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马萨诸塞州州长选举辩论:海莉vs米诺格 | 2026.10.

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0:02As governor, I am focused on lowering costs.作为州长,我专注于降低成本。
0:06Democrat Maura Healey fighting for a second term.马乌拉民主党 希雷再战二期.
0:09Republican Mike Minogue arguing it's time for a change.共和党人迈克·米诺格(英语:Mike Minogue)认为现在是改变的时候了.
0:13This is more than a campaign.这不仅仅是一场运动。
0:15This is a movement.这是一个运动。
0:17Now, the candidates for governor make their final case现在,州长候选人最后陈述
0:21to the voters of Massachusetts.给马萨诸塞州的选民
0:23From skyrocketing costs to housing and immigration从激增的费用到住房和移民
0:27and the deep political divide looming large政治分歧日益严重
0:30over every race in the nation.超越全国所有种族
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1As governor, I am focused on lowering costs.作为州长,我专注于降低成本。
2Democrat Maura Healey fighting for a second term.马乌拉民主党 希雷再战二期.
3Republican Mike Minogue arguing it's time for a change.共和党人迈克·米诺格(英语:Mike Minogue)认为现在是改变的时候了.
4This is more than a campaign.这不仅仅是一场运动。
5This is a movement.这是一个运动。
6Now, the candidates for governor make their final case现在,州长候选人最后陈述
7to the voters of Massachusetts.给马萨诸塞州的选民
8From skyrocketing costs to housing and immigration从激增的费用到住房和移民
9and the deep political divide looming large政治分歧日益严重
10over every race in the nation.超越全国所有种族
11To be clear, Trump is on the ballot.说清楚,特朗普在选票上.
12Those are things that Maura Healey is lying about.这些是毛拉·希利在撒谎的事
13Tonight, our panel takes your questions今晚,我们的小组接受你的问题
14right to Maura Healey and Mike Minogue.给毛拉·海利和迈克·米诺格
15The final showdown starts right now.最终决赛现在开始
16Live from WCBB Channel 5,从WCBB频道5直播.
17in partnership with WBUR and the Boston Globe,与WBUR和波士顿环球网合作,
18and in collaboration with El Planeta并与《星球报》合作a
19and the Bay State Banner,和海湾州的银行,
20this is the Massachusetts race for governor, Final Debate.这是马萨诸塞州州长赛,最后辩论。
21Now, your moderator, Ed Harding.现在,你的主持人,艾德哈丁。
22Massachusetts has a big choice to make,马萨诸塞州有个很大的选择
23and the voters want their voices heard.选民们希望听到他们的声音。
24This has been the scene outside WCBB studios这是WCBB工作室外面的场景
25all night tonight, and this is the scene inside,今晚整夜 里面就是这个场景
26inside Studio C.C工作室内部
27Good evening, everyone,晚上好,大家好,谢谢
28and thank you for joining us tonight并感谢你今晚加入我们
29for the final gubernatorial debate, I'm Ed Harding.最后的州长辩论,我是艾德哈丁。
30And tonight, the two top candidates for governor今晚,两位州长候选人
31will go head-to-head on this debate stage.在这个辩论阶段,我们将直接讨论。
32Democratic Governor Maura Healey is running for re-election,民主总督莫拉 海利竞选连任
33hoping to win another four years on Beacon Hill.希望能在灯塔山再赢四年
34Republican Mike Minogue is challenging her,共和党人迈克·米诺格在挑战她
35hoping to move into the corner office.希望搬进角落办公室
36Questions tonight will be asked by our panelists.今晚我们的小组成员将提出问题。
37他们是Sharmin Siketty, WCBB的政治记者,
38Adrian Walker, Boston Globe associate editor and columnist,阿德里安·沃克 波士顿环球网副编辑兼专栏作家
39还有Tisiana Dearing WBUR晨报的主持人
40Here's the format, and it's a familiar format for you这是你熟悉的格式
41for tonight's debate.今晚的辩论。
42Each candidate will have one minute for responses,每个候选人将有一分钟的时间答复,
4330 seconds for rebuttals.30秒的反驳
44They will have one minute each for closing statements他们各有一分钟的闭幕发言
45at the end of the hour.在时间的尽头。
46There will be no commercial breaks tonight,今晚不会有商业休息
47so we're gonna go straight from eight until nine.所以我们要从8到9直走
48And we begin tonight with an issue我们今晚开始讨论一个问题
49that's hitting families hard,这对家庭打击很大,
50and we're talking about the cost of living.我们谈论的是生活成本。
51Nationwide, food prices are up nearly 35% since 2020.全国粮食价格自2020年以来上涨近35%.
52Massachusetts has some of the highest housing costs马萨诸塞州的住房成本最高
53in the nation.在国家。
54The median home listing closing price房屋上市价格中位数
55is closing in on $800,000 last year,去年要收80万美元
56and the average price for a gallon of regular gas和一加仑正常气体的平均价格
57is $4.30.为4.30美元。
58Sharmin Siketty has our first question tonight, Shar.沙尔,沙曼・西基特今晚有我们的第一个问题
59All right, thanks, Ed.好吧,谢谢,埃德。
60This is a question for both of you.这是你们俩的问题
61You've both said that you would suspend the gas tax你们俩都说过要暂停煤气税
62in Massachusetts.在马萨诸塞州。
63What other tax cuts or changes would you make你还会做什么减税或改变?
64to reduce costs for Massachusetts families?减少马萨诸塞州家庭的费用?
65Governor Haley.海利总督
66Thank you, Sharmin,谢谢你,沙曼
67and thank you everyone at home for tuning in.感谢大家在家里的调整。
68I do wanna acknowledge the tragedy in Oregon,我想承认俄勒冈的悲剧
69and to extend, on behalf of Massachusetts,并代表马萨诸塞
70our love and prayers to the people in Oregon right now我们的爱和祈祷 俄勒冈人民现在
71and those families.还有那些家庭
72So look, we're in a challenging situation你看,我们处于一个挑战性的局面
73as a country right now economically,作为一个国家 现在经济,
74and I began as governor,我开始担任州长,
75the first thing I did was cut taxes.我所做的第一件事是减税。
76I'm the first governor in 20 years to actually cut taxes,我是20年来第一个减税的州长
77and I did that out of the gate.我从城门走出来
78Now, they weren't tax cuts for the wealthy.现在,他们不是对富人的减税。
79They were tax cuts for seniors and parents这是对老人和父母的减税
80and young people and small businesses.年轻人和小企业。
81But in terms of the gas tax,但是在天然气税方面
82we have a difference of opinion on this.我们对此意见不一。
83I think it should be for a limited time,我认为应该有一段时间
84and I would do it in a way that would make sure我会以一定的方式做到这一点
85that the oil companies weren't making out,石油公司没有亲热,
86but that the ones who are really getting the benefit但那些真正得到好处的人
87are actual drivers, and that's what I have,真正的司机, 这就是我拥有的,
88that's what I propose.我提议
89But make no mistake about it.但是不要犯错
90We're only having this conversation我们只谈这个
91because we've got a president who's taken us to war,因为我们有一个总统 谁带我们打仗,
92who long ago put on tariffs and has done other things他们早就加征了关税 做了其他的事
93that have raised the cost of everything,使一切代价上升,
94and Americans across this country,和整个国家的美国人,
95including in Massachusetts, are paying the price.包括马萨诸塞州 都在付出代价
96Mr. Bideaux.毕道先生.
97So I also wanna reiterate what Governor Healey said.所以我还想重申海利总督的话
98As a father, my heart is breaking and more news is coming out.作为一个父亲,我的心碎了, 更多的消息出来了。
99So to think about tonight,所以想着今晚
100let's recognize the importance我们承认这一点
101of also always being together in moments like this.总是在这样的时刻在一起
102Now, in regard to the debate,关于辩论,
103we're gonna see two different visions for the future,我们将会看到两个不同的未来愿景,
104and in the last debate, Governor Healey said,在最后的辩论中,州长希利说,
105Massachusetts is a great place to live if you can afford it.马萨诸塞州是一个伟大的 生活的地方,如果你能负担得起。
106Again, it's a great place to live if you can afford it.复次如是供养如是大乘.
107That is the problem, people can't afford it.这就是问题所在,人们负担不起。
108And specific to your question, Sharman,和具体的问题,夏曼,
109we need to cut the gas tax now.我们现在需要削减天然气税。
110Yes, it went up because the Iran war,是的,因为伊朗战争,
111but we can give immediate relief.但我们可以立即解脱
112Let's help people right now.让我们现在帮助人们。
113We also should cut a third of our utility fees.我们还应削减三分之一的水电费。
114That is a burden on people that has nothing to do这是对无所事事的人的负担
115with the energy they use.用他们使用的能量。
116It is a climate tax.这是一种气候税。
117And the third is give parents choice.第三是给父母选择
118Give them the federal scholarship tax credit,给他们联邦奖学金税额减免,
119put thousands of dollars back in their pockets.把几千美元放回他们的口袋里
120So I will have the ability immediately to give people relief,因此,我将拥有立即给人们解脱的能力,
121give them back into their pockets $10,000 to $20,000,把它们放回口袋里 一万到二万块
122depending on their kids and what their bills are.取决于他们的孩子和他们的账单是什么。
123Governor, 30 seconds.州长,30秒
124Yeah, Massachusetts is a great place to live.是啊,马萨诸塞州是一个伟大的生活的地方。
125You better believe it.你最好相信这一点。
126We're number one with our schools我们是学校第一
127and in healthcare and innovation.保健与创新。
128We've got a really strong economy.我们的经济非常强劲。
129In fact, it's the fourth fastest growing economy事实上,它是第四增长最快的经济
130in the United States right now.现在在美国。
131And there's a reason why people come to live here,人们来此生活是有原因的
132to study here, to grow families here and to grow careers.在这里学习,在这里养家 并成长事业。
133I understand the challenges with costs.我理解挑战与成本。
134And that's why I've been working to build homes这就是为什么我一直在努力 建造家园
135as quickly as possible to lower costs,尽快降低成本,
136to lower healthcare costs by capping co-pays and deductibles通过限制共同付费和扣减额来降低保健费用;
137and getting rid of prior authorizations,并取消先前的授权,
138to bring in as much energy as possible尽可能多地带来能量
139so that we reduce people's electric and gas bills.这样我们就能减少电费和煤气费
140And I'm gonna continue to work on affordability我将继续研究买得起的
141every single day.每一天都这样
142But you know, as governor,但作为州长
143you should be proud of our state,你应该为我们的国家感到自豪,
144a cheerleader for our state, promoting our state.为我们的国家做啦啦队长,促进我们的国家。
145And that's what I will continue to do as governor我将继续做州长
146while we face our challenges.当我们面对挑战时
147So on schools, we have some of the vast,所以在学校,我们有一些巨大的,
148we also have the largest achievement gap in schools.我们还在学校成绩差距最大。
149So hopefully you read the federal scholarship tax credit所以希望你读到联邦奖学金税抵免
150and you're gonna tell everyone tonight,你今晚要告诉大家
151you're gonna opt in你会选择加入
152because it's so important to give kids the opportunity.因为给孩子们机会很重要
153The Boston Globe also has recommended that you opt in.波士顿环球报也建议你选择加入
154We have built homes,我们建造了许多房屋,
155but the things that are being built但正在建造的东西
156are all based on Charlie Baker's term.这些都是根据查理贝克的术语。
157Governor Healey is last in the nation海利总督是全国最后一位
158in permits per person.每人持有许可证。
159And the problem is in building,问题在于建筑
160it's the stretch codes that are not realistic.这是拉伸码 不现实。
161And the permitting time,和允许的时间,
162even for single family homes is over a year and a half.甚至对于单身家庭来说 家庭已经超过一年半了
163We need to get back to 45 days.我们需要回45天。
164We can then build high quality, low cost housing.然后我们可以建造高质量、低成本的住房。
165That's what we need to do instead of talking about it.这就是我们需要做的,而不是谈论它。
166Let's do it now.现在就做
167TC on endearing with the next question.TC在回答下一个问题
168这是给Minogue先生的
169While the state's overall population has grown虽然该州总人口有所增加
170because of immigration,因为移民,
171people who already live here are moving out已经住在这里的人要搬出去了
172to more than 33,000 people in a single year,一年中给33 000多人
173according to the Greater Boston Chamber of Commerce.根据大波士顿商会的说法
174And polls show more are afraid民意调查显示更多人害怕
175that the cost of living will drive them out.生活的代价会把他们赶走
176You just talked about getting permitting back to 45 days.你刚才说要回45天的许可
177You want to do that faster.你想快点
178How and how will you ensure你将如何确保
179that new housing stock will be affordable* 新住房存量将负担得起
180for the average person?对于普通人?
