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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:18 | Ladies and gentlemen, Robert De Niro. | 女士们,先生们,罗伯特·德尼罗。 |
| 0:30 | We'll just get a quick photo here. | 我们在这里拍张快照 |
| 0:55 | Robert, what a pleasure. | 罗伯特,真荣幸 |
| 0:56 | I usually do introductions at the start, but I'm just not going to bother | 我通常在开始的时候做介绍, 但我只是不打扰 |
| 0:59 | this afternoon. | - 今天下午 - 谢谢 |
| 1:01 | 我记得你在Graham Norton节目上的采访 | |
| 1:04 | been five or six years ago now, and Graham, rather like me, was completely starstruck | 五六年前 Graham 和我一样 完全被吓坏了 |
| 1:09 | to look very nervous, and he didn't know what to call you, so he said, should I call you | 看上去很紧张 他不知道该怎么称呼你 所以他说 我该给你打电话 |
| 1:12 | Robert, Sir Robert, and you just said, call me Barb. | 罗伯特,罗伯特爵士,你刚才说,叫我芭芭拉。 |
| 1:16 | Can I get a knife out of here? | 我能拿把刀离开这里吗? |
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|---|---|---|
| 1 | Ladies and gentlemen, Robert De Niro. | 女士们,先生们,罗伯特·德尼罗。 |
| 2 | We'll just get a quick photo here. | 我们在这里拍张快照 |
| 3 | Robert, what a pleasure. | 罗伯特,真荣幸 |
| 4 | I usually do introductions at the start, but I'm just not going to bother | 我通常在开始的时候做介绍, 但我只是不打扰 |
| 5 | this afternoon. | - 今天下午 - 谢谢 |
| 6 | 我记得你在Graham Norton节目上的采访 | |
| 7 | been five or six years ago now, and Graham, rather like me, was completely starstruck | 五六年前 Graham 和我一样 完全被吓坏了 |
| 8 | to look very nervous, and he didn't know what to call you, so he said, should I call you | 看上去很紧张 他不知道该怎么称呼你 所以他说 我该给你打电话 |
| 9 | Robert, Sir Robert, and you just said, call me Barb. | 罗伯特,罗伯特爵士,你刚才说,叫我芭芭拉。 |
| 10 | Can I get a knife out of here? | 我能拿把刀离开这里吗? |
| 11 | If it was up to me, Bob. | 如果由我决定,鲍勃。 |
| 12 | So the question is, should I call you Robert, Bob, Sir Robert, Bob. | 所以问题是,我应该叫你罗伯特,鲍勃,罗伯特爵士,鲍勃。 |
| 13 | Brilliant, glad we got that out of the way. | 棒极了 很高兴我们让开 |
| 14 | Look, it's really well known that you're extremely | 你看,这是真的 众所周知,你是极其 |
| 15 | difficult to tie down to interview. | 很难捆绑下来采访。 |
| 16 | You've flown over yesterday from the States to be | 你昨天从美国飞过来 |
| 17 | with us in New York, and I've got lots of nice things to say about the Union, but why | 在纽约和我们在一起 我有很多关于工会的好话要说 但是为什么 |
| 18 | the hell are you here? | 你在这里干什么? |
| 19 | Well, I wanted to get out of the house, and I was going to try and do this a little. | 嗯,我想走出家门, 我想尝试 做这个一点点。 |
| 20 | There's | 还有 |
| 21 | a film I was going to do for a couple of days in Greece, so I said, well, let me stop here | 我要在希腊拍几天的电影 所以我说,好吧,让我停下来 |
| 22 | and arrange that, and then this other thing in Spain, it's five chefs, well known chefs | 然后安排,然后在西班牙的另外一件事, 它是五个厨师,著名厨师 |
| 23 | in Spain are cooking a meal for me in Madrid on Tuesday, and I said, well, let me come | 西班牙周二在马德里为我做饭 我说 让我来吧 |
| 24 | and do these two things. | 并做这两件事。 |
| 25 | This I would like to do for you guys, of course, and that's | 我当然想为你们做这些事 |
| 26 | a different type of experience, and it's that simple. | 不同类型的经验, 和它的简单。 |
| 27 | The thing that I was going to do was | 我本来打算做的是 |
| 28 | push back, so I said, let me go anyway, and that's it. | 退后,所以我说,让我走,就这样。 |
| 29 | Yeah, we were speaking earlier at lunch that we send you a letter and email three times | 是的,我们早些时候在午餐时说, 我们给你发了一封信和电子邮件三次。 |
| 30 | a year, every year, probably since the 80s, so you guys are very lucky. | 一年,每年,也许从80年代开始, 所以你们是非常幸运的。 |
| 31 | Yeah, no, I don't know why, because, well, I don't know. | 是啊,不,我不知道为什么, 因为,嗯,我不知道。 |
| 32 | It looked like something I should | 看起来像我该做的事 |
| 33 | do. | 说吧 |
| 34 | Yeah, great. | 是啊,伟大的。 |
| 35 | Tell the chefs in Spain about the food here as well, please. | 请跟西班牙的厨师们讲讲这里的食物 |
| 36 | I'm not going | 我不会去的 |
| 37 | to ask many questions, because I'm sure there are literally hundreds out in the audience | 问很多问题, 因为我相信有 字面上数百 出在观众 |
| 38 | today, but I'll kick off with a few. | 今天,但我会踢几个。 |
| 39 | I just wanted to ask at this stage, have you got | 我只是想问 在现阶段,你有 |
| 40 | any exciting projects on the go film-wise? | 任何令人兴奋的项目 上电影? |
| 41 | What are you up to at the moment? | 你现在在做什么? |
| 42 | I've got a couple of small things like cameo type things coming up in the next few months | 我有几件小事,像Comeo类型的东西 来在接下来的几个月 |
| 43 | into the spring, and then that's it. | 进入春天,然后就是这样。 |
| 44 | I have other things in the fall, but I don't want | 秋天我还有别的事情,但我不想 |
| 45 | to talk about them, because I don't really know what's going to happen. | 因为我真的不知道会发生什么 |
| 46 | They're supposed | 他们应该是 |
| 47 | to go, and that's some very great projects, but I'm superstitious about whether, you know, | 和一些非常伟大的项目, 但我迷信是否,你知道, |
| 48 | if you talk about it, there's the expression, talk it away, but there's also just, you know, | 如果你谈论它,有 表达,说开它, 但也有,你知道, |
| 49 | you never know, so I'd rather wait and let it just happen. | 你永远不知道,所以我宁愿等待 让它发生。 |
| 50 | But I'll ask one more question. | 但我会再问一个问题 |
| 51 | Are they producing roles, or are they acting roles? | 他们是在演戏还是演戏? |
| 52 | Yeah, acting. | 对,演戏 |
| 53 | Okay, that's very exciting. | 好吧,这是非常令人兴奋的。 |
| 54 | Okay, I mean, you are probably the best actor we've had | 好吧,我是说,你可能是我们最好的演员 |
| 55 | the pleasure to welcome, so I'll shame you before, and I've gone through the records, | 很高兴欢迎,所以我会 羞辱你之前,我已经看过记录, |
| 56 | and I just can't. | 我却做不到 |
| 57 | That's so nice of you. | 尔时善财. |
| 58 | And whilst I was thinking about what to ask you for this event, I watched a lot of interviews | 当我在想这个活动需要你做什么时 我看过很多采访 |
| 59 | of other people talking about you, and they all had a sort of similar theme, but the one | 其他人谈论你, 他们都有类似的主题, 但有一个 |
| 60 | that stuck out was Leonardo DiCaprio talking about you at an award ceremony, and he said | 莱昂纳多·迪卡普里奥在颁奖典礼上谈到你 他说 |
| 61 | that you were the, quote, consummate actor. | 你是,引言, 完美的演员。 |
| 62 | So I didn't quite know what specifically | 所以我不知道具体是什么 |
| 63 | he meant. | 他说的 |
| 64 | That was the end of the comment. | 这是评论的结尾。 |
| 65 | So my question to you is what makes a great | 所以我问你 是什么让一个伟大的 |
| 66 | actor as opposed to a good actor? | 演员还是好演员? |
| 67 | Why are you the consummate actor? | 你为什么是完美的演员? |
| 68 | I don't know. | 师曰. |
| 69 | It's probably better for critics to say that, or people in the audience. | 批评者这样说,或者观众中的人可能更好. |
| 70 | I mean, there are many types of actors who are not actors, don't do what I do, and they're | 我的意思是,有很多类型的演员 谁不是演员, 不要做我做什么,他们是 |
| 71 | great in a certain way. | 以某种方式是伟大的。 |
| 72 | I don't know. | 师曰. |
| 73 | I remember when I was a student, I was 17, studying at | 我记得我当学生时,我17岁,在 |
| 74 | a place called the Dramatic Workshop, and there was the head of the school at the time | 一个叫戏剧工场的地方 当时有学校的校长 |
| 75 | who said, why do you want to be an actor? | 谁说,你为什么要当演员? |
| 76 | I said, I wasn't sure. | 我说,我不确定。 |
| 77 | I just wanted to go, | 我只是想离开 |
| 78 | but he said, because you want to express yourself. | 但他说, 因为你想表达自己。 |
| 79 | And I said, okay. | 我说,好吧。 |
| 80 | That's a good reason, you | 这是个好理由,你 |
| 81 | know. | 知道吗? |
| 82 | And I think that's true. | 我认为这是真的。 |
| 83 | And when you look at new people in the industry now, is there anyone you're really excited | 当你看到新人 现在在行业, 有谁你真的很兴奋 |
| 84 | about, any actors you're really excited about? | 你对哪个演员感到兴奋? |
| 85 | What are the qualities that you think makes | 你所认为的品质是什么 |
| 86 | them impressive? | 他们令人印象深刻? |
| 87 | There are so many wonderful actors around these days because there's so much more to | 这些天有这么多优秀的演员 因为还有这么多 |
| 88 | do. | 说吧 |
| 89 | When I was younger, in my 20s, there were what you call independent films, but not like | 当我年轻时,我20多岁, 有你所谓的独立电影, 但不喜欢 |
| 90 | today. | 今时. |
| 91 | Everything on television, this and that, it's just endless. | 电视上的所有东西 都无穷无尽 |
| 92 | All the opportunities | 所有的机会 |
| 93 | for not only actors, but everybody who works in that type of entertainment. | 不仅为演员, 也为所有在这种娱乐中工作的人。 |
| 94 | I mean, I | 我是说,我... |
| 95 | saw, I just saw Jessica Chastain in something about Tammy Fay. | 我刚刚看到杰西卡・查斯坦 在塔米・费伊的事上 |
| 96 | She was wonderful in it. | 她在里面表现得很好 |
| 97 | I saw Cate Blanchett in a couple of things. | 我看到凯特·布兰切特在几件事上。 |
| 98 | We all know how great she is. | 我们都知道她有多伟大 |
| 99 | Leo DiCaprio | 里奥·迪卡普里奥 |
| 100 | is wonderful in things he does. | 对他做的事来说是美妙的 |
| 101 | And I can't, there's Christian Bale, who's older | 我不能,有克里斯蒂安·鲍尔,他年纪大了 |
| 102 | generation, but between mine and the next generation. | 但介于我和下一代之间 |
| 103 | And I can't even, I'm forgetting | 我连都忘不了 |
| 104 | so many wonderful actors that it's endless. | 这么多优秀的演员 以至于无穷无尽 |
| 105 | Just great actors. | 只是伟大的演员。 |
| 106 | I mean, I couldn't do | 我的意思是,我不能这样做 |
| 107 | what they do. | 他们做什么。 |
| 108 | I'm sure you could. | 我敢肯定,你会的。 |
| 109 | Nonetheless, you made a few points there about the industry as a | 尽管如此,你还是对这个行业提出了几点看法。 |
| 110 | whole. | 整个。 |
| 111 | And your first feature film, is it 1965? | 而你的第一部故事片,是1965年吗? |
| 112 | I can't quite remember what your first | 我记不清你第一次是什么了 |
| 113 | feature film was. | 故事片是。 |
| 114 | 这是和Brian De Palma的婚礼 | |
| 115 | And that was the 60s? | 那是60年代吗? |
| 116 | Yeah, I was 19. | 是啊,我19岁。 |
| 117 | 19. | 19 (中文(简体) ). |
| 118 | So let's see, it was early 60s, 60s. | 所以,让我们来看看,这是60,60年代初。 |
| 119 | You've been in the industry for decades, and we were talking about The Irishman earlier, | 你从事这个行业已经几十年了 我们之前讨论过爱尔兰人 |
| 120 | Netflix发布这个。 | |
| 121 | How much has the industry changed since you entered it | 自从你进入后 产业发生了多大变化 |
| 122 | as a 19 year old? | 作为19岁? |
| 123 | And what do you think are the biggest changes? | 你觉得最大的变化是什么? |
| 124 | Well, the biggest changes are, like I say, so many other, what do you call them, formats | 嗯,最大的变化是,像我说的, 很多其他的, 你叫它们,格式 |
| 125 | come out or whatever on television. | 出来什么的电视上。 |
| 126 | It's not television the way I used to know it. | 这不是我以前知道的电视 |
| 127 | The actors always had a conflict whether they would go to California and test for a TV series, | 演员总是有冲突 他们是否要去加州 测试电视连续剧, |
| 128 | which might be in those days a seven year contract, a commitment to time, if it worked, | 可能在那几天里 一个7年的合同, 一个对时间的承诺,如果它工作, |
| 129 | seven years. | 7岁 |
| 130 | The only upside to that, if it lasted seven years, you could be assured, | 唯一有利的,如果它持续7年, 你可以保证, |
| 131 | the way I think I understand it, is that you would live off residuals for a good part of | 我认为我理解的是 你会靠残骸生活 |
| 132 | ネ | |
| 133 | The other thing is that you've then, it's a step down, doing a TV thing, | 另外一件事是,你已经, 这是一个步骤下来,做电视的事情, |
| 134 | which is not respected the way doing movies is. | 它不尊重 电影的方式。 |
| 135 | Some television stuff was respected, but | 一些电视上的东西受到尊重,但 |
| 136 | not the way it is today. | 不是今天这样 |
| 137 | There's great stuff on television all over the place. | 电视上有很多好东西 |
| 138 | What are the big changes? | 有什么大变化? |
