民主党领袖杰弗里斯表态不支持DSA议程 | 2026.8.1
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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
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| 0:01 | Welcome back and joining me now is Democratic House Minority Leader Hakeem | 欢迎回来加入我 民主之家少数党领袖Hakeem |
| 0:05 | Jeffries of New York. | 纽约的杰夫 |
| 0:06 | Leader Jeffries, welcome back to Meet the Press. | 杰弗里斯队长 欢迎回来见记者 |
| 0:11 | Good morning. | 早上好,你好吗? |
| 0:11 | Great to be with you. | 很高兴和你在一起。 |
| 0:12 | Great to have you back. | 很高兴你回来了。 |
| 0:13 | We appreciate it. | 我们对此表示赞赏。 |
| 0:14 | I do | и稱 |
| 0:15 | want to start with the recent midterm election results. | 想要从最近的中期选举结果开始。 |
| 0:18 | Seven Democratic | 七大民主党 |
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| 1 | Welcome back and joining me now is Democratic House Minority Leader Hakeem | 欢迎回来加入我 民主之家少数党领袖Hakeem |
| 2 | Jeffries of New York. | 纽约的杰夫 |
| 3 | Leader Jeffries, welcome back to Meet the Press. | 杰弗里斯队长 欢迎回来见记者 |
| 4 | Good morning. | 早上好,你好吗? |
| 5 | Great to be with you. | 很高兴和你在一起。 |
| 6 | Great to have you back. | 很高兴你回来了。 |
| 7 | We appreciate it. | 我们对此表示赞赏。 |
| 8 | I do | и稱 |
| 9 | want to start with the recent midterm election results. | 想要从最近的中期选举结果开始。 |
| 10 | Seven Democratic | 七大民主党 |
| 11 | incumbent House members have lost their seats this election cycle, Leader | 现任众议院议员已失去议席, |
| 12 | Jeffries, including some who you endorsed, who lost to more progressive | Jeffries,包括一些你赞同的人, 他们输给了更进步的 |
| 13 | candidates. | 候选人。 |
| 14 | What message do you think voters are trying to send? | 你认为选民想传达什么信息? |
| 15 | Well, I expect | и稱 |
| 16 | that there will be at least 220 members of the House Democratic Caucus when we | 届时至少将有220名众议院民主核心小组成员 |
| 17 | take back the majority, if not a number much greater than that. | 夺回多数,即使没有比这大得多的数目。 |
| 18 | And what is clear | 和什么是明确的 |
| 19 | is that the American people want us to focus on driving down the high cost of | 美国人民希望我们集中精力 降低高成本 |
| 20 | living and dealing with the affordability crisis that has created a | 生活和应对承受能力危机 |
| 21 | situation in this country where far too many people are working hard, they're | 这个国家的形势 太多的人在努力工作,他们是 |
| 22 | playing by the rules, but they can't thrive and can barely survive, which is | 但他们不能兴旺 几乎无法生存 |
| 23 | why we as House Democrats are committed to fighting for an affordable America | 为什么我们民主党人 致力于争取一个负担得起的美国 |
| 24 | every day, every week, every month until we solve this crisis. | 每天,每个星期,每个月,直到我们解决这场危机。 |
| 25 | I want to ask you | 我想问你 |
| 26 | about what is effectively a battle taking place inside the Democratic Party. | 在民主党内部发生的一场战斗。 |
| 27 | Longtime Democratic official Rahm Emanuel, who as you know is also eyeing a | 长期民主党官员Rahm Emanuel, 如你所知,他也在注视着一个 |
| 28 | potential run in 2028, recently described Democratic socialists this way. | 2028年的潜质运行,最近用这种方式描述了民主社会主义者. |
| 29 | Take a look. | 看看这个。 |
| 30 | You know, last weekend in Chicago, the DSA held a convention. | 你知道,上周在芝加哥, DSA举行了一个大会。 |
| 31 | You're not Democrats. | 你不是民主党人 |
| 32 | You're a separate party. | 你是一个单独的聚会。 |
