6-25 委内瑞拉突发致命大地震,核心机场瘫痪,川普的重建计
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| 0:00 | Welcome to the Global News podcast from the BBC. | 欢迎来到英国广播公司的全球新闻播客。 |
| 0:02 | I'm Valerie Sanderson and I'm joined by Luis Fajardo. | 我是瓦莱丽·桑德森 路易斯·法贾多也加入我 |
| 0:06 | Luis, Venezuela has declared a state of emergency because of the earthquakes that have happened in | 路易斯,委内瑞拉宣布进入紧急状态 因为地震发生在 |
| 0:11 | the country. | 国家。 |
| 0:12 | What can you tell us? | 你能告诉我们什么? |
| 0:13 | The images and the news we're getting from Venezuela are truly | 我们从委内瑞拉得到的图像和消息是真的 |
| 0:17 | heartbreaking. | 令人心碎。 |
| 0:18 | The amount of destruction that the country has suffered and it is going to have to | 国家遭受的破坏程度,将不得不 |
| 0:23 | deal with a huge task of reconstruction from what the first images we're getting. | 处理一个巨大的重建任务 从我们最初得到的图像。 |
| 0:28 | We see images in | 我们看到图像在 |
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| 1 | Welcome to the Global News podcast from the BBC. | 欢迎来到英国广播公司的全球新闻播客。 |
| 2 | I'm Valerie Sanderson and I'm joined by Luis Fajardo. | 我是瓦莱丽·桑德森 路易斯·法贾多也加入我 |
| 3 | Luis, Venezuela has declared a state of emergency because of the earthquakes that have happened in | 路易斯,委内瑞拉宣布进入紧急状态 因为地震发生在 |
| 4 | the country. | 国家。 |
| 5 | What can you tell us? | 你能告诉我们什么? |
| 6 | The images and the news we're getting from Venezuela are truly | 我们从委内瑞拉得到的图像和消息是真的 |
| 7 | heartbreaking. | 令人心碎。 |
| 8 | The amount of destruction that the country has suffered and it is going to have to | 国家遭受的破坏程度,将不得不 |
| 9 | deal with a huge task of reconstruction from what the first images we're getting. | 处理一个巨大的重建任务 从我们最初得到的图像。 |
| 10 | We see images in | 我们看到图像在 |
| 11 | the Venezuelan capital of entire rows of high-rise buildings very seriously damaged, in some cases | 委内瑞拉一整排高层建筑的首府严重受损,在某些情况下 |
| 12 | even flattened basically. | 基本上甚至平了下来 |
| 13 | Also images in other areas of the Caracas metropolitan area, people | 在加拉加斯市区的其他地区, |
| 14 | in their neighborhoods seeing their houses or the houses of their neighbors destroyed. | 在他们的社区里,看见他们的房屋或邻居的房屋被摧毁。 |
| 15 | The authorities | 当局 |
| 16 | are saying that one of the worst hits or possibly the worst hit area is the city is the area around | 说一个最糟糕的打击 或可能是最糟糕的打击区域 是城市周围的区域 |
| 17 | La Guaira. | 拉瓜亚拉. |
| 18 | La Guaira is a port relatively close to the capital, to Caracas. | 拉瓜伊拉是一个与首都,加拉加斯相对接近的港口. |
| 19 | It is also very near to | 也离我们很近 |
| 20 | where the international airport is, to Maquetea International Airport, which the airport is | 国际机场所在的马凯蒂亚国际机场 |
| 21 | serving the nation's capital. | 为国家首都服务。 |
| 22 | It also controls most of the international air traffic of the | 它还控制了美国空军的大部分国际空中交通。 |
| 23 | country. | 国家。 |
| 24 | This airport has been very seriously damaged according to authorities. | 据当局称,该机场受到严重破坏。 |
| 25 | It has to be | 一定要这样 |
| 26 | closed for a while and there is concern that other parts of the country are going to also be | 暂时关闭,人们担心该国其他地区也将关闭。 |
| 27 | reporting the serious damages as more information becomes available. | 在获得更多信息后,报告严重损害情况。 |
| 28 | We understand something like a | 我们理解一些像 |
| 29 | quarter of the population needed urgent aid even before this natural disaster. | 在这场自然灾害之前,四分之一的人口需要紧急援助。 |
