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密歇根州参议院竞选辩论:赛义德vs罗杰斯 | 2026.10

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0:02It's debate week in Michigan each candidate believes.这是密歇根州的辩论周 每个候选人相信。
0:05They're the best to deliver form and on Capitol Hill他们是最好的 交付形式和在国会山
0:10Republican Mike Rogers who gave you the highest auto insurance the highest utility rates in the Midwest Democrats and Democrat共和党人迈克·罗杰斯 给了你最高的汽车保险 中西部民主党和民主党最高的公用事业费
0:18Abdul El-Sayed shouldn't be this hard to afford a tank of gas阿卜杜勒·赛义德不该这么难买到一罐汽油
0:22Shouldn't be this hard to pay your rent or your mortgage要付房租或抵押贷款 应该不难
0:25Zeroing in on the key issues that matter most to you.全力解决你最关心的关键问题
0:30It's so messed up这太乱了
0:31I don't even know what to say too high right now in the grocery store gas我什至不知道说什么 太高 现在在杂货店的煤气
0:36Common sense would be nice AI 30 see more regulations a critical seat in a battleground state常识是不错的AI 30看到更多规则 在战场状态中的关键位置
0:43Over 60% of Michiganders think the state is going in the wrong direction when they come for democracy超过60%的密歇根人认为,当他们来争取民主时,国家的方向是错误的。
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1It's debate week in Michigan each candidate believes.这是密歇根州的辩论周 每个候选人相信。
2They're the best to deliver form and on Capitol Hill他们是最好的 交付形式和在国会山
3Republican Mike Rogers who gave you the highest auto insurance the highest utility rates in the Midwest Democrats and Democrat共和党人迈克·罗杰斯 给了你最高的汽车保险 中西部民主党和民主党最高的公用事业费
4Abdul El-Sayed shouldn't be this hard to afford a tank of gas阿卜杜勒·赛义德不该这么难买到一罐汽油
5Shouldn't be this hard to pay your rent or your mortgage要付房租或抵押贷款 应该不难
6Zeroing in on the key issues that matter most to you.全力解决你最关心的关键问题
7It's so messed up这太乱了
8I don't even know what to say too high right now in the grocery store gas我什至不知道说什么 太高 现在在杂货店的煤气
9Common sense would be nice AI 30 see more regulations a critical seat in a battleground state常识是不错的AI 30看到更多规则 在战场状态中的关键位置
10Over 60% of Michiganders think the state is going in the wrong direction when they come for democracy超过60%的密歇根人认为,当他们来争取民主时,国家的方向是错误的。
11We我们
12Tonight you get to decide which candidate will get your vote今晚你可以决定哪个候选人会投票
13Good evening from the nation's capital.国府晚报.
14I'm your host Leland Vitter from News Nation我是你的主持人利兰・维特 从新闻国家
15It's debate night and the stakes are high not only for Michigan今天是辩论之夜 不仅仅是密歇根的赌注很高
16but for the country as the balance of power in the Senate takes center stage our但对于国家来说,随着参议院的权力平衡 占据了核心位置
17Moderator for tonight's debate is news 8 anchor and veteran political analyst Rick Albin今晚辩论的主持人是新闻8主播和资深政治分析师里克·阿尔宾
18The debate will air around the state stream online and across the country on News Nation这场辩论将在网上播出,
19Before we get to the questions, let's review the rules问到问题之前 先看看规矩
20You will each have 60 seconds to answer a question and follow-ups get 30 seconds a你们每人有60秒回答一个问题 后续则有30秒一
21Digital clock will turn red to alert candidates数字时钟会变红提醒候选人
22They have 10 seconds till time is up each candidate will also have 30 seconds for a closing statement他们还有10秒时间 每个候选人还有30秒时间做闭幕发言
23Now live from your local election headquarters and the wood TV studios in Grand Rapids现在现场直播 从你的地方选举总部 和大拉皮兹的木制电视工作室
24This is the final night of debate in Michigan这是密歇根州辩论的最后一晚
25Thank You Leland and welcome to News Nation viewers across the country and voters all across Michigan.感谢李兰 欢迎来到新闻国家 全国各地的观众和密歇根州的选民
26Thank you for being here谢谢你能来
27We're gonna start with the subject that will impact every single person watching我们首先要研究的话题 将影响每个观众
28Dr. L. Sayed will begin with you.L. Sayed医生会从你开始
29Would you support?你会支持吗?
30Pausing the federal gas tax and what else would you advocate doing to lower fuel prices?暂停联邦天然气税,你还主张采取什么措施来降低燃料价格?
31You have 60 seconds, sir你还有60秒,长官
32First Rick, thank you so much for having me.第一里克,谢谢你邀请我。
33Look, I'm a doctor and I'm a dad and as a dad你看,我是一个医生,我是一个爸爸,作为一个爸爸
34I know how much it cost me to fill up my gas tank我知道装满油箱要花多少钱
35It is insane这太疯狂了
36$80 $80 to fill up your gas tank and yes, I would support pausing the federal gas tax80块给你装油箱,我支持扣联邦煤气税
37But there is one thing that is actually causing this但有一件事 真正引起这个
38It's the war in Iran a war that has been cheerlead by my opponent since the beginning called it a win-win win这是伊朗战争 从一开始,我的对手就一直 称之为双赢
39I don't about you.我不关心你。
40But when I go to the gas tank, I don't feel like I'm winning但是,当我去油箱, 我不觉得 我赢了
41I don't feel like our country is winning seven months on eight months on how long is this going to last?我觉得我们的国家不会赢七个月八个月,
42We can do so much better.我们可以做得更好。
43But here's the problem if we don't stop this war, we don't stop it now但问题是 如果我们不停止这场战争 我们就不会停止
44we're gonna continue to watch as the Iranian regime choke holds the straight of her moves making our我们将继续看着伊朗政权的扼制 她的举动的直线
45Energy prices higher and you're gonna pay for it both at the gas tank and at the grocery store高价的能源,你会支付 在油箱和杂货店
46And so we've got to end that war above and beyond pausing the gas tax因此,我们必须结束这场战争 超越了浪费天然气税
47We also have to hold the oil and gas corporations who are using this moment to profiteer us who have bought off my opponent我们还得抓住那些利用这一时刻 来从我对手手中获利的石油和天然气公司
48Accountable for what they're doing to raise our prices负责他们如何提高我们的价格
49Congressman the same question to you.议员先生也问你同样的问题
50Would you support pausing that gas tax and what else would you do to lower fuel prices?你会支持浪费煤气税吗? 还有你会做什么来降低燃料价格?
51Yeah, I've been是啊,我曾经
52pretty aggressive about saying we need a pause both on the state level and the federal level remember when it说我们要在州一级暂停 联邦一级记得什么时候
53Which will help commuters went through the democratically controlled state Senate这会帮助通勤者通过民主控制的州参议院
54They said no Republicans tried to say give drivers a break他们说没有共和党人试图说让司机休息
55I think that's really important我觉得这很重要
56The other thing we did and in talking with farmers is we need some diesel help and some diesel aggregaric我们做和农民谈话的另一件事是 我们需要一些柴油和一些柴油
57aggregarians吉普赛人
58Diesel help for us.柴油帮我们
59So I've called for a diesel rebate number one and a pause on所以我叫来一号柴油机 暂停
60Exports of diesel to give a temporary break.出口柴油以暂时中断.
61We can resume that once the war comes to an end战争一结束,我们就可以恢复
62I do believe it's going to come to an end.我相信会结束的
63We need it to come to an end我们需要结束这一切
64But I will say just a couple of things about my my opponent here但我会说我这里的对手
65His policies will raise your tax your the cost of every gallon of gasoline他的政策会提高你每加仑汽油的价格
66Number one raise your utility rates cause you提高公用费的第一
67$20,000 for a Medicare for all plan that a lot takes away private insurance from individuals20 000美元,用于医疗保险计划,很多计划取消了个人的私人保险
68It is a disaster.这是一个灾难。
69We cannot afford我们负担不起
70Abdul阿卜杜勒
71Dr. El said I want to do a follow-up with you now the United States is producing oil and gas at near a record pace艾尔医生说我想跟你们跟进 现在美国生产石油和天然气的速度接近创纪录
72But the products are traded on the international market.但产品在国际市场上进行交易。
73And of course, that's what sets the price当然,这就是定价的原因
74Should the federal government?联邦政府应该吗?
75Implement price controls on domestically produced production.对国产产品实行价格控制.
76You have 30 seconds你还有30秒
77Look, I definitely think that's that's something we should consider听着,我肯定认为这是我们应该考虑的问题
78Look, we are in an emergency when you're paying $5 gas and $8 diesel你看,我们处于一个紧急 当你支付5美元汽油和8美元柴油
79That's an emergency and I think we have a responsibility right now to make sure we do everything we can to address it这是一个紧急情况,我认为我们现在有责任 确保我们尽力解决这个问题
80But you just heard something out of my opponent.但你刚听到我对手的言语
81He said he thinks the war is going to end他说他觉得战争会结束
82He's got a direct line to the president who's making sure the war does not end and he's not using it because he's true他和总统有直接联系 他保证战争不会结束 而且他没有使用它 因为他是真的
83Let this war the entire time and this is not a when it ends.让这场战争永远结束 这不是战争结束的时候
84We need to end it我们要结束这一切
85That's what you're electing a US senator to do to stand up to Donald Trump and end the stupid war这就是你选举一位美国参议员 来对抗唐纳德·特朗普 结束这场愚蠢的战争
86Congressman follow up for you for 30 seconds议员跟随你30秒
87Would you be in favor of doing some type of price controls if these prices stay this high you have 30 seconds?如果这些价格维持在这么高的地步,你是否赞成进行某种价格控制?
88No, I think you could do it through the mechanism of which I just described and the doctor.不,我想你可以做到这一点 通过机制,我刚刚描述 和医生。
89Well, he's not really a doctor他不是真的医生
90He's says he's a physician not can't if matter of fact if somebody came into his office and he tried to treat that patient他说他是个医生 如果有人来他办公室 试图治疗那个病人的话 也不行
91He'd go to jail.他会坐牢的
92So这么说
93Listen to this guy and what he's trying to sell here today听听这家伙今天想卖什么
94You're gonna find out that this guy is not what he says he is he is actually selling the best con你会发现,这家伙不是 他说他实际上是卖 最好的骗局
95I think I've ever seen this is the first round of that and I can't wait to talk more about that我想我见过 这是第一回合 我迫不及待想多谈这个
96You were mentioned in that comment.在评论中提到了你。
97You have 30 seconds to respond你还有30秒可以回答
98You know my opponent here is gonna make this about him and about me你知道这里的对手 会为他和我做这个
99But really in the end this is about you但实际上最后,这是关于你的
100It's about whether or not you can afford your gas you can afford your groceries whether or not you can see a doctor你买不起汽油 买得起杂货 能不能看医生
101I have a medical degree from Columbia University Scott issues my credentials.我有哥伦比亚大学的医学学位 斯科特颁发我的证书。
102He could take it up with them他可以和他们讨论
103But it's not really about me.但它不是真的关于我。
104It's about whether or not you can see your doctor是关于你能否去看医生
105It's about whether or not you trust your next US Senator stand up to Trump and Trump isn't but when you've running because Donald你是否相信你的下一位美国参议员 站在特朗普一边 特朗普不是因为唐纳德才跑的
106Trump called you and asked you to run you can tell he's not gonna stand up to anybody特朗普打电话给你,叫你跑 你可以说他不会和任何人站在一起
10730 seconds to respond the move along30秒后响应移动
108Well, first of all, I'm running because in the last quarter century, we've lost 200,000 manufacturing jobs in Michigan the last eight years首先,我在跑步 因为在过去的四分之一世纪里 我们在密歇根州失去了20万个制造业岗位 在过去8年里
109We have the highest我们有最高的
110Utility rates in the Midwest highest auto insurance rates in the country now目前全国中西部地区最高的汽车保险费率的利用率
111You have to be 40 years old or the average new homeowner is 40 years old.您必须年满40岁或新房主平均年满40岁。
112Our education is now我们的教育是现在
11345th in the country.国内第45名.
