【明星访谈】Hailey Bieber谈母亲身份与名气 ·
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| 0:00 | Couldn't pay me to go back to being 20 for a day. | 一天不能付我20岁 |
| 0:02 | It does feel hard sometimes having every single thing be looked at and picked apart. | 有时候很难把每件事都看清楚 分解出来 |
| 0:07 | It has to be this number. | 一定是这个号码 |
| 0:08 | I will not go for less. | 我不会少花钱的 |
| 0:16 | Okay, Haley, 2025 was a huge, huge year for you. | 好吧,海莉,2025年对你来说是一个巨大的,巨大的一年。 |
| 0:21 | It was your first full year of motherhood. | 那是你做母亲的第一个整年 |
| 0:23 | You sold your company. | 你卖了你的公司。 |
| 0:25 | Some people really thrive in moments of big change. | 有些人真的在大变革的时刻蓬勃发展。 |
| 0:29 | Some people really struggle. | 有些人真的很挣扎。 |
| 0:31 | Like, how is a big change period for you? | 比如,一个大的改变期对你如何? |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Couldn't pay me to go back to being 20 for a day. | 一天不能付我20岁 |
| 2 | It does feel hard sometimes having every single thing be looked at and picked apart. | 有时候很难把每件事都看清楚 分解出来 |
| 3 | It has to be this number. | 一定是这个号码 |
| 4 | I will not go for less. | 我不会少花钱的 |
| 5 | Okay, Haley, 2025 was a huge, huge year for you. | 好吧,海莉,2025年对你来说是一个巨大的,巨大的一年。 |
| 6 | It was your first full year of motherhood. | 那是你做母亲的第一个整年 |
| 7 | You sold your company. | 你卖了你的公司。 |
| 8 | Some people really thrive in moments of big change. | 有些人真的在大变革的时刻蓬勃发展。 |
| 9 | Some people really struggle. | 有些人真的很挣扎。 |
| 10 | Like, how is a big change period for you? | 比如,一个大的改变期对你如何? |
| 11 | I think it's a lot of different things. | 我觉得这有很多不同的东西 |
| 12 | I don't think it's all sunshine and rainbows, | 我不认为这是所有的阳光和彩虹, |
| 13 | and I don't think it's all bad. | 我不觉得一切不好 |
| 14 | I just think it's you experience so many different emotions | 我只是觉得你经历了很多不同的情绪 |
| 15 | and so many different things. | 和很多不同的东西。 |
| 16 | Selling my company in the first year of also having a child, | 卖了我的公司 在第一年 同时有一个孩子, |
| 17 | it's like there's a lot of change happening at once. | 这就像有很多变化 一次发生。 |
| 18 | Becoming a mom is so far in my life | 做个妈妈是我生命中最远的 |
| 19 | the biggest change I've ever been through. | 我经历了最大的变化 |
| 20 | I feel like a lot of women would probably agree that | 我觉得很多女人都同意 |
| 21 | the biggest identity shift that you go through in your life is becoming a parent, becoming a mom, | 你一生中最大的身份转变 就是成为父母 成为妈妈 |
| 22 | and to be going through that while also going through this insane business process is just, | 在经历这种疯狂的商业过程的同时, |
| 23 | it was really interesting for those two things to be going on in parallel. | 这两件事是平行进行的,这确实很有趣。 |
| 24 | I felt really stretched in a lot of ways. | 我感觉很紧张 |
| 25 | I just felt like this last year was a really big | 我只是觉得去年是件大事 |
| 26 | growth and learning year for me, and when I look back on it now being 29, turning 30 this year, | 我成长和学习的一年, 当我回顾现在29岁,今年30岁, |
| 27 | I'm like, wouldn't have changed a thing. | 我觉得,不会改变任何事情。 |
| 28 | As many ups and downs as there was, as hard as it was for | 和以前一样的起伏 和以前一样艰难 |
| 29 | me to do all these major things at one time, I really feel like it strengthened me in a lot of | иΩ暗硂ㄇ璶ㄆ и痷谋眔 |
| 30 | ways. | 办法 |
| 31 | Let's talk about the acquisition for a second. | 我们谈谈收购事宜 |
| 32 | Rode was only out for three years. | 罗德只出院三年. |
| 33 | You | 你们 |
| 34 | had 10 products, which for a beauty brand is not a lot of products for this big acquisition moment, | 有10种产品, 对于一个美容品牌来说, 在这个大收购时刻, |
| 35 | and the deal was for up to a billion dollars. | 交易高达十亿美元 |
| 36 | That was the number that you had in your mind. | 那是你脑海里的号码 |
| 37 | Why? | 为什么? |
