初选之夜的投票反应伯尼·桑德斯影响力上升 | 2026.8.
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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:01 | We're about to be joined live by Senator Bernie Sanders, the very influential independent | 伯尼·桑德斯参议员即将加入我们的现场直播,他非常有影响力 |
| 0:06 | senator from Vermont. | 佛蒙特州的参议员 |
| 0:08 | Senator Sanders, we've been talking about all night because although he's an independent | 桑德斯参议员,我们聊了一整晚 因为虽然他是独立的 |
| 0:12 | senator from Vermont and has his own world as a United States senator and has for a long | 来自佛蒙特州的参议员 拥有自己的世界 作为美国参议员 并且有很长一段时间 |
| 0:18 | time, he plays an outsized role in Democratic Party politics, particularly right now. | 时间,他在民主党政治中扮演了超大的角色,尤其是现在. |
| 0:23 | Senator Bernie Sanders has endorsed a number of candidates who are running tonight who | 参议员伯尼·桑德斯 已经认可了一些候选人 今晚竞选谁 |
| 0:27 | we've been talking about already. | 我们已经谈过了 |
| 0:28 | In Missouri, for example, Senator Sanders endorsed former Congresswoman Cori Bush, who | 例如,在密苏里州,桑德斯参议员认可了前国会议员科里·布什。 |
| 0:33 | has fallen short tonight in her effort to get her seat back from Wesley Bell. | 为了从韦斯利·贝尔那里夺回她的位子 她今晚没有来 |
| 0:39 | In Michigan, Senator Sanders' endorsed candidates are running quite strong. | 在密歇根州,参议员桑德斯认可的候选人竞选相当激烈. |
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| 1 | We're about to be joined live by Senator Bernie Sanders, the very influential independent | 伯尼·桑德斯参议员即将加入我们的现场直播,他非常有影响力 |
| 2 | senator from Vermont. | 佛蒙特州的参议员 |
| 3 | Senator Sanders, we've been talking about all night because although he's an independent | 桑德斯参议员,我们聊了一整晚 因为虽然他是独立的 |
| 4 | senator from Vermont and has his own world as a United States senator and has for a long | 来自佛蒙特州的参议员 拥有自己的世界 作为美国参议员 并且有很长一段时间 |
| 5 | time, he plays an outsized role in Democratic Party politics, particularly right now. | 时间,他在民主党政治中扮演了超大的角色,尤其是现在. |
| 6 | Senator Bernie Sanders has endorsed a number of candidates who are running tonight who | 参议员伯尼·桑德斯 已经认可了一些候选人 今晚竞选谁 |
| 7 | we've been talking about already. | 我们已经谈过了 |
| 8 | In Missouri, for example, Senator Sanders endorsed former Congresswoman Cori Bush, who | 例如,在密苏里州,桑德斯参议员认可了前国会议员科里·布什。 |
| 9 | has fallen short tonight in her effort to get her seat back from Wesley Bell. | 为了从韦斯利·贝尔那里夺回她的位子 她今晚没有来 |
| 10 | In Michigan, Senator Sanders' endorsed candidates are running quite strong. | 在密歇根州,参议员桑德斯认可的候选人竞选相当激烈. |
| 11 | He's backed William Lawrence, who's running in the seventh congressional district. | 他支持威廉·劳伦斯,他在第七国会选区竞选. |
| 12 | You see the results here, William Lawrence leading right now with 44% of the vote in | 威廉·劳伦斯以44%的选票领先 |
| 13 | in that Democratic primary. | 在民主党初级。 |
| 14 | In Michigan, Senator Sanders has also backed Donovan McKinney. | 在密歇根州,参议员桑德斯也支持多诺万·麦金尼. |
| 15 | Donovan McKinney is challenging an incumbent Democratic congressman, Sharif Anadar. | 多诺万·麦金尼挑战现任民主党议员谢里夫·阿纳达尔. |
| 16 | And you see, again, very small amount of the vote in here, only 7% in, but Donovan McKinney | 你看,再次,非常小的票数 在这里,只有7%, 但多诺万麦金尼 |
| 17 | clearly at this early stage running strongly against that Democratic incumbent congressman. | 显然,在这个早期阶段, 强烈反对民主党现任议员。 |