114That's why I'm running my opponent everything这就是为什么我运行我的对手的一切
115He's talking about and he won't talk about how to pay for it or what he does他在说,他不会说 如何支付,他做什么
116To make sure that he's taking money out of your pocket because he can't you want you did that man为了保证他从你口袋里拿钱 因为他不想你这么做
117That was your policy这是你的政策
118NANAFTA你的政策。
119We'll come back to this我们再来讨论这个
120We'll move on right now我们马上走
121I want to talk about the trade battle between the United States and Canada what it means for Michigan jobs and Michigan prices我想谈谈美国和加拿大之间的贸易战 对密歇根州的工作和密歇根州的价格意味着什么
122Congressman Rogers a week ago.议员 罗杰斯一周前。
123You said this at a news conference near Saginaw你在Saginaw附近的记者招待会上说的
124And anytime you have that series and list of tariffs, I argue some are going to be really good for Michigan每当你拿到这一系列和关税清单, 我主张有些人会真正对密歇根州有好处。
125Some are probably not going to be good for mission.有些人可能不适合执行任务。
126So what I've said and committed to is going back所以,我说过并承诺要回去
127Working with the president to try to get rid of the ones that we can there's consensus aren't helping和总统合作 试图摆脱那些我们能达成共识的 没用的
128But just yesterday you release released a new ad that said quote here in Michigan但就在昨天 你发布了一个新的广告 在密歇根州的引用
129We know Canada is not our enemy.我们知道加拿大不是我们的敌人。
130We need to end this tariff war now我们要马上结束这场关税战争
131So in the course of a week, it seems that you've changed your tone on tariffs所以一周来 你似乎改变了对关税的语气
132Are you saying that we need to eliminate all tariffs for Canada?你是说我们需要取消对加拿大的所有关税?
133You have 60 seconds你还有60秒
134I would like to see the deal made我想看看交易结果
135I have actually called the White House this week talked to the Secretary of Commerce about getting the deal done我本周打给白宫 和商务大臣谈过要完成交易
136Canada still has some high tariffs for US goods and they did it before this started those should be eliminated加拿大仍对美国商品征收高额关税,
137There are tariffs that I think are too high and not helpful for us.我认为有些关税太高,对我们没有帮助。
138We ought to get rid of those我们应该把那些都弄掉
139So this is about getting the best deal possible.所以这是关于得到最好的交易。
140I'd like to see it end我希望它结束
141I think we need to end it and I as a matter of fact have made those phone calls this week我认为我们需要结束它 事实上我本周打过电话
142To make sure that we can get those things taken care of now again保证我们能再处理好这些事情
143Remember my opponent here wants to raise the cost of everything you touch记住我的对手想提高你触摸的一切代价
144He's for an energy carbon credit that would everything you touch your groceries getting more expensive your car more expensive他的能量碳信用 让你触摸所有杂货 让你的车更贵
145Your light and electric bill more expensive the fact that he's gonna take away your private health insurance你的电费和电费 更昂贵的事实, 他要去取你的私人健康保险
146Turn it over to the government and it would cost each family about交给政府,每个家庭都要付出代价
147$20,000 a year in new taxes.每年2万元新税.
148This is the problem.这就是问题所在。
149We've got to face我们必须面对
150Dr. L. Sayed on your website you say quoteL. 医生在你的网站上说,你说引用
151I support targeted smart tariffs that would help protect Michigan manufacturing and我支持有针对性的智能关税 帮助保护密歇根州制造业和
152Incubate the industries of the future with unions at the forefront以工会为前列,培养未来的产业
153With that said what is a Canadian tariff that you might keep you have 30.说到加拿大的关税 你可以保留30美元
154I'm sorry对不起
155You have 60 seconds one你还有60秒一
156That's actually logical unlike anything Donald Trump has ever actually done in office这和唐纳德·特朗普 在任上做过的事 完全不合逻辑
157Look, you're hearing somebody who has cheerlead again a Canadian tariff policy that we are paying你看,你听到有人 谁有啦啦队再次 加拿大关税政策 我们正在支付
158$5,600 a year for if we were serious about using tariffs每年5,600元,如果我们认真使用关税
159We would do it in the way that the UAW has advocated the UAW has advocated for smart tariffs where we actually我们这样做的方式是,乌阿联主张乌阿联主张 智能关税,我们实际上
160Hook it to an industrial policy that makes sense.把它绑在一个有道理的工业政策上.
161We're invested in high growth high manufacturing capacities我们投资在高增长 高生产能力
162And then we use tariffs to protect our own market.然后我们用关税来保护我们的市场。
163This is like everything ham-fisted chaotic这就像一切火腿的混乱
164Self-serving that Donald Trump does and the issue that is making Mike move, right?唐纳德·特朗普的自我服务 和让麦克行动的问题 对吧?
165You talked about his flip-flop你说他的翻转
166The reason he's flip-flopping has nothing to do with policy has nothing to do with your costs has everything to do with his sagging他的翻转原因与政策无关 与你的费用无关 与他的下沉无关
167Pull numbers.拉数字。
168He doesn't like the fact that this is not a pathway to power for him anymore他不喜欢这个事实 这已经不是他的权力之路了
169So all of a sudden he's reverse course突然间,他转弯了
170He's doing an ad drinking a labats and talking about the Red Wings pretending like he was not for this the entire time他正在做一个广告 喝拉发 和谈论红翼 假装他不是 这整个时间
171Be serious my god, like just be serious people deserve to know that have a leader is gonna be serious about policy认真点,上帝,像只是严肃的人 值得知道,有领导者 会是认真的政策
172We're gonna move on to health care unless you have a response.我们要继续医疗 除非你有反应
173Well, listen, he's what he's talking about a few weeks ago听着 他几周前说的就是这个
174He said I will go back and fight every one of the tariffs that have been put in place他说,我会回去和所有已经设置的关税作斗争
175Detroit diesel added a third shift because of those tariffs.由于这些关税,底特律柴油机增加了第三班.
176We have the Chevy Silverado came back to Michigan雪佛兰西拉多回来了
177huge billion dollar investment because of those tariffs we saved由于我们节省了这些关税 投资高达十亿美元
178Traverse city cherries because of those tariffs.特拉弗斯市樱桃 因为那些关税。
179He wants to undo it because he can't see past his own political他想取消,因为他看不到过去的政治
180Rhetoric we didn't change what we said is things move.瑞托里克,我们没有改变 我们说的东西是移动。
181We're trying to get it wrapped up我们想把它包起来
182We want a deal on those tariff deals.我们要就那些关税交易达成协议。
183Dr. L. Sayed 30 seconds.L医生说30秒。
184We have to move on week我们周就要搬家了
185Cowardly won't stand up until his poll numbers drop懦夫不会站起来 直到他的民意调查数字下降
186This is what you can expect from a guy who's bought off这是你对一个被收买的人的期望
187$5 million from corporations to run his previous campaigns voted to raise your prescription drug prices or to keep them high 19 times5百万从公司进行 他之前的竞选投票 提高你的处方药价格 或者保持高19倍
188He has the audacity to do an ad他有胆量做广告
189Looking at the drug prices in Canada except where he voted four times to keep you from buying the prescription drugs in Canada看着加拿大的药价 除了他投票四次 阻止你在加拿大购买处方药
190It's incoherent这是不连贯的
191The only thing he cares about is his power and going back one more time through the revolving door to make what?他唯一关心的就是他的力量 并且再次通过旋转的门 来制造什么?
19214 million dollars you made all right, you know, I can't let that stand.你赚了1400万美元,你知道, 我不能让这个站立。
193I mean, let me just tell you this我的意思是,让我告诉你
194Okay, I won't let this to him from a guy who is taking corporate PAC money好吧,我不会让他从一个家伙 谁拿公司PAC的钱
195He's snuck in the back.他偷偷溜进后面了
196他偷偷溜进Chuck Schumer的后门
197That money is raining down on him那笔钱下在他身上
198Oh, by the way, how many corporate executives Pfizer pharmaceutical no media gentlemen, Google we have to keep哦,顺便说一句,有多少企业高管 辉瑞制药 没有媒体先生们,谷歌 我们必须保持
199Two yachts made 14 million dollars telephonic is it's a corporation两艘游艇赚了1400万电话费 是一家公司
200He advised that that was helping Maduro spy on his own people.他建议说,这是为了帮助马杜罗监视自己的人民.
201How much money you make off them?你赚了多少钱?
202Can you tell us how much money you made?你能告诉我们你赚了多少钱吗?
203Can you say okay?你能说好吗?
204Yeah, is this like the deal that you cut with Wayne County where you took tax spares money to run for the United States?是的,这是你和韦恩郡的交易吗? 在那里你拿了免税钱去美国?
205They set this up.他们设下这个
206And by the way, the woman who replaced them got paid a hundred thousand dollars less顺便说一句,换了她们的女人 少了十万块
207We're going to move to health care democratic.我们要走向医疗民主.
208I do want to talk about health care我想谈谈医疗
209I know he doesn't but let's let's get we're gonna talk about health care and guys.我知道他没有,但让我们谈谈 医疗保健和男人。
210I'm gonna tell you right now我现在就告诉你
211We've got to stick to our time limits.我们必须遵守时限。
212We've got a lot to cover.我们有很多事情要做
213I appreciate your passion我欣赏你的热情
214But please let's try to keep this orderly.但是请让我们保持这个秩序。
215We're now moving to health care我们现在要转到医疗领域
216Democratic state representative Karen Whitsett said she is supporting Republican Mike Rogers in this race民主党州代表凯伦·惠特塞特说她支持共和党人迈克·罗杰斯参加这场比赛.
217Because of your Medicare for all position.因为你的医疗保险 在所有位置。
218Dr. L said her husband has employer provided health insuranceL医生说她丈夫有雇主提供医疗保险
219You will lose your health insurance if the other candidate gets an office如果另一个候选人得到办公室,你就会失去医疗保险
220There's no if-and's or buts about it.亦无如是及诸众生.
221That is what Medicare for all means这就是所有医疗保险的意义
222Dr. L said you have said additional private coverage would become redundant in your planL医生说,你说过 额外的私人保险 将会成为多余 在你的计划中
223Could families keep their private health care?家庭能否保持私人保健?
