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NHL创估值纪录:全面进入十亿美元时代 | 2026.9.3

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0:07Steve, thanks so much for being here.史蒂夫,非常感谢你来到这里。
0:08It's a pleasure to be here.幸会
0:09Thanks for having me.谢谢你邀请我
0:10It's exciting to be here because I think according to来这里很激动 因为我觉得
0:12the Forbes valuations of major sports leagues,主要体育联赛的福布斯估值,
0:16the NHL has been one of the most exciting to track.NHL一直是最令人兴奋的追踪之一。
0:19According to our reporting,根据我们的报告
0:21you have two clubs that are worth你有两个俱乐部值得
0:23$4 billion across the entire league.整个联赛共40亿美元.
0:26Franchises are averaging a value of $2.2 billion.法郎平均价值22亿美元。
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1Steve, thanks so much for being here.史蒂夫,非常感谢你来到这里。
2It's a pleasure to be here.幸会
3Thanks for having me.谢谢你邀请我
4It's exciting to be here because I think according to来这里很激动 因为我觉得
5the Forbes valuations of major sports leagues,主要体育联赛的福布斯估值,
6the NHL has been one of the most exciting to track.NHL一直是最令人兴奋的追踪之一。
7According to our reporting,根据我们的报告
8you have two clubs that are worth你有两个俱乐部值得
9$4 billion across the entire league.整个联赛共40亿美元.
10Franchises are averaging a value of $2.2 billion.法郎平均价值22亿美元。
11That is more than double what they were three years ago.这比三年前多了一倍多。
12You've been at the league 17 years.你已经在联赛17年了。
13What have the past three years felt like from your position?从你的立场上看过去三年有什么感觉?
14In terms of valuation,在估价方面,
15we actually feel like we're starting to get我们真的觉得我们 开始得到
16the recognition that we deserve in terms of valuation.在估价方面我们应该得到的承认。
17I will say, I know you're not writing the valuation pieces.и穦弧 и笵⊿糶计沮
18We're undervalued and I'll continue to say we're undervalued,我们被低估了 我会继续说我们被低估了
19even at $2.2 billion and a couple of clubs over $4 billion.甚至22亿美元 和几家俱乐部超过40亿美元。
20We think our economic system,我们认为我们的经济体系,
21the collective bargaining agreement集体谈判协议
22that we have in place with our players,我们与我们的玩家,
23which creates predictable economics,它创造了可预测的经济,
24a hard salary cap for our teams我们的球队的硬工资上限
25and our leadership to plan against.和我们的领导层 计划反对。
26It really creates underlying value它真的创造了基础价值
27that I think the outside world我觉得外面的世界
28is just starting to recognize.才刚开始认识
29There's predictable or more predictable returns有可预测的或更可预测的回报
30in terms of what you're spending在你花费多少方面
31on various parts of your business.有关你不同业务的部分。
32And that matters, right?这很重要,对吧?
33In today's world of unpredictable economics,在当今不可预测的经济世界中,
34unpredictable costs in certain parts of the economy,某些经济部门无法预测的成本,
35knowing that certain pieces of our economics are locked in明知我们经济的某些部分被锁定
36really is an important value.真正的价值。
37So combine the growth that we've achieved因此,结合我们已经实现的增长
38over the last decade in terms of national engagement,过去十年来,就国家参与而言,
39the international pathway that we have in front of us,我们面前的国际道路,
40a lot of the metrics that you're starting to see你开始看到很多衡量标准
41really pop in terms of our ratings and our fan engagement,从我们的收视率和粉丝参与度来看
42plus the economic system we have in place.再加上我们的经济体制
43It all kind of comes together都凑在一起了
44and has helped support that valuation growth.并帮助支持这一估值增长。
45Talk about the growth evaluations谈谈增长评估
46and the institutional capital.和机构的资本。
47We're in spring, 2026.2026年春运.
48So if you're talking to a new source所以,如果你在跟一个新的来源说话
49of institutional capital,体制资本,
50what would you tell them about why the NHL你会怎么告诉他们 为什么NHL
51is a good investment right now?现在投资不错吧?