| 30 | Explain more about | 更解释一下 |
| 31 | that. | 那个 |
| 32 | Venezuela is still reeling from the difficulties of many years of economic chaos, | 委内瑞拉仍在摆脱多年经济混乱的困难, |
| 33 | you'd have to describe it that way, during the past Maduro administration. | 在马杜罗执政期间 你得用这种方式描述 |
| 34 | During that time of | 期间 |
| 35 | Venezuela suffered all kinds of economic problems. | 委内瑞拉经历了各种经济问题。 |
| 36 | It suffered hyperinflation and also a huge | 它遭受恶性通货膨胀 和巨大的 |
| 37 | outflow of migrants to other countries in Latin America and to other parts, to the US, to Europe. | 移民外流到拉丁美洲其他国家和其他地区、美国、欧洲。 |
| 38 | Again, one of the striking elements of this tragedy is so many Venezuelans abroad, millions | 这场悲剧的震撼因素之一 又是如此众多的委内瑞拉人 |
| 39 | of Venezuelans abroad, trying to come to terms with what happened and trying to find out about | 委内瑞拉海外人士试图了解真相, |
| 40 | their loved ones, of course. | 当然是他们的亲人 |
| 41 | So yes, Venezuela has been suffering a lot. | 因此,委内瑞拉遭受了很多苦难。 |
| 42 | It had been seen as | 它被视为 |
| 43 | relatively stabilizing its economy in more recent times, but still a very large part of the | 近代经济相对稳定,但仍是大部分 |
| 44 | population, as you say, suffering a very, very difficult condition, which is surely going to | 正如你所言,人民遭受着非常非常困难的境遇,这肯定会是: |
| 45 | become even more difficult to manage with this major tragedy that has happened in the country. | 在该国发生的这一重大悲剧变得更加困难。 |
| 46 | Well yes, as you said, very difficult conditions. | 嗯,是的,就像你说的, 非常困难的条件。 |
| 47 | What does it mean, do you think, for response to | 你觉得这是什么意思? |
| 48 | disaster on the ground? | 地面上的灾难? |
| 49 | That is going to be clearly a very big challenge for Venezuelan | 对委内瑞拉来说,这显然是一个巨大的挑战 |
| 50 | authorities. | 当局。 |
| 51 | Also, a tricky political situation that is that the country is facing, of course, | 而且,一个棘手的政治局势, 国家正面临,当然, |
| 52 | after the January military operation led by the US in which the former president Nicolás Maduro | 在前总统尼古拉斯·马杜罗领导的美国1月军事行动之后 |
| 53 | was removed from power. | 被解除权力。 |
| 54 | It is unclear exactly what kind of role the US is going to have in this | 目前还不清楚美国将扮演什么样的角色 |
| 55 | rescue operation. | 救援行动。 |
| 56 | Of course, President Trump has already said and other high-ranking US officials | 当然,川普总统已经说过 和其他美国高级官员 |
| 57 | have said that the US is going to offer a lot of support to Venezuela, but it is tricky, again, | 已经说过,美国将向委内瑞拉提供大量支持,但这又很棘手, |
| 58 | because of the political circumstance that the country is experiencing. | 由于该国的政治情况。 |
| 59 | The Trump administration said it had taken the deliberate decision when this January operation | 特朗普政府说,当这次1月的行动时,它已经作出慎重的决定. |
| 60 | took place of leaving a lot of officials and people close to the former administration in place, | 造成许多官员和人员离前政府很近, |
| 61 | because they said then, in January of this year, that if everyone was removed it would cause | 因为今年1月他们说 如果所有人都被带走了 |
| 62 | chaos, it would cause anarchy, so they needed to keep a lot of the government system in place, | 混乱,这会导致无政府状态, 所以他们需要 保持很多的政府系统, |
| 63 | the old government system in place, and this has created a very awkward situation in which a lot | 这造成了一个非常尴尬的局面 在很多 |