224Yes or no, you have 60 seconds是还是不是,你还有60秒
225Yes, absolutely.是的,当然。
226Absolutely Rick if families want to keep their private health insurance, that's fine by me如果家人想保私人健康保险 绝对是瑞克 我无所谓
227But for too many people if you lose a job但对于太多的人,如果你失去了工作
228if you want to lose your if you if you lose your job if如果你想失去你,如果你失去工作,如果你
229You turn 26 you get married get divorced turn 65 all ways that you can lose your health care in America你26岁,你结婚 离婚65岁,你可能失去在美国的医疗保健
230That is exactly what this guy has signed on to he voted against the ACA for God's sake这家伙就是这么投反对ACA的
231I want to guarantee every single person in this country cradle to grave coverage without premiums co-pays deductibles我要保证这个国家的每一个人 都能享受到重的保险 而不必缴纳保险费
232That doesn't have a network that does not pay a corporate CEO tens of millions of dollars a year没有一个网络不支付 公司CEO每年数千万美元
233That allows you to have the security of knowing you're not going to be one of the millions of people in this country who fall这样你就能有安全感 知道你不会是 这个国家数百万人之一 谁跌倒
234Into medical debt to the tune of 225 billion dollars contrast that with him医药债务高达2 250亿美元 与他相比
235He wants you to have to pay $50 to see a doctor he wants to continue to be big pharma's champion他要你付50块去看医生 他想继续当大药王的冠军
236He called himself big pharma's champion took more money from the pharmaceutical industry than any member of Congress more than any member of Congress他自称是大药王的冠军 从制药业拿的钱比任何国会议员都多
237In the Michigan delegation.在密歇根州代表团。
238He this is a guy who wants to do service for the corporations.他是一个想为公司服务的人
239Of course.当然
240He's gonna stand up for them他会支持他们
241Congressman Rogers staying with health care Flint physician and past president of the American Medical Association议员罗杰斯留在保健室 弗林特医生和美国医学协会前任主席
242Dr. Bobby McCullough criticized the federal health care legislation enacted last yearBobby McCullough博士批评了去年颁布的联邦卫生保健立法
243That you said would protect medicaid the cuts to federal health care programs including medicaid and chip你说会保护医疗 削减联邦医疗计划 包括医疗援助和芯片
244Will shift costs to the states and specifically to physicians and hospitals to provide将费用转移到各州,特别是由医生和医院提供
245Uncompensated care at a time when rural hospitals and physician practices are struggling to keep their doors open在农村医院和医生的执业努力打开大门之际,得不到补偿的护理
246The congressman the doctor says the changes will instead make health care less accessible医生的议员说,这些改变会减少人们获得医疗保健的机会。
247What specifically in that law leads you to say that medicaid was protected you have 60 seconds法律里的具体内容是什么让你说 医护人员受到保护 你有60秒
24850 billion dollars to rural hospitals was a good start for that, but let me just talk about this给农村医院的500亿美元是很好的开始, 但让我谈谈这个
249So when I was in congress, I actually pushed the acceleration of generic drugs所以,当我在国会, 我实际上推 加速通用药物
250Trust me the pharmaceutical company's not happy about it相信我 制药公司对此不满意
251There are two million michigan families today who are on medicare enjoying part d prescription drugs今天有两百万个米奇根家庭 享受部分处方药
252Which I did champion because there was no prescription drug coverage under medicare, which I thought was a terrible idea我当过冠军,因为没有处方药 覆盖在医疗, 我认为这是一个可怕的主意
253But what my friend here just wants to do is he's kind of like a glitchy ai chat bot但我的朋友只想做的是 他有点像一个小屁孩
254Is say the same thing over and over and over again, but let me tell you this一遍又一遍地说同样的话 但让我告诉你
255He has taken money from groups associated and support the muslim brotherhood他从联系组织那里拿钱 支持穆斯林兄弟会
256He has taken money from individuals on his campaign who openly support hamas他从公开支持Hamas的人手中拿了钱
257Hezbollah al-qaeda真主党基地组织
258他从George Soros家拿了钱
259What we found out is that this thing goes way back我们发现这件事情是很久以前的事
260Apparently they paid for his education in columbia很明显,他们为他在哥伦比亚的学业付出了代价
261Now they're paying for his campaign by the way, that's a billionaire last.顺便说一句,现在他们正在支付他的竞选费用, 这是最后一个亿万富翁。
262I checked what degree did I get out of time?我查过了,我考了几度?
263I'm going to give you a 30 second.'三○时.
264What what did he agree to get?他同意买什么?
265Did I get a columbia and I get interviewed by him as a doctor as a doctor?难道我得到了一个columbia 我接受采访 被他作为医生 作为医生?
266I understand exactly what's happening.我完全理解发生了什么
267He says I like to say the same thing他说我也一样
268He says I like to say the same thing.他说我喜欢这么说
269He's done the same thing over and over and over again他屡次做同样的事情
270You know what that is vote to keep your prescription drug prices high 19 times a million dollars alone from big pharma你知道什么是投票 让你的处方药价格 高达19倍一百万 从大药店
271Another million dollars from the health insurance corporations.医疗保险公司又付了100万美元
272Of course.当然
273He is touting their talking points他在说他们的谈话要点
274This is a guy who has not been serious about providing people health care his entire career这个人一直没有认真 为人们提供医疗 他的整个职业生涯
275What he has been serious about is making sure that he can monetize his time in public office 14 million dollars two yachts他一直认真的是确保 他能够货币化 他的时间在公职 1400万美元 两艘游艇
276A mcmansion in florida.佛罗里达的博物馆
277So at the end of the day, I i'm a doctor.所以最终,我是一个医生。
278I want people to have health care我希望人们有保健
279All right好吧,我们走
28030 seconds, let me tell how does a guy who's had less than four years of work experience30秒,让我来告诉你 一个没有四年工作经验的人是如何做到的
281Uh, who by the way on the campaign trail said he had 10呃,谁在竞选线索上说 他有10
282Oh on瓳
283Property in the united arab emirates.联合阿拉伯酋长国的财产
284He's worth a million bucks.他值一百万钱
285Somebody has to tell me how this math works总得有人告诉我这个数学是怎么工作的
286A his facts are wrong.他的事实是错误的。
287Those are lies, but he is consistently这些是谎言,但他是一贯的
288Not telling the truth.不说真话
289Well, let me just say it he's lying.让我说他在撒谎
290So he lied about being a physician所以他谎称自己是医生
291He lied now about being an egyptian citizen or not being an egyptian citizen他现在谎称自己是吉普赛公民 还是不是吉普赛公民
292I can't figure out what he is today, but this this我搞不清他今天是什么人 但这个
293Impacts what he's trying to tell you where he wants you to be.影响着他想要告诉你的 你在哪里。
294That's a con man那是个骗子
295So so look we've got to stay on time.所以看,我们得保持及时。
296I just I just want to respond to this我只是想回应这个
297You can respond to remember what I said directly he wanted to make this about him or me你可以回心转意地记住我说的话 他直接想说出他或我的事
298But the question is about you但问题是关于你
299Can you afford your gas?你买得起汽油吗?
300Can you afford your groceries under this guy who's going to rubber stamp everything donald trump tells him to rubber stamp你能买得起你的杂货吗? 这家伙要去橡皮印... ...
301We're going to continue to pay way more out the nose because he works for corporations and donald trump我们要继续支付更多的钱 鼻子,因为他为公司工作 和甜甜圈王牌
302Okay.摆
303Look here's the situation.看这里的情况
304We've got dozens of questions我们有几十个问题
305We want to get to you can't litigate all of these with 14 different rebuttals我们想要得到你 不能用14个不同的反驳来起诉所有这些
306So please work with me.所以请跟我合作
307I want you to say what you want to say我要你说你想说的话
308Do it within the body of an answer and we'll try to move along.在一个答案的躯体内做,我们会试着前进。
309Let's talk about another subject this time这次我们再谈另一个话题
310It's a viewer question and here's my colleague amber kriska with that这是一个观众问题,这里是我的同事 安伯・克里斯卡与
311Ice has been a source of controversy since president trump's second term began.自从总统的第二个任期开始以来,冰一直引起争议。
312这个问题来自Deb Morello
313My question for both candidates with regard to ice and ice agents.我向两位候选人提出有关冰和冰剂的问题。
314What is your plan?你的计划是什么?
315For holding them accountable or holding them to the same standards追究其责任或使其遵守同样的标准
316As other law enforcement officials and if the plan is to abolish ice作为其他执法人员 如果计划废除冰
317What is your plan for keeping our borders and citizens safe?你有何计划保护我们的边界和公民安全?
318Congressman rogers, you've been supportive of the president trump's议员罗杰斯,你一直支持总统的
319Immigration enforcement strategy name one instance or one circumstance in which you believe the administration went too far移民执法策略 指定一个案件或一个情况 您认为行政部门太过份
320You have 60 seconds, you know, I I think the public你有60秒,你知道, 我认为公众
321Efforts in minnesota were probably not appropriate.在minesota进行的努力可能不合适。
322I actually did fugitive raids when I was an fbi agent in chicago我在芝加哥当FBI特工时 曾搜捕过逃犯
323You always want to go in quiet get the bad guy get out of the neighborhood for less problems你总是想静静地去 让坏人离开这附近 少出问题
324So that's that to me was something that they could have done differently.对我来说 他们本可以做出不同的事情
325They made that correction.他们作了这一更正。
326They made that adjustment他们做了调整
327But it has been the largest decrease in murders但这是谋杀案减少最多的一次
328Ever recorded almost 20 across the nation why they were targeting murderers and rapists who were here illegally记录了全国近20起 凶手和强奸犯被非法杀害的原因
329Doing bad things as a matter of fact just in this town在镇上做坏事
330We had ruby garcia who was killed by an illegal immigrant who if he had not been here我们有一个红宝石加西亚 他被一个非法移民杀死 如果他没有在这里
331We'd still have ruby alive today我们今天还有红宝石
332So if you think uh about what we need to do to make sure that neighborhoods and americans are safe所以,如果你想,嗯,我们需要做什么 确保邻里和美国人的安全
333That's exactly what we need to do这正是我们需要做的
334And I would apply the same law enforcement standards to the fbi as I do the ice agents我会对联邦调查局适用同样的执法标准 就像我对冰毒特工一样
335I think they do fine doesn't mean every one of them is perfect.我认为他们做的很好 并不意味着他们每个人都是完美的。
336Dr. Elsayed.埃尔赛德医生
337You've made your position clear你的立场已经清楚了
338You want to abolish ice?你想废除冰?
339Let me give you a scenario if an undocumented让我给你一个假设 如果一个无证
340Undocumented immigrant in michigan commits a violent crime serves a sentence and has a deportation order under your system无证移民在密西根州犯下暴力罪行 服刑并持有递解出境令
341Would he be deported you have 60 seconds?他会被驱逐出境 你有60秒?