52Yeah, look, I think you would focus on the upside是啊,你看,我认为你会 专注于颠倒
53that we have in front of us.是我们面前的
54You'd focus on what we think is a price point你会专注于我们认为是价点的东西
55that's when you look at the landscape of sports当你看到运动的风景
56and the ability to get into sports at certain price points,以及在某些价格点进入运动的能力,
57we still think the price point,我们仍然认为价格点,
58the entry to get into the NHL进入NHL的条目
59is still an affordable entry price, right?还是价钱低廉的,对吧?
60At $2.2 billion, it's a lot of money22亿美金,是一大笔钱
61and it's a very high valuation,价值很高,
62but relative to what you're seeing in some other leagues但相对于你在其他联赛中看到的
63and some other industries,和其他一些行业,
64it's still an approachable price point,这还是个可行的价格点
65if you can call it that.如果你可以这么说的话
66So there's the ability to come in at a level所以,有 进入一个层次的能力
67where we think the upside is significant.在那里,我们认为 颠倒是重要的。
68So you've talked about the technology所以,你已经谈到技术
69and the growth that technology partnerships,以及技术伙伴关系的发展,
70the growth that technology applications技术应用的增长
71have brought to our game and to our league带来了我们的游戏和我们的联盟
72and to our business.和我们的生意。
73That's going to accelerate over time.随着时间的推移,这将加快速度。
74Our international plans are accelerating我们的国际计划正在加速
75the growth potential that we see我们看到的增长潜力
76in historically strong hockey markets overseas.在历史上强大的冰球市场 海外。
77Europe is a traditionally strong hockey market欧洲是一个传统上很强的冰球市场
78that we've been participating in for a long time,我们已经参与很久了
79but we've really solidified plans但我们真的已经 巩固了计划
80to focus that growth on certain areas将增长集中于某些领域;
81of the European continent,欧洲大陆,
82where we think we've really just scratched the surface在那里,我们认为我们真的 刚刚刮到了表面
83in terms of partnerships,在伙伴关系方面,
84in terms of fan engagement, in terms of growth.在粉丝参与方面,在增长方面。
85So we think combine the technology aspect因此,我们认为结合技术方面
86with the international growth aspect,在国际增长方面,
87with the economics of our league,与经济学 我们联盟,
88I think you have a pretty strong sales point我觉得你的销售点很强
89for anyone who wants to come into the league.给任何想加入联盟的人
90Recognizing that there are a lot of factors认识到有许多因素
91that go into the league being successful and growing进入联赛 成功和成长
92and each team being successful and growing,每个团队都成功成长,
93I do want to ask, by our estimates,我想问,据我们估计,
94every NHL team was profitable last season,每支NHL球队上赛季都有利可图
95这可不是NBA、MLB或NFL能说的
96What do you think is enabling these franchises specifically你认为什么是授权 这些特许经营
97that we haven't touched on?我们没有接触过吗?
98Yeah, well, look, we've already touched on the main factor,是啊,听着,我们已经触及了主要因素,
99which is our system, right?这是我们的系统,对不对?
100The economic system that we have,我们的经济体系,
101the collective bargaining and agreement集体谈判和协议
102that we have with our players.与我们的玩家。
103That's a big part of how that profitability occurs.这是盈利方式的一大部分。
104But look, we have strong demand for our game.但看,我们有强烈的需求 我们的游戏。
105We played in 96% capacity during the regular season.我们正常赛季96%的比赛能力
106That's 96% capacity over more than 1,000 games.96%的容量超过1000个游戏.
107That's a lot of fans coming through,有很多粉丝来过
108but it shows the demand for live engagement with our sport.但是,它显示了对现场参与我们运动的需求。
109And at a 96% capacity rate,以96%的容量率
110that gives our clubs a little bit more ability这让我们的俱乐部更有能力
111to utilize dynamic pricing up and down利用动态定价上下
112to make sure that they're trying to maximize the ability以确保他们尽量提高能力
113to drive revenue as a result of live attendance.由于现场出勤而增加收入。
114We have 75 corporate partners,我们有75个公司合伙人
115more than 75 corporate partners at the national level,国家一级超过75个公司伙伴;
116which speaks to the desire for brands to partner这说明人们渴望品牌合作
117with the sport, to partner with the NHL.与运动,与NHL合作.
