【牛津辩论】君主制随着女王的离世而终结？ 20260806

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0:01	The motion for tonight's debate is this House believes the monarchy died with the Queen.	今晚辩论的动议是,本院认为君主制与女王同归于尽.
0:07	首先谈提案的是常委Matteo Brunel。
0:23	Madam President, members of this House and distinguished guests,	主席女士,本院各位议员和贵宾,
0:29	thank you for the opportunity to speak here tonight.	谢谢你今晚能在这里发言
0:33	I'd like to begin by introducing tonight's opposition.	我首先要介绍一下今晚的反对意见。
0:37	First, the Union's own Schools Outreach Officer, Isabelle McElvaney,	首先,联盟自己的学校外联干事伊莎贝尔·麦克埃尔瓦尼,
0:43	originally from Sheffield, England.	最初来自英国谢菲尔德.
0:46	Isabelle has made it out to study at the best college in Oxford, Christchurch College.	伊莎贝尔来到牛津最好的学院,克里斯特彻奇学院学习.
0:51	An English woman studying English at an English university,	在英国大学学习英语的英国女性
0:54	let's see if she can keep her bias out of the discussion talking about the English crown.	让我们看看她能不能避免她的偏见在谈论英国王冠。

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1	The motion for tonight's debate is this House believes the monarchy died with the Queen.	今晚辩论的动议是,本院认为君主制与女王同归于尽.
2	首先谈提案的是常委Matteo Brunel。
3	Madam President, members of this House and distinguished guests,	主席女士,本院各位议员和贵宾,
4	thank you for the opportunity to speak here tonight.	谢谢你今晚能在这里发言
5	I'd like to begin by introducing tonight's opposition.	我首先要介绍一下今晚的反对意见。
6	First, the Union's own Schools Outreach Officer, Isabelle McElvaney,	首先,联盟自己的学校外联干事伊莎贝尔·麦克埃尔瓦尼,
7	originally from Sheffield, England.	最初来自英国谢菲尔德.
8	Isabelle has made it out to study at the best college in Oxford, Christchurch College.	伊莎贝尔来到牛津最好的学院,克里斯特彻奇学院学习.
9	An English woman studying English at an English university,	在英国大学学习英语的英国女性
10	let's see if she can keep her bias out of the discussion talking about the English crown.	让我们看看她能不能避免她的偏见在谈论英国王冠。
11	Second, we have Lady Colin Campbell, New York Times bestselling author and royal biographer.	第二,我们有科林·坎贝尔夫人纽约时报畅销作家和皇家传记作家
12	Born in Jamaica, raised between two continents,	出生在牙买加两大洲之间
13	and is now Britain's foremost authority on the royal family.	并且现在是英国在王室中最重要的权威
14	She has written so many books that I am sure that the royals in Buckingham Palace	她写了很多书,我相信白金汉宫的皇室
15	have a bookshelf dedicated just to her.	有个书架献给她
16	And third, we have Mr. Hugo Vickers, writer, broadcaster,	第三我们有雨果·维克斯先生编剧广播员
17	and a man so deeply embedded in royal circles that he must have access	一个深深扎根于王室圈子的人
18	to all the secret doors and secret tunnels of Buckingham Palace.	白金汉宫的秘密门和隧道
19	He has spent decades carefully documenting the monarchy's history,	他花了几十年仔细记录了君主制的历史
20	which tonight we will be politely dismantling.	今晚我们将礼貌地拆卸
21	We appreciate the groundwork, Hugo, consider it research for our side.	雨果,我们赞赏基础工作,认为它为我们一方进行研究。
22	And finally, Mr. Dickey, arbiter, LVO,	最后,迪基先生, 仲裁人,LVO,
23	former royal press secretary to Queen Elizabeth II.	前伊丽莎白二世女王的皇家新闻秘书.
24	When the palace needed to speak to the world, they called Dickey,	当宫殿需要向世界说话时他们叫狄基
25	which means he is professionally trained in defending the indefensible.	也就是说他受过专业训练以捍卫无法辩护的人
26	So he'll be very good at this.	所以他会很擅长的
27	We're watching you, Dickey.	我们在监视你,迪克
28	On this team, they have more royal knowledge than anyone else in these chambers,	在这个团队中,他们拥有的王室知识比这些会议厅里任何人都多,
29	and yet tonight we will systematically prove them wrong anyway.	但今晚我们还是会系统地证明他们错了
30	Please welcome side opposition.	请欢迎侧面反对。
31	Now, I have a confession to make.	现在,我有一个忏悔。
32	I'm an American.	我是美国人
33	And I know what you're thinking, of course the American wants to abolish the monarchy.	我知道你在想什么当然美国人想废除君主制
34	How terribly predictable of him to come to Oxford into England	他到牛津去英国是多么可预测
35	and to tell the British what to do with their own institutions.	并告诉英国如何对待自己的机构。
36	But here's the thing.	但问题是
37	I didn't cross the Atlantic to lecture you.	我穿越大西洋不是为了教训你
38	I came here because this debate matters, not just to Britain,	我来这里是因为这场辩论很重要不仅仅是英国
39	but to every person in the world who believes that how a country is governed	但对于世界上每一个相信国家如何治理的人来说
40	itself is a statement of its values.	它本身就是对其价值的一种表述。
41	And besides, y'all Brits love to give us Americans unsolicited advice,	而且,你们英国人都喜欢给我们美国人主动的建议,
42	so consider it my way of returning the favor.	所以,把它视为我的方式回报的帮助。
43	Let me start with the honesty that the opposition will not offer you.	我首先要说的是,反对派不会提供你的诚实。
44	Literally speaking, no, the monarchy did not die with the Queen.	从字面上说,不,君主制并没有与女王一同灭亡.
45	King Charles III sits on the throne and the pageantry continues.	国王查理三世坐在王位上,选美继续.
46	But that's not the real question.	但这不是真正的问题。
47	The real question, the polemical, moral, and frankly political question, is this.	真正的问题,论战论,道德,坦率的政治问题,就是这个.
48	Did the idea of the monarchy, the legitimacy of the monarchy,	君主制君主制的合法性
49	did that die with Queen Elizabeth II?	和伊丽莎白二世王后一起死的吗?
50	And I submit to you tonight that it did,	今晚我向你们表示,
51	and that Britain would be better served by burying the institution alongside with it.	如果把机构与它并肩埋葬,将会更好地为英国服务。
52	Now here's a thought experiment the opposition might find a little uncomfortable.	现在有一个想法实验反对派可能会觉得有点不舒服
53	Let's imagine that it was not Charles who rose to the throne in 2022,	假设不是查尔斯在2022年登基
54	but rather his brother Andrew, former Prince Andrew, Duke of York,	但他的弟弟安德鲁前安德鲁王子约克公爵
55	the man whose association with Jeffrey Epstein was so toxic,	他和杰弗里·爱泼斯坦的关系如此毒
56	so indefensible that the palace stripped him of all his royal titles,	故宫剥夺了他所有皇室头衔
57	military ranks, and royal duties.	军衔和王室职责
58	That man was a heartbeat from the throne.	那个人是王位上的心跳
59	Even King Charles is not much better with his refusal to abide by democratic norms	连查尔斯国王也不愿遵守民主准则
60	and his insertion of his views into policy debates.	将他的意见纳入政策辩论。
61	As Prince of Wales, King Charles was an active lobbyist,	作为威尔士亲王,查尔斯国王是一个积极的说客,
62	frequently bypassing the tradition of royal neutrality	经常绕过王室中立的传统
63	to personally lobby government ministers on various issues	就各种问题亲自游说政府部长
64	from agricultural policies to military equipment.	从农业政策到军事装备。
65	And of course, let us not forget his catastrophic treatment of Princess Diana.	当然,让我们不要忘记他对戴安娜公主的灾难性待遇。
66	Are you comfortable with that?	你满意吗?
67	Are you truly prepared to argue that the correct way for a modern democracy	你是否真的准备说现代民主的正确方式
68	to select its head of state is to roll the dice on the biology of succession?	选择其国家元首就是在继承的生物学上掷骰子?
69	Because that is precisely what a hereditary monarchy asks you to accept.	因为这是世袭君主要求你接受的
70	Not the best candidate, not the most qualified, simply whoever is next.	不是最优秀的候选人,也不是最合格的候选人, 仅仅是下一个人选。
71	And let us be clear about what this institution actually costs.	让我们明确这个机构的实际成本。
72	Of course, the British taxpayer, as many of you I'm sure are aware,	当然,英国纳税人, 正如你们中许多人,我相信,
73	the British taxpayer directly subsidizes the crown through tens of millions of pounds annually.	英国纳税人每年直接补贴王冠数千万英镑。
74	That is public money in a country going through a national health crisis	这是正在经历国家卫生危机的国家的公共资金
75	with crumbling public services that is spent on this idea of a monarchy.	与崩溃的公共服务花费在这个思想君主制。
76	But the financial cost is only the beginning.	但财政成本仅仅是开始。
77	The deeper one, the deeper cost, is one of attention.	更深层的,更深层的成本,是关注的一个.
78	Britain has had six prime ministers in the past decade	过去十年来英国有六位首相
79	and will probably have another one soon.	并且可能很快就会有另一个。
80	The UK's borrowing costs have surged, growth has stagnated,	英国的借贷成本暴涨增长停滞
81	and yet a significant portion of the national conversation	以及全国对话的相当一部分
82	is consumed by the comings and goings of the royal family,	被皇室的来去所消耗,
83	typically the things leading England into disgrace.	典型的东西引领英格兰陷入耻辱。
84	England, I say to you plainly, you do not have the time.	英国,我告诉你,你没有时间。
85	There are too many pressing and urgent social issues, economic and military problems,	紧迫的社会问题、经济和军事问题太多,
86	to be perpetually distracted by an institution that generates more scandal than service.	永远被一个制造更多丑闻而不是服务的机构分心
87	The monarchy is not a luxury you can't afford.	君主制不是奢侈品你买不起的
88	But I want to go deeper than money, national security, and logistics.	但我想比金钱、国家安全和后勤更深入。
89	Before he was executed for treason against the king in the 1600s,	在1600年代因叛国罪被处决之前
90	英国士兵Richard Rumbold 写了很多话
91	that no person is born with a saddle on their back,	任何人的背上都没有马鞍,
92	nor another born booted and spurned to ride them.	也不许别人出世地骑马。
93	Hundreds of years later, this principle still stands.	数百年后,这一原则仍然有效。
94	We arrive in this world not with crowns on our heads or perhaps shackles on our feet.	我们来到这个世界时,没有戴头冠或脚镣。
95	We arrive in this world politically equal.	我们到达这个政治上平等的世界。
96	Political equality is not a gift from a monarch.	政治平等不是君主的礼物.
97	It is our natural inheritance.	这是我们的自然遗产。
98	In America, we settled this question a quarter millennia ago.	在美国,我们解决了这个问题四分之一千年前。
99	We settled the principle that the head of state must be accountable to the people,	我们确定了国家元首必须对人民负责的原则,
100	answerable by law, and replaceable by democratic will.	由法律负责,由民主意志取代。
101	Britain, with all of its history and great universities, like this one,	英国,所有的历史和伟大的大学, 像这个,
102	is a little late to the conclusion.	有点迟了
103	We have been waiting for 250 years.	我们等待了250年。
104	The doors open.	门开着
105	Come join the modern world.	来加入现代世界吧
106	Now, I know the opposition will tell you that the monarchy is woven into English identity,	我知道反对派会告诉你君主制被编织成英国人的身份
107	that it provides continuity, soft power, and maybe even some tourism revenue.	它提供了连续性,软实力,甚至一些旅游收入。
108	That is what makes Britain, Britain.	这就是英国,英国。
109	I take this argument seriously.	我认真对待这个论点。
110	But colonialism and imperialism were also once tightly woven into English identity.	但殖民主义和帝国主义也曾经被紧密地编织成英国的身份.
111	And the British people, for the most part, have given that up	英国人民大多放弃了
112	because they understood that clinging to an institution because of its familiarity	因为他们明白坚持一个机构因为熟悉
113	is not sufficient reason enough to preserve it when the costs outweigh the benefits	当成本超过收益时,没有充分的理由保留它。
114	and when it contradicts the values you claim to hold.	当它与你声称持有的价值观相矛盾时
115	The monarchy is deep in the English character, and I accept that.	君主制对英国人的性格很深,我接受.
116	But character is not destiny, and nostalgia is not policy.	但性格不是命运,怀旧也不是政策.
117	The emotional attachment to the crown is real, and I do not mock it.	对王冠的情感依恋是真实的,我不嘲笑它.
118	But emotions are not facts, and at this historic union, we deal in facts.	但情感不是事实,在这个历史性的结合中,我们处理的是事实.
119	So what is England to do without a monarch?	那么没有君主,英格兰该怎么办?
120	I believe that Britain deserves a head of state, an elected one,	我相信英国应该有一位国家元首一个民选的
121	chosen by the people, and accountable to the people.	由人民选择,并对人民负责。
122	The people should vote whether this head of state is combined	人民应该投票决定这个国家元首是否合并
123	with the head of the executive branch, like in the US,	与行政部门的负责人, 像在美国,
124	or perhaps separate, perhaps like in Germany.	或可能单独,也许像在德国。
125	Britain is a good country, and it is a proud country.	英国是一个好国家,它是一个骄傲的国家.
126	It is also a country in a moment of genuine, serious crisis,	它也是一个处于真正、严重危机中的国家,
127	and it cannot afford to paper over that crisis with royal pageantry.	而且它不能用皇家的选美来形容危机。
128	Madam President, the monarchy did not die in a physical sense	总统女士,君主制不是在肉体上死去的
129	when the Queen was laid to rest at Windsor.	当女王在温莎安息的时候
130	But the idea that sustained it, the idea that one family, by divine right,	但维持它的想法, 一个家庭,根据神圣的权利,
131	should stand apart and above the citizenry, that idea died, or it should have.	那种想法应该脱离和超越公民,或者应该放弃。
132	And it is our responsibility to say so.	我们有责任这样说。
133	The British people deserve a head of state they select, not one they were assigned.	英国人民应该有他们选择的国家元首,而不是他们被指派的国家元首。
134	They deserve a national conversation focused on the urgent work	他们应该以紧急工作为重点进行全国性对话。
135	of building a country for the 21st century.	为21世纪建设一个国家。
136	What comes next should be chosen, not inherited, not assumed,	接下来应该选择而不是继承也不是假设
137	not rolled into being by the accident of birth.	不是因为出生的意外而变成的
138	Abolish the monarchy.	废除君主制.
139	Thank you.	谢谢
140	Thank you very much for that speech, Matteo.	非常感谢你的演讲马特奥
141	I now call upon the first speaker on side, opposition, Isabelle McLevenny, senior appointed.	我现在请第一位在座的、反对者、资深的伊莎贝尔·麦克莱文尼发言。
142	Thank you for having me today, Madam President,	谢谢你今天邀请我,主席女士,
143	and thank you to the House for taking the time to listen to me.	并且感谢您在众议院花时间听我的。
144	Now, in the Union, I am the school's outreach officer.	现在,在联盟,我是学校的外联官员。
145	I'm very used to explaining debates to many, many lovely schools,	我非常习惯向许多可爱的学校解释辩论
146	some of whom we have in here tonight.	今晚我们这里有人
147	If they'd like to give me a wave, I'd love that.	如果他们想给我一波,我很乐意。
148	Amazing.	厉害
149	And I'm used to explaining motions to them,	我习惯了向他们解释动议
150	but never have I had to explain a motion to somebody speaking before.	但我从来没有解释过一个动议有人发言之前。
151	The motion was, this House believes the monarchy died with the Queen,	该动议是,本院相信君主制与女王同归于尽,
152	not this House believes the monarchy should have died with the Queen.	而不是本院认为君主制应该与女王同归于尽.
