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| 0:10 | My Lords, the Government consulted on several issues regarding copyright and AI, and that | 法官们,政府就版权和大赦国际的若干问题进行了磋商,并且 |
| 0:15 | consultation closed on 25 February. | 磋商于2月25日结束。 |
| 0:19 | Over 11,500 responses were received. | 收到了11 500多份答复。 |
| 0:23 | We welcome this significant | 我们对此表示欢迎 |
| 0:24 | engagement from across the creative and AI sectors. | 跨创意和AI部门的参与。 |
| 0:28 | Our priority must be now to analyse | 我们现在必须优先分析 |
| 0:31 | the evidence that has been submitted, and proposals will be set out in due course, including | 提交的证据和提案将在适当时候提出,包括: |
| 0:36 | a fuller breakdown of the types of respondent that we have received. | 更全面地细分我们收到的答复类型。 |
| 0:41 | I am very grateful to my noble friend the Minister for that answer and declare my interest | 我非常感谢我的贵友部长的回答,并宣布我的兴趣 |
| 0:46 | as an author, like many Members of your Lordships' House. | 象许多贵族一样, |
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| 1 | My Lords, the Government consulted on several issues regarding copyright and AI, and that | 法官们,政府就版权和大赦国际的若干问题进行了磋商,并且 |
| 2 | consultation closed on 25 February. | 磋商于2月25日结束。 |
| 3 | Over 11,500 responses were received. | 收到了11 500多份答复。 |
| 4 | We welcome this significant | 我们对此表示欢迎 |
| 5 | engagement from across the creative and AI sectors. | 跨创意和AI部门的参与。 |
| 6 | Our priority must be now to analyse | 我们现在必须优先分析 |
| 7 | the evidence that has been submitted, and proposals will be set out in due course, including | 提交的证据和提案将在适当时候提出,包括: |
| 8 | a fuller breakdown of the types of respondent that we have received. | 更全面地细分我们收到的答复类型。 |
| 9 | I am very grateful to my noble friend the Minister for that answer and declare my interest | 我非常感谢我的贵友部长的回答,并宣布我的兴趣 |
| 10 | as an author, like many Members of your Lordships' House. | 象许多贵族一样, |
| 11 | Does my noble friend agree that the | 我的贵族朋友是否同意 |
| 12 | intellectual property of creatives in this country is no less precious or important than | 国家创造者的知识产权不亚于 |
| 13 | the intellectual property of tech companies, who have, frankly, already been scraping the | 技术公司的知识产权,坦率地说,这些公司已经废除了 |
| 14 | internet for creative work and ripping these people off? | 上网做创意工作 撕掉这些人? |
| 15 | Wherever policy lands in the future | 未来政策落地之处 |
| 16 | as a result of the consultation, will the Government consider offering assistance to | 作为协商的结果,政府是否考虑向下列机构提供援助: |
| 17 | creatives, many of whom are really not very well off, to ensure that they have restitution | 创造力,其中许多人实际上并不富裕,以确保他们得到归还 |
| 18 | for the grand theft that has already been perpetrated? | 对于已经发生的大盗窃? |
| 19 | My Lords, of course the Government recognise the concerns that many in the creative industries | 大人们,当然,政府认识到许多创意行业人士的关切。 |
| 20 | have about the potential impact of AI on that sector. | 了解大赦国际对该部门的潜在影响。 |
| 21 | This is why we want to act now to give | 这就是为什么我们现在想要采取行动 给予 |
| 22 | the UK creators greater control over their works and have more transparency about how | 联合王国的创作者对其作品拥有更大的控制权,并更加透明地了解如何 |
| 23 | their work is being used, as well as creating the ability for them to be paid for it. | 他们的工作正在得到利用,并使他们有能力为此获得报酬。 |
| 24 | That | 那个 |