118That happens at the local level as well.在地方一级也是如此。
119So the strength of our national partnership business所以,我们国家合作事业的力量
120is amplified at the local level as well,在地方一级也扩大了,
121which again, drives revenue, drives fan engagement,它再次驱动收入, 驱动粉丝订婚,
122drives activation.驱动激活。
123It's all sort of a virtual cycle这都是虚拟循环
124that leads back to additional revenue导致增加收入
125and hopefully additional profitability.并且希望增加利润。
126We're dealing with the same local media landscape issues我们处理的是当地媒体的风景问题
127that other US sports leagues are dealing with.美国其他体育联盟正在对付的
128That's not an issue for us in Canada.这不是加拿大的问题
129The regional sports network landscape in Canada is stable.加拿大区域体育网络景观稳定.
130It's a different environment here in the United States美国的环境不一样
131for a host of reasons,出于多种原因,
132but we're helping our clubs navigate但我们帮助我们的俱乐部导航
133through that disruption.穿过那段混乱
134We're helping them navigate我们帮他们导航
135through alternative distribution methods,通过替代分配方法,
136alternative distribution strategies替代性分配战略
137that are helping them retain as much revenue as possible帮助他们保住尽可能多的收入
138in that local distribution system.在那个地方分配系统。
139And again, all those things add up to,再说一遍,所有这些事情加起来,
140by your accounts, profitability, which is great.由你的账户,盈利, 这是伟大的。
141You mentioned the Canada deals.你提到加拿大的交易。
142You've recently announced a new Canadian broadcast deal你最近宣布了一个新的加拿大广播协议
143that more than doubles the fee that you had been receiving超过你收到的费用两倍
144under the prior agreement.根据先前的协议。
145What does that signal to you?那对你意味着什么?
146The NHL and the strength of the NHL in CanadaNHL与加拿大NHL的力量
147is unprecedented.这是前所未有的。
148We drive more eyeballs, more engagement我们开更多的眼球,更多的接触
149than any other sport by far in Canada.比其他运动在加拿大到目前为止。
150We are, I think that the deal that you just referenced,我们,我认为你刚才提到的交易,
151the largest media deal in Canadian history,加拿大历史上最大的媒体交易,
152which was displaced our previous Canadian media rights deal.它取代了我们之前的加拿大媒体权利交易。
153So we've always been a ratings powerhouse in Canada我们加拿大一直都是收视强国
154and we've been compensated appropriately for that.我们得到了适当的补偿
155Hockey night in Canada,加拿大冰球之夜
156which is the Saturday night prime time game这是周六的黄金时段游戏
157on national TV in Canada.加拿大国家电视台
158Week in, week out is the highest rated program,周进,周出是评分最高的节目,
159highest viewed program in Canada, week in and week out.加拿大最受欢迎的节目 每周播出一次
160I think NHL content is something like 45我觉得NHL的内容是45
161of the top 50 watch programs in Canada加拿大前50名的观察节目
162throughout the calendar year.整个日历年。
163So Canadian fans continue to engage with the sport因此,加拿大球迷继续参与运动
164in large, large numbers.数量巨大,数量巨大。
165We've been cognizant of the fact我们已经意识到这个事实
166that we need to continue to evolve the way我们必须继续发展
167in which we present the game to Canadian fans.在其中,我们将游戏介绍给加拿大球迷.
168We need to keep up with technological changes.我们需要跟上技术的变化。
169We need to keep up with the distribution changes我们需要跟上分配的变化
170in the Canadian landscape,在加拿大风景区,
171whether it's a shift to streaming for some fans不管是对粉丝来说还是对流的转变
172who prefer to watch the game on a streaming device,他们喜欢在流媒体上观看游戏,
173whether it continues to be traditional linear television,无论它是否仍然是传统的线性电视,
174we continue to respond to the needs我们继续应对需求
175and the changes in the Canadian marketplace.加拿大市场的变化。
176But we're very proud of the fact但我们非常自豪
177that we are the number one sports brand in Canada.我们是加拿大的头号体育品牌。
178And we have to never forget that we are that我们永远不能忘记,我们是
179and continue to change and evolve the game.并不断改变和演变游戏.