181So we can create a universal stretch code,这样我们就可以建立一个通用的拉伸码,
182but we do it based on giving more money back但我们这样做是基于 给更多的钱回来
183to towns and cities if they mandate如果市镇和城市授权
184and get rid of the stringent stretch codes we have today和摆脱严格的拉伸码 我们今天有
185on ventilation and all the other hookups.在通风和所有其他连接。
186We also are last in permitting because of bureaucracy.由于官僚主义,我们也是最后允许的。
187And if we go to the towns and the cities如果我们去城镇和城市
188and we respect their process,我们尊重他们的过程,
189but we give them an incentive instead of suing them,我鼓励他们而不起诉他们,
190like Governor Healey's administration is doing就像海利州长的行政部门一样
191if they won't build 1,500 condos,如果他们不建造1500个公寓
192give them the opportunity to grow.给他们成长的机会。
193That's what builders want.建业者所欲.
194Every builder that's watching this tonight每一个今晚看这个的建筑师
195knows the stretch codes are terrible.知道拉伸码很可怕
196Know it's very difficult to be able to make anything pencil要知道做铅笔很困难
197out and if you're doing a commercial property,出去,如果你做 一个商业财产,
198it's even harder.这更难。
199You're talking about three plus years.你说的是三年加一年
200So the focus has got to be to be more efficient.因此,重点必须更加高效。
201Governor Healey will have spent海利州长会花光的
202or put on bond debt $298 billion in her four years.或者在她4年里欠了2,980亿美元的债务
203That's nearly double Charlie Baker's first four years这几乎是查理贝克头四年的两倍
204and she's added the record amount of state employees.而且她还加入了创纪录的州雇员数量.
205That's also a burden on our economy.这也给我们的经济带来负担.
206That's why young people are leaving.这就是为什么年轻人要离开。
207We need jobs, we need businesses我们需要工作,我们需要生意
208to come back here and stay here.回来住在这里。
209Mike just said a whole bunch of things that just aren't true.迈克只是说了很多事情 只是不是真的。
210I don't know where you're getting your information.我不知道你从哪里得到信息
211Let me also say this.让我也这样说。
212People are coming to Massachusetts.人们会来马萨诸塞州
213Sure, we've had some people leave当然,我们有人走了
214and I'm working on housing costs every single day我每天都在研究住房费用
215because I want our young people因为我想要我们的年轻人
216to be able to stay in Massachusetts.才能留在马萨诸塞州
217But companies are coming.但公司来了。
218Takeda, Whoop, Gillette are deciding to come here武田,呼呼,吉莱特决定来这里
219and expand here.并在这里扩展。
220In the last year, we created 15,000 jobs alone.去年,我们单独创造了15,000个就业机会。
221So we're really on a rebound finally after COVID.COVID之后我们终于开始反弹了
222In terms of housing, this is important.在住房方面,这一点很重要。
223I wanna be clear.我想说清楚
224I did something that has never been done before as governor.我做了一些从未做过的事 作为州长。
225I set out a strong housing plan in my first year我第一年就订了一个很强的住房计划
226and here's what I did.这就是我做了什么。
227Not Charlie Baker, here's what I did.不是查理・贝克,这是我做了什么。
228Mike, you got an idea to cut permitting times.迈克,你有一个想法 削减允许的时间。
229I already did that.我已经做了。
230I beat you by 15 days.我赢了你15天。
231We cut permitting times from a year down to 30 days.我们把允许的时间从一年缩短到30天。
232We made ADU, something you can build我们制造了ADU,你可以建造的东西
233on your property by right.在你的财产 右。
234I offered up surplus land so that people could build housing我提供多余的土地 让人们可以建造住房
235and I gave tax credits to developers我给开发商减税
236to incent the production.以提升产量。
237And we've really ramped up thousands online而且我们真的在网络上增加了几千人
238of homes in gateway cities, affordable and market rich.在网关城市的住宅,负担得起和市场富裕。
239Mr. Minogue.米诺格先生
240People are coming here, but coming for the World Cup人们会来参加世界杯
241and watching soccer doesn't count because then they leave.看足球不算数,因为他们就走了
242And as far as the builds,至于建筑,
243when you say that things are underway,当你说事情正在发生时
244no one can live in underway.没有人能活在进行中。
245Governor Baker, he's responsible for the things贝克州长,他负责的事情
246that they're celebrating that they're building.他们在庆祝他们正在建设。
247We are last in the nation in permitting for a reason.我们是国家最后一个允许的原因。
248And that's why we don't see the buildings.故不见楼宇.
249That's why we have vacancy所以我们才有空缺
250and that's why people and businesses are leaving.所以人们和企业才会离开
251Everyone knows it.众皆知.
25230 seconds governor, if you care.30秒州长 如果你在乎的话
253I don't know what permitting he's talking about.我不知道他在说什么
254Again, Massachusetts state permitting再说一遍,马萨诸塞州允许
255has been slashed under my leadership在我的带领下被砍伤
256from a year down to 30 days.从一年到30天
257But that's sort of beside the point, right?但这有点离重点不远 对吧?
258The point here is that I am focused as governor这里的重心是,我专注于作为省长
259on the things that will drive our economy将推动我们的经济
260that will move us forward.这将推动我们前进。
261And that is lowering costs, building more homes,这就是降低成本,建造更多的住房,
262making healthcare more affordable* 使保健费用更低廉
263and investing in our education and our workforce,投资我们的教育和劳动力,
264which I've done as governor.我做州长了
265We'll have a conversation about education.我们来谈谈教育问题
266I am proud of Massachusetts schools.我为马萨诸塞州的学校感到骄傲。
267Time governor, thank you.时州长,谢谢
268Tisiana,你有一个跟踪。
269In follow governor Hilly in your first campaign,在你的第一次竞选中跟随希利州长
270you did promise to tackle out migration.你保证过要解决移民问题
271Domestic out migration is happening.国内移徙正在发生。
272People are leaving and housing has gotten more expensive.人们要离开 房子越来越贵了
273So what would be different in a second time?第二次有什么不同吗?
274Well, let's talk about that.好吧,让我们谈谈这个。
275Housing is expensive around the country.全国各地的住房都很昂贵。
276I talk to governors all the time我经常跟州长说话
277and housing costs have gone up since COVID.自COVID以来,住房费用上升。
278Now, Donald Trump has made that worse现在,唐纳德·特朗普已经把事情搞得更糟了
279by putting tariffs on all sorts of construction materials.对各种建筑材料征收关税。
280So that hasn't helped things, but we are building.所以,这没有帮助的东西, 但我们正在建设。
281And already because of the actions that I took as governor已经因为我作为州长的行动
282in my housing law, I listed the things that I've done.在我的住房法中 我列举了我做过的事
283We've been able to build, permit我们已经可以建造,允许
284or bring under development 100,000 homes.或将10万户住房纳入发展。
285I wanna double that in the next term.下一学期我要加倍
286We've got to build our way through to lower costs.我们必须设法降低成本。
287We have some people leaving,我们有一些人离开,
288sure people leave and come and go all the time.肯定有人离开 来来去去
289But I'm telling you, we are seeing companies expand here,但我告诉你,我们看到公司在这里扩张,
290employees come here and people wanting to be here.员工来到这里,人们想在这里。
291People wanting to be in Massachusetts想去马萨诸塞州的人
292cause we've got a strong economy.因为我们有强大的经济。
293And we're also a place that people can be sure.我们也是一个人们可以肯定的地方。
294We're gonna protect your rights,我们要保护你的权利,
295respect your freedom and take care.尊重你的自由,照顾好自己
296Mr. Menno.门诺先生
297Again, Massachusetts is a great place.马萨诸塞州也是个好地方
298If you can afford it is what she said.如果你能买得起,那就是她说的。
299She knows people can't afford it.她知道人们买不起
300There was an article today in the Boston Globe今天在波士顿环球报上有篇文章
301about another young person leaving, going to Austin, Texas.关于另一个年轻人离开 去德克萨斯州奥斯汀
302Rent is a third to half.租金是三分之一到一半
303They get more out of it.他们得到了更多的出来。
304And we are seeing an exodus of our young people.我们的年轻人正在外流。
30560% of the people leaving are between 25 and 44.离开的人中有60%在25到44岁之间。
306We see it, we know it with our families,我们看见它,我们知道它与我们的家人,
307with our friends, with our friends' kids.和我们的朋友, 和我们的朋友的孩子。
308That is what we need to do.这就是我们需要做的。
309We need to make this the best place to live, work,我们要让这里成为最好的生活,工作的地方
310raise a family, then people will stay.养一个家庭, 然后人们会留下来。
311Governor, Mr. Menno, watch the monitors please.州长 门诺先生 请看监视器
312Our next question is for both candidates here.我们的下一个问题是两位候选人
313And it comes from Brejay Williams它来自布雷杰·威廉姆斯
314with the Bay State Banner, listen.与湾州班纳,听着。
315Massachusetts is one of the most expensive states马萨诸塞州是最昂贵的州之一
316to live in in the country.住在乡下
317Making affordability a top concern for our voters.让我们的选民最关心的是买得起
318For black families, that pressure is compounded对黑人家庭来说,压力更大
319by a deep wealth gap.以巨大的财富差距发誓,
320The Federal Reserve Bank of Boston recently found波士顿联邦储备银行最近发现
321that the median black family has less than 2% of the wealth中位数黑人家庭财富不足2%
322than that of the median white family.比中间的白人家庭。
323As governor, what do you propose to do first作为州长,你打算先做什么?
324to address this racial disparity?解决这种种族差异?
325Governor Hurley, start it for us please.赫里州长,请开始吧
326One of the programs that I launched is a program我推出的一个程序是一个程序
327for first time home buyers.第一次买家。
328One of the reasons black households don't have the wealth黑人家庭没有财富的原因之一
329that white households have is that for decades,白人家庭有 几十年来,
330for centuries, they didn't have home ownership.几个世纪以来 他们没有房屋所有权
331I've changed that.我已经改变了这一点。
332My first time home buyers program gives you $25,000我第一次买家计划给你两万五
333towards your new home.朝你的新家走来
334I also got rid of broker's fees for renters.我也摆脱了经纪人的租房费。
335I've also worked on affordability我也研究过买得起的
336by making community college free, which is a game changer,通过让社区大学免费, 这是一个游戏的改变者,
337yes, for people of color here in our state,是的,对于我们州有色人种,
338but people generally, and I get thanked all the time但一般人, 我总是得到感谢
339for doing that, which has enabled people to go to college帮助人们上大学
340for free and learn and develop skills免费学习和发展技能;
341and become employed in Massachusetts.并受雇于马萨诸塞州
342That's a really good thing.这是件好事
343These are the kinds of investments that I've made这些是我投资的种类
344in our schools, in our workforce, and in housing在学校、劳动力和住房
345so that we can close those gaps.以便我们能够弥合这些差距。
346I started in public office我从公职开始
347as head of the civil rights division,作为公民权利司司长,
348and I continue to work as governor every day我每天继续做州长
349to close disparities that exist along racial lines.缩小种族差距。
350Mr. Minow.米诺先生
351What do we care about community college我们关心的是社区大学
352when the 60% of the high schoolers can't read and write当60%的高中生不能读写时
353at a proficient level?在熟练的水平?
354It's worse than that in the inner city.内城比之.
