堪萨斯辩论之夜马歇尔汉密尔顿正面交锋 | 2026.10.

堪萨斯辩论之夜马歇尔汉密尔顿正面交锋 | 2026.10.22 | 美剧级别字幕

发布于 2026-10-22 · 时长 57:31

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时间	英文	中文
0:01	It's debate night in Kansas, a Republican stronghold, an unexpected battleground, a Senate race few expected to be this close.	这是在堪萨斯州的辩论之夜共和党的据点出乎意料的战场参议院的比赛
0:12	Republican Senator Roger Marshall.	共和党参议员罗杰·马歇尔.
0:14	The first thing I'm going to do is make a pledge is I will not touch anyone's Medicare or Social Security who's on it now.	我要做的第一件事是做出保证我不会碰任何人的医疗保险或社会保障谁现在在其中。
0:21	Democrat Adam Hamilton.	民主党人亚当·汉密尔顿.
0:23	I will work across the aisle.	我会工作过道。
0:25	I'm a moderate, independent-minded Democrat.	我是一个温和,独立思想的民主党人.
0:27	Two different paths, two different visions, one seat in the United States Senate.	两条不同的路,两条不同的愿景,一个席位在美国参议院.
0:34	Tonight, they face each other and the questions that matter most to you.	今晚,他们面对彼此和对你最重要的问题。
0:39	How can you bring people together?	你怎么能把人们聚集在一起?
0:42	Why is rent so high?	为什么房租这么高?

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序号	英文	中文
1	It's debate night in Kansas, a Republican stronghold, an unexpected battleground, a Senate race few expected to be this close.	这是在堪萨斯州的辩论之夜共和党的据点出乎意料的战场参议院的比赛
2	Republican Senator Roger Marshall.	共和党参议员罗杰·马歇尔.
3	The first thing I'm going to do is make a pledge is I will not touch anyone's Medicare or Social Security who's on it now.	我要做的第一件事是做出保证我不会碰任何人的医疗保险或社会保障谁现在在其中。
4	Democrat Adam Hamilton.	民主党人亚当·汉密尔顿.
5	I will work across the aisle.	我会工作过道。
6	I'm a moderate, independent-minded Democrat.	我是一个温和,独立思想的民主党人.
7	Two different paths, two different visions, one seat in the United States Senate.	两条不同的路,两条不同的愿景,一个席位在美国参议院.
8	Tonight, they face each other and the questions that matter most to you.	今晚,他们面对彼此和对你最重要的问题。
9	How can you bring people together?	你怎么能把人们聚集在一起?
10	Why is rent so high?	为什么房租这么高?
11	Why is food so high?	为什么食物这么高?
12	Your family, your finances, your future.	你的家人,你的财务,你的未来。
13	What will they do and how will they deliver?	他们将做什么和如何交付?
14	At the end of the day, we need a strong economy.	最终我们需要强大的经济.
15	The biggest issue for Kansas is the war and tariffs.	堪萨斯州最大的问题是战争和关税.
16	And the stakes reach beyond Kansas.	赌注会超越堪萨斯州
17	Your vote could help decide who controls the Senate and who sets the agenda in Washington.	你的投票可以帮助决定谁控制参议院,谁在华盛顿制定议程.
18	Tonight, they make their case.	今晚,他们为自己辩护。
19	You decide who earns your trust.	你决定谁赢得你的信任。
20	Hello and welcome to debate night in Kansas.	欢迎光临堪萨斯州的辩论之夜
21	We are asking the questions of the U.S. Senate candidates tonight.	我们今晚要问美国参议院候选人的问题
22	I'm John Holden.	我是约翰・霍尔登。
23	I'll be your moderator and we welcome you in from Kansas City	我是主持人欢迎你从堪萨斯城来
24	with a reminder that this debate is being broadcast live on Nextar stations across the state	提醒大家,这场辩论正在全州Nextar电台现场直播。
25	from the Kansas City Metro to Topeka to Southeast Kansas, Wichita, and Western Kansas.	从堪萨斯城地铁到托佩卡到东南堪萨斯州,威奇塔州和西堪萨斯州.
26	Here are tonight's rules before we get started.	这是今晚的规则在我们开始之前。
27	Each candidate will have 60 seconds to answer a question.	每个候选人将有60秒时间回答一个问题.
28	Follow-ups get 30 seconds but allow for up to 30 seconds for rebuttals.	后续时间为30秒,但可长达30秒进行反驳。
29	Candidates, when your time is up, you'll hear this bell.	候选人们等时间到了你们就会听到铃声
30	You will also each get 30 seconds for a closing statement.	你们每人还有30秒的闭幕词。
31	Mr. Hamilton, Mr. Marshall, thanks for being with us tonight.	汉密尔顿先生,马歇尔先生,谢谢你今晚和我们在一起。
32	We really appreciate it.	我们真的很感激
33	A very important conversation ahead tonight.	今晚有个很重要的谈话
34	We're going to get to some specific issues but let's begin with those attack ads we've all been subjected to	我们要谈一些具体问题但首先要谈那些攻击性广告
35	and we're going to see if we, through your participation, can help us get to what's true.	我们会通过你的参与帮助我们找到真相
36	Mr. Marshall, you're accused of suing patients.	马歇尔先生你被指控起诉病人
37	Mr. Hamilton, your church, once again, coming under some scrutiny for accusations of pedophile	汉密尔顿先生,你的教堂, 再次受到一些审查指控恋童癖
38	at one of your summer camps.	在一个夏令营。
39	Mr. Marshall, by virtue of a card draw, you'll get the first question.	Marshall先生,凭着一张牌,你会得到第一个问题。
40	And it begins with that New York Times review of court records	从《纽约时报》审查法庭记录开始
41	and it found that you and your medical practice sued more than 700 patients	发现你和你的医生起诉了700多名病人
42	over unpaid bills with annual interest charges of 18 percent.	年利率为18%的未付账单。
43	Missed court dates because of the debt led to some arrests.	由于债台高筑,错过了庭审日期,导致一些人被捕。
44	Now, you've talked a lot about the free care that you, your practice and hospital, provided in Great Bend	现在,你已经谈论了很多关于免费护理你,你的实践和医院, 在大本营
45	but at the Kansas State Fair, you also defended those collections.	但是在堪萨斯州博览会上你也为那些收藏作辩护
46	Yeah.	对
47	Hang on.	坚持住。
48	Every year, we gave away three to four million dollars of charity.	每年我们捐出三到四百万的慈善资金
49	But we also had a business.	但我们也有生意
50	We had 300 employees.	我们有300名员工。
51	We had a mortgage payment.	我们付了抵押贷款
52	We had electric.	我们有电。
53	So we had, just like every other business,	因此,我们有, 就像其他的生意,
54	we had to, the common business practice, at the end of the day, turned some people to collections as well.	我们不得不, 常见的商业做法, 在一天结束时, 也把一些人变成收藏品。
55	That would be true for every hospital and every doctor.	每个医院和每个医生都是这样。
56	But again, if this is only one out of five people, we gave free care to as well.	但是,如果这只有五分之一的人,我们也免费照顾。
57	Now, whatever that common business practice was, these were your patients.	现在,不管那些常见的商业做法是什么, 这些是你的病人。
58	What responsibility do you personally take for how those debts were collected?	你个人对这些债务的征收负有什么责任?
59	You have 60 seconds.	你有60秒时间。
60	Yeah, John, I think that this couldn't be further than from the truth.	是的,约翰,我认为这不可能比真相更远。
61	I think we need to remind everybody that control of the Senate goes through Kansas.	我想我们要提醒大家参议院的控制权要通过堪萨斯州
62	And that's why this is so important.	这就是为什么这个很重要。
63	So my opponent is going to say anything he can to lie, to get into that office and give control to Chuck Schumer.	所以我的对手会说出任何他能说谎的话进入那个办公室控制查克·舒默
64	So these were blatant lies.	所以这些是公然的谎言。
65	Look, I went to Great Bend, Kansas because I wanted to take care of patients.	我去堪萨斯州大本营是因为我想照顾病人
66	It was a mission field.	这是一个任务领域。
67	One out of five patients we took care of received free care.	我们照顾的病人中,有五分之一是免费的。
68	Millions of dollars of free care.	数百万元免费护理.
69	Nothing can be further from the truth.	没有什么比事实更进一步了。
70	Look, the Kansas Bill of Rights clearly says you cannot be arrested or thrown in jail because of indebtedness.	堪萨斯州民权法案明确规定你不能因为欠债而被逮捕或监禁
71	So this particular patient actually had legal issues in three different counties.	因此,这个特殊的病人实际上有三个不同的县有法律问题。
72	She had missed 16 court dates.	她错过了16个开庭日期。
73	And I'm sorry about that.	对不起
74	We did everything possible to keep them from going to collections.	我们尽了一切可能阻止他们去收藏。
75	It was a very, very rare situation.	这是一个非常,非常罕见的情况。
76	But once it was turned over, it was the same process that KU Med Center would do via Christie and Wichita.	但一旦被翻转,KU Med Center也会通过克里斯蒂和维奇塔完成同样的过程.
77	Once we sent them to collections, it was out of our hands.	一旦我们把它们送到收藏馆,它就在我们手中。
78	But we did everything possible to take good care of people.	但我们尽了一切可能照顾好人
79	Even surrounding cities sent people to us by the bus slope because they knew I would take care of them for free.	甚至周围的城市都派人到巴士坡边来因为他们知道我会免费照顾他们
80	Let me ask a quick follow-up there.	让我问一下情况。
81	It really goes back to my original question.	这真的回到我最初的问题。
82	Did you put limits on your lawyers on what they could do in terms of collecting?	你是否限制你的律师他们可以做什么收集?
83	And did you ever intervene to stop a collection?	你曾干预阻止收藏吗?
84	Thirty seconds.	30秒钟。
85	Yeah.	对
86	You know, I think there were times when the collections people would come to me and say, hey, we think you should do something this one.	你知道,我想有的时候人们会来找我说, 嘿,我们觉得你应该做点什么。
87	But we already wrote off many, many bills as well.	但我们已经注销了很多,许多账单。
88	Generally speaking, once it was turned over collections, it was done.	一般说来,一旦交给收藏,就完成了.
89	And again, that's the same practice of KU Med Center, of St. Luke's, of via Christie as well.	同样,KU医疗中心、圣卢克医院、克里斯蒂医院也是这样。
90	We did the same, followed the same procedures as every other doctor.	我们做了同样的事情,遵循了与其他医生相同的程序。
91	This was such a small fraction of people that ever went.	这是这么一小部分人曾经去。
92	This is such a gross mischaracterization of the compassion and love and care that the other doctors and the nurses I gave.	这是对我给予的其他医生和护士的同情、爱和关怀的如此严重的错误描述。
93	Patient after patient, we gave free care to, we wrote off bills.	病人之后,我们免费照顾, 我们注销账单。
94	All they had to do is in some way stay in communication with our office and they would have never been sent to collections.	他们必须做的是在某种程度上保持与我们办公室的沟通他们永远不会被送往收藏。
95	Thank you, sir.	谢谢你,先生。
96	Your turn, Mr. Hamilton, to address one of the attack ads that's leveled at you.	轮到你了,汉密尔顿先生来报道一个针对你的攻击广告
97	Parents entrusted your church to take care of their children.	父母委托你的教会照顾孩子
98	In 2005, two boys reported inappropriate touching at your church camp.	2005年,两个男孩报告说,在你的教堂营地接触不当。
99	Now, you said the church investigated internally that the findings were inconclusive and authorities were not contacted.	你说教会内部调查了调查结果没有定论当局也没有联系
100	You recently told CNN this.	你最近告诉CNN这个。
101	It's you've got it differently and that's absolutely like we should have called the police immediately.	这是你得到了不同的, 这绝对像我们应该立即报警。
102	But that was not our policies 21 years ago.	但21年前我们的政策并非如此。
103	Yet that same volunteer was allowed to return as a camp leader the following year.	然而,该志愿人员在次年被允许作为营地领导人返回。
104	More allegations surfaced against him.	对他提出了更多的指控。
105	This time, of course, the church did contact the authorities.	这一次,当然,教会确实联系了当局.
106	So my question for you is, obviously, it's your responsibility to take care of these kids.	我的问题是,很明显,照顾这些孩子是你的责任。
107	Why not override that policy back in 2005 when you had to know that police or law enforcement are better at investigating these kinds of things than staff?	在2005年你必须知道警察或执法部门比工作人员更能调查这类事情时,为什么不推翻这项政策呢?
108	You have 60 seconds.	你有60秒时间。
109	That's a great question.	问曰.
110	And the reality is that we did change our policy after that.	而现实是,我们后来确实改变了政策。
111	So this was very important.	所以这是非常重要的。
112	We made sure that the police found out later.	我们确保警察后来发现。
113	When they did, they investigated.	当他们这样做,他们调查。
114	They found the same thing.	他们发现了同样的东西。
115	It was inconclusive.	没有结果。
116	There was uncertainty.	存在着不确定性。
117	And as a result of that, they refused to press charges as well.	因此,他们也拒绝提出指控。
118	I will tell you that ultimately we helped get this man put behind bars.	我会告诉你,最终我们帮助把这个人关进监狱。
119	And the policies that we developed are used by 10,000 churches across America.	我们制定的政策被美国一万个教堂所使用。
120	When the Kansas City Star investigated what Roger Marshall said about this, the Kansas City Star said his allegations are false and misleading.	当"堪萨斯城之星"调查罗杰·马歇尔对此所说的话时,"堪萨斯城之星"说他的指控是虚假和误导的.