| 38 | I'm somebody who really believes in what you say out loud is very important. | 我才是真正相信 你大声说出来的人 |
| 39 | Our words are | 我们的话 |
| 40 | important. | 这很重要 |
| 41 | The manifestations we put out there into the world are very important. | 我们在世界上的表现非常重要。 |
| 42 | From a very | 从一个非常 |
| 43 | on conversation when we were just kind of like, hey, what would it look like? | 谈话时,我们只是 那种,嘿,它看起来像什么? |
| 44 | What would we want | 我们想要什么? |
| 45 | the number to be? | 号码是? |
| 46 | I was like, it has to be this number. | 一定是这个号码 |
| 47 | I will not go for less. | 我不会少花钱的 |
| 48 | That is just, | 这只是, |
| 49 | it was a goal. | 这是一个目标。 |
| 50 | That was the line I drew in the sand and the goal that I set. | 这是我在沙子里画的线 和我设定的目标。 |
| 51 | Your potential customers in the EU have really been clamoring. | 你们在欧盟的潜在客户 一直不断抱怨 |
| 52 | I've seen the Reddit threads. | 我见过雷迪特的线索 |
| 53 | When is Rode coming to Sephora EU? | 罗德什么时候来欧盟? |
| 54 | Can we make some news today? | 我们今天能做点新闻吗? |
| 55 | So we are launching in Sephora EU in the fall. | 因此,我们将于秋季在塞波拉欧盟发起行动。 |
| 56 | I'm allowed to say the fall. | 允许我说秋天 |
| 57 | We're taking it a | 我们拿它一个 |
| 58 | territory at a time. | 领土一次。 |
| 59 | But that's a big one. | 但是,这是一个很大的。 |
| 60 | The EU is huge. | 欧盟是巨大的。 |
| 61 | Yeah, the EU is huge. | 是的,欧盟是巨大的。 |
| 62 | And I am eager. | 我很热切 |
| 63 | South America is another really important one to me. | 南美对我来说是另一个非常重要的地方。 |
| 64 | My mom's from Brazil. | 我妈妈是巴西人 |
| 65 | So being able to do that | 所以能做到这一点 |
| 66 | will be another, it's another big goal of mine, speaking of goals, to be able to be in all these | 这将是另一个,这是我的另一个大目标, 说到目标, 能够参与所有这些 |
| 67 | places. | 地点 |
| 68 | I was reading a story in Vogue. | 我在读《Vogue》的故事 |
| 69 | It said when Rode launched, the product was better than | 它说,当罗德启动,产品比 |
| 70 | anyone expected, which just sort of struck me because, okay, so you're saying that the expectations | 任何人期待, 这让我有点惊讶,因为, 好吧,所以你说的期望 |
| 71 | were low. | 低调 |
| 72 | Did you feel like you had an uphill battle to climb and proving that you could really | 你是否觉得自己要爬山 证明自己真的可以爬山 |
| 73 | deliver? | 送货? |
| 74 | So I understood that there was definitely a lot of side eyeing of, oh, here we go again. | 所以,我明白,肯定有很多 侧眼,哦,我们走了。 |
| 75 | Here's another brand. | 这是另一个品牌。 |
| 76 | Why should people buy my skincare? | 为什么人们会买我的皮肤护理? |
| 77 | Why should people trust it? | 人们为什么要相信它? |
| 78 | So | 这么说 |
| 79 | I went into it knowing that there was a lot of that question mark around it. | 我走进去时知道 周围有很多问题 |
| 80 | And that's why | 这就是为什么 |
| 81 | I brought people so in on the process. | 我让大家参与这个过程 |
| 82 | I documented everything. | 我记录了一切 |
| 83 | I am such a skincare fanatic and nerd. | 我是一个皮肤护理狂热和书呆子。 |
| 84 | I wanted to show people that so that they understood that I'm really about it. | 我想向人们展示,让他们明白,我是真的。 |
| 85 | And I'm not | 我没有 |
| 86 | somebody who's just going to sit here and try to peddle you a product because I don't think | 一个坐在这里想给你买东西的人 因为我不觉得 |
| 87 | that's necessary. | 这是必要的。 |
| 88 | We focus on inviting you into this whole entire world that really fits into | 我们专注于邀请你 进入这个真正适合 |
| 89 | your lifestyle. | 你的生活习惯。 |
| 90 | And I think that goes so far beyond skincare. | 我认为这远远超出了保护皮肤的范围。 |
| 91 | I think, how does it make you feel? | 我觉得,你有什么感觉? |
| 92 | I wanted to invoke feeling around the brand. | 我想在品牌周围唤起感觉 |
| 93 | I think that's such a good point. | 我想这是个好主意 |
| 94 | And young | 年轻 |
| 95 | consumers, I think they don't, they don't just want to buy a product. | 消费者,我认为他们不, 他们不只是想要买一个产品。 |