153	Had that been the case, I would have spoken on proposition, but I am not.	如果是这样的话,我本来会就提议发言的,但我不是。
154	Anyway, I present to you Matteo.	总之,我向你介绍Matteo。
155	He is a UPenn graduate and now an MBA at Christchurch.	他是乌本大学的毕业生,现在是克赖斯特彻奇大学的MBA.
156	This is a House v House debate.	这是众议院辩论会
157	We also have Anna Passenach doing the same,	我们还让安娜·帕森纳赫也这样做
158	but I can't possibly think of anything else damning to say about the man.	但我想不出还有什么可说的人。
159	Next up, we have Harry Stratton.	接下来是哈里·斯特拉顿
160	He recently ran for Chancellor, commanding 1.6% of the vote,	他最近竞选总理, 获得1.6%的选票,
161	which was measly against my 2.1% in my recent Secchies election,	与我的2.1%相比, 在最近的 Secchies 选举中,
162	which I also binned.	我也有这个想法
163	Next up, we have Anna Passenach.	接下来是安娜·帕森纳赫
164	She is a royal biographer and radio commentator.	她是一位皇家传记作家和无线电评论家.
165	She also went to Christchurch,	她也去了克赖斯特彻奇
166	but I hope in this case the House does not always win.	但我希望,在这种情况下,众议院并不总是赢。
167	And next up, we have Peter Tatchellan, who told me in the dinner beforehand	接下来是彼得·塔特切尔兰他在晚餐前告诉我的
168	that he has spoken at the Union 30 times since 1983,	他从1983年起在工会讲了30次
169	but been arrested for 104 times.	但被逮捕了104次。
170	Ladies and gentlemen, we have a hero in our midst.	女士们先生们我们中间有个英雄
171	Can we please have a round of applause?	我们能鼓掌一下吗?
172	Now, the proposition will try to argue many things,	现在,这个提议会试图争论很多事情,
173	some of which are more convincing and closer to the motion than others.	有些提案比其他提案更有说服力,更接近动议。
174	However, the three things that I thought the proposition would try to argue	然而,我认为这三件事将会试图争论
175	is that first, they will try to argue that the monarchy has entirely lost	首先,他们会试图争论君主制已经完全失去了
176	its practical power regarding legislation	在立法方面的实际权力
177	and that the ideas that a powerful monarch once sits on the throne	而一个强大的君主曾经坐在王位上的想法
178	is outdated and archaic.	已经过时和过时。
179	Next, they will attempt to suggest that the monarchy has become modernised.	接下来,他们会试图暗示君主制已经现代化.
180	They may even have the nerve to suggest that our new bottom family	他们甚至有勇气暗示我们的新家庭
181	works as a positive force for social and economic good in our society,	作为促进我国社会社会和经济福祉的积极力量,
182	thus making the modern monarch a true servant of the English country	使现代君主成为英国真正的仆人
183	rather than a birthright ruler.	而不是天生的统治者
184	Finally, they will attempt to convince you that the ritual displays of power	最后,他们会试图说服你, 仪式显示权力
185	and ceremony that we see from the crown are symbolic	我们从皇冠上看到的仪式是象征性的
186	and have no real significant impact on us in modern-day society.	对我们现代社会没有真正的重大影响。
187	I regret to inform the House that these claims are not only incorrect,	我遗憾地通知众议院,这些主张不仅是不正确的,
188	but also have the power to be both malicious and dangerous.	也有恶意和危险的力量
189	Madam President, I would like to take the time to investigate this	主席女士,我想花时间调查一下
190	in a thorough manner in order to prove that the monarchy did not die	为了证明君主制没有死
191	with the eventual goal of seeing you all defiantly walk out	最终目标就是看到你们都赤裸裸地走出去
192	of the right-hand side of that door.	门的右侧。
193	Now, I am not naive enough to refuse to accept that the power of the monarchy	现在,我还不够天真拒绝接受君主制的权力
194	has of course dwindled significantly across the course of history.	当然,在整个历史过程中已经大幅缩减。
195	As a medieval studies student myself, let me assure you that I do know	作为中世纪学生我向你保证我知道
196	the power of the English monarch is not what it once was.	英国君主的权力不是从前那样的
197	However, to suggest that the English crown has no potential power	然而,暗示英国王冠没有潜在力量
198	over governance and parliamentary procedure is as just as myopic	治理与议会程序
199	as me standing before you trying to persuade you that His Majesty	作为我站在你面前试图说服你陛下
200	creates new decrees every day subject to his fancy.	每天根据他的花样制定新的法令。
201	At the risk of sounding overly simplistic, the British monarchy is not dead	冒着过于简单化的风险,英国君主制并没有死
202	because we do in fact still have one.	因为事实上我们还有
203	Since his accession to the throne in 2022, King Charles	自从他于2022年登基以来查尔斯国王
204	has given royal assent by commission to over 120 Acts of Parliament.	通过委员会批准了120多项议会法案。
205	It is important to note that he has refused none.	必须指出,他没有拒绝任何要求。
206	In fact, I am pleased to inform you that the last time a monarch	事实上,我很高兴地告诉你, 最后一次君主
207	refused the royal assent was 1708, 318 years ago.	在1708年,即318年前拒绝皇室的许可
208	However, whilst it is evidently unlikely a monarch would intervene	然而,虽然显然君主不可能干预
209	in the parliamentary proceedings in order to act against the wishes	以违背意愿的方式采取行动
210	of our country's elected officials, it is not impossible.	我们国家当选的官员们并非不可能
211	A sitting monarch in this country is able to exert their royal prerogative	这个国家的君主可以行使他们的王室特权
212	to block an act of parliamentary bill whenever they wish.	随时阻止议会法案的通过
213	This would of course create a constitutional nightmare	这当然会造成宪法上的恶梦
214	and hopefully one that I hope to never see.	希望我从未见过的
215	Forcing parliament to strip the sitting monarch of his powers	强迫议会剥夺现任君主的权力
216	or meaning the monarch would have the power to dissolve parliament	或者意味着君主有权解散议会
217	until he found one he agreed with.	直到他找到一个他同意的。
218	Now, whilst this hasn't happened in 300 years as I said,	现在,虽然这已经300年没有发生正如我说的,
219	the threat of power being exerted still classifies as holding power.	所施加的权力威胁仍然被归类为拥有权力。
220	We therefore cannot necessarily ascertain how much of our legislation	因此,我们不一定确定我们的立法有多少
221	has been shaped in accordance with the hopes of appealing to a monarch	已经按照呼吁君主的希望而形成
222	and their commissioners.	和他们的委员。
223	Therefore proving that as long as a monarch sits on the English throne,	因此证明只要一个君主坐在英国王位上
224	the power of the monarchy will still exist.	君主制的权力依然存在.
225	I would like next to preempt attempts from the proposition	接下来,我想先从这个提议中先发制人
226	to try to tell you that the institution of British monarchy	试图告诉你英国君主制的制度
227	is a force for good and that the economic and social good	是一种有利于善良的力量,有利于经济和社会。
228	they are presented as doing is the same as the institution	它们被描述为与机构一样的行为
229	having died with the Queen.	和王后一起牺牲了
230	It is not and any attempts to soften its appearance with Channel 5 documentaries,	它不是,任何试图软化它的外观第5频道纪录片,
231	国王的Instagram卷轴演奏 ukulele
232	or philanthropic charities set up in the name of former monarchs	或以前君主名义设立的慈善机构
233	are not attempts to modernise the monarchy.	并不是试图使君主制现代化。
234	They are just attempts to disguise the power it holds.	他们只是试图掩盖它所拥有的权力。
235	One cannot modernise a monarchy without changing	不改变君主制就不能现代化
236	the power of structure of society.	社会结构的力量。
237	Again, as long as a monarch sits on the English throne,	再次,只要一个君主坐在英国王位上,
238	we will have an English monarchy whether we like it or not.	无论我们喜不喜欢,我们都会有英国君主制
239	The proposition will attempt to sell you on the belief	这个提议会试图出卖你的信仰
240	that the monarchy is not a powerful institution	君主制不是一个强大的体制
241	but a tourist attraction that we export as a nation.	但我们作为一个国家出口的旅游景点。
242	And whilst I understand how easy it is to be dazzled by numbers	虽然我明白被数字闪烁是多么容易
243	such as 60 million pounds in tourism revenue from royal estates	例如皇家庄园的6 000万英镑旅游收入
244	and a theorised 550 million more pounds	另有5亿5千万英镑
245	from indirect tourism according to the RSA,	根据登记册系统管理人,
246	money cannot erase the institutional power of the English monarchy	金钱不能抹去英国君主制的体制权力
247	no matter how hard they might try.	不管他们怎么努力
248	In fact, is it not the money the monarchy makes our country?	事实上,这难道不是君主制给我们国家带来的金钱吗?
249	Is that living proof that the monarchy in fact still exists	这是活生生的证明君主制实际上仍然存在
250	and holds economic power in our country today?	并拥有经济实力在我国今天?
251	With the death of the late Queen Elizabeth II	随着已故女王伊丽莎白二世的去世
252	and the coronation of King Charles,	和查尔斯国王的加冕礼,
253	both saw a significant spike in the tourism revenue of the country.	这两个国家的旅游收入都大幅上升。
254	That further proves that the English monarchy	这进一步证明了英国君主制
255	has a significant economic power over our country	拥有强大的经济实力
256	whether we like it or not.	不管我们喜不喜欢
257	Finally, I would like to push back against the idea	最后,我想反弹这个想法
258	that the power of the monarchy is purely symbolic.	君主制的权力纯粹是象征性的。
259	It's paramount in conversations to remember	在对话中必须记住
260	that symbolic power is still power.	象征力量仍然是力量
261	At the risk of going all English on you,	冒着所有英语攻击你的风险
262	I would like to reference some reading.	我想提及一些读物。
263	Baudrillard defines symbolic power as a hidden capacity	Baudrillard 将象征力量定义为隐藏能力
264	to shape reality, what we consider to be normal	塑造现实,什么是我们认为正常的
265	and the ability to reinforce social hierarchies	加强社会等级的能力
266	without physical or economic coercion.	不受身体或经济胁迫。
267	I would like to argue that to live in a society	我想说,生活在一个社会
268	where we watch ceremonies in which one bloodline	在那里,我们观看仪式在一个血脉
269	is raised above the breast based off of a divine right	由神圣的右手在胸前升起
270	reinforces an uncomfortable hierarchy of power.	强化了一种不舒服的权力等级。
271	Coronation rituals and state openings of parliament	冕礼和州议会开幕
272	are not simply a nod to 13th century England	不仅仅是点头到13世纪的英格兰
273	but also reinforce reminders of the devastating impacts	但也强化了对破坏性影响的提醒。
274	that the crown has had of the symbol of colonialism	皇冠拥有殖民主义的象征
275	and empire over its history.	和帝国的历史。
276	To continually remind countries both in and out of the commonwealth	不断提醒自由邦内外的国家
277	of an oppression and invasion is not the same	压迫和入侵是不一样的
278	as allowing a monarchy to die with the Queen.	就像允许君主与女王同归于尽
279	It is instead a re-exertion of actual power	而是重新行使实际权力
280	disguised as historic ceremony and tradition.	伪装成历史仪式和传统
281	Therefore, I believe this proves that the institution	因此,我认为这证明了这个机构
282	of the British monarchy did not die with the Queen,	英国君主没有死在女王身边
283	whether we like it or not.	不管我们喜不喜欢
284	I would also like to argue that any attempts by the proposition	我还想指出,该提议的任何企图,都有可能是:
285	to make you believe it did at best come from a place of ignorance	让你相信它确实来自无知的地方
286	and at worst act as an attempt to institutional gaslighting.	更糟糕的是,它试图在体制上消毒
287	Madam President, the English monarchy is alive	总统女士,英国君主制还活着
288	and we're ready today, whether I like it or not.	今天我们准备好了不管我喜不喜欢
289	Here lies my case for the opposition.	我为反对派辩护。
290	Thank you very much for that speech, Isabel.	非常感谢你的演讲伊莎贝尔
291	I now call upon the second speaker on proposition, Harry Stratton.	我现在请关于提案的第二位发言者哈利·斯特拉顿发言。
292	Well, good day everyone.	祝大家好运
293	Look, the story of this island is the story of ordinary people	你看,这个岛的故事是普通人的故事
294	fighting for democracy, from the Magna Carta	争取民主,大宪章
295	to the Great Reform Act to the suffragettes	《大改革法》中的选举制度
296	who laid down their lives for an equal vote and an equal voice.	他们为平等的投票权和平等的发言权献出了生命。
