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0:05We're back, we're back with former president Joe Biden.我们回来了 我们和前总统乔·拜登重归于好
0:09He's going to be joined now by the woman他现在要和那个女人在一起了
0:12who's devoted her life to initiatives她毕生致力于倡议
0:14that make education accessible for everyone,使人人都能接受教育,
0:17a fierce advocate for women's rights,大力倡导妇女权利,
0:20and a devoted wife of 47 years.和47岁的忠实妻子。
0:23Please welcome back former first lady, Dr. Jill Biden.请欢迎前第一夫人 吉尔·拜登博士
0:54Come with me, I do.跟我来,我做的。
0:57So Sonny, you have the first question.所以,桑尼,你有第一个问题。
1:00Dr. Biden, you have officially been a private citizen拜登博士,你已经正式成为公民了
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1We're back, we're back with former president Joe Biden.我们回来了 我们和前总统乔·拜登重归于好
2He's going to be joined now by the woman他现在要和那个女人在一起了
3who's devoted her life to initiatives她毕生致力于倡议
4that make education accessible for everyone,使人人都能接受教育,
5a fierce advocate for women's rights,大力倡导妇女权利,
6and a devoted wife of 47 years.和47岁的忠实妻子。
7Please welcome back former first lady, Dr. Jill Biden.请欢迎前第一夫人 吉尔·拜登博士
8Come with me, I do.跟我来,我做的。
9So Sonny, you have the first question.所以,桑尼,你有第一个问题。
10Dr. Biden, you have officially been a private citizen拜登博士,你已经正式成为公民了
11for 109 days.109天时间。
12What was the first thing you did as a private citizen你作为公民做的第一件事是什么?
13that you weren't allowed to do as first lady?你不允许做第一夫人吗?
14And just how is it going?怎么样?
15It's going really well.进展顺利
16And the first thing, I don't know,还有第一件事,我不知道,
17I'm shopping in the supermarket我在超市购物
18a little bit more than I was.比我多一点。
19So, and we've taken the train,所以,我们已经坐上了火车,
20we never could take the train before.我们以前从没坐过火车
21In the last couple of days,过去几天里
22I've been on a lot of airplanes.我坐过很多飞机
23So I've been in LA and New York and D.C.我去过洛杉矶、纽约和华盛顿
24So, doing a lot of traveling, getting a lot done.所以,做很多旅行, 得到了很多工作。
25But you say that's a secret service.但你说那是特勤局
26That's the benefit, but it also means you're not, anyway.这就是好处,但也意味着你不是,反正。
27Of course.当然
28There can't be two out there.不能有二门.
29Mr. President, since you left office,总统先生 自从你卸任后
30there have been a number of books that have come out,有一些书已经出来了,
31deeply sourced from democratic sources,来源于民主,
32that claim in your final year,在你最后一年的声称,
33there was a dramatic decline in your cognitive abilities.你的认知能力急剧下降
34In the final year of your presidency,在你担任主席的最后一年
35what is your response to these allegations,你对这些指控的反应是什么?
36or are these sources wrong?还是这些来源错了?
37They are wrong.他们错了。
38There's nothing to sustain that, number one.没有什么可以维持的,第一。
39Number two, you know, think of what we're left with.第二,你知道, 想想我们剩下的。
40We're left with a circumstance我们有一个情况
41where we had an insurrection when I started,在那里,我们有一个叛乱 当我开始,
42that nonsense of civil war.胡说八道的内战
43We had a circumstance where we were in a position我们有一个情况 我们处于一个位置
44that we, well, the pandemic,我们,嗯,流行病,
45because of the incompetence of the last outfit,因为最后一件衣服无能
46end up over a million people dying, a million people dying.最终超过100万人死亡,100万人死亡.
47And we're also in a situation where we found ourselves我们也处在一个我们发现自己
48unable to deal with a lot of just basic issues.无法处理许多简单的基本问题。
49And which I won't go into in the interest of time.我不会为了时间考虑而去的
50And so we went to work and we got it done.于是我们去工作,我们做到了。
51And, you know, one of the things that, well,而且,你知道, 一件事,嗯,
52I'm talking too long.我说话太长了
53Well, and Elissa, you know, one of the things I think和伊丽莎,你知道, 我认为一件事
54is that the people who wrote those books是那些写那些书的人
55were not in the White House with us.没有和我们一起在白宫里
56And they didn't see how hard Joe worked every single day.他们没看到乔每天都在努力工作
57I mean, he'd get up, he'd put in a full day,我的意思是,他会起床, 他把一整天,
58and then at night he would, I'd be in bed, you know,然后在晚上他会, 我会在床上,你知道,
59reading my book, and he was still on the phone看我的书,他还在打电话
60reading his briefings, working with staff.阅读他的情况介绍,与工作人员合作。
61I mean, it was nonstop.我的意思是,这是不间断的。
62The White House being president is not like a job.白宫当总统可不是工作
63It's a lifestyle.这是一个生活方式。
64It's a life that you live.尔时众生.