| 96 | They want to buy into or | 他们想买进或 |
| 97 | into a world. | 进入一个世界。 |
| 98 | They really want to support brands that I think align with their own values and their | 他们真的想支持品牌 我认为符合 他们自己的价值观和他们的 |
| 99 | worldview. | 世界观. |
| 100 | What would you say are Rode's values in 2026? | 2026年罗德的价值是什么? |
| 101 | And how do they overlap with your own? | 他们怎么和你自己重叠? |
| 102 | I do think that the accessibility and the inclusivity were two things that were really, | 我认为无障碍性和包容性 是两件事,其实, |
| 103 | really important to me because I want Rode to be for everyone. | 对我很重要 因为我希望Rode为所有人服务 |
| 104 | I never want it to feel like | 我从来不希望它感觉像 |
| 105 | it's not for somebody because I really believe that skincare is for everyone. | 不是给别人的 因为我真的相信护肤是每个人的 |
| 106 | And listen, | 听着 |
| 107 | I know when brands kind of, when they get really hyped, it can feel kind of like it's this like | 我知道,当品牌 那种,当他们得到真正的hypd, 它可以感觉 像它是这样 |
| 108 | club that you don't get to be a part of. | 俱乐部,你没有得到的一部分。 |
| 109 | And that's never been intentional with Rode. | 这从来就不是故意的 |
| 110 | When | 何时 |
| 111 | we've sold out of things and stuff, it's not to make it inaccessible. | 我们卖光了东西 不是为了让它无法进入 |
| 112 | That's actually always | 其实总是这样 |
| 113 | panicked me because I'm like, I always want people to be able to have access to it. | 惊慌失措 因为我喜欢, 我总是希望 人们能够接触到它。 |
| 114 | I want | и稱 |
| 115 | to continue to take feedback and make the brand better. | 继续接受反馈,使品牌更好. |
| 116 | That's what I think having a great brand | 有个好牌子 |
| 117 | is, is you listen to your customer and you listen to your consumer and say, okay, maybe this is not, | 意思是,你听客户的话,听消费者说,好吧,也许这不是, |
| 118 | maybe it works for me, but I need it to work for everyone. | 也许这对我有用 但我需要它来为每个人服务 |
| 119 | I need it to work for you. | 我需要它为你工作。 |
| 120 | Can you share an example of some feedback that you received and you thought that's actually | 你能分享一下你收到的一些反馈吗? |
| 121 | really smart? | 真的聪明吗? |
| 122 | We should make that change. | 我们应该做出改变。 |
| 123 | We had a formulation issue with our peptide | 我们有一个配方 与我们的peptide |
| 124 | lip treatment and it had like this grainy texture, right? | 嘴唇和它有 像这种谷物纹理,对不对? |
| 125 | You know, and when that happened, | 你知道,当它发生, |
| 126 | I was like, I was distraught. | 我当时很不高兴 |
| 127 | I was like, this happened right when we, it was in the beginning | 我当时想,这发生在我们开始的时候 |
| 128 | of the brand too. | 还有这个品牌 |
| 129 | And our lip treatments were our hero in the start. | 一开始我们的嘴唇是英雄 |
| 130 | There was so much feedback | 有这么多的反馈 |
| 131 | of that. | 就是这样 |
| 132 | And then people being like, I'm putting my Rode in hot water to like melt the graininess. | 然后人们就喜欢, 我把我的罗德 在热水中喜欢融化的谷物。 |
| 133 | I'm like, this is ridiculous. | 我很喜欢,这是荒谬的。 |
| 134 | I cannot have people, because I think what makes me the most upset is I | 我不能有别人, 因为我认为最让我难过的是我 |
| 135 | would never want somebody to spend their own hard earned money on something that becomes not worth | 永远不要有人 花自己的辛苦挣钱 做一些不值得的东西 |
| 136 | it for them. | 给他们的 |
| 137 | To your point about inclusivity, I think price point is obviously relevant to that | 对于你所说的包容性,我认为价格点显然与此相关 |
| 138 | topic. | 主题。 |
| 139 | And Rode, like on the scale of skincare, is pretty inexpensive. | 而罗德,就像在皮肤护理的规模, 相当便宜。 |
| 140 | What's your philosophy on | 你的哲学是什么 |
| 141 | pricing? | 定价? |
| 142 | And do you feel like there's an upper limit, a dollar amount that you would say like, | 你是否觉得有上限, 一美元,你会说, |
| 143 | I would never want to make a product and sell it for more than X amount? | 我永远不会想做一个产品 并销售超过X数量? |