342Yes对
343But you don't have to do that by violating the whole constitution in the way that ice has been但是,你不必这样做 通过违反整个宪法的方式 冰一直
344Enabled to do by this rogue administration ice right now is not about immigration enforcement ice现在被这无赖政府冰雪 所支配的不是移民执法冰雪
345It is about terrorizing our streets.而是恐吓我们的街道。
346He's talked about what happened in minneapolis.他谈论了在明尼阿波利斯发生的事情。
347I went there我去过那里
348He said it was probably not right.他说这可能不对
349I mean definitely not right.我是说绝对不对
350They killed two people他们杀了两个人
351You can keep a safe and secure southern border你可以保有安全的南部边界
352I believe we have to keep a safe and secure southern border, which is crazy to me because my opponent我认为我们必须保持一个安全可靠的南部边界, 这对我来说是疯狂的,因为我的对手
353He voted against border funding when he was in congress and now he likes to talk about being a tough guy on the border他在国会时投了反对边境资金的票 现在他喜欢说在边境上是个硬汉
354Those are not the same thing as what ice is doing这些和冰块做的不一样
355I think we can go back to an era like ins when we we enforced immigration policy我想我们可以回到一个时代 就像我们执行移民政策的时候
356At the edge of the constitution and we respected the constitution in doing it在宪法的边缘,我们尊重宪法
357I also think we need a pathway to citizenship for folks who are stuck in limbo right now我也觉得我们需要一个途径 公民化的人 谁被困在边缘现在
358You've got this tough guy attitude to immigration.你对移民的态度很强硬
359That's not keeping us safe.这不能保证我们的安全
360In fact, it's terrorizing folks in our streets事实上,它正在恐吓我们街道上的人
361It's not funding the southern border, which needs to be kept safe南边没有经费,需要安全
362But what it is doing it's weaponizing an agency of the government at the tune of donald trump and his good但它正在做的是武器化 一个政府机构的曲调 甜甜圈的王冠和他的利益
363Congressman in the interest of a short rebuttal of 15 seconds为了15秒的简短反驳 议员们
364He talked about one of your votes when you were in congress, you know, this is really fascinating to me他提到你参加国会时的选票之一 这真的让我着迷
365He has called for open borders decriminalizing crossing the border giving illegals他呼吁开放边界,使非法入境者合法化。
366Identification and allowing them on medicare.识别并允许他们接受医疗。
367You can't get a worse plan than what you hear from abdul你不能得到比你听到的更糟的计划
368Go to stop abdul.com every one of his deleted tweets and videos are there seconds very educationalGo to stop abdul.com 每一个被删除的微博和视频都有几秒钟的教育性
369That's awesome.这是真棒。
370Good for you.对你有好处
371Uh, look at the end of the day.呃,看看今天的结束。
372I think we have to have a safe and secure southern border我认为我们必须有一个安全的南部边界
373That's why I wouldn't vote against border funding like him, but we also have to obey our constitution所以我不会像他那样投票反对边境资助 但我们也要遵守宪法
374We are a country of laws and a country of immigrants and I think we need a pathway我们是一个法律和移民的国家 我认为我们需要一条道路
375Uh to to legal immigration for folks.给人们合法移民
376Thank you both谢谢你们
377I want to turn now to the war in iran you have both indicated you want it to come to an end and we我现在想谈谈伊兰的战争 你们都表示要结束战争
378Talked about this a few minutes ago.几分钟前谈过了
379But what does that look like?但是,这看起来像什么?
380Dr医生
381El-sayed can the war in iran come to an end if the street of hormones isn't fully open and if iran has the ability如果荷尔蒙街没有完全开放 如果伊兰有能力的话
382To produce a nuclear weapon you have 60 seconds.为了生产核武器,你有60秒的时间
383I might be old-fashioned, but I believe in diplomacy我也许很老套 但我相信外交
384In fact diplomacy is what the obama administration had used to negotiate a scenario in iran where we did not have proliferation事实上,奥巴马政府曾经在伊兰谈判过一个我们没有扩散的情景。
385Of of nuclear material we were at a steady state except for donald trump在核材料中,除了甜甜圈之外,我们处于稳定状态
386Just doesn't like anything that president obama has done只是不喜欢奥巴马总统所做的一切
387So he decided to rip it up in his first term and then his second term decided to make war所以他决定在第一任就撕裂它 然后他第二任就决定开战
388That was completely unnecessary这是完全不必要的
389So I do think that we can end the war and we can actually by peaceful means diplomatically address this challenge因此,我认为我们可以结束战争,而且我们实际上可以通过和平手段,以外交方式应对这一挑战。
390But look, this is what happens when you start wars但是,你看,这是会发生 当你发动战争
391You never should be fighting你不应该打架
392We literally taught the iranian regime that they had a choke on the straight hover moose and now we're living in that reality我们从字面上教导了伊朗政权 他们被直立的徘徊的麋鹿窒息了 现在我们生活在现实中
393But that's what happens when you've got a ridiculous leader like donald trump who does not know what he's doing and jumped into this war但当一个可笑的领袖,像唐纳德 征服谁不知道他在做什么,跳进这场战争时, 就会这样
394For god knows what reason and the whole time my opponent backstopped it win win win.因为上帝知道是什么原因 我的对手一直支持它 赢得了胜利
395Are you winning?你赢了吗?
396Are we winning is anyone actually winning?我们赢了吗 有人赢了吗?
397That's the kind of policy you're going to get from a guy who wants to be a sock puppet for the trump administration这就是你所要从一个 想要成为超级傀儡的人身上得到的政策
398No thinking no thought whatever donald trump says jump.没有想到什么 甜甜圈会说跳。
399He says how high他说有多高
400i'm going to give you 10 seconds and once again the question can there be an end to the war if the strait is not open and我要给你10秒 如果海峡没有打开 问题就会结束
401If iran has the ability to produce a nuclear weapon 10 seconds with a yes or no, please如果Iran有能力生产核武器 10秒,请回答是或否
402Yes, and we do that at the edge of diplomacy rather than war that's raising our gas prices and our grocery rates是的,我们是在外交的边缘 而不是战争的边缘 提高我们的气价和杂货价格
403congressman rogers same question to you you议员们也问你同样的问题
404Every both of you have said you'd like to see this war come to an end你们都说想看战争结束
405But if the straits aren't open and if iran has the ability to possess a nuclear weapon但如果海峡没有打开 如果伊兰有能力拥有核武器
406Can you have an end of the war 60 seconds?你能结束60秒的战争吗?
407Well, I this is why i've called to an end of the war that militarily they have set back the nuclear program at least 20 years所以我才呼吁结束战争 他们军事上至少20年 使核子计划倒退
408They've decimated their army navy their air force他们摧毁了军队 海军和空军
409They still have some limited capability to inflict harm on their neighbors.他们伤害邻居的能力仍然有限。
410So you you this would be the time to wrap it up所以,你,这是时间 结束它
411That was the stated intent, but this is I think the issue that is the maybe the most important my opponent here这是公开表达的意向,但是我认为,这个问题可能是我在这里的对手最重要的.
412将不谴责 irgc
413Which today is hanging two 19 year old kids for saying that they want freedom in their homeland今天吊死两个19岁的孩子 因为他们想在家乡自由
414This is the same irgc that has killed american troops这跟杀死美军的一样
415Uh in iraq it has blood on their hands try to terrorist attack here in the united states在伊拉克,他们手上沾满了血 试图在美国进行恐怖袭击
416If you can't condemn the irgc you have no business in the united state senate如果你不能谴责这个恶行 你和联合州参议院无关
417And if you think about why you know his supporters?如果你想到你为什么认识他的支持者?
418Uh funnel money through the from a group that supports the muslim brotherhood从一个支持穆斯林兄弟会的团体那里输钱
419This is a huge problem and that is an ideological problem that we cannot allow to walk into the united states quickly in 10 seconds这是一个巨大的问题,这是一个意识形态问题,我们不能允许在10秒内迅速进入美国.
420Can the war be ended if the straits are not open and if iran can?如果海峡没有开放,如果伊兰可以,战争能否结束?
421Produce a nuclear weapon生产核武器
422Well, no, it can't if they have a nuclear weapon好吧,不,不能 如果他们有核武器
423But the all of the information is they do not have that capability any longer但所有的信息是 他们不再有这种能力
424So, I mean that's you're asking a question of a hypothetical所以,我的意思是,这是你问 一个假设的问题
425The information that is available says that they're they've been set back 20 years现有资料显示他们已经倒退了20年
426So I just want to say he's been cheerleading this war for the better part of 20 years所以我只想说他在这场战争中 领导了20年
427And I will condemn any any use of force against a domestic population abroad我将谴责任何对国外国内人口使用武力的行为。
428That's not hard to do这不难做
429But I also condemn a war we shouldn't be fighting because here we are fighting this stupid war because people like him have been pushing for it但我也谴责一场我们不应该打仗的战争 因为像他这样的人一直在推动这场战争
430For 20 years when you've got an international problem.20年来你遇到国际问题
431He's got a war for that.他为此开战.
432That's his approach every single situation iraq这是他的方法 每个情况伊拉克
433And what other wars is he going to cheerlead?他还会打什么仗?
434That is dangerous.这是危险的。
435We cannot have that.我们不能有。
436All right好吧,我们走
437Can I tell you what's dangerous?我可以告诉你什么是危险的吗?
438This is important 15 seconds, please这很重要,请15秒
439He can't condemn a terrorist act that happened on our soil in the state of michigan他不能谴责发生在我们国土上的恐怖行动 在米契根州发生
440He can't bring himself to condemn.他不能自责
441I did condemn it and you know, oh you did not like you absolutely did not我谴责了,你知道, 哦,你不喜欢你绝对不
442Talking about making stuff up.说到编剧
443I literally can this guy can't condemn it.我从字面上说,这家伙不能谴责它。
444He can't condemn hamas他不能谴责哈玛斯
445He can't condemn the muslim brotherhood.他不能谴责穆斯林兄弟会
446He says his home is egypt.他说他的家好漂亮
447This is all stars这都是星星
448We are going to move along we continue我们要继续前进
449To continue this conversation in the second half.在下半段继续这种对话.
450He does own a home in florida.他在佛罗里达有家
451I just he took it off the market我只是他把它从市场上拿走了
452I don't know for why he just take it off his home in the united arab.我不知道他为什么要把它从 阿拉伯联合体的家中拿走
453We're done我们完了
454Emmer staying in the middle east congressman rogers in the united states not in michigan my guy埃默留在美国中东部的国会议员 收到,不是在密西根
455I'd like to be part of the debate too.我也想参加辩论
456So let's do this.因此,让我们做到这一点。
457We'll stay in the middle east congressman rogers我们留在中东部的国会议员 收到
458You have pledged unconditional support for israel's right to defend herself你保证无条件支持伊斯雷尔的自卫权
459Is there any action by the israeli government that would cause you not to support sending u.sIsraeli政府有没有任何行动 让你不支持派遣U.s.
460military assistance军事援助
461You have 60 seconds你还有60秒
462Pretty hypothetical question.假设性的问题
463I support uh我赞成,呃...
464Just staunchly their right to exist the right to exist for the jewish state and the right to defend itself in a very只要他们有权生存 犹太国家有权生存 有权自卫
465Difficult neighborhood and if you think about why my opponent is so wrong on all of this街坊困难,如果你考虑一下 为什么我的对手对这一切如此错误
466His biggest funders his biggest funders他最大的资助者 他最大的资助者
467Uh are from a group that supports the muslim brotherhood.是支持穆斯林兄弟会的
468He gets money from people who support openly hamas他从公开支持Hamas的人那里得到钱
469hesbala伊斯巴拉语Name
470al-qaeda基地组织
471His family was even included in those discussions他的家人甚至都参与了这些讨论
472Listen, this is the most important thing that we do when we go back to washington is keep america safe听着,这是最重要的事情,我们做 当我们回到沃顿 是保持美国的安全
473I wore the uniform of the united states of america我穿着美国军服
474Was a special agent with the fbi to keep america safe是FBI的特工 保护美国的安全
475These are the most important issues the prattling and repetition of his argument这些是最重要的问题 他的论调 和重复
476Does not solve the dismantling of terrorist network that america demands got 10 seconds不解决摧毁美国要求10秒的恐怖网络
477Is there anything israel could do that would lose your support?有没有什么异教徒可以做的 将会失去你的支持?