180Let's talk about some of the markets.我们来谈谈一些市场
181You had Arizona relocate to Utah.你让亚利桑那州搬到犹他州
182You've had Vegas and Seattle come in as expansion teams.你让拉斯维加斯和西雅图 作为扩张队进来了
183What's been your experience with these new markets你对这些新市场有什么经验?
184or what's it done for the NHL?或者NHL有什么反应?
185I think at the time Vegas was a new member of the league.我想当时维加斯是联盟的新成员
186It was widely regarded as the most successful人们普遍认为它最成功
187professional sports expansion.专业体育扩展.
188I mean, their performance on and off the ice我的意思是,他们的表现 冰上和下
189in that first year that they were part of the league在第一年,他们是联盟的一部分
190was unprecedented in terms of their game performance,在他们的游戏表现上是前所未有的,
191their economic performance.他们的经济表现。
192Follow that up with Seattle,跟着西雅图
193which introduced a beautiful renovated building,它引入了一座美丽的建筑,
194took a historic building and made it even better抢了一座历史建筑,造得更好
195and has debuted a fantastic fan base,并初次亮相,
196a fantastic brand and have become really a part一个很棒的品牌 并成为了真正的一部分
197of that Seattle sports landscape very, very quickly.在西雅图的体育景观 非常非常非常迅速。
198And Utah has proven to be an enormously successful,犹他州已经证明是一个巨大的成功,
199a winter sport in the winter sports capital, right?冬季运动 在冬季运动首都,对不对?
200It's what better place to take in a hockey game在曲棍球比赛中最好去的地方
201than somewhere that you can also go你也可以去一个地方
202and jump on the ski slopes 10 or 15 minutes跳上滑雪坡 10或15分钟
203outside of downtown.在市中心外面
204It's like the perfect marriage.这就像完美的婚姻。
205All three of them have been enormously这三个人都是巨大的
206financially successful.财政上的成功。
207I think if you look at Vegas,我认为如果你看看拉斯维加斯
208when Vegas expanded for their expansion fee当拉斯维加斯扩张 他们的扩张费
209and the $600 millions of dollars for an expansion fee,和6亿美元的扩张费,
210I think your publication had them listed我想你的刊物上写了
211at about $2 billion most recently.最近大约20亿美元。
212So by any financial measurement,因此,通过任何财务衡量,
213that's a great return over a fairly short period of time.这是一个很大的回报 在相当短的时间内。
214So they've been able to benefit所以他们可以受益
215from that acceleration of growth.从增长的加速。
216So we're very happy with all three,所以我们对三个都很开心
217the fan bases and all three of those markets are fantastic.粉丝基地和这三个市场都很棒
218They're rabid hockey fans.他们是狂野曲棍球迷。
219Look, we were the first professional sports league看,我们是第一个职业体育联赛
220to approve an expansion into Las Vegas批准扩建拉斯维加斯
221and you've seen what's happened since.你从那时起就知道发生了什么了
222It's become almost like a sports Mecca in some ways从某些方面来说,这几乎就像麦加的运动
223with the rapid acceleration of new franchises迅速加速新的特许经营权
224in that market.在市场上。
225As you field interest随你
226from other potential expansion markets,从其他潜在的扩展市场,
227what do you look for in these candidates to say yes,你在找什么在这些候选人 说是,
228to make it the next expansion city?让它成为下一个扩张城市?
229Yeah, look, I think the commissioner,是的,你看,我认为专员,
230our deputy commissioner,我们的副专员,
231when they run these processes,当他们运行这些进程时,
232they always look for a strong ownership group.他们总是寻找一个强大的所有权集团。
233I mean, more than anything else,我的意思是,比其他任何东西,
234it needs to be a strong ownership group它需要一个强大的所有权集团
235committed to the city, well-capitalized ownership group.致力于城市,资本充裕的所有权集团.