| 64 | people who had strong allegiance to the Maduro administration and, in fact, had been taught | 忠于马杜罗政府的人 事实上,他们受过教育 |
| 65 | to think of the United States as their main enemy and they had said for many years that the United | 他们多年来一直说美国 |
| 66 | States was their main enemy. | 国家是其主要敌人。 |
| 67 | Now, these are the people that the US would need to work with, | 这些是美国需要合作的人, |
| 68 | presumably, to try to get all the aid and to try to start the reconstruction process, so it is going | 可能,试图得到所有的援助 并试图启动重建进程, 所以它正在 |
| 69 | to be interesting and challenging, many observers are saying, to see how this actually works out | 许多观察家认为, |
| 70 | in practice when the US starts to send aid and try to help Venezuela in other ways. | 在实践中,美国开始提供援助,并试图以其他方式帮助委内瑞拉。 |
| 71 | Well, we should say that the US have already said that they are going to have a quick response. | 我们应该说,美国已经说过 他们将会得到迅速的响应。 |
| 72 | I mean, what is mostly needed now? | 现在最需要的是什么? |
| 73 | It is certainly, initially, there's, | 当然,一开始,有, |
| 74 | of course, a search and rescue operation going on. | 当然,搜救行动还在继续 |
| 75 | Venezuela has said that it has received many | 委内瑞拉说,它收到许多 |
| 76 | offers of aid, not only from the United States, from many other countries in Latin America and | 不仅美国、拉丁美洲其他许多国家和 |
| 77 | further afield, to try to find, of course, the many people who are still missing, the many, | 当然,为了找到仍然失踪的许多人 |
| 78 | many people who are still missing. | 许多人仍然失踪。 |
| 79 | Of course, we don't have a clear idea of the numbers yet, | 当然,我们还不清楚数字 |
| 80 | but certainly, the first hours, as in most tragedies of this kind, it is going to be a | 但是,当然,头几个小时, 像在大多数这种悲剧中, 它将是一个 |
| 81 | search and rescue operation. | 搜救行动。 |
| 82 | But then, in the months and even the years after, you're definitely | 但之后的几个月甚至几年里 你绝对是 |
| 83 | going to have to see a very big influx of capital, of technical know-how, of managerial know-how, | 必须看到资本、技术诀窍、管理诀窍的大量流入, |
| 84 | to try to rebuild the infrastructure, which surely has been very damaged during this | 试图重建基础设施,因为基础设施在这期间确实受到严重破坏。 |
| 85 | tragedy that has happened in Venezuela. | 委内瑞拉发生的悲剧。 |
| 86 | Well, President Trump, he has already promised | 川普总统,他已经答应了 |
| 87 | redevelopment money and reinvestment in the country, hasn't he? | 在国内再开发资金和再投资,不是吗? |
| 88 | I mean, how do you think | 我是说,你觉得怎么样? |
| 89 | this disaster might affect that? | 这场灾难会影响它吗? |
| 90 | Well, clearly, again, Venezuela is going to have more of a | 很明显,委内瑞拉将会有更多 |
| 91 | challenge in trying to redevelop its economic system with this tragedy. | 试图通过这场悲剧重新发展其经济体制。 |
| 92 | Of course, a lot of | 当然,很多 |
| 93 | the expectations of economic recovery in Venezuela during this very troubled year were centered | 委内瑞拉在此动荡的一年中经济复苏的希望以委内瑞拉为中心 |
| 94 | around the idea of the oil industry returning to its former glory. | 环绕着石油工业回归其过去辉煌的想法. |
| 95 | You know, Venezuela has the | 委内瑞拉有 |
| 96 | largest oil reserves, proven oil reserves in the world, but the oil industry was a shadow of itself | 世界上最大的石油储量 已经证明的石油储量 |
| 97 | in recent years because of all the mismanagement, all the political problems that the country had | 近年来,由于所有管理不善、国家存在的所有政治问题, |
| 98 | faced. | 面对。 |