| 25 | is exactly what the proposals in our consultation aim to achieve. | 这正是我们磋商中的建议所要达到的目标。 |
| 26 | This is a complicated area, because AI adoption also has the potential to drive growth across | 这是一个复杂的领域,因为人工智能的采用也有可能推动经济增长。 |
| 27 | the economy, including in the creative industries, so that, for example, 38% of creative industry | 经济,包括创意产业,因此,例如,38%的创意产业 |
| 28 | businesses are already using AI technology. | 企业已经在使用人工智能技术。 |
| 29 | It is a complicated area, but we know that | 这是一个复杂的领域,但我们知道 |
| 30 | we have to find a solution and we know that we have to protect the interests of creatives | 我们必须找到一个解决方案 我们知道我们必须保护 创造者的利益 |
| 31 | in the future in the way that the noble Baroness has alerted us. | 在未来 贵族女爵警告我们的方式 |
| 32 | My Lords, the Government intend to take out the transparency amendments brought by my | 大人们,政府打算 取消我提出的透明度修正案 |
| 33 | noble friend Lady Kiddrum in the Data, Use and Access Bill. | 高贵的朋友Kiddrum夫人 在数据,使用和访问法案。 |
| 34 | What provision is the Government | 政府有何规定? |
| 35 | going to make to ensure that creatives know that their copyrighted work has been pirated | 将会确保创造者知道 他们的版权作品被盗用 |
| 36 | by AI models so that they can then take action? | 由AI模型,这样他们就可以采取行动? |
| 37 | The Government agree with many of the points made during the debate on the Data Bill and | 政府同意在辩论《数据法案》期间提出的许多观点; |
| 38 | in other discussions in this House that further transparency is needed from AI developers | 在本院其他讨论中,需要AI开发商进一步提高透明度 |
| 39 | about their use of web crawlers and the materials that they use to train their models. | 他们使用网络爬行器 以及用来训练模特的材料 |
| 40 | However, | 不过, |
| 41 | we have got a consultation out, and it would be premature to commit to specific legislation | 我们进行了协商 承诺制定具体立法还为时过早 |
| 42 | until we have analysed the responses to that consultation and heard all of the voices in | 直到我们分析了对协商的反应,并听到所有的声音。 |
| 43 | this sector. | 这个部门。 |
| 44 | Nevertheless, I can assure the noble Lord that we intend to resolve this | 尽管如此,我可以向尊贵的上帝保证 我们打算解决这个问题 |
| 45 | issue. | 问题。 |
| 46 | It is an issue that the previous Government failed to resolve, and we need to resolve | 上届政府未能解决这个问题,我们需要解决这个问题。 |
| 47 | it now. | 现在 |
| 48 | We will take action as soon as the consultation has been analysed and resolved. | 一旦分析和解决了磋商,我们将立即采取行动。 |
| 49 | My Lords, there has been widespread concern that the Secretary of State in the noble ladies | 大人们,人们普遍担心 国务卿在贵族夫人中 |
| 50 | Department has been very happy to meet representatives of big tech and AI firms, but less willing | 部门很高兴见到大科技公司和AI公司的代表 但不太愿意 |
| 51 | to meet representatives of our thriving but threatened creative industries. | 会见我们繁荣但受到威胁的创意产业的代表。 |
| 52 | Of course, | 当然 |
| 53 | in due course, his meetings will be published through the Government's quarterly transparency | 将在适当时候通过政府季度透明度公布其会议。 |
| 54 | Given how germane this is to a contentious area of policy currently under discussion, | 鉴于这与目前正在讨论的一个有争议的政策领域是多么相关, |
| 55 | will she give consideration to publishing that list of meetings sooner? | 她是否考虑尽早公布会议清单? |
| 56 | My Lords, that information will be, as the noble Lord knows, published in the normal | 大人们,正如尊贵的上帝所知道的, 这些信息将会在正常情况下公布 |
| 57 | way. | 就是这样 |
