事实核查辩论：关于偏执、言论自由与经济 | 2026.7.1
字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:01 | Hello and welcome to Checkmate, the debate show where fact-checking your opponent wins you the game. | 你好,欢迎来到"将军",辩论节目 在那里检查你的对手 赢得比赛。 |
| 0:07 | Freedom of speech is protecting freedom of speech that you hate. | 言论自由是保护你讨厌的言论自由。 |
| 0:12 | Nope. | 没有 |
| 0:12 | Black kids that come from the wealthiest families commit the same amount of crime. | 黑人孩子来自最富有的家庭 犯下同样数量的罪行。 |
| 0:16 | Or even more than, for example, white kids that come from like $30,000 median household income. | 比起白人孩子 家庭收入中位数30,000美元还要多 |
| 0:21 | Perfect. | 不错 |
| 0:22 | Get that one. | 抓住那个 |
| 0:22 | You want to bet $100? | 你想赌100美元吗? |
| 0:24 | Sure, I'll bet $100. | 当然,我赌100美元。 |
| 0:25 | Okay. | 摆 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Hello and welcome to Checkmate, the debate show where fact-checking your opponent wins you the game. | 你好,欢迎来到"将军",辩论节目 在那里检查你的对手 赢得比赛。 |
| 2 | Freedom of speech is protecting freedom of speech that you hate. | 言论自由是保护你讨厌的言论自由。 |
| 3 | Nope. | 没有 |
| 4 | Black kids that come from the wealthiest families commit the same amount of crime. | 黑人孩子来自最富有的家庭 犯下同样数量的罪行。 |
| 5 | Or even more than, for example, white kids that come from like $30,000 median household income. | 比起白人孩子 家庭收入中位数30,000美元还要多 |
| 6 | Perfect. | 不错 |
| 7 | Get that one. | 抓住那个 |
| 8 | You want to bet $100? | 你想赌100美元吗? |
| 9 | Sure, I'll bet $100. | 当然,我赌100美元。 |
| 10 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 11 | I'm your host, Paris Rose, and today it's liberals versus conservatives. | 我是你的东道主 巴黎玫瑰 今天是自由派对保守派 |
| 12 | Let's meet the liberals. | 我们来见见自由派 |
| 13 | Hey, I'm Mason. | 嘿,我是梅森。 - 嘿,我是梅森。 |
| 14 | I'm a progressive. | 我是个进步者。 |
| 15 | Hi, I'm Evan. | 嗨,我是埃文。 \ N |
| 16 | I'm a leftist. | 左师曰. |
| 17 | Hi, I'm Hunter. | 嗨,我是猎人。 |
| 18 | I'm a no-kings progressive. | 我是一个无国王进步。 |
| 19 | Hi, I'm Zia. | 嗨,我是齐亚。 |
| 20 | I'm a progressive liberal. | 我是一个进步的自由主义者。 |
| 21 | Alright, I love the no-kings. | 好吧,我喜欢没有国王。 |
| 22 | Alright, now let's meet the conservatives. | 好吧,现在让我们来看看保守派。 |
| 23 | I'm Micah. | 我是麦加。 |
| 24 | I'm a conservative. | 我是一个保守派。 |
| 25 | I'm Jake. | и琌城 |
| 26 | I'm a capitalist. | 我是资本家 |
| 27 | I'm Matt. | 我是马特。 |
| 28 | I'm a classical conservative. | 我是一个古典保守主义者。 |
| 29 | And I'm Dominique. | 我是多明我会的 |
| 30 | I'm a free-market conservative. | 我是自由市场保守派 |
| 31 | Players, the game is simple. | 玩家,游戏很简单. |
| 32 | If the other side says something falls, hit your button and our fact checkers will verify it live. | 如果对方说有东西掉下来,按下你的按钮, 我们的事实检查员会验证它是活的。 |
| 33 | If you're right, your team gets a point. | 如果你是对的, 你的团队得到一个点。 |
| 34 | And if you're wrong, the other team gets a point. | 如果你错了, 另一支队伍得到一个点。 |
| 35 | But remember, you can only press your button once per prompt. | 但记住,每次按下按钮都不行 |
| 36 | So push it wisely. | 故明智推之. |
| 37 | You guys ready? | 你们准备好了吗? |
| 38 | Are you guys ready? | 你们准备好了吗? |
| 39 | Yeah! | 对! |
| 40 | The first checkmate prompt is... | 第一个验尸符是... |
| 41 | Heads or tails? | 头还是尾巴? |
| 42 | Heads. | 头曰. |
| 43 | Tails. | 纹身。 |
| 44 | Cool. | 凉爽。 |
| 45 | Your time starts now. | 你的时间开始了。 |