| 139 | What are the key changes? | 关键的变化是什么? |
| 140 | That's it. | 就这样 |
| 141 | I mean, it's huge. | 我的意思是,这是巨大的。 |
| 142 | It's huge. | 这是巨大的。 |
| 143 | Everything is, and then they have all these | 一切都是,然后他们得到了所有这些 |
| 144 | tent pole films, Marvel, blah, blah, the big ones, and that's another thing. | 帐篷杆电影,马维尔,等等, 大的,这是另一回事。 |
| 145 | I think what I remember when all that started, there were three movies that sort of started | 我想当这一切开始的时候,我记得, 有三部电影 排序开始 |
| 146 | the blockbuster type thing, if you will. | 如果你愿意的话,是"块块"之类的 |
| 147 | It was Godfather 1, 2, Jaws, and The Exorcist. | 是教父1、2、Jaws和驱魔师 |
| 148 | That was kind of set it off in motion, but today it's a whole other thing. | 这有点启动,但今天是另一回事。 |
| 149 | So many people can work, and everything is saturated with good material, good stuff. | 很多人都能工作, 并且每件事物都是用好材料,好东西饱和的. |
| 150 | You were speaking earlier about the Irishmen and Scorsese. | 你刚才说的是爱尔兰人和斯科塞人 |
| 151 | We'll talk perhaps a bit more | 我们再谈吧 |
| 152 | about that in a second, but one of the things you remarked on was cinemas and the place | 在一秒钟内,但你所说的话之一 是电影和地点 |
| 153 | of cinemas in film culture. | 电影文化中的电影院。 |
| 154 | Are they going to become obsolete, or do you think there's | 他们是不是要过时了 或者你认为 |
| 155 | still a place for watching films at cinema today? | 今天还是电影院看电影的地方吗? |
| 156 | That's a good question. | 问曰. |
| 157 | I don't know, really, the experience of watching a movie, especially | 我不知道,真的,看电影的经验,特别是 |
| 158 | say a comedy in a theater, is not the same at home. | 说一个喜剧在剧院, 是不一样的在家里。 |
| 159 | If you're with a bunch of friends | 如果你和一群朋友在一起的话 |
| 160 | and family, you can get a good thing out of it, but it's like a movie I did. | 和家人,你可以得到一个好的东西出来, 但它是像电影我做了。 |
| 161 | I told the | 我告诉了 |
| 162 | director the other day, they wanted me to look at it, and I said I've got to look at | 导演前几天,他们要我看, 我说我得看 |
| 163 | it with an audience, because when you look at it in a vacuum, in a screening room, or | 因为当你在真空中,在放映室里看时, |
| 164 | at home, it's just not the same. | 在家里,它只是不一样。 |
| 165 | So we set up a bunch of people, the director said, and | 导演说,我们安排了一群人 |
| 166 | the producer set up people to come watch 15, 20 people. | 制片人安排人来观看 15,20人。 |
| 167 | We watched it. | 我们看了 |
| 168 | Nobody knew I was | 没人知道我是谁 |
| 169 | there, because he didn't want them to feel that they'd have to have some kind of good | 那儿,因为他不想让他们觉得 他们有某种好 |
| 170 | reaction. | 反应 |
| 171 | Because I was there, I snuck in and snuck out after it started and before it | 因为我在那里,我偷偷溜进 并溜出它开始和之前 |
| 172 | ended. | 结束 。 |
| 173 | And I could get a much better sense of that just with the audience, even though | 我就能对观众有更好的感觉,尽管 |
| 174 | this was a kind of partial audience, because they were friends and relatives, but that's | 这是一种片面观众, 因为他们是朋友和亲戚, |
| 175 | okay. | 还好。 |
| 176 | That's better than nothing. | 这总比什么都没有好 |
| 177 | So I think going to a movie and seeing certain films, | 所以我想去看电影 看一些电影 |
| 178 | the energy that comes out of the audience, watching a movie that has funny parts, emotional | 观众的能量,看一部电影 有有趣的部分,情感 |
| 179 | parts, whatever, that's something to be thought about and considered. | 无论是什么,这是值得思考和考虑的。 |
| 180 | I don't know how it's | 我不知道这是怎么回事 |
| 181 | going to go in the future. | 将来会去的 |
| 182 | It seems to me, especially with the pandemic, it's created | 在我看来,特别是大流行,它已经形成 |
| 183 | the situation, or helped accelerate it, if you will. | 或帮助加速,如果你愿意。 |
| 184 | That's my answer. | 这是我的答案。 |
| 185 | Fascinating. | 异闻. |
| 186 | Following up on that point, scripts getting shown to you, or films getting | 接下来,剧本会给你看 或者电影会 |
| 187 | shown to you, I imagine you get tens and tens and hundreds of scripts shown to you. | 给你看,我想你得到的剧本 几十和数百。 |
| 188 | Not really, but anyway. | 没有,但无论如何。 |
| 189 | I imagine over your career you've had tens and tens of hundreds of scripts shown to you. | 我想在你职业生涯中,你有 成千上万的剧本展示给你。 |
| 190 | Now, what are the things that are in your mind when working out whether to take on a | 现在,什么是事物 在你的脑海里 研究是否采取 |
| 191 | project? | 计划? |
| 192 | What are you thinking about? | 你在想什麽? |
| 193 | Is it certain principles, certain people? | 是某些原则,某些人? |
| 194 | What are | 这是什么 |
| 195 | the people? | 人民吗? |
| 196 | Of course, the material, that has to be special. | 当然,材料,必须是特殊的。 |
| 197 | There are special people | 有特别的人 |
| 198 | I've worked with over the years, I've worked with again, and just about commit. | 多年来我一直和他一起工作, 我又和他一起工作, 并致力于工作。 |
| 199 | I'm waiting | 我等着呢 |
| 200 | on the material, though I know it's going to be special, and when it comes, it is special. | 材料上,虽然我知道它将是特别的, 当它出现的时候,它是特别的。 |
| 201 | Those people, I wait, we talk, I get versions of the script coming, and those are the things | 那些人,我等待,我们说话, 我得到了版本的剧本来, |
| 202 | that are worth working on, waiting for, as I am doing now with a couple of projects. | 值得努力,等待, 就像我现在在做一些项目。 |
| 203 | The ones I said I didn't want to talk about, because I want to wait. | 我说我不想谈的那些 因为我想等 |
| 204 | They've been concretised, if you will. | 如果你愿意的话,它们已经被具体化了。 |
| 205 | Go pictures, if you will. | 去拍照,如果你愿意的话。 |
| 206 | I've got two more questions, and I think I'll open it up. | 我还有两个问题,我想我会打开它。 |
| 207 | One is a very short one. | 一个很短。 |
| 208 | Do you | 你会吗? |
| 209 | have a favourite part that you've played in your career? | 有你职业生涯中最爱的角色吗? |
| 210 | Well, I had fun in this movie I just did called About My Father with Sebastian Maniscalco, | 我和塞巴斯蒂安·曼尼斯卡尔科 一起打给我父亲的电影里很开心 |
| 211 | who is an Italian-American comedian. | 他是一个意大利裔美国喜剧演员。 |
| 212 | I don't know if they know him here, if he's ever played | 我不知道他们在这里认识他,他有没有玩过 |
| 213 | here. | 在这里。 |
| 214 | He has big audiences in the States, and he wrote a script with the director, Laura | 他在美国有很多观众 他和导演劳拉一起写剧本 |
| 215 | Taruso, who's Italian-American and understands the world, about his relationship with his | 塔鲁索是意大利裔美国人,他了解世界,他和他的关系 |
| 216 | father. | 父亲 |
| 217 | That was fun to do, and coming from a real place, because they both know the director, | 这很有趣, 而且来自一个真正的地方, 因为他们都认识导演, |
| 218 | Laura, and Sebastian, of course, his jokes are about his family and stuff like that. | 当然,劳拉和塞巴斯蒂安的笑话 是关于他的家人之类的 |
| 219 | They're real. | 他们是真的 |
| 220 | I had fun doing Midnight Run. | 我玩过"午夜跑步" |
| 221 | We've always tried over the years to do a | 我们多年来一直尝试做一个 |
| 222 | sequel in whatever way it could be done, and we still are. | 以任何可能的方式续集,我们仍然是。 |
| 223 | I enjoyed to analyse this. | 我喜欢分析这个 |
| 224 | I | 一、导 言 |
| 225 | can I say the best one, my favourite? | 我可以说最好的一个,我最喜欢的? |
| 226 | No. | 没有 |
| 227 | It's always hard. | 常为难. |
| 228 | People ask, it's like asking | 人们问,这就像问 |
| 229 | about your favourite child. | 关于你最喜欢的孩子 |
| 230 | Even though you might have it, you can't say it. | 尽管你可能拥有它,但你不能说出来。 |
| 231 | Okay, last question from me, and I'm sure this will be followed up by people here today, | 好吧,我最后一个问题, 我相信今天在这里的人会跟进, |
| 232 | but we probably have to talk about your relationship with Martin Scorsese. | 但我们可能得谈谈 你和马丁·斯科塞斯的关系 |
| 233 | It's one of the most | 这是最伟大的 |
| 234 | interesting films. | 有趣的电影。 |
| 235 | There's ten films you've done now, including this one. | 你现在拍了十部电影 包括这部 |
| 236 | Can you pick | 你能选吗? |
| 237 | out or distill what it is that has meant you have kept collaborating again and again over | 或蒸馏它是什么 意味着你一直合作 一次又一次 |
| 238 | such a long period of time? | 这么长时间? |
| 239 | Can you distill what that is? | 你能提炼出那是什么吗? |
| 240 | I've just been very lucky to be able to work with Marty all these years. | 这么多年来我一直很幸运 能和马蒂合作 |
| 241 | He's very good | 他很厉害 |
| 242 | with taking chances, trying something that you want to do, and will always keep the guard | 冒险,尝试一些你想做的事, 并且永远守护着 |
| 243 | rails up if you're going to go too crazy, and the most he'll do is he'll try it and | 你要是太疯狂了 他最多会试试 |
| 244 | cut it out. | 别闹了 |
| 245 | There's a certain freedom with him, and it's not just with me. | 与他有一定的自由,不只是与我. |
| 246 | Other actors | 其他行为者 |
| 247 | have the same feeling about him, other people in production, production designer, anybody | 对他有同样的感觉, 其他人在生产, 生产设计师,任何人 |
| 248 | in the creative, the costume designer, anybody in the DP, director of photography, all have, | 在创意,服装设计师, 任何人在DP, 导演摄影,都有, |
| 249 | I think, with Marty. | 我想,与马蒂。 |
| 250 | He has very specific ideas at certain times, and in the telling | 他有非常具体的想法 在某些时候,和在告诉 |
| 251 | of the story visually, say with the DP, and how we're going to track a shot, do this, | 我们如何追踪镜头, 做到这一点, |
| 252 | zoom that, close up, but even then, he has flexibility. | 放大,关闭,但即使这样,他也有灵活性。 |
| 253 | He's always listening to whatever | 他总是听什么 |
| 254 | the suggestion will be from whoever the creative input is. | 无论是谁的创意投入都会提供建议。 |
| 255 | The films are beautifully shot. | 电影拍得很漂亮 |
| 256 | Is there any principles about film that you think you share | 有没有关于电影的原则 你认为你分享 |
| 257 | with Martin? | 和马丁? |
| 258 | We're the same age, practically a couple of months apart, so we as kids would see movies | 我们同龄,几乎相隔几个月, 所以我们小时候会看电影 |
| 259 | traditionally. | 传统上。 |
| 260 | In the big movie theaters, a double bill, certain movies had an influence | 在大电影院,一个双重法案, 某些电影有影响 |
| 261 | on us, but Marty would go much further in watching movies, and as time went on, I always | 但马蒂在看电影方面会走得更远 随着时间的流逝,我总是 |
| 262 | say I'll ask him about a movie by some director from Indonesia or wherever else, or Africa | 我会问他印度尼西亚或其他地方的导演 或非洲的电影 |
| 263 | or something, and he'll know that, a good chance he'll be aware of that director, that | 或者什么的,他会知道, 一个很好的机会,他会知道那个导演, |
| 264 | movie, which I'm like lost. | 电影,我就像迷路了。 |
| 265 | I'm like, he's way off, but he's like, that's what he does. | 我很喜欢,他很离谱, 但他喜欢,这就是他做什么。 |
| 266 | He's like an encyclopedia of film. | 他就像一部电影的百科全书. |
| 267 | That sticks out a lot. | 这招很厉害 |
| 268 | You're both genuine movie fans. | 你们都是真正的电影迷 |
| 269 | You love film. | 你爱电影。 |
| 270 | Emotionally, we both feel the same way about films that have influenced us as kids over | 情感上,我们都觉得 电影影响我们小时候 |
| 271 | the years when we were younger and even today, and we have just a very lucky situation. | 我们年轻的时候,甚至今天, 我们有一个非常幸运的情况。 |
| 272 | We work together well. | 我们合作得很好 |
| 273 | I don't know how to explain it. | 我不知道该怎么解释 |
| 274 | We better open up to the audience, because I'm sure we've got a lot of questions to get through here. | 我们最好向观众开放,因为我相信我们有很多问题要通过这里. |
| 275 | So if you'd like to put over your hands, this is going to be practically impossible. | 所以,如果你想把你的手, 这几乎是不可能的。 |
| 276 | Do you want to pick? | 你想选吗? |
| 277 | Oh, me? | 哦,我吗? |
| 278 | I don't know. | 师曰. |
| 279 | Jesus. | 耶稣。 |
| 280 | Should we just go here, right in the front, start off with just here? | 我们从这里开始,从前面开始? |
| 281 | Thank you so much for being here. | 谢谢你能来 |