| 99 | And there was a lot of hope in the idea that with the new political arrangement, there | 有了新的政治安排, |
| 100 | was going to be a lot of investment into the oil industry, which would have a positive impact for | 将会对石油工业产生积极的影响 |
| 101 | the international economy, of course, but mainly for Venezuelans. | 当然,国际经济,但主要是委内瑞拉人。 |
| 102 | The idea that this was going to | 这个想法是要 |
| 103 | be the main source of rebuilding their country after all these years of economic unrest and | 成为这些年来经济动荡之后重建国家的主要来源, |
| 104 | political unrest. | 政治动荡。 |
| 105 | Now, it's going to be probably harder. | 现在,它可能会更难。 |
| 106 | Now, it is said that the oil infrastructure, | 据说石油基础设施 |
| 107 | there is not a lot of information of direct hits on the oil infrastructure. | 对石油基础设施的直接打击信息不多。 |
| 108 | Actually, a lot of the | 其实,很多 |
| 109 | oil facilities were in other parts of the country that apparently were not as directly hit by the | 石油设施在该国其他地区显然没有受到直接打击。 |
| 110 | earthquake. | 地震发生. |
| 111 | But certainly, I mean, starting from the very, very basic situation in which a lot of | 但当然,我是说,从非常,非常基本的情况开始, 在很多 |
| 112 | the communications of the country are not working, the international airport seemed very damaged. | 国际机场似乎严重受损, |
| 113 | So, | 这么说 |
| 114 | of course, this is going to create additional pressures, additional challenges for Venezuelans | 当然,这将给委内瑞拉人带来更多的压力,更多的挑战 |
| 115 | who have not had an easy time by any means in the last few years. | 在过去几年中,他们没有任何轻松的时间。 |
| 116 | You're describing, Luis, a very | 你在描述,路易斯,一个非常 |
| 117 | troubled country. | 烦恼之国. |
| 118 | Now we have a natural disaster. | 现在我们有一场自然灾害。 |
| 119 | As you said, the economy is in dire straits. | 正如你说的,经济陷入困境。 |
| 120 | And | 还有 |
| 121 | there are also calls for free and fair elections. | 也有人呼吁举行自由和公正的选举。 |
| 122 | Do you think that's going to be turbocharged by | 你觉得这会不会被 |
| 123 | what's happening, that people want to have a say in what happens going forward after this disaster? | 发生什么了? 人们想在这场灾难之后 有发言权吗? |
| 124 | Certainly, in January, just after the removal of Nicolás Maduro, there was a lot of expectation | 当然,在1月,就在尼科拉斯·马杜罗被清除之后,人们寄予厚望。 |
| 125 | that a lot of change was going to happen in Venezuela very quickly. | 委内瑞拉将很快发生许多变化。 |
| 126 | The people were seeing | 人们看到 |
| 127 | the prospect of new elections happening soon, of the release of all political prisoners, a return | 即将举行新选举、释放所有政治犯、回归的前景 |
| 128 | to the democratic normality that the country once had. | 国家曾经的民主常态。 |
| 129 | This has not taken place. | 这还没有发生。 |
| 130 | Of course, | 当然 |
| 131 | the Trump administration has been saying that it has to work very gradually and very carefully to | 川普政府一直说,它必须非常缓慢和非常谨慎地开展工作,以便 |
| 132 | maintain the stability of the system. | 保持系统的稳定。 |
| 133 | So, it has been frustrating for many Venezuelans without a | 对许多委内瑞拉人来说, |
| 134 | doubt that there have been no direct announcements of imminent presidential elections. | 怀疑没有直接宣布即将举行总统选举。 |
| 135 | And the very | 和非常 |
| 136 | fact that the acting president of Venezuela, Del C. Rodriguez, who was a very prominent member | 委内瑞拉代理总统Del C. Rodriguez是一位非常杰出的成员, |
| 137 | of the previous government, she's still in charge. | 前任政府,她仍然负责。 |