| 46 | Okay, so when I think about quality of life, I tend to first think about things like healthcare, right? | 好吧,所以当我想到生活质量, 我倾向于首先思考的事情 像保健,对不对? |
| 47 | Like you want to live a long time. | 譬如欲长寿. |
| 48 | So I want to first start by talking about affordability with our healthcare in this country. | 因此,我想首先谈谈我国的保健费用。 |
| 49 | So I assume as a conservative, you're not a fan of Obamacare. | 所以我假设你是个保守派 你不是奥巴马的粉丝 |
| 50 | The Affordable Care Act did indeed not make healthcare affordable, but it did decrease the amount of uninsured individuals. | 《负担得起的保健法》确实使保健负担不起,但它确实减少了没有保险的个人的数量。 |
| 51 | Which is a good thing, I would think, right? | 我觉得这是件好事 对吧? |
| 52 | Well, the idea of decreasing those who are uninsured is great, | 那么,减少那些没有保险的人的想法是伟大的, |
| 53 | but the affordable part of the Affordable Care Act actually didn't make insurance more affordable. | 但《负担得起的护理法》的可负担部分实际上并没有使保险更能负担。 |
| 54 | It actually doubled people's premiums. | 实际上,它使人们的保险费翻了一番。 |
| 55 | It doubled deductibles by 100 plus percent. | 其扣除额翻了一番 增加了100倍 |
| 56 | So as I would say, I don't think Obamacare or the Affordable Care Act went far enough, right? | 所以,我想说,我不认为奥巴马护理 或负担得起的护理法案 已经足够,对不对? |
| 57 | We can agree on that. | 我们可以同意这一点。 |
| 58 | I'm way more progressive than what the Affordable Care Act did. | 我比《付得起的护理法》更进步 |
| 59 | But again, we're talking about affordability in terms of having healthcare cost less in this country. | 但是,我们还是要说, 在这个国家,医疗费用要低一些, 负担得起。 |
| 60 | When people go to emergency rooms and they don't have preventative care, | 当人们去急诊室 而他们没有预防护理, |
| 61 | that means that we are paying more ultimately as a taxpayer. | 这意味着我们最终要以纳税人的身份付款。 |
| 62 | Is that what you want as a conservative? | 你想当保守派吗? |
| 63 | No, but again, Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, it decreased network sizes, | 不,但奥巴马护理, 负担得起的护理法案, 它缩小网络规模, |
| 64 | it decreased physicians within networks, and it hasn't actually produced better healthcare options for Americans. | 它减少了网络中的医生, 它并没有真正为美国人提供更好的医疗保健选择。 |
| 65 | It's increased the cost for privatized health insurance. | 它增加了私有化健康保险的成本. |
| 66 | But you just admitted people who are more insured. | 但你刚刚接纳了那些有保险的人 |
| 67 | Being insured but that insurance not covering what you need or there being higher deductibles | 投保,但保险不涵盖你需要的或可扣除的金额较高 |
| 68 | doesn't mean the outcome is better healthcare. | 也不代表结果会更好 |
| 69 | But what is better, right? | 但有什么更好,对不对? |
| 70 | Do you want them to just not be insured at all? | 你想让他们完全不保险吗? |
| 71 | Do you want there to be no caps, no insurance, nothing, no regulation? | 你想没有上限,没有保险,什么都没有,没有规章吗? |
| 72 | But did you not just hear what I said? | 你没听到我说的话吗? |
| 73 | Deductibles have increased for families by 100 percent. | 家庭扣减率增加了100%。 |
| 74 | So the cost has actually been absorbed by the American people. | 因此这一成本实际上已经被美国人民吸收. |
| 75 | So I wouldn't say that that's a net benefit just because the number of uninsured decreased from 14 percent to 8 percent. | 所以我不会说这只是净福利 只是因为没有保险的人数从14%下降到8%。 |
| 76 | Where should the cost be absorbed? | 费用应在何处匀支? |
| 77 | The private health industry. | 民营卫生事业. |
| 78 | And how is that going to help? | 这有什么用? |
| 79 | Isn't the private health industry literally the entire reason why we have these insane costs for things like insulin to begin with? | 私人保健行业难道不是 我们为胰岛素 付出这些疯狂代价的原因吗? |