355So the first thing we have to do所以,我们要做的第一件事
356is give them the right education,即教化他们,
357give them vocational schools.给他们上职业学校。
358I was at Essex Tech, amazing school.我在Essex科技大学 上过很棒的学校
359They want jobs, they want a place to live, rent or buy,他们想要工作, 他们想要一个住的地方, 租或买,
360they want healthcare, and they want their kids他们想要医疗,他们想要孩子
361to have a great education.拥有一个伟大的教育。
362That is how you break the cycle of poverty.这就是你打破贫穷循环的方式。
363Please tell us tonight that you will opt in请告诉我们今晚你会选择加入
364to the federal scholarship tax credit for these people.对这些人的联邦奖学金税收抵免。
365This is the education that they need,这是他们需要的教育,
366and it breaks the cycle of poverty.它打破了贫穷的循环。
367Governor, do you have, would you like to answer that?州长,你愿意回答吗?
368The federal tax voucher thing is a tax policy.联邦税券是税收政策
369It is not an education policy.这不是一项教育政策。
370Let me tell you what I've done让我告诉你我做了什么
371in terms of education for Massachusetts.在马萨诸塞州的教育方面。
372I've doubled the funding for students across Massachusetts.我已经把马萨诸塞州的学生经费翻了一番
373I've invested in literacy, high dose tutoring.我投入了扫盲,高剂量辅导。
374I love vocational schools我爱职业学校
375and career technical education.职业技术教育。
376That's why under my leadership,这就是为什么在我的领导下,
377I've grown those by some 25,000 seats.我长了两万五千个座位
378I think we're making the right investments,我认为我们做正确的投资,
379and that's why today,这就是为什么今天,
380Massachusetts has the number one public schools马萨诸塞州第一公立学校
381in the country.在这个国家。
382And I thank our students, I thank our parents,感谢学生,感谢父母
383and I thank our teachers and educators for that.为此我感谢我们的教师和教育工作者。
384There's always more to do.总有余事.
385There's always more to do,还有很多事要做
386especially as we set young people up for success.特别是当我们培养年轻人以求成功。
387Mr. Minogue.米诺格先生
388Here we go, government.开始了,政府。
389More money, worse outcomes.更多的钱,更糟糕的结果。
390You did put more money in,你的确投入了更多的钱
391but the outcomes are worse.但结果更糟糕
39260% are not proficient in grammar school and high school60%不擅长文法学校和高中
393at reading and writing.阅读和写作。
394That's down from where it was in 2019.即从2019年的原貌下调.
395So we're doing something wrong.所以我们做错了什么。
396We're spending enough money.我们花了足够的钱。
397Let's opt in.让我们选择加入。
398It is an education policy.这是一项教育政策。
399Yes, we have some of the best schools.是的,我们有一些最好的学校。
400We also have some of the worst schools我们还有一些最差的学校
401and the largest achievement gap.和最大的成就差距。
402So if you care about the communities如果你关心社区
403that don't have the zip code and the money,没有拉链码和钱
404this is the way to help everyone.这是帮助每个人的方法。
405It's a great equalizer.谓大平等者.
406Please opt in and read the bill.请选择并阅读法案。
407Adrian Walker with the next question.下个问题叫阿德里安·沃克
408This question is for both of you.这个问题是给你们俩的
409Massachusetts State Police have opened马萨诸塞州警方已经开通了
410an internal affairs investigation内部事务调查
411after a trooper let a friend stay at the Martha Vineyard一个警察让一个朋友住在玛莎葡萄园后
412state police barracks and he allegedly raped a woman.据称他强奸了一名妇女。
413And that's just the latest scandal for the agency.这仅仅是这个机构的最新丑闻
414How would you change the culture of misconduct如何改变不端文化
415in the state police?在州警察局吗?
416Mr. Minogue.米诺格先生
417It starts with the leader.从头开始
418And we got to make sure that we have high expectations我们必须确保我们有很高的期望
419and we don't allow this other person我们不允许这另一个人
420shouldn't even have been there.甚至不应该在那里。
421It's a terrible thing.甚恶之.
422And as a person with two daughters作为一个有两个女儿的人
423and as a person that was raised a certain way,作为一个被培养的人,
424this is not acceptable in the culture.这在文化中是不能接受的。
425I will make sure that corruption is not tolerated.我会确保腐败不被容忍。
426And I also don't like the deals that are being cut我也不喜欢那些被削减的交易
427with the different unions to get endorsements.与不同的工会获得认可。
428The way this works is that we protect the people事情是这样的 我们保护人民
429that do the jobs.做这些工作。
430I will do ride arounds.我会到处骑马
431I will focus on keeping people safe.我将专注于保护人们的安全。
432And I will make sure the culture is about serving the people.我会确保文化是用来为人民服务的。
433And again, very simple philosophy.再说一遍,非常简单的哲学。
434I will protect the people who obey and follow the law我会保护服从法律的人
435from the people who don't.从不从者.
436And outside of that, we need to be very supportive除此之外,我们需要非常的支持
437of our people and any concerns they have.我们的人民和他们的任何关切。
438But this type of nonsense needs to be accountable.但是,这种胡言乱语需要承担责任。
439And we have a governor that doesn't hold people accountable,我们有一个州长 不追究人的责任,
440including Mr. Cook, which got severance package.包括库克先生,他得到了解职包。
441They were dealing drugs right in her building.他们在她楼里贩毒
442Governor.州长
443Gov.高维.
444Yellen.叶连.
445Yeah.对
446You know, Adrienne, I have a lot of respect阿德丽安,我很尊重你
447for the men and women in law enforcement.供男女执法者使用。
448And as a prosecutor, as attorney general,作为检察官,作为总检察长,
449I worked alongside them for many years.我和他们一起工作多年了
450And I'm proud of the Massachusetts State Police.我为马萨诸塞州警方感到骄傲
451You know, one of the first things I did as governor,我作为州长所做的第一件事
452remember, is I went outside of the agency记住,我出局了
453to hire Jeffrey Noble from New Jersey.从新泽西州聘请杰弗里·诺贝尔
454Colonel Noble has come in and with his management team诺贝尔上校来了 和他的管理团队
455done a wonderful job, in my view.在我看来,做得很好
456Do things happen?发生什么了吗?
457Sometimes things happen.有时事情会发生。
458But I can tell you, he and I make sure但我可以告诉你,他和我确定
459that swift action is taken.迅速采取行动。
460I am proud to have the support of local and state我对得到地方和州政府的支持感到骄傲
461law enforcement in this race.执法在这个种族。
462And that's because they know I have their back.那是因为他们知道我有他们的背
463They know I will support them他们知道我会支持他们
464and also look out for their families.还要照顾他们的家人
465The blue star plate that I recently did我最近做的蓝星盘
466was to give families the opportunity to honor someone给家人一个荣誉的机会
467in their family who was killed in the line of duty.在他们的家属中,谁因公殉职。
468Like, sadly, Trooper Kevin Traynor recently.就像,可悲的是,士兵凯文崔诺最近。
469You know, last week, if you want to say something你知道,上周, 如果你想说些什么
470about police, Adrienne, last week,关于警察,阿德丽安,上周,
471there was a little four-year-old boy lost in the woods.有个四岁小男孩在树林里迷路了
472And state police, we used all the assets州警,我们把所有资产都用光了
473and that little boy was found after a couple of hours.那个小男孩在几个小时后被发现了
474Look, whenever there's bad actors,听着 只要有坏演员
475whenever somebody does something wrong, illegal,每当有人做错什么,非法的,
476I am the first to take action.我是第一个采取行动的人。
477And anyone who is under me knows that我手下的人都知道
478and carries that out, including Colonel Noble.包括诺贝尔上校
479Mike, if you, Mike Minogue, if you'd like to say something.迈克,如果你,迈克·米诺格, 如果你想说些什么。
480I think the governor just said sometimes things happen.我想州长刚刚说有时会出事
481That is unacceptable.这是不可接受的。
482A woman was raped.一名妇女被强奸。
483Sometimes things happen is not acceptable.有时发生的事情是无法接受的。
484And when you have people that break the law当你有人违法时
485or do things wrong, you are judged on your accountability.或做错事, 你被评判的责任。
486What do you do when things go wrong?当事情出问题时你做什么?
487How are you gonna act and how are you gonna make sure你要怎么行动 如何确保
488it never happens again?永远不再发生?
489That's what leaders do.领导者就是这样做的.
490They don't accept bad things.他们不接受坏事
491You hold the bar high on integrity你高举律师的正直
492and anyone that doesn't meet it,和没有遇到它的人,
493they are removed immediately.他们立即被带走。
494That's what has to happen.须达此法.
495But in the government, we don't have that.但是在政府里 我们没有这个
496You blame others, you make excuses.你责怪别人,你找借口
497In the real world, people have consequences.在现实世界中,人们有后果.
498People get fired.人们会被开除。
499And in your administration,在你的管理中,
500someone can pull a woman's hair and not get fired有人可以拉女人的头发,而不会被解雇
501and pay out $500,000 that is being paid for it并支付50万美元 正在支付它
502by the taxpayer.纳税人。
503Someone can get 18 pounds of cocaine delivered有人可以送18磅可卡因
504and you didn't fire them.而你没有解雇他们。
505They got arrested, then they got severance.他们被逮捕,然后被解职。
506And now they're on SNAP benefits现在,他们得到了SNAP福利
507that you didn't even check on.你甚至没有检查。
508Governor, please respond.州长 请回复
509I will, as somebody who has prosecuted wrongdoers我会的 作为起诉不法分子的人
510and represented survivors and victims of sexual abuse,并代表性虐待的幸存者和受害者,
511the question was about what happened between civilians.问题是平民之间发生了什么。
512And importantly, that victim is having her rights重要的是 那个受害者拥有她的权利
513vindicated right now.现证正法.
514The perpetrator was a civilian,1. 行为人是平民,
515not a member of the state police.不是州警人员
516But in terms of the other comments,但从其他评论来看,
517I fired Lamar Cook before he was even arraigned.在拉玛库克被传讯之前 我解雇了他
518I fired him before he was even arraigned.在他被传讯之前 我开除了他
519It was Massachusetts State Police是马萨诸塞州警察
520who participated in that investigation and apprehended him.他参与了调查并逮捕了他。
521And I got a call that morning that it happened,那天早上我接到一个电话 说事情发生了
522Saturday morning, he was fired that day.星期六早上,他被解雇了当天。
523I don't accept any wrongdoing.我不接受任何错误
524And I have had a career of a...我有一个事业 一个...
525If someone is arrested, you didn't fire them.如果有人被逮捕,你没有解雇他们。
526They got arrested with 18 pounds of cocaine.他们带着18磅可卡因被捕了
527In the real world, you're automatically fired.在现实世界中,你被自动解雇.
528Then you don't get a severance package那你就得不到解聘费
529and then you don't get to get SNAP benefits.然后你就得不到SNAP福利
530And you did not give the identification你没有给出身份证明
531and you blamed the federal government.你责怪联邦政府
532The people in charge of SNAP benefits in the state州内负责SNAP福利的人
533is the Transitional Assistance Program.过渡援助方案。
534They are the ones that have the identification.他们就是有身份的人
535You refuse to work with the US attorney.你拒绝与美国律师合作
536You refuse to give the identifications of people.你拒绝提供身份证明
537And what's gonna happen this year今年会发生什么?
538because your error rate is 12.5%, anything above 6%,因为你的误差率为12.5% 超过6%的
539taxpayers of Massachusetts have to pay.马萨诸塞州的纳税人必须支付.
540That's gonna cost us another $300 million那要再花我们三亿
541because you will not turn over the names因为你不会翻转名字
542and you will not work with the US attorney.你不会与美国律师合作的
543And for the record, when Governor Baker was here,并记录在案,当州长贝克在这里,
544it was 4.5%.这是4.5%。
545So this is on your watch.所以这是你的表。
546Governor, please respond.州长 请回复
547There's not enough time to respond to all the inaccurate没有足够的时间来应对所有不准确的问题
548things that Mike just said.迈克刚才说的话
549Name one.说一个吧
550You'll have a moment, Mike.你会有一个时间,迈克。
551Look, I did fire Lamar Cooke immediately听着 我马上解雇了拉玛·库克
552and I will fire anyone immediately我会立即开除任何人
553who commits wrongdoing in my administration.他们在我的政府里犯下错误
554But the point though is that there's work to do但重点是还有工作要做
555in the state, I know that.在州,我知道这一点。
556And I have been about delivering results.我一直致力于实现成果。
557So I think that's what the voters are looking at所以我认为这就是选民们所看到的
558is the record, what have I done?记录,我做了什么?