| 58 | However, I would say that the Minister for AI, Digital Government and the Minister | 然而,我要说,大赦国际部长、数字政府部长和部长 |
| 59 | for Creative Industries, Arts and Tourism have been extremely active and engaging on | 创意产业、艺术和旅游组织一直极为活跃和参与 |
| 60 | the subject. | 主题。 |
| 61 | They have held roundtables with the creative industries and the AI sector | 他们与创意产业和AI部门举行了圆桌会议。 |
| 62 | during the consultation. | 在磋商期间。 |
| 63 | It is a joint consultation, so it is DCMS and DCID. | 这是一次联合协商,因此是DCMS和DCID。 |
| 64 | This morning, the | 今天早上,我们... |
| 65 | Secretary of State for DCID explained that. | 负责DCID的国务秘书对此作了解释。 |
| 66 | He also said that he is open to meetings with | 他还说,他愿意与下列人士会面: |
| 67 | the creative sector. | 创意部门。 |
| 68 | All of that is on the table. | 所有这一切都摆在桌面上。 |
| 69 | There is no problem about dialogue | 对话没有问题 |
| 70 | engagement. | 订婚。 |
| 71 | That will go on in the next few months as well, while we seek to find a solution | 在今后几个月里,我们也会继续寻找解决办法。 |
| 72 | to this issue. | 这个问题。 |
| 73 | My Lords, I know that regardless of whatever future plans are brought forward, will the | 大人们,我知道不管将来有什么计划 |
| 74 | noble Baroness confirm that if the outcome of current challenges show that our current | 尊贵的男爵夫人确认,如果当前挑战的结果表明,我们当前的挑战是: |
| 75 | IP regime is legal, the Government will provide assistance to those creators whose IP has been | 知识产权制度是合法的,政府将向知识产权已经生效的创造者提供援助。 |
| 76 | on an industrial scale by AI companies? | AI公司的工业规模? |
| 77 | The noble Lord is right that this is a complicated copyright area. | 贵族主说得对 这是一个复杂的版权领域。 |
| 78 | There are some legal cases | 有一些法律案件 |
| 79 | in the offing. | 在关上。 |
| 80 | It is a complicated area and a holistic approach. | 这是一个复杂的领域,是一个整体办法。 |
| 81 | Our view is that addressing | 我们认为, |
| 82 | the issue in isolation will not provide sufficient legal charity or resolve the issue in the | 孤立地解决问题不会提供充分的法律帮助或解决问题。 |
| 83 | way that I think most noble Lords would expect. | 我认为大多数贵族都期望这样 |
| 84 | The consultation will help guide us on this | 磋商会有助于指导我们 |
| 85 | issue. | 问题。 |
| 86 | I urge noble Lords to await the outcome of that consultation, which I hope will provide | 我敦促尊贵的领主等待协商的结果,我希望协商能提供 |
| 87 | some solutions. | 一些解决方案。 |
| 88 | I recognise that the task of analysing the results of the consultation still needs to | 我认识到,分析协商结果的任务仍然需要: |
| 89 | go ahead. | 说吧 |
| 90 | Does the Minister agree that digital watermarking is going to be a key component | 部长是否同意数字水标将是一个关键组成部分 |
| 91 | of the solution to the AI and copyright issue? | 解决AI和版权问题的办法? |
| 92 | If so, what does she make of the number of | 如果是这样,那么,她认为有多少人 |
| 93 | digital watermarking solutions that are now coming to market? | 数字水标解决方案即将上市? |
| 94 | Is this, in her view, something | 在她看来,这是什么 |
| 95 | to be welcomed, or should we be pursuing a single standard for digital watermarks? | 我们是否应该对数字水印采用单一的标准? |
| 96 | The noble Lord made an important point about watermarks, and that is certainly one solution | 尊贵的领主对水印提出了重要观点 这当然是一个解决方案 |
| 97 | that we are considering. | 我们正在考虑。 |
| 98 | The issue of transparency is absolutely crucial to the outcome of this | 透明度问题对结果绝对至关重要。 |