65You live it 24 hours a day.你一天24小时活下来
66That phone can ring at 11 o'clock at night那电话晚上11点能响
67or two in the morning.或早上两点
68It's constant.是常无常.
69You never leave it.你永远不会离开它。
70And Joe worked really hard.乔很努力地工作
71I think he was a great president.我认为他是一个伟大的总统。
72And if you look at things today,如果你今天看东西
73if you look at things today, give me Joe Biden any time.如果你看今天的事情, 随时给我乔拜登。
74That's worth the invitation to come to the show.这值得邀请 来参加演出。
75Mr. President, just to follow up on this,总统先生 继续说下去
76some of the reporting is that people like your,有些报道是,人们喜欢你,
77the former president you served under, Barack Obama,前任总统,巴拉克・奥巴马,
78George Clooney, a longtime supporter of yours,乔治·克鲁尼 你的长期支持者
79major Democratic donor, Chuck Schumer,主要民主捐赠者查克·舒默
80your dear friend, Nancy Pelosi,你亲爱的朋友 南希·佩洛西
81also had expressed concerns about your ability还担心你的能力
82{\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}再干4年 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}我还得再干4年
83Can I ask what your relationship is with President Obama请问你和奥巴马总统的关系
84and how you addressed those concerns that they raised?你如何解决他们提出的关切?
85Well, look, I think that the only reason你看,我认为唯一的原因
86I got out of the race was because I didn't want to have我出赛是因为我不想
87a divided Democratic party.一个分裂的民主党。
88It was a simple proposition.这是一个简单的提议。
89And so that's why I got out of the race.所以我才退出比赛
90I thought it was better to put the country不如把国家放进去
91ahead of my interest, my personal interest.我个人的兴趣
92I'm not being facetious.我不是在开玩笑
93I'm being deadly earnest about that.我对此非常认真
94And I think that, you know, we still,而且我认为,你知道,我们仍然,
95let me put it this way, I had six more months.这么说吧 我还有六个月时间
96I did a pretty good job in six months, as you can tell.我在半年里做了一个相当不错的工作,你可以看到。
97I mean, I was doing the G20 in Brazil in November.我的意思是,我正在做 G20 11月在巴西。
98I was, I mean, there's nothing that changed我,我的意思是,没有什么改变
99in terms of my work ethic or the success we had就我的工作道德或成功而言
100with foreign policy or domestic policy.外交政策或国内政策。
101And, but look, I understand.听着 我理解
102And the last thing we needed was for me to,我们最不需要的就是让我
103and by the way, it's not illegitimate to say,顺便说一句,说说不违法
104look, I know he only looks like he's 40, but,听着,我知道他看起来只有40岁,但是,
105but, you know, at the end of that term, you know,但是,你知道, 在那个词的结尾,你知道,
106he'd be 86 years old.他已经86岁了
107我了解,我记得 I get it.
108I understand the concern.我理解这种担心。
109I really do.我真的喜欢
110But the point of the matter is that I would,但问题是,我愿意,
111I would offer specific evidence if we had time,如果我们有时间 我会提供具体的证据
112exactly what I got done when I was supposedly恰好我做了什么 当我应该是
113lost my cognitive capability.失去了我的认知能力。
114And secondly, what we did after we got out of the race,第二,我们出赛后做了什么
115I said, when I got out of the race,我说,当我离开比赛时,
116I was still gonna be president.我还想当总统呢
117I think I did a pretty damn good job the last six months.我想我做了一个相当好的工作 在过去六个月。
118So, yeah, so, well, you know what freaked everybody out所以,是的,那么,你知道什么吓坏了大家
119was that debate.那次辩论
120Yeah.对
121It wasn't a great night.这不是一个伟大的夜晚。
122It was a bad night.这是一个糟糕的夜晚。
123Terrible night.糟糕的夜晚,我们一起走
124And everybody lost their mind.大家都疯了
125Because of course, no one has ever had a bad night当然,没有人有过糟糕的夜晚
126when they were, nobody tries to have a bad night.那时,没有人试图有一个糟糕的夜晚。
127Sometimes it happens.有时会发生
128So this is, this is what started both sides with this,因此,这就是双方开始这个,
129oh, he can't do this.哦,他不能这样做。
130This needs to stop.这需要停止。
131Why do you think that caught fire?为什么你认为那起火了?