559Free community college, early college免费社区大学,早期大学
560where young people are in high school青少年在高中就读
561and taking classes at a nearby community college,并在附近的一所社区学院上课,
562earning credit for college为大学获得信贷
563and saving them a lot of money on tuition.并存下很多学费
564Building out childcare by 25,000 seats,以25,000个座位建造托儿设施,
565building 100,000 homes so we can lower housing costs.建造10万套住房,以便降低住房成本。
566Doing the things and making the investments that make us,做一些事情,做一些投资 使我们,
567as I said, we have the fourth fastest growth,正如我所说 我们有第四快的增长
568economic growth, GDP in the country right now.经济增长,国家GDP现在。
569It's because I've made smart investments, by the way,顺便说一句,是因为我做了聪明的投资
570including fixing a broken transit system,包括修复破损的过境系统,
571which I inherited.是我继承的
572Thank you so much for that.非常感谢
573So let's move on to the next thing.因此,让我们继续 接下来的事情。
574And again, if you would look at the monitors再说一遍,如果你看看监视器
575because we have a question for you.因为我们有个问题要问你
576It comes from, it's for both of you,它来自,这是为你们两个,
577from Rafael Ulloa of El Planeta, here it is.来自《星球》的拉斐尔·乌洛亚 在这儿
578This question is for both candidates.这个问题是针对两位候选人的。
579Would you support using a state police or taxpayer money你会支持使用州警或纳税人的钱
580to help ICE deport undocumented parents帮助ICE驱逐无证父母
581who have no criminal record,没有犯罪记录者,
582even when that being separating them from their children?即使他们和孩子分开?
583What specific action would you take将采取哪些具体行动
584within your authority as governor在你作为州长的权力范围内
585to protect people in our communities保护我们社区的人
586from mistreatment by federal agents?被联邦特工虐待?
587This question is for both candidates.这个问题是针对两位候选人的。
588Do you support the use of state police您是否支持使用州警
589or the money of the taxpayers或纳税人的钱
590to help ICE deport undocumented parents帮助ICE驱逐无证父母
591who have no criminal record,没有犯罪记录者,
592even when that being separating them from their children?即使他们和孩子分开?
593What specific action would you take将采取哪些具体行动
594within your authority as governor在你作为州长的权力范围内
595to protect people in our communities保护我们社区的人
596from mistreatment by federal agents?被联邦特工虐待?
597Governor Healy.州长希利。
598This is something that is a big difference这是大不一样的
599between me and Mike in this race.我和迈克在这场比赛中
600I have taken action, Rafael.我已经采取行动了,拉斐尔。
601I signed the Protect Act.我签了保护法案
602Because of ICE, which is an out of control rogue agency由于ICE, 这是一个失控的流氓机构
603that's shooting at US citizens,这是对美国公民的射击,
604taking people out of our communities带人离开我们的社区
605and off the streets who are simply tax paying,和街道上,谁只是交税,
606raising families, contributing to our economy,养育家庭,为经济做出贡献,
607and on their way to work,在上班的路上,
608sometimes at a construction site,有时在建筑工地,
609sometimes in a nursing home.有时在养老院。
610That's what ICE has been doing.这就是ICE一直在做的。
611And I signed the Protect Act to protect people我签署了《保护法案》来保护人民
612because ICE is the public safety threat因为ICE是公共安全的威胁
613right now in our state.现在在我们州。
614Little kids afraid to go to school,小孩子不敢上学
615people afraid to get healthcare, to go to work.人们害怕得到医疗,去工作。
616That's wrong.这是错误的。
617And that's because of ICE, which has been out of control.这是因为ICE已经失控了。
618I have stood up to ICE and to Donald Trump on this我支持ICE和唐纳德·特朗普
619as somebody who used to work with ICE作为曾经与ICE合作的人
620back as attorney general.以总检察长的身份回来
621But that ICE of yesterday is not what's happening.但昨天的ICE不是现在发生的事
622ICE is a public safety threat right now in Massachusetts.ICE在马萨诸塞州是一个公共安全威胁
623And I will continue to take action我将继续采取行动
624to help people and protect people.帮助人和保护人。
625And by the way,顺便说一句
626I'm the first to take violent criminals off the street.我是第一个把暴力罪犯带出大街的人.
627The first to take violent criminals off the street.最早将暴力罪犯带离街头.
628And if they're not here legally, they should be deported.如果他们不在这里合法, 他们应该被驱逐出境。
629But that's not who we're talking about.但是,这不是我们谈论的人。
630Well, I think this is an important point.我想这很重要
631I think we both want to keep people safe.我想我们都想保护人们的安全
632And my position is I'm opposed to violent criminals我的立场是反对暴力罪犯
633and drug dealers.还有毒贩
634But the most important thing is right now be the leader,但最重要的是现在领导者
635lower the temperature.降低温度。
636Let's not have ICE going in to the communities我们不要让ICE进入社区
637without coordination and without prioritization没有协调和没有优先次序
638of the violent criminals and the drug dealers.暴力罪犯和毒贩
639I would be the leader.我会是领导者。
640I would make sure that we target我会确保我们的目标
641and cooperate with local, state, and federal authorities与地方、州和联邦当局合作
642so we truly can target the people这样我们就能真正瞄准人民
643who are terrorizing everyone in the community.他们正在恐吓社区里的每一个人。
644In the areas that I'm in, places I've helped build schools,在我所在的地区,我帮助建设学校的地方,
645it's not compassionate either to release a criminal释放罪犯也是没有同情心的
646back in to terrorize an illegal immigrant回来恐吓一个非法移民
647that's been here for 15 years,已经在这里15年了
648works, pays taxes, and go to schools.工作、交税和上学。
649I support schools in these communities我支持这些社区的学校
650that their parents are illegal immigrants,他们的父母是非法移民,
651but they're working.但他们在工作
652The last component in history shows历史的最后一个组成部分显示
653that when you cooperate, when you work together你们合作的时候,你们合作的时候,
654with local, state, and federal authorities,与地方、州和联邦当局,
655that's how you keep people safe.这就是你如何保护人们的安全。
656That's how you stop drug dealers.这就是你如何阻止毒贩。
657And we had one example this weekend.这个周末我们有一个例子。
658I was with a pastor and his people are crying我和牧师在一起 他的人在哭
659because they are scared to go to school or hospitals.因为他们害怕去学校或医院。
660I would go as governor, meet with those people,我会去当州长 和那些人见面
661tell them why they should be safe.告诉他们为什么他们应该安全。
662And unfortunately, Governor Moore Healey不幸的是,摩尔・海利州长
663wants people afraid because it benefits her politically.希望人们害怕,因为这对她的政治有利。
664People are afraid to go to school because of ICE.人们因为ICE而害怕上学.
665I sat with 11 and 12 year olds in New Bedford two weeks ago两周前我在新贝福德和11岁和12岁的孩子坐在一起
666after their dads and fathers in communities, husbands,在他们的父母 在社区,丈夫,
667were taken on the way to the fish plant.在去鱼厂的路上
668That's what's happening in Massachusetts马萨诸塞州就是这样
669and in other places right now.在其他地方,现在。
670问题是ICE.
671ICE is the public safety threat.ICE是公共安全威胁.
672And you know, if you wanna talk about cooperation,如果你想谈合作
673here's where it works.在这里它的工作。
674I did it as AG, I do it as governor,我做它作为AG, 我做它作为州长,
675including in September last month.包括上个月九月
676It was state police, my state police,是州警察 我的州警察
677who worked alongside the U.S. Attorney's Office曾经在美国检察官办公室工作
678and federal agents to take down a drug ring和联邦特工 摧毁毒品圈
679and took 20 kilos of fentanyl and cocaine off the streets.并带走了20公斤 芬太尼和可卡因的街道。
680That's cooperation, that's government working.这是合作,这是政府的工作。
681The new laws do not allow the sheriffs新的法律不允许治安官
682to call the federal authorities when they have当联邦当局有
683and they're holding a violent criminal,他们关押了一个暴力罪犯,
684illegal immigrant or drug dealer.非法移民或毒贩。
685That is not safe for people.这对人们来说不安全。
686That does not make common sense, it's not compassionate.这不通情达理,没有同情心.
687The way you keep people safe你保护人们安全的方式
688is when the federal authorities是当联邦当局
689are going into the communities,进入社区,
690make sure the local and state authorities are with them.确保地方和州当局与它们合作。
691They know the people we're targeting.他们知道我们的目标。
692And when we do arrest people and we deport them,当我们逮捕并驱逐人时
693let's put their name and picture up and show people让我们把他们的名字和图片 显示人们
694they have violent records, they're drug dealers.他们有暴力记录, 他们是毒贩。
695And if we don't cooperate,如果我们不合作,
696you can say that you used to take drugs off the streets.你可以说你以前在街上吸毒
697That means fentanyl is gonna continue to get sold.这意味着芬太尼会继续被卖掉
698You had 18 pounds of cocaine delivered to your state house你有18磅的可卡因 送到你的国家之家
699to one of your employees and no one knew about it.你的一个雇员, 没有人知道这一点。
700And it's been going on.亦复不断.
701Likely there were people that had overdosed.可能有人服药过量
702We've never even seen an investigation.我们从未见过调查
703Where was all that cocaine going?那些可卡因都往哪儿去了?
704Who was it going to?是谁的?
705How is it possible that no one would see this怎么会没人看到呢?
706after Max is weighing 20 pounds?在马克思体重20磅之后?
707Thank you, Mr. Minogue.谢谢你,米诺格先生
708Sharma Sikheti.夏尔马·锡克提.
709All right, this question is for Mr. Minogue.好吧,这是给Minogue先生的
710It has been two years since my colleague,两年来我的同事,
711first reported on the skyrocketing energy bills第一次报道能源价格暴涨
712that are driven in large part by the fees大部分由收费驱动
713and not by the cost of fuel itself.而不是燃料本身的成本。
714If elected, what would you do to bring those bills down如果当选,你会怎么做 把这些法案下来
715or what charges would you remove?或者你会取消什么指控?
716Well, I think this is a great way我觉得这是个好办法
717to compare myself to my opponent.把我和对手比起来
718If there's one person who's responsible in the state如果有一个人在州里负责
719for our high energy bills is Governor Healey.我们的高能账单是海利州长
720And first was Attorney General Healey.首先是总检察长海利。
721She stopped the natural gas pipelines coming in.她阻止了天然气管道进入。
722She said we wouldn't need it.她说我们不需要
723She said that we would be fine with the natural energy.她说,我们不会 与自然的能量。
724And there's a press release that'll have my social team还有一份新闻发布会让我的社队参加
725put out right now from 2015,从2015年起立即推出,
726where this study said we wouldn't need this.研究说我们不需要这个
727So she stopped the natural gas pipelines.于是她停止了天然气管道.
728And then as governor, she did not bring them in.然后作为州长 她没有带他们进来
729She only mentioned it two weeks ago for the first time她两周前才第一次提到
730from the pipeline in Connecticut.从康涅狄格州的管道。
731So because of that, one third of your energy bill因此,你三分之一的能量账单
732has nothing to do with what you use.和你的用法无关
733I say we suspend that.我说我们暂停
734The other third is for delivery.第三个是送货的
735Now we still use natural gas, where people may not know,现在我们仍然使用天然气, 人们可能不知道,
736but we buy LNG from Europe at six times the cost.但我们以六倍的价格从欧洲购买LNG.
737So I'll bring natural gas pipelines in.所以我会把天然气管道带进来
738It's clean and safe and reliable.清净安全可靠.