297	Republicanism is the next step in our island's story.	共和主义是我们岛屿故事的下一步.
298	We're going to rip out the feudalism at the heart of our society	我们要把封建主义撕成社会的核心
299	and make a country where every person is born equal.	并建立一个人人天生平等的国家。
300	Tonight, I'm going to make three points.	今晚,我要说三点
301	First, what real democracy looks like.	首先,真正的民主是什么样子。
302	Second, how we're going to save the royals from themselves.	二是如何自救诸王.
303	And third, to put this bullshit about tourism to bed.	第三,把关于旅游的这些屁话放在床上。
304	So first, what a real democracy looks like.	首先,真正的民主是什么样子。
305	Look, in a real democracy,	听着,在一个真正的民主国家,
306	everyone is born equal.	每个人都天生平等
307	We don't do magic blood or magic semen.	我们不做魔法血液或魔法精液。
308	All of us have the opportunity to represent the island	我们都有机会代表这个岛
309	that we call home, and all of us have an equal say	我们称自己为家,我们大家都有平等的发言权
310	in choosing who our leader is.	选择谁是我们的领袖。
311	Madam President, as long as Britain has a royal family,	总统女士只要英国有王室
312	this country is not a real democracy.	这个国家不是一个真正的民主国家。
313	A family of billionaires do not speak	亿万富翁的家族不会说话
314	for a country where one in four children go hungry.	国家有四分之一的儿童挨饿。
315	A family whose fortune is ultimately built	一个财富最终建成的家庭
316	on slavery and colonialism	奴隶制和殖民主义问题特别报告员
317	does not speak for black and Asian Britain.	不代表英国黑人和亚洲人
318	And the head of one religion	一个宗教的首领
319	does not represent a modern, multicultural country.	不代表一个现代、多文化的国家。
320	We don't have to look that far	我们不必看那么远
321	to see what a real democracy looks like.	看看真正的民主是什么样子。
322	Just to our west, in Ireland, ordinary people	就在我们的西部,爱尔兰,普通人
323	choose who their president is, and they've chosen some great people.	选择谁是他们的总统, 他们选择了一些伟大的人。
324	Poets, gay rights campaigners, anti-apartheid activists.	诗人,同性恋权利运动者,反种族隔离活动家.
325	Not billionaires whose main hobbies	不是主要爱好的亿万富翁
326	are fox hunting and adultery.	猎狐和通奸
327	Now, look, there are 70 million people	听着,有七千万人
328	on this island, including all of you,	在这个岛上,包括你们所有人,
329	and I happen to think an awful lot of them	我碰巧想到他们很多
330	would make a great head of state.	这将是一个伟大的国家元首。
331	Now, probably one of these guys is going to ask,	现在,也许其中之一会问,
332	well, what about President Trump or President Nigel?	那川普总统还是奈杰尔总统呢?
333	Well, that's democracy.	这就是民主
334	The people make the ultimate decision, and the system says	人民做出最终决定系统说
335	that most of the time they get it right.	大多数时候他们都说对了
336	Lots of other countries elect their presidents,	很多其他国家选举他们的总统,
337	and I just don't believe that Britain is worse at democracy	我只是不相信英国在民主方面更糟糕
338	than all those other countries.	比所有其他国家都强
339	But the best part about a bad president is	但坏总统的最好之处是
340	that if you don't like them, you don't have to vote for them next time.	如果你不喜欢他们, 你不必投票给他们下次。
341	You can't get rid of a king who happens to be	你不能摆脱一个碰巧是的国王
342	a Nazi sympathiser.	一个纳粹共鸣者。
343	You can't get rid of a prince who pals around	你不能摆脱一个在周围结交的王子
344	with one of the world's most notorious pedophiles.	与世界上最臭名昭著的恋童癖者之一。
345	And we're going to come back to Uncle Jeffrey in a bit.	我们一会儿再去找杰弗里叔叔
346	Madam President, in the first presidential election,	主席女士,在第一次总统选举中,
347	Charles is more than welcome to run	查尔斯非常欢迎你跑
348	because he deserves an equal opportunity too.	因为他也应该得到平等机会。
349	But on this side, we're going to wipe the floor with him.	但是在这边我们要和他一起擦地板
350	Second point, saving the royals from themselves.	第二分,自救诸王.
351	Now, Madam President, Lady Colin Campbell can tell you a lot	现在,主席女士,科林夫人坎贝尔可以告诉你很多
352	about her time on I'm a Celebrity.	关于她的时间我是一个名人。
353	But the truth is, The Royal Family is the cruelest	但事实是皇室是最残酷的
354	reality TV show of all.	真人秀电视节目
355	No parent in this audience, in fact none of your parents,	没有父母在场,事实上你父母都没有
356	would want their child to be King of England.	希望他们的孩子成为英国国王
357	And we don't want that for William and George either.	我们也不想让威廉和乔治这样
358	It is creepy and weird that Charles	查尔斯太诡异了
359	wasn't allowed to marry Camilla because she wasn't a virgin.	因为卡米拉不是处女,所以不允许与她结婚.
360	Even though Charles was also not a virgin.	虽然查尔斯也不是处女
361	房子这边,我们是Camilla Parker Bowles队
362	because we believe that everyone should be allowed	因为我们相信每个人都应该被允许
363	to marry the person they love.	嫁给他们爱的人
364	Madam President, a reality TV show that caused one contestant	总统女士,一个真人秀导致一个参赛者
365	depression and suicidal ideation	抑郁症和自杀思想
366	would have been taken off the air years ago.	几年前就会被取消广播
367	But the Royal Reality TV show has done this	但皇家真人秀已经做了这个
368	not once, but twice.	不是一次,而是两次
369	On this side of the house, we are Team Diana Spencer.	房子这边我们是戴安娜·斯宾塞队的
370	And also, for what it's worth, we're Team Meghan Markle as well.	还有,不管怎样,我们也是梅根马克尔队的
371	Well, I mean these guys want to talk about history,	我是说这些人想谈历史
372	but history is repeating itself 30 years later.	但是30年后的历史正在重演。
373	We think people like Diana, like Meghan,	我们认为,像戴安娜, 像梅根,
374	like William, like George, should be allowed to live out	像威廉一样,像乔治一样,应该被允许生活
375	normal, happy lives.	正常快乐的生活
376	Because on that side of the house, they're all about pomp and ceremony.	因为在房子的那一面,他们都是关于浮夸和仪式的.
377	But on this side of the house, we actually think	但是在房子的这一边我们实际上认为
378	an ordinary life is a pretty extraordinary one.	普通的生活是相当不寻常的。
379	The Royals shouldn't be like pandas that were trying to breed	皇室不应该像熊猫那样想繁殖
380	in captivity, or like people trapped in a gilded cage.	或者像被困在金笼里的人
381	They should be free to pursue their talents and passions	他们应该可以自由地追求自己的才华和激情
382	and flaws just like the rest of us are.	和我们的缺点一样
383	William says that the happiest days of his life were when he was	威廉说,他一生中最快乐的时光是当他
384	an ambulance driver.	救护车司机
385	An air ambulance driver, rather.	是个空中救护车司机
386	And for what it's worth, we think he should be back in the saddle.	不管怎样我们认为他应该回到马鞍上
387	But there is a darker side,	但有一个更黑暗的一面,
388	Madam President, to the Royal Weirdness.	总统女士敬皇家怪胎
389	As Philip Larkin said, they fuck you up, your mum and dad.	正如Philip Larkin所说, 他们把你搞砸了,你的父母。
390	They may not mean to, but they do.	他们可能不是故意的,但他们有。
391	And if you tell a child that they're special,	如果你告诉一个孩子他们是特殊的,
392	if you tell a child that the rules don't apply to them,	如果你告诉一个孩子规则不适用于他们,
393	they will start to believe it.	他们会开始相信的
394	The monarchy is what created	君主制就是创造的
395	the monster who is the Andrew formerly known as Prince.	那个怪物是安德鲁曾被称为王子。
396	Andrew and his best mate, Geoffrey,	安德鲁和他最好的朋友杰弗里
397	were above the law for decades.	几十年来都凌驾于法律之上
398	The monarchy told him he was special.	君主国告诉他他很特别.
399	The monarchy protected him from scrutiny.	君主国保护他不受审查.
400	The monarchy might be sending me a shitty legal letter later.	君主可能以后会给我发一封烂法律信
401	But you don't have to ask me, because there's a specialist here.	但你不必问我因为这里有个专家
402	Dickie Arbiter是皇家新闻队的
403	When Andrew was arrested, Dickie said he was not surprised at all	安德鲁被捕时,迪克说他一点也不惊讶
404	and it was a long time coming.	时间很长
405	It's time for a public inquiry into what Charles and his team	是公开调查查尔斯和他的团队的时候了
406	knew about Prince Andrew and Geoffrey	知道安德鲁王子和杰弗里的事
407	and when they knew it.	当他们知道的时候
408	And in fact, Madam President, it was only when Republic said	实际上,主席女士,只是在共和国说
409	that we would privately prosecute Prince Andrew	我们私下起诉安德鲁王子
410	that Prince Andrew was arrested.	安德鲁王子被捕了
411	The police were shamed into acting and arresting him.	警察在采取行动和逮捕他时感到羞耻。
412	And they should have been ashamed.	他们应该感到羞愧
413	Madam President,	主席女士,
414	on this side of the House, we stand with Virginia, Geoffrey	我们和弗吉尼亚,杰佛瑞站在一起
415	and the other victims, because we think that in a democracy,	和其他受害者,因为我们认为在一个民主国家,
416	no one should be above the law.	没有人应该凌驾于法律之上。
417	So, third point, this nonsense about tourism.	第三点,关于旅游业的胡说八道。
418	This is a bit more lighthearted.	有点轻心
419	So look, these guys are going to pretend that there's all this	听着,这些人会假装有这一切
420	economic benefit from having a king and all this economic damage	拥有国王和所有这些经济损失,将带来经济利益
421	from becoming a republic.	从成为一个共和国。
422	It's the world's most boring argument and it's also just horseshit.	这是世界上最无聊的争论也只是胡说八道
423	For what it's worth, by the way, the British Tourist Authority	顺便说一句英国旅游局
424	actually agree with us, because when we FOI'd them last week,	其实同意我们的观点因为上周我们发现他们时
425	they conceded there was no evidence whatsoever	他们承认没有任何证据
426	that the royal family causes tourism revenue for this country.	皇室为这个国家带来旅游收入
427	We don't have to look that far	我们不必看那么远
428	to see what a successful tourist model looks like.	看一个成功的旅游模式是什么样子。
429	France has been the number one tourist destination	法国是头号旅游胜地
430	in the world for three decades.	30年来的世界。
431	And the fact is, the Palace of Versailles brings in	事实是,凡尔赛宫带来了
432	more tourists and more money than every single	游客和钱都比每个人多
433	royal palace combined.	皇家宫殿合并.
434	And it's not hard to see why, because anyone can go there	也不难理解为什么因为任何人都可以去那里
435	any day of the year and explore all of it.	任何一天,并探索它的全部。
436	And it's not just France.	亦不唯法门.
437	More people came to the Notting Hill Carnival	更多人来诺丁山嘉年华
438	than the King's coronation.	比国王的加冕礼。
439	More people visit Legoland each year than Buckingham Palace.	每年访问乐高兰的人比白金汉宫还要多.
440	Madam President, people don't come to Britain	总统女士,人们不会来英国的
441	to be personally greeted by a socially awkward	被社会尴尬的人亲自迎接
442	77-year-old.	77岁.
443	They come for the history, they come for the culture,	他们来找历史他们来找文化
444	they come for the beautiful buildings,	他们为美丽的建筑而来,
445	and that will all still be there when we get rid of the King.	而当我们除掉国王时,这一切将依然存在。
446	The difference is, it will belong to all of us,	不同的是,它属于我们所有人,
447	not just one small incestuous family.	不只是一个小乱伦家庭
448	And the story of Britain's struggle for democracy	还有英国争取民主的故事
449	is going to have an exciting new chapter.	将有一个令人兴奋的新篇章。
450	Madam President, the monarchy died with Elizabeth Windsor.	总统女士,君主制与伊丽莎白·温莎一同去世.
451	Together, we're going to make him King Charles the last.	我们要一起让他成为查理王的最后一位
452	Thanks very much, guys.	非常感谢各位
453	Thank you very much, Mr Stratton, for that speech.	非常感谢你斯特拉顿先生刚才的演讲
454	I now call upon the second speaker on side opposition,	我现在请第二位反对者发言,
455	Lady Colin Campbell.	科林·坎贝尔夫人
456	By the way, it's an injury, it's not age.	况伤官,非岁也.
457	For what that's worth.	以何义故.
458	Madam President, ladies and gentlemen,	主席女士,女士们,先生们,
459	you've already covered,	你已经覆盖,
460	I was going to make what you've already said,	我本来要按你说的做
461	that the motion is fallacious	这个动议是荒谬的
462	because there's very much a King very alive and kicking.	因为有一个国王非常活着和踢。
463	However, I will take dispute with you on one point.	然而,我将就一点与你争论。
464	You're quite wrong.	你错了
465	Hereticlus is right.	异端包容是正确的。
466	Character is destiny.	角色就是命运
467	Also, you are quite wrong	还有,你错了
468	because Jeffrey Epstein was an	因为杰弗里·爱泼斯坦是个
469	麻黄phi(学名:Ephebophile),不是op科op属的植物.