132Why do you think people bought into it,为什么你认为人们买下它,
133especially the Democrats?特别是民主党?
134Well, first of all, we still were winning primaries.首先,我们仍然在赢得初选
135We were still doing everything.我们仍然在做一切。
136The Democratic Party at large didn't buy into it.整个民主党没有买进去.
137But the Democratic leadership但民主党领导
138and some of the very significant contributors did.以及一些非常重要的捐助者这样做了。
139Even though we raised enormous,虽然我们升起了巨大的,
140like when I left the race,就像我离开比赛时
141Kamala had hundreds of millions of dollars.卡玛拉有上亿美金
142She had the best organized campaign.她的竞选是组织最好的
143Every state was organized, et cetera.每个州都有组织,等等。
144But you know, what happens is that it took on a life,但是,你知道, 发生的事情是 它花费了生命,
145and I had a very, I'm gonna say something outrageous.我有一个非常, 我要说一些令人发指的事情。
146I've lost many debates in my life.我生命中失去了很多辩论
147I've been pretty good at doing that.我一直很擅长这样做。
148I was sick.我当时病了
149I was, no excuse.我是,没有借口。
150But I was not-但我没有...
151It's an explanation.解说.
152And I had a bad, bad night.我有一个糟糕,糟糕的夜晚。
153Yeah.对
154And I had, anyway, I'm not gonna-而且我,无论如何,我不会...
155Did you immediately know you had had a bad night?你立即知道 你有一个糟糕的夜晚?
156Yeah, I did.是的,我做到了。 我做到了。
157But even after that, the polls this show但即使之后,民意调查 这场演出
158be down by two points.减二分.
159And Hannah, you know, Joe came up,汉娜,你知道,乔来了,
160I went onto the stage after the debate.辩论结束后我走上舞台
161I mean, we all saw it.我的意思是,我们都看到了。
162It was terrible.这是可怕的。
163And so Joe looked at me and he said,乔看着我说
164I, well, I'll use screwed up.我,好吧,我会用搞砸了。
165He said, I, he didn't say that.他说,我,他没有说。
166And I said, yeah.我说,是的。
167We all know Joe Biden.我们都认识乔·拜登
168We know what he said.我们知道他说了什么
169And I said, yeah, you did, Joe.我说,是的,你做到了,乔。
170But we have hundreds of people waiting for us.但我们有数百人等着我们。
171Put your shoulders back, walk out there.把肩膀放回去,走出来
172You know, be who you are.你知道,你是谁。
173And we were not going to let 90 minutes of a debate我们不会让90分钟的辩论
174define his presidency and all those years of service.确定主席职务和所有服务年限。
175Well, Dr. Biden, I do wanna ask you,拜登博士,我想问你
176naturally, you are your husband's fiercest advocate当然,你是你丈夫最激烈的拥护者
177and a close advisor.和一位亲密的顾问。
178And it's been reported that you created据报道,你创造了
179a sort of cocoon around him他身边有种茧
180and kind of limited his interactions和那种有限的互动
181with the media and others.与媒体和其他人。
182Do you think you could have been too close你觉得你可能太亲近了
183to the situation to objectively gauge客观判断情况
184whether he could handle a full four more years?他能不能再处理整整四年?
185I was with Joe day and night.我日夜陪着乔
186I saw him more than any other person.我比其他任何人都见过他
187I woke up with him.我和他一起醒来
188I went to bed at night with him.我晚上跟他上床睡觉
189So I saw him all throughout the day我整天都看见他
190and I did not create a cocoon around him.我没有在他身边制造茧
191I mean, you saw him in the Oval Office.我的意思是,你看见他在办公室。
192You saw him making speeches.你看到他演讲了
193He wasn't hiding somewhere.他没有躲起来
194I didn't have him, you know, sequestered in some place.我没有他,你知道的, 扣押在某个地方。
195I mean, that's ridiculous.我的意思是,这是荒谬的。
196Is that hurtful to you when they were describing you当他们描述你的时候,你感到很痛苦吗?
197as Lady Macbeth and all of those?作为麦克白夫人和所有这些?
198Yes, it was very hurtful.对,很痛
199It was very hurtful, especially from some这很痛,特别是一些
200of our so-called friends.我们所谓的朋友。
201Well, you know what?你知道吗?
202You know what?你知道吗?
203Look, we know we see what happened.你看,我们知道我们看到了发生了什么事。
204Sometimes, you know, you kick it up and you stand up.有时候,你知道,你踢它起来,你站起来。
205The greatest thing is that you then,最大的事情是你当时,
206the next day, went to the G4.第二天,去了G4队。
207You went all these other places.你去过其他的地方
208Am I incorrect?我错了吗?