739I'll also look at nuclear energy我也会看看核能
740and we will lower the energy bills for our people,我们将降低能源账单 我们的人民,
741especially starting immediately.特别是马上开始
742Until then, let's get rid of a third of that bill在那之前,我们把三分之一的帐单拿掉
743and give relief back to people this winter.并给回救济 今年冬天的人。
744Governor.州长
745Yeah, you know, Sherman, energy bills是啊,你知道,谢尔曼,能源账单
746are high in the Northeast.在东北地区很高
747And I am working every day to lower them.我每天都在努力降低它们
748What I've done as governor is take我作为州长所做的就是接受
749an all of the above approach.所有上述方法。
750I'm trying to get as much energy in all different kinds我试图得到同样多的能量 各种各样的类型
751into Massachusetts as quickly as possible.尽快进入马萨诸塞州
752In fact, I shrunk permitting times事实上,我缩短了许可时间
753for energy infrastructure so that we can do it more quickly.能源基础设施,以便我们能够更快地做到这一点。
754Right now we've got wind and solar.现在我们有风和太阳
755My opponent wants to kill those like Donald Trump.我的对手想杀死唐纳德·特朗普
756That's the cheapest form of energy.这是最廉价的能量形式.
757We flipped the switch on hydro.我们把开关打开了
758We've got that now coming into Massachusetts.我们得到了这个 现在进入马萨诸塞州。
759We're building out geothermal.我们正在建造地热。
760I support gas.我支持天然气。
761And that's one thing we're gonna continue to do这也是我们要继续做的事
762is bring in more energy as quickly as possible尽快带来更多的能量
763so that we can lower costs.这样我们可以降低成本。
764But right now, people's energy bills, people's energy costs,但是现在,人们的能源账单,人们的能源成本,
765they're being driven up by a war that we shouldn't be in他们被一场我们不该参加的战争驱赶
766and tariffs, all the result of Donald Trump,和关税,所有的结果 唐纳德特朗普,
767a man that my opponent supported and helped put in office.我的对手支持并帮助他上任
768I've also taken charges off of people's bills.我还从人们的帐单上扣了钱
769In fact, last week I announced that I'm giving money事实上,上个星期我宣布要给钱
770to people to help them defray their heating oil costs帮助人们支付暖气油费
771because people are gonna get slammed this winter因为今年冬天人们会被撞倒
772on heating oil prices because of the war.因为战争而加热油价
773So I am looking to do anything and everything I can所以我想尽一切办法
774to lower people's energy costs.以降低人们的能源成本。
775I'm happy to talk about the pipeline.我很高兴谈论管道。
776He made a bunch of misstatements about that.他对此做了大量错报.
777But the bottom line is I'm working every day但总之我每天都在工作
778to bring in more energy, lower costs,带来更多的能量, 降低成本,
779fight the utilities, by the way,顺便说一句,与公用事业作斗争
780fight utilities all the way, which I continue to do,一直以来,我一直在与公用事业作斗争,
781oppose rate hikes.反对涨价。
782And we need an audit actually of the utilities还要对公用设施进行审计
783and how they're padding their profits以及他们如何积累利润
784at the expense of rate hikes.以降低利率为代价。
785There's no war in Connecticut and Pennsylvania.康涅狄格州和宾夕法尼亚州没有战争.
786You know what's in Pennsylvania?你知道宾夕法尼亚有什么吗?
787Massive natural resources of natural gas天然气的大量自然资源
788that we need to bring in,我们需要带来,
789that Attorney General Moreheli stopped.司法部长莫雷赫里停止了
790Two years into your term, President Biden was there.在你任职两年后,拜登总统在场.
791You had the budget, you had the legislature,你有预算,有立法机构,
792you were the governor.你是州长
793Why didn't you bring it in你为什么不带进来?
794if you were so focused on all of the above?如果你这么专注于以上内容?
795You didn't.你没有。
796And if we continue down this path如果我们继续走这条路
797to try to do wind and solar,尝试做风和太阳能,
798I have solar, I have it at my house.我家里有太阳能
799But if you go down that path,但如果你走这条路
800it's going to cost the taxpayers another $300 billion.这将使纳税人再损失3000亿美元.
801There was a study done that taxpayers paid for in 2024.2024年纳税人付费进行了一项研究.
802It still has not come out.它还没有出来。
803It's absolutely going to bankrupt the state绝对会破产的
804and it's not feasible.这不可行。
805I've actually been out to Vineyard Wind.我其实已经出去 葡萄园风。
806I saw it, I was there.我看见了,我在那里。
807You probably have never been out there in four years.你可能已经四年没出去了
808I am an engineer and I will invest我是工程师,我会投资
809in the innovation that is best for the future创新中最有利于未来
810that allows people to have low cost energy,让人们拥有低成本的能量,
811allows the hospitals to run 24 by seven允许医院运行 24乘7
812and allows us to do manufacturing.并允许我们做制造。
813That's what we need.这就是我们需要的。
814Governor, your charge is in there, go.州长,你负责,快走
815Yeah, I've been trying to get more gas是啊,我一直试图得到更多的汽油
816into the region for a while.暂时进入这个区域。
817When it comes to pipeline construction, Mike,关于管道建设,迈克,
818in order to get that done,为了完成这件事
819it has to go through a whole bunch of states.它必须经过一大堆州。
820So it takes a while and it's a lot that's involved.所以需要一段时间,而且涉及到很多事情。
821I can't wait.等不及了 等会儿
822So you know what I'm doing?你知道我在做什么吗?
823I'm looking at existing pipelines我在看现有的管道
824and I've asked the federal government,我问联邦政府,
825give us permission so that we can expand允许我们扩展
826the existing pipeline so that there's more flow现有的输油管,以便有更多的流量
827of natural gas through the pipelines通过管道的天然气
828so that we can get more supply and lower costs.这样我们就能获得更多的供给和较低的成本.
829I'm glad you have solar.我很高兴你有太阳能。
830If you have solar, you know, by the way, Mike,如果你有太阳能,你知道,顺便说一句,迈克,
831it's probably five to seven cents a kilowatt大概是一千瓦五至七分钱
832for wind and solar energy.风能和太阳能
833It's double that for gas, but we need more gas.汽油是两倍 但我们需要更多的汽油
834We need more gas.我们需要更多的汽油。
835We need all forms of energy.我们需要各种形式的能量。
836What we don't need is Mike Minogue as governor,我们不需要的是迈克·米诺格作为州长
837who will kill wind right now,现在谁要杀死风,
838which is powering a couple hundred thousand homes使数十万户房屋获得电力,
839and businesses off the coast, kill solar programs和沿海企业,杀死太阳能计划
840and be down with Donald Trump's agenda around energy,同意唐纳德·特朗普的能源计划
841which is only raising the cost for everyone.这只会提高每个人的成本。
842Minogue先生 你有答案吗?
843So again, it's amazing that you can blame the president再说一次,你能怪罪总统真是不可思议
844for you're not bringing in natural gas.因为你不会带来天然气
845You've been in charge for four years.历官四品.
846You were the AG for more than four years.你当了四年多的助理律师
847You stopped it.你停下来了
848Wind and solar today after billions of tax dollars今天的风和太阳能 经过数十亿美元的税收
849and decades of investing is less than 6% of our energy.几十年的投资不足我们能量的6%。
850We use natural gas.我们使用天然气。
851We buy it from Europe at six times the cost.我们以六倍的价格从欧洲买的
852Nuclear energy already provides 20% of our power核能已经提供了我们20%的电力
853in Massachusetts from the Seabrook facility在马萨诸塞州 从海布鲁克设施
854up the border in New Hampshire.在新罕布什尔州的边境
855So let's invest in innovation.因此,让我们投资创新。
856You stop the pipelines.你停止输油管。
857It takes time.这需要时间。
858And you wrote a letter two weeks ago你两周前写了一封信
859asking to bring in the Connecticut pipeline请求将康涅狄格河管道引入
860that you could have done a year ago.一年前你本来可以做的
861You get 30 seconds.你还有30秒
862I just gotta respond to that.我只是需要回应这一点。
863First of all, folks, I wanna be clear首先,各位,我想说清楚
864about what happened years ago with those proposed pipelines.关于几年前发生的事情 那些拟议的管道。
865There was a pipeline developer有一个管道开发商
866who wanted to build a pipeline into Massachusetts,他们想建一条通往马萨诸塞州的管道
867but he wanted the rate payers and not the developer,但他想要的是付息人而不是开发商
868not the company to pay for it.公司不会付钱的
869I stood up for rate payers and I went to court我站出来买价钱 我上法庭了
870and you know what?你知道吗?
871The judge agreed and said, you can build your pipeline,法官同意并说, 你可以建造你的管道,
872but the company, the shareholders gotta pay for it,但公司,股东必须付出代价,
873not the rate payers.而不是付钱的人
874And so I knew it was a bad deal所以我知道这是个坏交易
875because once the judge ruled that way,因为一旦法官这样裁决
876the company walked away and never built the pipeline.公司走开,从未建造过管道。
877The pipelines that I'm talking about,我说的管道,
878I've never been against, Kath.我从没反对过,凯丝
879The pipelines I'm talking about我说的输油管
880are pipelines that were built by companies,是公司建造的管道,
881pipeline developers, and not rate payers.管道开发商,而不是收费者。
882We're gonna move on.我们要继续前进。
883Appreciate your thoughts on that subject.感谢你对这个主题的看法。
884Maybe you can keep them something for a closing statement也许你可以留些东西给他们做结语
885or something along that.或随身携带的东西。
886TC Onondiri,你有下一个问题。
887This question is for both of you.这个问题是给你们俩的
888Massachusetts has aggressive climate goals.马萨诸塞州有侵略性的气候目标.
889Yes or no, at this moment, should the state roll them back?是或否,此时此刻,国家应该收回它们吗?
890Yes or no, Governor Healey?是还是不是,海利州长?
891What we need to do is to continue to focus我们需要做的是继续关注
892on bringing in more energy.带来更多的能量。
893And I've been focused on doing the things而我一直专注于做那些事情
894that you need to do to get energy in as quickly as possible.要尽快把能量带进来
895That's why we did all the siting and the permitting reform.这就是为什么我们做了所有坐椅和允许的改革。
896And that's why we have projects going today这就是为什么我们今天有项目去
897that we're building out in solar, in geothermal,在太阳,地热,
898by the way, and in gas.顺便说一句,还有汽油
899I'm waiting for approval from the federal administration.我在等待联邦政府的批准
900We also have the hydro coming in as well.我们也有水龙头
901So we need to continue to get energy in.所以我们需要继续获得能量。
902I support clean energy.我支持清洁能源。
903But it doesn't mean that we stop what we're doing with gas.但这并不表示我们停止了用汽油做的工作.
904We need to continue with gas.我们需要继续加油。
905And gas is a cleaner form of energy anyways.天然气是一种更清洁的能源。
906So that's what we need to focus on.因此,我们需要集中精力。
907We need to continue to find ways我们需要继续寻找办法
908to address issues of climate.解决气候问题。
909We shouldn't abandon that.我们不应该放弃它。
910But right now, I'm focused on bringing in more energy,但现在,我专注于增加能量,
911cleaner energy, so that we can lower people's costs.更清洁的能源, 这样我们可以降低人们的成本。
912Is that a yes or a no?是还是不是?
913Excuse me just a second.对不起,等一下。
914Is that a yes or a no about rolling back climate goals?退缩气候目标是肯定还是否定?
915We shouldn't roll back climate goals.我们不应该退缩 气候目标。
916But goals are goals.但目标就是目标。
917What matters is what are you doing today重要的是你今天在做什么
918to operationalize something?做点什么?
919What I am focused on and have prioritized我所关注的和优先关注的
920is bringing in more energy, all of the above,带来了更多的能量, 所有以上,
921so that we can lower costs.这样我们可以降低成本。
922And yes, there's a reason why I actually是的,这是为什么我实际上
923prefer wind and solar and geothermal to coal and oil.偏好风能、太阳能和地热能,而不是煤和石油。
924Because those are dirty fossil fuels.因为这些是肮脏的化石燃料。
925And we don't need to be doing that.我们不需要这样做。
926Because we don't have a proper energy grid.因为我们没有合适的能量网
927We're not using the natural gas.我们不使用天然气。
928The hydro that you're talking about你说的水
929got shut down because Canada in a drought因为加拿大在干旱中被关闭
930will pull back their power.将收回他们的力量。
931They did the day after you announced it.你宣布的第二天 他们就这么做了
932And that week, that was freezing cold.那个星期 冷得要命
933We got 40% of our energy from oil,我们40%的能量来自石油,
934the most expensive and dirtiest form.最贵最脏的形式
935So if we care about it, we need common sense.因此,如果我们关心它,我们需要常识。
936We need to invest in innovation.要着力创新.