| 18 | Senator Sanders has also, as you probably know, endorsed Democrat Abdul El-Sayed and | 正如你可能知道的那样,桑德斯参议员也认可了民主党人阿卜杜勒·赛义德和 |
| 19 | campaigned with him in the Michigan Senate primary against Haley Stevens. | 在密歇根州参议院 与他共同发起反对海莉·史蒂文斯的竞选 |
| 20 | These are the results thus far in that very closely watched Senate primary. | 这些是迄今为止在非常密切的监视下,参议院的主要结果。 |
| 21 | Look at that, 48.2 to 48.1, not a hair's breadth between them at this point with one-third | 你看,48.2到48.1, 此时他们之间没有一根毛宽 三分之一 |
| 22 | of the vote in. | 投票结果。 |
| 23 | We're going to be watching this vote very closely as it comes in. | 我们将非常密切地观看这次投票。 |
| 24 | At the moment, Senator Sanders' campaigns with these candidates and his endorsements | 目前,桑德斯参议员与这些候选人的竞选活动及其认可 |
| 25 | has put wind in the sails of these folks and has also contributed to a national narrative | 风吹向了这些人的风 也为全国的叙事做出了贡献 |
| 26 | around not only his personal influence, but the influence of his kind of politics, his | 不仅是他个人的影响 也是他那种政治的影响 |
| 27 | kinds of policy, and his kind of bottom-up campaigning. | 还有他那种自下而上的竞选 |
| 28 | Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, it's a real honor to have you with us tonight, sir, | 佛蒙特州参议员伯尼·桑德斯 很荣幸你今晚能和我们在一起 先生 |
| 29 | when I know you've got your irons in a lot of different fires. | 当我知道你有你的铁 在很多不同的火。 |
| 30 | Thank you so much for being with us. | 非常感谢你和我们在一起 |
| 31 | Thanks for having me, Rachel. | 谢谢你邀请我,瑞秋 |
| 32 | So tell us about your strategy approaching primary nights like this and this overall | 所以,告诉我们你的策略 接近初级的夜晚 像这样,和这个整体 |
| 33 | primary season, how you've chosen which candidates to get behind, and what you want the impact | 初赛季,你如何选择 哪些候选人落后, 你想要什么影响 |
| 34 | of your endorsements and your work with these candidates to be. | 以及你与这些候选人的合作 |
| 35 | Well, what I am looking for, and progressives in general are looking for, are candidates | 我所追求的 以及一般的进步者所追求的 是候选人 |
| 36 | who understand that the current economy is broken, it is rigged, that working people | 他们明白,当前的经济已经崩溃, 它被操纵,工人 |
| 37 | all over this country are at their wit's end, they're seeing the very rich getting richer | 整个国家都在他们的脑海中 他们看到富人越来越富有 |
| 38 | while they are struggling. | 在他们挣扎的时候。 |
| 39 | So first of all, we want candidates who have the guts to take on the billionaire class | 所以,首先,我们希望那些有胆量的选手 能够上亿万富翁的课 |
| 40 | that today has unprecedented economic and political power. | 今天,它拥有前所未有的经济和政治权力。 |
| 41 | Second of all, we want candidates who understand, and I think Simone was just talking about | 第二,我们需要能理解的候选人 我认为西蒙娜只是谈论 |
| 42 | this a moment ago, you're not living in a democracy when billionaires can buy elections. | 这之前,你不是生活在一个民主国家, 当亿万富翁可以购买选举。 |
| 43 | And it's not just Elon Musk spending $270 million to elect Trump or saying he's going | 不只是伊隆·穆斯克花2.7亿美元选举特朗普 或者说他要去 |
| 44 | to spend another $100 million to elect Republicans to the Congress. | 再花1亿美元选举共和党人参加国会 |
| 45 | Right now you're seeing in Michigan, and what is so extraordinary about this race right | 现在,你在密歇根州看到, 什么是如此非凡的比赛右 |