121	Every journalist who looked into this said the same thing.	每一个记者都这么说
122	Let me follow up with this question.	让我继续回答这个问题。
123	Obviously, back in 2005, you had that policy.	很明显,在2005年,你有这种政策。
124	My question is, what was your role in handling that part of the investigation?	我的问题是你在调查中扮演什么角色?
125	And did you sign off on this man going back to the camp in 2006?	你在2006年签下这个回营地的人了吗?
126	30 seconds.	30秒钟。
127	That's a great question.	问曰.
128	So first of all, others investigated.	因此,首先,其他人调查。
129	I was actually preaching that weekend at Church of the Resurrection.	我其实是那个周末在复活教堂传教的
130	And I did not sign off on him going back.	我也没签他回去的事
131	I should have checked to make sure that he wasn't going back.	我本该查查他是否不会回去的
132	That was a mistake on my part.	我错了
133	But I will tell you, when he was investigated the next year, we forbade him from working with youth or children anymore.	但我会告诉你,当他明年被调查时,我们禁止他再与青年或儿童打交道。
134	He left our church angry and upset.	他让我们的教堂生气和不安
135	And again, we played a critical role several years later in getting him arrested and convicted.	几年后,我们再次在逮捕和定罪方面发挥了关键作用。
136	Let's pick up on an issue now that's affordability and particularly the high cost of fuel.	让我们开始讨论一个问题, 即价格可以承受, 特别是高成本的燃料。
137	Mr. Hamilton, you'll start us off with this round.	汉密尔顿先生,你先开始这轮比赛
138	You want to suspend, in fact, we've seen a commercial of you suggesting we suspend the gas and diesel federal fuels tax.	你想暂停,事实上,我们已经看到一个广告你建议我们暂停煤气和柴油联邦税。
139	Critics will say that until the war ends, as I recall, until the Iran war ends, critics will say that's fine.	批评者会说,直到战争结束,我记得,直到伊朗战争结束,批评者会说这很好.
140	But that feeds the highway trust fund with revenue that could impact Kansas road projects, public transportation.	但是,这为高速公路信托基金提供了收入,这些收入可能影响堪萨斯公路项目、公共交通。
141	So my question, how would you replace that revenue?	所以,我的问题,你会如何取代收入?
142	And you have 60 seconds.	还有60秒
143	It's a great question.	问曰.
144	So presuming that I win and I think we will win, the aim is to end the war as quickly as possible.	所以假设我赢了,我想我们会赢, 目的是尽快结束战争。
145	This is really a short term solution.	这确实是一个短期的解决办法。
146	It saves 30 cents a gallon for farmers who are paying six dollars and 40 cents a gallon for diesel fuel.	它为农民节省了每加仑30美分,他们支付6美元,每加仑40美分柴油.
147	We're trying to find some immediate relief, but it's not a long term solution.	我们试图找到一些即时的解脱,但这不是长期的解决办法.
148	It's a very short term stopgap.	这是一个非常短期的权宜之计.
149	And my hope is that in January, we're going to bring a bill to really force the president to bring this war to a conclusion very quickly.	我希望,在1月份,我们将提出法案, 迫使总统迅速结束这场战争。
150	Kansans need that.	坎桑斯需要这样
151	Americans need that.	美国人需要这个
152	They're crying out for it.	他们为此大喊大叫.
153	And again, Roger Marshall has failed to support ending the war.	而罗杰·马歇尔再次未能支持结束战争.
154	Let's.	让我们。
155	Mr. Marshall, on that note, I'll give you up to 30 seconds to respond on failing to end the war.	马歇尔先生,在这点上,我将给你30秒对于未能结束战争的反应。
156	That comment there.	这段评论。
157	Look, look, I hate war.	听着我讨厌战争
158	I hate war is only a soldier who lived it.	我讨厌战争,只有士兵才能生存
159	I can.	我当然可以
160	Look, that's what President Eisenhower said.	听着艾森豪威尔总统就是这么说的
161	I want this war to be over as badly as anybody does in America.	我希望这场战争能像美国那样结束
162	Look, I served.	你看,我服务。
163	My brother served.	我哥哥已经服役了
164	My dad served.	我爸爸服过役
165	My son is serving.	我的儿子在服务。
166	I want this war to be over just as soon as possible.	我希望这场战争尽快结束
167	But we cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon.	但我们不能让伊朗拥有核武器。
168	And I don't think any of the listeners out there want to have a nuclear weapon either.	我也不认为外面的听众想要核武器
169	This is why we can't have a weak Adam Hamilton with the weak Democrat policy who only gives us war through weakness as opposed to peace through strength.	这就是为什么我们不能有一个软弱的亚当·汉密尔顿与软弱的民主党政策,他们只是通过软弱来给予我们战争,而不是通过力量来换取和平.
170	Let's get back to the main question for you.	复为汝说正法.
171	And this is what you said to the Kansas City Star.	这就是你对堪萨斯城之星说的
172	You said you were sorry fuel prices were rising, but added your national security.	你说你很抱歉燃料价格上涨但又增加了国家安全
173	Yes, is even more important than your pocketbook.	对,比你的皮夹更重要
174	You also said you hoped the war would last weeks, not months.	你还说你希望战争能持续几周不是几个月
175	Well, here we are six months later.	好了,我们在这里六个月后。
176	The war is still very much underway.	战争还在继续
177	Have you changed your position on this?	你改变立场了吗?
178	Would you now support a moratorium on the federal fuels, gas and diesel tax?	你现在会支持暂停联邦燃料、天然气和柴油税吗?
179	And if so, for how long?	如果是这样,还要多久?
180	You have 60 seconds.	你有60秒时间。
181	Well, look, I think that some type of a moratorium on the diesel tax is a short term solution.	我觉得暂停柴油税是短期的解决办法
182	I'm not opposed to it.	我不反对它。
183	But let's think about what the real problem here is.	但让我们想想真正的问题是什么
184	The real problem with the cost of diesel in particular is number one is the Ukraine War.	柴油成本的真正问题是乌克兰战争。
185	And because of that, diesel production has gone down.	因此,柴油产量下降。
186	But beyond that, why are we dependent upon diesel imports?	但除此之外,我们为什么要依赖柴油进口?
187	It's because of the Green New Deal policy that my opponent supports.	正是因为绿色新政政策,我的对手才支持.
188	他的政策和Chuck Schumer完全一致
189	So if I would lose this seat, Adam Hamilton would give control of the Senate to Chuck Schumer, who would go back to his Green New Deal.	所以如果我失去这个席位,亚当·汉密尔顿会把参议院的控制权交给查克·舒默,他将回到他的绿色新政.
190	Look, we've not had a new refinery built since 1978.	你看,我们没有新建炼油厂自1978年。
191	We've lost 90 refineries since 1990.	自1990年以来,我们损失了90个炼油厂。
192	When I was born in El Dorado, we had three refineries.	我出生在埃尔多拉多的时候我们有三个炼油厂
193	That's the problem right now, is the refining capacity.	现在的问题是炼油能力。
194	Because of overregulation created by the Green New Deal and his attacks on American energy, on American agriculture,	因为绿色新政带来的过度监管以及他对美国能源,美国农业的攻击,
195	diesel prices will never come down.	柴油价格永远不会下跌。
196	But you know, when this war is over with, that these diesel prices are going to come down along with the gasoline prices, as long as Republicans have control.	但你知道,当这场战争结束, 这些柴油价格会随着汽油价格而下降, 只要共和党人有控制权。
197	Mr. Hamilton, do you support the Green New Deal?	汉密尔顿先生,你支持绿色新政吗?
198	I'll give you 30 seconds to respond.	我给你30秒回应
199	No, I don't support the Green New Deal.	不,我不支持绿色新政。
200	Parts of it, yes.	是的,这是一部分。
201	But I just want to say, see, he just said that the war in Iran is not the problem.	但我只想说,他刚才说,伊朗的战争不是问题所在。
202	The war in Ukraine is a problem.	乌克兰战争是一个问题.
203	The Ukrainians trying to defend themselves are the reason why we have record diesel prices.	乌克兰人试图自卫,这是我们创纪录的柴油价格的原因。
204	Nobody believes that.	没人相信
205	This happened in response to the war in Iran that didn't need to happen, was not a necessary war.	这是针对伊朗战争发生的,而这场战争并不需要发生,并不是必要的战争.
206	And this is why the prices went to record highs.	这就是为什么价格创下最高纪录。
207	And Roger Marshall supported that.	罗杰·马歇尔支持这一点。
208	And I support the Ukrainians being able to defend themselves.	我支持乌克兰人能够自卫。
209	And this is something that Roger Marshall has waffled on.	这是罗杰·马歇尔所爱的东西
210	It's not OK.	这不好。
211	We stand by the Ukrainians, but that's not the reason why we have record diesel prices.	我们站在乌克兰人一边,但这不是我们创纪录的柴油价格的原因.
212	Let me ask you this, a follow-up to both of you.	让我问你们这是你们两人的续篇
213	Mr. Hamilton, do you support the president's agreement with Russia to buy diesel fuel?	汉密尔顿先生,你支持总统与俄罗斯签订的购买柴油的协议吗?
214	No, it's a disaster.	不,这是一场灾难。
215	Up to 30 seconds.	长达30秒.
216	Yeah, it's a disaster.	是啊,这是一个灾难。
217	Why in the world would we agree to do this with Russia?	为什么我们同意和俄罗斯一起这样做?
218	And many Republicans are saying the same thing.	许多共和党人也这么说.
219	So this is selling out our allies, the Ukrainians, and this is not OK.	所以这是出卖我们的盟友,乌克兰人, 这可不行。
220	We should not be doing this.	我们不应该这样做。
221	Mr. Marshall, same question to you.	马歇尔先生,你也是
222	Do you support the deal with Russia to buy diesel fuel to bring prices down in this country?	你是否支持与俄罗斯的交易,购买柴油来降低这个国家的价格?
223	Yeah, this is why we can't have a senator like this who's going to jump to conclusions.	是啊,这就是为什么我们不能有参议员这样的谁要去跳跃的结论。
224	Look, it doesn't sound like a great idea to me, but already today, now we're seeing folks back at the bargaining table.	听着,对我来说这听起来不是个好主意, 但是今天,我们已经看到人们回到谈判桌上。
225	If this brings Russia to the bargaining table and it ends the war, then I'm all for it right now.	如果这把俄国带到谈判桌旁,结束战争,那么我现在就支持了.
226	Why is Europe continuing to buy natural gas from Europe?	欧洲为何继续从欧洲购买天然气?
227	Why do we have to have 100,000 troops in Europe to protect them?	为什么我们在欧洲必须有10万军队来保护他们?
228	Look, I'm an American first person.	我是美国第一人
229	I believe in peace through strength.	我相信通过力量实现和平。
230	I believe in secure borders, a strong military, and lower taxes.	我相信安全的边界强大的军队和较低的税收
231	Every Senate Democrat has voted against every one of those.	每个参议院民主党都投票反对其中的每一个.
232	They voted against secure borders, against military funding, and against lowering your taxes.	他们投票反对安全的边界,反对军事资助,反对降低你的税收.
233	And you would stand right there beside Chuck Schumer, give him control of the Senate, and go back to those same policies that got us here.	你会站在恰克·舒默旁边给他参议院的控制权回到那些带我们来这里的政策
234	Mr. Hamilton, 15 seconds.	汉密尔顿先生,15秒。
235	Yeah, absolutely.	当然
236	So what you said just now is you're going to sell out our friends in Ukraine.	所以你刚才说的就是你要出卖我们在乌克兰的朋友
237	That's not OK.	这不好。
238	And by the way, our red wheat in Kansas came from Ukraine from people who immigrated here.	顺便说一句,我们在堪萨斯州的红麦来自乌克兰,来自移民到这里的人.
239	You're going to sell out Ukraine.	你要卖掉乌克兰
240	That's just not OK.	这可不好
241	It's indecent.	下贱.
242	But let's continue to discuss.	但是,让我们继续讨论。
243	Can I respond to that?	我能回答吗?
244	No, let's move on to the next question.	不,让我们继续下一个问题。
245	And it's sort of connected.	和它有点连接。
246	Many do blame high fuel prices on the war with Iran.	许多人将高油价归咎于与伊朗的战争。
247	Mr. Marshall, you voted no three times to the War Powers Resolution.	马歇尔先生,你没有投票三次对战争权力决议。
248	But as the war with Iran is drug on, obviously, higher fuel prices, other costs have gone up.	但显然,由于与伊朗的战争正在导致燃料价格上涨,其他成本上升。
249	And now Iranian proxies are taking aim at Saudi Arabia and other Middle Eastern countries.	现在伊朗的代理人正在瞄准沙特阿拉伯和其他中东国家。
250	Now, you've agreed with the president that Iran cannot have nuclear weapons.	现在,你同意总统的观点,伊朗不能拥有核武器。
251	So my question to you is, does that mean this war goes on indefinitely?	我问你,这是否意味着这场战争无限期地持续?
252	Of course, I want this war to be over as soon as anybody.	当然我希望这场战争能尽快结束
253	I want to talk about national security policy for a second.	我想谈一下国家安全政策
254	I'm a Dwight Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, peace through strength guy, where the Democrats are.	我是德怀特·艾森豪威尔罗纳德·里根通过强者和平民主党人在哪里
255	They give us war through weakness.	他们通过软弱给我们带来战争。
256	How did Obama respond to Iran?	奥巴马如何回应伊朗?
257	This is the guy here, his big idol.	这个人就是他的偶像
258	His idol, Barack Hussein Obama, said $1.7 billion in pallets to Iran.	他的偶像巴拉克·侯赛因·奥巴马向伊朗表示17亿美元的货盘.
259	Iran would have had a nuclear weapon by now if we would have used his policies today as well.	如果我们今天也采用他的政策,伊朗早就拥有核武器了。
260	And then what does Joe Biden do when it comes to national security?	然后乔·拜登在国家安全方面做什么?
261	He's so weak when we leave Afghanistan, it opens the door for Putin to invade Ukraine.	我们离开阿富汗时他是如此软弱,这为普京入侵乌克兰打开了大门.