470	And I know the press keep on	我知道媒体会继续报道
471	going on and on about the fact that he was a pedophile.	他是一个恋童癖。
472	But he wasn't.	但他没有。
473	And I actually had to end up suing	我最终不得不起诉
474	the Daily Mirror for having	每日镜像显示
475	called me to task for having said that he was	我打来是因为他说过
476	not a pedophile, that he was an ephebophile.	不是恋童癖,他是麻风病人
477	It cost Alison Phillips her job as the editor	花了艾莉森·菲利普斯做编辑的工作
478	and it cost them hundreds of thousands of pounds.	花了他们数十万磅
479	So let's just make those two points	所以,让我们只是说这两点
480	for what they're worth.	为了他们的价值。
481	We actually live in very exciting	我们生活在非常激动人心的境地
482	times.	时间。
483	And this and the previous	这和之前
484	century have seen humanity's greatest periods	人类最伟大的时期
485	of experimentation, progress	试验进展
486	and chaos.	和混乱。
487	And it is up to each of us	由我们每个人决定
488	to rise to the challenges and to meet them.	迎接挑战,迎接挑战。
489	Not by confusing monarchy with	不是通过混淆君主制
490	absolutism and republicanism	绝对主义和共和主义
491	with genuine representationalism,	以真正的代表性,
492	but with learning from the errors of the 20th	但从20日的错误中吸取教训
493	century, chief of which is that political	上个世纪,其中最主要的是...
494	beliefs are often prejudice-posing	信仰往往带有偏见
495	as solutions that aren't	作为不是
496	valuable, while the benefits of what we possess are	我们拥有的财富是宝贵的
497	ignored and belittled, which you have been doing	你们所表现的,是被忽视的,是被卑贱的,
498	quite brilliantly, may I point out.	非常聪明,请允许我指出。
499	And also, while it occurs to me,	还有,当我遇到的时候,
500	King Charles did not run Diana	查尔斯国王没有管理戴安娜
501	around.	周围
502	She ran him around,	她到处跑
503	starting with her bodyguard.	从她的保镖开始
504	If you want to	如果你想的话
505	know what really happened, try reading	知道到底发生了什么试着看
506	Diana in private, the princess nobody knows,	戴安娜在私下里, 公主没有人知道,
507	and the real Diana.	和真实的戴安娜。
508	I wrote them both.	都是我写的
509	The first one with Diana's help,	第一个在戴安娜的帮助下,
510	okay?	好吗?
511	So, no.	所以,没有。
512	There is no doubt that a capable	毫无疑问,一个有能力
513	absolutist leader, such as Sheikh Mohammed	绝对主义领袖,如谢赫·穆罕默德
514	of Dubai, whose concept modern Dubai is,	迪拜,其现代概念是,
515	can realize a vision of a society	能够实现社会愿景
516	that would be impossible in a more democratic form	以更民主的形式
517	of government.	总统。
518	Stalin also managed	斯大林也办到了
519	spectacular achievements with his five-year	他五年来取得了巨大的成就
520	plans, though whether those were to the ultimate	计划,尽管这些计划是否最终
521	benefit of the citizens of the Soviet Union is	苏联公民的利益
522	academic, for Russia had been socializing	学术,因为俄罗斯一直在社交
523	and industrializing at a rapid rate	快速工业化
524	towards the end of the 19th century,	在19世纪末,
525	to such an extent that by 1911	至1911年
526	it was confidently predicted to overtake the United	人们满怀信心地预测,美国将超越美国。
527	States as the most powerful economy	国家作为最强大的经济体
528	on earth by the 1930s.	在20世纪30年代之前
529	Came the	来了
530	Russian Revolution, the downfall of the Romanov	俄国革命罗曼诺夫人的下台
531	dynasty, and the rest is history.	诏,其余为史.
532	By the 1990s, when communism	到1990年代,当共产主义
533	collapsed, the stark living conditions	崩溃,严峻的生活条件
534	of the citizens of the Soviet Union gave the	苏联公民给予
535	lie to the benefits of that system	对这个制度的好处
536	of government.	总统。
537	And anybody who doesn't	和谁不
538	think that that's a fact, I would suggest	我认为那是事实,我建议
539	they investigate what really happened and	他们调查到底发生了什么
540	what living conditions were in Russia.	俄国的生活条件如何?
541	I don't know	我不知道,你觉得呢?
542	about you, but I'd much rather live in a society	我宁愿生活在一个社会里
543	that is democratic, doesn't force you	这是民主的,不强迫你
544	to do what you want to do.	来做你想做的事
545	its own achievements the way dictatorships do	独裁政权的本领
546	and allows enough dissension for a consensus	并允许有足够的分歧以达成共识
547	to emerge more gradually.	逐渐出现
548	This brings me	这给我带来了
549	to the merits of a constitutional monarchy.	以及君主立宪制的优点
550	The sovereign is the representative	君主是代表
551	embodiment of all the citizens of his	他的全体公民
552	country, whether they want him to exist or not.	无论他们是否希望他存在
553	He is nevertheless their representative in a way	不过他在某种程度上还是他们的代表
554	that no elected head of state can be.	没有当选的国家元首。
555	Presidents represent their parties and	总统代表其政党
556	one only needs to cast one's eyes across the	一个人只需要把眼睛投到
557	Atlantic to see how divisive that	大西洋,看看这有多分裂
558	can be and often is.	可以而且经常是。
559	The political neutrality of a monarch means	君主的政治中立意味着
560	that most of the populace, Republicans aside	大部分民众,共和党人
561	obviously, have an identifiable	很明显,有一个可识别的
562	rallying point nationally.	全国的集合点。
563	This suggests	这说明
564	an often overlooked benefit, the prevention	预防往往被忽视的惠益
565	of alienation for the average citizen.	对普通公民的疏远。
566	Poles are of an interesting age.	波兰人是一个有趣的时代。
567	Even when a monarch is relatively unpopular,	即使君主相对不受欢迎
568	as King Charles is sometimes held to be,	由于查尔斯国王有时被认为是,
569	his approval ratings are usually higher	他的认可率通常更高
570	than most popular presidents.	比大多数受欢迎的总统。
571	To throw a few statistics at you,	为了给你一些数据
572	last month the King had an approval rating	上个月国王获得了认可
573	of 60%, which would be the envy of most	60%,这是大多数的嫉妒
574	elected heads of state.	当选国家元首。
575	But even that pales into insignificance	但即使那苍白变成无谓
576	when compared with the late Queen's 81%,	和已故女王的81%相比
577	Prince William's 76%,	威廉王子的76%,
578	Catherine's 75% or the Princess Royal's	凯瑟琳的75%或皇家公主的
579	70%, which leads us to another	70%,这导致我们到另一个
580	merit of monarchy.	君主制的优点。
581	The royal family,	皇室成员
582	barring misfits and malfunctionaries,	防止不合时宜和故障,
583	some of whom you clearly admire,	他们中有你们所崇拜的,
584	but we're not going to go there,	但我们不会去那里,
585	provides national benefits that no political	国家利益,没有政治利益
586	nepo babies can.	婴儿可以。
587	I have personally witnessed the way the	我亲眼目睹了
588	unsung work of the various Kent's, Gloucester's	肯特、格洛斯特的作品
589	and Prince Edward and Sophie make a positive	爱德华王子和苏菲肯定
590	difference to ordinary people's sense of validation	与普通人的验证感不同
591	as they set about meeting them to acknowledge	他们要与他们会面,以承认
592	their contributions to society in	妇女对社会的贡献
593	very unglamorous circumstances that are never	非常不光彩的环境
594	reported in the press.	新闻报导。
595	That never happens	绝对不会
596	in a republic.	在一个共和国。
597	The 20th century	20世纪
598	was extraordinarily experimental in	超常实验
599	unprecedented ways.	前所未有的方式。
600	It was meant to be the period	本来是那个时期
601	that would confirm republicanism as a form	肯定共和制是一种形式
602	of government superior to monarchy, so all	政府高于君主制,所以
603	societies aspiring to progressive	渴望进步的社会
604	ideals would ultimately elect heads of state.	理想最终将选出国家元首。
605	This would turn out to be a fallacy,	这将是一个谬误,
606	which is best explained in Professor Christopher	克里斯托弗教授对此作了最好的解释
607	Clark's Revolutionary Spring,	克拉克革命之春,
608	Fighting for a New World, 1848 to	为新世界而战,1848年到
609	1849.	1849 (英语).
610	To reduce his	为了减少他的
611	magisterial work to two or three sentences,	魔法工作到两三个句子,
612	he makes the point that Marxism, socialism	他说马克思主义,社会主义
613	and indeed the rise of republicanism	共和主义的兴起
614	were a response to the destruction of the old,	是对旧物毁灭的反应,
615	more paternalistic agrarian way of life,	更加家长式的农业生活方式,
616	which had been from the beginning of	从一开始
617	civilization, incidentally, and its replacement	顺便说一句,文明及其替代
618	with the horrors when industrialization	与恐怖当工业化
619	stripped away the old paternalistic protections.	失去旧的家长式保护
620	Marxism, socialism, et cetera,	马克思主义,社会主义等,
621	had noble conceptions, but as	有崇高的概念,但作为
622	the 20th century evolved and society changed,	20世纪的进化和社会的改变,
623	19th century solutions proved	19世纪的解决办法得到证明
624	unworkable, though it would take time for that	虽然这需要时间
625	fact to become evident, and even today	事实变得明显,甚至今天
626	it is still not apparent to the	至今仍不明显
627	doctrinaire.	学说家.
628	The collapse of monarchies	君主制的崩溃
629	was welcomed as a mark of progress, often	经常被欢迎为进步的标志
630	encouraged by the American government,	在美国政府的鼓励下,
631	whose ideal was the replacement of monarchy with	他们的理想是用
632	republicanism.	共和主义。
633	If you contrast the	如果你与
634	faiths of countries such as China, Russia,	中国、俄罗斯等国的信仰
635	Germany, Austria, Hungary, et cetera,	德国、奥地利、匈牙利等
636	all of whom lost their monarchies in the 20th century,	他们都在20世纪失去了君主制
637	with those who retained them, Sweden,	与保留他们的人,瑞典,
638	Norway, Denmark, Belgium, et cetera,	挪威、丹麦、比利时等
639	a stark picture of the stabilizing	稳定形势的严峻景象
640	merits of a	第 11 条案情
641	constitutional monarchy emerges	君主立宪制出现
642	compared with the latter's chaos,	与后者的混乱相比,
643	extremism, and instability.	极端主义和不稳定。
644	No wonder Winston Churchill regretted the	难怪丘吉尔后悔了
645	downfall of those dynasties, and asserted	并声称
646	that the Second World War would never have taken place	第二次世界大战永远不会发生
647	had the emperors remained on their thrones.	皇帝们在他们的王位上
648	Monarchy is not ideal.	君主制并不理想.
649	There is no such thing as an ideal government.	没有理想的政府
650	The reason is self-evident.	其理自显.
651	To be human is to be imperfect.	做人就是不完美
652	We can and should aim for improvement,	我们能够而且应当致力于改进,
653	but to strive for utopia is	但为乌托邦而奋斗
654	dangerous as well as silly and	危险和愚蠢
655	self-defeating, one of the lessons of the	自我败坏,教训之一
656	20th century.	20世纪.