236They have to have a facility that makes sense他们必须有一个有道理的设施
237for our game today,今天的比赛
238for the way in which our game today is monetized,因为今天我们的游戏是货币化的
239for the way in which our game today is played今天我们玩游戏的方式
240and for what our fans expect in a modern building,对于我们的粉丝们在现代建筑中的期望,
241in a modern facility.在现代设施。
242And I think the three most recent examples that you cite,我认为你最近举的三个例子
243check those boxes,检查那些盒子,
244and Utah is undergoing a very extensive renovation犹他州正在大修
245to the Delta Center致三角洲中心
246to make that a world-class hockey venue,使之成为世界级的曲棍球场地,
247which is exciting for that market.这对市场来说是令人兴奋的。
248Obviously, the market itself,显然,市场本身,
249does the market make sense in the context of the league在联赛中市场是否合理
250and the footprint of the league?联盟的足迹呢?
251Will it help make the league a stronger league?它能帮助使联赛成为一个更强大的联赛吗?
252Will it help to serve a fan base能为粉丝服务吗?
253that we expect will be a strong hockey fan base?我们期待成为一个强大的冰球迷基地?
254And does it make sense for the broadcasting广播有道理吗?
255and other business footprints其他商业足迹
256that we need to grow over the course of the league?在联赛中我们需要成长?
257So look at all three of those things in combination,看看这三样东西
258and I think you get a pretty good sense我觉得你很明白
259as to what we're looking for.至于我们要找的是什么
260You mentioned the Olympics being a driver of interest.你提到奥运会是引起兴趣的动力。
261I'd be remiss not to ask you我不该问你的
262about some of the fictional franchises关于一些虚构的特许权
263that might be opening up new fan bases.这可能是打开新的粉丝基地。
264There's one big one,有一个大的,
265but there's also the Bear Town series by Frederick Bachman.但还有弗雷德里克·巴赫曼的"熊城"系列.
266There are a few other, there's more than one.另有数人,有余人.
267There's one that's bubbled to the top.有一气泡至顶.
268But how have you experienced that from your seat,但你是怎么从座位上感受到的
269and are these fictional hockey stories这些是虚构的曲棍球故事
270actually bringing new fans真正带来新的粉丝
271and new revenue opportunities to the NHL?和新的收入机会 NHL?
272No, I think in short answer, yes.不,我想简短的回答,是的。
273Heated rivalry or any other of the fictional serieses热竞或虚构系列中的任何其他
274that you're referring to,你说的
275they've certainly opened up interest in our game,他们肯定对我们的游戏产生了兴趣
276interest in our sport,对我们的运动感兴趣
277{\fn黑体\fs20\shad2\2aH82\3aH20\4aH33\fscx95\3cH592001\be1}其他的粉丝们
278would not have found our game,不会找到我们的游戏,
279perhaps not would have found our clubs.也许找不到我们的俱乐部
280And we welcome that.我们对此表示欢迎。
281It's been a fun phenomenon to watch看这个真是有趣
282sort of the fan engagement, the fan metrics,像是粉丝的订婚 粉丝的衡量标准
283the viewership numbers increase观众人数增加
284over the second half of our regular season.在下半个常规赛季。
285I think a lot of that was due to the Olympics,我想很多都是因为奥运会
286and I think a lot of that was due to some of the phenomenon我认为很多事情 是由于一些现象
287that we saw around these series, which is great, right?我们看到这些系列, 这是伟大的,对不对?
288We welcome that.我们对此表示欢迎。
289Our clubs have engaged in certain theme nights我们的俱乐部在主题之夜
290around those fictional series,围绕那些虚构的系列,
291playing off some of the various brands,玩出一些各种品牌,
292some of the various storylines, et cetera,一些不同的故事情节等等,
293that have come up from it.已经从它。
294So we think it's been great.所以,我们认为这是伟大的。
295We've certainly been welcoming of new fans我们当然欢迎新的粉丝
296who have come into the NHL family他们来到NHL家族
297who have become fans of certain clubs成为某些俱乐部的粉丝
298or fans of the sport or fans of players或体育爱好者或球迷
299because of the series.因为系列。
300And we look forward to more of it going forward.我们期待着有更多的进展。
301Speaking of going forward, what has you most excited?说到前进,你最兴奋的是什么?
302What's next for the NHL?NHL的下一个是什么?