262	They give us war through weakness.	他们通过软弱给我们带来战争。
263	That's what this is all about.	即是此义.
264	Look, as your United States senator, I'm always going to look for the safety of your family first.	听着,作为你的美国参议员, 我总是会首先寻找你家庭的安全。
265	Look, it was just two years ago that we had wide open borders, millions of people coming across.	两年前,我们有很宽的边界, 数百万人穿过。
266	Look what's happening in France right now.	看看现在法国发生了什么
267	Remember what President Reagan said, that freedom is only a generation away from extinction.	记住里根总统所说的,自由只是一代人远离灭绝.
268	His open border policies that he developed with Barack Obama will lead us to that same thing.	他与巴拉克·奥巴马共同制定的开放边界政策将引导我们找到同样的东西。
269	He worked on immigration policy, amnesty policy with Barack Obama.	他与巴拉克·奥巴马合作制定移民政策,大赦政策.
270	If he gets control of this seat, he'll give control to the US Senate, to Schumer,	如果他控制了这个席位他会把控制权交给美国参议院和舒默
271	which will create open borders and is a threat to our republic.	将建立开放的边界,威胁我们的共和国。
272	Thank you, sir.	谢谢你,先生。
273	Mr. Hamilton, before we get to that question, I'll give you 30 seconds to respond.	汉密尔顿先生在我们问到这个问题之前我给你30秒时间回答
274	So you were pointing at me as though I developed these policies.	所以你指着我好像我制定了这些政策
275	I just want to remind you, I've been a pastor for the last 38 years.	我只是想提醒你过去38年我一直是牧师
276	I have not been a senator.	我不是参议员
277	I didn't develop policies with President Obama or anyone else.	我没有和奥巴马总统或其他任何人制定政策.
278	And again, failing to answer the question.	再一次,没有回答问题。
279	What we've done in Washington, D.C. right now has made the world more dangerous, not more safe.	我们现在在华盛顿特区所做的一切使世界变得更加危险,而不是更加安全.
280	And no one wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon.	没有人希望伊朗拥有核武器。
281	But the president assured us last year we had taken care of those capabilities.	但总统去年向我们保证我们已掌握了这些能力
282	Then we decided we needed to launch a war, an offensive war.	然后我们决定要发动一场战争,一场进攻战争.
283	And that violates every principle of international law.	这违反了国际法的每一项原则。
284	And you stand by it.	汝亦拥护.
285	Let me ask you this question, Mr. Hamilton, which is the main question we're focusing on here.	汉密尔顿先生,我问你一个问题,这是我们在此关注的主要问题。
286	You do believe it's time to end the war with Iran.	你相信是时候结束和伊朗的战争了
287	The war is in, absolutely.	战争是绝对的。
288	So the concern, according to the Wall Street Journal, it notes that if you do so,	所以,据华尔街日报报道,它注意到,如果你这样做,
289	it's quite possible the Iranians will be able to charge tolls through the Strait of Hormuz,	伊朗人有可能通过霍尔木兹海峡收费,
290	raising millions of dollars to build back up their military and perhaps their nuclear weapons.	筹集了数百万美元,用于重建其军事武器,或许是核武器。
291	Are you willing to take that risk for the Middle East, Israel in particular, and for U.S. troops who are there?	你愿意为中东,特别是以色列以及在那里的美军承担这种风险吗?
292	You have 60 seconds.	你有60秒时间。
293	Well, here's what I want to say is Roger Marshall's policies and his support have made all of this happen.	我想说的是罗杰·马歇尔的政策他的支持使这一切得以实现
294	We are less safe and we might be in danger of negotiating to get out of there with tolls happening in the Strait of Hormuz.	我们不太安全,我们可能面临谈判的危险,以在霍尔木兹海峡造成伤亡而离开那里。
295	I'm going to blame that on these guys.	我要怪罪他们
296	I'm going to say we have to do better and what they did made the world less safe, more difficult to navigate because of their decisions.	我要说,我们必须做得更好他们所做的一切使世界变得不那么安全, 更难以航行因为他们的决定。
297	It was not a good decision to go to war in Iran and we need to get out.	在伊朗开战不是个好决定我们需要离开
298	Quick follow-up, are you convinced that Iran did not have access to nuclear weapons in spite of the bombing that the president said?	快速跟进,你是否相信,伊朗尽管总统说发生了爆炸,却无法获得核武器?
299	Council on Foreign Relations says they very much could in short order.	对外关系理事会说,他们很有可能在很短的时间内。
300	The president said that we had taken out their capabilities last year and they were buried underneath rubble.	总统说我们去年拿出了他们的能力他们被埋在瓦砾下
301	They've had the desire for nuclear capabilities for a very long time.	他们对核能力有着很长的渴望.
302	No other Republican president supported this course of action other than President Trump.	除特朗普总统外,没有其他共和党总统支持这一行动方针.
303	And I just want to say I'm not running against President Trump, I'm running against him.	我只想说,我不是在反对特朗普总统,而是在反对他。
304	And he supported it again and again and again.	而他一再支持.
305	All right.	好吧,我们走。
306	Mr. Marshall, I'll give you the final word, 15 seconds.	马歇尔先生,我给你最后一句话,15秒。
307	Just want to make sure when he says that we're not safer, this is the safest this country has been in decades.	只想确定当他说我们不安全时这是这个国家几十年来最安全的地方
308	Look at him, American first senator.	看看他,美国第一参议员
309	Because of secure borders, the murder rates at 100-year-low, fentanyl poisoning is coming down, violent crimes are coming down as well.	由于边境安全,谋杀率以100年以下的速度下降,芬太尼中毒,暴力犯罪也在下降。
310	This nation is much safer than when Joe Biden was letting everyone roam the world.	这个国家比乔·拜登让所有人游荡世界时安全得多.
311	Look, again, Afghanistan, leaving Afghanistan led to the Ukraine war and that gave Putin the open.	你看,再次,阿富汗,离开阿富汗导致乌克兰战争,这给了普京开放。
312	And we can't have a country that's so weak that it leads us to war.	我们不能有一个如此虚弱的国家导致战争。
313	Your time is up.	你的时间到了。
314	Great discussion of foreign policy there, but let's focus on something else, artificial intelligence.	对外交政策的热烈讨论, 但让我们专注于别的东西,人工智能。
315	Before we do, I want to ask each of you, Mr. Hamilton, we'll start with you.	在此之前,我想问你们每个人,汉密尔顿先生我们先从你们开始
316	When did you last use artificial intelligence and what did you use it for?	你最后一次使用人工智能是什么时候?
317	15 seconds.	15秒钟。
318	Well, you know, basically every Google search you use, you're going to get some AI responses to it.	嗯,你知道,基本上每个谷歌搜索你使用, 你会得到一些AI的答复。
319	It has wonderful and amazing potential and also a huge and terrible, devastating potential as well.	它具有奇妙和惊人的潜力,也具有巨大和可怕的毁灭性潜力。
320	All right.	好吧,我们走。
321	Mr. Marshall, when did you last use artificial intelligence?	马歇尔先生,你最后一次使用人工智能是什么时候?
322	What did you use it for?	你为什么用它?
323	15 seconds.	15秒钟。
324	I'm sure it was in the green room looking up a question to see how long did Barack Obama give before Iran would have nuclear weapons.	我敢肯定,它是在绿色的房间寻找一个问题, 看看巴拉克奥巴马给了多久之前,伊朗将拥有核武器。
325	Within 10 years, Iran was going to have nuclear weapons with this weak Obama presidency.	在10年内,伊朗将拥有核武器与这个软弱的奥巴马总统。
326	So I use it every day.	所以我每天都用这个
327	So both of you obviously use it.	所以你们俩显然都用它。
328	Now here's the meat of the question.	现在,这是问题的肉。
329	And we're not talking data centers here.	我们不是在谈论数据中心。
330	That's a separate issue.	这是另一个问题。
331	We're just talking about the technology that is AI.	我们只谈的是AI技术.
332	Mr. Hamilton, should the federal government, should Congress pass regulations that oversee AI capabilities?	汉密尔顿先生,联邦政府,是否应该通过监管AI能力的法规?
333	What would you be able to support if you agree with that concept?	如果你同意这一概念,你会支持什么?
334	And how would you enforce them?	你将如何执行?
335	60 seconds.	60秒钟。
336	Yeah, I think this is really important.	我觉得这很重要
337	And this is a place I don't believe in overregulation, but I believe there are times we have to regulate.	这个地方我不相信管制过严但我相信有时我们必须管制
338	AI is on the cutting edge.	AI处于前沿.
339	And what happens is if people are left to their own devices, they're going to look at the profit motive before they look at what's safe and secure for Americans, for the world.	会发生什么是,如果人们被留给自己的装置, 他们将研究利润动机他们先看看什么是安全的美国,世界。
340	We need to do as we did when it came to nuclear, when we developed nuclear power and nuclear weapons.	我们需要在核问题上,在我们发展核电和核武器时采取我们的做法。
341	We developed a Nuclear Regulatory Commission.	我们建立了核管制委员会。
342	We need to do the same thing with AI.	我们需要对AI做同样的事情.
343	And Congress needs to be involved.	国会需要参与
344	But they also need to bring the experts in AI.	但是他们也需要请专家来AI.
345	Congress is not, are not experts in this field.	国会不是,也不是这方面的专家。
346	We've got to look at how do we take care of this so that we are not jeopardizing the future of our children and our grandchildren right now.	我们必须看看我们如何处理这件事,这样我们现在就不会危及我们儿孙的未来.
347	Leaving this to the AI industry on their own is a bad idea.	把这个交给AI行业是一个坏主意。
348	To clarify, what federal regulations could you support?	为了澄清,你能支持什么联邦条例?
349	You clearly do.	你当然知道
350	So which ones?	哪个?
351	Yeah, you know what?	你知道吗?
352	I'm not sure, to be honest.	老实说,我不确定
353	And the reason why I'm not sure is because I don't think anybody in Congress really fully understands the dangers of AI.	我之所以不确定是因为我认为国会里没有人完全理解AI的危险
354	I think about bio weapons in particular, but there's a whole host of other things.	我特别想的是生物武器, 但有很多其他的事情。
355	We need the people and even the people on the frontier of this are struggling to understand what its dangerous potentials are.	我们需要人民,甚至处于这一边缘的人民,正在努力理解其危险的潜力是什么。
356	All right, Mr. Marshall, same question for you.	好吧,马歇尔先生,同样的问题。
357	Should the federal government regulate AI and its capabilities?	联邦政府应管制大赦国际及其能力吗?
358	What could you support if you agree with that concept?	如果你同意这一概念,你会支持什么?
359	And how would you enforce it?	你怎么执行?
360	60 seconds.	60秒钟。
361	Yeah, I think it's a light touch, which is what Republicans do.	是的,我认为这是一个轻触, 这是共和党做的。
362	Some type of light touch.	某种轻触.
363	I look at this through a lens always first of national security.	我总是从国家安全的角度来看待这个问题。
364	We cannot let China get ahead of our military.	我们不能让中国超越我们的军队
365	I think that's number one.	我想这是第一。
366	Next, we need to demand full transparency.	其次,我们需要充分的透明度。
367	So that's what my legislation would look like.	所以这就是我的立法会是什么样子。
368	Demand full transparency, protect our children, protect your privacy.	要求完全透明,保护我们的孩子,保护你的隐私.
369	Those would be the guardrails.	这些是护栏
370	But again, I want you to think what Chuck Schumer, what his leadership wants to do.	但是,我还是要你想想查克·舒默,他的领导想做什么
371	They want some type of a world order on this, some type of regulatory around AI that the whole world would follow.	他们想要一种世界秩序在这个,某种类型的监管围绕AI,整个世界会遵循。
372	Do you think that China and Russia will ever follow this?	你觉得中国和俄罗斯会跟随吗?
373	So if we would let my opponent become the senator, it would give control of the Senate to Chuck Schumer.	所以,如果我们让我的对手成为参议员, 它会把参议院的控制权给查克·舒默。
374	And he would go back to some to probably the League of Nations attitude of trying to figure out some type of guardrails for this.	他可能会回到某些人身上回到国际联盟的态度试图找出某种护栏
375	But first and foremost, we need to make sure that we keep our military strong and ahead.	但首先,我们需要确保我们保持军事实力和前进。
376	And again, full transparency, we need to know what's coming down down the road.	同样,完全透明,我们需要知道接下来的道路是什么。
377	Protect our children, protect people's privacy.	保护我们的孩子,保护人们的隐私.
378	All right.	好吧,我们走。
379	Can I respond to that?	我能回答吗?
380	15 seconds.	15秒钟。
381	Sure.	当然
382	He talks about a light touch.	他谈论轻触.
383	This is an existential potential existential threat to the human race.	这是对人类存在的潜在威胁。
384	而我不是在哭狼的人 \fn微软雅黑And I'm not someone who's crying wolf.
385	I'm just saying we can't just go with a light touch and hope everybody does their best.	我只是说我们不能光着身子走希望每个人都能尽力
386	We've got to be more involved in that.	我们必须多参与其中。
387	And this is one place where the federal government needs to be more engaged and involved.	这也是联邦政府需要更多参与的地方。
388	Let's move now to the next topic.	让我们现在开始下一个话题。
389	And you sort of touched on it there.	你碰过那里
390	The balance of power and who will have control of the Senate and why this race is critical and why it's important we're here tonight.	权力的平衡,谁能控制参议院,为什么这场比赛是关键的,为什么我们今晚在这里是重要的.
391	Mr. Marshall, President Trump came to Wichita Park City on Monday to support you campaign for you.	马歇尔先生,川普总统周一来到威奇塔公园城支持你竞选.