478Listen if they're talking about using nuclear weapons, I'd I would they would definitely lose my support.听着,如果他们在谈论使用核武器, 我会希望他们绝对会失去我的支持。
479I've never heard him say that though我从来没听过他这么说
480Dr医生
481Elsayed you have opposed direct us military funding to israel艾尔萨德 你反对我们用军费资助岛
482But if israel were attacked tomorrow iran or another state actor但是如果明天Iran或另一个州演员被袭击
483Would you vote to provide defensive weapons necessary to protect the israeli people?你会投票提供防守武器 保护伊雷利人吗?
484Yes, or no, and you have 60 seconds to explain是或不是,你还有60秒可以解释
485I've been absolutely clear.我已经说得很清楚了
486I want our tax dollars spent here to provide schools here and by here我要我们在这里花的税钱 提供这里和这里的学校
487I mean michigan out florida我是说在佛罗里达外的密西根
488I want to make sure we've got good schools here and health care here我想确定我们这里有好学校 和医疗
489I want to make sure that we are taking care of people here.我要确保我们照顾这里的人。
490That is my priority这是我的优先
491You know you asked a hypothetical question about being attacked by iran, but let's be honest about what happened here你知道你问了一个假设的问题 关于被伊兰攻击, 但让我们说实话 发生了什么事在这里
492Israel has pushed us to go to war in iran and of course my colleague who thinks there's a war for everything以色列推动我们在伊兰开战 当然还有我的同事 他们认为一切都有战争
493Went right along with it and here we are israel had clear war aims随它而来,这里我们是爱尔兰人 有明确的战争目标
494They wanted us to go to war with them and their war aims were what the annexation of southern lebanon他们想要我们跟他们开战 他们的战争目标是吞并南莱班农
495Ask yourself are we safer because of that war he wants unconditional support for a foreign government问问你自己,我们安全吗? 因为那场战争,他想要无条件支持外国政府
496I want unconditional support for kids in our schools unconditional support for our health care child care things that he would vote我要无条件支持我们学校里的孩子 无条件支持我们的医疗照顾 儿童的事情,他会投票
497To defund so it's just inconsistent to me to be running for senate from michigan when you're more focused on what's happening为了退钱,所以我无法从密西根州竞选参议员 当你更专注于事情发生时
498To a foreign government than you are focused on what's happening to folks right here in michigan对一个外国政府来说 比你更重视的是 发生在这里的米契根人
499It's just it's just not serious.这只是它只是不严重。
500Uh, if there was attack, would you provide defensive weapons for israel?呃,如果有攻击, 你会提供防御武器 对于岛?
501I don't want our tax dollars buying weapons for other countries.我不想让我们的税金 买武器给其他国家。
502I don't know what's so hard about that.我不知道这有什么难的。
503That's a no这是不
504I'll answer the question.我来回答这个问题。
505Absolutely.当然
506He won't他不会的
507He will not matter of fact, he would not even support.他不会的,他甚至不会支持。
508I don't want to support a foreign government我不想支持外国政府
509We wouldn't even support the iron dome, which we cannot do this for every question我们甚至不支持铁穹, 我们无法为每一个问题做到这一点
510Dr.医生
511El-sayed our next question addresses concerns from some in the jewish communityEl -said我们的下一个问题 解决一些犹太人社区的关注
512About your position on israel a supporter told news nations关于你在岛的立场 一个支持者告诉了新闻国家
513Leland viddard at a rally that israel is a bigger problem a bigger threatLeland Viddard在一次爱尔兰集会上 是一个更大的问题 一个更大的威胁
514I should say to the united states than iran lil then ask you我应该对美国说 比Iran lil然后问你
515Which country you consider the greater threat to the united states and here's part of your response你认为哪个国家对美国构成更大的威胁 以及你的反应
516You're going to be a senator.你要当参议员了
517What do you view as the biggest threat?你认为最大的威胁是什么?
518I've been more than extremely clear about this我一直非常清楚这一点
519I don't want our tax dollars being used to subsidize war abroad我不想用我们的税钱来补贴国外的战争
520I don't want our tax dollars being used to fund unconditionally foreign militaries我不想用我们的税金 无条件资助外国军队
521I think it's important that we be the first among equals to enforce international law against any and every country that breaks it我认为,重要的是,我们是第一个对破坏国际法的国家执行国际法的平等的。
522So this is sort of like hypothetical who's a bigger threat is a dumb question.所以,这有点像假设 谁是一个更大的威胁是一个愚蠢的问题。
523Sorry对不起
524Dr.医生
525El -said we didn't quite we got the part that you thought it is dumb, but we didn't understand or. 艾尔说我们并没有得到你觉得那很蠢的部分 但我们不明白
526Kind of get to that answer说到答案
527So i'm going to ask you again tonight.所以我今晚再问你一次
528Who do you think is a bigger threat to the united states israel or iran?你认为谁对美国岛屿或伊兰构成更大的威胁?
529You have 60 seconds and again rick你还有60秒又来了
530I'm just going to say that that's a ridiculous hypothetical because here's what's happening right now我只是要说,这是一个荒谬的假设 因为现在发生的情况
531our我们
532Ostensible ally in israel has lobbied us to go to war伊斯雷尔的好友游说我们去打仗
533with iran与伊兰
534We have watched as iran has responded by bombing all kinds of countries in the middle east我们目睹了伊兰的反击 轰炸了中东部的所有国家
535And then choking off the world's energy supply然后窒息世界能源供应
536So this is a situation in which I don't think we should be a part所以,这种情况,我认为我们不应该参与
537I don't want to be pushed into war by israel and I don't want to be in a war with iran我不想被伊兰推入战争 我不想和伊兰开战
538I want our money spent here to buy schools and health care and child care here我要我们在这里花的钱 买学校, 医疗保健和儿童保育在这里
539I don't understand why that is so inconceivable我不明白为什么这么不可思议
540Now i've got a guy to my leftover here who thinks that the best use of our money is to go fight wars abroad现在,我有一个家伙 我的剩饭在这里,谁认为 最好的利用我们的钱 是去国外打仗
541What has that given us?这给我们带来了什么?
542It's part of the reason why why he was in congress这是他为什么参加国会的原因之一
54312 trillion dollars the national debt blew up because he's never seen a war.12万亿元国债爆炸 因为他从未见过战争
544He didn't want us fighting他不想我们打架
545So I don't consider an ally a country that takes us to wars所以我不认为同盟国是带我们去打仗的国家
546We don't need to fight and I don't want to be fighting wars.我们不需要打仗 我不想打仗
547We don't need to fight我们不需要打架
548I just think that makes both of them kind of dangerous我只是觉得他们俩都很危险
549我会问最后一次 Israel或Iran。
550That's a red again a ridiculous question又是红的 荒谬的问题
551I think both of them have proven dangerous in their own way one at risk of attacking us one我想他们俩都已经证明自己有危险 有可能攻击我们
552Getting us into wars.让我们陷入战争。
553We have no business fighting.我们没有生意争吵。
554Thank you congressman rogers axios reported that your allies ask apac not谢谢你的议员 罗杰斯·阿克索斯报告说 你的盟友要求不要
555To advertise on your behalf and axios also reported that you talked with the chair of apac为了代表你和Axios做广告 也报告说你和Apace主席谈过了
556And the next day they discontinued an ad on your behalf第二天他们停止了代表你的广告
557Do you welcome apex public support given that you do support many pro israeli positions you have 60 seconds您是否欢迎最高公众支持, 因为您确实支持许多 亲伊斯拉埃利的职位 您有60秒
558Anybody that wants to help my campaign stop a guy who can't condemn terrorism in our own country谁想帮助我的竞选 阻止一个不能谴责 恐怖主义的人 在我们自己的国家
559Because he's so close to the people who are supporting the muslim brotherhood again that i'll take all of that help因为他和那些支持穆斯林兄弟会的人很亲近 所以我会接受所有的帮助
560And matter of fact, I I think he's a little concerned about the two properties he owns united arab emirates事实上,我想他有点担心 他拥有两个财产 阿拉伯酋长国
561I think the other one is egypt if i'm not mistaken.如果我没搞错,那另一只就很好了
562Can you correct me?你能纠正我吗?
563Where's the other one?另一个呢?
564Yeah, no, uh-huh是啊,没有,嗯哼
565Yeah, that's exactly right.对,没错
566He doesn't want to talk about seven million dollars in florida my guy他不想在佛罗里达谈七百万
567Yeah, i'll talk about you know what did you sell your yachts?是啊,我会说你知道 你卖了什么游艇?
568I never owned a yacht in florida brother.我在佛罗里达从没有过游艇
569Oh, really?是吗?
570Where's your yacht?你们的游艇呢?
571You had two of them.你有两个
572Let me tell you this one thing让我告诉你一件事
573今天或昨天是 october 7.
574This is why you should get absolutely angry所以你才应该生气
575He could not bring himself to even acknowledge the pain the terrorism the rape the murders他甚至无法承认恐怖主义的痛苦 强奸和谋杀
576Cutting off of women's breasts putting children in ovens and killing them in front of their families could not even muster把孩子放在烤箱里,当着家人的面杀死她们,连女人的乳房都收不到
577So i've condemned that he could not even muster i've condemned that but I didn't turn into political theater所以我谴责他连我都无法召集 但我没有变成政治剧场
578Like you just did not so let me tell you this i just need to respect no no no就像你没有一样 让我告诉你 我只是需要尊重...
