured.	并且只有在通过之后才投赞成票。
936	Pointing to your March 2024 vote against a related procedural measure,	指你2024年3月投票反对相关程序措施,
937	was your position genuinely evolving?	你的立场真的在演变吗?
938	Was this a political calculation timed to your reelection?	这是你连任时的政治计算吗?
939	And what specific changes do you want to see in the bill that you didn't get?	你想在账单中看到什么你没有得到的具体变化?
940	Well, Mike Collins knows that's a lie.	迈克·柯林斯知道那是谎言
941	But listen, folks, again, what did they tell us?	但听着,伙计们,再次, 他们告诉我们什么?
942	They told us they were going to go after the worst of the worst.	他们告诉我们,他们要去追寻最糟糕的。
943	They told us they were going to target hardened criminals.	他们告诉我们他们要对付硬化的罪犯
944	And immigration enforcement should focus on those who pose a threat to public safety.	移民执法应侧重于对公共安全构成威胁的人。
945	But that's not what they've done.	但这不是他们做的。
946	My office has been investigating abuses in ICE detention for the last year and a half.	我的办公室在过去的一年半里一直在调查ICE拘留中的侵权行为.
947	We've documented more than 1000 credible reports of human rights abuses	我们记录了1000多份关于侵犯人权的可信报告
948	in ICE detention facilities.	在ICE拘留设施。
949	There was an infant who had to go into intensive care	有个婴儿不得不接受重症监护
950	because that child's mother was deported while that child was still breastfeeding.	因为那个孩子的母亲被驱逐出境而那个孩子仍在哺乳。
951	These are human rights abuses that Mike Collins and Donald Trump bear responsibility for.	这些是麦克·柯林斯和唐纳德·特朗普应负的侵犯人权行为.
952	Remember, they unleashed federal agents in American cities	记住,他们在美国城市释放了联邦特工
953	wearing masks who killed American citizens.	戴着杀死美国公民的面具
954	And Mike Collins and Donald Trump should answer for that.	迈克·柯林斯和唐纳德·特朗普应该对此负责.
955	Thank you, Senator.	谢谢,参议员
956	That concludes the question portion of tonight's debate.	今晚辩论的问题部分到此结束。
957	We will end now with closing statements from each of you.	我们现在以你们每个人的闭幕词结束发言。
958	Congressman Collins, since you won the coin toss and elected to get the last word.	科林斯议员,因为你赢得了硬币投注并当选获得最后一个字。
959	Senator Ossoff, will you begin your closing statement?	奥索夫参议员,请开始你的闭幕词?
960	Well, Rick, thanks for having us.	瑞克谢谢你邀请我们
961	Thank you again to Gray Media.	再次感谢格雷媒体。
962	You know, each time Mike has called himself a trucker tonight,	你知道,每一次迈克自称是卡车司机今晚,
963	you'd think he's cruising down 85 behind the wheel.	你会认为他在转弯后85转
964	This is a congressman's son who inherited a seat in Congress,	这是国会议员的儿子他继承了国会的席位
965	who now runs his daddy's trucking company,	谁现在经营他爸爸的卡车公司,
966	who voted seven times for the war in Iran, who voted for the tariffs,	他曾七次投票支持伊朗战争并投票支持关税,
967	who voted to cut your health care.	谁投票削减你的保健。
968	Also, he could give a tax break to data center developers	另外,他还可以给数据中心的开发者一个免税期
969	and some of the wealthiest people in the country.	以及国内最富有的人
970	His office has been in cahoots with some of the most notorious white supremacists in America.	他的办公室一直与一些美国最臭名昭著的白人至上主义者勾结.
971	He's already brought disgrace to our state.	他已经给我们国家带来耻辱了
972	But I am so grateful to Georgians for investing the trust in me	但我非常感激格鲁吉亚人对我的信任
973	to represent Georgia in the Senate.	代表格鲁吉亚参加参议院。
974	I've stood up to the drug companies, to the big tech companies,	我挺身而出药物公司, 大技术公司,
975	and to the insurance companies who are denying us the care that we need when we need it.	以及那些拒绝我们需要的照顾的保险公司
976	And I humbly ask for your continued support in this election.	我恳求你继续支持这次选举
977	Thank you so much for having us.	谢谢你邀请我们
978	Congressman Collins, your closing statement.	柯林斯议员你的闭幕词
979	Yeah, you know, Georgia, we still haven't heard	乔治娅,我们还没听说
980	why John Ossoff votes the way he does.	为什么约翰·奥索夫会像他那样投票
981	Why he votes almost 100% of the time with Bernie Sanders.	为什么他几乎100%地投给伯尼·桑德斯.
982	Why he voted against our farmers.	他为什么投票反对我们的农民。
983	Why he voted against hardworking Georgians out there.	他为什么投票反对勤劳的格鲁吉亚人在那里。
984	Why he's out there recruiting, supporting, endorsing	他为什么在外面招募、支持、支持
985	these Democrat Socialist of America candidates	美国民主社会主义者候选人
986	and being endorsed by Hassan Piker, the guy that said that America deserved 9-11.	并得到了哈桑·皮克的认可, 那家伙说,美国应得的9 -11。
987	There's a reason.	是有因缘.
988	Those aren't even Georgia values.	这些甚至不是格鲁吉亚的价值观。
989	Those aren't even American values.	这些甚至不是美国的价值观。
990	The reason is, is because he doesn't represent us.	原因是,因为他不代表我们。
991	He wants to take control of this country with these weird	他想用这些怪异的东西控制这个国家
992	and dangerous ideas with his radical friends.	和他激进的朋友们的危险想法
993	Listen, help me get to the U.S. Senate.	听着帮我到美国参议院
994	Help me get there.	帮我到那里。
995	And I'll answer to Georgia.	我会回答乔治亚。
996	And I'll deliver.	我会提供。
997	I'll fight for our state, not against it.	吾为吾州而战,非敌也.
998	You vote for me and this old trucker.	你投我和这个老卡车司机的票
999	Thank you, Congressman.	谢谢你,议员
1000	That concludes tonight's U.S. Senate debate.	今晚美国参议院的辩论结束了
1001	Early voting begins this coming Tuesday, October 13th.	提前投票将于10月13日星期二开始。
1002	Election day is November 3rd.	选举日为11月3日.
1003	I'm Rick Folbaum.	我是里克・福尔鲍姆。
1004	Debate Night Live continues next with a special edition of On the Record.	"辩论夜现场"接下来是特别版"On the Record".
1005	Thanks for joining us.	谢谢你加入我们

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