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| 0:00 | My Lords, this approach to developing technical routes and vocational GCSEs is not about separating | 阁下,这种发展技术路线和职业普通教育程度证书的办法并不是要分离。 |
| 0:10 | pupils into academic or vocational routes at age 14, rather it is about widening pupils | 14岁进入学术或职业课程的学生,与其说是扩大学生人数。 |
| 0:16 | choices, supporting coherent progression to a range of academic and technical post-16 | * 支持连贯一致地向一系列学术和技术职位发展 |
| 0:22 | options. | 选项。 |
| 0:23 | The new technical education routes will provide every young person with a clear path into | 新的技术教育路线将为每一个年轻人提供一条通往 |
| 0:28 | further study, apprenticeships or skilled work by combining academic excellence in core | 学习、学徒或技术工作,将优秀的学术成就结合起来 |
| 0:34 | subjects with rigorous vocationally focused qualifications of equal parity and esteem | 具有同等和同等尊重的严格职业资格的学科; |
| 0:40 | as traditional GCSEs. | 作为传统的GCSE. |
| 0:44 | Sure, I heard in the noble lady's answer any of the robust evidence that I asked for, | 当然,我在高贵的女士的回答中听到了任何我要求的证据, |
| 0:51 | but I accept the intentions of the Government, but the Government has justified its pivot | 但我接受政府的意图,但政府却证明, |
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| 1 | My Lords, this approach to developing technical routes and vocational GCSEs is not about separating | 阁下,这种发展技术路线和职业普通教育程度证书的办法并不是要分离。 |
| 2 | pupils into academic or vocational routes at age 14, rather it is about widening pupils | 14岁进入学术或职业课程的学生,与其说是扩大学生人数。 |
| 3 | choices, supporting coherent progression to a range of academic and technical post-16 | * 支持连贯一致地向一系列学术和技术职位发展 |
| 4 | options. | 选项。 |
| 5 | The new technical education routes will provide every young person with a clear path into | 新的技术教育路线将为每一个年轻人提供一条通往 |
| 6 | further study, apprenticeships or skilled work by combining academic excellence in core | 学习、学徒或技术工作,将优秀的学术成就结合起来 |
| 7 | subjects with rigorous vocationally focused qualifications of equal parity and esteem | 具有同等和同等尊重的严格职业资格的学科; |
| 8 | as traditional GCSEs. | 作为传统的GCSE. |
| 9 | Sure, I heard in the noble lady's answer any of the robust evidence that I asked for, | 当然,我在高贵的女士的回答中听到了任何我要求的证据, |
| 10 | but I accept the intentions of the Government, but the Government has justified its pivot | 但我接受政府的意图,但政府却证明, |
| 11 | towards generic skills and vocational routes by suggesting that a knowledge-based academic | 向一般技能和职业路线发展,建议以知识为基础的学术 |
| 12 | curriculum has contributed to the high level of NEETs among our young people. | 课程提高了我国年轻人的国家教育和培训水平。 |
| 13 | But given that education is devolved and Wales and Scotland have pursued these vocational | 但是,鉴于教育被下放,威尔士和苏格兰也从事这些职业。 |
| 14 | routes for many years and their levels of NEETs are higher than ours, would the noble | 多年来的路线 以及他们的NEET水平 都比我们高 |
| 15 | Minister concede that stripping academic rigor from our classrooms is a false remedy to a | 部长承认,剥夺我们教室的学术严谨性是对一个 |
| 16 | structural economic problem? | 结构性经济问题? |
| 17 | On the point about evidence, evidence actually suggests that the existing technical awards | 关于证据,证据实际上表明,现有的技术裁决 |
| 18 | are taken slightly more often by disadvantaged pupils. | 弱势学生的收留略多。 |
| 19 | That's one of the reasons why we are reforming the system, so that pupils' choices are driven | 这就是我们改革制度的原因之一 让学生的选择被驱动 |
| 20 | by their interests and aspirations rather than their background. | 他们的利益和愿望,而不是他们的背景。 |
| 21 | The noble lady suggested that this Government has said that knowledge isn't important in | 这位贵妇建议 这个政府说 知识并不重要 |
| 22 | the curriculum. | 课程。 |
| 23 | That's wholly wrong. | 这完全是错误的。 |
| 24 | Actually, as the noble lady will see when we publish our plans with respect to the curriculum | 事实上,贵族女士会看到 我们公布课程计划 |
| 25 | following the Curriculum and Assessment Review, we have been clear throughout that knowledge | 在《课程和评估审查》之后,我们始终清楚了解 |
| 26 | is a key element of the curriculum, but it is possible to deliver high quality academic | 这是课程的一个关键要素,但有可能提供高质量的学术课程。 |
| 27 | standards and deep knowledge alongside the opportunity for pupils also to develop vocational | 学生也有机会发展职业 |
| 28 | and technical skills in a way that provides a broad and deep curriculum that is currently | 以提供目前广泛和深入的课程的方式提供 |