| 33 | I'll see you in November. | 十一月见. |
| 34 | Do Democratic socialists belong in the Democratic Party, Leader Jeffries? | 民主社会主义者是否属于民主党,领袖杰弗里斯? |
| 35 | Well, what I can say is that I do not support defunding the police. | 好吧,我可以说,我不支持 取消对警察的资助。 |
| 36 | I do not support open borders. | 我不支持开放边界。 |
| 37 | I do not support abolishing the Senate | 我不赞成废除参议院 |
| 38 | We're focused on actually solving problems that hardworking American | 我们专注于解决那些勤劳的美国人的问题 |
| 39 | taxpayers want us to solve, which is to lower the high cost of living in a | 纳税人希望我们解决,那就是降低高生活成本 |
| 40 | situation where life is far too expensive in this country. | 这个国家的生活太昂贵 |
| 41 | That's the | 就是这样 |
| 42 | Democratic agenda. | 民主议程。 |
| 43 | That's what House Democrats are fighting to achieve. | 众议院民主党人正为此而奋斗. |
| 44 | Do you think, though, that there is room in the Democratic Party under the tent | 不过,你觉得 民主党在帐篷下面还有地方吗? |
| 45 | of the Democratic Party for Democratic socialists? | 民主党的社会主义者? |
| 46 | Is it big enough? | 够大吗? |
| 47 | Well, listen, I don't support the DSA agenda, as has been articulated by the | 听着,我不支持 DSA议程,正如已经阐明的 |
| 48 | DSA itself. | 每日生活津贴本身。 |
| 49 | Now, you're going to have individual members who have been | 现在,你将会有个人成员 谁已经 |
| 50 | elected in Democratic primaries, and if they are elected in the general in | 参加民主党初选,如果当选者为当选者 |
| 51 | November, will be part of the House Democratic caucus. | 11月,将参加众议院民主核心小组。 |
| 52 | It's going to be a | 这将是一个 |
| 53 | broad caucus. | 广泛核心小组。 |
| 54 | There will be progressives. | 必有进步者. |
| 55 | There will be New Dems. | 必有新德门. |
| 56 | There will be | 会有的 |
| 57 | What I'm excited about are the candidates who are running to flip seats in | 我最兴奋的是那些竞选的候选人 想要把席位翻过来 |
| 58 | November to deliver us a majority that pushes back against Donald Trump's | 11月给我们带来多数 推翻唐纳德·特朗普 |
| 59 | extremism and moves the country in the right direction. | 极端主义和使国家走向正确的方向。 |
| 60 | That means us House | 那意味着我们豪斯 |
| 61 | Democrats lowering the high cost of living in areas like groceries and gas | 民主党降低在杂货和天然气等地的高生活费用 |
| 62 | and, of course, housing and fighting to make health care affordable for every | 当然,还有住房和战斗,以使每个人能够负担得起医疗保健。 |
| 63 | single American, while at the same period of time pushing back against the | 在同一时间段,美国单身, 推动反美国 |
| 64 | corruption that has been unleashed on the American people and holding the | 美国人民遭受的腐败, |
| 65 | crooks accountable beginning on day one in January of next year. | 骗子从明年一月开始负责 |
| 66 | All right, well, let's talk about your agenda. | 好吧,好吧,让我们谈谈你的议程。 |
| 67 | If you do, in fact, find | 如果你这样做,事实上,找到 |
| 68 | yourself in power January of next year, one of the big issues, as you know, many | 明年一月,你掌权, 一个大问题,你知道,很多 |
| 69 | Democratic candidates have been talking about is abolishing ICE. | 民主党候选人一直在谈论废除ICE。 |
| 70 | If Democrats | 如果民主党 |
| 71 | win back the House, if you become Speaker, would you bring a vote to | 赢得众议院,如果你成为议长, 你会带来投票 |
| 72 | abolish ICE to the House floor? | 废除ICE到众议院? |
| 73 | Well, here's what I believe unites Democrats in terms of dealing with the | 我认为这样可以让民主党联合起来 |