| 282 | Any advice for aspiring actors? | 对有志向的演员有什么建议吗? |
| 283 | Yeah, I always say just you've got to keep trying, you've got to keep going. | 是啊,我总是说,只是你必须 继续尝试,你必须继续前进。 |
| 284 | You can't worry about feeling rejected. | 你不能担心被拒绝的感觉 |
| 285 | I always say if you don't go, you'll never know. | 我总是说,如果你不走, 你永远不会知道。 |
| 286 | If that's through an audition, say, an audition that you know already, say if it's in the theater, I don't know. | 如果通过试镜,比如说,试镜 你知道,如果它在剧院,我不知道。 |
| 287 | I haven't gone to an audition for a while. | 我好久没去试镜了 |
| 288 | There have been some situations where I say, let's have a reading of this. | 有些情况下,我说,让我们读读这个。 |
| 289 | The director, the writer, and I say, let's have a reading of this, a table reading, and let's read it for all of us. | 导演,编剧,我说,我们来读一下这个,一张桌子,大家一起看. |
| 290 | Let's make sure you really want me for this and that I feel I'm right. | 让我们确保你真的需要我 这一点,我觉得我是对的。 |
| 291 | I have done that in the last couple of years from time to time. | 我在过去几年中不时这样做。 |
| 292 | Just so nobody can feel like, oh, no, now we're committed to him. | 只是让没人能感觉到, 哦,不,现在我们致力于他。 |
| 293 | I'm not so sure about him now after I saw him read. | 我看见他读书后,现在还不太确定他是谁 |
| 294 | Even though a table reading is kind of a laid backs, you're not performing, you're just doing what you can do without getting all worked up. | 虽然桌读是种铺垫的背部,你没有表演,你只是做你能做的,却不激动. |
| 295 | But I always tell young actors to, when you go to meet a director and you're reading for something, don't be afraid to take chances. | 但我总是告诉年轻演员, 当你去见导演, 你读的东西, 不要害怕冒险。 |
| 296 | And follow your instinct even though it's wrong. | 并随顺本觉虽错. |
| 297 | If it's your gut instinct, follow it because you're not going to get the part. | 如果这是你的直觉 跟着它 因为你不会得到角色。 |
| 298 | So at least the casting director, more importantly than the director, will notice that and say to the next director, you know, I have somebody who is interesting. | 所以,至少 铸造导演,比导演更重要, 会注意到这一点, 并告诉下一任导演, 你知道,我有一个有趣的人。 |
| 299 | They're not what you have in mind for this part, but I think you should meet them. | 他们不是你想的那样 但是我觉得你应该见见他们 |
| 300 | Because that could be where that director would say, you know what? | 因为那可能是那个导演会说的地方 你知道吗? |
| 301 | They're not the way I envisioned this character, but they are working and they're so interesting in what they're doing. | 他们没有我想象的这个角色, 但他们在工作, 他们是如此有趣 他们在做什么。 |
| 302 | I'd rather use them. | 我宁愿使用它们。 |
| 303 | So the point is you should go in auditions with an abandonment and assume very seriously you're not going to get it. | 所以,重要的是你应该去试镜 与弃置, 并非常严肃地假设 你没有得到它。 |
| 304 | I mean, really, it's that simple. | 我的意思是,真的,这是那么简单。 |
| 305 | And maybe you'll get lucky. | 也许你会得到幸运。 |
| 306 | I feel vindicated. | 我觉得有道理 |
| 307 | That was an excellent question. | 这是一个很好的问题。 |
| 308 | But the person behind looks so upset that I will go to the girl just behind. | 但背后的人看起来很不高兴 所以我会去找后面的女孩 |
| 309 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 310 | Yeah, I finally have my chance. | 是啊,我终于有机会了。 |
| 311 | Ben once said that the best reason to carry a handkerchief is to lend it. | 本曾说过,携带手帕的最佳理由是借出去. |
| 312 | So I will be happy to lend you mine. | 所以我很乐意借给你我的 |
| 313 | But my question is that given the fact that these days most of the artists are being involved in controversies, | 但我的问题是,鉴于这些天 大部分艺术家都在争论 |
| 314 | what is your stance with respect to separating the art from the artist or vice versa? | 你对艺术与艺术家分离的立场是什么? |
| 315 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 316 | Rephrase the question. | 复问言. |
| 317 | Separating the art from the artist. | 把艺术和艺术家分开 |
| 318 | In the sense of? | 从意义上说? |
| 319 | Given that a lot of the people are getting involved in controversies, | 鉴于很多人都在争论 |
| 320 | which we as a society may not look at favorably and they may not be casted in the films later on, | 作为社会,我们可能不看好 他们可能不会被投在 电影后期, |
| 321 | say for example, what is your take on separating the art from the artist? | 比如说,你对艺术和艺术家分开有什么看法? |
| 322 | Because they could be wonderful actors, but pathetic human beings. | 因为他们可以成为优秀的演员 但可悲的人类 |
| 323 | Yeah, there is a separation. | 是啊,这是分居。 |
| 324 | But I think there are things that are going on, especially today in the world, | 但我认为有些事情正在发生, 特别是在今天的世界, |
| 325 | that if you have a voice and you see what's happening, that you have the right to say something about it. | 如果你有声音,你看到发生了什么, 你有权说一些事情。 |
| 326 | You must. | 你必须。 |
| 327 | You have to. | 你必须这样做。 |
| 328 | I mean, look what's happening today. | 我的意思是,看看今天发生了什么。 |
| 329 | You have to say something. | 你得说点什么 |
| 330 | We're in a world that's getting smaller and smaller and we all have to stick together. | 我们正处在一个越来越小的世界,我们都必须团结在一起. |
| 331 | And there are people in the world who I don't understand them. | 而世间有我所不解者. |
| 332 | They think differently. | 他们的想法不同 |
| 333 | They don't think for the world, whether it be climate change, | 他们不会为世界着想 不管是气候变化 |
| 334 | whether it be the political situation, you want to call it that. | 不管是政局,你都这样称呼 |
| 335 | We see what's happening in Ukraine now. | 我们看到乌克兰正在发生的一切。 |
| 336 | You have to stand up and say, we can't do that. | 你得站起来说 我们不能这么做 |
| 337 | It's wrong. | 这是错误的。 |
| 338 | It's that simple. | 就这么简单 |
| 339 | It's not even about democracy. | 这甚至不是关于民主。 |
| 340 | It's about right and wrong, the truth, period. | 这是关于对与错, 真相,时期。 |
| 341 | You should do our publicity for us, Bob. | 你应该为我们做我们的宣传,鲍勃。 |
| 342 | I'm going to go to the side of the room now. | 我现在去房间那边 |
| 343 | I'll just go here. | 我这就走 |
| 344 | If that's okay, it's a microphone. | 如果可以的话,是麦克风 |
| 345 | Bob, a privilege to have you here. | 鲍勃,很荣幸你能来 |
| 346 | But it's a privilege for all of us to be in this room, | 但是,这是我们的荣幸 我们大家在这里, |
| 347 | which for 200 years has been a focus for free speech and democracy. | 这200年来一直是言论自由和民主的重点。 |
| 348 | We all know what's happening in Ukraine right now. | 我们都知道乌克兰正在发生什么。 |
| 349 | What's your comment on that? | 你有什么意见? |
| 350 | And is the United States doing enough? | 美国做得够吗? |
| 351 | Well, that's a good question. | 嗯,这是一个很好的问题。 |
| 352 | You know, everybody says I've been watching the news and some people say, | 大家都说我一直在看新闻 有些人说 |
| 353 | well, you know, they're not doing enough. | 他们做的还不够 |
| 354 | You've got to be the sanctions. | 你必须是制裁。 |
| 355 | I don't know how all that really works. | 我不知道这到底怎么工作的。 |
| 356 | I sort of do, but don't. | 我有点喜欢,但不要 |
| 357 | How much of a bite they have, what teeth they have, | 他们有几口咬牙切齿 |
| 358 | that's really the question because my fear is that this thing will go on and on | 这才是真正的问题 因为我担心这件事情会持续下去 |
| 359 | and people get bored watching it even. | 观众甚至会觉得无聊 |
| 360 | And all of a sudden you've got a country like the Ukraine that has been overtaken. | 突然间,你有一个像乌克兰这样的国家 已经超越。 |
| 361 | And you know it shouldn't be. | 你知道不该这样 |
| 362 | There might have to be a stronger position taken by people. | 人们可能必须采取更强硬的立场。 |
| 363 | And also this is a terrible thing to be aware of, | 这也是一件可怕的事情 要知道, |
| 364 | but we have nuclear weapons that people threaten that they have. | 但我们有核武器,人们威胁着他们拥有的核武器。 |
| 365 | And so if you use those, nobody's going to be around anymore. | 所以如果你使用这些, 没有人会在这里了。 |
| 366 | I can't imagine this world being in that state. | 我无法想象这个世界处于那种状态 |
| 367 | But we have to do something. | 但是我们必须做点什么。 |
| 368 | People, there has to be a way to stop this kind of aggression. | 人民,必须有一个方法制止这种侵略. |
| 369 | You see the fool we had in our country. | 你看我们国家里那个傻瓜 |
| 370 | Who would that be, sorry? | 那会是谁,对不起? |
| 371 | You see, I don't know how gullible people are, | 你看,我不知道 如何容易被骗的人, |
| 372 | but they also have their own interests. | 但他们也有自己的利益。 |
| 373 | So they know he's a fool, but they still go along with it, | 所以他们知道他是个傻瓜 但他们还是同意 |
| 374 | either by fear or they want to use him. | 要么害怕 要么他们想利用他 |
| 375 | I mean, I think if someone like him ever, God forbid, became president again, | 我的意思是,我认为如果有人 像他永远, 上帝禁止,再次成为总统, |
| 376 | we would have the same situation in North America where we don't like what Canada did. | 在北美,我们会有同样的情况 在那里我们不喜欢 加拿大做了什么。 |
| 377 | They did something because he's so, you know, they affronted us in some way. | 他们做了一些事情,因为他是如此,你知道, 他们以某种方式冒犯我们。 |
| 378 | So now we have to find an excuse to go in there. | 所以现在我们得找个借口进去了 |
| 379 | Hard to believe, hard to imagine, but I was just thinking about that this morning. | 难以相信,难以想象, 但我只是考虑 今天上午。 |
| 380 | You know, it's impossible to do. | 你知道,这是不可能做到的。 |
| 381 | You can't do it, but it could happen. | 你不能这么做 但有可能发生 |
| 382 | Or in Mexico, some reason to go down there, which would be nonsense, | 或在墨西哥,一些理由 去那里,这将是无稽之谈, |
| 383 | but we have to be very careful. | 但我们必须非常小心。 |
| 384 | That's why there are rules. | 故有规矩. |
| 385 | That's why we can't allow what is happening in Ukraine with people. | 因此,我们不能允许乌克兰与人民发生的一切。 |
| 386 | And that's why a democracy is the way we must go in order to keep this world sane | 这就是为什么民主是我们必须走的路 才能让这个世界保持正常 |
| 387 | and level-headed and floating, if you will. | 平头和浮,如果你愿意。 |
| 388 | There are more eloquent ways of saying it, but that's my way. | 有更雄辩的方法可以这么说 但这是我的方法 |
| 389 | And up in the rafters, who'd like to ask a question? | 在木筏上,谁想问一个问题? |
| 390 | There are lots. | 还有很多 |
| 391 | Just there, please. | 就在那里,请。 |
| 392 | That's you, yeah. | 这就是你,是的。 |
| 393 | Hi. | 顿 |
| 394 | Thanks so much for being here. | 谢谢你能来 |
| 395 | Yeah, it's such an honour. | 是啊,这是这样一个荣誉。 |
| 396 | You mentioned your love of film, | 你提到你对电影的热爱 |
| 397 | and I was wondering about the kind of films or directors you were watching as you were growing up | 我在想你长大后看什么电影或导演 |
| 398 | that kind of made you fall in love with film. | 那种让你爱上电影。 |
| 399 | I feel like with your collaboration with Scorsese, | 我感觉你和斯科塞斯的合作 |
| 400 | the kind of influence of Italian neorealism is there. | 意大利新现实主义的影响力就在那里 |
| 401 | I wonder, yeah, as a kid, what kind of films you were watching and what made you love film? | 你小时候看什么电影 是什么让你喜欢电影? |
| 402 | Oh, I always talk about, you know, East of Eden, James Dean, | 哦,我总是说,你知道, 伊甸园东部,詹姆斯・迪恩, |
| 403 | A Place in the Sun with Montgomery Clift, | 与蒙哥马利·克利夫特同在太阳中的地方 |
| 404 | The Searchers, John Wayne was in, | 搜索者,约翰韦恩在, |
| 405 | some of the Tennessee Williams or Kazan, | 一些田纳西威廉姆斯或喀山, |
| 406 | On the Waterfront, | 在水边 |
| 407 | 街车名为Desire. | |
| 408 | Those are the films that I watched as a kid. | 那是我小时候看的电影 |
| 409 | Sometimes a little more arty film like Jean Cocteau, | 有时像让·科克托这样的艺术片 |
| 410 | which, what is it? | 这是什么? |
| 411 | The famous Cocteau film, I'm even forgetting the title. | 著名的科克托电影,我甚至忘了标题. |
| 412 | Anyway, my father took me to that one. | 总之,我父亲带我去那家 |
| 413 | But the ones that you normally see in the movie theatres, | 但你通常在电影院看到的那些 |
| 414 | the Lowy's, those are the ones. | 洛维家,就是那些 |