579He's interrupted me for about half of my time他打断了我一半的时间
580So i'm, so sorry, but like I just i'm not somebody who tries to make political theater out of other people's pain所以,我很抱歉,但就像我只是 我不是一个人 谁试图使政治剧场 出别人的痛苦
581So I gave him pain as political theater and you turn it into political theater.我让他痛苦如政治剧场 而你却把它变成政治剧场
582I'm sorry including对不起
583Putting on a white jacket gentleman gentlemen先生们,穿上白色外套
584We're going to take a break from this pleasant conversation我们要从这个愉快的谈话中休息一下
585And when we come back, we're going to talk about a topic that has been making headlines across the country当我们回来的时候,我们要谈一个话题, 它已经成为全国的头条新闻
586with data centers有数据中心
587First a reminder candidates enter the spin room.首先提醒候选人进入旋转室。
588Once our debate is over this qr code will take you to our live post debate coverage一旦我们辩论这个Qr代码, 将带你到我们的现场辩论报道
589We'll be back in 70 seconds我们70秒后回来
590I want to take a quick aside and tell you that in 30 years of doing debates我想马上离开 告诉你在30年的辩论中
591I've never seen it continue during the commercial but it did let's get right to our next question我从来没有见过它继续 在广告中,但它确实 让我们开始 下一个问题
592Data centers are becoming a flashpoint for voters across michigan数据中心正在成为整个密西根州选民的热点
593And that's the topic of our next question congressman rogers.这是我们下个问题的主题 议员收到。
594You said michigan should quote take a pause probably你说Michigan应该先暂停一下
595On new data center development and have supported one year关于开发新的数据中心,支助了一年
596statewide moratorium全州暂停执行
597That places you at odds with president trump who has tried to accelerate ai and data center development这让你与试图加速AI和数据中心开发的总统胜出
598Is a one-year pause long enough.是一年的暂停足够长。
599You have 60 seconds你还有60秒
600Well, I think you have to get some really important questions answered.嗯,我认为你必须得到 一些非常重要的问题答案。
601It needs to be a local decision.它需要是一个地方决定。
602They need to have water他们需要水
603Control systems that you're not using more and more water.控制系统,你没有使用 越来越多的水。
604They need to show up with their power他们需要用他们的力量出现
605I've said that they should also 100 percent of every我说他们应该百分之百
606Uh dollar if a community wants one of these facilities every every dollar of the generated property tax如果一个社区每收取一美元的财产税 都想要这些设施中的一美元
607Should go to defray the cost of everyone that lives in that municipality dollar for dollar.应该去支付每个住在城市里的人的费用 一美元一美元。
608It should go down它应该下去
609There's just so many questions that people need answered.有很多问题需要回答
610You can't bigfoot this你不能大脚这个
611I think you need that time to answer those questions if people go forward and want one我认为你需要时间来回答那些问题 如果人们前进,想要一个
612There might be a way to get this done.可能会有办法做到的
613I will tell you that my opponent here我会告诉你,我的对手在这里
614Who likes likes to attack and make lots of uh, you know accusation is actually invested into the data centers谁喜欢攻击,做很多 呃,你知道指控 实际上是投资到数据中心
615He's got a hundred thousand dollars in a mutual fund directly invested in the companies that do data centers他有一个10万美金的共同基金 直接投资在做数据中心的公司
616So it's really important that we have this pause answer people's questions and make sure a guy like this isn't making the decision on this所以我们有这个暂停 回答人们的问题 确保这样的人不会做出这个决定
617Thank you congressman.谢谢你,议员
618Dr. Elsayed you've called for public control of ai companiesElsayed博士,你要求公开控制AI公司
619Why should the federal government have an ownership or governing role in private ai and you can respond to the congressman's comments as well联邦政府为什么要在私人事务中 拥有所有权或管理权 而你也可以回应议员的意见
620You have 60 seconds.你有60秒时间。
621What a joke.真是笑话
622I mean I own mutual funds我的意思是,我拥有共同基金
623He's personally invested in the company and the company that controls the real estate for the saline data center他个人投资了控制盐水数据中心房地产的公司
624And I think I I should ask him if he wants a moratorium我想我应该问他要不要暂停
625Should the construction stop on his personal investment because i'd love it too.如果建筑工程停止 他的个人投资,因为我也很喜欢。
626I've been clear.我已经说得很清楚了
627We need a terms of engagement我们需要一个接触条件
628I've been clear that we need government that's not bought off by corporations not bought off by big tech我很清楚,我们需要政府 没有被大科技公司收购
629Not bought off by the very people who benefit who have personal investment stake不是被那些有个人投资利益的人收买
630In the companies that are driving us to the edge of what the people who are developing this technology say在那些推动我们走向技术开发者的边缘的公司里
631Could cause real doom real harm and look I think we need people who actually understand the technology可能会造成真正的末日 真正的伤害,看 我认为我们需要真正理解技术的人
632I've been very clear.我已经说得很清楚了
633We need a terms of engagement on the data centers我们需要一个参与数据中心的条件
634I've been very clear that we need to put ai under democracy我一直很清楚 我们需要把AI置于民主之下
635And if the corporations and their ceos are right that this is going to take nearly 50 percent of our white-collar jobs如果这些公司和他们的头盔是对的 这需要我们50%的白领工作
636I think it's important for the public to have a real stake rather than private investors我认为公众必须拥有真正的利益而不是私人投资者
637To the tune of 2.6 million dollars in the data center put in your backyard alone大约260万美元 在数据中心放进你的后院
638I'm going to go to you for 30 seconds.我去找你们30秒
639I'm good我没事
640I'm going to go to you for 30 seconds and then we're going to move on so this to me is the most important thing我要去找你30秒 然后我们继续前进 这样对我最重要
641You know rapid accusations and other things he had a top staffer flee his campaign你知道,快速指控 和其他的东西 他有一个顶级工作人员逃离他的竞选
642Talking about how not this guy's a manufactured candidate说到这家伙不是人造候选人
643He watched him say one thing to one group and say another thing to another group.他看着他对一个团体说一件事,对另一个团体说另一件事.
644This guy is so filled full of这家伙充满了
645hypocrisy虚伪
646Uh, it's just hard to fathom when he starts going through these things and rattles them off呃,这只是很难理解 当他开始经历这些东西 并震动它们
647What he's basically telling you is he will say anything to win and by the way, that's what his sister said to him顺便说一句 他妹妹也这么说
648He would say anything he needed again他会说出他需要的一切
649Mike you done you could have showed up to the last debate if you actually have things to say迈克,你做了 你本可以来参加上次辩论 如果你真的有话要说
650You could have showed up in the third debate that you turned down.你本可以在第三次拒绝的辩论中出现
651Let's be clear说清楚
652So you've got a situation in which this guy personally invested in ai doesn't want to talk about ai instead所以,你有一个情况 这家伙个人投资AI 不想谈论AI
653He just wants to point to me他只是想告诉我
654But remember what I told you at the very outset you have he wants to talk about himself但记得我一开始跟你说的 他有话要说
655He wants to talk about me, but he doesn't want to talk about you他想谈我 但他不想谈你
656You who are worried about having a data center in your backyard you who are worried about ai taking your job你担心在后院有个数据中心 你担心我接你的工作
657You who are worried about the doom of ai?你担心AI的末日吗?
658He does not want to talk about you because the policies being pressed are the ones from donald trump and he will not stand up他不想说起你 因为那些政策是来自唐纳王牌的 他不会站起来的
659To donald trump notice trump saying no breaks on ai even though we know it's risky.尽管我们知道这很冒险 但当唐纳凌驾于通知之上时 却总是说不能休息
660He won't say a thing他什么都不会说
661All right好吧,我们走
662What I want to talk about is sticking with the next question technology for a moment flock cameras我想说的是 继续使用下一个问题技术
663And other information devices have many people worried about privacy其他的信息设备 有很多人担心隐私
664Should the federal government put guardrails on these cameras?联邦政府应该把护栏放在摄像机上吗?
665Dr. L said you have 60 secondsL医生说你还有60秒
666Yes, absolutely是的,当然
667But I just yes, absolutely.但我只是肯定的,绝对的。
668Absolutely.当然
669I think the idea of being surveilled wherever you are without your consent is a very dangerous thing我认为,在没有得到你同意的情况下 被监视在任何地方的想法是非常危险的
670Now mike is going to have a hard time answering this question现在Mike会很难回答这个问题
671I cannot wait to see what he has to say because when he was in congress我迫不及待想看他说什么 因为他在国会的时候
672He literally told somebody from the stand if you don't know your privacy is being violated.他告诉庭上的人 如果你不知道你的隐私被侵犯的话
673Is your privacy really being violated?你的隐私真的受到侵犯吗?
674It's like the peeping tom vote.这就像偷窥汤姆投票。
675He's going after everywhere and i'm sure you want it他到处找,我肯定你想要
676The question to me is我的问题是
677Why do we continue to have a situation in which we're watching more and more technology steal more and more of our data?为什么我们继续有这样一种情况,即我们看到越来越多的技术窃取我们的数据?
678The very big tech corporations that are buying his campaigns all those attack ads you're seeing big tech and big pharma那些大科技公司正在买他的广告 那些攻击广告你看到的大科技和大药店
679But the big tech part is really scary because you don't know what they have on you and he said again another quote但大科技部分真的很可怕 因为你不知道他们对你有什么影响 他又说了一句
680We would love to have just a bit of what google has on you.我们很想跟你分享一下谷歌的味道
681Can you imagine that that guy right there?你能想象那个家伙吗?
682That's what he said.他就是这么说的
683I don't think we should be surveilling people.我觉得我们不该监视别人
684I think it's a ridiculous thing我觉得这太荒谬了
685Yes, I think when people have their privacy violated, yeah是的,我想当人们的隐私被侵犯,是的
686You really did have your privacy violated even if you didn't know it congressman same question你真的有你的隐私被侵犯 即使你不知道,议员同样的问题
687Should the federal government put guardrails on this technology?联邦政府应该为这项技术设置护栏吗?
688I think local government needs to do this我觉得地方政府应该这么做
689I'm a big believer in the fourth amendment swore that oath to the constitution when I was an fbi agent我对第四修正案很有信心 我当FBI探员时发誓要宣誓遵守宪法
690Protecting a fourth amendment rights is critically important保护第四项修正权利至关重要
691I think the states can do it if they're just using it for citizens who have committed no crimes我认为,各州可以做到这一点,如果他们只是使用它 对于公民谁没有犯罪
692I would not be for that at all and you know, my opponent just doesn't understand the national security infrastructure我根本不会这么做,你知道,我的对手 不懂国家安全的基础设施
693So he's trying to jumble it all up on people but I will tell you this所以他想把事情搞砸 但我会告诉你
694Those those programs were really really important in catching people who were suspected of terrorists这些方案在抓恐怖分子嫌犯方面 是非常重要的
695And being terrorists committing a terrorist act作为恐怖分子 犯下恐怖行为
696That's really really important.这真的很重要。
697And why would that bother you?那你为什么烦恼?
698Well, if you have someone in your family that might be on the好吧,如果你有个人 在你的家人,也许在
699Are you gonna go ahead and say that i'm uh, go ahead and say it no你要继续说,嗯,去说它不
700Did you not have family?你没有家人吗?
701You've been tiptoeing around the whole time.你一直在偷窥。
702Just say it.直说.
703No, I haven't been go ahead and say不,我没说
704Do you know why do you know why it's because of your policies because of your policies.你知不知道为什么是因为你的政策
705That's so right that literally you这是正确的,字面上你
706Use surveillance use surveillance.使用监视使用监视.