657	Another is that when the	另一个是当
658	monarch reigns on the turf where he is born and brought up,	君主统治着他出生和长大的地盘,
659	it is by far the best form	这是迄今为止最好的形式
660	of government.	总统。
661	Ironically,	讽刺的是
662	one of Monarchy's chief benefits is that	君主制的主要好处之一是
663	no one save a spouse can be a part	除配偶外,没有人能成为其中的一部分
664	of it.	对
665	Sure, you can do a Harry	当然,你可以做一个哈利
666	or a Duke of Windsor and choose not to be a	或温莎公爵选择不做一个
667	part of it, but you're either born into it or	一部分,但你要么生进它,要么
668	you aren't.	你没有。
669	That, ironically,	讽刺的是,
670	protects the political system against	保护政治制度不受
671	ruinously ambitious politicians.	极具野心的政客们
672	And anybody who doesn't think that many	而谁不认为很多
673	politicians are ruinously ambitious needs	政客们的雄心壮志都破灭了
674	to open their eyes and look.	睁开眼睛看
675	Royals are read to be functionaries of the state	皇室是国家公务员
676	irrespective of their talents or abilities.	无论他们的才能或能力如何
677	The effect is that they are often	效果是,他们往往
678	very dull and boring,	非常无聊和无聊,
679	but also very	但也非常喜欢
680	well-mannered, but having been	人很好,但已经
681	trained from birth to fulfil the demands of their destiny	从出生起就接受训练,以满足他们命运的要求
682	in return for a degree of privilege,	以报答我,
683	they are usually exemplars of	它们通常是指:
684	dedication to duty.	尽忠职守。
685	They are also lifelong luminaries	他们也是终身的光辉
686	of a sort, which proves particularly useful	一种,证明特别有用
687	in raising money for charities and other	为慈善机构和其他慈善机构筹集资金
688	social causes, as no celebrity	社会事业,因为没有名人
689	or movie star has as much pulling power	或者电影明星拥有同样多的拉力
690	as even a minor royal.	即使是一个小皇室。
691	And I speak from experience, having been	我从经验说起,曾经
692	involved with the charity world for the last	最后一次参与慈善界
693	50 years and having had a rather	50年了,而且已经相当
694	unfortunate incident happen in the early 90s	90年代初发生了不幸事件
695	for the United Nations Association	联合国协会
696	and Sophia Loren.	还有索菲亚·洛伦
697	Last but not least, Republican forms of government	最后但并非最不重要的是,共和党形式的政府
698	are more expensive than monarchic.	比君主制更贵
699	I know that my esteemed colleagues	我知道我尊敬的同事们
700	across the room are going to choke on this,	整个房间都快窒息了
701	but maintaining a series of ex-presidents,	但保持一系列前总统,
702	all of whom have limited terms before	他们以前都有有限的任期
703	they are supported in a lifestyle suitable	以适合的生活方式供养他们
704	to their former dignity, means that this	他们曾经的尊严,意味着
705	is but one of the many expenses	只是很多开支之一
706	unique to republics that are not	非共和国的独有性
707	shared by monarchies.	由君主制国家共同拥有
708	I will leave you	我会离开你
709	with a few figures and the observation that these	有一些数字和观察认为,
710	do not cover the hidden costs of maintaining	不支付维持
711	sitting much less former presidents.	更别提前总统了
712	They do not apply to the maintenance	它们不适用于赡养费。
713	of the various buildings, et cetera, et cetera,	各种建筑物,等等,
714	simply to the running costs of each	仅用于每个项目的运行费用
715	of the sitting presidencies.	主席名单。
716	The US costs	美国的费用
717	over $2 billion per annum, the Italian	每年超过20亿美元,意大利人
718	224 million euros.	2.24亿欧元。
719	By contrast, the British	相比之下,英国人
720	monarchy comes in at $132 million	皇权以1.32亿美元入门
721	and the Dutch at $60 million.	和荷兰6000万美元。
722	The only rational conclusion anyone	只有理性的结论
723	can come to after an informed	消息传来后
724	and dispassionate examination of the subject	和对科目的冷静审查
725	is that filling the void monarchy	是填补虚空的君主制
726	creates at the center of	在中心创建
727	political life, because that's its	政治生活,因为这是它的
728	true value, would strip our country	真正的价值,会剥夺我们的国家
729	of the last protection we have against	我们最后的保护措施
730	overweening politicians, most of	压倒政客,大多数
731	whom has shown us throughout this century	在整个世纪,他向我们展示了
732	how unfit they are for purpose, irrespective	不论目的如何不合适
733	of which political party they represent.	他们所代表的政党。
734	I would invite you to consider very carefully	请大家仔细考虑
735	why monarchy is the better form of government	为什么君主制是更好的政府形式
736	for this country and to vote against	投票反对
737	the motion which I am opposing.	我反对的议案
738	Thank you	谢谢
739	so much.	这么多。
740	I now open the floor to any	我现在请任何人发言。
741	floor speeches from any students or members of the Union	任何学生或工会成员的发言
742	who would like to give a floor speech on this motion.	他希望就这项动议发言。
743	I look for a speaker on side proposition.	我在找一个副演讲者
744	I call upon Zagan Farhan.	我请扎甘·法尔汉发言。
745	The constitutions of most democracies these days	大多数民主国家的宪法
746	are open with something to the effect of, we the people,	打开了东西效果是,我们人民,
747	we the people of Ireland, we the people of the United States.	我们爱尔兰人民,我们美国人民。
748	I think that's very important, because that says something	我觉得这很重要,因为那说明
749	about what you are as a country, what the system	关于你作为一个国家,什么制度
750	you've designed to govern yourselves is about, what it means,	你设计来治理自己是为了什么
751	where the power is centered.	以权力为中心
752	And in those countries	在这些国家
753	they accept a principle that all people are born equal	他们接受人人生而平等的原则
754	and that all people have an equal and indivisible right	人人享有平等和不可分割的权利
755	to participate in the political system.	参与政治制度。
756	We don't do that here.	我们不这样做在这里。
757	We say, based on some crazy ancient	我们说,根据一些疯狂的古老
758	principle, that God ordained, they still	原则,即上帝赋予,他们仍然
759	anoint him, that God ordained King	以真主赐予他的神灵,
760	Charles III to sit in his chair and exercise	查尔斯三世坐在椅子上锻炼
761	executive authority.	行政权。
762	I think that is preposterous,	我认为这是荒谬的,
763	rooted in some crazy idea	植根于一个疯狂的想法
764	made up in the 10th century and completely unfit	10世纪编的完全不适合
765	for the governance of a modern democracy.	现代民主制度的治理。
766	And not only	不仅如此
767	does it have legal and constitutional significance,	它是否具有法律和宪法意义,
768	it also has significance to the way we execute our everyday	这对我们每天的行刑方式也很重要
769	lives.	活着
770	Because the Prime Minister	因为首相
771	is the monarch's senior advisor.	是君主的高级顾问
772	That is where they derive their authority from.	这就是他们的权威来源。
773	They govern under	条例
774	the royal prerogative.	皇室特权。
775	They go to war in the name of the	他们以战争的名义
776	king.	国王
777	They dissolve parliament in the name of the king.	他们以国王的名义解散议会.
778	And should	应该
779	the king turn around tomorrow and decide that he doesn't want to do any of	国王明天转身决定他不想做任何事
780	that under Sir Keir Starmer's instruction anymore, he is well	在基尔·斯塔默爵士的指示下他已经康复了
781	within his rights and no court would be able to stop him	在他的权利, 没有法院能够阻止他
782	from doing whatever the hell he wants.	不做任何他想做的事,地狱。
783	He is fully entitled	他完全有资格
784	to start a war without the consent of parliament or without the consent	未经议会同意或同意发动战争;
785	of his ministers, should he so choose.	他的大臣,如果是这样选择的话。
786	That is a right	这是权利
787	that he possesses.	他拥有。
788	And there was a suggestion	有一个建议
789	over here earlier also.	刚才也在这里
790	The monarchy is neutral.	君主制是中立的.
791	They are a neutral centrepiece in our system.	他们是我们系统中中立的中心。
792	I strongly disagree.	我强烈不同意。
793	Many of our monarchs have interfered and our princes,	许多君主干涉了我们的王子
794	etc., have interfered in politics.	例如,干预了政治。
795	But beyond that,	但除此之外,
796	there is nothing neutral about a billionaire	一个亿万富翁没有什么中立的
797	who sits in a golden throne and wears a crown.	他们坐在金色的宝座上,戴着皇冠。
798	There is nothing neutral about a person	一个人没有什么中立的
799	whose grandmother or great-grandmother was crowned Empress of	其祖母或曾祖母被封为皇后
800	India against the consent of the people of India.	印度反对印度人民同意.
801	There is nothing neutral about a crown	皇冠没有什么中立的
802	that still possesses a diamond or a jewel stolen	仍然拥有钻石或珠宝被盗
803	from a foreign people.	是从外国来的
804	There is nothing neutral	没有什么中立的
805	about that system.	关于那个系统。
806	It is a remnant of all that is wrong	这是所有错误的残余
807	with our past and it is something they wish to hold on to	我们的过去,这是他们想要坚持的东西
808	because maybe they're not so happy with where we are	因为也许他们对我们所处的位置不怎么满意
809	right now or where we might be going.	现在或者我们要去的地方。
810	I also think it is farcical that arguments	我也觉得争论是荒谬的
811	about the head of state's personal life and marriage	关于国家元首的个人生活和婚姻
812	are like a serious political thing that come up	就像一个严肃的政治事物出现
813	in a debate about how we govern our country.	讨论我们如何治理国家
814	How crazy is it that we're talking about who he married	我们谈论他嫁给谁真是疯狂
815	and whether it was okay to marry them?	和它是不是可以嫁给他们?
816	And that's like a serious political conversation.	这就像一个严肃的政治谈话。
817	Or that half our media spent years	或者那一半的媒体花了很多年
818	haranguing Meghan Markle and Prince Harry	梅根・马克和哈里王子
819	as if that was again some kind of serious political issue.	似乎这又是某种严重的政治问题。
820	I just don't care.	我只是不关心。
821	I don't want to know.	不欲知见.
822	Let these people live their lives in peace.	让这些人在和平中生活。
823	It should not concern the average person whatsoever.	这不应涉及普通人。
824	Your police officers, your soldiers,	你的警官,你的士兵们,
825	your judges, your members of parliament,	你们的法官,你们的议员,
826	your members of Scottish parliament,	你的苏格兰议员们,
827	they swear an oath of allegiance.	他们发誓效忠
828	In many other countries this oath of allegiance is to the law,	在许多其他国家,这种效忠宣誓是对法律的,
829	to the people, to the idea of the country.	对人民,对国家的思想。
830	I will bear true faith and allegiance	我会有真正的信仰和忠诚
831	to His Majesty King Charles III, his heirs and successors.	国王查理三世的继承人和继承人
832	That is again preposterous	这又是荒谬的
833	that our public servants swear allegiance to one person	我们的公务员对一个人宣誓效忠
834	and not to any of you.	而不是你们任何人。
835	They owe no loyalty to you, your members of parliament,	他们不欠你忠诚你的议员们
836	your police officers.	你们的警察
837	They owe you nothing.	他们欠你什么。
838	They owe their loyalty, their allegiance, their responsibility	他们的忠诚忠诚责任
839	to one man purportedly put there by God.	给一个据说被上帝放在那里的人
840	I find that to be disgraceful.	我觉得这很丢脸
841	They also don't like dissent.	他们也不喜欢异议。
842	When members of republic and others protested	当共和国成员和其他人抗议时
843	at Queen Elizabeth's funeral or at the coronation,	在伊丽莎白女王的葬礼或加冕礼上,
844	they were dragged away by police officers and told that they had no right.	他们被警察拖走,并说他们没有权利。
845	It is still, strictly speaking, treasonous	严格地说,它仍然是叛国罪
846	to say that you oppose the monarchy	说你反对君主制
847	and you oppose its continuation as our system of government.	而你反对它继续作为我们的政体
848	Again, I find that preposterous.	再说一遍,我觉得这很荒谬
849	Where in any idea of a modern liberal democracy	在现代自由民主的理念中
850	is it not okay to criticize the system of government?	批评政府制度不好吗?
851	Is it not okay to criticize the person who sits in the big chair?	批评坐在大椅子上的人不好吗?
852	I think that is that.	我想就是这样。
853	I'll end with maybe a broader point.	我最后要谈的或许是更广泛的一点。
854	Britain is at its best when we have been	英国是最好的,当我们是
855	democratically radical.	民主激进。
856	Magna Carta, the glorious revolution which established	《大宪章》,建立
857	the idea of parliamentary democracy,	议会民主思想,
858	the great reform act which granted more people the vote	伟大的改革法案给予更多的人投票
859	than had ever been seen in many places in the world.	在世界上很多地方都见过
860	They would have us sit in the past.	他们会让我们坐在过去。
861	They would have us continue with a system simply because it is there	他们会让我们继续维持一个系统仅仅因为它存在
862	and because it has been there.	因为它一直在那里。
863	I resent that.	我恨那个
864	I think that's un-British.	我觉得那是不英国的
865	I think the more British thing,	我认为更英国的事情,
866	I think the more democratic thing, is to be radical about our future.	我认为更民主的是对我们的未来持激进态度
867	To say that we can and we should have something better.	说我们可以,我们应该有更好的东西。
868	And that we can and we should have a system of government	我们能,我们应该有一个政府制度
869	that is accountable, that is fair, that is equal	问责制、公平、平等
870	and doesn't say to any of you in this room that you are less than	也不要对你们说你们比
871	because of the circumstances of your birth.	因为你的出生环境
872	And that is a principle that I support and I reject	这是我支持和拒绝的原则
873	the idea that God should choose our head of state.	上帝应该选择我们的国家元首
874	Thank you.	谢谢
875	Thank you very much.	谢谢
876	Thank you very much, Zagam, for that speech.	非常感谢你,扎加姆,你的发言。
877	I now look for a speaker on side opposition.	我现在找一位反对的发言者。
878	I call upon Ava Doherty.	我请艾娃·多赫蒂来
879	Ava?	爱娃?
880	Right, I'm going to play devil's advocate now.	好吧,我现在要扮演魔鬼的代言人
881	Yes, I did cheekily prepare a floor speech, just in case.	是的,我准备了一场演讲以防万一
882	And I'm glad that that worked out.	我很高兴事情解决了
883	Ladies and gentlemen, defending the monarchy	女士们,先生们,捍卫君主制
884	is a bit like defending your weirdly elegant aunt	有点像保护你那古怪优雅的姨妈
885	who owns too many corgis and refuses to explain	他拥有太多的Corgis,拒绝解释
886	where the money comes from.	钱从哪里来?
887	You know it's irrational, you know it's expensive	你知道这是不合理的, 你知道它很贵
888	and yet if she disappeared, Christmas would feel wrong.	如果她失踪了圣诞节会觉得不对劲
889	That's the thing about the monarchy.	君主制就是这样的.
890	It's gloriously unnecessary in exactly the way	完全没有必要
891	civilisation is unnecessary, like opera	文明是不必要的,就像歌剧
892	or table manners or having a national anthem	或表礼或有国歌
893	instead of everyone just humming awkwardly before football matches.	而不是每个人都在足球比赛前尴尬地哼哼
894	And yes, I'm going to quote Yes Minister	是的,我要引用部长的话
895	slightly inaccurately now.	现在有点不准确
896	You know when Sir Humphrey in the episode The Whiskey Priest	你知道当汉弗莱爵士在剧集"威士忌牧师"
897	turns around to Jim Hacker and says,	转身对吉姆・哈克说,
898	well Jim, the point of government	吉姆,政府要紧
899	is writing the ship, still being here tomorrow.	正在写船, 仍然在这里的明天。
900	And Jim Hacker keeps asking him what's the point	吉姆·哈克一直问他有什么意义
901	and he says, stability, again, just being here tomorrow.	他说,稳定,再次, 只是在这里,明天。
902	And I think in a nation of uncertainty,	我想在一个不确定的国家,
903	in a time of crisis, in a place where we	在一个危机的时代,在我们
904	consider all the time, gosh is this happening, is that happening,	考虑所有的时间,天哪这是发生,是发生,
905	there needs to be a constant anchor.	需要一个恒定的锚。
906	And I think it's funny because it's true.	我认为这很有趣,因为它是真的。
907	Politicians need your vote, celebrities want your attention,	政客需要你的选票名人需要你的注意
908	influencers want your supplement subscription code	影响者想要您的补充订阅代码
909	used by midnight, but the monarchy asks almost nothing	但是君主制几乎一无所获
910	except that we occasionally stand up and wave at a balcony.	只是我们偶尔站在阳台挥手
911	And somehow that restraint gives us power.	不知何故,这种克制给了我们力量。
912	Look at King Charles recently speaking in America.	看看查尔斯国王最近在美国讲话
913	There he was, this slightly rumpled British king	他在那里,这个略微暴躁的英国国王
914	standing before Congress talking about democracy,	站在国会谈论民主,
915	history, friendship, climate, continuity.	历史友谊气候连续性
916	And before you say anything, Americans absolutely love	在你说话之前美国人绝对爱
917	that stuff, let's be real.	那东西,让我们是真实的。
918	Because deep down,	因为内心深处,
919	republics secretly enjoy royalty the way	共和国偷偷享受皇室特权
920	vegans secretly miss cheese.	素食者偷偷怀念起司.