| 144 | It really doesn't take | 这真的不用了 |
| 145 | much for a great skincare product to be great. | 伟大的皮肤护理产品是伟大的。 |
| 146 | It doesn't have to be $200. | 不须二百. |
| 147 | I end up reaching for | 我最终到达 |
| 148 | the less expensive thing a lot of the time, more than I would reach for, you know, I tried it all. | 最便宜的东西 很多时候, 比我想得到,你知道, 我尝试了这一切。 |
| 149 | I was like, I'm going to get the $150 serum and like, let me find the most expensive thing that | 我本来想,我去拿150美元血清 让我找到最贵的东西 |
| 150 | I can find and see if it really is like that much more crazy of a product. | 我可以发现,看看它是否真的像 更疯狂的产品。 |
| 151 | And I will say, | 我会说, |
| 152 | there are products out there that I've tried where I'm like, yeah, I see why this is like, | 外面有些产品,我尝试过 我喜欢的地方,是的,我知道为什么这是喜欢, |
| 153 | like name one. | 喜欢的名字之一。 |
| 154 | I think that the company Plated is very innovative with their technology with the | 我认为Pled公司 很有创意的科技 |
| 155 | exosomes, 我觉得很有趣。 | |
| 156 | But that is like very scientific and very different than, | 但是,这就像非常科学 和非常不同的, |
| 157 | you know, what we're doing at road. | 你知道,我们在做什么 在路上。 |
| 158 | We're trying to make solid, everyday staple | 我们正努力做坚固的日常主食 |
| 159 | skincare products. | 皮肤护理产品。 |
| 160 | But I'm also really inspired by the really scientific brands too, because | 但我也很受科学品牌的启发 |
| 161 | it makes me want to push ourselves to while doing something that is that innovative and scientific | 它让我想推动自己 同时做一些 创新和科学的东西 |
| 162 | and still making it accessible because I believe you can, I really do believe you can. | 并且仍然让它无障碍 因为我相信你可以, 我真的相信你可以。 |
| 163 | I want to | и稱 |
| 164 | talk about what it's like to have your appearance be connected to your profession. | 说说你的外表和你的职业有什么关系 |
| 165 | You're a skincare | 你是个护肤人 |
| 166 | brand founder, you have famously nice skin. | 品牌创始人,你有 著名的漂亮的皮肤。 |
| 167 | What is it like if you wake up one day on a big event | 如果你有一天在大型活动中醒来 会是什么样子 |
| 168 | day and you have like a rash or a breakout or something like that? | 一天,你有 像疹子或突围什么的? |
| 169 | I think people find that | 我想人们会发现 |
| 170 | really refreshing. | 真的很新鲜 |
| 171 | I've always been really open about like, I get perioral dermatitis pretty bad. | 我一直都很开明,就像, 我得到的腹膜皮炎非常糟糕。 |
| 172 | My appearance being tied to it, it kind of forces you to have to be like, | 我的外表被它绑着, 它有点强迫你不得不像, |
| 173 | just embrace every part of it. | 只是拥抱它的每一部分。 |
| 174 | You know what I mean? | 你知道我的意思吗? |
| 175 | And that's something, look, like genetically, | 和东西,看, 像基因, |
| 176 | I've not really ever struggled with acne. | 我从来没有真正挣扎 与疮。 |
| 177 | So I'm not going to sit there and try to pretend like I | 所以我不会坐在那里假装我 |
| 178 | know what it's like for somebody who's struggled with cystic acne, because that was never my | 知道什么是什么样的人 谁挣扎与囊肿疮, 因为那从来不是我的 |
| 179 | experience. | 经验 |
| 180 | Sure, I can speak to when I have like a pimple here or there and how I might treat it | 当然,我可以说话 当我有像一个小便便在这里或那里, 我如何对待它 |
| 181 | and what I might do, but that might not make somebody feel good who's dealt with cystic hormonal | 以及我可能做的, 但也许不会让人感觉好 谁处理囊肿激素 |
| 182 | acne their entire life. | 折磨他们一生 |
| 183 | But I always, when people ask me, hey, what do you think about, | 但我总是,当人们问我, 嘿,你在想什么, |
| 184 | what do you do for breakouts or what would you recommend to somebody who has really bad acne? | 你对突围做什么 或者你建议谁 谁有真正的坏疮? |
| 185 | The first person to say, you should probably see a dermatologist or like talk to your doctor, | 第一个人说,你可能应该 去看皮肤科医生 或者喜欢和你医生说话, |
| 186 | because a lot of the time what you're putting on it topically can only do so much than what it can | 因为很多时候,你 把它的主题 只能做这么多 |