| 46 | now, Rachel, I have never seen anything like it. | 现在,瑞秋,我从来没有见过这样的事情。 |
| 47 | You're having a candidate, Abdul El-Sayed, taking on the entire national Democratic leadership, | 你有一个候选人,阿卜杜勒·赛义德, 承担整个国家民主领导, |
| 48 | the Michigan Democratic leadership, and he's taking on something like $60 million in super | 密歇根民主党的领导, 他正在承担的东西 6000万美元超级 |
| 49 | PAC funding, half of which comes from APAC. | PAC资助,其中一半来自APAC. |
| 50 | And as of right now, he is a few points ahead. | 现在,他领先了几分。 |
| 51 | We'll see what happens later on. | 等会再说吧 |
| 52 | And all of that tells me that we need candidates who have the guts to speak to the struggling | 这一切告诉我 我们需要有勇气和挣扎的人交谈的候选人 |
| 53 | of the working class of this country, stand up to billionaires, and those are the kinds | 这个国家的工人阶级, 面对亿万富翁, 而那些是类型 |
| 54 | of people we like supporting. | 我们喜欢支持的人。 |
| 55 | Senator, it's Simone. | 参议员,我是西蒙妮 |
| 56 | Good to see you. | 很高兴见到你。 |
| 57 | I am interested in your take. | 我对你那份有兴趣 |
| 58 | Obviously, there are a lot of people that have a lot of things to say about you. | 显然,有很多人 有很多关于你的事情要说。 |
| 59 | We have talked about you on this panel here tonight. | 我们今晚在这里讨论过你 |
| 60 | And there are many folks in the Democratic Party apparatus that will say, oh, but Senator | 民主党内有很多人会说,哦,但是参议员 |
| 61 | Sanders isn't a Democrat. | 桑德斯不是民主党人 |
| 62 | And I like to remind people that you have consistently, every time you ran for president, | 我想提醒大家 你一直以来 每当你竞选总统时 |
| 63 | have ran on the Democratic ticket, and you are supporting candidates that are also running | 而你们也支持竞选的候选人 |
| 64 | as Democrats. | 作为民主党人。 |
| 65 | Why have you made that decision? | 你为什么要做那个决定? |
| 66 | Why is that important, given the structure of our party apparatus? | 鉴于我们党政机关的结构,为什么这很重要? |
| 67 | Because I think this is a conversation that's going to dovetail into November. | 因为我觉得这段谈话 将会进入11月 |
| 68 | Well, I think, let's be clear. | 嗯,我想,让我们说清楚。 |
| 69 | In my view, Donald Trump is the most dangerous president in the history of this country. | 在我看来,唐纳德·特朗普是这个国家历史上最危险的总统. |
| 70 | He's an authoritarian. | 他是个独裁者 |
| 71 | He's a kleptocrat. | 他是个偷窥狂 |
| 72 | He贪 corrupt痴. | |
| 73 | He has gotten us into a horrible war, et cetera, et cetera. | 他让我们陷入一场可怕的战争,等等 |
| 74 | And my job as United States Senator is to do everything that I can to fight back against | 我作为美国参议员的职责是尽我所能 反击 |
| 75 | those disastrous policies. | 这些灾难性的政策。 |
| 76 | So that's number one. | 所以这是第一。 |
| 77 | And I'll work with anybody to stop Trump's terrible policies against working families, | 我会和任何人合作 阻止特朗普对工作家庭的可怕政策 |
| 78 | the environment, et cetera. | 环境等。 |
| 79 | But number two, when I look at what's going on in America, I see people wanting an alternative | 但第二,当我看着美国发生的事情, 我看到人们想要一个替代方案 |
| 80 | to Trump. | 给特朗普 |
| 81 | And it requires one, Simone, being more than just anti-Trump. | 西蒙尼,它需要的不仅仅是反特朗普 |
| 82 | People want to know, what are you going to do for me? | 人们想知道 你要为我做什么? |
| 83 | If you guys take control of the House and the Senate, do you have an agenda other than | 如果你们控制了众议院和参议院 你们还有别的议程吗? |
| 84 | being anti-Trump? | 是反特朗普吗? |