921	It's just true.	这是真的。
922	The monarchy gives Britain mystique, which frankly	君主制给了英国神秘感坦率地说
923	is all we have left in this current age.	是我们在这个时代留下的
924	我们拥有一半的Netflix
925	with the period dramas, Downton Abbey.	与时期戏剧,唐顿修道院.
926	We own those sorts of things now.	我们现在拥有这些东西。
927	I do agree with this bench that Britain does	我同意英国说的
928	need the monarchy to reform.	需要君主制进行改革。
929	I do agree.	我同意你的观点
930	Obviously,	显然
931	every institution does.	每个机构都这样
932	The expenses should be scrutinised.	应仔细审查费用。
933	Jeffrey Epstein这个术语是否
934	is a paedophile, yes, okay, that's semantics.	是恋童癖,是的,好吧,那是语义学。
935	But I think that the point there is that we do need a public inquiry.	但我认为我们确实需要公开调查。
936	I think that's incredibly important.	我觉得这很重要
937	I'm not saying that it's not.	我不是说它不是。
938	I do think that the role does need to be modernised	我认为这个角色确实需要现代化
939	and the relationship with the public more transparent.	和与公众的关系更加透明。
940	But let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater,	但我们不要把孩子扔出浴缸
941	especially when the baby is wearing a crown and costs less	特别是当孩子戴着王冠花费更少的时候
942	than replacing the entire constitutional system with elected presidents	而不是用当选总统取代整个宪法制度
943	every five years.	每5年一次。
944	Because more than anything,	因为比任何事情,
945	the monarchy gives us continuity.	君主制给了我们连续性
946	Governments collapse	政府崩溃
947	every six weeks, or shorter in our case sometimes.	每隔六个星期,或者我们的情况有时更短。
948	Prime Ministers vanish like men exiting a group chat	首相们像男人离开集体聊天一样消失
949	after being caught lying.	是被骗的
950	But the crown	但王冠却
951	remains slightly awkward, slightly archaic,	仍然有点尴尬,有点过时,
952	comfortingly permanent.	慰劳永久。
953	And maybe that's why people still	也许这就是为什么人们仍然
954	care.	照顾。
955	Because in a world where everything is rebranded,	因为在一个一切被重塑的世界里
956	monetised and replaced instantly, the monarchy stubbornly	货币化并立即被取代君主制固执
957	refuses to become content.	拒绝成为满足。
958	It just exists.	它只是存在。
959	Like Stonehenge, or weather, or emotional repression.	如巨石阵,或天气,或情绪压制.
960	And honestly, that feels quite British.	老实说,这感觉相当英国。
961	Thank you.	谢谢
962	I yield my chair to the ex-presiding officer.	我把我的椅子交给前任主审官
963	Now, continuing with the debate,	现在,继续辩论,
964	I now call on the third speaker on proposition,	我现在请第三位关于提案的发言者发言。
965	Ms Anna Pasternak.	安娜・帕斯特纳克女士
966	Thank you very much, Madam Chairman.	非常感谢主席女士。
967	Five years ago, I stood on that side of the Chamber.	五年前,我站在会议厅的一边。
968	And I opposed the proposal	我反对这个提议
969	that this House should abolish the monarchy.	要求本院废除君主制
970	Today, I sit on this side of the Chamber.	今天,我坐在会议厅的这一边。
971	Why is that?	为什么?
972	Quite simply, it is because I believe	很简单,因为我相信
973	that the monarchy died with Queen Elizabeth II.	君主制与女王伊丽莎白二世一同去世.
974	She represented everything that was	她代表着一切
975	good about monarchy.	关于君主制很好
976	She was the strength and stay	她是力量和留下来
977	of our country.	我们的国家。
978	She represented	她代表
979	service, integrity, duty,	服务、诚信、义务、
980	lack of ego, which is so refreshing in our increasingly	自我的缺乏, 这在我们越来越令人振奋
981	narcissistic culture.	自恋文化.
982	Charles was	查尔斯
983	only ever going to be a transitional monarch	只有永远成为过渡君主
984	due to his mother's very long reign.	由于他母亲的统治时间很长
985	And he is doing a good job in the vein	他的脉搏很好
986	of his mother.	他的母亲。
987	However, when we	然而,当我们
988	come to Prince William, I feel that we see	威廉王子,我觉得我们看到了
989	the worst of inherited privilege.	最糟糕的继承特权。
990	We see	我们明白了
991	his arrogance, superiority, entitlement,	他是傲慢的,是优越的,是应享的。
992	ego.	自我主义。
993	I'm not going to even bother	我什至不麻烦
994	with the financial optics of the Duchy of Cornwall,	与康沃尔公爵的财经光学,
995	established in 1337, which creates	建立于1337年,
996	1.3 billion, and the stories that William is	13亿威廉的故事
997	talking about. I'm not going to even bother with	谈论。我甚至不会去打扰
998	selling off tenant farms in Cornwall and Devon	在康沃尔和德文出售租户农场
999	to the highest bidder, making the farmers	给出价最高的农民
1000	homeless and without a job.	无家可归和没有工作。
1001	What I really want to talk to you today about	我今天真正想跟你谈的事
1002	is the incredible abuse of power	是惊人的滥用权力
1003	within the monarchy to do with the British press.	与英国媒体有关
1004	Now, you may assume that the poor royal	现在,你可以假设可怜的皇家
1005	family are at the mercy of the tabloids,	家人受小报的支配
1006	the hungry reporters baying at their feet.	饥饿的记者在他们的脚下
1007	Let me tell you, it is completely the	我告诉你,这是完全的
1008	opposite.	反着.
1009	The British palace,	英国宫殿
1010	the British royal family, are the puppeteers	英国皇室是傀儡
1011	of the press these days.	现在的媒体。
1012	They completely	他们完全
1013	and utterly control their optics	完全控制他们的光学
1014	via the press.	通过媒体。
1015	I shall tell you a personal	我要告诉你一个私事
1016	story.	故事的情节。
1017	Four years ago, I was asked to write a	四年前,我被要求写一个
1018	piece for Tatler magazine on our future queen	泰特勒杂志关于我们未来女王的作品
1019	Catherine, maybe our future queen, maybe not,	凯瑟琳,也许我们未来的女王,也许不是,
1020	if we do well tonight.	如果我们今晚做得好。
1021	And I was asked to write	我被要求写
1022	a non-puff piece.	一块不毛的
1023	I did say that	我说了
1024	Catherine has many valuable	凯瑟琳有很多有价值的东西
1025	characteristics which are perfect for the British monarchy.	这些特征非常适合英国君主制。
1026	I said that she was the saviour and the salve	我说她是救世主和救世主
1027	of the British monarchy, that her rather bland persona	英国君主制国家, 即她相当粗野的人a
1028	was perfect in terms, very like our late	说起来很完美就像我们迟到一样
1029	queen, who was brilliantly opaque.	女王,她很不透明
1030	You never knew	你从不知道
1031	what she was really thinking.	她当时在想什么?
1032	She was perfectly	琌Ч
1033	bipartisan.	两党。
1034	However, I also	不过,我也
1035	said that Kate was perilously thin.	说凯特很瘦
1036	Well, I am a dinosaur.	我是恐龙
1037	I would adore to be described as perilously	我很乐意被描述为危险
1038	thin.	瘦点
1039	In Tatler world, that is a compliment.	在泰特勒世界里,那是赞美。
1040	I did not mean it in the way that apparently	我不是那个意思,显然
1041	I shamed the sisterhood.	我羞辱了那个姐妹
1042	I said something deeply	我说的很深
1043	offensive, among other things, about her background.	特别是她的背景
1044	And Kensington Palace decided	肯辛顿宫决定
1045	to sue Condé Nastraveller, the publishers of Tatler	控告塔特勒的出版商康德·纳斯里弗勒
1046	magazine.	杂志。
1047	And for four months, I was told	四个月来,我被告知
1048	you must not speak to the press, even though	你不能跟媒体说话,尽管
1049	I had the world's press clamouring to speak to me	我让全世界媒体都想和我说话
1050	about this what became known as Tatlergate.	这个叫做"纹身门"
1051	And I	还有我
1052	did not speak to the press, even though I had books to promote and things	虽然我还有书要宣传,没有跟媒体说话
1053	I had to cancel.	我必须取消
1054	And I remember it vividly.	我清楚地记得
1055	It was a September evening on a Thursday in	这是9月的晚上一个星期四在
1056	2020, and I was rung up by Tatler, by the managing	2020年,我被Tatler,管理者追杀
1057	editor, and told, oh, the legal action is over	并且告诉法律行动已经结束了
1058	with Condé Nastraveller.	与康德纳斯旅行者。
1059	They've got to remove a	他们必须去除一个
1060	few paragraphs from the online article.	网上文章的几段。
1061	But the deal is you must never speak about	但交易是你永远不能说
1062	this publicly.	这是公开的。
1063	So I said, OK, absolutely I won't.	所以我说,好吧,绝对不会。
1064	So you can imagine my surprise when I went to	所以,你可以想象我的惊喜当我去
1065	my newsagents that Sunday, and the front page of the	我那个星期天的新闻代理和头版
1066	Mail on Sunday screams Kate's victory over Tatler.	星期天的邮件尖叫着凯特战胜泰特勒.
1067	And I was furious because I hadn't leaked it.	我生气是因为我没泄露出来
1068	I thought Tatler had.	我以为泰特勒有
1069	And I rang them up, and I said, my God,	我按了他们,我说,我的上帝,
1070	they hadn't leaked it.	他们没泄露出去
1071	No.	没有
1072	William's office	威廉办公室
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1074	the Mail on Sunday and placed the story.	星期天的邮报并把故事。
1075	And there was a double page spread of sister	还有一个双页散开的姐姐
1076	shaming me that I said the terrible thing, Kate is perilously	难堪我说了可怕的话凯特很危险
1077	thin.	瘦点
1078	Well, look at a photograph of her.	看看她的一张照片
1079	And anyway, all is fair	无论如何,一切都是公平的
1080	in love and war.	在爱和战争中。
1081	I'm a hardened journalist.	我是一个硬化的记者。
1082	I've been doing this for	我这样做是为了
1083	40 years.	40岁。
1084	That's not my point.	这不是我的观点。
1085	My point	我的观点
1086	is that they are abusing their power	他们是在滥用权力,
1087	by manipulating the press in the way	通过操纵媒体的方式
1088	that they do.	他们这样做。
1089	They absolutely control the optics.	他们完全控制了光学
1090	Stories they don't want to go in, don't go in, and other things do.	故事他们不想进去,不要进去,其他的事情也一样.
1091	And this brings me to Meghan and Harry.	这让我想到梅根和哈利
1092	I am a biographer of the late Duchess of Windsor.	我是已故温莎公爵夫人的传记作家
1093	And I was very anti-Meghan a few years ago.	我几年前非常反对梅根
1094	I felt that she had everything that the Duke of Windsor	我觉得她拥有温莎公爵的一切
1095	would have adored for his wife.	会爱上他的妻子。
1096	She had the HRH title.	她有HRH的头衔。
1097	She had a fabulous royal wedding.	她有一个美妙的皇家婚礼。
1098	She even had Prince Charles	她甚至还有查尔斯王子
1099	walking her down the aisle.	把她带到过道上
1100	But what has	不过,有什么
1101	sustained the House of Windsor and where they are so	维持温莎之家,他们在那里,
1102	ruthlessly brilliant is that they have realised	无情的辉煌他们已经意识到
1103	that their modus operandi survives	他们的作案手法能维持下去
1104	on the spotlight being on the monarch	闪耀的焦点是君主
1105	or the heir.	或继承人。
1106	And anyone who takes too much	和谁拿太多
1107	oxygen on the sidelines has to be got rid of.	外面的氧气必须清除
1108	We saw it with the Duke of Windsor who wanted to return to this country	我们跟温莎公爵一起看到的他想回到这个国家
1109	and be a loyal brother to the King.	并作忠义之弟于王.