392	Here's what he told the crowd.	这是他告诉人群的。
393	And in this election, I'm asking you to pretend please that I'm on the ballot.	在这次选举中,我要求你假装我参加了投票。
394	Just pretend.	假装吧
395	But our September Emerson next star poll found that 53 percent of likely Kansas voters disapproved of the job the president was doing.	但是我们9月份的爱默生下一次星际民意调查发现 53%的堪萨斯州选民不同意总统的工作
396	So he's underwater 13 points.	所以他在水下13点
397	And that's after he won the state by 16 two years ago.	这是他两年前16年夺得国家冠军之后
398	Here's my question to you.	我问你个问题
399	Even so, he was here to support you.	即便如此他还是来支持你的
400	Does that mean we should expect that you will support every part of his agenda?	这是否意味着我们应该期望你支持他议程的每一部分?
401	Sixty seconds.	六十秒钟
402	No, I've always I've had multiple times when I've objected to the president president before.	不,我以前反对总统的时候总是有好几次
403	But we I do want to emphasize we need the Trump voters to come out.	但我想强调我们需要川普选民出来
404	And that would be my appeal tonight to people.	这将是我今晚对人们的呼吁。
405	If you want the Trump agenda to continue, if you want secure borders,	如果你想让特朗普议程继续下去, 如果你想要安全的边界,
406	if you want a strong military, if you want lower taxes than you and you voted for President Trump,	如果你想要一支强大的军队如果你想要比自己更低的税并且你投给川普总统
407	you need to come out because we delivered on those things.	你得出来,因为我们把那些东西送来了
408	Your border has never been so secure.	你的边界从未如此安全过
409	We've taken care of the military, the strongest military in our lives.	我们已经照顾好军队,我们生活中最强大的军队.
410	The working family tax cuts, the largest tax cut in American history.	工作家庭减税,是美国历史上最大的减税.
411	Kansans get to keep two to three thousand dollars more of their own money.	坎桑斯还得再保留两到三千元自己的钱.
412	Compare it again to what Adam Hamilton and Chuck Schumer would look like if they would control the Senate.	和亚当·汉密尔顿和查克·舒默如果控制参议院会是什么样子再做比较.
413	Look, every Senate Democrat voted against funding border security.	听着每个参议院民主党人都投票反对为边境安全提供资金
414	Every Senate Democrat voted against funding the military.	每个参议院民主党人投票反对为军队提供资金.
415	Every Senate Democrat voted against lower taxes.	每个参议院民主党人投票反对低税.
416	Every Senate Democrat voted against voter ID.	每个参议院民主党投票反对选民身份证.
417	Every Senate Democrat on the ad committee voted against the farm bill.	每个参议院民主党在广告委员会投票反对农场法案.
418	There's kind of a ring going here.	这里有枚戒指
419	This guy's funded by Chuck Schumer.	这家伙的资金来自查克·舒默.
420	他会永远和Chuck Schumer在一起
421	And that's why we need to keep myself in that Senate seat.	这就是为什么我们需要保持自己在参议院席位。
422	All right.	好吧,我们走。
423	Very first follow up.	第一次跟进
424	No, very quick follow up.	不,很快的跟进
425	You said you won't support all of Mr. Trump's agenda.	你说你不会支持特朗普先生的全部计划
426	Name one thing you won't support that's part of his agenda.	有件事你不会支持这是他计划的一部分
427	Yeah, I think it's even just in the past week.	是的,我想它甚至只是在过去一周。
428	Well, the operation in DHS.	人口与健康部的手术
429	The first thing I did when I saw what was going on in southwest Kansas,	我第一次看到堪萨斯州西南部发生的事
430	I picked up the phone, called Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen and said,	我拿起电话,叫马克・韦恩・穆伦秘书说,
431	hey, I don't think this is quite right.	嘿,我不认为这是相当正确的。
432	What's going on?	这是怎么回事?
433	When he tried to import beef, I went against that as well.	当他试图进口牛肉时我也反对了
434	The interesting thing is just like with my wife, I can disagree with her.	有趣的事情就像我太太一样我不同意她
435	My wife is always right and President Trump is not always right.	我妻子总是对的,川普总统并不总是对的.
436	But I do think that it's great that I have a relationship that I can pick up	但我确实认为,这是伟大的我有一个关系,我可以找到
437	the phone and discuss with him the pros and cons of what he's contemplating.	和他讨论他考虑的利弊
438	Thank you, Mr. Hamilton.	谢谢你,汉密尔顿先生。
439	Your message is leading from the middle.	你的消息是从中间传来的
440	That's kind of your campaign theme.	这就是你的竞选主题
441	But in the past, we've done the record search.	但在过去,我们已经做了记录搜索。
442	You've donated to far more Democrats than Republicans of late,	你捐给民主党人的钱远远多于最近共和党人
443	including Congresswoman Sharice Davids, President Joe Biden, Kamala Harris,	包括女众议员沙里斯·戴维斯,总统乔·拜登,卡马拉·哈里斯,
444	when she was stepping in, Democrats that many would find liberal,	当她介入的时候,许多民主党人会发现自由派,
445	and in a podcast recently addressing white privilege, you said this.	在最近一个播客谈到白人特权,你这样说。
446	But I will tell you, I started out with advantages that I didn't even understand.	但我会告诉你, 我一开始的优势我甚至不明白。
447	It gives me advantages that other folks have not had.	这给了我别人没有的优势
448	And here you are preaching about climate change and cattle.	在这里,你们宣扬气候变化和牛。
449	Cattle end up producing more carbon dioxide than other crops that we could grow	牛最后生产出更多的二氧化碳比其他作物,我们可以种植。
450	or other forms of food that we could have.	或者其他形式的食物我们可以有。
451	All right, I'm not asking you to relitigate those passages.	好吧我不是要你重审那些段落
452	I think we've talked about that.	我想我们已经谈过了
453	What I want to hear from you is if you're leading from the middle	我想从你那里听到的是如果你从中间领导
454	and campaigning that way, why should voters trust that you'll vote that way	投票人为什么要相信你会那样投票
455	when many of these themes are all very progressive?	当许多这些主题都非常进步的时候?
456	You have 60 seconds.	你有60秒时间。
457	Well, first of all, I am somebody who has led from the middle for 38 years.	首先,我是从中间领导了38年的人。
458	So my aim is if I'm elected as a moderate or independent-minded Democrat,	所以我的目标是,如果我当选一个温和或独立的民主党,
459	I'm going to work across the aisle to try to bring people together to solve problems.	我要在过道上工作试着把人们聚在一起解决问题
460	And I do care about these issues, but I will tell you, I also love the beef industry.	我确实关心这些问题, 但我会告诉你,我也爱牛肉业。
461	I'm going to fight for them in Washington, D.C.	我要在华盛顿特区为他们而战
462	They're hurting under the policies that Roger Marshall is supporting.	罗杰·马歇尔支持的政策使他们受到伤害
463	So again and again and again, whether it's diesel fuel prices,	无论柴油价格如何
464	whether it's the tariffs and the impact tariffs we're having on farmers,	无论是关税和对农民的影响关税,
465	folks are recognizing it's what's happening in the southwest part of the state right now.	人们已经意识到了发生在州西南部的事情
466	People are crying out and saying, come on, Roger Marshall, speak up for us.	人们大喊大叫,说,来吧,罗杰・马歇尔,为我们说话。
467	I'm going to speak up for us.	我要代表我们说话
468	He says he speaks up for us, but the president doesn't seem to listen to what he has to say.	他说他替我们说话但总统似乎不听他的话
469	Real quick follow-up and sort of in the same theme as Mr. Marshall,	和马歇尔先生一样,
470	what progressive policy could you not support?	什么样的进步政策你能不支持?
471	Yeah, well, first of all, yeah, absolutely.	是啊,首先,是啊,绝对。
472	The Biden policies when it came to the border were a disaster.	进入边境时的拜登政策是一场灾难.
473	I believe in strong and secure borders.	我相信强大和安全的边界。
474	I think that's very important.	我觉得这很重要
475	And Biden, it was a terrible disaster.	拜登,这是一场可怕的灾难
476	I'm not somebody who favors the Socialist Party.	我不是喜欢社会党的人
477	I'm somebody who stands in the middle.	我是站在中间的人
478	I'm going to try to work for all Kansans, Republicans, independents and Democrats.	我要努力为所有坎桑人,共和党人,独立派和民主党工作.
479	And I got a lot of Trump supporters who are supporting me as well, which has been very exciting.	我有很多特朗普的支持者也支持我,这非常令人兴奋.
480	So yeah, that's where I'm going to try to lead from.	所以,这就是我要去试图引导。
481	And right now we have two Republican senators working the entire Senate.	现在有两个共和党参议员在整个参议院工作
482	We need one Republican senator in Jerry Moran and one Democrat working the Democratic side of the aisle.	我们需要一个共和党参议员在杰里莫兰和一个民主党工作在民主一方过道。
483	Let's move on to another topic that you both mentioned.	我们继续谈你们提到的另一个话题
484	Do I get a rebuttal?	我得到一个反驳?
485	No, we're going to move on.	不,我们要继续前进。
486	We're going to move on to tariffs.	我们要继续征收关税。
487	Some rich target, rich environment here.	一些丰富的目标, 丰富的环境在这里。
488	Was he leading from the middle when one out of four churches left his denomination?	当四分之一的教会离开他的教派时,他是从中间领头的吗?
489	Is that what you call leading from the middle when you split the Methodist church?	这就是你所谓的从中间领先当你分裂卫理公会?
490	Let's move on.	让我们继续前进。
491	I want to get on to tariffs here.	我想在这里关税。
492	That's an important subject.	这是一个重要的话题。
493	And we'll ask both of you about appearances in Topeka on Friday.	我们会问你们俩周五在托皮卡的出现
494	Mr. Hamilton, you said Kansas employers are struggling with the unpredictability of the policy.	汉密尔顿先生你说堪萨斯州的雇主们正在为政策的不可预测性而挣扎
495	So my question, as you campaign, you can say that.	所以我的问题,当你竞选时, 你可以这么说。
496	But give me a specific company or business you spoke to that says,	但是,给我一个特定的公司或企业你说话说,
497	we're having to cut back.	我们必须削减。
498	We're not hiring.	我们不雇用。
499	We're not growing.	我们没有成长。
500	You've got 60 seconds.	你还有60秒
501	Sure.	当然
502	So I spoke with folks at Hallmark with Great Plains Manufacturing, with small manufacturers making parts for the F-15.	我和Hallmark的人和大平原制造公司谈过了小制造商为F-15制造零件
503	I spoke with people who are single proprietor businesses.	我跟那些独资企业的人谈过了
504	They all said the same thing.	他们都这么说
505	What we need in Washington, D.C. is predictability and order.	我们在华盛顿特区需要的是可预测性和秩序。
506	What we have today is unpredictability, instability, and we have chaos and corruption in Washington, D.C.	我们今天所具备的是不可预测性、不稳定性,我们在华盛顿特区有混乱和腐败。
507	They say it's very hard to run a business this way.	他们说这样经营生意很困难
508	Every business owner I've talked to said the same thing.	我和每个商人都说过同样的话
509	You can't run a business when you don't know what the tariffs are going to be tomorrow or the next day,	当你不知道明天或第二天的关税是多少就不能做生意
510	what tariffs are going to be announced, or how our president, supported by Roger Marshall,	在罗杰·马歇尔的支持下将公布什么关税以及我们的总统
511	is going to alienate our trading partners, including Canada, our number two trading partner.	将疏远我们的贸易伙伴, 包括加拿大,我们的第二贸易伙伴。
512	We trade $4 billion worth of goods with Canada every year.	我们每年与加拿大交换价值40亿美元的货物。
513	And our president, supported by Roger Marshall, although eventually he got around to protesting,	我们的总统在罗杰·马歇尔的支持下尽管他最终开始抗议
514	calls Bombardier's airplanes, crummy airplanes.	呼叫邦帕迪埃的飞机笨飞机
515	He slaps another 50 percent tariff on our trading partners.	他又对我们的贸易伙伴征收50%的关税
516	He alienates our allies, and that hurts our businesses in America.	他疏远我们的盟友这伤害了我们在美国的生意
517	This is creating instability, chaos, and corruption.	这造成了不稳定、混乱和腐败。
518	Mr. Marshall, in Topeka Friday, you also commented, you said,	马歇尔先生,在托佩卡星期五,你还评论说,
519	I think most manufacturing across the state of Kansas is growing because of these tariffs.	我认为整个堪萨斯州的大部分制造业都因为这些关税而增长.
520	Clearly a difference of opinion there.	那里显然有意见分歧。
521	Now I'll ask you the same question.	今复问汝.
522	Could you name a business or two that you spoke to who says, yes, these tariffs are helping us.	你能给一两家你跟谁说过的生意起名吗? 是的,这些关税帮助了我们。
523	We're adding people.	我们在增加人手
524	We're growing.	我们正在成长。
525	You've got 60 seconds.	你还有60秒
526	由于关税,斯科特堡的Superiorless Windows正在增长.
527	Kubota, which you visited in Salina, is growing because of the tariffs.	库博塔,你在萨利纳参观过,由于关税问题,正在增长.
528	Hutchison的Superior Boiler是另一个例子。
529	We're seeing a manufacturing renaissance because we're bringing these jobs back home.	我们正看到制造业的复兴因为我们把这些工作带回家。
530	So the tariffs are working.	所以关税是有效的。
531	I was tired of seeing jobs leave America.	我厌倦了看到工作离开美国。
532	Now China will be happy with my opponent because he doesn't care about fighting for these jobs.	现在中国会对我对手感到高兴,因为他不在乎为这些工作而奋斗.
533	And even for Canada, are you happy that all these counterfeits coming across the border from Canada,	即使对加拿大来说,你是否很高兴这些假冒的从加拿大入境,
534	are you happy with all this aluminum and steel that's being dumped from China	你对从中国倾倒的铝和钢是否满意
535	through Canada coming in here and using their tariffs?	通过加拿大来到这里并使用他们的关税?