303Yeah, I mean, look, we're playing right now是啊,我的意思是,你看,我们正在玩
304to call it 70% growth year over year年增长率为70%
305in our playoff ratings.在我们的季后赛收视率。
306Our first round of the playoffs was up sort of 65-ish, 70%,我们的第一轮季后赛是65分左右 70%
307and we're seeing that same momentum我们看到了同样的动力
308continue into our second rounds.继续进入我们的第二轮。
309And we're achieving that without perhaps而我们正实现这一点 也许没有
310what some would call large markets.人们会称之为大市场。
311We had some large markets我们有一些大市场
312who were not part of the postseason tournament,他们不是赛季后赛的一部分,
313not part of the playoffs,不是季后赛的一部分,
314and we're still seeing 70% growth in our ratings.我们的收视率还提高了70%
315So I think that speaks to the potential growth所以我认为这说明 潜在的增长
316that we still have in front of us.我们仍然在眼前。
317We're excited about our continued slate我们很兴奋,我们继续
318of tent pole outdoor games.在户外玩帐篷杆游戏
319We just came off a season我们刚从赛季出来
320where we just played two outdoor games in Florida.我们刚在佛罗里达打过两场户外比赛
321Look back 10, 20 years, would you ever have envisioned回首过去10,20年,你会想到
322we'd played two outdoor games to sold out audiences我们玩过两场户外游戏 卖掉观众
323in a football stadium and a baseball stadium in Florida在佛罗里达州的足球场和棒球场
324in the middle of our season?在我们的季中?
325The Panthers, the Lightning黑豹,闪电
326have grown those fan bases enormously这些粉丝已经成长了
327since they've joined the league.因为他们已经加入了联盟。
328We've seen growth in youth hockey participation我们的青春曲棍球参与率有了提高
329skyrocket in Florida.佛罗里达的暴风雨
330Advances in technology, advances in our ice technology科技进步,冰科技进步.
331to allow us to feel comfortable to play outdoor games来让我们在户外玩游戏时感到舒服
332in those environments have been significant over the years.多年来,在这些环境中,情况十分严重。
333We've played 45 outdoor games我们打了45场户外比赛
334and we learn something new every time we play an outdoor game.我们每次玩户外游戏 都会学到新东西
335So the cumulative learning of those 45 years所以45年的累积学习
336allows us to play games in locations where otherwise允许我们在其它地点玩游戏
337when we first started these outdoor games当我们开始这些户外游戏时
338in Buffalo all those years ago,这些年前在水牛城
339we never would have imagined that that would be possible.我们从没想过会这样
340So I think the advances in our fan base所以,我认为我们粉丝基地的进步
341or advances in our ambition或者我们的雄心进军
342to play those types of outdoor games,玩这些类型的户外游戏,
343the response that we're seeing from our fans粉丝们的反应
344that we're seeing in the playoff ratings,我们在季后赛收视率上看到
345I think it all leads to great days ahead.我认为这一切会导致未来的美好日子。
346And I'm gonna end where we began我会结束我们开始的地方
347on Forbes' valuation of NHL teams.关于福布斯对NHL团队的估价.
348We're undervalued.我们被低估了。
349You're undervalued.你被低估价值了。
350So if the average value of NHL teams by our accounting因此,如果NHL团队的平均价值 通过我们的会计
351is 2.2 billion for the 2025 list,2025年名单上的22亿,
352what should that number be for the 2026 list?2026年名单的号码是多少?
353Significantly more, significantly more.更显著,更显著。
354We will continue to tell our story我们会继续讲述我们的故事
355about our growth potential, about our economics,关于我们的增长潜力, 关于我们的经济,
356about our system to your publication,关于我们的系统到你的出版,
357to the world writ large.给世界写大字
358We've seen precedent transactions happen,我们已经看到先例交易发生,
359whether it's control stakes or minority stakes无论是控制股份还是少数股份
360in our clubs that justify even higher numbers在我们的俱乐部里 证明数量更高
361than what we've seen recently.比我们最近看到的还要多
362So we think it should be significantly higher.因此,我们认为,应该提高很多。
363I won't say a number.我不会说一个号码。
364Fair enough, Steve.没错,史蒂夫。
365Thank you so much for sitting down with us.非常感谢你和我们坐在一起
366My pleasure, thanks.我很荣幸,谢谢。
367Tingo.丁果(原变种).
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