| 85 | And the candidates that we are supporting say, you know what? | 我们所支持的候选人说,你知道吗? |
| 86 | Health care is a human right. | 保健是一项人权。 |
| 87 | We should not be the only major country not to guarantee health care to all people. | 我们不应是唯一一个不能保障所有人获得医疗保健的大国。 |
| 88 | You know what? | 你知道吗? |
| 89 | We should raise the minimum wage to a living wage. | 我们应该把最低工资提高到维持生计的工资。 |
| 90 | We should get billionaires out of politics. | 我们应该让亿万富翁退出政治. |
| 91 | We should at a time of massive, unprecedented economic inequality today, income and wealth | 我们应该在当今经济不平等、收入和财富空前严重的时候, |
| 92 | inequality. | 不平等。 |
| 93 | Yeah, you've got to demand that the billionaires start paying their fair share of taxes. | 是的,你必须要求 亿万富翁开始支付 他们公平的份额的税收。 |
| 94 | We're the wealthiest country in the history of the world. | 我们是世界历史上最富有的国家. |
| 95 | We can provide wealth for all of our people. | 我们能够为我们所有人民提供财富。 |
| 96 | And I think out there, there's a hunger for that kind of ideology, that kind of belief | 我想,在那里,人们渴望 这种意识形态,那种信仰 |
| 97 | that as a great nation, we don't have to have the highest rate of childhood poverty of any | 作为一个伟大的国家,我们不必有 最高的童年贫困率任何 |
| 98 | major country on earth. | 地球上的大国。 |
| 99 | So what we are trying to do, Simone, is rebuild the Democratic Party and end this absurdity | 西蒙尼,我们想做的是重建民主党 结束这种荒谬 |
| 100 | of having party leadership simply going out to wealthy people, getting campaign contributions, | 党的领导权只是去 富人,获得竞选贡献, |
| 101 | hiring consultants, putting 30-second ads. | 招聘顾问,刊登30秒广告。 |
| 102 | That's not our politics. | 这不是我们的政治。 |
| 103 | Our politics is grassroots politics. | 我们的政治是基层政治。 |
| 104 | Right now in Michigan, I can tell you that El Syed has thousands and thousands and thousands | 现在在密歇根州 我可以告诉你 艾尔·赛德有成千上万的 |
| 105 | of volunteers knocking on doors, bringing new people into the political process. | 将新人带入政治进程。 |
| 106 | That's how you reform the Democratic Party, and by the way, that's how you save democracy. | 这就是你如何改革民主党,顺便说一句,这就是你如何拯救民主. |
| 107 | Senator, it's Lawrence O'Donnell. | 参议员 我是劳伦斯·奥唐纳 |
| 108 | I have a question that I'm going to frame in jest, which is, are you now or have you | 我有一个问题,我要去 陷害在笑话中, 也就是说,你是现在还是有你 |
| 109 | ever been a member of the Democratic establishment? | 曾经是民主机构的成员吗? |
| 110 | And let me just ask, Senator, I mean, are you? | 让我问问,参议员,是吗? |
| 111 | I'm not going to take the fifth on that one, Larry. | 我才不要吃那个,拉里 |
| 112 | I will not take the fifth. | 我不会拿第五个。 |
| 113 | I will answer you unequivocally, no, I have never been a member of the establishment. | 我将毫不含糊地回答你,不,我从未是该机构的成员。 |
| 114 | And what does it mean to you, Senator, what does that distinction mean to you, the Democratic | 参议员,这对你意味着什么? 对你,民主党意味着什么? |
| 115 | establishment versus wherever you are in Washington politics? | 机构与你在华盛顿的政坛? |
| 116 | You've been there for 36 years now, you've been a chairman, you've been in congressional | 你已经在那里36年了, 你是一个主席, 你一直在国会 |
| 117 | leadership. | 领导才能。 |
| 118 | You've been in those rooms. | 你去过那些房间。 |
| 119 | What is that difference between where you stand inside that building and the Democratic | 你站在那栋楼里和民主派有什么区别? |