536	No, I'm always going to stand up for American jobs.	不,我总是要站出来为美国的工作。
537	Our economy is really, really growing right now.	我们的经济正在真正,真正地增长。
538	We're going to have a 5% GDP across the country right now.	现在全国GDP将达到5%.
539	Even last year, Kansas had in the third quarter the leading GDP in the country of over 6%.	即使在去年,堪萨斯州第三季度的GDP也占全国GDP的6%以上。
540	You know what?	你知道吗?
541	When I talk to people across the state of Kansas,	当我和堪萨斯州各地的人交谈时
542	and we've done over 300 stops the last couple of months,	我们在过去几个月里已经停了三百多个站
543	what they tell me that they want is a good job,	他们告诉我,他们想要的是一个好工作,
544	a job that gives them meaning and purpose.	一份赋予他们意义和目的的工作。
545	And there are good jobs all across the state of Kansas.	堪萨斯州各地都有好工作
546	Look at Boeing and Wichita is another one.	看看波音和威奇塔是另一个
547	They're backed up for about three years, Textron growing.	他们支撑了大约三年,Textron正在成长.
548	Trust me, anyone that's building F-35s, they're very busy right now.	相信我,凡建造F -35的, 他们现在很忙。
549	Can I respond?	我能回答吗?
550	15 seconds, 15 seconds.	15秒钟,15秒。
551	So I did talk to one of those manufacturers making parts for the F-15,	所以我跟一个制造F-15零件的制造商谈过了
552	having to import tariff-laden aluminum.	需要进口高关税铝。
553	They said that they lost $80,000 on their last contract.	他们说他们上次的合同损失了8万美元。
554	They're going to lose employees because of that.	他们会因此失去员工.
555	Great Plains Manufacturing, Kubota, they are charging now $2,000 in tariffs	大平原制造厂,久保田,现在收费2000元
556	for one of their leading pieces of equipment.	他们的首饰之一。
557	You have made that possible.	你做到了这一点。
558	Now they're wondering if they're going to keep their jobs.	现在他们想知道他们是否要保住工作.
559	I did sit down with them.	我确实和他们坐在一起
560	You said you've listed in 300 campaign stops.	你说你已经列出300个竞选站
561	You did not listen in 300 campaign stops.	你没有听300个竞选站。
562	We had 300 photo ops.	我们拍了300张照片
563	Let's move on to another issue.	让我们继续谈另一个问题。
564	Those companies are growing, never been stronger.	这些公司正在成长,从未更强大过。
565	Let's talk about farmers.	谈农民.
566	Mr. Marshall, you've supported crops, insurance subsidies,	马歇尔先生,你支持农作物,保险补贴,
567	and obviously emergency payments to farmers as well.	并且显然还给农民紧急付款。
568	Here's my question.	问曰.
569	Should keeping a family farm in business be a long-term commitment for taxpayers,	如果让家庭农场继续经营是纳税人的长期承诺,
570	even if that farm needs help year after year after year?	即使农场需要年复一年的帮助?
571	At what point do you draw the line for taxpayers to support these farms?	你几时给纳税人划线支持这些农场?.
572	60 seconds.	60秒钟。
573	Gosh, I want to do everything possible to keep the family farms alive and well.	天啊,我想尽一切可能保持家庭农场的活力
574	That's why with Republican-only votes in the working family tax cuts,	这就是为什么只有共和党的选票在工作家庭减税,
575	we added $65 billion to crop insurance.	我们增加了650亿美元作物保险。
576	Then we need to talk about Title I, ARC funding, PLC.	然后我们需要谈谈第一编,ARC资助,PLC.
577	I'm sure you could explain that.	我相信你能解释清楚
578	We increased those some 10 or 20% as well.	我们增加了大约10%或20%。
579	We doubled the death tax exemption.	我们把免征死亡税增加一倍。
580	We made permanent the tax breaks on bonus depreciation,	我们为奖金的折旧提供了永久的税收减免,
581	and interest deductibility as well.	利息也可以扣除
582	So all those are things that will help that family farm stay in business.	因此,所有这些东西将帮助家庭农场继续经营。
583	Couldn't be prouder of it.	实在是太骄傲了
584	I'm grateful that President Trump is giving us $8 billion more for diesel as well.	感谢川普总统也给我们80亿美元用于柴油.
585	So I want to do everything I can.	所以我想尽我所能
586	I grew up on a hundred, both of my families had 160-acre farms,	我长大了一百, 我的家庭都有160英亩的农场,
587	and I want to make sure that those family farms are still in business for the next generations.	我想确保那些家庭农场仍然在经营后代。
588	We all do, but to my question, how long,	我们都一样,但是,我的问题,多久,
589	or is there a line you have to draw on crop subsidies, farm subsidies,	或者有一条线你必须从农作物补贴,农场补贴中提取,
590	and obviously emergency payments are different,	显然紧急支付是不同的,
591	but how long should taxpayers be on the hook	但纳税人应该上钩多久
592	if these farms can't sustain and support themselves?	如果这些农场不能养活自己呢?
593	Yeah.	对
594	15 seconds.	15秒钟。
595	You bet.	当然
596	There's a reason that Americans pay about a third or half	美国人付三半钱是有原因的
597	of what other developed nations do for food.	以其他发达国家的粮食为目的。
598	A third, a half.	第三个,一个半。
599	It's because of us making sure that that farmer who can't get into his crop	是因为我们确保那个农民不能进入他的作物
600	because there's water in the field, he can't go harvest his soybeans or corn right now.	因为田里有水,他现在不能去收割他的大豆或玉米.
601	So all those subsidies that you're calling them allow them to plant next year's crops	所以,所有的补贴你叫他们允许他们种植明年的作物
602	and creates a stable supply and keeps the price down.	并创造稳定的供给并保持价格下降。
603	So this is more than just for the farmer.	因此,这不仅仅是农民。
604	This is a national security issue and keeps the cost of groceries down.	这是一个国家安全问题,使杂货费用降低。
605	Thank you.	谢谢
606	Can I ask Mr. Hamilton something to this?	我能问汉密尔顿先生一件事吗?
607	No, no.	没有,没有。
608	I want you to stick with the question.	我要你继续回答这个问题。
609	Sure.	当然
610	Which is, as I asked Mr. Marshall, how long do you subsidize family farms?	正如我问Marshall先生的你给家庭农场补贴多久了?
611	Do federal taxpayers do that?	联邦纳税人会这样做吗?
612	Are there other ways around that, as Mr. Marshall suggested?	马歇尔先生建议的其他方法吗?
613	Where would you draw that line?	你会在哪里划线?
614	60 seconds.	60秒钟。
615	So here's what I want to say is when I travel across the state talking to farmers	所以我想说的是当我穿越整个州和农民交谈时
616	and I've talked to lots of them and actually sat and listened to them,	我跟很多人谈过话,然后坐下来听他们说话,
617	and part of what they say is we don't want subsidies.	他们所说的一部分就是我们不需要补贴
618	We just want to have an even playing field where we have a chance to make a living.	我们只是想有一个公平的竞技场我们有机会谋生。
619	And what's happening today, because of the war in Iran, we have diesel prices, record highs.	而今天发生的事情,由于伊朗的战争, 我们有柴油价格,创下历史新高。
620	A year ago, $3.40 a gallon.	一年前,每加仑3.40美元.
621	Now, $6.40 a gallon.	现在,每加仑6.40美元。
622	That's killing people.	这就是杀人。
623	Phosphate doubling in price.	磷酸盐的价格翻了一番
624	You have the tariffs, which are impacting trade deals.	你有关税, 影响贸易交易。
625	I mean, all of these things are making it harder and harder on Kansas farmers.	我的意思是,所有这些事情使它越来越难堪萨斯农民。
626	So we do need protection for Kansas farmers.	所以我们确实需要保护堪萨斯州的农民。
627	I will fight for that.	我会为此而战的
628	But I also want to say that what's happening in Washington that Roger Marshall is supporting	但我也想说华盛顿发生的事情罗杰·马歇尔支持
629	is hurting Kansas farmers.	正在伤害堪萨斯州的农民
630	And they're crying out and saying, look, we don't want subsidies.	他们喊着说,我们不需要补贴。
631	What we want is a chance to earn a decent living on our own.	我们希望的是有机会靠自己过上体面的生活。
632	And Washington is making it harder and harder and harder.	华盛顿越来越难了
633	That's not okay.	这不好。
634	And again, to my question, where do you draw the line on providing that support that farms	再说一遍,我的问题是,你从哪里来提供农场的支持?
635	that can't year after year support themselves?	不能年复一年地养活自己?
636	Yeah, you know what?	你知道吗?
637	I'm not sure.	我不太确定说不定
638	I won't.	我不会的
639	I don't really have an answer to that.	我真的没有答案
640	I can only say this, that we do need to be able to help our farmers.	我只能说,我们确实需要能够帮助我们的农民。
641	Our farmers need support.	我们的农民需要支持。
642	There are times where the weather is going to be impacting their crops, where there's	有时天气会影响他们的作物,
643	other unforeseen forces.	其他无法预料的力量。
644	We've got to be able to support our farmers.	得力扶持农民.
645	And that's critical for America.	这对美国至关重要。
646	Let me ask this question of both of you.	让我问你们俩的问题。
647	Mr. Marshall, we'll start with you first as a follow-up.	马歇尔先生我们先从你开始作为后续
648	Obviously, the biggest holdup right now in the Senate on getting a farm bill out is food	很明显,目前参议院最大的阻拦获得农场法案是食品
649	benefits, SNAP, the food stamp, the old food stamp program.	救济金,SNAP,食品印章,旧食品印章计划。
650	Is it time to separate SNAP from the farm bill?	是时候把SNAP和农场账单分开了吗?
651	Thirty seconds.	30秒钟。
652	And I wish we could, but we don't have the votes to do it because Senate Democrats are	我希望我们能,但我们没有投票做到这一点,因为参议院民主党是
653	focused on food stamps.	重点是粮票。
654	And we've increased the spending on food stamps from $80 billion a year to $150 billion a	我们把粮票开支从每年800亿美元增加到1500亿美元
655	year.	年数。
656	So the Senate Democrats walk in lockstep on the food stamp, and then the Republicans,	因此,参议院民主党人走在锁食品印章,然后共和党,
657	we're sitting there fighting for the farmer, and every Senate Democrat's voting against	我们坐在那里为农民而战每个参议院民主党人都投票反对
658	those right now.	那些现在。
659	So the only way to get a farm bill passed is to bring both of these groups together.	所以通过一个农场法案的唯一方法就是把这两个团体聚集在一起
660	Otherwise, you'll never get 60 votes on a Senate.	否则,你永远不会得到60票在参议院。
661	And by the way, within this farm bill, there's 150 bills within it.	顺便说一句,在这个农场法案里,里面有150个法案.
662	Twenty-two of those are mined.	其中22枚地雷被埋设。
663	They're all bipartisan bills that help with fertilizer issues, help with environmental	他们都是两党的法案帮助解决化肥问题帮助环境
664	issues as well.	还存在问题。
665	The only reason that this isn't passed is because of politics, that the Senate Democrats	唯一没有通过的原因是政治,参议院民主党人
666	are not willing to give Republicans a win.	不愿让共和党赢得胜利
667	Mr. Hamilton, your thoughts?	汉密尔顿先生,你的想法?
668	Is it time to separate SNAP from the farm bill?	是时候把SNAP和农场账单分开了吗?
669	Thirty seconds.	30秒钟。
670	No, it's not.	不,这不是。
671	This is really important that we keep those two things together, because it was formed	这是非常重要的,我们把这两件事放在一起,因为它是形成的
672	to develop, to support both urban poor children, or poor children, really, urban or rural,	发展,既支持城市贫困儿童,也支持城市贫困儿童或农村贫困儿童,
673	and our farmers.	和我们的农民。
674	And that is one way, as the senator said, that we get this passed and across the finish	正如参议员所说,这是一种方式, 即我们得到这个通过和完成
675	line.	线条。
676	But I do want to remind him, as he laments the SNAP benefits, he's managed to come up	但我想提醒他当他感叹SNAP的好处时
677	and cut SNAP benefits for thousands of children across the state of Kansas.	并削减 SNAP 对数千名儿童堪萨斯州。
678	Our greatest Republican senator was Bob Dole.	我们最伟大的共和党参议员是鲍勃·多尔。
679	Bob Dole和George McGovern开发了SNAP计划, 他们这样做是因为他们
680	saw a kid who was hungry and didn't have food to eat at lunch, and the kids said,	看见一个孩子饿了,午餐时没有吃的,孩子们说:
681	I'm ashamed that I can't, you know, I don't have lunch.	我感到羞愧我不能,你知道, 我没有午餐。
682	And they said, you know, we're ashamed that we're letting kids go hungry in our state.	他们说,你知道,我们很羞愧我们让孩子们在我们的州挨饿。
683	But apparently, our sitting senator is not ashamed of letting kids go hungry.	但显然,我们的现任参议员并不感到羞愧让孩子们挨饿。
684	Mr. Marshall?	马歇尔先生?
685	I get to rebut that.	我可以反驳这一点。
686	I'll let you rebut that, and we'll give you up to 30 seconds.	我会让你反驳的, 我们会给你30秒。
687	Yeah.	对
688	You know, once upon a time when people were coming off food stamps, it was meant to be	你知道,有一次,当人们来粮票,这是注定的
689	a good thing.	不错
690	It meant that they'd found a job.	这意味着他们找到了工作。
691	Look, at least 80 or 90 percent of Kansas support some type of work requirement.	听着,至少80%或90%的堪萨斯人支持某种工作要求。
692	And we don't have very stringent requirements.	我们没有非常严格的要求。
693	We're just asking people that are healthy, of working age, that don't have children under	我们只是问那些健康、工作年龄、没有孩子的人
694	the age of 14 to go to try to get a job in just 20 hours a week.	14岁的人每周只工作20小时
695	That's all we're asking.	这就是我们要求的。
696	And the food stamp fraud error rate's gone from like 5 percent to 15 percent in Kansas.	食品印章欺诈的误差率在堪萨斯州从5%降到15%
697	Kansans don't want fraud.	坎桑斯不想骗人
698	On the other hand, there's all these other food programs.	另一方面,还有其他的食品计划.
699	Kids today, they get free breakfast, reduced lunches, free dinners at school.	孩子们今天可以免费吃早餐,减少午餐,在学校免费吃晚饭.
700	The food banks, we've increased funding.	食品银行,我们增加了资金。
701	Like I started this conversation up before, we went from spending $80 billion a year to	就像我之前开始的谈话我们从每年花费800亿美元到
702	$150 billion.	1500亿元.