| 415 | The neighbourhood theatres, those are the ones that I was affected by. | 邻里剧院, 那些是我受到影响的剧院。 |
| 416 | And then later on, the films like Saturday Night and Sunday Morning with Albert Finney, | 之后,像"周六晚间"和"周日早间"的电影 与阿尔伯特·芬尼, |
| 417 | of course, 2001, | 当然,2001年, |
| 418 | the one with, oh, there's A Taste of Honey, | 那个有,哦,有 蜂蜜的味道, |
| 419 | when I was a young actor and so on. | 当我还是个年轻的演员等等。 |
| 420 | Those are great. | 真不错 |
| 421 | Fellini, Antonioni, all those Italian directors. | 费利尼,安东尼奥尼,所有这些意大利导演。 |
| 422 | There's other ones, but I'm forgetting. | 还有别的 但我忘了 |
| 423 | I'll try and go to the back on both sides now. | 我会试着去两边的后面 |
| 424 | So I'm going to go right to the very back of the room, | 所以我要直接去房间后面 |
| 425 | just in the corner there. | 就在那个角落 |
| 426 | Kind of on the same note, is there a more modern movie | 同样的,有一部更现代的电影 |
| 427 | that you keep going back to and watching over and over again, | 你总是回去看 一遍又一遍, |
| 428 | something that brings you comfort or joy? | 让你感到安慰或快乐的东西? |
| 429 | What is that? | 这是什么? |
| 430 | So is there a film you keep going back to over and over again | 所以,有一部电影,你一直 回到一遍又一遍 |
| 431 | that brings you comfort or joy, is the question. | 这给你带来舒适或快乐, 是问题。 |
| 432 | A film that you keep going back to, | 一部你继续看的电影 |
| 433 | a modern film that you keep watching over and over again? | 你一遍又一遍地看一部现代电影? |
| 434 | No. | 没有 |
| 435 | No, I wish I could, | 不,我希望我能做到这一点, |
| 436 | because I have friends who watch movies over | 因为我有朋友看电影 |
| 437 | and they watch them and they always find something new and different. | 他们看着他们 他们总是发现一些新的和不同的事物。 |
| 438 | I don't do that, but that's my fault, you know. | 我不这样做,但那是我的错。 |
| 439 | Right at the back on that side, yeah. | 就在那边的后面 |
| 440 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 441 | My name's Monique, and my question is, | 我叫莫妮克 我的问题是 |
| 442 | what is the best piece of advice you've ever received in life, | 你这辈子收到的最好的建议是什么? |
| 443 | not only in relation to acting, but just in general? | 不仅在行动方面,而且在总体上? |
| 444 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 445 | The best piece of advice, | 最好的建议 |
| 446 | I'm sure there's something, but I can't... | 我肯定有什么东西 但我不能... |
| 447 | You have to be very careful. | 你必须非常小心。 |
| 448 | I don't know if I have that answer to the question like that, | 我不知道,如果我有 答案这样的问题, |
| 449 | but I know as I get older you have to be very careful | 但我知道随着我变老 你得非常小心 |
| 450 | about what you're, especially these days, | 关于你是什么, 特别是现在, |
| 451 | with what the truth is, what lies are, | 以真理和谎言盟誓, |
| 452 | what people will believe, even though it's not the truth, | 人们会相信什么 虽然这不是事实 |
| 453 | what they want to believe, though they know it's not the truth. | 他们想要相信什么, 虽然他们知道这不是事实。 |
| 454 | There's so many things that that to me is the most important thing, | 有很多事对我很重要 |
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| 456 | and then what you're going to do about it. | 然后再做你该做的 |
| 457 | Because we're living in a, especially these days, | 因为我们生活在一个, 特别是现在, |
| 458 | I think the most important thing is to follow your instincts, | 我认为最重要的事情 是遵循你的直觉, |
| 459 | what you think, what you have determined is right, | 你们所认为的,和你们所认定的,都是对的, |
| 460 | maybe if it's even uncomfortable, maybe if it's even, you know, | 也许它甚至不舒服, 也许它甚至,你知道, |
| 461 | but you know you have to act upon it. | 但你知道你必须采取行动 |
| 462 | That's the closest I would say that you've got to stick to it. | 那是我最接近的话 你必须坚持下去 |
| 463 | You don't want to find yourself in a situation where you are, | 你不想发现自己 在你的处境, |
| 464 | where a lot of people are now, | 现在很多人都在那里 |
| 465 | where they're going to have to compromise in a way, | 他们不得不以某种方式妥协 |
| 466 | being part of something that they know is wrong. | 成为他们知道错误的一部分。 |
| 467 | Like a lot of the politicians, the Republicans in America, | 像很多政治家,美国共和党, |
| 468 | who privately will admit that this is insanity, | 他将秘密地承认这是疯狂的, |
| 469 | but then they'll go along with it. | 但是他们会同意的 |
| 470 | What are you going to go along with? | 你要跟谁走? |
| 471 | What are your grandkids going to read about? | 你的孙子们要读什么? |
| 472 | That you did nothing? | 你什么都没做? |
| 473 | If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. | 如果你不是解决方案的一部分,你就是问题的一部分。 |
| 474 | And those people have a responsibility. | 那些人有责任 |
| 475 | They represent us. | 他们代表我们。 |
| 476 | Look what they're doing. | 看看他们在做什么。 |
| 477 | Scary. | 吓人 |
| 478 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 479 | Hi, Mr. De Niro. | 嗨,德尼罗先生 |
| 480 | Thank you very much for being here. | 非常感谢你能来 |
| 481 | I'm a massive fan. | 我是一个巨大的粉丝。 |
| 482 | You spoke before about your relationship with Scorsese, | 你之前说过你和斯科塞斯的关系 |
| 483 | but you've also had a very good relationship with other actors. | 但你与其他演员的关系也很好 |
| 484 | For example, my favorite is probably you and Al Pacino. | 比如说,我最喜欢你和Al Pacino |
| 485 | I just wondered, what is it about an actor | 我只是在想,演员是怎么回事? |
| 486 | that makes you want to collaborate with them | 这让你想和他们合作 |
| 487 | and what makes that collaboration successful? | 是什么使得合作成功? |
| 488 | It's just, who knows if it's successful. | 这只是,谁知道它是否成功。 |
| 489 | You know you want to do it. | 你知道你想这样做。 |
| 490 | And in the case of The Irishman, | 至于爱尔兰人 |
| 491 | it was a project that Marty and I were working on another movie. | 我和马蒂在拍另一部电影 |
| 492 | And then I always meant to read the book I Heard You Paint Houses | 然后我一直想读《我听说你画房子》 |
| 493 | as research for this. | 作为这方面的研究。 |
| 494 | And when I finally did read it, a couple of years after it came out, | 当我终于读了它, 几年后它出来, |
| 495 | I realized that I said, Marty, you have to read this book | 我意识到 我说,马蒂,你必须读这本书 |
| 496 | because it has a lot more in relation to what we would want to do. | 因为它与我们想要做的事情的关系更大。 |
| 497 | And so we had to change it. | 所以我们不得不改变它。 |
| 498 | And then we went about trying to do this movie, | 然后我们开始尝试 做这部电影, |
| 499 | which is very difficult because we were going to do it with Paramount, | 这很困难 因为我们要和派拉蒙合作 |
| 500 | but they said, you signed on for this. | 但他们说,你签了这个。 |
| 501 | They greenlit the movie. | 他们把电影弄绿了 |
| 502 | And so now we're doing that. | 所以现在我们这样做。 |
| 503 | And it was a whole thing. | 这是整个事情。 |
| 504 | Whether it would be, in this case, | 如果是这样的话 |
| 505 | talking to Marty about Al Pacino playing Jimmy Hoffa, | 跟马蒂说阿尔·帕西诺扮演吉米·霍法 |
| 506 | Joe Pesci playing Russell Bufalino, and that's it. | 乔·佩西饰演罗素·布法利诺,就这样. |
| 507 | I knew that they'd be great in the movie. | 我知道他们在电影里会很棒 |
| 508 | And Marty did, and we just, you know, | 而马蒂做到了, 我们只是,你知道, |
| 509 | I don't know if that's fully answering your question, | 我不知道这是否完全回答了你的问题, |
| 510 | but I don't know if you want to ask me something else about it. | 但我不知道你是否还想问点别的 |
| 511 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 512 | Could you talk about how you mentally and physically prepare for acting roles? | 你能谈谈你是如何在心理和生理上 准备演戏的吗? |
| 513 | Do you hear that? | 你听到了吗? |
| 514 | How do you prepare mentally and physically for acting roles? | 你如何在心理和身体上为扮演角色做好准备? |
| 515 | For acting roles for roles? | 对于角色的演技角色? |
| 516 | Well, it depends. | 嗯,这取决于。 |
| 517 | Everything is different. | 一切众生不同. |
| 518 | I was just thinking about a movie I did here many years ago. | 我只是在想几年前我在这里拍的电影 |
| 519 | I don't know if anybody saw it even, | 我不知道有没有人看到它甚至, |
| 520 | with Kenneth Branagh directed it called Frankenstein. | 肯尼斯·布拉纳执导了它 叫做弗兰肯斯坦。 |
| 521 | And I did a lot of preparation and a lot of work for the, | 我做了很多准备 和很多工作为, |
| 522 | whatever you want to call it, the monster or whatever. | 无论你想叫它什么 怪物什么的 |
| 523 | I had these, the walk was a certain way. | 我有这些,走是一定的方式。 |
| 524 | I wanted to create something sized too. | 我也想创造一些大小的东西 |
| 525 | So in those days, they used to have these kind of like plastic things. | 在那些时候,他们曾经有类似塑料的东西。 |
| 526 | They were like half a, I don't know what you call them, concave type thing. | 他们就像半个, 我不知道你怎么称呼他们, 孔洞类型的事情。 |
| 527 | And when you'd walk on them, they'd bounce like this. | 当你走在他们身上的时候 他们会像这样跳起来 |
| 528 | So you'd step on them and you'd walk and they'd give you height. | 所以你会踩到它们 然后走着它们会给你高度 |
| 529 | And they were like some gimmick for exercises or something at that time. | 那时候他们就像一些做运动的蠢货 |
| 530 | And I said, let me get those, put them, you know, | 我说,让我得到这些, 把它们,你知道, |
| 531 | get those things and start walking and using those, stuff like that. | 拿上那些东西 开始走动 使用这些东西 |
| 532 | I did a movie called Flawless and he was, I was supposed to be, | 我拍了一部叫Flawless的电影 他,我应该, |
| 533 | I had a stroke. | 我中风了 |
| 534 | So I found ways of hanging weights on my left arm so that I couldn't, | 所以我找到了在左臂上挂重量的方法 这样我就不能 |
| 535 | it would be more immobilized and anything to physically change me | 它会更无动于衷 任何改变我的身体的东西 |
| 536 | without my having to make it happen, without that actual impediment, | 我不得不做到这一点, 没有实际障碍, |
| 537 | things like that. | 类似的东西。 |
| 538 | It could be anything, any kind of thing to pull me out of myself | 什么都可能 任何能把我拉出来的东西 |
| 539 | and into that character the way I thought and the director thought it would be. | 进入我想象的和导演想的那样的性格 |
| 540 | Did you have to do any water polo training for Meet the Fuckers? | 你非得为"遇见混蛋"练水球吗? |
| 541 | Meet the Parents, is it? | 见父母,是么? |
| 542 | I can't remember which one it is. | 我不记得是哪个了 |
| 543 | Meet the Parents. | 见父母. |
| 544 | Any training for that, for the water polo? | 练过水球吗? |
| 545 | You're very good. | 你很厉害 |
| 546 | Not training, I don't know if you... | 不是训练,我不知道你... |
| 547 | I spoke to some people at the CIA and all the friends who were telling, | 我和CIA的一些人和所有的朋友谈过了 |
| 548 | you know, about this, certain things that we used. | 你知道,关于这个, 一些东西,我们用。 |
| 549 | You're a natural. | 尔时天子. |
| 550 | Whatever, I mean... | 不管怎么样 我是说... |
| 551 | There are things, there are some things I've forgotten about. | 有些事,有些事我忘记了 |
| 552 | I've forgotten what I've done. | 已忘所为. |
| 553 | That's it. | 就这样 |
| 554 | Which movie do you miss filming the most? | 你最想念哪部电影? |
| 555 | Did I miss? | 我错过了吗? |
| 556 | Yeah, just being on the set of or... | 是啊,只是 在一个集或. |
| 557 | I had a good time on the Irish with Marty. | 我和马蒂在爱尔兰玩得很开心 |
| 558 | We always have a good kind of easy way we get there. | 我们总是有 一种很好的简单的方式,我们到达那里。 |
| 559 | I had a very good time on that film. | 那部电影我玩得很开心 |
| 560 | And I had a good time on About My Father, too. | 我对我父亲也很开心 |
| 561 | A tighter schedule, more immediate, if you will, as far as getting things. | 更紧的日程,更迅速,如果你愿意的话, 远到得到的东西。 |
| 562 | But it was all good. | 不过一切都很好 |
| 563 | It's all good. | 皆为善根. |
| 564 | And also Killers of the Flower Moon. | 还有花月杀手 |
| 565 | But even more the Irishman. | 更像是爱尔兰人 |
| 566 | Do you feel like you're getting better at what you do? | 你觉得自己做得更好吗? |