| 74 | situation that we confront in this country. | 我们面对的这个国家的局势。 |
| 75 | First, we need a safe, secure | 首先,我们需要一个安全的,安全的 |
| 76 | and strong border. | 和强大的边界。 |
| 77 | We also need to proceed under the principle that | 我们还需要遵循以下原则: |
| 78 | immigration enforcement in this country should be fair, just and humane. | 这个国家的移民执法应当是公平、公正和人道的。 |
| 79 | And | 还有 |
| 80 | clearly, ICE is completely and totally out of control, which is why Democrats | 显然,ICE已经完全失控了 这就是为什么民主党 |
| 81 | in this Congress haven't given Donald Trump's violent mass deportation machine | 国会还没有给唐纳德·特朗普 暴力大规模驱逐机器 |
| 82 | a dime until we actually see dramatic, bold and transformational reform. | 一毛钱,直到我们真正看到 戏剧性、大胆和变革性的改革。 |
| 83 | That means ICE conducting itself like every other cop, police officer and law | 这意味着ICE像其他警察、警察和法律一样行事 |
| 84 | enforcement agency in this country, because we believe that taxpayer | 这个国家的执法机构,因为我们相信纳税人 |
| 85 | dollars should actually be used to make life more affordable for the American | 美元应该用来让美国人更负担得起生活 |
| 86 | people, as opposed to brutalizing and killing American citizens like Alex | 而不是像亚历克斯那样残忍地杀害美国公民 |
| 87 | Preti和Renee Nicole Goode, 或暴力攻击 遵守法律的移民, | |
| 88 | which is what ICE is doing right now. | 这就是ICE正在做的。 |
| 89 | It sounds like you're saying ICE should be reformed, not abolished. | 听起来你说的是 ICE应该改革而不是废除 |
| 90 | So just to | 所以就这样 |
| 91 | be very clear, would you bring a vote to actually abolish ICE to the House | 说得很清楚,你能否投票 真正废除ICE到众议院 |
| 92 | floor? | 地板? |
| 93 | Do you think that goes too far? | 你觉得这样太过分了吗? |
| 94 | What I've said is that we're committed to dramatically reforming ICE in a | 我说的是,我们承诺 大力改革 ICE在一个 |
| 95 | variety of different ways, consistent with what the American people want us | 符合美国人民对我们的期望 |
| 96 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}我们得去 | |
| 97 | In other words, the mask should come off, body cameras should come on, | 换句话说,面具应该脱下来, 身体摄像头应该来, |
| 98 | ICE在进入 | |
| 99 | the American people, rip them out of their bed in the dead of night, and try | 美国人民,在夜幕中把他们从床上撕下来 |
| 100 | to detain them without justification. | 毫无理由地拘留他们。 |
| 101 | We also need to make sure that ICE | 我们还需要确保ICE |
| 102 | agents are actually subject to prosecution at the state and local level | 特工人员实际上要受到州和地方各级的起诉 |
| 103 | so that they can be held criminally accountable when they break the law. | 以便他们在违法时被追究刑事责任。 |
| 104 | That's not what's happening right now. | 这不是现在发生的事情。 |
| 105 | When you have a justice department under | 当您有一个司法部门 |
| 106 | Todd Blanch, for instance, that's become a wholly owned subsidiary of the Trump | 以托德·布兰奇为例,他已经成为特朗普的全资子公司. |
| 107 | cartel and Donald Trump's extreme agenda, as opposed to standing up for the | 卡特尔和唐纳德·特朗普的极端议程,而不是支持 |
| 108 | rule of law. | 法治。 |
| 109 | All right. | 好吧,我们走。 |
| 110 | Let's move on to Medicare for All. | 我们继续享受全民医保吧 |
| 111 | You co-sponsored Medicare for All | 你协办了全民医保 |
| 112 | legislation from 2013 to 2021. | 2013年至2021年立法。 |
| 113 | You've not co-sponsored it since you became | 你从小就没参加过赞助会 |
| 114 | Democratic leader. | 民主领袖. |