937Governor Healey's already rolled back those fees海利州长已经退了那些费用
938because she didn't want the penalty因为她不想受罚
939to hit before the election.在选举前打球
940So one of the fees is going to hit right after the election.因此,其中一项费用将在选举之后立即支付。
941But we do not have a single facility in Massachusetts但我们在马萨诸塞州没有一个设施
942that manufactures products or runs that operates生产产品或经营活动
943on just wind and solar.只是风和太阳。
944So why would we try to run the whole state on it?那为什么我们要管理整个州?
945It does not provide more than 6%未超过6%
946after billions of taxes and decades.经过数十亿的税收和数十年。
947Invest in innovation.着力创新.
948I'm an entrepreneur, I'm an innovator.我是一个企业家,我是一个创新者。
949That's what our people want.这是我们人民想要的。
950And when they tell you that it's so much cheaper当他们告诉你,它是如此便宜
951and the rate payers are going to pay so much,利率支付者会付出这么多,
952if you're sitting at home with record bills on electricity,如果你坐在家里有电费记录
953you can thank Governor Healey你可以感谢海利州长
954because she saved you the rate payer.因为她救了你的付息人
955And you're just going to keep saving you你会继续救你
956every time you get the most expensive bill this winter.每当你得到最昂贵的账单 这冬天。
957She didn't save anything.她什么也没救
958Governor Healey has good intentions海利总督有好意
959and I believe in clean air and climate and water.我相信清洁的空气 气候和水
960I want to do that, I have a farm.我想这样做,我有农场。
961But you invest in innovation,但你投资创新,
962you don't take money from big climate donors你不从大气候捐赠者那里拿钱
963and then turn around and make decisions然后转身做决定
964that are not in the best interest of innovation or appeal.这不符合创新或吸引力的最佳利益。
965Adrian Walker has the next question.阿德里安·沃克有下一个问题
966Adrian.亚德里安
967This question is for both of you.这个问题是给你们俩的
968The Massachusetts legislature is rated among马萨诸塞州立法机构被评为
969the least productive in the country.国内产量最低的
970How would you grade their work this session,你将如何评分他们的工作 本届会议,
971provide a letter and then an explanation for your grade?提供一封信,然后解释你的成绩?
972Mr. Minogue, start with you.米诺格先生,从你开始
973Well, Adrian, those are your words好吧,阿德里安,这是你的话
974that they're the least efficient,他们效率最低
975but I don't think it comes as a surprise但我不认为这是一个惊喜
976to a lot of the viewers.对许多观众。
977I proposed the gas tax.我提议征收天然气税
978Governor Healey also proposed the gas tax.海利总督也提议征收天然气税.
979They blew it off.他们搞砸了
980She did not call a special session.她没有召开特别会议。
981And we're not even sure what they're doing right now.我们甚至不知道他们在做什么
982And the election's almost over.而选举也快结束了.
983So they're not paying attention.所以他们没注意
984They refuse to do the audit.他们拒绝进行审计。
985They've blocked things on the audit.他们阻止了审计
986Right now, they're trying to get a new law passed现在,他们想通过一项新的法律
987that will go to Governor Healey交给海利总督
988that will basically eliminate ballot one,将基本上取消一票,
989which will provide transparency.这将提供透明度。
990What grade would you give them, sir?你会给他们多少年级,先生?
991What grade would you give them for their work this session?这届会议你会给他们多少分?
992Well, I think it's a failing grade, obviously.嗯,我认为这是一个失败的成绩,很明显。
993We have the most expensive, almost everything,我们有最昂贵的,几乎是一切,
994and they didn't do an audit.他们没有做一个审计。
995So if you can't do an audit, it means you failed the test.所以,如果你不能做一个审计, 这意味着你没有通过测试。
996We voted for that.我们投了票
997That's the law.这是法律。
998We need to make sure that they're held accountable一定要让他们负责
999on their spending.他们的支出。
1000I will bring an outside financial firm also.我也会带一个外部财务公司来
1001And I will bring in more, I will get more money我会带更多的,我会得到更多的钱
1002for the state auditor to go look at MBTA and energy.让州审计员去检查MBTA和能量
1003And we're gonna find a lot of waste and fraud.我们会发现很多浪费和欺诈。
1004But the question has to be to Governor Healey.但问题必须交给州长海利
1005What are you hiding?你在隐瞒什么?
1006What are they hiding?他们藏了什么?
1007Why are they so afraid of an audit?为什么他们这么害怕审计?
1008Governor Healey.州长海利。
1009I guess the grade, I'd say, incomplete at this point.我想现在的成绩是不完整的
1010And they are in session.他们正在开会
1011And I want bills to my desk, especially my energy bill,我希望账单到我的办公桌, 尤其是我的能源账单,
1012which to lower energy bills,以降低能源消耗,
1013I filed legislation that would save us about $13 billion我提出立法 将节省大约130亿美元
1014in the way that we run our energy market here.我们在这里经营能源市场的方式
1015So I've taken action.所以我已经采取行动了
1016There are some bills pending,还有一些法案待决,
1017but I also have shown that I'm not afraid但我也证明我不怕
1018to just act on my own through executive action.通过行政行动 自己行动
1019I did that in the early days and I continue to do that.我在早期就这样做了,我继续这样做。
1020And I continue to focus on the things我继续专注于事情
1021that I need to do as governor我需要做州长
1022to meet residents where they are.满足居民 他们在哪里。
1023Right now, it's affordability.现在,这是负担得起的。
1024And frankly, there's only so much that a governor can do老实说 州长能做的只有这么多
1025in the face of devastating cuts面对毁灭性的削减
1026by the federal administration to health care,由联邦政府提供卫生保健服务,
1027to housing, to services for veterans,住房、退伍军人服务;
1028and more in the face of tariffs and in the face of taxes.面对关税,面对税收, 更多。
1029But I'm gonna continue to look every which way但我会继续看 每一个方面
1030to find ways to lower people's costs寻找降低人们成本的方法
1031on energy, on health care, and so much more.能源,医疗,还有更多
1032Sharma Sikendi with the next question.夏尔马・西肯迪的下一个问题。
1033All right, this question is for Governor Healey.好吧,这是给海利州长的
1034And we've heard a little bit about this already.我们已经听说了
1035Your former aide, Lamar Cook, is facing federal charges你的前任助手拉玛库克正面临联邦指控
1036accused of snap and wire fraud.罪名是诈骗和诈骗
1037He was already charged with trafficking cocaine他已经被指控贩卖可卡因
1038and was paid out $22,000 in unused vacation pay并支付了22 000美元的未用假期工资
1039after he was fired.在他被开除后
1040Governor, do you have an oversight problem?州长,你有监督问题吗?
1041No, what I do have a problem with不,我有什么问题
1042is this individual who violated the public trust.这个人侵犯了公众的信任。
1043And you know, anytime any one of our 40 something thousand你知道,无论何时,我们40万中的任何一个... ...
1044employees does something wrong,员工做错了什么,
1045I'll be the first to take action我会是第一个采取行动的
1046when it comes to a violation, a breach of the public trust.当涉及到违反, 违反公众信任。
1047That gentleman was fired immediately.那个先生被立即开除了
1048And in fact, my office worked with the AG事实上,我的办公室与AG合作
1049to go after his money and what he took.去追他的钱和他拿走的东西
1050And I support and applaud the US attorney, Leah Foley,我支持并称赞美国律师利亚·福里
1051for bringing the case for him ripping off为了他把案子带出去
1052federal taxpayers, because the snap program联邦纳税人,因为快速计划
1053is a federal program.这是一个联邦计划。
1054So that's what needs to happen所以,这是需要发生
1055when there's a bad actor like that当有这样的坏演员
1056and somebody does something wrong.有人做错事
1057And I have zero tolerance for that我对此零容忍
1058and took immediate action.并立即采取行动。
1059And just a quick follow,然后就跟着我走
1060were any changes made after that之后所作的任何更改
1061in how things are overseen?事情是如何监督的?
1062Well, we have an extensive process我们有一个广泛的过程
1063when it comes to hiring people.当是雇用人时
1064And you know, unfortunately, this individual你知道,不幸的是,这个人
1065in whom public trust was placed得到公众信任的人
1066did something in violation of that.做了一些违反这一点的事。
1067And that's why he is no longer employed所以他不再受雇
1068by the state of Massachusetts.马萨诸塞州
1069He was fired the very day that he was picked up.他被带走的那天就被解雇了。
1070Mr. Minow.米诺先生
1071He was arrested again, he wasn't fired.他再次被捕,没有被开除.
1072If someone's arrested, they're automatically fired如果有人被捕,就会自动被开除
1073in the real world.在现实世界。
1074And they didn't do anything to change it.他们没有做任何事情来改变它。
1075We have no investigation.我们没有调查。
1076There's been multiple boxes being delivered有多个箱子正在运送
1077to the state house.到州府门.
1078Where did that go?那东西去哪了?
1079Did someone overdose?有人吸毒过量吗?
1080You have fentanyl laced into these things.你让芬塔尼尔卷入了这些事情
1081We need to take this seriously.我们需要认真对待这一点。
1082But to blame the federal government,但为了怪罪联邦政府,
1083you did not give the federal government你没有给联邦政府
1084any identification on SNAPSNAP上的任何身份证明
1085because you will not work with them.因为你不会跟他们合作
1086You did not give any information你没有透露任何信息
1087to the US attorney, Leah Foley.给美国律师莉亚·福里
1088And it wasn't the federal government.也不是联邦政府干的
1089It was the Department of Transitional Assistance,是过渡援助部
1090which is here in Massachusetts.在马萨诸塞州
1091And because you refuse to give the identifications因为你拒绝提供身份证明
1092of the SNAP recipients,受助人名单,
1093you're jeopardizing $3 billion of federal funding.你危害了30亿美元的联邦资金
1094And as a result of our error rate,由于我们的误差率
1095which I already mentioned, it's at 12.5%.我已经提到,这是12.5%。
1096Anything above 6%,超过6%的,
1097that difference has to be paid for by the taxpayers.这一差额必须由纳税人支付。
1098So if you're out there, there's a new bill coming所以,如果你在那里, 有一个新的法案来
1099that's gonna be for $300 million in new taxes this year今年新税3亿美元
1100because Governor Healey refuses因为海利总督拒绝
1101to turn over the identifications打开身份证明
1102because she's concerned因为她很担心
1103that there'll be illegal immigrants in there那里会有非法移民
1104and they're not entitled to that.而他们无权这样做。
1105That's called fraud.这就是所谓的欺诈。
1106We need to stop them.我们需要阻止他们。
1107Mike just said a whole bunch of things迈克刚才说了一堆话
1108that are not true.这不是真的。
1109For eight years, I was attorney general.我当了八年的检察长
1110Among other things that I did,除其他事情,我做了,
1111I prosecuted waste, fraud, and abuse.我起诉浪费 欺诈和虐待
1112You can go back and look at my record你可以回去看我的记录
1113and the millions that I recovered from taxpayers.我从纳税人那里收回的数百万
1114So I know something about prosecuting fraud and abuse.所以我知道什么是起诉欺诈和虐待。
1115I have zero tolerance for it.我对此零容忍。
1116That is why whenever any problem is identified所以只要发现问题
1117in one of our agencies, any concern about fraud,我们的一个机构 任何对欺诈的担忧
1118I immediately refer that to the US attorney's office,我立即提到美国律师事务所
1119to the attorney general's office,到总检察长办公室,
1120to the auditor and to the inspector general for action.请审计员和监察主任采取行动。
1121And I'll continue to do that.我将继续这么做。
1122对了,SNAP,今年SNAP的大问题
1123is when Donald Trump turned off SNAP是唐纳德·特朗普关闭SNAP的时候
1124for 900,000 Massachusetts residents.90万马萨诸塞州居民
1125And as governor, I had to find ways作为州长 我必须想办法
1126{\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}其实是用来喂人的
1127Back in the day, I could have done a lot of things,以前,我可以做很多事情,
1128but I do respect that back in the day you did that.但我很尊重你以前那样做的
1129You were a good attorney general and I appreciate it.你是个好司法部长 我很感激
1130But now that you're governor,但既然你是州长
1131you don't follow any of the things that you used to do.你没有遵循你以前做过的任何事情。
1132You do not provide oversight.你不提供监督。
1133And to talk about SNAP and what happened this summer,说到SNAP和今年夏天发生的事
1134again, you did a press release.再次,你做了一个新闻稿。
1135You wanted people and you did a press conference.你想要人,你做了一个新闻发布会。
1136You wanted people afraid.你想让人们害怕
1137All we had to do was cover 240 million for one month,我们只需要付2.4亿一个月
1138knowing that the Congress is gonna go back in session.知道国会会继续开会
1139And you could have done that.你本来可以这么做的
1140You could have gone to the rainy day fund before lunch,你可以在午餐前去雨天基金
1141say we're gonna move 240 over, don't worry,说我们要搬240号过来 别担心
1142get the fear and anxiety out of the people让人民远离恐惧和焦虑
1143that you're basically going to make them afraid你基本上会让他们害怕
1144because that's what party politicians do.因为党政人物都是这样
1145We do not want to scare our people.我们不想吓唬我们的人民。
1146Lower the temperature, be a leader and solve problems.降低温度,成为领导者并解决问题.