| 567 | And if yes, how do you do that? | 如果有,你怎么办到的? |
| 568 | What was the last part of the question? | 问题的最后部分是什么? |
| 569 | Do you think you're still getting better at what you do? | 你觉得你的工作还好点吗? |
| 570 | And if you are, how do you do that? | 如果你是的话 你怎么做到的? |
| 571 | That's a good question. | 问曰. |
| 572 | I think you get more confident as you're older | 我想你长大后会更加自信 |
| 573 | and you realise certain things are not necessary to get from A to B to C. | 你意识到某些事情是不必要的 从A到B到C。 |
| 574 | And so you cannot waste as much energy on that. | 所以,你不能浪费 那么多的精力。 |
| 575 | And the most important thing is to be relaxed and never anticipate things. | 最重要的是要放松 永远不要预料到事情 |
| 576 | Just let them happen. | 只要让他们发生。 |
| 577 | Like certain scenes or emotional scenes. | 比如某些场景或情感场景. |
| 578 | I don't think about it. | 不思议故. |
| 579 | You know, it's the old joke of... | 你知道,这是老笑话... |
| 580 | You all know this joke, I'm sure. | 你们都知道这个笑话,我敢肯定。 |
| 581 | Hark, I hear the cannon roar. | 哈克,我听到大炮的咆哮声 |
| 582 | You don't know this joke? | 你不知道这个笑话吗? |
| 583 | This actor can't remember his lines. | 这个演员不记得他的台词了. |
| 584 | People don't work with him anymore. | 人们不再和他合作了 |
| 585 | But he runs into an old friend of his as a director. | 但他遇到了一个老朋友 作为导演。 |
| 586 | He says, look, I'm doing a certain... | 他说,你看,我正在做一个... |
| 587 | I'm doing a play. | 我在演戏 |
| 588 | And it's a Shakespearean play, three acts. | 这是一部莎士比亚剧,三部曲 |
| 589 | And all you have to say is, Hark, I hear the cannon roar. | 你只需要说,哈克,我听到大炮的咆哮声 |
| 590 | And he said, I don't know, I'm afraid. | 他说,我不知道,我害怕。 |
| 591 | I can't, my lines, I get nervous. | 我不能,我的台词,我紧张。 |
| 592 | I said, don't worry, you're going to do it. | 我说,别担心,你会做的。 |
| 593 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 594 | In the third act, all you do is you run out at the beginning. | 在第三幕中,你所做的只是你从一开始就跑掉了. |
| 595 | You hear the explosion. | 你听到爆炸声了 |
| 596 | You run out and say, Hark, I hear the cannons roar. | 你跑出去说,哈克,我听到大炮在咆哮 |
| 597 | Cannon roar, so okay. | 炮声,所以没关系。 |
| 598 | So he does, he rehearses, he rehearses. | 所以他这样做,他排练,他排练。 |
| 599 | He has it in his dressing room. | 他的更衣室里有这个 |
| 600 | He has Hark, I hear the cannon roar. | 他有哈克,我听到大炮咆哮声 |
| 601 | Hark, I hear the cannon roar. | 哈克,我听到大炮的咆哮声 |
| 602 | He has all the different ways it could be said. | 他有不同的说法 |
| 603 | And so finally the day, the big day, the opening night, | 最后是白天,大日子,开幕之夜 |
| 604 | he comes in, first act, okay, second act, third act. | 他来了,第一幕,好,第二幕,第三幕。 |
| 605 | Gets ready, stays ready, says, get ready, okay. | 准备好,保持准备,说,准备好,好。 |
| 606 | After the intermission, all of a sudden, | 间歇之后,突然间, |
| 607 | he's waiting in the wings all of a sudden. | 他突然在翅膀里等着呢 |
| 608 | It's time for him to run out. | 时他奔走. |
| 609 | He hears his cue. | 他听到他的提示。 |
| 610 | He runs out onto the stage, boom. | 他跑出舞台,轰轰烈烈。 |
| 611 | Turns around and says, what the fuck was that? | 转过身来说,什么他妈的是什么? |
| 612 | Don't overthink it. | 别太想了 |
| 613 | I'll go back to this side, I think. | 我想,我会回到这边。 |
| 614 | Just here. | 就在这里。 |
| 615 | The gentleman I met in the foyer earlier. | 我之前在大厅遇到的那位先生 |
| 616 | Thank you so much for coming today. | 谢谢你今天能来 |
| 617 | You've had so many iconic quotes throughout your career. | 你在整个职业生涯中 都引用过这么多标志性的话 |
| 618 | I was just wondering if you had a line that stayed with you | 我只是想知道你是否有一条线 留在你身边 |
| 619 | or a favourite line from any of your films. | 或你电影里最喜欢的台词 |
| 620 | What was that? | 你说什么? |
| 621 | You've had so many iconic quotes in your films | 在你的电影里,你引用了很多标志性的话 |
| 622 | that people quote you on. | 人们引用你的话 |
| 623 | I was just wondering if you had a favourite line | 我只是想知道你有没有最喜欢的台词 |
| 624 | from any of your films. | 从你的任何电影。 |
| 625 | What? | 你说什么? |
| 626 | A favourite line, a favourite quote | 最爱的一行,最爱的引文 |
| 627 | from any of your films that you've made. | 你拍过的任何一部电影 |
| 628 | No, I... | 没有,我... |
| 629 | You know, some people say the ones you know to me sometimes. | 你知道,有些人说 你认识的人有时对我。 |
| 630 | Well, they say, say it to me. | 嗯,他们说,告诉我。 |
| 631 | I say, no, I don't know. | 我说,不,我不知道。 |
| 632 | No. | 没有 |
| 633 | Once a person said to me, said to me, are you talking to me? | 有一次有人对我说 对我说 你在跟我说话吗? |
| 634 | And I said, you're the only one here. | 我说 这里只有你一个人 |
| 635 | No, I just said it. | 不,我只是说。 |
| 636 | When you're not acting, producing or directing, | 当你不表演, 制作或指挥, |
| 637 | what do you enjoy doing? | 你喜欢做什么? |
| 638 | Well, the last couple of years I've been, you know, | 嗯,过去的几年,我一直,你知道, |
| 639 | I have my kids and my personal life and all that. | 我有我的孩子和我的私生活 这一切。 |
| 640 | It really takes a lot of my time, obviously. | 显然这需要我很多时间 |
| 641 | But I've been watching a lot of television | 但我看了很多电视 |
| 642 | instead of watching old movies, | 而不是看老电影 |
| 643 | or even current things that I should be watching. | 甚至是我应该看的东西 |
| 644 | I've been watching a lot of the news, a lot of what's happening, | 我一直在看很多新闻, 很多正在发生的事情, |
| 645 | especially when Trump was president. | 特别是特朗普当总统的时候 |
| 646 | You know, what insanity we're living in. | 你知道,我们生活在什么疯狂中。 |
| 647 | So that's how I spend... | 所以我就这样花... |
| 648 | There's, I don't know, some personal friends, us and my kids. | 有,我不知道, 一些个人朋友,我们和我的孩子。 |
| 649 | Were you in New York during the pandemic? | 流行期间你在纽约吗? |
| 650 | Yeah, New York and outside the city. | 是啊,纽约和城外。 |
| 651 | Um... | 那个... |
| 652 | Hi, you said earlier about going to auditions | 嗨,你刚才说要去试镜 |
| 653 | and hopefully getting lucky. | 希望能走运 |
| 654 | And I wondered what you think was your lucky break | 我想知道你觉得你运气好 |
| 655 | and how much of acting is based on luck | 以及多少行为是基于运气 |
| 656 | as well as hard work and obviously talent. | 以及辛勤工作和明显的天赋。 |
| 657 | Yeah, I mean, to be in the right place at the right time helps. | 是啊,我的意思是,在合适的地方 在合适的时间帮助。 |
| 658 | You know, if you're there and they're casting a certain thing | 你知道,如果你在那里 他们正在铸造某种东西 |
| 659 | and you're... | 而你却... |
| 660 | you happen to be there and write for it, | 你碰巧在那里 并为它写作, |
| 661 | that takes some luck. | 这需要一些运气。 |
| 662 | But the thing that happens, I think, with actors, | 但发生的事情,我想,与演员, |
| 663 | what you hear about is that... | 你听说的是... |
| 664 | Say there's an actor who... | 说有个演员... |
| 665 | That's why I was saying don't be afraid to take a chance | 所以我才说不要害怕冒险 |
| 666 | when you go for readings, | 当你去阅读, |
| 667 | because you might not get this part, | 因为你可能得不到这个角色, |
| 668 | most likely you won't get it, | 很可能你不会得到它, |
| 669 | but you'll get recognised and people, | 但你会得到承认和人们, |
| 670 | and eventually people will talk about you | 最终人们会谈论你 |
| 671 | and say that's an interesting actor, they do this, | 并说这是一个有趣的演员, 他们这样做, |
| 672 | so they'll want to see more of you. | 所以他们会想看到你更多。 |
| 673 | And that's the... | 这是... |
| 674 | And that you work hard, you keep your, you know... | 你努力工作,保持你的,你知道的... |
| 675 | You keep on it. | 你继续 |
| 676 | And that's... | 这... |
| 677 | That's what I would say. | 我会这么说的 |
| 678 | That make sense? | 有道理吗? |
| 679 | Hi, you've spoken quite movingly about the dangers | 嗨,你已经说得很动人 关于危险 |
| 680 | of people not thinking or being unthinking, | 或妄想或妄想的人, |
| 681 | and some of the roles that we've discussed today, | 以及我们今天讨论过的一些角色, |
| 682 | like the Irishman or taxi driver, | 像爱尔兰人或出租车司机, |
| 683 | you really evocatively portray these people | 你真能挑逗这些人 |
| 684 | who struggle to articulate their thoughts | 他们为表达自己的思想而奋斗 |
| 685 | or why they do things. | 或者为什么他们做事情。 |
| 686 | I just wondered what appealed to you | 我只是想知道什么吸引你 |
| 687 | about those kinds of roles. | 关于这些类型的角色。 |
| 688 | Well, I... | 这个,我... |
| 689 | They're more... | 他们更... |
| 690 | More interesting in a way, | 更有趣的是,从某种意义上说, |
| 691 | because you see they're not, you know, | 因为你看到他们不是,你知道, |
| 692 | they're not more complex, I could say that. | 我可以说,他们并不复杂 |
| 693 | I mean, everybody who read Taxi Driver, | 我的意思是,所有读出租车司机的人, |
| 694 | me, Marty, Paul wrote it, Paul Schrader, | 我,马蒂,保罗写的,保罗・施拉德, |
| 695 | but Michael and Julia Phillips, they were... | 但迈克尔和茱莉亚·菲利普斯 他们... |
| 696 | Everybody was taken by the script, I remember, | 每个人都被剧本带走了 我记得 |
| 697 | when we... | 当我们... |
| 698 | We were all going to do it, | 我们都打算这样做, |
| 699 | and it was a script we all couldn't wait to do. | 这是一部我们都迫不及待的剧本 |
| 700 | And it's interesting, even in that, | 这很有趣 即使如此 |
| 701 | you could identify with the Travis character, | 你可以认同特拉维斯的角色 |
| 702 | the alienation, | 疏远, |
| 703 | and I'm from New York, born and raised in a village, | 我来自纽约, 出生和长大在一个村庄, |
| 704 | I could identify with the alienation. | 我可以认同异性恋 |
| 705 | So it's just something about that story, | 所以只是关于那个故事 |
| 706 | that script that Paul wrote, Paul Schrader, | 保罗写的剧本 保罗·施拉德 |
| 707 | we wanted to do. | 我们想这样做。 |
| 708 | I don't know if that's really answering your question, | 我不知道这是否真的回答了你的问题, |
| 709 | but it's... | 但这是... |
| 710 | I'm going to ask a quick question. | 我要问个问题 |
| 711 | Talking about roles you've taken on, | 谈论你的角色, |
| 712 | I suppose another defining feature is the Italian-American link | 我想另一个决定性的特征是意大利和美国的联系 |
| 713 | in a lot of the films you've done, | 在很多电影中你做了, |
| 714 | and you're from New York, | 你来自纽约 |
| 715 | strong Italian-American culture in New York, | 纽约强大的意大利裔美国人文化 |
| 716 | and it was interesting listening to you talk about | 听到你说的很有趣 |
| 717 | the research you did before The Irishman, | 在爱尔兰人之前你所做的研究 |
| 718 | into the Mafia and things like that. | 加入黑手党之类的 |
| 719 | So have you become a bit of a sort of amateur expert, | 你变成业余专家了吗? |
| 720 | I don't know if that's not a contradictions in term, | 我不知道,如果这不是一个矛盾的术语, |
| 721 | about Italian-American culture, | 关于意大利裔美国人的文化, |
| 722 | Mafia culture, those sorts of things? | 黑手党文化 那种东西? |
| 723 | Have you become sort of a bit of an expert on those subjects? | 你成为了这些话题的专家吗? |
| 724 | Yes. | 对 |
| 725 | When did that start? | 什么时候开始的? |
| 726 | Well, when I was a kid, | 嗯,当我还是个孩子的时候, |
| 727 | I spent a lot of time in Italian-American neighbourhoods | 我在意大利裔美国人社区待过很久 |
| 728 | that Scorsese was from, | 斯科塞斯从, |
| 729 | and so it was interesting | 所以这很有趣 |
| 730 | because he and I weren't in the same crew, if you will. | 因为他和我不在同一组人 如果你愿意的话 |
| 731 | We stood at, as you say, in different blocks, different areas, | 正如你说的 我们站在不同的街区 不同的区域 |
| 732 | but we had some mutual friends that go between the groups, | 但是我们有一些朋友 在团体之间, |
| 733 | and they tell us what they're doing, | 他们告诉我们他们在做什么, |
| 734 | back and forth, and that was it. | 前后,就是这样。 |
| 735 | So I had that experience. | 所以我有这种经历。 |
| 736 | And I don't think it really has... | 我不认为它真的有... |
| 737 | It might have some connection to why Marty and I work together so much, | 可能和Marty和我合作的原因有关 |
| 738 | but it's like... | 但是这就像... |