| 187 | really do. | 痷 |
| 188 | Growing up, were there women that you saw and compared yourself to? | 长大了,你有没有看到过女人 把自己比起来? |
| 189 | Yeah, all the time. | 是啊,所有的时间。 |
| 190 | I think being young and like entering into the modeling industry, you're constantly looking at | 我认为年轻 就像进入模特行业 你一直在看 |
| 191 | other women and comparing your body, comparing your looks. | 其他女人,比较你的身体, 比较你的外表。 |
| 192 | I always see those quotes that say | 我总是看到那些引用说 |
| 193 | something along the lines of like comparison is like the thief of like joy. | 类似比喻的东西 就像快乐的小偷 |
| 194 | Yeah, and I really do | 是啊,我真的很喜欢 |
| 195 | resonate with that because I do think individuality is so sexy and so cool and so important. | 因为我觉得个性很性感 很酷 很重要 |
| 196 | As I've | 就像我一样 |
| 197 | you know, my confidence has changed a lot and a lot more too after becoming a mom. | 你知道,我的信心 已经改变了很多, 更多的,在成为母亲之后。 |
| 198 | Some days are better than others and we might have a day where we feel like nobody can touch | 有些日子比其他日子好 也许有一天我们觉得没人能碰 |
| 199 | me today and then the next day be like, I feel literally miserable and this person seems like | 今天我,第二天我感觉很痛苦 这个人似乎 |
| 200 | they have their shit together. | 他们有他们的东西在一起。 |
| 201 | Sorry, can I say that? | 对不起,我可以这么说吗? |
| 202 | This person seems like they have their shit | 这个人好像有他们的东西 |
| 203 | together and today it feels like I don't have anything figured out and together. | 在一起,今天,感觉好像 我没有任何想法,在一起。 |
| 204 | So I just think | 所以我觉得 |
| 205 | it's a constant journey having sunken into myself a lot more. | 它是一个不断的旅程, 沉入了我自己 更多。 |
| 206 | Like I really have enjoyed getting | 就像我真的很喜欢得到 |
| 207 | older. | 年长。 |
| 208 | Like I'm so excited to be in my 30s. | 就像我30多岁那么兴奋 |
| 209 | I'm excited to turn 30. | 我兴奋地30岁。 |
| 210 | I think when you're younger, | 我想当你年轻, |
| 211 | that sounds old and it sounds daunting. | 听起来很老了 听起来很可怕 |
| 212 | Like when I was 19, I was like 30. | 我19岁时30岁 |
| 213 | That's embarrassing and | 这太尴尬了 |
| 214 | now I'm 29 and I'm like 19 was so embarrassing. | 现在我29岁了,我19岁那么尴尬 |
| 215 | It's not even funny. | 这一点都不好笑 |
| 216 | Couldn't pay me to go back | 不能付钱让我回去 |
| 217 | to being 20 for a day. | 一天二十岁 |
| 218 | Like there's nothing there for me. | 譬如无我. |
| 219 | Not interested. | 不感兴趣。 |
| 220 | Can't wait to turn 30 and | 等不及30岁了 |
| 221 | continue to like see what's in store because it really only has gotten more enjoyable and | 继续喜欢看里面的东西 因为它真的只是 得到了更多的乐趣和 |
| 222 | just felt so much better. | 只是感觉好多了。 |
| 223 | But of course, when I was young, there was other women that I would | 但当然,当我年轻的时候, 还有其他女人,我会 |
| 224 | see that I was like, man, if like, if I just had her size waist or if I just looked a little bit | 你看,我就像,男人,如果喜欢, 如果我只是有她的尺寸腰 或者我只是看起来一点点 |
| 225 | more like that, or if I talked a little bit more like that, I think we all go through that though. | 更像那样,或者如果我说话 更像那样,我想我们都经历过。 |
| 226 | I hear you talk about the inclusivity piece and I hear you being very thoughtful about this. | 我听到你谈论 包容性的作品 我听到你非常周到 关于这一点。 |
| 227 | It's also like you're Hailey Bieber, you know, and you're selling this skincare line and you're | 你就像海莉・比伯,你知道, 你卖这个皮肤护理线 |
| 228 | using your image and I'm sure that there are young people out there who look at it and they're like, | 利用你的形象,我敢肯定,有年轻人 在那里谁看着它,他们喜欢, |
| 229 | I want that. | 我想这样 |
| 230 | Like they're comparing themselves to you. | 就像他们在跟你比 |
| 231 | What do you say to those young people | 你对这些年轻人怎么说? |
| 232 | who might be kind of having that bad day feeling because they're looking at an image of you? | 谁会有那种糟糕的一天的感觉 因为他们看着你的形象? |