209G20.G20 (英语).
210But you said G4.但你说G4。
211I think that was a jet.我想那是喷气机
212I could have been on one.我本来可以去的
213What's the difference?有什么区别?
214I know it's a G.我知道这是一个G。
215But my point is that you were amongst all those people但我要说的是 你曾经是其中之一
216and somebody would have said, you know, he's a little...有人会说,你知道, 他有点...
217But the only people that were saying it,但是,唯一有人说,
218as I'm understanding it,依我的理解
219is people who peripherally are standing out here.是周边的人站在这里。
220And so we got what we got.所以我们得到了我们得到的。
221But right now, we got President Joe Biden但是现在,我们有乔·拜登总统
222and Dr. Jill Biden, and we will be right back.还有吉尔·拜登博士 我们马上回来
223We'll be right back with President Joe Biden我们马上回来找乔·拜登总统
224and Dr. Jill Biden.还有吉尔·拜登博士
225And we have not a lot of time,我们的时间不多了
226but Anna's got the question.但安娜有问题
227Go ahead, Anna.来吧,安娜。
228Okay, all right.好吧,没事。
229So in the White House, you had started所以在白宫,你已经开始
230this magnificent initiative for women's health,这一促进妇女健康的宏伟举措,
231the Women's Health Initiative.妇女保健倡议。
232Like so many other great things you all did,就像你们所做的其他许多伟大的事情一样,
233it has gone nowhere.它没有去任何地方。
234It's been disappeared.它已经消失了。
235But you now have an entirely new role.但你现在有一个全新的角色。
236You are the chair of the Milken Institute's你是Milken学院的院长
237newly launched Women's Health Network.新启动的妇女健康网络。
238And as a champion of women,作为女子冠军,
239what are you looking forward to doing?你期待着做什么?
240What is that going to mean, this new role of yours?你的新角色是什么意思?
241Well, you know, once I found out that women's research嗯,你知道,一旦我发现 女性的研究
242was underfunded and understudied,资金不足和研究不足,
243many of the women in the audience may not know.许多观众可能不知道。
244Women were not generally included in research.妇女一般没有参与研究。
245They weren't required to be in research back until 1993.他们直到1993年才被要求从事研究.
246Can you believe that?你能相信吗?
247So all these tests and all the research was done on men.所有这些测试和研究都是针对男性的。
248So consequently, all of the things like heart attacks,因此,所有的事情,如心脏病发作,
249that we have dosages for and strategies to attend,我们有办法和策略,
250everything is based on men.一切都建立在男人的基础之上
251So now with this new initiative,现在有了这个新倡议
252so I carried it from the White House to Milken.所以我把它从白宫带到Milken。
253And so we are going to create a fund所以我们要建立一个基金
254so that the research continues,以便研究继续进行,
255because that's one of the things that has been cut.因为那是被切断的东西之一。
256So we all need answers, don't we?所以我们都需要答案,不是吗?
257We need answers about osteoporosis,我们需要骨质疏松症的答案
258menopause, heart attacks,更年期 心脏病发作
259why am I losing my hair?为什么我要掉头发?
260Incontinence, so many things.失禁,如此多事.
261You know, hormone replacement therapy.荷尔蒙替代疗法
262So there's so much we need to do.因此,我们有很多事情要做。
263We need to continue the research.我们需要继续研究。
264And that is what Milken is going to do.这就是米尔肯会做的。
265We're going to fund the research.我们将资助研究。
266So here's the reason prostate cancer has fallen所以,这就是前列腺癌下降的原因
267is because of Mike Milken,因为迈克·米尔肯
268did all that research on prostate cancer.对前列腺癌做了那么多研究
269He's no joke with health.他不会开玩笑的
270Oh my goodness, more with President Joe Biden哦,我的上帝,更多的与乔·拜登总统
271and Dr. Joe Biden when we come back.和乔・拜登博士 当我们回来。
272Okay, we're back with President Joe Biden好了,我们回到乔·拜登总统身边了
273and Dr. Joe Biden.还有乔·拜登博士
274Sonny has the next question.桑尼有下一个问题。
275Thank you, Whoopi.谢谢你,呜呼。
276Mr. President, you and Dr. Biden总统先生,你和拜登博士
277recently attended the Pope's funeral in Rome.最近出席了罗马教皇的葬礼.