| 739 | I don't really... | 我没有... |
| 740 | Part of it is, | 这部分是, |
| 741 | but most of it, or at least 50% or 60%, | 但大部分,或至少50%或60%, |
| 742 | 40% maybe, is other stuff, | 也许40%是其它东西 |
| 743 | our own coming together and what we want to do, | 我们自己走到一起 我们想做什么 |
| 744 | because he was more religious in a way, | 因为他在某种意义上更虔诚 |
| 745 | and almost became a priest. | 差点成为牧师 |
| 746 | My own life was not that way, | 我的生活不是这样的 |
| 747 | but we came together creatively. | 但我们创造性地走到一起 |
| 748 | We always just had a way. | 我们总是有办法的 |
| 749 | We have long talks about stuff. | 我们聊了很多事情 |
| 750 | Like if I was... | 就像,如果我是... |
| 751 | If there was a scene that we were about to work on, | 如果有一个场景,我们即将工作, |
| 752 | I'd say, well, this reminds me of something I went through. | 这让我想起我经历过的事 |
| 753 | It's not the same, but there's some parallels there. | 虽然不同,但那里有一些平行之处. |
| 754 | We could use that to kind of... | 我们可以用它来... |
| 755 | For this scene, this particular incident, this particular moment. | 对于这个场景,这个特殊的事件,这个特殊的时刻. |
| 756 | So in that way, we had... | 所以那样的话,我们... |
| 757 | I remember having a lot of very good conversations with him. | 我记得和他有过很多很好的对话 |
| 758 | But like, you know, Godfather, Casino, | 但是,你知道,教父,赌场, |
| 759 | Goffela's Irishman, | 戈菲拉的爱尔兰人 |
| 760 | is the reason that you picked those roles | 是你选这些角色的原因 |
| 761 | because of the Italian-American connection, | 由于意大利裔美国人的联系, |
| 762 | is that why you did them? | 所以你才这么做? |
| 763 | Yeah, I mean, I liked them, and they happened to be... | 是啊,我的意思是,我喜欢他们, 他们碰巧是... |
| 764 | I guess it's... | 我想这是... |
| 765 | They are, but if they're written well, | 是的,但是如果写得很好 |
| 766 | if they're done well... | 如果他们做得很好... |
| 767 | By being done well, I mean written well, created well, | 通过做得很好,我的意思是写得很好,创造得很好, |
| 768 | I'd say, yeah, I like to do them, | 我想说,是的,我想做他们, |
| 769 | and I understand what that is, so I'd like to... | 我知道这是什么 所以我想... |
| 770 | Because the second Godfather you do | 因为第二个教父你做 |
| 771 | almost entirely in Italian, isn't it? | 几乎全用意大利语,不是吗? |
| 772 | It's Sicilian. | 西西里语. |
| 773 | Yeah, it's Sicilian. | 是的,这是西西里。 |
| 774 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 775 | My question is, do you feel like the film industry | 我的问题是,你觉得 像电影业 |
| 776 | has developed in a way where it's more focused | 发展得更有重点 |
| 777 | on sort of special effects spectacle | 特效场景 |
| 778 | rather than character-driven plot? | 而不是角色驱动的情节? |
| 779 | And if yes, is that a problem? | 如果是,那有问题吗? |
| 780 | You're talking about the big sort of... Yeah. | 你说的是... 对 |
| 781 | No, I think I have not had much experience in those movies. | 不,我认为我没有多少 经验在这些电影。 |
| 782 | So I don't... | 所以我没有... |
| 783 | There's always a way to get character | 总是有办法获得性格 |
| 784 | or get, you know, things that are... | 或者得到,你知道,的东西是... |
| 785 | Which the actors who work in them do, | 那些在他们中工作的演员 |
| 786 | from what I've seen. | 从我所看到的。 |
| 787 | Can I answer the question? | 我能回答这个问题吗? |
| 788 | You sure? | 你确定吗? |
| 789 | The woman in the glasses, yeah. | 那个戴眼镜的女人,是的。 |
| 790 | Thanks. | 谢谢 |
| 791 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 792 | You're a great source of inspiration | 你是灵感的源泉 |
| 793 | to a lot of young creatives like myself. | 给很多年轻的创造力 像我这样的。 |
| 794 | I was just wondering what you think | 我只是在想你觉得 |
| 795 | the future of the film industry looks like, | 电影业的未来看起来 |
| 796 | and if there'll be a growing obligation to... | 如果有越来越多的义务... |
| 797 | For directors to be providing social commentaries | 董事提供社会评论 |
| 798 | and stuff like that. | 和类似的东西。 |
| 799 | What was the last part of the question? | 问题的最后部分是什么? |
| 800 | If there's a greater obligation for directors | 如果董事有更大的责任 |
| 801 | to be providing social commentaries or critiques. | 提供社会评论或批评。 |
| 802 | You mean of the movies that they made? | 你是说他们拍的电影? |
| 803 | Of the general world and, like, the political happenings. | 整个世界 和一样,政治发生。 |
| 804 | I'm just not sure exactly... | 我只是不确切地说... |
| 805 | So is there an obligation on filmmakers today | 电影制片人今天也有义务 |
| 806 | to say something about politics and society? | 说些关于政治和社会的事? |
| 807 | No, there's no obligation. | 不,没有义务。 |
| 808 | Maybe you say it through your work in some way | 也许你通过你的工作来表达 |
| 809 | if you're more of the writer, I guess, | 如果你更喜欢写作,我想 |
| 810 | and the actor, director, of course. | 当然还有演员 导演 |
| 811 | No, there's no obligation. | 不,没有义务。 |
| 812 | I say stuff because I am so... | 我说话是因为我太... |
| 813 | I don't really like to get involved in that stuff, | 我不太喜欢参与其中 |
| 814 | but I see that it's such a crazy state of affairs | 但我觉得这太疯狂了 |
| 815 | that you have to say something. | 你得说点什么 |
| 816 | It's crazy. | 太疯狂了 |
| 817 | It's sort of connected to one of the questions | 有点和问题有关 |
| 818 | we had earlier about separating the art from the artist, | 我们之前曾说过 要把艺术和艺术家分开 |
| 819 | I suppose. | 我想是这样吧 |
| 820 | Do you think it's more difficult for actors and directors | 你觉得演员和导演比较难吗? |
| 821 | to not comment on what's going on in the world, | 不要对世界发生的事发表评论, |
| 822 | and is that a bad thing? | 这是坏事吗? |
| 823 | In the past, we wouldn't have had criticisms | 过去我们不会有批评 |
| 824 | about people not saying something about something | 关于人们不说话的东西 |
| 825 | in political, social circles. | 在政治,社会圈子里。 |
| 826 | They're just making a film. | 他们只是在拍电影 |
| 827 | Yes. | 对 |
| 828 | I think... | 我觉得... |
| 829 | Say that again, because I'm trying to... | 再说一遍,因为我想... |
| 830 | I mean, some people will make comments politically | 我的意思是,有些人会发表政治评论 |
| 831 | about stuff or others won't, and that's their right. | 关于东西或别人不会, 这是他们的权利。 |
| 832 | I mean, it's just what you feel and what you see before you, | 我的意思是,这只是什么 你的感觉和看到你之前, |
| 833 | and if you have a platform, if you will, | 如果你有一个平台,如果你愿意, |
| 834 | and you think it'll make a difference, it could, | 你认为这会有所作为, 它可能, |
| 835 | then you say something. | 然后你说些什么。 |
| 836 | That's what I feel. | 亦如是觉. |
| 837 | Nobody's obligated to do it. | 没人有义务这么做 |
| 838 | Yeah, and I suppose just one last question on that. | 是啊,我想只有最后一个问题。 |
| 839 | Is it important that we preserve a space | 保持空间很重要吗? |
| 840 | where artists in film cannot do that if they don't want to, | 电影中的艺术家们如果不愿意 就不能这么做 |
| 841 | if they just want to be an actor? | 如果他们只想当演员呢? |
| 842 | That's their right. | 这是他们的权利。 |
| 843 | They could be the best actor, the greatest of all time. | 他们可能是最好的演员 有史以来最伟大的 |
| 844 | They don't have to say anything. | 他们什么都不用说 |
| 845 | I hope that answers the question. | 我希望这能回答问题。 |
| 846 | I mean, I do think people have to say stuff, though, | 我的意思是,我确实认为 人们必须说的东西,虽然, |
| 847 | at the same time. | 同时。 |
| 848 | We're getting to a point... | 我们说到一点... |
| 849 | Sorry? | 你说什么? |
| 850 | Exactly, yeah. | 没错 |
| 851 | You have to say something. | 你得说点什么 |
| 852 | Nobody expects you to. | 没人指望你 |
| 853 | But, you know, it's like... | 但是,你知道,这就像... |
| 854 | Lenny Riefenstahl是一位伟大的导演, | |
| 855 | so it did a great thing, but she worked for... | 所以,它做了一件伟大的事情, 但她为... |
| 856 | And that's a stigma that she had. | 这是她的耻辱 |
| 857 | Period. | 期间。 |
| 858 | Sorry. | 对不起 |
| 859 | Walk away. | 走开 |
| 860 | Do something. | 做点什么吧 |
| 861 | Don't be part of the problem. | 别惹麻烦 |
| 862 | Be the solution. | 成为解决方案。 |
| 863 | Because if you're not the solution, you're the problem, | 因为如果你不是解决方案,你就是问题所在 |
| 864 | and that's a classic example of it. | 这是典型的例子 |
| 865 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 866 | I was just wondering, as we mentioned all afternoon, | 我只是想知道, 正如我们提到整个下午, |
| 867 | you've been involved in some incredible, iconic roles | 你一直参与一些不可思议的,标志性的角色 |
| 868 | through the movies. | 通过电影。 |
| 869 | Some of them, you know, stand the test of time | 有些人,你知道,接受时间的考验 |
| 870 | and will be there forever. | 将永远在那里。 |
| 871 | But was there any role that you would have loved to play, | 但如果你愿意扮演任何角色的话 |
| 872 | excuse me, but you, logistically or time-wise, | 对不起,但你, 后勤或时间, |
| 873 | didn't have the opportunity to do it? | 没有机会做吗? |
| 874 | I don't want to say regret, but you would have thought, | 我不想说后悔 但你会想 |
| 875 | actually, I would have quite liked to play that role. | 事实上,我本来很想扮演这个角色的 |
| 876 | I wasn't sure what... | 我不知道这是... |
| 877 | Any role that you couldn't play, for whatever reason, | 任何你无法扮演的角色, 无论什么原因, |
| 878 | logistical or you're doing other projects | 后勤或你做其他项目 |
| 879 | that you really wish you could have done in hindsight? | 你真的希望你能做 在事后观察? |
| 880 | No, I've been OK, pretty lucky with everything. | 不,我一直没事, 相当幸运的一切。 |
| 881 | I have. | 没错 |
| 882 | There were a couple I wish I had done, | 有对夫妇,我希望我已经做了, |
| 883 | but I'm not losing sleep over it. | 但我不会因此失眠 |
| 884 | I just... | и琌... |
| 885 | It was unfortunate that I couldn't at the time, | 很不幸我当时不能 |
| 886 | but there wasn't something that would have been | 但是没有什么事情会是 |
| 887 | the end all in pure, because if it was, | 结局都是纯洁的, 因为如果它是, |
| 888 | I would have found a way to do it. | 我会想办法的 |
| 889 | I like to think. | 我喜欢思考。 |
| 890 | Thank you for being here with us today, Mr. Dean. | 谢谢你今天和我们在一起 Dean先生 |
| 891 | You're a big fan. | 你是一个大粉丝。 |
| 892 | So I was actually recently watching one of your movies, | 所以,实际上我最近看 你的一部电影, |
| 893 | Silver Linings Playbook, | 银丽宁斯游戏本 |
| 894 | and towards the end of the movie, | 在电影即将结束时, |
| 895 | you tell Bradley Cooper's character | 你告诉布拉德利·库珀的性格 |
| 896 | that there are moments in life | 生命的瞬间 |
| 897 | where life reaches out, | 在那里,生命伸展出来, |
| 898 | and if you don't reach out, | 如果你不伸出手来 |
| 899 | reach back out, it's a sin. | 伸手出来,这是罪恶。 |
| 900 | So were there any moments in your life | 你生命中的任何时刻 |
| 901 | where that happened, | 在那里发生, |
| 902 | where you felt life reaching out, | 在那里,你感觉生活伸展, |
| 903 | and you might have had reservation, | 你也许有预定, |
| 904 | but you felt you had to reach back out to life? | 但你觉得你必须恢复生活? |
| 905 | I guess, but I... | 我想,但是我... ... . . . |
| 906 | I either can't remember them | 我也不记得了 |
| 907 | or I don't want to remember them, | 或者我不想记住他们 |
| 908 | but there's always something, I guess. | 但总有东西,我想。 |
| 909 | I always like to think that I did my best, | 我一直认为我尽力了 |
| 910 | you know, but everybody likes to think | 你知道,但每个人都喜欢思考 |
| 911 | they did their best, I guess. | 我猜他们尽力了 |
| 912 | Hello. | 哈罗 |
| 913 | Thank you for coming today. | 谢谢你今天能来 |
| 914 | I was just wondering, | 我只是想问, |
| 915 | you've done a lot in your career | 你事业中做了不少事 |
| 916 | and a lot in your life, | 和很多在你的生活中, |
| 917 | and I was wondering if, for you personally, | 我在想,对于你个人来说, |
| 918 | what's your greatest achievement, | 什么是你最大的成就, |
| 919 | or professionally? | 还是专业的? |
| 920 | Well, you know, on a personal level, | 就个人而言, |
| 921 | my children, | 我的孩子们, |
| 922 | on a professional level, | 在专业一级, |