| 233 | What I say is that I go through it too. | 我说的是我也经历过 |
| 234 | You know, it may not be for the same reason or | 你知道,可能不是因为同样的原因 |
| 235 | under the same circumstances, but it's something that I can definitely relate to and I can | 在同样的情况下, 但我可以肯定的东西 关系,我可以 |
| 236 | definitely understand. | 绝对明白 |
| 237 | And it's why I talk so much about embracing individuality because I think | 这就是为什么我谈论这么多 拥抱个性 因为我认为 |
| 238 | you're the only you that is on this entire planet. | 你是唯一一个在这个星球上的人 |
| 239 | And that's valuable. | 这是有价值的。 |
| 240 | Being yourself is cool. | 做你自己是很酷的。 |
| 241 | And being an individual is cool. | 作为一个个体是很酷的。 |
| 242 | And I think women have just like this beautiful intuition | 我觉得女人的直觉就像这样 |
| 243 | and knowing and understanding. | 和善知识。 |
| 244 | And I think that continues to become deeper as you get older and | 我想随着你变老 情况会越来越严重 |
| 245 | you know yourself more and you find yourself more. | 你更了解你自己 更会发现自己 |
| 246 | And that's something that I would tell young | 我会告诉年轻人 |
| 247 | people and I would go back also and tell myself that if you continue to listen to that and continue | 我也会回去告诉自己 如果你继续听下去 |
| 248 | to hone in on that and follow it, even when it maybe doesn't feel right, it's going to get you | 跟着它走 即使它感觉不太对劲 也会得到你 |
| 249 | exactly where you were always supposed to go. | 你总是该去的地方 |
| 250 | You've been famous for a long time. | 尔时世尊闻已. |
| 251 | You have been | 你曾经是 |
| 252 | famous for the family that you came from, the person that you married now as a founder and a | 以你出身的家族而闻名 你以创始人的身份嫁给了一个人 |
| 253 | businesswoman and your own right. | 女商人和你的权利。 |
| 254 | I'm curious if it ever feels harmful or beneficial, like both | 我好奇的是,如果它有 感觉有害或有益的, 像两者 |
| 255 | sides of the coin, to have all of that history kind of be out there and have to have people | 硬币的两边, 拥有所有的历史 那种在那里,并有人 |
| 256 | know your story in that way. | 以这种方式知道你的故事。 |
| 257 | I just think being in this position in general, there's a lot of | 我只是认为在一般情况下, 有很多 |
| 258 | you know and I think that when you're trying to figure out who you are on such a big scale in | 你知道,我觉得当你试图 找出你是谁 在这样一个大尺度 |
| 259 | front of so many different people, it feels really restricting to be able to like make really normal | 面对这么多不同的人, 感觉真的很有限 能够让真正正常 |
| 260 | mistakes or like do the wrong thing or say the wrong thing and not be able to just naturally | 错误或喜欢做错事 或说错话 而不能够自然地 |
| 261 | grow out of things and like grow in front of people and have that constantly be looked at | 生长在事物中,就像在人面前生长, 并有不断的注视 |
| 262 | in a microscope. | 在显微镜。 |
| 263 | I'm really uncomfortable a lot of time in interviews because I find that my words | 我经常去面试,因为我发现我说的话 |
| 264 | get twisted or you know things get totally misconstrued and then it makes me want to like | 被扭曲或你知道事情 完全被误解 然后它让我喜欢 |
| 265 | close off and not be open with people and I obviously am in a position where I want to share | 关上门,不要和别人公开 而我显然处于一个 我想分享的地位 |
| 266 | my life and I want to be able to be myself and be open and be exactly who I am. | 我想成为我自己 开诚布公 |
| 267 | It just I think it | 我觉得 |
| 268 | does feel hard sometimes having every single thing be looked at and picked apart and people kind of | 有时候感觉很艰难 每一件事都被看一看 被拆散 |
| 269 | they create a story for you and it can feel really uncomfortable and bizarre sometimes because I'm | 他们为你创造了一个故事 它会感到非常不舒服和奇怪 有时因为我 |
| 270 | like it's just not even real when people have made up their mind about something and about you. | 就像当人们决定了某些事情和关于你的事情时,这甚至都不是真的。 |