703	I don't want any kid to go to bed hungry.	我不想有小孩饿着睡
704	Thank you.	谢谢
705	Let's talk about Social Security, older kids, so to speak.	我们来谈谈社会保障, 年长的孩子,所以说。
706	You both talked about this at the state fair.	你们俩在州博览会上都说过
707	It came up there.	它从上面出来了
708	But in watching that, I didn't get any specifics on how, because it's going to come up 2032.	但是在看这个的时候,我没有得到任何细节如何, 因为它会上升2032。
709	2032, the trust fund is supposed to be out of money and automatic benefit cuts kick in.	2032年,该信托基金应该没有钱了并且自动削减福利。
710	So let's start with you, Mr. Hamilton.	那就从你开始吧汉密尔顿先生
711	We have some specifics here.	我们这里有一些细节。
712	Would you remove the cap on the payroll tax?	你会取消工资税的上限吗?
713	I think it's currently around $184,000.	我想现在大概是184,000美元
714	So higher earners, I should say, pay Social Security tax on all their wages.	因此,更高的收入者,我应该说, 支付社会保障税他们的所有工资。
715	And would you raise the full retirement age for younger workers?	你会提高年轻工人的退休年龄吗?
716	And if so, what age would that be?	如果是的话,那会是几岁?
717	60 seconds.	60秒钟。
718	Yeah, yeah.	对对
719	So first of all, yes, I would raise the cap.	所以,首先,是的,我会提高上限。
720	I don't think that I would take it away entirely, but I would raise the cap right now.	我不认为我会把它完全拿走, 但我会提高帽子现在。
721	Somebody who's making a million dollars a year is paying the same amount in FICA tax as somebody who's making $184,000 a year.	一个每年赚一百万的人付的FICA税和每年赚184,000美元的人一样
722	I think most people say that's not right.	我觉得大多数人都说这不对
723	We need to change that.	我们需要改变这一点。
724	And what the number is, I'm not sure right now.	号码是什么,我不确定现在。
725	But what I do believe is we need to bring thoughtful Republicans and Democrats together who are willing to have the courage to say we got to take a very serious look at this.	但我相信,我们需要把深思熟虑的共和党人和民主党人聚集在一起,他们愿意有勇气说,我们必须认真看待这个问题。
726	And we have to work together.	我们必须共同努力。
727	We have to stack hands, stop placing blame on the other party.	我们必须堆起手来别怪罪对方
728	And let's work together to solve this because 2032 is just around the corner.	让我们一起努力解决这个问题,因为2032年就在拐角处.
729	And so far, Roger Marshall's been in Congress for 10 years, hasn't got the job done on this.	目前为止,罗杰·马歇尔在国会已经十年了,还没有完成这项工作.
730	What about the retirement age, raising it for younger workers?	年轻工人的退休年龄如何?
731	I think that's something we need to look at, but I'm not committing to that right now.	我想我们需要看看, 但我现在不承诺。
732	All right.	好吧,我们走。
733	Marshall先生问你两个问题
734	Would you vote to remove that cap on the payroll tax and income tax or the income so that it was applied to wealthier Kansans, higher earners?	你会投票取消工资税和所得税或收入的上限,以便适用于更富有的坎桑人,高收入的人吗?
735	And would you support raising the retirement age?	你会支持提高退休年龄吗?
736	And if so, for younger workers, at what level would you raise it?	如果是的话,对于年轻的工人,你会在什么级别上提高?
737	60 seconds.	60秒钟。
738	Yeah.	对
739	So I would eliminate eliminate the cap altogether.	所以我会完全取消这个帽子
740	As far as adjusting the age, I think there's a lot of other things we can try to exhaust first on that side.	至于调整年龄,我认为还有很多其它事情我们可以尝试先在那边耗尽.
741	And there's four or five knobs here.	还有四五个把手
742	And you're right.	你说得对
743	It will take a Republicans and Democrats working together.	共和党和民主党需要合作
744	There is no easy answer because we have more people retiring than entering the workforce.	没有容易的答案,因为我们退休的人数比加入劳动力队伍多。
745	So that's one of the problems.	所以这就是问题之一。
746	Look, a rising tide floats all boats.	你看,涨潮漂浮所有的船只。
747	The first thing we need to do is have a strong economy.	我们首先需要做的是拥有强大的经济.
748	Look, we're expecting a five percent GDP growth this year.	我们预计今年GDP增长5%。
749	That's what we need.	这就是我们需要的。
750	We need to minimize inflation.	我们需要尽量减少通货膨胀。
751	We need to balance a budget.	我们需要平衡预算。
752	It's all these things coming together.	这一切都是一起发生的。
753	But you have to realize what the Democrats want to do.	但你必须明白民主党想做什么
754	And again, if Chuck Schumer is in control, what he'll want to do is just borrow more money from your grandchildren.	再说一次,如果查克·舒默掌握了权势他会想从你的孙子那里借更多钱
755	That's always the Democrats plan.	这是民主党的计划
756	Either start a new program or just so more money at the current government program.	要么启动一个新计划要么在目前的政府计划中多花钱
757	The Democrats really don't have solutions.	民主党真的没有解决方案.
758	So our solutions are going to be growing the economy, number one.	因此,我们的解决方案是增长经济,第一。
759	And also there's a lot of fraud, waste and abuse.	也有很多欺诈,浪费和滥用.
760	Just yesterday, the Wall Street Journal reporting hundreds of illegal aliens that are getting Social Security benefits.	就在昨天,《华尔街日报》报道了数百名正在领取社会保障福利的非法外国人。
761	This is something that my opponent has always supported.	这是我对手一贯支持的
762	Amnesty and giving illegal immigrants benefits, welfare benefits.	大赦和给予非法移民福利,福利待遇.
763	And let me ask you about the retirement age.	我问你一下退休年龄
764	If I missed that, I apologize.	如果我错过了,我道歉。
765	Did you have a retirement age you would set it at for younger workers?	你有一个退休年龄你会为年轻工人设定这个年龄?
766	I'm not ready to go there.	我还没准备好去那里
767	I think we have to figure out all these other dials.	我想我们得找出其他的号码
768	You can't just play with one dial and have all the other dials figured out.	你不能只用一个拨号就把其他的拨号都弄明白了
769	Could I respond to this?	我可以回答吗?
770	Thank you.	谢谢
771	You may have 15 seconds.	你可能还有15秒
772	So first of all, when I suggested that we needed to raise the cap at the state fair debate,	因此,首先,当我建议我们需要提高上限在州公平辩论中,
773	you called me a tax and spend liberal Democrat.	你叫我税并花费自由民主党。
774	And yet you're saying the same thing today, which I really appreciate.	但你今天也这么说我真的很感激
775	Thank you.	谢谢
776	I couldn't hear you.	我听不见
777	Hang on.	坚持住。
778	Let him finish.	让他说完
779	You want to respond to the Amnesty?	你想回应大赦吗?
780	Yeah, I want to respond to that and say I have never advocated for Amnesty.	是的,我想回答这个问题并说,我从来没有倡导大赦。
781	I'm not advocating for people who are undocumented immigrants to be receiving Social Security.	我不主张无证移民的人接受社会保障.
782	He says this over and over and over again, like so many things, just complete falsehoods.	他一遍又一遍地说, 就像很多事情一样, 完全是谎言。
783	Mr. Marshall, final 15 seconds on this topic.	马歇尔先生,关于这个话题的最后15秒。
784	Listen, if Republicans are in control of the Senate, we're going to solve this problem.	听着,如果共和党人控制了参议院,我们将解决这个问题.
785	If Democrats are in control, and again, control of the Senate comes through Kansas,	如果民主党控制着, 并且再次, 控制参议院通过堪萨斯州,
786	if Democrats are in control, they'll just punt it on down the road,	如果民主党人控制了局面他们就会在路边大开杀戒
787	punt the can down the road, and they're going to borrow money from your grandchildren.	把罐子往下推他们要借你孙子的钱
788	You've been in charge for the last six years.	过去六年你一直负责
789	Let's move on to immigration enforcement because that's obviously a topic worth talking about here.	我们继续研究移民执法问题吧因为这显然是一个值得讨论的议题
790	Not necessarily citizenship, but enforcement here.	不一定是公民身份而是在这里执行
791	When we talk about e-Verify, that is a free online-based system that allows employers to verify eligibility to work.	当我们谈论电子认证时,这是一个免费的在线系统,允许雇主核查工作资格。
792	It's voluntary for the most part around the country.	举全国多为自愿.
793	Mr. Marshall, should e-Verify be made a formal requirement, mandatory for businesses,	Marshall先生,如果电子认证成为一项正式要求,对企业是强制性的,
794	to minimize perhaps the kinds of things we saw in Southwest Kansas, those raids here just a couple of weeks ago?	几星期前在堪萨斯州西南部发生的袭击?
795	We have 60 seconds.	我们有60秒。
796	Yeah, I think it's a good idea.	是啊,我觉得这是一个好主意。
797	Of course, the devil's in the details.	当然,魔鬼在细节。
798	Can we make it simple enough for that to work?	我们能简单一点吗?
799	Again, all this discussion starts with the secure borders, and that's what Republicans will always give you.	再说一遍,这些讨论都是从安全边界开始的,共和党人总是会给你的.
800	Secure borders, it was just two years ago that millions of people were coming across this country and were still suffering from them.	安全边界,就在两年前,数百万人正在穿越这个国家,他们仍在遭受痛苦。
801	But now that we have secure borders, we can work on fixing this broken immigration system.	但是,现在我们有安全的边界,我们可以努力修复这个破碎的移民制度。
802	Look, half of the kids I delivered my last several years of practice,	你看,一半的孩子我送我的过去几年练习,
803	their parents, one of the parents was not documented, so we have to figure this out.	他们的父母, 其中一个父母没有文件, 所以我们必须弄清楚这一点。
804	It's not going to be easy, but we're certainly not going to have amnesty.	这不容易,但我们肯定不会得到特赦.
805	Now that we have the border secure, we can absolutely have this conversation.	现在我们有边界安全了,我们绝对可以进行这种对话。
806	But under Democrat control, under Chuck Schumer's control, we had open borders.	但在民主党的控制下,在查克·舒默的控制下,我们有开放的边界.
807	And that's what we'll go back to if my opponent is elected.	如果我的对手当选,我们就会回到这个目标。
808	We'll go back to those open borders of Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden.	我们会回到查克・舒默和乔・拜登的边界
809	So I heard you say you would consider the possibility that e-Verify would be mandatory.	我听说你会考虑电子认证是强制性的
810	Mr. Hamilton, what say you about e-Verify?	Hamilton先生,你对电子认证有什么看法?
811	Should it be mandatory to perhaps avoid the kinds of things we saw a couple of weeks ago?	是否必须避免几周前我们所看到的事情?
812	I'm going to say the same thing.	亦复如是说.
813	60 seconds.	60秒钟。
814	Yeah, I'm going to say the same thing.	是啊,我要说同样的事情。
815	I would want to look at the details.	我想看看细节。
816	I think that's important.	我认为这很重要。
817	I do find it interesting.	我觉得很有趣
818	So I'm just curious, with all of those undocumented children that you delivered, did you also call ICE and ask them to be taken away?	所以我好奇的是,你送来的那些无证儿童你是否也给ICE打电话要求将他们带走?
819	What did you do with these people?	你对这些人做了什么?
820	You had compassion for them in delivering these children, but then you support quotas.	你同情他们送孩子但你支持配额
821	They're going to have people taken away.	他们会把人带走的
822	Hutchinson, Kansas, I was there.	哈钦森,堪萨斯,我在那里。
823	There was a preschool teacher arrested in front of her children.	有一名学前教师在孩子面前被捕。
824	That's just not okay.	这可不好
825	We've militarized and politicized ICE as opposed to them doing the important job they're supposed to do, and that is protecting Americans from dangerous, dangerous people.	我们已经军事化和政治化了ICE, 而不是他们做他们应该做的重要工作, 这就是保护美国人免受危险,危险的人。
826	He says he spoke to the president after the ICE raids in the southwest part of the state.	他说他在州西南部的ICE突袭事件后与总统交谈.
827	Nine Republican state legislators also sent a letter to the president saying this is not okay.	九名共和党州议员也给总统发了一封信,表示这不行.