707So i'm just saying所以我说
708No, no, well, let's do this.不,不,好吧,让我们做到这一点。
709Let's let's let's open up this can of worms让我们打开这罐虫子
710I'll give you i'll tell you what my mother did.我会告诉你我妈妈做了什么
711She was a a small她是一个小
712You go after my mom i'm not going after your mom what your mom was working at你去追我妈 我不会追你妈的
713I was going off to that organization that was indicted for funneling money to al-qaeda.我打算去那个因为向基地组织输钱而被起诉的组织
714Look, that's your mom看,那是你妈
715My mom worked at a law smoke chamber of commerce.我妈妈在一个法律烟雾商会工作
716I'll put my mom up any day for that我随时会叫我妈来
717All right, we'll give you a rebuttal and we're moving away from this subject.好吧,我们给你一个反驳 我们离开这个话题。
718He wants this to be about anything but his own record他想让这一切只涉及他自己的记录
719He's okay because you can't talk about okay the federal government spies on you他没事,因为你不能说好 联邦政府监视你
720But he wants to make this about anybody else going after my mom my sister但是他想让别人去追我妈 我妹妹
721Got nothing to actually say about me.我没什么好说的
722I'm a dad and a doctor.我是个爸爸和医生
723I'm trying to get money out of politics我想从政治中挣钱
724Pass medicare for all he wants to take every corporate dollar you can to jump hoops for double给所有他想要的都递上医疗费 每一个可以跳转双倍的公司
725We have another viewer question amber kriska is back with that question我们还有一个观众问题 琥珀Kriska回来了
726Our next question is from william busch his focus is on social security and whether it will still exist我们的下一个问题来自威廉・布施 他的焦点是社会保障 以及它是否会继续存在
727If you are elected如果你当选
728The social security trust fund is predicted to become insolvent during your term in office在你任职期间,社会保障信托基金预计将破产
729There's no more kicking the can down the road路边已经没有罐头了
730Can you please tell me two specific things you intend to propose or support?你能告诉我两个你打算提议或支持的具体事情吗?
731In order to keep the program solvent为了保持程序溶剂
732We thank him for that question.我们感谢他提出这个问题。
733We're going to put a little finer point on it我们再细一点
734Knowing that social security了解社会保障
735Is going to be in trouble and it's a safety net for so many people会有麻烦了,对这么多人来说是安全网
736I'm going to give you some choices or you may come up with your own我会给你一些选择 否则你可能会想出你自己的
737But which alternative would you propose higher payroll taxes taking the cap off eliminating the cap on income?但是,你建议哪一种办法来提高工资税 取消收入上限?
738A higher retirement age or lower scheduled benefits you have 60 seconds退休年龄较高或计划福利较低者,可享受60秒
739Well, I think there's probably more options than that.我觉得可能还有更多的选择
740I will tell you this my family counts on social security我会告诉你,我的家人靠社会保障
741I had a brother that was disabled on disabled social security really real important for their family我有一个在残疾社会保险上残疾的哥哥 对他们家庭来说真的很重要
742My parents counted on it for their retirement.我父母都指望他们退休了
743My in-laws are currently counting on social security我的姻亲现在靠社会保障了
744We cannot what's happened is a scheduled 22 cut in 2032 cannot let that happen我们不能让2032年的22次削减 发生这种事
745I think this has to be a bipartisan solution.我认为这必须是两党的解决办法。
746I'd propose that committee我建议委员会
747Put them in a room lock the doors and say don't come out until we have a real solution that can get bipartisan support把门锁上 说在我们找到真正的解决方案 得到两党支持之前不要出来
748The other thing and I tried this early on in my congressional career还有一件事 我和我在国会事业中很早就试过了
749To say any money that the federal government borrows out of the social security fund, which I think is wrong说联邦政府从社会保障基金中借出的钱 我认为是错误的
750Has to get paid back first at the next fiscal year下个财政年度要先还钱
751And what that would do is start to measure and tamp down other spending at the expense of social security那样可以衡量和减少其他开支 牺牲社会保障
752L. Syed医生也一样
753What alternative would you?你还有什么选择?
754Propose to support close that gap higher payroll taxes eliminating建议支持弥合这一差距,消除高薪税
755Uh the the income cap a higher retirement age or lower scheduled benefits.收入上限是更高的退休年龄或较低的计划福利。
756You have 60 seconds你还有60秒
757I think the answer is obvious here.我认为,答案是显而易见的。
758We we should eliminate the cap, right?我们应该取消帽子 对吧?
759It's only fair that the rich should pay their fair share people need and deserve social security有钱人应该支付他们应得的 人民需要的和应得的社会保障
760I'll take one step further.我会再走一步
761I think it's ridiculous that you get social security taken off your paycheck every single month我认为这是荒谬的,你得到社会保障 扣你的工资每个月
762Only to have to pay taxes on social security once it actually kicks in只有在社保税真正开始的时候
763I think we need to eliminate that tax and the reality of it is that republicans magga all the eras我认为我们需要取消这种税 现实是共和党的马加时代
764Whether it was the neocon era that he was a part of or the magga era that he wants to be a part of无论他是新康时代的一部分 还是马加时代的一部分
765They've been against social security for a long time他们反对社保很久了
766Donald trump has said very clearly that he does not believe that this is sustainable or should be something that we continue to invest唐纳德已经非常明确地说,他不相信 这是可持续的,或者应该的东西 我们继续投资
767Instead he wants money for wars that people like mike rogers are perfectly happy to go and fight相反,他想要钱 战争, 像麦克罗杰斯的人 完全高兴去战斗
768So look, I think that this is a critical thing.听着,我觉得这很重要
769We have to get at it我们一定要做到
770I actually think though that the question for us is this实际上,我认为,尽管 对我们的问题是
771Do you elect a u.s senator in michigan who wants to fight the trump agenda?你选一个米契根州参议员 想对抗霸权的阴谋吗?
772Or do you elect a u.s senator in michigan who literally said that he或者你选举一个米契根州参议员 他字面上说他
773Answered the call from donald trump and is therefore running who is going to actually get to work to save social security回应了唐纳德的号召,因此正在运行 谁会真正去工作 拯救社会保障
774To another topic now you both say michigan needs substantially more housing对另一个话题,你们都说 michigan需要更多的住房
775Your approaches are different.你们的方法不同
776Dr. L. Sayed you say america needs a building boomL. Sayed博士 你说美国需要一个建筑繁荣
777But you additionally want government action但你还想要政府采取行动
778Against large corporate investors and speculators buying housing.针对大型公司投资者和投机者购买住房。
779What type of action do you want to see happen in congress towards this?你想在国会中看到什么样的行动?
78060 seconds.60秒钟。
781Yeah, I just don't think big corporations should be able to buy housing and speculate on it是啊,我只是不认为大公司 应该能够购买 住房并猜测
782I don't think that that is legit it takes housing stock off the market and creates a situation我觉得这不合法 它把房地产从市场上拿走 并造成一种局面
783In which it increases the price of housing for folks who would be first-time homeowners在其中,它提高了初住房屋所有人的住房价格
784I also think we just need to build a whole lot more我也觉得我们只需要 建造更多
785We need to address a lot of the red tape that has made it very difficult我们需要解决很多繁文缛节 使它非常困难
786Uh for folks to get those projects zoned and licensed but I also want to take on airbnb and verbo now给大家分配项目区和许可证 但我现在也想接受广播和动词
787You know, I don't know what mike intends to do with his house in florida, but you know我不知道Mike打算怎么处理他在佛罗里达的房子 但你知道
788That he wants to rent it out we can do the house swap with yours in the u.a.e他想把它租出去 我们可以和你交换房子 在U. a. e.
789Airbnb and verbo this thing空气和动词
790So look what airbnb and verbo has done is allowed very rich people to buy excess housing and then rent it on a market看看Airbnb和动词 允许非常富有的人购买多余的住房 然后租到市场上
791That artificially inflates the price of housing for everybody else这人为地抬高了其他人的住房价格
792And I just think that we need to make sure that airbnb and verbo pay their fair share我只是觉得我们需要确保 空气bnb和动词支付他们的公平份额
793I also think we need a renter's bill of rights to enable renters to have those rights in case我也认为我们需要租房人的权利法案 以便租房人拥有这些权利以防万一
794He decides to rent to somebody and decides to be a slum landlord.他决定租给某人,决定做一个贫民窟的房东.
795So I just think it's important to put to put basic所以我认为重要的是要把基础
796Uh curbing on the power of big corporations in our lives congressman限制大公司的力量 在我们的生活,议员
797Your housing message is quote train more builders and fire more bureaucrats您的住宅信息是引文 火车更多建设者 和火灾更多官僚
798I want you to explain that and also would you support prohibiting large investment firms and of buying thousands of single family homes?我想让你解释一下,你还会支持禁止大型投资公司和购买成千上万的单家住宅吗?
799You have 60 seconds.你有60秒时间。
800Yeah, this whole affordability issue is absolutely critical to answer this problem是啊,这整个负担能力问题 绝对关键 来解决这个问题
801Um, if you go to stop abdul.com you can see all of the costs that my opponent has talked about嗯,如果你去停止abdul.com 你可以看到所有的费用 我的对手谈论
802He deleted it all he didn't want you to see it.他删除了所有他不希望你看到它。
803We found it news for you我们给你找到消息了
804You can see it at stop abdul.com.你可以在stop adul.com看到它. (原始内容存档于2017-09-21).
805You can see the exact cost he's trying to impose你可以看到他试图施加的确切代价
806So the last eight years we've had about $25,000 in new regulatory costs for every house for every thousand dollars在过去八年里 我们每千元的每栋房子 都有两万五千元的新管理成本
807You increase the value of that how or the cost of that house?你提高房子的价值或成本?
808Uh 3200 michigan citizens can't afford that house.3200个密西根公民买不起那房子
809We have to tamp down on those regulatory environments我们必须压低这些监管环境
810You know, I I did the education savings plans for michigan about 400 000 people enjoying those plans here in the state today你知道,我做了教育储蓄计划 为michigan大约40万人 享受这些计划 在州今天
811Uh, and what we want to do is I want to make sure that they have the same kind of thing for new homeowners嗯,我们想做的是,我要确保 他们有同样的东西 对于新的房主
812To save tax free have your boss to kick in tax free为了免税,你老板可以免税
813Uh have your grandma ticket kick in tax free so you get to that 20 percent you do that让你奶奶免费罚单 让你得到20%
814You reduce the regulation you increase the ability for them to be able to afford that down payment.你减少规定,你增加了他们支付定金的能力。
815It gets people into the house它能让人们进屋
816We're going to move on to a subject that we could have talked about for the last 40 years我们接下来要谈一个过去40年可以谈的主题
817Although the number keeps getting higher and that's the federal debt虽然数字不断上升,这是联邦债务
818It's now more than 40现在已经超过40了
819trillion dollars万亿美元
820Interest rates are high investor grade investors are issuing warnings and first-time home buyers are having a hard time getting into the market congressman rogers利率是高投资等级的投资者 发出警告 第一次购房的人 很难进入市场
821Can you tell voters one significant spending cut or tax change or entitlement reform?你能告诉选民一个重大开支削减或税收变动或应享权利改革吗?
822That you would support even if it's politically unpopular to start reducing that debt you have 60 seconds你愿意支持,即使政治上不受欢迎 开始减债,你有60秒
823So I was the chairman of the house intelligence committee in the united states congress at the time of iraq and afghanistan在伊拉克和阿夫汉斯坦时期,我曾是 美国国会情报委员会主席
824At that time russia was trying to get nuclear当时,俄罗斯试图获得核武器
825Excuse me torpedoes china was going after us in space.对不起,中国鱼雷在太空追击我们
826It was pretty precarious time for the country这个国家现在很不稳定
827I took a look at that budget.我看过那个预算了
828I worked in a bipartisan way with my ranking democrat我以两党制的方式 与我的排名民主人士合作
829We sat down over the course of the summer and we cut out 11 billion dollars of a 78 billion dollar budget夏天我们坐下来 我们从780亿美元的预算中削减了110亿美元
830That just wasn't done back then it was never done那只是没有完成 那时它从来没有完成
831Then we made sure that that money didn't get added in in the six years that followed that balance that our cut in that budget然后我们确保这笔钱不会在6年里增加 之后的余额,我们削减的预算。
832I think there is fat and waste in every department and I put the department of defense in there as well我觉得每个部门都有肥胖浪费 我把国防部也放进去了
833I think if you go after the fraud the fraud numbers now are about 500 billion dollars我想如果你去查那起诈骗案 现在的诈骗数字是5000亿美元
834And you go after waste in each one of these departments like I have done in a bipartisan way而你在每一个部门都浪费,就像我用两党的方式
835I think you can get that math down to a good place pretty quickly我想你可以把数学 降到一个好地方 很快
836Dr. Elsayed, it seems something has to change.艾尔赛德医生,好像有些事情要改变
837Can you point to a significant spending cut or entitlement reform or tax change?你能指向大幅度削减开支或改革应享待遇或改变税收吗?