| 138 | The Trump administration has often said that they | 川普政府经常说 |
| 139 | are working very well with her, that they're very happy with this arrangement. | 他们很满意这个安排 |
| 140 | So, a lot of Venezuelans | 很多委内瑞拉人 |
| 141 | were thinking, when is this actually going to happen? | 我在想,这什么时候会发生? |
| 142 | When are we going to move to the next stage | 我们什么时候才能进入下一阶段 |
| 143 | of the normalization of the country? | 国家正常化? |
| 144 | And certainly, with this tragedy, I imagine that many people will | 当然,在这场悲剧中,我想很多人会 |
| 145 | be also saying, we need political change in Venezuela. | 还要说,我们需要委内瑞拉的政治变革。 |
| 146 | And that is what they have been asking | 这就是他们一直要求的 |
| 147 | for. | 为. |
| 148 | And there's certainly going to be pressure on the U.S. government to continue and maybe | 美国政府肯定会有压力 继续,也许 |
| 149 | accelerate this path towards a democratic system in Venezuela. | 加快委内瑞拉走向民主制度的道路。 |
| 150 | What about the response on the ground | 当地的反应如何 |
| 151 | from the Venezuelan authorities themselves to these earthquakes? | 从委内瑞拉当局到这些地震? |
| 152 | Is it effective? | 有效吗? |
| 153 | Venezuela, | 委内瑞拉 |
| 154 | as we've been discussing, has had a very, very trouble the last few years. | 正如我们一直在讨论的, 在过去几年里遇到了非常非常非常麻烦。 |
| 155 | And one of the things | 还有一件事 |
| 156 | that has often been said, even before this tragedy, was the lack of capacity of the Venezuelan state | 委内瑞拉国家缺乏能力, |
| 157 | to respond to many needs of the citizenship. | 满足公民的许多需要。 |
| 158 | After so many years of troubles, a lot of state | 经过这么多年的烦恼, 很多州 |
| 159 | institutions are seen as not working very well. | 各机构的工作表现不佳。 |
| 160 | So, there's a lot of anxiety about how effective | 所以,有很多的焦虑 关于如何有效 |
| 161 | the immediate response is going to be undertaken by the Venezuelan government. | 委内瑞拉政府将立即作出反应。 |
| 162 | Certainly, a lot of | 当然,很多 |
| 163 | difficulties. | 困难 |
| 164 | Again, communications are very badly affected. | 同样,通信也受到严重影响。 |
| 165 | Even before this, Venezuela was a country | 之前委内瑞拉就是一个国家 |
| 166 | that faced very frequent power outages, things like that. | 经常发生断电之类的事 |
| 167 | And I imagine with the hit of the | 我想象着... |
| 168 | earthquake, it's going to be even more challenging. | 地震会更具有挑战性 |
| 169 | So, a lot of doubts of how the Venezuelan | 所以,很多关于委内瑞拉人的怀疑 |
| 170 | government and state authorities are going to respond to this tragedy. | 政府和州当局将对这一悲剧作出反应。 |
| 171 | They certainly, again, | 他们肯定,再次, |
| 172 | are asking for international help. | 请求国际帮助。 |
| 173 | A lot of countries are offering it, and they most likely | 很多国家都在提供,他们很可能 |
| 174 | will be needing a lot of it in the next few weeks and even months. | 在接下来的几周甚至几个月里 需要很多钱 |
| 175 | Thanks, Louis. | 谢谢 刘易斯 |
| 176 | That was Louis Fajardo there. | 那是路易斯・法杰多 |
| 177 | If you want to hear more on this story, just listen | 如果你想听更多关于这个故事,只要听 |
| 178 | to our Global News podcast. | 我们的全球新闻播客。 |
| 179 | Click on the link below. | 点击以下链接 。 |
| 180 | But that's it from this edition of the | 但从这个版本 |
| 181 | Global News podcast here on YouTube. | 全球新闻播客在这里的YouTube。 |
| 182 | Thanks for listening. | 谢谢你的倾听。 |
| 183 | Thanks for watching. | 谢谢你的观看。 |
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