828	This is really harming people in the livestock industry, the dairy industry, and it doesn't reflect who we are as Americans.	这确实伤害了畜牧业,乳制品业的人们, 也没有反映出我们美国人的身份。
829	Follow-up, if I may.	后续,如果可以的话。
830	Sure, please.	当然,请。
831	However, the U.S. attorney for Kansas said those were targeted raids aimed at violent offenders and those who had skipped out on removal.	然而,美国堪萨斯州的律师说,这些袭击是针对暴力罪犯和在移送时逃脱的人的有针对性的袭击。
832	So are you suggesting that ICE should not be taking care of that?	所以你是建议 ICE 不应该处理这一点?
833	30 seconds.	30秒钟。
834	I absolutely believe they should be taking care of that.	我绝对相信他们应该照顾好
835	Unfortunately, right now where we are is people are terrified when ICE shows up because they've been militarized, politicized, and so people don't show up at work.	不幸的是,当ICE出现时,我们这里的人会很害怕, 因为他们已经被军事化,政治化, 所以人们不会出现在工作上。
836	You have 150 cattle cars coming in every day to the meatpacking plants, and people are not showing up at work, dairy as well, because they're terrified.	你们每天有150辆牛车来到肉类包装厂人们不上班奶制品因为他们很害怕
837	And our people in Kansas are decent people.	我们在堪萨斯州的人都是体面的人
838	We don't want people terrified in our communities.	我们不希望社区里的人害怕
839	Thank you, sir.	谢谢你,先生。
840	Before we move on, I want to remind folks you'll see a QR code on your screen there.	在我们继续之前,我想提醒大家,你会看到你屏幕上的QR代码。
841	You can scan that code.	你可以扫描密码
842	It will provide you a link to take you to our post-debate show, in which we hope both of the candidates will join us briefly when we wrap up here.	这将提供一个链接,带你参加我们的辩论后节目,我们希望两位候选人在结束发言时将简短地加入我们。
843	Let's move to the Middle East.	迁中书舍人.
844	Mr. Hamilton, you said the U.S. should keep providing Israel with defensive weapons, but you oppose offensive weapons.	汉密尔顿先生,你说美国应该继续向以色列提供防御武器,但你反对进攻性武器.
845	In April, your opponent helped make sure Israel was able to buy 12,000 bombs, even though Democrats in the Senate tried to block that sale.	4月,你的对手帮助确保以色列能够购买12,000枚炸弹,尽管参议院的民主党人试图阻止这一销售.
846	Would you have voted to block that sale?	你会投票阻止这次交易吗?
847	And what would Israel have to do different in your view in order to receive not just defensive weapons, but offensive weapons?	在你看来,为了不仅获得防御性武器,而且获得进攻性武器,以色列会做什么?
848	You have 60 seconds.	你有60秒时间。
849	Sure.	当然
850	So I've been to Israel 12 times.	我去过以色列12次
851	I have been both in Palestine and Israel.	我去过巴勒斯坦和以色列。
852	I care about people on both sides of this great divide.	我关心这个巨大鸿沟的两边的人.
853	But I will say when you see entire cities flatten in Gaza, now we're not just talking about rooting out Hamas, who needs to be rooted out.	但我会说,当你看到整个城市在加沙平坦的时候, 现在我们不只是在谈论根除哈马斯, 他们需要根除。
854	They are a terrible, you know, evil entity.	他们是一个可怕的,你知道的,邪恶的实体。
855	They need to be rooted out.	需要根除它们。
856	But when you talk about dropping bombs on massive population centers and seeing as many as 70,000, 75,000 people who have been killed, and you're talking lots of civilians, I think most Americans look at that and go, wait, did I do that?	但是当你谈论向大规模人口中心投下炸弹, 看到多达7万,7万5千人被炸死, 而你却在谈论许多平民时, 我认为大多数美国人都看着它,去,等等,我这样做了吗?
857	Did I provide those weapons?	这些武器是我提供的吗?
858	Now, I believe in providing a strong defense for Israel.	现在,我相信为以色列提供有力的防御。
859	They are our allies.	他们是我们的盟友。
860	But I also don't believe on our weaponry paid for with our tax money being used.	但我也不相信我们用税钱买的武器
861	And by the way, they're buying, but they're using our aid to buy our weapons and then dropping them on innocent civilians.	顺便说一句,他们正在购买,但他们利用我们的援助来购买我们的武器,然后把它们投给无辜的平民.
862	That's just not OK.	这可不好
863	It's not decent.	非正觉.
864	It's not who we are as Americans.	我们不是美国人
865	And so I don't support that.	所以我不支持这一点。
866	Thank you, sir.	谢谢你,先生。
867	Mr. Marshall, is there any action by Israel?	马歇尔先生,以色列有什么行动吗?
868	You do support offensive and defensive weapons.	你确实支持进攻和防御武器
869	Any action by Israel that would cause you to block a sale to that country?	以色列有什么行动让你阻止向该国出售吗?
870	60 seconds.	60秒钟。
871	No, I'm sure there is.	不,我敢肯定,这是。
872	But they've not I'm not sure what it would be.	但他们没有我不知道会是什么
873	But I'm sure but I'm absolutely that there would be.	但我敢肯定,但我绝对有。
874	Look, we need to remember that Israel has been one of America's greatest allies, that they are the only democracy in a very troubled, troubled area, a place that's been under battle for thousands of years, even before Christ.	听着,我们需要记住,以色列是美国最伟大的盟友之一, 他们是一个非常动荡不安的地区里唯一的民主国家, 这个地方已经战斗了几千年,甚至在基督之前。
875	This place was under siege.	这个地方被包围了
876	I don't think that we're going to solve this problem tonight.	我认为我们今晚不会解决这个问题。
877	I think we have to manage it.	我认为我们必须管理它。
878	I think we manage it is with making allies, making partners there like we're doing and and we're working together.	我认为,我们管理它与建立盟友, 使合作伙伴像我们在做什么, 我们一起工作。
879	And again, the strong piece through strength that we have to have a very strong military.	同样,强壮的一部份通过力量,我们必须有一个非常强大的军事。
880	It's just a different world over there.	那边的世界不一样了
881	I think even for someone, a novice, even to start making national security policy without all the details, I think it's really hard to do that.	我认为,即使某人,一个新手, 甚至开始制定国家安全政策没有所有的细节, 我认为真的很难做到这一点。
882	I think it's a very challenging place.	我认为这是一个非常具有挑战性的地方。
883	It's never been simple.	从来不简.
884	But I want to stay focused on America.	但我想继续专注于美国。
885	I want to make sure that our borders are secure.	我要确保我们的边界安全。
886	Let's take care of things at home first and make this our big priority.	我们先把家里的事情处理好把这作为我们的首要任务
887	Let's move on to an issue surrounding Title IX.	我们继续讨论第九篇
888	It's become a cultural issue, in fact.	事实上,这已成为一个文化问题。
889	But first, real quick, 15 second answer or less.	但首先,真正的快速, 15秒或更少的答案。
890	Mr. Marshall, how many genders are there?	马歇尔先生,有多少性别?
891	Well, there's two.	嗯,有两个。
892	There's a boy and there's a girl.	有男有女. 师曰.
893	I delivered five thousand of them and almost half are boys and half are girls.	我接生了五千个,几乎一半是男孩,一半是女孩。
894	Mr. Hamilton, I'll ask you that same question.	汉密尔顿先生我也会问你同样的问题
895	How many genders are there?	有多少性别?
896	There are two genders, male and female.	男女有二.
897	Thank you, sir.	谢谢你,先生。
898	Now, Mr. Marshall, you've supported making eligibility for girls and women's sports depend on biological sex at birth.	现在,马歇尔先生,你已经支持使资格女孩和妇女的体育运动取决于生物性别出生时。
899	Who should verify that?	谁来核实?
900	And what should a school be allowed to require as proof of that?	学校需要什么作为证据?
901	And how would you enforce that rule?	那你打算怎么执行这个规则?
902	You have 60 seconds.	你有60秒时间。
903	Well, we certainly don't want the federal government to sort this out.	我们当然不想让联邦政府解决这件事
904	I would think that the Kansas Athletic Association can figure this out much better than we can.	我想堪萨斯运动员协会能比我们更了解这件事
905	And if they want to go to the trouble of anatomical examination or checking chromosomes, just by swabbing their cheek,	如果他们想去解剖检查或检查染色体的麻烦, 只是通过擦拭他们的颊部,
906	I think if someone's in question, they could do something as simple as that to check their DNA.	我想如果有人有问题他们可以做一些简单的事情来检查他们的DNA
907	All right.	好吧,我们走。
908	Mr. Hamilton, on October 11th, you told ABC News this.	汉密尔顿先生,10月11日, 你告诉ABC新闻。
909	I don't believe that men should be competing in women's sports.	我不相信男人应该参加女子运动比赛.
910	Your opponent, of course, backed legislation that he says would keep boys out of girls' sports by basically threatening federal funding under Title IX.	当然,你的对手支持他所说的立法会让男孩们不参加女孩的运动, 基本上威胁联邦资金第九编。
911	Would you vote for that requirement in order to keep men out of or boys out of girls' sports?	你是否愿意投票支持这一要求,以使男子不参加女子运动或男孩不参加女子运动?
912	Or should local organizations be determining that issue?	还是应由地方组织来决定这个问题?
913	60 seconds.	60秒钟。
914	Yeah, I think local organizations should be determining that issue.	是的,我认为地方组织应该决定这个问题。
915	And I want to say I have a 12-year-old granddaughter.	我想说我有一个12岁的孙女。
916	I don't want biological men or boys competing against her.	我不想让生化人或男孩跟她竞争
917	That could harm her.	这可能会伤害她。
918	It's not a fair fight.	这是不公平的战斗。
919	And even though my opponent says the opposite of this over, really ad nauseum about me, but that is my position.	尽管我的对手说与此相反, 真的很恶心我, 但我的立场。
920	But I think it's more local rather than the federal government getting involved in, whether it's suing schools or school districts,	但我认为,更多的是地方而不是联邦政府介入, 无论是起诉学校还是校区,
921	as sometimes they're inclined to do right now.	有时他们现在也想这么做
922	Follow-up question, same subject.	后续问题同一主题
923	Mr. Marshall, would you allow the rule that you support to apply at every age or would you make exceptions for older student athletes?	马歇尔先生,你会允许你支持的规则在每个年龄适用还是你会为年长的学生运动员破例?
924	How would you approach that?	你会怎么接近?
925	30 seconds.	30秒钟。
926	Gosh.	天呐
927	Again, I think we better leave that at the local level.	我再次认为,我们最好将这一点留在地方一级。
928	Certainly before puberty, you could make a case that girls don't – girls may have even been advantaged before puberty.	当然,在青春期之前,你可以证明女孩不会 — — 女孩甚至可能在青春期之前处于优势地位。
929	But I think by the time they're in high school that boys need to be in boys' sport, girls in girls' sports.	但我认为当他们上高中的时候男孩需要参加男孩的运动女孩需要参加女孩的运动
930	And again, the Democrat Party under Chuck Schumer, they keep pushing these transgender ideology upon us.	恰克·舒默手下的民主党一直把变性人的思想推向我们
931	And Kansans don't want that.	坎桑斯也不想这样
932	If he's elected, Chuck Schumer controls the Senate.	如果他当选,查克·舒默控制参议院.
933	And this is exactly what we're going to get.	这就是我们要得到的。
934	He's going to say he's going to vote against these things, but every Democrat stands up.	他会说他会投票反对这些事情,但每个民主党人都站起来.
935	And when Schumer tells them to jump, they say how high.	当舒默叫他们跳的时候,他们说跳得有多高.
936	So why is he going to be any different once he gets to Washington?	那他去华盛顿后怎么会有什么不同?
937	He could tell us one thing, but let's see what his actions would be like.	他可以告诉我们一件事, 但让我们看看他的行动会是什么样子。
938	Mr. Hamilton, I'll allow you to follow up with that.	汉密尔顿先生,我允许你跟进
939	And then if you would also answer the question, would you make age difference exceptions?	如果你也回答这个问题你会把年龄差异作为例外吗?
940	30 seconds.	30秒钟。
941	Yeah, I don't know about age difference exceptions.	是啊,我不知道年龄差异例外。
942	I need to see more about that.	我需要看到更多关于这一点。
943	But here's what I can say is we've heard Chuck Schumer mentioned, I don't know, 50 times.	但是,我可以说,我们已经听到查克舒默提到, 我不知道,50次。
944	Maybe – I'm going to exaggerate.	也许,我会夸张。
945	Maybe 20 times so far.	也许到目前为止有20次了
946	I find that interesting.	我觉得很有趣。
947	I've already said I wouldn't support Chuck Schumer for the Senate majority leader if the Democrats to control the Senate.	我已经说过,如果民主党控制参议院,我不会支持查克·舒默为参议院多数党领袖.
948	But here's what I do want to say is, as my opponent has made this into a big issue – now, I was taught and I've preached for years, love your neighbors, you love yourself.	但我想说的是,正如我的对手已经把这个问题变成一个大问题一样——现在,我被教导了,我传教了多年,爱你的邻居,你爱自己.
949	I know what that looks like.	我知道这看起来像什么
950	That looks like caring for people who are, you know, picked on and bullied.	这看起来像在照顾那些被挑剔和欺负的人。
951	And I feel like my opponent, he's taken an issue picking on people, bullying people.	我觉得像我的对手他喜欢挑剔人欺负人
952	I don't think that's okay.	我不认为这没关系。
953	That's not who we are as Kansans.	我们不是干山人
954	Let's move on now to health care, because that's obviously important to all Kansans.	我们继续看医疗吧因为这显然对所有坎桑人都很重要
955	Nationwide, we're hearing enrollment in the government's Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, as many refer to it, dropped by nearly 5 million from 2025 to 2026.	从2025年到2026年,全国范围内, 我们听到政府“负担得起的护理法案”的注册人数, 或者说,奥巴马护理,很多人都提到过,
956	Just over 36,000 Kansans were among them, dropping their coverage.	刚刚超过36000名坎桑人中,
957	Higher premiums cited as one of the main reasons.	较高的保险费被列为主要原因之一。
958	According to the KFF Peterson tracker, Kansas rates for premiums are rising by more than 17 percent.	根据KFF彼得森追踪器,堪萨斯州的保费上涨了17%以上.