| 29 | missing. | 失踪。 |
| 30 | My Lords, would the Minister give us some indication of what advice they are giving | 大人,部长能否给我们一些指示 说明他们有什么建议 |
| 31 | not only to the pupil but also to the parents of these pupils about the value of these new | 不仅对学生,而且对这些学生的父母来说,这些新课程的价值 |
| 32 | qualifications? | 资格? |
| 33 | If we are to get people taking subjects they have an aptitude for as opposed to what is | 如果我们要让人们接受课程 他们有天赋 而不是什么 |
| 34 | seen to be the desirable thing by somebody else, we will need to make sure that people | 被别人看成是理想的东西 我们需要确保人们 |
| 35 | understand that process. | 理解这个过程。 |
| 36 | I think the noble Lord makes a very important point. | 我认为尊贵的上帝有很重要的一点。 |
| 37 | Of course, we will be consulting on the content and nature of vocational GCSEs very soon during | 当然,我们将很快就职业普通中等教育课程的内容和性质进行磋商。 |
| 38 | the course of this autumn. | 这秋天的路程。 |
| 39 | Because this is about technical pathways delivered and developed at a local and regional level, | 因为这是在地方和区域两级提供和开发的技术途径, |
| 40 | we are also working closely with mayoral authorities, with employers and others, and I am sure they, | 我们还与市长当局、雇主和其他人密切合作,我相信他们, |
| 41 | as we do, will want to ensure that there is strong advice for parents and clear information | 正如我们所做的那样,希望确保向父母提供强有力的建议和明确的信息。 |
| 42 | about what it means to take a vocational GCSE as part of that broad curriculum. | 关于将职业普通中等教育作为这一广泛课程的一部分意味着什么。 |
| 43 | My Lords, I declare my interest as the Chair of the Building Safety Regulator. | 大人,我宣布我有兴趣担任 建筑安全监管局主席 |
| 44 | I think it is fair to say that it is well understood across both sides of this House | 我认为,公平地说,这在大会堂的两边是可以理解的。 |
| 45 | that the construction economy is one of the most important parts of our wider economy. | 建筑经济是我们更广泛经济中最重要的组成部分之一。 |
| 46 | It employs 2 million people, but we also know that it is running about 40,000 construction | 它雇佣了200万人,但我们也知道它正在运行 大约40,000个建筑 |
| 47 | workers short a year between now and 2030. | 从现在到2030年,工人不到一年。 |
| 48 | My question to my noble friend the Minister is, I know that the new proposed vocational | 我对我的贵族朋友问,部长是,我知道新的职业提议 |
| 49 | GCSE for building construction has been widely welcomed by the industry, but what specific | 建筑业对建筑工程的GCSE普遍表示欢迎,但具体内容是什么? |
| 50 | work is being done to ensure that the curriculum and the syllabus is built on the needs of | 正在开展工作,以确保课程和教学大纲建立在以下需要的基础上: |
| 51 | the industry and in conjunction with the industry? | 产业,以及结合产业? |
| 52 | My noble friend makes a really important point. | 我高贵的朋友说出了一个非常重要的观点。 |
| 53 | These must be qualifications that align with and are informed by what the industry sees | 这些必须是符合并了解行业所见情况的资格 |
| 54 | as important, because that is of course what provides the opportunity for the young person | 这一点很重要,因为这当然是 为年轻人提供机会 |
| 55 | to know that they are on a pathway that can lead to good work. | 让他们知道他们正走上一条可以导致良好工作的道路。 |
| 56 | That will be a key element of the consultation that will be starting soon. | 这将是即将开始的协商的一个关键要素。 |
| 57 | My Lords, I think rather like the UTC question last week, the Government are in danger of | 大人,我觉得像UTC上周的问题一样 政府正面临危险 |
| 58 | asking questions that they should know the answer to. | 问他们应该知道答案的问题。 |
| 59 | Would the noble Lady agree with me that there already is an intellectually rigorous vocational | 尊贵的女士会同意我的观点吗? 已经有一个 智力严谨的职业 |
| 60 | subject called Design and Technology and I teach it? | "设计与技术"课程 我教它? |
| 61 | All they need to do is reopen the workshops, recruit specialist teachers and get a parity | 他们只需要重新开工 招聘专业教师 实现平等 |
| 62 | of esteem with parents and metrics. | 尊重父母和衡量标准。 |
| 63 | I am sure that the noble Lord does a very good job of delivering design and technology. | 我相信,尊贵的上帝在提供设计和技术方面做得非常好。 |
| 64 | He will have noted that it is already the case that in the response to the curriculum | 他将会指出,在对课程的答复中,已经是这种情况了。 |
| 65 | assessment review the Government have been clear that we want to create both more space | 政府显然希望创造更多的空间 |
| 66 | and more value to some of those courses that have been lost over previous years. | 并且对前几年失去的一些课程更有价值。 |
| 67 | It is of course also the case that in delivering this broad curriculum we will want to be clear | 当然,在提供这种广泛的课程时,我们也希望明确: |