| 115 | Will you put Medicare for All up for a vote if you become | 你会把医疗保障 所有人投票 如果你成为 |
| 116 | speaker? | 扬声器? |
| 117 | Well, listen, these are all conversations that the House Democratic Caucus is | 听着 这些都是众议院民主党党团的谈话 |
| 118 | going to have to have. | 必须要有。 |
| 119 | Right now, we're focused on November 3rd, not January 3rd. | 现在,我们专注于11月3日,而不是1月3日. |
| 120 | What we are promising the American people is that we're going to fight to | 我们向美国人民保证,我们将会奋战 |
| 121 | make health care affordable for every single American. | 让每一个美国人都能负担得起医疗费用 |
| 122 | And we know there's a | 我们知道有 |
| 123 | lot of damage that Republicans have done that we've got to restore and repair. | 共和党人造成的很多破坏 我们必须修复和修复。 |
| 124 | For instance, Republicans have enacted the largest cut to Medicaid in American | 例如,共和党人颁布了美国最大的医疗补助计划 |
| 125 | history. | 历史 |
| 126 | More than a trillion dollars or so has been cut from Medicaid. | 超过一万亿美元 从医疗补助。 |
| 127 | And what you're going to have is about 14 million Americans lose access to | 你会得到的 是大约1400万美国人 失去了进入 |
| 128 | health care. | 卫生保健。 |
| 129 | Do you personally support Medicare for All? | 你个人支持全民医保吗? |
| 130 | No, as you indicated, I haven't co-sponsored the Medicare for All | 不,正如你所说,我还没有联合赞助全民医保 |
| 131 | legislation that has been introduced over the last several years. | 过去几年中实施的立法。 |
| 132 | I do think we need to figure out how to fix our broken health care system and | 我认为我们需要找出 如何修复我们破碎的卫生保健系统 |
| 133 | then build something better once we repair the damage that has been done. | 一旦我们修复了已经造成的破坏 就能造出更好的东西 |
| 134 | Now, that will include doing things like extending the Affordable Care Act tax | 现在,这将包括做一些事情,比如延长 负担得起的护理法税 |
| 135 | credits so that more than 20 million people who have seen their health | * 提供信贷,使2 000多万人看到自己的健康; |
| 136 | insurance premiums skyrocket in some cases by up to a thousand dollars a | 在某些情况下,保险费猛涨,最高达1 000美元a |
| 137 | month. | 一个月。 |
| 138 | That's not sustainable. | 这是不可持续的。 |
| 139 | And that's something that Donald Trump and Republicans have visited upon the | 唐纳德·特朗普和共和党人也曾访问过 |
| 140 | American people. | 美国人民。 |
| 141 | Just to be very clear, though, as a Democratic leader in the House, would you | 不过要说得很清楚 作为众议院的民主党领袖 |
| 142 | vote for or against Medicare for All? | 投票支持还是反对全民医保? |
| 143 | I think as you indicated in your question to me, it's not legislation that I | 我认为,正如你在向我提出的问题中指出的那样, 这不是立法,我 |
| 144 | currently am co-sponsoring or that I support. | 目前为共同提案国,或我支持。 |
| 145 | But we do support the notion that we've got to find a path forward to fix our | 但是,我们确实支持这样的观念,即我们必须找到一条前进的道路来修复我们 |
| 146 | broken health care system and make health care affordable for every single | 打破保健系统,使每个人负担得起保健 |
| 147 | American. | 美国人 |
| 148 | All right, let's turn to the Supreme Court. | 好吧,让我们去最高法院。 |
| 149 | This week, you called for dramatic reform to the Supreme Court. | 这周,你向最高法院呼吁进行戏剧性的改革。 |
| 150 | Former Vice President Kamala Harris has called for expanding the court to 13 | 前副总统卡马拉·哈里斯要求将法庭扩大到13个 |
| 151 | justices. | 正义者。 |
| 152 | Do you support adding more justices to the court, Leader Jeffries? | 你支持为法庭增加更多法官吗 杰弗里斯领袖 |