838That you would support even if it's not politically popular you have 60 seconds tax billionaire wealth你愿意支持,即使它在政治上不流行 你有60秒的税收亿万富翁财富
839It's that simple we could return 4.6 trillion dollars simply by taxing billionaires很简单,我们只要对亿万富翁征税 就能归还4.6万亿美元
840Look, I I don't know about anybody.你看,我不知道 关于任何人。
841He's gonna get precious about billionaires here in a second他马上会得到亿万富翁的宝藏
842But yeah, I don't think it's important for a billionaire to make a second billion但我觉得亿万富翁赚第二亿并不重要
843I think it's more important for the average person to be able to make their first hundred thousand if you could think about what you could do我认为更重要的是,普通人 能够创造他们的头十万 如果你可以思考 你可以做什么
844with 4.6 trillion dollars back以4.6万亿美元回报
845to our我们的
846Federal budget think about what it would mean for things like health care things like child care联邦预算会考虑它意味着什么 比如医疗 诸如育儿
847The reality of it is that while my colleague was in congress for 14 years事实是,当我的同事在国会里待了14年
848They accrued a 12他们累积了12
849Trillion dollar deficit 12 trillion dollars the 40 trillion we have 12 trillion alone came while he was in congress三亿美元赤字 12万亿美元 我们只有12万亿美元 是在他参加国会的时候来的
850So he's going to talk a big game about balancing budgets.所以,他要去谈论一个大游戏 关于平衡预算。
851It didn't really quite do that其实不是那样的
852Did we why because every time his party's in power?我们为什么因为他的党每次掌权?
853We do two things we cut taxes for the richest people or and we go to war我们做两件事,为最富有的人减税 或者我们去打仗
854And that's exactly what donald trump has just done with the one big ugly bill and the iran war and he's backstopped the entire thing这就是Donald的优势 刚刚做了一个大 丑帐和伊兰战争 他支持整个事情
855So what do you think you're going to get with him more deficit more debt only to tell us we can't have health care所以,你认为你会得到什么 与他更多的赤字 更多的债务 只告诉我们,我们不能有保健
856I'll give you 30 seconds.我给你30秒。
857Yeah, this is the guy.是的,这是家伙。
858He just does not want to explain what his proposals are他只是不想解释他的建议是什么
859That's why he does this really pretty talk you learn that in oxford.这就是为什么他这样做 真的很漂亮的谈话 你在牛福德学习。
860I guess how to talk pretty but I will tell you what?我想怎么说话漂亮,但我会告诉你什么?
861It's dangerous.这是危险的。
862They're going to take away your personal health care and the new cost is他们要抢走你的私人医疗 新的代价是
863$20,000 in new taxes per family.每户2万元新税.
864Oh, and by the way, you have to answer to the government顺便说一句,你必须向政府负责
865Oh, and by the way, he supports the death panels that canada implemented顺便说一句 他支持Canada执行的死亡小组
866Do you want the government making those decisions at a more expensive cost and less access so well i'm not done yet你想让政府做出这些决定 花费更昂贵 和更少的准入 如此好 我还没有完成
867You are because we're at the end of the show.你是因为我们在节目的最后
868We're gonna run out of time 30 seconds for you.我们会用光30秒
869Dr医生
870Yeah, in case I wasn't clear tax billionaire wealth.是啊,以防万一我没有 清楚税务亿万富翁的财富。
871Look, I actually went to I learned that at michigan where I actually went to school你看,我其实去 我学到,在米契根 我实际上上学
872I don't just parade around in the block m the reality of it is that we can do this.我不只是在街区到处游行 现实是,我们可以做到这一点。
873It's just math more money in这只是数学 更多的钱在
874Less money out.少出钱.
875So ask yourself whether or not this war is good for you问问你自己,这场战争对你有没有好处
876This guy voted to keep prescription drug prices high这家伙投票让处方药价格居高不下
877He's enthralled to all the corporations that have nickeled and dimed you $64,000 alone from dte.他向所有公司倾诉 单从dte给你64,000美元
878Not true.不对
879Not true不对
880Not not we gotta say on time.不是我们要按时说
881We're getting our final question and here it is我们要问最后一个问题了,现在
882We have had a number of people我们有很多人
883Ask questions from viewers and expressing concern about the divide between right and left.向观众提问,并对左右的划分表示关切.
884So starting with you.所以从你开始
885Dr医生
886Elsayed, who do you work for?艾赛德,你为谁工作?
887Can you name one trump policy you would have voted for because you believe it was right for michigan you have 60 seconds你能说出一个胜者政策吗? 你本来会投票的 因为你相信这对Michigan来说是正确的
888I work for the people of the state of michigan.我为密西根州人民工作
889I have never taken a dime from a corporation to run a campaign我从来没有从公司拿一毛钱 来进行竞选
890This guy took more money from corporate super PACs than这家伙从公司超级PAC拿的钱比
891Anybody in the michigan delegation when he was in congress called himself the champion of big pharmas任何在密西根代表团的人 当他在国会 自称是大药剂的冠军
892I don't work for them.我不为他们工作。
893I don't work for big insurance.我不为大保险工作。
894Who's also bottom off.谁亦底.
895I don't work for big tech我不为大科技工作
896I don't work for dte who's also bottom off.我的工作不是为Dte的 谁也是底层。
897I work for the people我为人民工作
898And I believe as such we have a responsibility to work with anybody who is going to champion the issues that people have我相信我们有责任 与任何人合作 谁将捍卫人们的问题
899Actually that policy that you asked me about rick about the question of whether or not we should have corporate speculators buying housing其实你问我关于里克的政策 关于我们是否应该有 公司投机者购买住房的问题
900That's something that donald trump seemed to agree with me with congressional stock trading something he's done唐纳似乎同意我的观点 国会股票交易
901Also donald trump agreed with me with i don't own personal stock唐纳德还和我说好不拥有私人股票
902I'm not trying to make myself rich off of my job in public service我不是想让自己从公共事业中发财
903This guy has done exactly that 14 million dollars这家伙做了1400万
904That's what he made when he left congress doing the work for the corporations这就是他离开国会时为公司做的工作
905He had just previously been regulating who had bought him off when he was in congress in the first place他刚刚在监管谁 买下他的时候,他第一次在国会
906We have to go 60 seconds.我们必须走60秒。
907This is so offensive to me这太冒犯我了
908This is the truth incredible and it is not the truth and you know, it's not the truth这是不可思议的真理,不是真理 你知道,这不是真理
909Like I said interrupt you're like that就像我说的那样打断你
910AI chat bot that's a little glitchy.AI聊天机有点小故障
911You just say it over and over and you make accusations for a guy that你只是一遍又一遍地说 你指责一个家伙
912It's your record.这是你的记录。
913My god, you did it.我的上帝,你做到了。
914No, I did not never I never traded a stock 64 000 dollars from dt不,我从来没有交易 股票64000美元从dt
915Did you or did you not take it?是你还是不是你拿走的?
916Oh my gosh, did you or did you not?哦,我的上帝,是你还是你没有?
917也就是说你被George Soler的家人收买
918That means that you're bought off by hamas这意味着你被Hamas收买
919Hezbollah al-qaeda those people who are supporting you pour that money into your campaign那些支持你的人 把钱投入你的竞选中
920这是一个非常大的 Chuck schumer 恳求 Chuck schumer 事实
921You had to sneak by the trash cans in the back of the building to beg for that money你只好偷偷从楼后垃圾桶里 乞讨那笔钱
922So here's the guy to send money out of politics until it gets to shove into his pocket for your eyes所以就是这个家伙把钱从政治中流出来 直到他把钱塞进口袋里
923That tells you that tells you 10 seconds absolutely tells you who he is这说明你10秒 绝对告诉你他是谁
924The guy on his staff that said he will say anything to get elected and tell you one thing one time and another the next time他手下的人说他会说什么来当选 一次又一次告诉你一件事
925He's a manufactured candidate.他是一个人造候选人。
926We've come to the end of our discussion.我们的讨论已经结束了。
927Thank you both very much谢谢你们两位
928You have 30 seconds to wrap up our debate beginning with you.你有30秒时间结束我们的辩论 从你开始
929Dr.医生
930El -sayed 你必须准时30秒
931Look, I told you what this debate was going to be him pointing at me and saying all kinds of foreign names你看,我告诉你什么 这场辩论将是 他指着我 说各种外国名字
932Or him talking about himself或者他自言自语
933And I told you i'm interested in you我告诉过你我对你感兴趣
934I understand that gas is too expensive groceries are unaffordable我知道汽油太贵了,买不起
935I understand that it's really hard to see a doctor and I want to solve that我知道很难看医生 我想解决这个问题
936And the reason we haven't is because we've got corporate politicians who are going to do the bidding of people like donald trump而我们之所以没有 是因为我们有企业的政客 他们要为像Donald coup这样的人出价
937The war in iran the tariff war all the money he's taken from pharma ask yourself if that's helped you在伊兰的战争 关税战争 所有他从药店拿的钱
938I believe in money out of politics money in your pocket medicare for all 30 seconds congress我相信从政的钱 在你的口袋医疗费 所有30秒国会
939We cannot afford abdul and we cannot risk his ideology我们不能放弃,也不能冒着他的意识形态的风险
940Think about what he's proposing the largest most massive tax increase in the history taking over your private health insurance想一想他提议 有史以来最大的税额增加 接管你的私人健康保险
941And giving it to the government huge increases in your energy costs that 30 30 percent alone并把它给政府 大幅增加你的能源成本 30%光是
942In utilities, it's a carbon tax that affects everything that you buy i'm mike rogers united states army officer fbi agent在公用事业方面,这是碳税 影响你购买的一切 我是Mike Rogers 美国陆军军官FBI特工
943Don't listen to this guy别听这家伙的话
944I will make and fight for a better michigan.我会努力争取更好的密西根人
945Thank you candidates.谢谢各位候选人。
946I appreciate you being here感谢你能来
947Thanks to news nation our broadcast partners感谢新闻国家,我们的广播伙伴
948And to all of you who are watching don't forget to go to wood tv plus for the spin room right now给大家看的 别忘了去木头电视 外加现在的旋转室
949For more on tonight's debate including a reaction from the candidates更多关于今晚的辩论 包括候选人的反应
950And the final word is good night from grand rapids.最后一句话是大快车的晚安
951Thank you.谢谢
952Good luck祝你好运
953And the final word is good night from grand rapids, thank you good luck最后一句话是"大快车"的晚安,谢谢祝好运
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