| 99 | issue, and watermarks certainly would help with that. | 水印当然能帮助我们 |
| 100 | I do not have a view as yet about | 我还没有看到 |
| 101 | whether we should have one or many, but I am hoping that the consultation will give | 无论是应该有一个还是许多,但我希望磋商将给予 |
| 102 | us some guidance on that. | 我们对此有一些指导。 |
| 103 | My Lords, the Minister is right when she says that AI is extensively used in the creative | 大人,部长说得对 她说AI被广泛用于创作 |
| 104 | industries and in the music industry, and has been for a long time as a servant, not | 和音乐行业, 并一直以来作为一个仆人,不是 |
| 105 | as a master of creatives. | 作为创作大师. |
| 106 | Is this not an opportunity to look at companies such as Darcy, DAACI, | 这难道不是一个机会,看看 达西,DAACI等公司, |
| 107 | who are trying to use AI in an ethical way that ensures that creators are rewarded for | 他们试图以道德的方式使用AI,确保创造者得到奖励 |
| 108 | their input? | 他们的投入? |
| 109 | I thank my noble friend for that proposal. | 我感谢我的崇高朋友提出的这一提议。 |
| 110 | I hope that all of these will contribute to | 我希望所有这一切都将有助于: |
| 111 | the consultation, because these are exactly the sorts of standards that we want to achieve. | 因为这正是我们希望达到的标准。 |
| 112 | We want to make sure that creators get the right rewards. | 我们想要确保创造者得到正确的奖励. |
| 113 | That is certainly our intention | 这当然是我们的意图 |
| 114 | through this consultation. | 通过这次磋商。 |
| 115 | We need to find a way through this. | 我们需要找到一个方法 解决这个问题。 |
| 116 | We are working very hard, | 我们很努力 |
| 117 | and we will not give up until we have found a way to resolve the issue. | 直到找到解决问题的办法,我们才会放弃。 |
| 118 | My Lords, the Earl Clankati, the noble Lord Foster and the noble Baroness Lady Chakrabarti | 大人们 伯爵克兰卡蒂 尊贵的福斯特大人 尊贵的查克拉巴蒂女男爵夫人 |
| 119 | have all pointed out the way in which Big Tech has already stolen large amounts of property. | Big Tech已经盗取了大量财产。 |
| 120 | Had that property been cash or gold, we surely would be getting a different reaction from | 如果财产是现金或黄金,我们肯定会得到不同的反应 |
| 121 | the Government, yet it is actually the same thing. | 政府,但实际上,这是同样的事情。 |
| 122 | I have a constructive suggestion to | 我有一个建设性的建议 |
| 123 | help the noble Baroness out of this. | 帮助贵族男爵夫人走出困境. |
| 124 | How about a universal basic income for the creative | 创造者的普遍基本收入如何? |
| 125 | sector as compensation? | 作为补偿的部门? |
| 126 | I thank the noble Baroness for her helpful suggestion. | 我感谢尊贵的女男爵夫人的有益建议。 |
| 127 | Hopefully she will have fed that | 希望她能吃到这个 |
| 128 | into the consultation, and I am sure it will be considered as one of the many proposals | 我相信,它将被视为许多建议之一。 |
| 129 | for resolving this issue. | 为了解决这个问题。 |
| 130 | Has His Majesty's Government received representations, formal or informal, on this subject from the | 国王陛下政府是否收到联合王国政府就此问题的正式或非正式陈述? |
| 131 | Government of the United States? | 美国政府? |
| 132 | If so, will they publish the substance of those representations? | 如果有,它们是否将公布这些表述的实质内容? |
| 133 | To my knowledge, we have not received any representations at the moment from the Government. | 据我所知,我们目前没有收到政府的任何陈述。 |
| 134 | I am sure that any such discussions which do take place will become public very quickly. | 我相信,任何此类讨论将很快公开进行。 |
| 135 | Thank you for your attention. | 谢谢你的注意。 |
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