| 68 | about what is necessary in terms of equipment, the state of the school and the training of | 在设备、学校状况和培训方面有何必要? |
| 69 | teachers. | 老师 |
| 70 | My Lords, I fear that the Minister may have misheard the noble Baroness Lady Barron. | 陛下,我担心部长 可能听错了巴伦夫人的男爵夫人 |
| 71 | He did not criticise the Government for criticising the academic curriculum, but for saying that | 他没有批评政府批评学术课程,而是说 |
| 72 | the academic curriculum had contributed to the number of needs. | 学术课程对需求数量做出了贡献。 |
| 73 | The Government is on record as saying that. | 政府已记录在案。 |
| 74 | It is of real concern to many educationalists that having seen already a focus on skills | 许多教育家真正关注的是,已经看到对技能的重视。 |
| 75 | in Scotland and Wales accelerates the number of needs there. | 在苏格兰和威尔士,需求数量加快。 |
| 76 | How is the Government going to assess and monitor whether disadvantaged pupils with | 政府将如何评估和监测处境不利的学生是否患有 |
| 77 | good results at 11 are more likely to be entered for a vocational GCSE than a better off pupil | 11岁时的好成绩比好学生更有可能进入职业普通中等教育课程 |
| 78 | with the same results, which is steering and lowering of expectations? | * 取得同样的结果,是什么在指导和降低期望? |
| 79 | We are very keen to understand how the Government is going to ensure that does not happen. | 我们非常想知道政府将如何确保不发生这种情况。 |
| 80 | I am very happy to go back and look at the record, but I do think the noble Lady said | 我很高兴回去看记录 但我确实认为尊贵的夫人说过 |
| 81 | that this Government had said that a knowledge-based curriculum was... | 政府说,基于知识的课程是. |
| 82 | Well, let us look at the record. | 好吧,让我们看看记录。 |
| 83 | My point remains that what we are providing for here is a strong, deep academic curriculum | 我的观点仍然是,我们在这里提供 是一个强大的,深刻的学术课程 |
| 84 | alongside options for students to study more technical and vocational courses. | 与学生学习更多技术和职业课程的备选办法相结合。 |
| 85 | The noble Lady makes an important point. | 尊贵的夫人说出了一个重要的观点. |
| 86 | We will, of course, both in terms of the evidence, some of which I have already cited, but in | 当然,在证据方面,我们都会这样做,一些证据我已经提到过,但是, |
| 87 | terms of the work that we do in developing vocational GCSEs, want to be very clear that | 我们为发展职业普通中等教育而开展的工作,要非常明确地指出: |
| 88 | this is something that is providing higher standards and better opportunities for all | 这会为所有人提供更高的标准和更好的机会 |
| 89 | students. | 学生。 |
| 90 | We will make sure that that is part of the development and part of the monitoring and | 我们将确保,这是发展的一部分,也是监测和监测的一部分。 |
| 91 | evaluation. | 评估。 |
| 92 | My Lords, does my noble friend agree with me that many students were disadvantaged by | 大人,我的贵族朋友同意我的观点吗? 很多学生都因为 |
| 93 | the previous straitjacket of a curriculum which did not allow for anything like enough | 之前的束缚 课程不允许任何类似的东西 |
| 94 | access to creative subjects and perilously small access to technical subjects, and therefore | 获得创造性课程的机会和获得技术课程的机会极少,因此, |
| 95 | widening the possibility for all young people is an extremely good idea? | 扩大所有年轻人的可能性是一个极好的想法? |
| 96 | Yes, I do agree with my noble friend. | 是的,我同意我的贵族朋友 |
| 97 | What is more, that was the conclusion of the independent curriculum and assessment review, | 此外,还有独立课程和评估审查的结论, |
| 98 | which of course the Government will be bringing forward proposals on in the near future. | 当然,政府将在近期提出建议。 |
| 99 | But I just reiterate that we also believe that the ability and requirement, in fact, | 但我只是重申,我们也相信, 能力和要求,事实上, |
| 100 | to continue with English Maths Science to be able to put vocational GCSEs alongside | 继续从事英语数学科学,以便能够将职业普通教育证书与普通教育证书并列 |
| 101 | rigorous academic subjects as well, where that makes sense for the students, is a really | 严格的学术科目,如果 这对学生有道理, |
| 102 | important part of our proposals, as is ensuring that these new qualifications meet the highest | 我们建议中的重要部分,以及确保这些新的资格符合最高资格标准。 |
| 103 | possible standards, being based on nationally set criteria, which current technical awards | 可能的标准,以国家制定的标准为基础,目前的技术奖 |
| 104 | aren't, and being available for all students, and very much not something that students | 和所有的学生, 和非常不是学生 |
| 105 | should be funneled into, but rather opening doors and opportunities for them. | 应为它们打开大门和机会。 |
| 106 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
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