| 120 | establishment, which apparently is mostly in control of the Democratic side of that | 民主的一方显然控制着民主的一方。 |
| 121 | building? | 楼? |
| 122 | Well, Larry, that's a very good question. | 好吧,拉里,这是一个非常好的问题。 |
| 123 | And I think the answer is both ideological. | 我认为答案是意识形态的。 |
| 124 | The Democratic leadership kind of thinks about tinkering around the edges. | 民主党的领导者 有点想在边缘修补 |
| 125 | Yeah, we got to deal with health care here a little bit. | 是啊,我们必须处理 保健在这里一点点。 |
| 126 | Maybe we should do this. | 也许我们应该这样做。 |
| 127 | Maybe we should do that. | 也许我们应该这样做。 |
| 128 | There is not an understanding that for the average American, the current system is broken. | 对于一般美国人来说,目前制度是打破的,这是没有谅解的。 |
| 129 | People don't want tinkering around the edges. | 人们不想在边缘修剪 |
| 130 | They want health care as a human right. | 他们希望保健是一项人权。 |
| 131 | They want decent wages. | 他们想要体面的工资。 |
| 132 | They want us to address the climate crisis and create millions of jobs, et cetera, et | 他们希望我们解决气候危机,创造数百万个就业机会,等等。 |
| 133 | cetera. | 诸如此类。 |
| 134 | So that is the ideological difference in terms of what we believe. | 这就是我们所相信的意识形态差异。 |
| 135 | But the other part of it, as I just mentioned, is how we look at politics. | 但是,正如我刚才提到的,它的另一部分是我们如何看待政治。 |
| 136 | I think, and you can argue with me, Lawrence, but if you're the establishment, you go out | 我想,你可以和我争论,劳伦斯 但如果你是机构,你出去 |
| 137 | to your big money people, your billionaire friends, give us money, we'll hire consultants. | 给你的大钱人,你的亿万富翁朋友, 给我们钱,我们将聘请顾问。 |
| 138 | We'll do these really good 30 second ads. | 我们会做这些非常好的30秒广告。 |
| 139 | We'll do opposition research. | 我们将做反对派研究。 |
| 140 | We'll manipulate the media. | 我们会操纵媒体 |
| 141 | That's how we do politics. | 政治就是这样的 |
| 142 | We do it very differently. | 我们做的非常不同。 |
| 143 | I mean, in Mamdani in New York is an epitome of what we do. | 我的意思是,在纽约的马姆达尼 是我们所作所为的一个缩影。 |
| 144 | A hundred thousand people out on the streets knocking on doors, taking on the Democratic | 10万人在街上敲门, 夺取民主 |
| 145 | establishment, the Republican establishment, taking on the oligarchs, and he wins an election. | 共和党的建立 接管寡头党 他赢得了选举 |
| 146 | Same thing in Colorado, same things in other districts. | 科罗拉多州也一样 其他地区也一样 |
| 147 | That is how we believe you should do politics and what the future of the Democratic Party | 我们认为你应该做政治 以及民主党的未来 |
| 148 | must be. | 必须是。 |
| 149 | Senator Bernie Sanders, independent of Vermont, your name was invoked on this broadcast many, | 参议员伯尼・桑德斯,独立于佛蒙特州, 你的名字被引用在这个广播中, |
| 150 | many, many times before we got to talk to you tonight. | 很多,很多次之前,我们今晚有 和你说话。 |
| 151 | It was only fair that we were able to bring you in live. | 我们能让你活下来是公平的 |
| 152 | Thanks for making time to be with us tonight, sir, and congratulations on our big night. | 谢谢你给我时间 今晚和我们在一起,先生, 并祝贺我们的伟大夜晚。 |
| 153 | Thank you very much, Rachel. | 谢谢你,瑞秋 |
| 154 | Take care. | 小心点 |
| 155 | Appreciate it. | 谢谢 |
| 156 | All right. | 好吧,我们走。 |
| 157 | Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. | 佛蒙特州参议员伯尼·桑德斯. |
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