| 153 | What I support is dramatic reform. | 我支持的是戏剧性改革。 |
| 154 | And what that looks like to begin with is making sure that the Supreme Court | 一开始看起来是要确保最高法院 |
| 155 | actually has an ethical code of conduct so that they're not able to simply | 实际上,他们有一个道德的行为守则 让他们不能简单地 |
| 156 | conduct themselves in ways that are inconsistent with the notion in this | 行为方式不符合《公约》中 |
| 157 | country that no one is above the law. | 国家无人凌驾于法律之上。 |
| 158 | And that should actually include Supreme Court justices. | 这实际上应该包括最高法院的法官。 |
| 159 | And we've seen right wing justices like Thomas and Alito engage in behavior that | 我们见过托马斯和阿里托等 右翼法官的行为 |
| 160 | is ethically questionable at best. | 道德上最有问题 |
| 161 | That has to change because the American people should have confidence in the | 这必须改变 因为美国人民应该相信 |
| 162 | highest court in the land. | 国家最高法庭。 |
| 163 | Now, in terms of the broad reforms that are going to be necessary to actually | 现在,从需要进行的广泛改革来看, |
| 164 | deliver a court that's functioning like a separate and co-equal branch of | 提供一个法庭 运作 像一个单独和平等的分支 |
| 165 | government, as opposed to what we saw, for instance, with respect to the Calais | 政府,而不是我们看到的,例如关于加来岛 |
| 166 | decision, where the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act in ways that do | 判决,最高法院以这样的方式废除了《表决权法》 |
| 167 | Yes, I have a problem with that. | 是的,我有一个问题。 |
| 168 | It's inconsistent with the law and with the Constitution. | 与法与宪相违. |
| 169 | Now, Jamie Raskin, the top Democrat on the Judiciary Committee and other Judiciary | Jamie Raskin 司法委员会和其他司法机构的最高民主党人 |
| 170 | Committee Dems are going to take the lead on what dramatic reform of the Supreme | 德姆斯委员会将领导 如何戏剧性地改革最高 |
| 171 | Court looks like. | 看来是法庭 |
| 172 | Very quickly, Leader Jeffries, I want to get your take on what you are anticipating | 很快,杰弗瑞斯队长,我想得到你所期待的 |
| 173 | in November. | 11月的时候 |
| 174 | You have said failure is not an option when it comes to winning back the House. | 你说在赢回众议院的时候失败不是选择 |
| 175 | Former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has said she wants Democrats to win at | 前众议院议长南希·佩洛西说她想让民主党获胜 |
| 176 | least 30 seats. | 至少30个座位 |
| 177 | Is that realistic? | 这是现实吗? |
| 178 | How many seats do you think Democrats are going to win? | 你认为民主党能赢得多少席位? |
| 179 | Well, we're going to work as hard as we can to get to 218 and then win as many | 我们要尽力争取到218 然后赢得尽可能多的 |
| 180 | seats above that as possible so we can actually deliver a Congress that is | 席次越多越好 我们就能举行国会 |
| 181 | focused on making life better for the American people, on making life more | 专注于让美国人民过上更美好的生活,让生活更加美好 |
| 182 | affordable, on ensuring that people can't simply survive, which is the challenge | 在确保人们无法生存方面,这是挑战 |
| 183 | right now, but are able to thrive in this great country of ours moving forward. | 现在,但能在我们的伟大国家中兴旺发展。 |
| 184 | All right, Leader Jeffries, thank you very much. | 好的,杰弗里队长,非常感谢你 |
| 185 | We will track everything from now until November. | 从现在开始到11月,我们将追踪一切情况。 |
| 186 | Appreciate your being here. | 谢谢你能来 |
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