| 80 | Yeah, I'm not a fan of big pharma. | 是啊,我不是一个粉丝 大药。 |
| 81 | I think we should incentivize it. | 我认为我们应该激励它。 |
| 82 | You literally just said that. | 你刚才就是这么说的 |
| 83 | No, health insurance is not the same as pharmaceutical costs. | 不,医疗保险与医药费用不同。 |
| 84 | You just said that you want it to be more privatized. | 你刚才说你想把它私有化 |
| 85 | Yeah, for health insurance. | 是的,为医疗保险。 |
| 86 | That doesn't make any sense if you care about affordability. | 如果你在乎承受能力,那就毫无意义了。 |
| 87 | Private insurance is the reason why our medications cost so much. | 私人保险是我们药费如此昂贵的原因。 |
| 88 | It increased the American families' cost of insurance by over 100 percent. | 它使美国家庭的保险成本增加了100%以上. |
| 89 | You didn't contend with, okay, so the American people should absorb 100 percent increase. | 所以美国人民应该吸收百分之百的增长 |
| 90 | Well, actually, I want a Medicare for All system, actually. | 嗯,实际上,我想要一个全民医保系统,实际上。 |
| 91 | Okay, again, you can want that, but we're talking about cost of living and affordability. | 好吧,再次,你可以想要, 但我们谈论的是生活成本和可负担性。 |
| 92 | Yeah, if you want affordability, then you would be for Medicare for All. | 是的,如果你想买得起, 那你会是全民医保。 |
| 93 | We're going to move on from health care. | 我们要从医疗领域出发 |
| 94 | Okay, great. | 好吧,伟大的。 |
| 95 | They don't want to talk about health care because she knows she's going to lose. | 他们不想谈医疗 因为她知道她会输 |
| 96 | Let's talk about more affordability. | 让我们来谈谈更多的负担能力。 |
| 97 | I didn't lose. | 我没有输 |
| 98 | You cannot contend with the fact that before the Affordable Care Act ... | 你无法反驳一个事实: 在《负担得起的护理法》之前... |
| 99 | I already told you that, but let's go. | 我已经告诉你了,但我们走吧。 |
| 100 | Let's go move on. | 让我们继续前进。 |
| 101 | No, but you didn't provide a policy that would then correct that. | 不,但你没有提供 政策,然后纠正这一点。 |
| 102 | I just told you Medicare for All. | 我刚刚告诉你 全民医保。 |
| 103 | I just gave you a policy. | 我只是给你一个政策。 |
| 104 | You could say Medicare for All, but I just demonstrated how increasing public health | 你可以说全民医保 但我刚刚演示了 如何提高公众健康 |
| 105 | care has increased the cost for American families by 100 percent. | 护理使美国家庭的费用增加了100%。 |
| 106 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 107 | All right, Mason, I see you pressed your button. | 好吧,梅森,我看到你按了你的按钮。 |
| 108 | What would you like fact-checked? | 你想要什么事实检查? |
| 109 | The debater specifically said that public investment is more expensive than the free | 辩论者特别指出,公共投资比免费投资更为昂贵。 |
| 110 | market when it comes to overall national coverage. | (a) 市场在涉及全国整体覆盖时。 |
| 111 | I specifically was waiting for an affirmative claim that had nothing to do with the | 我特别在等一个肯定的主张 和他无关 |
| 112 | Affordable Care Act ... | 《负担得起的护理法》。 |
| 113 | You waited for me to say public. | 你等着我公开说 |
| 114 | A wrong statement, yes. | 一个错误的说法,是的。 |
| 115 | No, but we've been talking about the Affordable Care Act this entire time. | 不,但我们一直在谈论 支付得起的护理法案 这整个时间。 |
| 116 | Also, I was, I was talking about the Affordable Care Act this entire time. | 而且,我一直在谈论 支付得起的护理法案 这整个时间。 |
| 117 | Okay, okay. | 好,好,好,我们走 |
| 118 | Also, I was, I was talking about the Affordable Care Act, this entire time. | 而且,我是,我是在谈论 《负担得起的护理法》, 这整个时间。 |
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