1147Don't campaign on them.别对他们进行竞选
1148我们的下一个问题来自TC Onondura。
1149这是给Minogue先生的
1150You have described yourself as pro-life你形容自己是亲生命
1151and you have pledged to follow the law你承诺遵守法律
1152when it comes to abortion.在堕胎方面。
1153There is an effort underway to try to repeal the law正在努力废除该法。
1154Governor Healey signed,州长海利签署,
1155lifting restrictions on abortions after 24 weeks.24周后取消对堕胎的限制。
1156Yes or no, do you support repealing that law?是或否,你支持废除该法吗?
1157So this is an important point所以这很重要
1158because we are making something that's a very sensitive,因为我们做了一件非常敏感的事
1159very difficult decision and we're trying to politicize it.非常困难的决定,我们试图将其政治化。
1160And so to be clear for all the women that are listening,为了让所有听话的女人都明白
1161I will obey the law.我会遵守法律的
1162I will follow the law.我会遵守法律的
1163I believe in the separation of church and state.我相信教会和国家的分离。
1164And when I become governor, I will swear in oath to do that.当我成为州长,我发誓要这么做。
1165Now I am still allowed to have my own beliefs现在我仍然可以有自己的信仰
1166but my own beliefs will not get in the way但我的信仰不会妨碍你
1167of me doing what I'm supposed to do in upholding the law.我做我应该做的 维护法律。
1168And in many cases,在许多情况下,
1169Governor Healey and I have the exact same position.Healey州长和我的职位完全一样
1170We both have to follow the law我们都要遵守法律
1171and that's the important thing.这才是最重要的
1172But to go back to the most important thing,但回到最重要的事情上来
1173women going through this decision, it's very difficult.女人通过这个决定, 这是非常困难的。
1174We don't want to politicize this我们不想把这件事政治化
1175and I have compassion for anyone我怜悯任何人
1176in such a difficult situation.在如此困难的情况下
1177But this is a question of law.但是这是个法律问题。
1178And so again, do you support the attempt to repeal that law?因此,你是否支持废除该法律?
1179I will support the law.我会支持法律的
1180I will support the outcome of the law我会支持法律的结果
1181and I will be a governor for the people.我将成为人民的总督
1182I will not play party politics on something sensitive我不会在敏感的事情上玩政党政治
1183and I'm not gonna give a leading question我不会给一个主要的问题
1184because my commitment is to always uphold the law因为我的承诺是永远维护法律
1185as the governor.作为州长
1186That's what I'm gonna do.师便打.
1187I'm gonna put that oath first.我要把那个誓言放在首位。
1188Governor Healey.州长海利。
1189It's not politicizing something这不是把事情政治化
1190when one in three women in America美国每三个女人中就有一个
1191live without access to needed abortion care.无法享受所需的堕胎护理。
1192Donald Trump, by overturning Roe,唐纳德·特朗普 推翻了罗
1193has found ways to systematically take away abortion access,已经找到方法,系统地取消堕胎,
1194needed healthcare for women across this country.需要为全国妇女提供医疗保健。
1195When I became governor, I stockpiled Mifflpristone当我成为州长时 我储存了米夫普里斯通
1196because I could see what was happening.因为我可以看到发生了什么。
1197I signed the strongest shield law in the country我签了全国最强的盾牌法
1198to protect patients and providers.保护病人和提供者。
1199I trust women.и獺
1200I trust women and their doctors.我相信女人和他们的医生
1201Mike Minogue doesn't.迈克·米诺格没有
1202There's only one of us here这里只有一个人
1203who will protect women's access to healthcare.将保护妇女获得保健服务。
1204I will protect women's access我会保护女人的安全
1205to healthcare in Massachusetts.在马萨诸塞州的保健。
1206Mike Minogue won't.迈克·米诺格不会的
1207Okay.摆
1208So this is an example.这就是一个例子。
1209You're playing extreme politics你在玩极端政治
1210and you're attacking our faith, which I'm disappointed.你在攻击我们的信仰 我很失望
1211But to say that I don't respect women.但说不敬女人.
1212My wife is brilliant.我妻子很聪明
1213She's out there.她现在在外面
1214Everyone has met her.大家都见过她了
1215She's a Fulbright scholar.她是富布赖特学者.
1216She's incredible.她真不可思议
1217My two daughters are incredible.我的两个女儿都不可思议
1218They're smart.他们是聪明的。
1219They're gonna change the world.他们会改变世界
1220My boss for 19 years at Abiumed was Dorothy Puey,我在阿比姆德19年的老板是多萝西·普伊
1221CFO和COO,达纳·法伯。
1222One of the best leaders I've ever worked with.与我合作过的最好的领导者之一.
1223So to say that I don't respect women is a cheap shot.所以说我不尊重女人是便宜的
1224You're better than that.你比这好
1225And let's make sure we talk about the issues.让我们谈谈问题吧
1226And again, this is what politicians do.政客们也是这么做的。
1227They want us to take extreme positions.他们希望我们采取极端的立场。
1228They want us to hate each other.他们希望我们互相憎恨
1229I see people as neighbors我视人为邻居
1230and we can solve problems together.我们可以一起解决问题。
1231Governor.州长
1232Yeah, to be clear,是啊,说清楚,
1233were Mike Minogue to become governor,迈克·米诺格成为州长
1234he'd get rid of that stockpile of myth of Pristone.他会摆脱普里斯顿神话中的储存
1235He'd repeal the shield law that protects women's access他会废除保护女性进入的盾牌法
1236to needed healthcare in this state.在这个状态下需要医疗保健。
1237And that's a problem.这才是问题所在
1238That's a problem.那是个问题。
1239Massachusetts is a place where we have for a long time马萨诸塞州是一个地方 我们有一个很长一段时间
1240respected the right of a woman尊重妇女的权利
1241to make that healthcare decision for herself为自己做出医疗决定
1242in consultation with a doctor,与医生协商,
1243in consultation with her faith,与她的信仰协商,
1244but to not have that decision determined by government.但政府不能确定这一决定。
1245That's what Donald Trump did这就是唐纳德·特朗普所做的
1246by stacking the Supreme Court campaigning.最高法院的竞选活动
1247One of his campaign promises他的竞选承诺之一
1248was that he was gonna overturn Roe.他想推翻罗
1249And he did.而且他确实这么做了
1250And by the way,顺便说一句
1251my opponent wrote him a million dollar check我的对手给他写了一百万的支票
1252to get him reelected to do that.让他重新当选
1253I'm governor.我是州长
1254Thank you.谢谢
1255So that's not true.所以这不是真的
1256Mr. Pristone is FDA approved.Pristone先生是林业发展局批准的人
1257You can buy it.你可以买下它。
1258It's available.现用.
1259What you should be concerned about你应该关心的是什么
1260is buying a stockpile where the money's gonna run out.是买一个储存 在那里的钱会用完。
1261You have to store drugs like that in air conditioned你必须在空调中储存这种药物
1262or in areas they can expire.或在其可能过期的地区。
1263And the worst thing would happen is you buy a bunch of it最糟的是你买了一堆
1264and it expires where people get it它在人们得到它的地方失效
1265and it's no longer valid.这已经无效了
1266So it's a proven product that's FDA approved.所以这是经过验证的产品,是FDA批准的.
1267It's legal and you don't need to buy it.这是合法的,你不需要买它。
1268Again, you want people afraid.再说一遍,你希望人们害怕。
1269You want to drive division between us.你想把我们分开
1270You don't need it because you can order it你不需要,因为你可以订购
1271when you want on demand.当您需要时。
1272It's FDA approved.是林业发展局批准的
1273Governor, please go.州长,请走
1274Yeah, I know you're a former biotech executive.我知道你是前生物技术主管
1275I don't need to be lectured about the storage of drugs.我不用讲关于药品储存的
1276I took that action because at the time我这样做是因为当时
1277Donald Trump said he was gonna take唐纳德·特朗普说他要带走
1278Mifa Pristone from the shelves.货架上的米法·普里斯顿
1279And I said, you know what?我说,你知道吗?
1280Not on my watch.不在我的监视下。
1281I'm gonna make sure that women in Massachusetts我会确保马萨诸塞州的女人
1282have access to that should they need it如果他们需要的话,可以使用
1283because Donald Trump, as president,因为唐纳德·特朗普 作为总统
1284said he was taking that away.他说他要拿走那个
1285You know, I have supported access to women's healthcare你知道,我支持 获得妇女保健
1286beyond access to abortion.除了堕胎之外。
1287Under my administration, prenatal vitamins我管理着产前维生素
1288are now free for women.妇女现在可以自由了。
1289We've made huge investments in maternal healthcare我们在产妇保健方面做了大量投资
1290and as governor, I'm going to continue to do that.作为州长,我将继续这么做。
1291Just one point, it is a legal document.只是一点,这是一个法律文件。
1292The president can't take it out.总统不能把它拿出来。
1293The FDA works for him and it's legal.FDA为他工作 而且是合法的
1294You can buy it.你可以买下它。
1295It was never gonna be taken off the shelf.它永远不会被从架子上拿走。
1296It's a process that went years.这是一个历经多年的过程。
1297That's an incorrect statement.这说法不正确.
1298Well, it sure scared a lot of people around.嗯,它肯定吓坏了 很多人周围。
1299You scared a lot of people.你吓坏了很多人。
1300No, I protected people.不,我保护的人。
1301No, you scared.不,你吓坏了。
1302I protected people.我保护别人
1303And you know, for me in this time as governor,你知道,对于我作为州长,
1304it's been about driving a whole bunch of things,一直都是开着一堆东西
1305housing, lowering costs, all of that, growing our economy.住房,降低成本, 所有这一切, 增长我们的经济。
1306But as governor and with Donald Trump as president但作为州长和唐纳德·特朗普作为总统
1307for two more years,再过两年
1308the job of governor in any state in this country,这个国家任何州州长的工作,
1309because I talked to my Republican colleagues in red states,因为我跟我在红色州的共和党同事谈过
1310a job as governor is absolutely having to do things做州长的工作 绝对有事情要做
1311to protect your people against the abuses of Donald Trump,为了保护你的人民免受唐纳德·特朗普的虐待,
1312who's defunded our colleges and universities.他们已经取消了我们的大学和学院的资金。
1313Governor, thank you.州长 谢谢你
1314He's got in healthcare and so much more.他得到的医疗保健 和这么多。
1315Okay, thank you.好的 谢谢
1316Quick, we are one of the most expensive places快,我们是最贵的地方之一
1317for electricity, for healthcare, for childcare电力、保健、儿童保育
1318and for housing.和为住房。
1319You've had four years, you had the title, you had the job,你有过四年,你有头衔,有工作,
1320you had president Biden for the first two years.你头两年都有拜登总统
1321You didn't fix it then, you didn't fix it in the last two.你当时没有修,最后两个也没有修.