| 271 | They | 他们 |
| 272 | don't care what the truth is. | 别管真相是什么 |
| 273 | They just enjoy believing what they believe. | 他们只是喜欢相信自己所相信的 |
| 274 | So trying to you know | 所以试着让你知道 |
| 275 | I'm like want to defend myself and I want to tell the truth because that's not really what happened | 我想为自己辩护 我想说实话 因为事情不是这样的 |
| 276 | and this is what really happened. | 这就是真的发生了。 |
| 277 | Everybody's like okay we don't care that's not the dramatic | 每个人都像没事 我们不在乎这不是戏剧性 |
| 278 | like we want this version. | 就像我们要这个版本。 |
| 279 | So there's only so much I think you can do and say to a point where you | 所以,只有这么多,我认为你可以做 并说到一个地方你 |
| 280 | have to just kind of be like I need to live my life and continue to move forward regardless of | 只能是那种我需要 过我的生活,继续前进,无论 |
| 281 | people have something to say every single day. | 人们每天都有话要说 |
| 282 | Like it does not ever change and it doesn't it'll | 就像它永远不会改变,它不会 |
| 283 | just be something new or different that they're saying. | 只是一些新的或不同的 他们所说的。 |
| 284 | How do I want to like move in this life | 我今生想搬家怎么样? |
| 285 | and tell my story in a way that really just feels like comfortable for me. | 以我感觉舒服的方式 来讲述我的故事 |
| 286 | Looking back on your 20s | 回首你的20多岁 |
| 287 | what are the most important lessons that you learned about life? | 你学到的人生最重要的教训是什么? |
| 288 | I'm always somebody who's | 我总是一个人 |
| 289 | actually been really blunt and really honest but like not super confrontational and not very good | 其实很直率很诚实 但不是超级对抗,也不是很好 |
| 290 | at like setting boundaries. | 就像设定界限一样 |
| 291 | And you identified as a people pleaser for a long time. | 并且你确定一个人民 取悦长期。 |
| 292 | Yes still do | 是的,还是这样 |
| 293 | still do like still struggle with people pleasing not sure that I'll ever just be able to | 仍然喜欢与人们争吵 令人高兴 不确定我会永远能够 |
| 294 | you know flip a switch and be done you know. | 你知道翻开一个开关,然后做你知道的。 |
| 295 | The last 10 years of my life has really taught me how | 我生命的最后十年 教会了我如何 |
| 296 | important it is to be vocal about what you want, what you don't want, what's comfortable for you, | 重要的是,它是一个声音 关于你想要的,你不希望的, 为你舒适, |
| 297 | what's not. | 什么没有。 |
| 298 | And then being a mom really like really just sent it over the edge for me because | 然后当妈妈真的喜欢 刚刚把它送过来给我 因为 |
| 299 | when I had my son it became crucial to me to be able to have him see both of his parents say no | 当我生下儿子时 一定要让他看到他父母都拒绝 |
| 300 | we're not okay with this. | 我们对此不满意。 |
| 301 | I spent so much time with people asking like oh look how are you doing | 我花这么多时间和人们问, 像哦,看你在做什么 |
| 302 | I'm good I'm fine and not really being good and not really being fine. | 我很好,我很好,不是真正的好,也不是真正的好。 |
| 303 | I realized getting older I | 我意识到我变老了 |
| 304 | became so much more connected to people that I cared about and loved by just being like you know | 与我所关心和爱的人 联系得更紧密 就像你知道的 |
| 305 | what actually having a really hard time with this and I was like oh whoa vulnerability is really | 真正有 真正困难的时间 与这个,我就像哦哇 脆弱是真的 |
| 306 | cool because it actually really connects you to people and it really has only changed all | 很酷,因为它真的连接 你和人, 它真的只是改变了所有 |
| 307 | my relationships for the better. | 我的关系更好。 |
| 308 | It has made me a better businesswoman, it has made me a better | 它让我成为一个更好的女商人, 它让我成为一个更好的 |
| 309 | communicator, it has made me a better friend, a better mom, a better partner, all of the above. | 通讯员,这让我成为一个更好的朋友, 一个更好的妈妈, 一个更好的伙伴,所有上述。 |
| 310 | When do you feel most seen and understood? | 你什么时候能感觉到最有见识和理解的? |
| 311 | When I feel like somebody is genuinely relating | 当我觉得有人真的有关系的时候 |
| 312 | to my pain. | 伤害我的痛苦 |