959	And a key factor is the expiration of those federal tax credits in 2025.	一个关键因素是这些联邦税收抵免在2025年到期。
960	Mr. Hamilton, you support extending those tax credits.	汉密尔顿先生,你支持延长这些税收减免。
961	The Congressional Budget Office, nonpartisan, says that would add $350 billion to the federal deficit over a 10-year period.	国会预算办公室无党派人士表示,在10年时间内,联邦赤字将增加3500亿美元.
962	How would you make up for that lost revenue?	你怎么弥补那损失的收入?
963	60 seconds.	60秒钟。
964	Sure, absolutely.	当然可以
965	This is critical.	这一点至关重要。
966	So I was in Hutchinson, Kansas.	我在堪萨斯州的哈钦森
967	A woman comes to me and she says, I'm one of those people who lost my health insurance.	有个女人来找我说我是失去医疗保险的人之一
968	She said, after the subsidies went away, she's a working person.	她说,补贴走后,她是一个工人。
969	She's not on welfare.	她没有在福利。
970	$2,700 a month became her health insurance premium.	每月2700美元成为她的医疗保险费.
971	She said, I had to decide between my house or my health insurance.	她说,我必须在我的房子和医疗保险之间做出决定。
972	This is just not right.	这是不对的。
973	We have to solve health insurance.	我们必须解决医疗保险问题。
974	We've got to solve for this.	我们必须解决这个问题。
975	But right now, we've got an interim period of time where we've got to be able to make sure people can afford to buy health insurance.	但是,现在,我们有一个过渡时期,我们必须能够确保人们买得起健康保险.
976	It's more than 36,000 people have lost health insurance in the city of Kansas, we think, today.	我们认为,今天堪萨斯市有超过36 000人失去了医疗保险。
977	Closer to 50,000 people, when you take the Medicaid, folks are lost as a result of Medicaid.	接近5万人,当你接受医疗补助时,人们会因为医疗补助而损失.
978	And so looking at that and saying that's like one in 60 people in the state of Kansas who had health insurance a year and a half ago don't have it today.	所以看这个,说这就像堪萨斯州每60人中就有一人一年半前有医疗保险,今天没有医疗保险。
979	When my opponent, Roger Marshall, a doctor, voted to take away those health benefits from people.	当我的对手Roger Marshall,一位医生, 投票决定从人们身上夺走这些健康利益。
980	That's not OK.	这不好。
981	We have got to do better than that.	我们必须做得更好。
982	So I'm saying we've got to roll those subsidies back in and then we've got to bring together Republicans and Democrats to really solve for health care long term.	所以我要说,我们必须把这些补贴放回原位然后再召集共和党和民主党人真正解决长期保健问题
983	Again, my opponent talks about it, hasn't done it.	再说一次,我的对手谈论它,还没有做到这一点。
984	With all due respect, you didn't answer my question, though.	恕我直言你没回答我的问题
985	If over 10 years, $350 billion is lost, how do you replace that?	如果超过10年,损失3500亿美元,你如何取代呢?
986	So $35 billion a year.	所以每年有350亿美元。
987	I just want to just keep in mind the president offered to pay people, voters, $5,000 a piece to reelect Roger Marshall.	我只想记住,总统提出给人民,选民, 5千元一块来重新选举罗杰·马歇尔。
988	That's not my question.	这不是我的问题。
989	No, no, no.	不,不,没有。
990	Hold on.	坚持住。
991	And he was going to spend a trillion dollars to do that.	他打算花一万亿去这样做。
992	That was going to cost a trillion dollars.	那要花费一万亿美元。
993	We're talking $350 billion over 10 years in order to help people have their health insurance.	我们说的是10年里3500亿美元为了帮助人们获得他们的健康保险
994	Listen, there's other ways we can cut.	听着,我们还有别的办法
995	But we got to do we got to do better by our people.	但我们必须做我们的人民必须做得更好。
996	And so you would you would cut to make what I would like to see.	所以,你会切做我想看到的。
997	Yeah, let me ask you this quick fall or I would take it from the trillion dollars that the president was going to spend to bribe Americans to vote for Roger Marshall and others.	是的,我问你这个速降... ...或者我会把它从万亿美元... ...总统打算用来贿赂美国人...
998	The follow up for you would be do you support Medicare for all universal health insurance?	接下来你会支持所有全民健康保险的医疗保险吗?
999	Is that universal access to a basic level of health care?	普遍获得基本水平的保健服务吗?
1000	I don't believe Medicare for all is going to be the thing that's going to get that done.	我不相信所有的人都能得到医疗保障
1001	But I think everybody in America should have a basic access.	但我认为美国每个人都应该有一个基本的通道。
1002	And the answer can't be go to the emergency room, which is, I think, Roger Marshall's answer.	而答案不能是去急诊室, 我认为,这是罗杰马歇尔的答案。
1003	We've got to figure out a better way so that every person in America has has access to basic levels of health care so that they can afford to pay for their treatment and they aren't being sued by their doctors when they don't get paid.	我们必须想出更好的方法,让美国每个人都能获得基本水平的医疗保健,这样他们就能够支付治疗费用,而且他们得不到报酬时不会被医生起诉.
1004	Thank you, sir.	谢谢你,先生。
1005	Mr. Marshall, you voted for the one big, beautiful bill, which, of course, did not extend those tax credits.	马歇尔先生,你投了票一个大,美丽的法案, 当然,它没有延长这些税收抵免。
1006	They were covid-19 subsidies.	这些补贴是共同的19项补贴。
1007	You say you do want affordable access to health care as a doctor yourself.	你说你希望自己能以医生的身份获得负担得起的医疗服务
1008	So specifics here, what would you propose to provide that access?	具体到这里,你有什么建议提供访问?
1009	How would you pay for it?	你会怎么付钱?
1010	60 seconds.	60秒钟。
1011	Look, I'm already doing it.	你看,我已经做到这一点。
1012	This is something Bernie Sanders and I worked very well together on that we've expanded community health centers.	伯尼·桑德斯和我合作得很好我们扩大了社区保健中心
1013	We've commanded expanded behavioral health centers.	我们已经指挥了扩大的行为保健中心。
1014	We brought in two hundred and twenty million dollars for a rural health transformation fund.	我们带来了两亿二千万元用于农村卫生改革基金。
1015	We've added one point three billion dollars for Kansas, Kansas hospitals from a Medicaid provider tax as well.	堪萨斯州,堪萨斯州的医院也从医药援助提供商的税中增加了三十亿美元
1016	So we're bringing those monies in.	所以我们要把这些钱带来
1017	I think we need to look at the real problem here.	我认为我们需要看看真正的问题。
1018	The Affordable Care Act wasn't so affordable after after all.	《负担得起的护理法》毕竟不是那么可负担的。
1019	Listen, it was written by big insurance companies and big hospitals which are printing money.	听着,这是由大保险公司和大医院写的印刷钱。
1020	And that's why they're all campaigning against me.	所以他们都反对我
1021	Look, the Democrats are bought and paid for by big insurance companies and big hospitals who wrote it.	听着,民主党人被大保险公司和大医院买下并支付费用。
1022	And again, my opponent, that would be his solution as well.	同样,我的对手,这也是他的解决办法。
1023	And eventually, Bernie Sanders and the Democrats want this Medicare for all, which really turns into Medicaid for all.	最后,伯尼·桑德斯和民主党都想要这个医疗保险, 这真的变成了所有人的医疗保险。
1024	And your health care will be diluted as well.	你的保健也会被淡化
1025	But instead, I've also got my transparency bill that forces health care providers to show you the prices up front.	但反之,我还有透明度法案, 迫使医疗保健提供者告诉你价格的正面。
1026	For the first time in 60 years, prescription drug prices are coming down again, much because of legislation I wrote to support it as well.	60年来,处方药价格第一次再次下跌,这在很大程度上是因为我写来支持它的立法。
1027	So we're doing it in so many ways.	所以我们在很多方面都这样
1028	But we cannot continue the Democrat, Obama, who was your idol.	但我们不能继续民主党,奥巴马, 他是你的偶像。
1029	You can't continue this plan.	你不能继续这个计划。
1030	We're running out of time.	时间不多了
1031	I'd love to respond, though.	我很想回应
1032	We're running out of time.	时间不多了
1033	I understand.	我理解,我懂你说什么
1034	But time flies when you're having fun.	但是当你玩得开心的时候时光飞逝
1035	Right.	对
1036	So we're going to do a couple of quick lightning round questions just to kind of lighten the mood a bit as we get to your closing statements.	所以我们要做几个快速闪电回合的问题来缓解一下你的结束语
1037	All right.	好吧,我们走。
1038	We have just enough times here.	我们这里的时间足够多了
1039	Mr. Hamilton, what streaming show are you watching right now?	汉密尔顿先生你现在在看什么节目?
1040	Oh, my gosh.	天呐
1041	You know, I don't have time to watch it.	你知道,我没有时间看它。
1042	You don't have time, right?	你没有时间,对不对?
1043	Yeah, I don't have time to watch any of them during the campaign.	竞选期间我没时间看他们
1044	Yeah, I've enjoyed Starfleet Academy.	是的,我很喜欢星舰学院。
1045	So I like sci-fi.	所以我喜欢科幻
1046	Mr. Marshall, what about you?	马歇尔先生,你呢?
1047	I don't even have streaming.	我什至没有流。
1048	I don't know what you're talking about.	师曰.
1049	It's the Chiefs for me in K-State football until KU basketball starts.	在K州橄榄球比赛开始前,我是队长
1050	Fair enough.	不错
1051	One other quick question for both of you.	你们俩还有一个问题
1052	Mr. Marshall, what's your favorite stretch of Kansas Highway?	马歇尔先生,你最喜欢的堪萨斯高速公路段是什么?
1053	Oh, gosh.	天呐
1054	I think it's 177 between Manhattan and Cassidy.	我想曼哈顿和卡西迪之间是177
1055	Same question for you.	同样的问题给你。
1056	Yeah, I think it's I-35 through the Flint Hills.	是的,我想这是我 -35 通过弗林特山。
1057	I'm telling you, I just marvel at it every time I'm there.	我告诉你,我只是惊讶它每次我在那里。
1058	One of those beautiful places on God's green earth.	上帝绿地上美丽的地方之一
1059	I agree with both of you.	我同意你们两个的看法。
1060	Let's go to closings now.	我们快关门了
1061	We appreciate you participating tonight.	我们感谢你今晚参加
1062	We did a card draw for closings.	我们画了一张卡片来收工
1063	Mr. Hamilton gets the first closing 30 seconds.	汉密尔顿先生得到了第一个关闭30秒。
1064	Sure.	当然
1065	So if you appreciate having record diesel fuel prices, 50,000 people in Kansas taken off of health care,	因此,如果你有创纪录的柴油价格, 在堪萨斯州5万人离开保健,
1066	thousands of children no longer receiving SNAP benefits,	数以千计的儿童不再领取国家儿童行动计划津贴,
1067	if you feel like it's okay to have ICE arresting people in southwest Kansas and hurting our livestock industry,	如果你觉得可以让ICE逮捕堪萨斯州西南部的人伤害我们的畜牧业
1068	if you think the tariffs are good and unpredictability chaos and corruption is okay in Washington,	如果你认为关税是好的无法预测的混乱和腐败在华盛顿是好的,
1069	then I'd say vote for Roger Marshall.	然后我会说投票给罗杰·马歇尔。
1070	If you want change, then I'd like to ask you to vote for me,	如果你想换衣服,我想请你投我一票
1071	whether you're Republican, Democrat, or independent.	不管是共和党、民主党还是独立党
1072	I will stand up for you.	我会为你挺身而出
1073	I will fight for you.	我会为你而战的
1074	And I'm going to make sure that in Washington, D.C., we're acting with decency, compassion, kindness,	我会确保,在华盛顿特区, 我们的行为正经,同情,善良,
1075	and we're doing the right thing for the people in Kansas.	我们为堪萨斯人做了正确的事情
1076	Please vote for me.	请投我一票.
1077	我网站的hamiltonforkansas.com. 请检查url=值 (帮助).
1078	Check it out.	检查出来。
1079	Mr. Marshall, your closing statement.	马歇尔先生,你的闭幕词。
1080	30 seconds.	30秒钟。
1081	Secure borders, stronger military, lower taxes.	保障边境,加强军事,降低税收.
1082	That's what Republicans stand for.	这才是共和党人的立场.
1083	Secure borders, stronger military, lower taxes.	保障边境,加强军事,降低税收.
1084	If we would lose this seat, that means Chuck Schumer controls the Senate.	如果我们失去这个席位,这意味着查克·舒默控制参议院.
1085	That means Elizabeth Warren would control the banking committee.	这意味着伊丽莎白·沃伦会控制银行委员会.
1086	Bernie Sanders would control the health care.	伯尼·桑德斯会控制医疗
1087	Cory Booker将负责Ag委员会
1088	We can't have that.	我们不能有那个。
1089	That's not what Kansas needs.	这不是堪萨斯需要的
1090	We need someone who's going to stand up, make sure that we have strong jobs, good jobs,	我们需要一个能挺身而出的人确保我们有强壮的工作和好的工作
1091	and protects our traditional Kansas values.	保护我们传统的堪萨斯价值观
1092	I'm a fifth-generation farm kid who got to live his American dream,	我是一个第五代的农场孩子谁要活他的美国梦,
1093	delivering a baby milk every day for some 25 years.	在大约25年的时间里,每天生产婴儿牛奶。
1094	Appreciate that.	谢谢
1095	Please vote.	请投票
1096	Appreciate you both being here.	感谢你们俩来到这里。
1097	Thank you for joining us tonight all across the state of Kansas.	谢谢你们今晚来堪萨斯州
1098	Don't forget to vote, and have a great rest of your debate night in Kansas.	不要忘记投票, 并有一个伟大的休息你的辩论夜晚在堪萨斯州。
1099	["In the Hall of the Mountain King"]	["山王堂内"]

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