278You are both devout Catholics.你们都是虔诚的天主教徒
279Religion has always been a big part of both of your lives.宗教一直是你们两个生活的一大部分。
280And you said that Pope Francis gave you hope and optimism.你说教宗方济各给了你希望和乐观。
281Is that what your, what is your message to our country这就是你给我们国家的信息
282at this point in time?此时此刻?
283You're still the greatest country in the history of the world.你仍然是世界历史上最伟大的国家.
284True, not a joke.没错 不是开玩笑
285And there's nothing, nothing beyond our capacity没有什么,没有超出我们的能力
286if we do it, there's nothing, not a single thing.如果我们这样做,什么也没有,什么都没有。
287You guys remember who the hell we are.你们还记得我们是谁吗?
288And by the way, the Pope knew who we were, not a joke.顺便说一句 教皇知道我们是谁 不是开玩笑
289And by the way, Jill's a devout Presbyterian.且道,吉儿是虔诚的长老.
290Oh, sorry, oh, sorry, nevermind.哦,对不起,哦,对不起,没关系。
291She's devoted to Joe Biden.她献身于乔·拜登.
292Well, the Pope also was very inclusive.嗯,教皇也是非常包容的。
293So he didn't care what your religion was.所以他不在乎你的宗教是什么
294He was the Pope of all the peoples.他是所有民族的教皇。
295Absolutely.当然
296He was the people's Pope.他是人民的教皇。
297He was the, he really was the people's Pope.他是,他真的是人民教宗。
298He was very, I loved him.他非常,我爱他。
299Can I have one of your meetings with Francis like?我能和弗兰西斯开个会吗?
300They were personal, they were good.他们是个人的, 他们是很好的。
301We'd call, not infrequently, he'd call me and ask me我们经常打电话,他会打电话问我
302if I could do some things in Haiti and other places.如果我能在海地和其他地方做点什么
303He was very concerned about what we were doing,他非常关心我们在做什么,
304wanted me to push, dealing with trying to work想要我推,处理 尝试工作
305with the Russian Orthodox Church, a whole range.与俄罗斯正教会, 整个范围。
306I mean, he was, he was very engaged and I trusted him我的意思是,他是,他非常订婚 我信任他
307and I presumptively say I think he trusted me.我觉得他相信我
308Yeah, you know, I'm so glad you both came.是啊,你知道,我很高兴你们两个都来了。
309It's good to see you.欢喜踊跃.
310Thank you.谢谢
311You know, and we're here, we're in it together.你知道,我们在这里, 我们一起的。
312He's not going anywhere, we're not going anywhere.他哪儿也不去 我们哪儿也不去
313We're going to fight until we get what we deserve我们要战斗到得到应得的为止
314as Americans.作为美国人。
315Our thanks to President Joe Biden and Dr. Jill Biden.我们感谢乔·拜登总统和吉尔·拜登博士。
316And of course, we'll be right back.当然,我们马上就回来。
317Hey, it's the end of the show, but before we go,嘿,这是节目的结束, 但在我们走之前,
318first we want to say, go Knicks.首先我们要说,去尼克斯。
319Secondly, we want to congratulate you, Joy,其次,我们要祝贺你,乔伊,
320and give you a minute to brag about what's going on.并给你一分钟 吹嘘发生了什么。
321Well, I'm very excited because my show,我很兴奋 因为我的节目
322My First Ex-Husband was just nominated我的第一个前乐队刚刚被提名
323for an Off-Broadway Alliance Award公路外联盟奖
324for Best Unique Theatrical Experience.最佳戏剧经验。
325And I'm very grateful and proud我非常感激和骄傲
326of the whole team behind the show.整个团队的幕后。
327You only have a little over a week to see us though.你只有一周多的时间来看我们
328Then we go on the road and I'll be in it tonight然后我们上路 我今晚就进去
329and next Wednesday, so buy tickets.下周三买票吧
330And you just invited President and Mrs. Biden.你刚刚邀请了拜登夫妇
331I did, I invited them to come.我邀请了他们来
332Well, we'll see, do you have any security好吧,我们会看到, 你有安全
333because I can't get up.因为我不能站起来。
334Tickets are limited.车票有限.
335Anyway, go to myfirstexhusband.com for tickets.总之,去我的第一个前夫.com买票.
336Very good, all right.非常好,没事的。
337So we want you to have a great day,所以我们希望你有一个美好的一天,
338take a little time to enjoy the view.花点时间欣赏风景
339And don't forget, you're not in this alone.别忘了 你不孤单
340We're all in it together.共为一心.
341With that, family.带着这个,家人。
342Don't give up hope.不要放弃希望。
343We'll be back tomorrow, we'll see you then.我们明天就回来 到时候见
344Tingo.丁果(原变种).
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