| 923 | the movies that I got a good amount | 我有很多电影 |
| 924 | of recognition for, | 承认 |
| 925 | and I'd like to think for the right reasons, | 我想想,出于正确的原因, |
| 926 | you know, I guess that's it. | 我想就是这样 |
| 927 | You know, I have a couple of projects coming up | 你知道,我有几个项目要办 |
| 928 | that I really look for, | 我真正寻找的是 |
| 929 | I'm looking forward to doing, | 我期待着这样做, |
| 930 | and they're going to be special. | 它们会很特别 |
| 931 | Also, I'm thinking that I'm getting older, you know, | 而且,我想,我越来越老,你知道, |
| 932 | and that's what The Irishman, too, is about. | 爱尔兰人也是这样 |
| 933 | So those are things, you know, | 这些是东西,你知道的, |
| 934 | you're always aware of time. | 你总是知道时间。 |
| 935 | So... | 所以说... |
| 936 | But I always like to think | 但我总是喜欢想 |
| 937 | that not all my movies, | 那不是我所有的电影, |
| 938 | but some of them | 但其中一些人 |
| 939 | have been, will be recognized | 已经,将得到承认 |
| 940 | for being very special. | 非常特别 |
| 941 | And that's sometimes what I would think | 我有时会这么想 |
| 942 | and say, like Raging Bull with Marty. | 并说,像骑牛与马蒂。 |
| 943 | It's not about, we're going to do something. | 这不是关于,我们要做些什么。 |
| 944 | If I know anything, I know it's going to be special. | 如果我知道什么, 我知道这将是特别的。 |
| 945 | That's all I can say. | 我只能这么说了 |
| 946 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 947 | You've mentioned the role of luck in acting | 你提到运气在演戏中的作用 |
| 948 | before already. | 之前已经。 |
| 949 | Now, you've been very successful in your career, | 你事业很成功 |
| 950 | but many actors struggle to make a living. | 但很多演员都在努力谋生 |
| 951 | So, given that risk, | 因此,鉴于这种风险, |
| 952 | is it actually a good idea to become an actor? | 成为一名演员其实是个好主意吗? |
| 953 | Would you recommend it to anyone? | 你会推荐给任何人吗? |
| 954 | и... | |
| 955 | You're basically asking, | 你基本上问, |
| 956 | would I recommend to be an actor to anyone? | 我建议别人做演员吗? |
| 957 | Was that...? | 这是... ? |
| 958 | Of course I would. | 我当然会 |
| 959 | If that's what you want to do. | 如是等觉. |
| 960 | The main thing is you want to... | 重要的是你想... |
| 961 | You have to really want to do it. | 你必须真的想这样做。 |
| 962 | And don't assume | 不要假设 |
| 963 | that you're going to be successful at it. | 你会成功的 |
| 964 | But I do feel | 但我确实觉得 |
| 965 | that if you work very hard | 如果你努力工作的话 |
| 966 | and you're serious about it, | 你是认真的, |
| 967 | you will have | 你会有 |
| 968 | a certain amount of success | 某种程度的成功 |
| 969 | at getting work, | 工作的时候, |
| 970 | doing things, | 做点什么, |
| 971 | and that would be... | 这将是... |
| 972 | should be satisfying. | 应该是满足。 |
| 973 | No matter what that would be | 无论是什么 |
| 974 | in regional theatre and theatre | 在地区剧院和剧院 |
| 975 | and especially here in England | 特别是在英国 |
| 976 | and movies, television, whatever. | 还有电影,电视,什么的 |
| 977 | I mean, it's just a matter of | 我的意思是,这只是一个问题 |
| 978 | committing to it | 承诺 |
| 979 | and what you really want to do. | 还有你真正想做的事 |
| 980 | So I could never say | 所以我永远不能说 |
| 981 | like to any of my kids, never be an actor. | 喜欢我的任何孩子, 从来没有成为一个演员。 |
| 982 | In fact, one of my kids | 其实,我的一个孩子 |
| 983 | studied acting, then went into | 学习表演,然后进入 |
| 984 | computer technology... | 电脑技术... |
| 985 | computer science, and now | 计算机科学,现在 |
| 986 | has split it | 已经分开了 |
| 987 | in his college stuff | 在他的大学的东西 |
| 988 | and did postgraduate computer. | 并做了研究生计算机。 |
| 989 | But he is thinking of acting too. | 但他也在考虑行动 |
| 990 | But he has something that's real | 但他有真实的东西 |
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| 992 | You know, we hear about the parents, | 我们听说父母的事 |
| 993 | get a real job, get a real job, | 找份真正的工作 找份真正的工作 |
| 994 | then you can do it. | 然后你可以做到这一点。 |
| 995 | I never said that, I just was lucky that | 我从来没有说过,我只是幸运的 |
| 996 | one of my kids | 一个我的孩子 |
| 997 | did it on his own. | 是他自己一个人做的 |
| 998 | I'm very proud of him. | 我为他感到骄傲 |
| 999 | Did you have something to fall back on | 你有什么东西要掉回去 |
| 1000 | as a 19 year old? | 作为19岁? |
| 1001 | No. | 没有 |
| 1002 | Right, who's up there? | 对,谁在上面? |
| 1003 | Is anyone questions up there? | 上面有人质疑吗? |
| 1004 | Yeah, here. | 给 |
| 1005 | Yes, you mentioned | 是的,你说了 |
| 1006 | Paul Schrader earlier, | 保罗・施拉德之前, |
| 1007 | writer of Taxi Driver. | 出租车司机的作家。 |
| 1008 | You've all mentioned how you've worked with Scorsese a lot, | 你们都提到过 你和斯科塞斯合作过很多次 |
| 1009 | but you've worked with a lot of Paul Schrader | 但你和很多保罗・施拉德合作过 |
| 1010 | scripts as well, as I know you've been in the film he's directed. | 剧本也一样 我知道你在导演的电影里 |
| 1011 | And you clearly | 很明显 |
| 1012 | have an attraction to a lot of Paul Schrader scripts. | 吸引了很多保罗·施拉德的剧本 |
| 1013 | I was just wondering what it is that | 我只是想知道这是什么 |
| 1014 | attracts you to his writing, or | 吸引你到他的写作,或 |
| 1015 | I know you're good friends, or at least | 我知道你们是好朋友,至少 |
| 1016 | you get on with what he's like, what your | 你得到他是什么样子,什么是你的 |
| 1017 | relationship with him is like. | 和他的关系就像。 |
| 1018 | So Paul, what attracts you to Paul's | 所以保罗,什么吸引你到保罗家 |
| 1019 | writing and what do you like about it? | 你喜欢写什么? |
| 1020 | Well, he | 那个,他 |
| 1021 | his | 他的电话 |
| 1022 | well, in Taxi Driver, it was | 嗯,在出租车司机,它是 |
| 1023 | a wonderful script. | 精彩的剧本 |
| 1024 | As I say, we all felt that way. | 如我所说,我们都有这种感觉。 |
| 1025 | Paul and I | 保罗和我 |
| 1026 | are friends, but we don't | 是朋友,但我们不是 |
| 1027 | hang out together, so we respect | 挂在一起,所以我们尊重 |
| 1028 | you. | 你们 |
| 1029 | He also, as far as working | 他还在工作方面 |
| 1030 | together, Marty had him | 一起,马蒂有他 |
| 1031 | because originally with | 因为最初是 |
| 1032 | Raging Bull, we were going to | 骑牛,我们本来要 |
| 1033 | I had this idea, well, you know, I'll do | 我有一个想法,你知道,我会做 |
| 1034 | it as a one-man kind of a show | 单人表演 |
| 1035 | on Broadway or something, and then | 在百老汇什么的, 然后 |
| 1036 | I'll do that at night | 我会在晚上这样做 |
| 1037 | and shoot it in the day, and that way I will | 然后在白天拍摄它, 这样我会 |
| 1038 | have kind of rehearsed it and had it down | 已经排练过,并把它放下 |
| 1039 | more in certain ways. | 更在某些方面。 |
| 1040 | And we proposed this to the studio | 我们向工作室提出这个 |
| 1041 | and they went along with it. | 他们也同意了 |
| 1042 | I'm sure they weren't happy about it, but | 我相信他们对此不高兴,但 |
| 1043 | you know, now we have to spend money on this | 你知道,现在我们得花钱了 |
| 1044 | play. | 游戏。 |
| 1045 | And then | 礛 |
| 1046 | Mardic Martin originally, who's passed | 马迪奇・马丁最初,谁通过了 |
| 1047 | away since, an old | 从那以后,一个老的 |
| 1048 | friend and co-worker, | 朋友和同事, |
| 1049 | Mardic | 马克 |
| 1050 | and I | 页:1 |
| 1051 | worked on it, talked about it, | 努力的,谈论它, |
| 1052 | researched, met people in relation to Raging Bull. | 研究过 认识了和Rage Bull有关的人 |
| 1053 | He was trying to do it. | 他想这么做 |
| 1054 | It didn't quite work. | 还没成功 |
| 1055 | Anyway, then | 总之,那么 |
| 1056 | Marty just got Paul Schrader | 马蒂刚抓到保罗・施拉德 |
| 1057 | to | 改为: |
| 1058 | pull the thing together and | 把东西拉在一起 |
| 1059 | give it more of a structure. | 给它更多的结构。 |
| 1060 | For example, there was | 举例来说,有 |
| 1061 | a third character, the friend, | 第三个角色,朋友, |
| 1062 | besides the brother, | 除了那个兄弟 |
| 1063 | and Paul pulled the friend out and made it just | 保罗把那个朋友拉出来 然后做了 |
| 1064 | between the brothers. | 在兄弟之间 |
| 1065 | And then Marty | 然后马蒂 |
| 1066 | and I went away to an island in the | 我去了一个岛上 |
| 1067 | Caribbean for a couple of weeks and just | 几周后在加勒比海 |
| 1068 | worked on the whole script, | 写了整个剧本 |
| 1069 | just pulled it all together as far | 刚刚把一切都拉到一起 |
| 1070 | as, just did the | 就像,刚刚做的 |
| 1071 | once over again | 再来一次 |
| 1072 | and that was it. | 就是这样。 |
| 1073 | So, I don't know if that's | 所以,我不知道如果这是 |
| 1074 | really an entry question, but anyway, that's | 真的是一个入门问题, 但无论如何,这就是 |
| 1075 | Paul, you know. | 保罗,你知道。 |
| 1076 | So you say Paul's a friend but you don't hang out. | 所以你说保罗是朋友 但你不挂出。 |
| 1077 | No, no. | 没有,没有。 |
| 1078 | Who do you hang | 你吊死谁? |
| 1079 | out with? | 离开? |
| 1080 | Apart from Tiffany. | 除了蒂芬妮之外 还有她 |
| 1081 | I have actor friends who you don't know, | 我有你不认识的演员朋友 |
| 1082 | Try me. | 试试看 |
| 1083 | And other friends who are not actors who you don't know. | 还有你不认识的不是演员的朋友 |
| 1084 | As someone who's worked with some of the | 作为与一些 |
| 1085 | greatest scripts in the industry, what | 业内最伟大的剧本,什么 |
| 1086 | advice can you give to | 您可给 |
| 1087 | aspiring screenwriters? | 有志向的编剧? |
| 1088 | Just | 刚刚 |
| 1089 | write what you feel | 写你的感受 |
| 1090 | and then the only | 唯一一个 |
| 1091 | way that you'll be unique is not writing | 你会独一无二的方式不是写 |
| 1092 | what other people expect of you, especially | 特别是别人对你的期望 |
| 1093 | if it's a formula type thing. | 如果它是一个公式类型的事情。 |
| 1094 | Even if you're dealing with a lot of cliches, | 即使你面对了很多陈词滥调 |
| 1095 | that doesn't mean the cliches | 这不代表陈词滥调 |
| 1096 | aren't real and good. | 不是真实和好的。 |
| 1097 | I'm | и琌 |
| 1098 | being kind of abstract in saying this | 说起来有点抽象 |
| 1099 | so I want to be careful. | 所以我想小心点。 |
| 1100 | You know, the most | 你知道吗,最 |
| 1101 | cliched thing is a baby | 陈词滥调是婴儿 |
| 1102 | being born, | 刚出生, |
| 1103 | people dying, people getting | 人死了,人们得到了 |
| 1104 | married. | 结婚了。 |
| 1105 | It's just how you do it and how | 这只是你怎么做和如何 |
| 1106 | specific you make it and how | 具体你是如何做到的 |
| 1107 | you make it your own from your own experience. | 你从自己的经历中得出了自己的成就. |
| 1108 | That's where you're going to | 这就是你要去的地方 |
| 1109 | excel, you know, that's where you're | 优秀的,你知道, 这就是你在哪里 |
| 1110 | going to stand out, hopefully | 希望会很突出 |
| 1111 | and just always be true | 只要永远是真实的 |
| 1112 | to what you want to feel | 来感受你的感受 |
| 1113 | and then how does that, | 然后如何做到这一点, |
| 1114 | how do you relate that to the world | 你怎么看待这个世界 |
| 1115 | and how you see it and that character, | 你如何看待它和那个角色, |
| 1116 | how they, what their | 他们如何,他们的 |
| 1117 | relationship to | 关系 |
| 1118 | the world is and why they're doing what they're | 这个世界是,他们为什么这样做 |
| 1119 | doing. | 开始 |
| 1120 | It's not easy, but that's | 这不容易,但是 |
| 1121 | the ideal. | 理想的。 |
| 1122 | I know this is a little different, | 我知道这有点不一样 |
| 1123 | but Bradley Cooper, who did the Star is Born, | 但布拉德利・库珀,谁做了"明星诞生", |
| 1124 | I thought that's one of the best ways to work. | 我认为这是最好的工作方式之一。 |
| 1125 | He worked on the script, he worked on his character, | 他致力于剧本, 他致力于他的性格, |
| 1126 | he directed it, he did all these things. | 他指挥它,他做了所有这些事情。 |
| 1127 | He spent all that time, | 他花了这么多时间 |
| 1128 | and I thought that was a wonderful movie, very special. | 我认为这是一部很棒的电影 非常特别 |
| 1129 | And he's gonna do a movie on Leonard Bernstein now, | 他现在要拍一部关于伦纳德·伯恩斯坦的电影 |
| 1130 | the same thing. | 同样的事情。 |
| 1131 | I said, there's no better way to do things | 我说,没有比这更好的办法 |
| 1132 | than the way he's doing it. | 而不是他这样做的方式。 |