1110	But no, no,	但是,没有,没有,
1111	he was far too charismatic and popular, so he had to be shoved out	他太有魅力而且很受欢迎所以他不得不被赶出去
1112	in exile.	流亡国外。
1113	We saw it with Diana.	我们和戴安娜一起看到的
1114	We saw it with	我们看见了
1115	Sarah Ferguson.	萨拉·弗格森.
1116	But the worst we've ever seen it	但是我们见过最糟糕的
1117	is with Meghan Markle.	是和梅根・马克尔。
1118	Because what happened	因为发生了什么事
1119	is when she and Harry went on the Australia	就是她和哈利去澳大利亚的时候
1120	trip in 2018, and they were a	2018年旅行,他们是一个
1121	tremendous success, that is a threat	巨大的成功,这是一个威胁
1122	to Kate and William.	给凯特和威廉
1123	You cannot have them being	你不能让他们存在
1124	too popular.	太受欢迎了
1125	So the knives came out.	於是刀 came而出.
1126	And when Prince Harry gave his Netflix interview that I was asked	当哈里王子接受尼弗利克斯的采访时有人问我
1127	to review for a newspaper, and I was watching this,	我当时在看报纸
1128	eating my boiled egg, the thing dropped at eight in the morning,	吃了我煮的鸡蛋早上八点就掉下来了
1129	eating my breakfast, and I thought, this man is telling the truth.	吃我的早餐, 我想,这个人说的是实话。
1130	But you will never hear that in this country	但是,你永远不会听到在这个国家
1131	because there is not even an unspoken, there is a spoken	因为甚至没有未说,有说
1132	edict in the press, in most of the newspapers,	在报纸上,在大多数报纸上,
1133	apart from The Guardian and Observer, that you cannot write anything	除了《卫报》和《观察家》之外,你绝不能写出任何东西。
1134	positive about Meghan and Harry.	关于梅根和哈利的肯定
1135	That doesn't	不是这样的
1136	{\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}这不卖拷贝
1137	But you must	但你必须
1138	only write positive things about William and Kate.	只写关于威廉和凯特的正面文章.
1139	So we live in a society where we are supposed to put up	所以,我们生活在一个社会我们应当忍受
1140	with the vilification of the Sussexes at the expense	与诽谤萨塞克斯人的代价
1141	of the sanctification of the Cambridges.	剑桥的圣洁
1142	And when Harry said he had no option but to leave	当哈利说他别无选择只能离开
1143	because the knives are out at the palace, and Dickie Arbiter	因为刀子在宫殿外还有迪克·阿比特
1144	knows all too well about the knives at the palace, although I would say	我对宫廷的刀子太了解了但我会说
1145	in his day, it wasn't as dirty and messy as it is	在他的日子里,它没有那么肮脏和混乱
1146	today, he was never going to get a fair hearing.	今天,他永远不会得到一个公平的听证会。
1147	They were never going to say anything decent about	他们从不说正经话
1148	Meghan Markle.	梅根・马克尔。
1149	I've no idea if she's a lovely person	我不知道她是不是个可爱的人
1150	or ruthlessly ambitious, and if she is, good for her.	或无情的野心, 如果她是, 对她有好处。
1151	But that we as a country could condone	但我们作为一个国家可以宽恕
1152	the hate speech against her, the absolute	对她的仇恨言论,绝对的
1153	horrific abuse that she	可怕的虐待她
1154	has experienced in this country, and this is being	在这个国家的经历,这是
1155	fed and fuelled by the palace.	受宫供养及供养.
1156	And I do	我也这么想
1157	not want to see William on the throne, William,	我不想看到威廉登基威廉
1158	a future king who can weep with footballers	未来的国王,能与足球运动员哭泣
1159	about mental health, who can ring up newspaper editors	关于心理健康,谁可以调用报纸编辑
1160	and whinge about a few paragraphs in an article,	在文章的几段中,
1161	but cannot extend his brother the hand of friendship.	却不能伸出他的哥哥的友谊之手
1162	These boys have survived unsurmountable trauma.	这些男孩在无法承受的创伤中幸存下来。
1163	Their mother was killed.	他们的母亲被杀了
1164	I completely feel	我觉得
1165	nothing but empathy for them for that.	只有同情他们
1166	But they are	但他们是
1167	a dysfunctional family that is worse than the worst kind	一个功能失调的家庭比最糟糕的家庭还要糟糕
1168	of celebrities.	名流们
1169	They are celebrities without talent.	他们是名人,没有天赋。
1170	They treat their own horrendously.	他们对待自己的可怕。
1171	And that is why I say, Madam Chairman, ladies and	这就是为什么我说,主席女士,女士们,
1172	gentlemen, this house must support the motion	先生们,这房子必须支持动议
1173	and the notion that the monarchy	和君主制的概念
1174	died with Queen Elizabeth II.	与女王伊丽莎白二世一同去世.
1175	Thank you very much for that speech.	非常感谢你的演讲。
1176	I now call upon the third speaker on opposition,	我现在请第三位反对者发言。
1177	Mr Hugo Vicker.	雨果维克尔先生
1178	Well, Madam President, I know it's been said before, this motion,	总统女士我知道有人说过这个动议
1179	this house believes that the monarchy died with the Queen.	这所房子认为君主制与女王同归于尽.
1180	Well, it's an easy motion to refute because quite obviously it did not	嗯,这是一个容易反驳的动议因为很明显它没有
1181	end with the Queen.	结束与女王。
1182	And when the Queen died in September	当皇后在九月去世时
1183	2022, she was immediately succeeded by Prince Charles	2022年,她立即被查尔斯王子继承
1184	as King Charles III, and nearly four years on,	作为国王查理三世, 和将近四年过去了,
1185	he's very much in place and he will remain so.	他已经非常到位了,他会一直保持下去
1186	I wish I could sympathise	我希望我能够同情
1187	with the proposed proposal.	与拟议提案。
1188	users of the motion and wonder to what extent they really believe some of the things that	并想知道他们真正相信一些东西的程度
1189	they're saying.	他们说。
1190	I also wanted to say that when I saw this debate advertised, I did what one should never	我还想说当我看到这场辩论广告时我做了不该做的事
1191	do.	说吧
1192	I looked at the comments.	我看了这些评论。
1193	Usually these are negative as people sound off.	通常这些是负面的,因为人们听起来关闭。
1194	Most back the survival of the monarchy as of supreme importance.	多数支持君主制作为至高无上的存亡.
1195	Some even questioned why this honorable institution should consider debating such a case.	有些人甚至质疑,为什么这个光荣的机构应考虑辩论这样一个案件。
1196	Interesting points were made.	有人提出了有趣的观点。
1197	The 3000 charities that profited from the monarchy, the importance of continuity.	从君主制中获利的3000个慈善机构,连续性的重要性.
1198	One said, and I agree, the monarchy is woven into the fabric of the country and is a source	有人说,我同意, 君主制被编织成国家的结构,是一个来源
1199	of national pride.	国家骄傲。
1200	Another, that continuity is not stagnation.	另外,这种连续性不是停滞。
1201	The tradition is not weakness.	传统不是软弱。
1202	Now if this were a court of law, I would take the stance that there is no case to answer.	如果这是法庭的话,我的立场是,没有任何理由可以回答。
1203	But you very kindly invited me here to hear my opinion and I think it would be rather	但你很客气地邀请我来这里听取我的意见我认为这样比较好
1204	churlish of me not to give it to you.	我不敢给你
1205	I think, I hope, you will find that my reasoning is calm and reasoned and not a lot of shouting	我想,我希望,你会发现,我的推理是冷静的,理性的,没有太多的喊叫
1206	and yelling as we have heard or indeed the autobiography of the previous speaker and	正如我们所听到的或事实上是前一位发言者的自传
1207	her various allegations against the family.	她对家人的各种指控。
1208	Now the monarchy has weathered the turbulence that toppled many European crowns, particularly	现在君主制已经经受了动荡推翻了许多欧洲王室,特别是
1209	after the First World War.	第一次世界大战之后
1210	You will find few people in this land who admire the late Queen less than I do.	在这片土地上,很少有人比我更崇拜已故女王
1211	Indeed I've just published a 600 page biography of her which has been hailed as a love story	其实我刚刚出版了600页的她的传记被誉为爱情故事
1212	and I cannot think of a reign in history in which I would have preferred to live under	我无法想象历史的统治我宁愿生活在其中
1213	any economic or political circumstances.	任何经济或政治情况。
1214	But the great thing is that there was a very smooth transition from the Queen to King Charles	但最重要的事情是从女王到查理王的过渡非常顺利
1215	and despite illness and fractures within the family, he has performed and continues to	尽管他家里有疾病和骨折,他一直并继续从事
1216	an admirable job.	令人钦佩的工作。
1217	I have a feeling that many times in history negative elements in the population have predicted	我有一种感觉,在历史上很多次负面因素的人口预言
1218	the end of the monarchy but it does not happen.	君主制的终结,但并没有发生。
1219	Over the centuries the monarchy has evolved from a position where the King was all-powerful	几个世纪以来,君主制从一个国王拥有全能的地位演变而来
1220	to a point where the monarch is a constitutional head of state above the political fray and	至君主是政治纷争之上的宪政国家元首
1221	as such can be respected by people of different political persuasions.	因此,不同政治派别的人可以尊重这一点。
1222	This is effective.	这是有效的。
1223	His powers were curbed in many ways by things like the Bill of Rights and by voluntarily	他的权力在许多方面受到诸如权利法案和自愿的限制
1224	surrendering these powers we reach the current situation, a constitutional head of state	放弃这些权力,我们到达目前的状况,一个宪制的国家元首
1225	serving our nation.	为我们的国家服务。
1226	When I concede that you might not invent a monarchy for a new country since we have one,	当我承认你可能不会为一个新国家发明君主制的时候
1227	we are very lucky.	我们非常幸运。
1228	The system works.	系统有效。
1229	King George V used to quote Pericles on the greatness of Athens, we are happy in a form	乔治五世国王曾引用佩里克斯关于雅典的伟大, 我们很高兴的形式
1230	of government which cannot envy the laws of our neighbours for it has served as a model	无法羡慕我们邻国法律的政府,
1231	for others but is original in ourselves.	对其他人来说,我们是独创的。
1232	That applies to us, he used to say, and it applies today.	他说,这适用于我们,今天也是如此。
1233	The monarch arrives by hereditary right.	君主通过世袭权到达.
1234	The present King did not climb the slippery pole of politics to get where he is.	现任国王并没有爬上政治的滑杆来达到他的位置.
1235	He arrived there by being his mother's son.	他通过做他母亲的儿子到达那里.
1236	Therefore we have known him since he was a baby photographed by Cecil Beaton, a young	因此,我们认识他,因为他是一个婴儿由Cecil Beaton拍摄,一个年轻的
1237	man of subtle humour interviewed by Jack DiManeo.	杰克·迪马内奥访谈的幽默人物
1238	We've watched him grow up and of prime importance we know that he is there to represent the	我们已经看着他长大了,而且非常重要我们知道他在那里代表
1239	United Kingdom and the Commonwealth.	联合王国和英联邦。
1240	He's not there for his own advantage so we can trust him to be completely on the side	他不是为了自己的优势,所以我们可以相信他完全站在一边
1241	of Britain and incidentally what is interesting about the coronation is that it affirms in	顺便说一下,加冕礼的有趣之处在于它申明
1242	a very strong way the fact that the King is there to serve not to be served.	一个非常强大的方法,国王在那里服务不服务。
1243	It is all about the denial of self.	这一切都是自我否定。
1244	We saw a supreme example of this last month in Washington.	我们上个月在华盛顿看到了一个最大的例子。
1245	There were many dissenting voices saying he should not go on his state visit to Trump.	有许多异议声音表示他不应该前往特朗普进行国事访问.
1246	I was not one of them.	我不是他们的一员。
1247	I realised that he was the ideal person to pour oil on troubled waters, indeed the only	我意识到他是最理想的人向麻烦的水域倒油, 实际上是唯一的
1248	one who could.	一个可以。
1249	He and Prince William are about the only people in Britain that President Trump respects.	他和威廉王子是英国唯一一个尊重特朗普总统的人.
1250	Only the King could have delivered such a magnificent and thought provoking speech to	只有国王才能发表如此雄伟和发人深省的讲话
1251	Congress which everyone has greatly admired.	大家都非常钦佩的国会
1252	An example of what is mentioned in the brief, his deft diplomatic prowess on the world stage.	简报中提到的一个实例是,他在世界舞台上表现得精明的外交才干。
1253	I know that the team opposite are trotting out anti-monarchical sentiments.	我知道对面的团队正在挑拨出反垄断情绪。
1254	They must have fun being on the attack and attempting to destroy the best elements in	他们一定玩得开心的在攻击中并试图摧毁最好的元素
1255	our constitution.	我们的宪法。
1256	I won't respond with the usual boring defences about the tedium of elected heads of state	我不会用通常无聊的辩词回应有关当选国家元首的陈词滥调
1257	but I will say that monarchy is one of the great safeguards against dictatorship, partly	但我会说,君主制是反对独裁的伟大保障之一, 部分
1258	because power may in theory be invested in the King but he cannot and will not use it.	因为从理论上说权力可能投给了国王但他不能也不会使用它
1259	No bill submitted to Parliament becomes an act until he signs it.	提交议会的法案在他签署之前不得成为法案。
1260	This means that a lot of people see it along the way.	这意味着很多人在路上都看到了.
1261	He is therefore an important safeguard in the constitution.	因此,他是宪法的重要保障。
1262	There's also a major difference between the King and his Prime Minister.	国王和首相之间也有重大区别.
1263	If the Prime Minister gives him formal advice as to how to act, he must and will take it.	如果总理就如何采取行动向他提出正式建议,他必须而且将会接受。
1264	But if the King advises the Prime Minister on a point, he's not obliged to take it,	但是如果国王建议首相有一点他没有义务接受
1265	though he would do well to listen since the King has been around a long time and his advice	虽然他应该好好听从国王的劝告
1266	is likely to be sound.	可能是声音。
1267	That is a rather subtle distinction but it is valuable.	这是一个相当微妙的区别,但很有价值。
1268	The final argument for the King is this.	国王最后的论点就是这个。
1269	What country in the world would not want to have a head of state like ours?	世界上哪个国家不想有像我们这样的国家元首?
1270	A man trained for the job since birth, totally on the side of Britain, removed from the political	一个男人从出生起就接受训练完全站在英国一边被从政界除名
1271	fray, a diplomat, an ambassador for our country to represent us at home and abroad.	fray),外交家,我国驻国内外代表我们的大使.