| 313 | Obviously I'll use like my partner as an example my husband like | 显然我会用我的搭档作为例子 我丈夫喜欢 |
| 314 | when we both can identify that something like hurts in the same way and be like man I really | 当我们都能够识别 类似伤害的方式 和男人一样 我真的 |
| 315 | understand that because like I've been through that and I know how that feels and I know how | 理解这一点,因为就像我经历了, 我知道是什么感觉,我知道如何 |
| 316 | hurtful that can be and to just like again like connection like be connected over that I think | 伤害是可能, 和再次喜欢 像连接 像连接在一起 我想 |
| 317 | that makes me feel really seen like understanding makes me feel really seen like hey I really feel | 这让我感觉真的被看到 像理解让我感觉真的被看到 像嘿,我真的感觉 |
| 318 | you on that and I really understand I'm sorry that that's the way that that feels I'm sorry | 我非常理解,对不起,那是我感到抱歉的方式 |
| 319 | that you went through that today. | 今天你经历了那些 |
| 320 | To be understood I think is like to be known and I think why that's | 被理解 我认为就像被了解 我想为什么 |
| 321 | so important to me is because I feel so misunderstood so much from an outside perspective I get | 对我来说如此重要,因为我觉得如此 误解这么多 从外部的角度,我得到 |
| 322 | misunderstood so often so then being understood makes me feel very seen. | 常常被误解,然后被理解 让我觉得很受人瞩目 |
| 323 | Do you think Justin | 你觉得贾斯汀 |
| 324 | understands you the most of anybody? | 了解你大多数人吗? |
| 325 | I would say so yeah. | 我会这么说的 |
| 326 | That means you married the right person. | 这意味着你娶对的人。 |
| 327 | Yeah I think so. | 是的,我想是这样。 |
| 328 | Do you think you're gonna start another business? | 你觉得你会再创业吗? |
| 329 | I think I'd like to eventually | 我想我最终会想 |
| 330 | yeah I'm not going anywhere with road I'm here and here to stay like I and that was another thing | 是啊,我不会去任何地方与道路 我在这里和这里 保持像我,那是另一件事 |
| 331 | was really important to me with being with elf is that you know you hear a lot of stories that | 和精灵在一起对我很重要 是因为你知道你听到很多故事 |
| 332 | founders they sell their business and they get pushed out or they leave or they kind of just | 创始人卖掉他们的生意 然后被赶出去 或者他们离开 或者他们只是 |
| 333 | you know get a payday and they decide to move on and I was like that's absolutely not what I want. | 你知道得到一个发薪日 他们决定继续前进 而我就像那绝对不是我想要的。 |
| 334 | I want to be here forever I want to be in I'm so ingrained in this brand I could never imagine | 我想永远在这里,我想在 我是如此的根植在这个品牌 我无法想象 |
| 335 | not being so intricately woven into it but I definitely have other aspirations and | 我当然有其他愿望 |
| 336 | things that I'm inspired by and that I'm thinking of. | 我所灵感和思考的东西。 |
| 337 | Do you want to tease anything? | 你想开玩笑吗? |
| 338 | There's nothing to tease yet and that's me being super honest like I'm tinkering with ideas and I | 还没有什么可以开玩笑的,这就是我 超级诚实,就像我 修补的想法和我 |
| 339 | have thoughts and inspirations and things that I I would love to see come to life. | 有思想和灵感 和东西,我想看到生命。 |
| 340 | I don't have | 我没有 |
| 341 | anything really yet. | 什么都没有 |
| 342 | There's no secret file in the office. | 办公室里没有秘密档案 |
| 343 | There's no secret file in the office it's | 办公室里没有秘密档案 |
| 344 | just just kind of like little brain ideas that I'm thinking about. | 只是有点像小脑的想法 我想。 |
| 345 | I'm an entrepreneur at the end | 我最后还是个企业家 |
| 346 | of the day I want to expand in business and I want to be able to do more things but I'm definitely | 那天我想扩大生意 我想做更多的事情 但我肯定 |
| 347 | not in a rush if I was giving you a short answer like yes there is some more that I'd like to do | 如果我给你一个简短的回答 喜欢"是"的话,我并不急 我还想做一些 |
| 348 | outside of outside of road. | 道路外边 |
| 349 | I'm excited to see what it is eventually. | 我很高兴看到它最终是什么。 |
| 350 | Thank you thank you. | 谢谢 |
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