1322I will solve problems.我会解决问题的
1323I'll work with whatever president is in office.我会和总统合作的
1324And those things happened on your watch, you're responsible.那些事情发生在你的手表上,你有责任。
1325All right, Adrian Walker, you have our next question.好吧,阿德里安·沃克,你还有下一个问题
1326Yes, this question is for both of you.是的,这是给你们俩的问题。
1327Dozens of Massachusetts communities have dropped几十个马萨诸塞州社区已经下降
1328or paused use of flocks automated license plate cameras,或暂停使用羊群 自动车牌摄像机,
1329citing concerns about privacy and safety以隐私和安全为由
1330and how vehicle information is shared.以及如何分享车辆信息。
1331Rhode Island's governor has put a pause罗得岛的总督暂停了
1332on new installation of such cameras.安装新的摄像机。
1333Should Massachusetts do the same?马萨诸塞州也应该这样吗?
1334We'll start with Mr. Minogue.我们从米诺格先生开始
1335I think we need guidelines我认为我们需要指导
1336and I think people want privacy.我认为人们想要隐私。
1337I totally agree with that.我完全同意这一点。
1338There are some benefits.有一些好处。
1339So the brown shooter, partly that's how we were able to find所以棕色的枪手, 部分地,我们找到了
1340and capture the brown shooter.抓住棕色枪手
1341But the people that were abusing the system但那些滥用系统的人
1342or not following the guidelines或未遵守准则
1343or too many people had access to it, that should not happen.或太多的人可以使用, 这不应该发生。
1344And it certainly needs to be buttoned up.当然,它需要扣住。
1345But overall, we want to focus on keeping people safe.但总体来说,我们想专注于保障人们的安全.
1346And again, the best way to do that再说一遍,最好的办法
1347is to have a law enforcement要有执法部门
1348that is engaged, local, state and federal.地方、州和联邦都参与其中。
1349And when you have different cameras and different systems,当你有不同的摄像头和不同的系统
1350we wanna be able to share that information.我们希望能够分享这些信息。
1351When I am governor, I'm gonna make sure I listen当我是州长时 我会确保我听
1352to the people on things like privacy.给人民一些隐私
1353I'm gonna listen to the people我要听别人的话
1354when they want something done for their communities,当他们想为自己的社区做点什么时,
1355whether that's an audit or energy, or just in general,不管是审计还是精力 或只是一般的
1356how they wanna decide their septic sewer.如何决定他们的化粪池。
1357I'm not gonna go sue the towns我不会去告小镇的
1358if they don't build 1,500 condos如果他们不建造1500间公寓
1359because they do not have the ability to do that.因为他们没有能力这样做。
1360I will stop that from happening.我将阻止这种情况发生。
1361Governor.州长
1362Yeah, I think the question was about flock.是的,我想问题在于羊群
1363And I wanna just be clear with the public我想对公众说清楚
1364that the Massachusetts State Police,马萨诸塞州警方
1365we as a state do not use flock cameras.我们作为一个州 不使用羊群摄像头。
1366I think the question though is,我认为问题是,
1367and the answer to the question is really about balance.而这个问题的答案其实是平衡。
1368I think that with technology and evolving technology,我认为随着技术和不断发展的技术,
1369there is absolutely a role for that in law enforcement.这在执法中绝对可以发挥作用。
1370It's also the case that people's privacy人们的隐私也是这样
1371has got to be protected.必须保护。
1372And it's something that I am working on right now我现在正在研究
1373so that we can develop the right framework以便我们能够制定正确的框架
1374for our local police departments and cities and towns我们的地方警察局和城镇
1375about how to use this technology.关于如何使用这种技术。
1376So technology can be used for good.因此技术可以用于善用.
1377It can be abused as it was by that police officer它可能被警察滥用
1378who was surveilling an ex-girlfriend.他在监视一个前女友
1379That is so wrong.这太错了。
1380And he was held accountable.他被追究责任。
1381But the issue of technology, it's one of balance,但技术问题是平衡的
1382it's one of judgment.这是一种判断。
1383And as governor, I'm gonna continue to work作为州长,我要继续工作
1384with my secretary of public safety and local police与我的公共安全秘书和地方警察
1385to get to the right place.去对的地方
1386Wanna ask one quick point?想问一点吗?
1387I'll give you a fast point我直说吧
1388then I'll give the governor a fast point.然后,我给州长一个快速点。
1389In Springfield, it just came out在斯普林菲尔德,它刚刚出来
1390that the sheriff and the people警长和人民
1391do not want the courthouse where it is.不希望法院 它在哪里。
1392It's not safe.无安无安.
1393It doesn't have covered parking,它没有覆盖的停车,
1394doesn't have on-site parking.没有现场停车。
1395So we need to respect the people that live in the areas.因此,我们需要尊重生活在这些地区的人民。
1396And that Springfield needs to be canceled.斯普林菲尔德需要取消
1397You need to listen to the local people你要听当地人的话
1398on that special lower.在特别的低处。
1399To that?为了这个?
1400And I'm sorry to make it a quick point.对不起,我把它说得很快。
1401I don't know what that's in reference to.我不知道这是什么意思
1402Springfield Courthouse was a sick building.斯普林菲尔德法院大楼是一座病态建筑.
1403And as governor, I wanted to build a new building作为州长,我想建造一座新楼
1404so that people there were not continuing以免人们继续
1405to get diseases and cancer and die.得疾病和癌症,然后死亡。
1406It went through a procurement process.它经历了一个采购过程。
1407A judge took a look at it一个法官看了一下
1408and said the process was flawless.并说这个过程是完美的。
1409People in Springfield are happy.春田人欢喜.
1410There's gonna be a new court.将有新庭.
1411My social media team will post the letter now.我的社交媒体团队现在会张贴这封信.
1412There's gonna be a thousand jobs created.会有一千个工作
1413There's gonna be a new courthouse within five years.5年内会有新的法院
1414And that's what the people of Springfield deserve这就是春田人民应得的
1415along with the other investments that I've made以及我所做的其他投资
1416in Springfield, including at the convention center在斯普林菲尔德,包括在会议中心
1417and for East West Rail in 550 units of housing.以及东西铁路550套住房。
1418Mr. Minogue, you can have like 30 seconds米诺格先生,你可以有30秒
1419and then we're gonna hit closing statements.然后我们再发表结束语
1420Yeah, only in this administration are we sold是啊,只有在这个政府,我们卖
1421that $2 billion is a great deal for a courthouse.20亿美元对于一个法院来说是巨大的。
1422Everyone at home knows it's a ridiculous deal.家里每个人都知道这是个荒谬的交易.
1423No one has a 40-year mortgage没有人有40年的抵押贷款
1424where they don't own the property at the end在他们不拥有财产的结尾
1425after paying for everything.在付出一切代价后
1426The more we talk about it, the more ridiculous it is.我们谈论得越多,就越荒谬.
1427But in this case, the sheriff and that department,但在这种情况下 警长和那个部门
1428it's not a safe location.这不是一个安全的地方。
1429It doesn't have onsite parking.它没有现场停车。
1430They're concerned about it.他们很担心
1431And they wrote you a letter他们写信给你
1432and they asked you to cancel the deal他们叫你取消交易
1433as well as the people in the community.以及社区里的人
1434That's time, sir, thank you.是时候了 谢谢
1435So it's time now for closing statements from both of you.现在是时候结束你们的发言了
1436Governor Healy won a random draw希利州长赢了随机抽奖
1437and she and her New England Patriot way chose to go last.她和她的新英格兰爱国者 选择了最后一步
1438Minogue先生,你先来
1439Thank you all.谢谢大家
1440And I humbly ask for your vote.我谦卑地要求你投票
1441We need to make sure that this tipping point election我们需要确保这次的临界点选举
1442gets us back on the right path.使我们回到正确的道路。
1443Governor Healy said, Massachusetts is a great place州长希利说,马萨诸塞是一个伟大的地方
1444if you can afford to live here.如果你能负担住在这里。
1445Well, most people can't.嗯,大多数人不能。
1446And what politicians want is they want us to hate each other.政客想要的是 他们希望我们互相憎恨
1447They don't solve problems.他们不能解决问题。
1448They campaign on them.他们反对他们
1449I am not a politician.我不是一个政治家。
1450I have a proven record in the military, in combat,我在军队,在战场上,有经过证明的记录
1451in business and in healthcare and in the nonprofit space.在商业、医疗保健和非营利场所。
1452I want to make Massachusetts the best place to live, work我想让马萨诸塞州成为最好的居住,工作的地方
1453and raise a family for everyone,并且为每个人而建立一个家庭,
1454including the people who today can't afford to live here.包括今天不能住在这里的人
1455We need to start solving problems and focusing我们需要开始解决问题和集中精力
1456and be obsessed with lowering the cost of energy沉迷于降低能源成本
1457with natural gas pipelines, growing jobs,有了天然气管道, 就业机会不断增长,
1458growing manufacturing and keeping people safe.增加制造业,保障人们的安全。
1459I will be the leader that works with everyone我将成为与大家合作的领袖
1460so that we solve problems这样我们就能解决问题
1461and I will not be another politician.我不会成为另一个政客。
1462It's an honor to be your governor.荣为贵州提督.
1463And every day I'm working for you,我每天为你工作
1464working to make your life better.努力让你的生活更美好
1465I cut taxes, built housing,我减税,建房,
1466turned around a broken transit system转过身来一个破烂的中转系统
1467and invested in education in our workforce.并投资于我们劳动力的教育。
1468And Massachusetts today is number one今天马萨诸塞州第一
1469in education, healthcare and innovation.在教育、保健和创新方面。
1470And we've got a strong and growing economy.而且我们的经济也强劲而增长.
1471But there are real challenges and I'm meeting those head on.但是有真正的挑战,我正面对这些头。
1472I'm going to build housing我要盖房子
1473until everyone can afford a place to live.直到每个人都能买得起住的地方
1474I'm going to expand primary care and mental health我要扩大初级保健和精神健康
1475so that you and your family get the care that you need.让你和家人得到你需要的照顾
1476I'm going to continue to make investments我会继续投资
1477so that we're growing jobs and growing our economy.这样我们就能增加就业机会,增加经济。
1478I'm going to protect your kids in a world of social media我要在社交媒体世界里保护你的孩子
1479and your jobs in the face of AI.还有你面对AI的工作
1480This summer, the world came to Massachusetts今年夏天,世界来到马萨诸塞州
1481and with the World Cup, tall ships,和与世界杯,高船,
1482the celebration of America 250,庆祝美国250,
1483they saw what I know to be true.他们看到了我知道的真相
1484The people of Massachusetts are welcoming,马萨诸塞州人民欢迎,
1485resilient and strong.坚韧坚固.
1486And I know that generation after generation,我知道一代又一代
1487they have been about moving people forward.他们一直在推动人们前进。
1488I'm going to do that as your governor我会做你的州长
1489and I humbly ask for your vote.我谦卑地要求你投票
1490Thank you both for joining us tonight.感谢你们今晚的光临
1491Thank you folks for watching this debate at home.感谢你们在家观看这场辩论。
1492Every moment of early voting is very important早点投票很重要
1493and begins on Saturday.周六开始
1494Election day itself is Tuesday, November 3rd.选举日本身是11月3日的星期二.
1495Remember that.记住这一点。
1496We will have coverage of the debate tonight.我们将报道今晚的辩论。
1497We'll have complete analysis of the debate tonight我们今晚要全面分析这场辩论
1498on New Center 5 at 11.11点在新中心5号
1499You can also watch this final face-off,你也可以看最后的对决,
1500the one that we're wrapping up right now,我们即将结束的那个
1501anytime on our WCVB app.随时在WCVB的应用程序上
1502Have a great night.祝你今晚过得愉快
1503Thank you for watching.谢谢你的观看。
1504Take care.小心点
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