| 1133 | He's doing it all, and it's a real commitment, | 他做这一切, 这是一个真正的承诺, |
| 1134 | a true commitment. | 真正的承诺。 |
| 1135 | Bob, if I may call you Bob. | 鲍勃,我可以叫你鲍勃。 |
| 1136 | There's a saying that you should never meet your heroes | 有句话说,你不应该遇见你的英雄 |
| 1137 | for fear of disappointment. | 因为害怕失望。 |
| 1138 | I think looking around the room today, | 我想今天看看房间 |
| 1139 | we can say for sure no one's disappointed. | 我们可以肯定没有人失望 |
| 1140 | However, I'd like to ask whether you have had heroes | 不过,我想问你有没有英雄 |
| 1141 | who have disappointed you, | 他们使你失望, |
| 1142 | or others who have surprised you | 或使你惊讶的人, |
| 1143 | in the most exhilarating way. | 最令人兴奋的方式。 |
| 1144 | I've had heroes, they haven't disappointed me. | 我有英雄,他们没有让我失望 |
| 1145 | They've just shown me that they're human. | 他们刚刚告诉我 他们是人类。 |
| 1146 | That's all. | 就这样 |
| 1147 | All actors, most actors that I know of, | 所有演员,我认识的大多数演员 |
| 1148 | my generation, all looked up to Brando. | 我这代人都仰慕白兰度 |
| 1149 | He was a great actor. | 他是一个伟大的演员。 |
| 1150 | He was nuts. | 他疯了。 |
| 1151 | But he was great. | 但他是伟大的。 |
| 1152 | He did a movie that I did, | 他拍了一部我拍的电影 |
| 1153 | and the director said, I'm thinking of using it. | 导演说,我想用它。 |
| 1154 | I said, okay, great. | 我说,好吧,太好了。 |
| 1155 | It's gonna be what it's gonna be, it's no problem. | 将如是等无碍. |
| 1156 | But we all loved him. | 但我们都爱他 |
| 1157 | It was predictable, certain things would happen, | 这是可预测的, 某些事情会发生, |
| 1158 | but we had so much respect for him. | 但我们很尊重他 |
| 1159 | He had a lot of faults, | 他有很多错误 |
| 1160 | I don't even want to call him faults, | 我甚至不想叫他错 |
| 1161 | that I'd say, well, I wouldn't do it like that, | 我会说,嗯,我不会这样做, |
| 1162 | but we had great respect for him. | 但我们非常尊敬他 |
| 1163 | So that was a hero. | 那是个英雄 |
| 1164 | No, I'm not disappointed. | 不,我没有失望。 |
| 1165 | Why should I expect more from him | 我为什么要对他期望更多呢? |
| 1166 | than I can't even get from myself at times? | 我有时甚至无法从自己那里得到? |
| 1167 | He did great things as an actor, | 作为一名演员,他做得很好 |
| 1168 | and as a person upset about the state of the world. | 并作为一个人 恼乱世界的状态。 |
| 1169 | So, you know, that's it. | 所以,你知道,就是这样。 |
| 1170 | Of course, probably there are people | 当然,也许有人 |
| 1171 | who you don't really know well, | 谁是你并不真正了解, |
| 1172 | you expect them to have done something more, | 你希望他们做更多的事情, |
| 1173 | and they made a left turn or a right turn, | 他们转身或转身。 |
| 1174 | and they could, yes, there are some people | 他们可以,是的,有人 |
| 1175 | I'm sadly disappointed about, | 我很遗憾地失望, |
| 1176 | and yet I understand their predicament, | 但我明白他们的困境, |
| 1177 | and I don't know how I would act in that situation. | 我不知道在那种情况下我会怎么做 |
| 1178 | One is Kazan, the House Un-American Activities Committee. | 一个是喀山, 众议院非美国活动委员会。 |
| 1179 | He named names, though he said those names | 他点了名字,虽然他说了这些名字 |
| 1180 | were already known, but that doesn't matter. | 已经知道,但这并不重要。 |
| 1181 | He was a king, and he was so well-respected and loved, | 他是一个国王, 他很受人尊敬和爱戴, |
| 1182 | and I've worked with him, | 我和他一起工作过, |
| 1183 | I did his last big film, The Last Tycoon, | 我拍了他最后一部大片"最后一个大亨" |
| 1184 | and he was as good as everybody always said he was, | 他和大家一样优秀 |
| 1185 | but I always felt terrible | 但我总是觉得很糟糕 |
| 1186 | for what that decision he made for him. | 为了他的决定 |
| 1187 | However he justified it, whatever it was, | 不论他为它辩解,无论它是什么, |
| 1188 | and I can't say, I don't know what I would do | 我不能说,我不知道我会怎么做 |
| 1189 | until that time comes, | 直到那个时候来临 |
| 1190 | but that was, but not a disappointment, a sadness. | 但那是,但不是一个失望, 悲伤。 |
| 1191 | I want to finish on a good question, | 我想说完一个好问题 |
| 1192 | and I'm not gonna ask the last question today, | 我今天不会问最后一个问题, |
| 1193 | so we'll go, we'll finish on a good one, | 所以我们去,我们完成一个好的, |
| 1194 | but maybe two more. | 但也许还有两个 |
| 1195 | Serena 最好这样 | |
| 1196 | Oh God, no pressure. | 哦,上帝,没有压力。 |
| 1197 | Thank you so much for coming. | 谢谢你能来 |
| 1198 | I just wanted to know everything | 我只是想知道一切情况 |
| 1199 | that you've achieved in life. | 你一生中的成就 |
| 1200 | Are you really satisfied with what you've given the world, | 你真的对你给世界的东西满意吗? |
| 1201 | or is there more that you think needs to be done | 或者你认为需要做的更多 |
| 1202 | in your lifetime? | 在你的一生吗? |
| 1203 | I think, well, you're never satisfied, | 我想你从不满意 |
| 1204 | and there's always a problem, always something to overcome. | 总是有问题 总会有需要克服的 |
| 1205 | There's no such thing as, | 没有这样的事, |
| 1206 | I think, well, if things would be easy, | 我想,如果事情会很轻松的话, |
| 1207 | they'd be easier than what. | 它们比什么容易。 |
| 1208 | There's always a problem. | 总有烦恼. |
| 1209 | There's no way around it. | 无边法界. |
| 1210 | That's my life, you know. | 这是我的生活,你知道的。 |
| 1211 | It's, sometimes the problems need to be created | 是,有时候问题需要解决 |
| 1212 | in order to solve that problem. | 为了解决这个问题。 |
| 1213 | It's one that has to be addressed finally, | 终于要解决了 |
| 1214 | though it's always been lurking or there somewhere, | 虽然它一直潜伏着或者在某个地方 |
| 1215 | and now finally it comes to the fore. | 现在终于想到了重点 |
| 1216 | It's time for it to come. | 时阿难. |
| 1217 | That kind of, yeah. | 这样,是的。 |
| 1218 | Amazing. | 厉害 |
| 1219 | I won't ask you to do the impression again. | 我不会再让你做那个印象了 |
| 1220 | Huh? | 是吗? |
| 1221 | I won't ask you to do the impression again | 我不会再让你做那个印象了 |
| 1222 | unless you want to do it for everyone. | 除非你想为所有人做 |
| 1223 | The impression? | 那个印象? |
| 1224 | Yeah, you're talking to me. | 是啊,你在跟我说话。 |
| 1225 | I'm talking to you, yeah, right, okay. | 我在跟你说话,是的,对,好的 |
| 1226 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 1227 | Let's jump in the purple hoodie. | 让我们跳在紫色帽衫。 |
| 1228 | I want to ask you about de-aging | 我想问你 关于去老化 |
| 1229 | and also about bringing deaf actors back to life. | 以及让聋哑演员复活 |
| 1230 | What is your opinion on that? | 你对此有什么看法? |
| 1231 | What? | 你说什么? |
| 1232 | Because many people are concerned that in the future, | 因为很多人担心未来 |
| 1233 | CGI is getting so good that we can just create actors | CGI越来越好到可以创造演员 |
| 1234 | in the future that a lot of young actors | 未来许多年轻演员 |
| 1235 | are not going to go to school. | 将不上学。 |
| 1236 | I'm trying to work on that. | 我正在努力解决 |
| 1237 | So I think it's about artificially resurrecting | 所以我认为是人工复活 |
| 1238 | dead actors via CGI and whether you have a view on that. | 死演员通过CGI, 以及你是否有一个观点。 |
| 1239 | Whether I have one? | 我有没有? |
| 1240 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 1241 | On that. | 在那个。 |
| 1242 | It's funny, if that's what you said, | 这很有趣,如果你这么说, |
| 1243 | I couldn't quite hear you so well, | 我听不太清楚你的声音 |
| 1244 | but yeah, that's something that I'm looking into. | 但我在调查这件事 |
| 1245 | Fascinating, but one more question. | 迷人,但还有一个问题。 |
| 1246 | Jesus, have you got your hand up? | 天啊,你的手举起来了吗? |
| 1247 | It needs to be a good one. | 这需要是一个好的。 |
| 1248 | Right at the very back, no pressure. | 就在后面,没有压力 |
| 1249 | I was just wondering, if a movie was made about your life, | 我只是想知道,如果一个电影 关于你的生活, |
| 1250 | who would you want to play as you and why? | 你想跟谁一起玩? |
| 1251 | Well done. | 干得不错 |
| 1252 | If a movie was made about your life, who should play you? | 如果电影是关于你的生活, 谁应该扮演你? |
| 1253 | That's a good question. | 问曰. |
| 1254 | I could never really feel comfortable | 我永远无法感到舒服 |
| 1255 | about somebody doing my life | 关于有人做我的生命 |
| 1256 | because they'd always do it wrong | 因为他们总是做错事 |
| 1257 | and I'd say, I understand, | 我会说,我明白了, |
| 1258 | that's the way you want to do it, do it that way. | 这就是你想要的方式, 做到这一点。 |
| 1259 | If, I don't know, there are many wonderful young actors | 如果,我不知道,有很多优秀的年轻演员 |
| 1260 | who I'd be lucky to get them to do it, | 我幸运地得到他们这样做, |
| 1261 | but you know, it's like, I guess I'd probably have | 但你知道,这就像, 我想我可能会 |
| 1262 | the reaction that anybody does when you do a story, | 任何人的反应 当你做一个故事, |
| 1263 | you do their story. | 你做他们的故事。 |
| 1264 | Some people are just happy you're doing it | 有些人只是很高兴你这样做 |
| 1265 | so they're not going to say anything | 所以他们什么都不会说的 |
| 1266 | and they'll basically sort of give you guidelines. | 他们基本上会给你指引 |
| 1267 | Well, no, it didn't go quite like that. | 嗯,不,它没有 相当这样。 |
| 1268 | Let me just be a little more. | 让我再多一点 |
| 1269 | But I'm not going to be around with anybody | 但我不会和任何人在一起 |
| 1270 | if anybody ever does that and then it won't matter. | 如果有人这样做,那就无所谓了。 |
| 1271 | Some of my kids might say something or about that. | 我有些孩子可能会说点什么 或者说那个 |
| 1272 | They might talk to them or whatever and get to... | 他们可能跟他们谈什么的 然后... |
| 1273 | Sometimes you just have to take off on what you feel | 有时你只需要离开你的感觉 |
| 1274 | from that character, that historical character, | 从那个角色,那个历史人物, |
| 1275 | like say, Raising Bull, Marty and I, | 比如说,养牛,马蒂和我, |
| 1276 | at the end of the day, we did what we felt was, | 最后,我们做了我们的感觉是, |
| 1277 | we made it our own, if you will, | 我们自己做的 如果你愿意的话 |
| 1278 | and that's what they say in acting school, | 这就是他们在表演学校里说的 |
| 1279 | make it your own. | 把它变成你自己的。 |
| 1280 | Doesn't necessarily mean that it's all accurate, | 不一定意味着这一切都准确, |
| 1281 | but there's a feeling that's coming out | 但有种感觉出来了 |
| 1282 | that's been spurred by what you picked up from that character, | 被你从那个角色那里得到的东西激起 |
| 1283 | that original character, | 那个原创角色, |
| 1284 | and that's your interpretation of it. | 这就是你对它的解释。 |
| 1285 | Like the Irishmen, people say, | 像爱尔兰人一样 人们说 |
| 1286 | well, Jimmy Hoffa didn't die the way he did. | 吉米・霍法没有像他那样死去 |
| 1287 | Some come up with these, | 有人想出这些, |
| 1288 | I never understood how this one about, | 我从来就不明白这个是怎么回事 |
| 1289 | he was found in a, or him or someone in a barrel, | 他被发现在一个, 或者他或某个人在一个桶, |
| 1290 | like in New Jersey. | 像在新泽西。 |
| 1291 | Well, if you're killed in the Midwest, | 如果你在中西部被杀了 |
| 1292 | why would they bother to, but that's something else. | 他们为什么要费心呢 但这是另外一回事 |
| 1293 | The point is, as Marty eloquently said, | 重点是,正如马蒂雄辩地说, |
| 1294 | it's our story, it's our take on this. | 这是我们的故事, 这是我们的承担。 |
| 1295 | It's not that it's the truth. | 岂非实相. |
| 1296 | We don't know what the truth is. | 我们不知道真相是什么 |
| 1297 | Hopefully the truth will come out, | 希望真相会大白 |
| 1298 | but it's our interpretation of this man's life | 但这是我们对这个人生活的解释 |
| 1299 | and that situation, that story. | 和那个情况,那个故事。 |
| 1300 | That's all. | 就这样 |
| 1301 | Bob, it's been such a privilege to have you today. | 鲍勃,今天有你真好 |
| 1302 | Just before we give a round of applause, | 就在我们鼓掌前 |
| 1303 | please could everyone just stay seated | 请大家坐好 |
| 1304 | whilst we get Bob out of the room, | 我们把鲍勃弄出去的时候 |
| 1305 | but thank you so much for coming. | 谢谢你能来 |
| 1306 | It's been a pleasure. | 幸会 |
| 1307 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 1308 | 宋oshi. |
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