1272	Look at the heads of state that other countries produce.	看看其他国家的国家元首们
1273	Men like Amin, Abote, Bokassa, Makarios, Ceausescu and even, dare I say it, Trump.	阿明,阿博特,博卡萨,马卡里奥斯,乔塞斯库等男性甚至敢说,特朗普.
1274	Be careful trying to destroy the safeguards to our nation's stability.	要认真做好破坏我国稳定的保障工作.
1275	Remember what Churchill said, a nation may last a thousand years, an hour can lay it in the dust.	记住丘吉尔的话,一个国家可能持续一千年,一个小时就可以把它埋在尘土中.
1276	Madam President, I'm sorry to disappoint the team opposite.	总统女士很抱歉让对面的队伍失望了
1277	There is no appetite in this country to say that the monarchy has ended or that it should end	这个国家并不想说君主制已经结束或者应该结束
1278	and I have no hesitation in opposing the motion.	我毫不犹豫地反对这个动议
1279	Thank you.	谢谢
1280	Thank you very much for that speech.	非常感谢你的演讲。
1281	I now call upon the final speaker on proposition to close the case, Mr Peter Thatcher.	我现在请关于结束此案的提议的最后一位发言者彼得·撒切尔先生发言。
1282	Thank you, Madam President.	谢谢你,主席女士。
1283	Let me start by begging your indulgence.	我先请你原谅我
1284	Please excuse the bloody marks on my face.	请原谅我脸上的血痕
1285	This morning I had a slight altercation with the king.	今早我和国王发生了小争执
1286	He came off worse.	他跑得更惨了
1287	I'm only teasing.	我只是在开玩笑
1288	I had some minor surgery for suspected skin cancer.	我做了一些小手术怀疑皮肤癌。
1289	A warning to you all, if you go out in the sun, wear your sunscreen.	警告你们,如果你们在阳光下出门,请戴上防晒霜。
1290	Tonight's debate is about this house believes the monarchy died with the queen.	今晚的辩论是关于这所房子的,相信君主制与女王一起死去.
1291	I think it is incontestable that public support for the monarchy is in long-term decline.	我认为,公众对于君主制的支持长期下降是无可争议的.
1292	We see in today that only about half the public between 51 or at the best	今天我们只看到大约一半的公众在51或最好的
1293	58% of the public support the monarchy as an institution.	58%的公众支持君主制作为一个机构.
1294	Among younger people, nearly 40% want to replace the monarchy with an elected head of state.	在年轻人中,近40%的人想用民选国家元首取代君主制.
1295	Among Gen Z, only 20% support Britain having a monarchy.	在Gen Z中,只有20%支持英国拥有君主制.
1296	So the long-term trend is very clear and unmistakable.	因此,长期趋势非常明确和明确。
1297	The royals are losing public trust and confidence.	皇族逐渐失去公众的信任和信心.
1298	And that means that we do need to think about an alternative.	这意味着我们确实需要考虑一种替代办法。
1299	That we cannot assume that this institution will continue to command	我们不能假定这个机构将继续指挥
1300	any significant public support in the long term.	从长远来看,任何重大的公众支持。
1301	So for me, it is true that monarchy is a dying institution.	因此,对我来说,君主制的确是一个垂死的体制.
1302	That it decreasingly has the support of the wider public.	越来越少地得到广大公众的支持。
1303	If we look at the monarchy, we're told that the king is there to serve.	如果我们看君主制,我们被告知国王在那里服务.
1304	Well, he serves in a very extravagant and self-rewarding way.	嗯,他服务的方式非常奢侈和自我奖励。
1305	The royals have between them 23 palaces and luxury residences.	皇室在他们之间有23座宫殿和豪华住宅.
1306	Some of which they own personally.	有些是他们个人拥有的
1307	23.	23. 联合国
1308	The royals have between them approximately 700 servants.	皇族之间约有700名仆人.
1309	700.	700块
1310	This is incredible extravagance.	这是不可思议的奢侈。
1311	Particularly at a time of a cost of living crisis	特别是在生活费用危机之时
1312	where many of us are suffering and struggling.	我们许多人正在遭受痛苦和挣扎。
1313	If we look at the total private personal wealth of the royals,	如果我们看看皇室的私人财富
1314	it is around about 2 billion pounds.	大约20亿磅。
1315	This is money and wealth and assets that they own personally.	这是他们个人拥有的金钱、财富和资产。
1316	They're not state or crown assets.	他们不是国家或王室的资产。
1317	They're their personal wealth.	他们是他们的个人财富。
1318	Nearly 2 billion pounds.	近二十亿斤.
1319	King Charles inherited close to a billion pounds from his mother, the late queen.	查尔斯国王从母亲继承了近十亿磅,即已故王后.
1320	He did not pay a penny in inheritance tax.	他没有支付一分钱的遗产税。
1321	Not a penny.	没有一分钱。
1322	The royals, until not long ago, did not pay income tax.	皇族直到不久才缴纳所得税.
1323	Thanks to public pressure, they now do pay income tax.	由于公众的压力,他们现在缴纳所得税。
1324	But we're not allowed to know the rate of their tax or how much they pay.	但是,我们不允许知道他们的税率或支付多少.
1325	These are public servants.	他们是公务员。
1326	We the public fund them.	我们公共资助他们。
1327	But we're not allowed to know the millions and millions	但我们不能知道几百万
1328	they're making for the duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster.	他们正在做康沃尔和兰开斯特的杜奇酒
1329	Plus their other private assets and wealth.	再加上他们的其他私人资产和财富.
1330	The royals are exempt from laws that apply to everyone else.	敕免一切众生之法.
1331	From the laws around equal opportunities.	从法围绕平等的机会。
1332	From the laws concerning housing, education, and the environment.	有关住房、教育和环境的法律。
1333	They are exempt.	他们可以豁免。
1334	Those laws do not apply to them.	这些法律不适用于他们。
1335	Despite their huge wealth that they can afford to apply the laws of the land.	尽管他们拥有巨大的财富,他们可以负担实施国法.
1336	Royal staff are notoriously badly paid.	皇家职员薪水高得不得了
1337	They're told it's an honor to serve.	他们被告知这是荣誉服务。
1338	And that you should accept lower wages because you're in royal service.	你应该接受较低的工资因为你是皇家服务。
1339	What arrogance.	多么自负。
1340	What superiority.	何等为尊.
1341	All of this is incompatible with a modern democratic society.	所有这些都不符合现代民主社会。
1342	Look at the honor system.	看看荣誉制度
1343	The honor system, much of it is appointed or applied by the government of the day.	荣誉制度,大部分由当日政府任命或实施.
1344	But the royals with having in their own power to appoint certain honors	但皇室有权任命某些荣誉
1345	to their favorites regardless.	不管他们喜欢什么。
1346	So the honor system is abused to give honors on royal gardeners.	因此荣誉制度被滥用来给皇家园丁以荣誉.
1347	Royal pastry chefs.	皇家糕点厨师.
1348	Royal stable hands.	皇家马厩手.
1349	This brings the whole honor system into disrepute.	这使得整个荣誉体系变得不光彩.
1350	Honors should be reserved for those who do outstanding,	荣誉应该留给那些表现杰出的人,
1351	brave, and commendable things at personal sacrifice.	勇敢和值得称道的东西在个人牺牲。
1352	Not to people who are flunkies of the royal family.	皇室的失败者不会
1353	We need to look at another few things.	我们需要再看一些东西。
1354	According to the elitist values of the monarchical system.	根据君主制的精英价值.
1355	The most stupid, most immoral, and unwise royal is more entitled to be our head of state	最愚蠢最不道德最不明智的王室更有资格当我们的国家元首
1356	than the wisest and most moral commoner.	比最聪明和最道德的
1357	So you can have a royal who is totally unfit.	这样你就可以有一个完全不适合的王室
1358	And that's a possibility under the inherited system.	这是继承制度下的一种可能性.
1359	And the monarchical system says they are better than the wisest, most moral, non-royal person.	而君主制说,他们比最聪明,最道德,最非王室的人要好.
1360	That's an insult to all of us who are not royals.	这是对我们所有不是皇室的人的侮辱
1361	To say that we are not fit, not capable, not deserving of consideration.	说我们不适合、没有能力、不值得考虑。
1362	That's an insult.	这是侮辱。
1363	Plus with the monarchical system, we also have some deeply problematic issues	加上君主制,我们也有问题
1364	around the implicitly racist and religiously intolerant system of monarchy.	围绕着暗含种族主义和宗教不容忍的君主制。
1365	No Catholic or person married to a Catholic	没有天主教徒或与天主教徒结婚的人
1366	can inherit the British throne and be our head of state.	能够继承英国王位成为我们的国家元首
1367	What that says is the highest public office in the land	上面写的是全国最高的公职
1368	is excluded for anyone who's a Catholic or married to a Catholic.	任何天主教徒或与天主教徒结婚的人都不得参加。
1369	That is outrageous religious intolerance.	这是令人发指的宗教不容忍。
1370	Moreover, the monarchy, the role of head of state,	此外,君主制,国家元首的作用,
1371	is racist not by intention but by default and in practice.	种族主义不是故意的,而是默认和实际上的。
1372	Because only a person born into the all-white Windsor family	因为只有一个人出生在全白的温莎家族
1373	can inherit the monarchy and be our head of state.	可以继承君主制成为我们的国家元首
1374	So therefore, no Asian, black or Chinese person in Britain,	因此,英国没有亚洲人,黑人或中国人,
1375	no matter how good and meritorious they may be, no matter how moral, intelligent and wise,	不管他们有多好多么有才华也不管他们的道德、智慧和智慧
1376	they can never be our head of state.	他们永远不能是我们的国家元首。
1377	That is a form of racism.	这是种族主义的一种形式。
1378	To say to non-white Britons, you can never be our head of state.	对非白人的英国人说你永远不能成为我们的国家元首
1379	That is just so, so wrong.	这太错了
1380	And of course, it's not surprising given the monarchy's long association	当然,考虑到君主制的长期联系,这并不奇怪
1381	with racism, including slavery and colonisation.	种族主义,包括奴役和殖民。
1382	You know, the King has expressed regret for the horrors of slavery	国王已经对奴隶制的恐怖表示遗憾
1383	which was endorsed by his predecessors.	并得到了他的前任们的赞同。
1384	But he's never apologised.	但他从来没有道歉。
1385	He's never said in an act of humility that he was profoundly sorry	他从来没有谦卑地说过他非常抱歉
1386	for what his predecessors did to people in Africa, the Caribbean, Asia and the Pacific.	他的前任对非洲、加勒比、亚洲和太平洋地区人民所做的一切。
1387	That is a sign of a monarchy that is not attuned to the values of modern Britain,	这是不适应现代英国价值观的君主制的标志,
1388	a multicultural society which is trying to move beyond the horrors of slavery and colonisation.	正在试图摆脱奴隶制和殖民化的恐怖的多文化社会。
1389	So I'd like to finish by just saying that the monarchy is dying.	所以我想最后说,君主制正在消亡。
1390	Public support for the monarchy is on the way.	公众支持君主制正在路上.
1391	And we need to acknowledge that.	我们必须承认这一点。
1392	To not pretend things are rosy like they were in the past.	不要假装事情很美好就像过去一样
1393	But to recognise this institution, particularly amongst younger people,	但为了承认这个机构,特别是在年轻人中,
1394	has had its day and it's time to move on.	已经过了一天,是时候继续前进了。
1395	So I would like to say that by all means, please tonight vote for Lady Column Campbell	所以,我想说,通过一切手段, 请今晚投票给夫人Campbell
1396	as the most beautifully and extravagantly dressed person in this debate.	作为这场辩论中最美丽和最奢侈的穿戴者.
1397	But please also vote for this motion that this House believes the monarchy died with the Queen.	但请也投票支持这个动议,本院认为君主制与女王同归于尽.
1398	Thank you.	谢谢
1399	Thank you very much for that speech.	非常感谢你的演讲。
1400	I now call upon the final speaker on opposition to close the case.	我现在请反对的最后一位发言者结束辩论。
1401	Mr Dickie Arbiter.	迪克・阿比特先生
1402	Thank you Madam President and thank you all for coming.	感谢主席女士,并感谢各位前来。
1403	I'm not terribly sure what the switching round of audience is all about	我不太确定观众的交接圈是怎么回事
1404	but I'm glad most of you are staying.	但我很高兴你们能留下来
1405	We've heard all sorts of arguments this evening.	今晚我们听到了各种争论
1406	Namely from Peter Tatchell, he was talking about Catholics.	也就是彼得·塔切尔的,他谈论的是天主教徒.
1407	If you want that Act changed then I suggest you lobby your MP	如果你想改变法案那我建议你游说你的议员
1408	because that is an Act of Parliament.	因为那是议会的法案
1409	In fact, the 1701 Act of Parliament of Settlement signed into law by Queen Anne	事实上,1701年《解决议会法》由安妮女王签署成为法律
1410	but promulgated by the Palace of Westminster, i.e.	但由威斯敏斯特宫颁布,即:
1411	Parliament.	议会.
1412	So if you've got a beef about that, talk to the parliamentarians	所以,如果你对这件事有意见, 和议员们谈谈
1413	because they're the only ones that can change the Act.	因为他们是唯一能改变法案的人
1414	We've heard a lot about the media in cohorts with the palaces.	我们听到很多关于媒体在群集与宫廷。
1415	Which is quite frankly a load of rubbish.	老实说,这是一堆垃圾
1416	In the old days, we used to call them spoilers.	古时常称其为破坏者.
1417	If we got wind that somebody was or a newspaper or magazine	如果有风吹到某人或报纸或杂志
1418	was going to issue a story that we didn't particularly care for	打算发表一个故事我们并不特别关心
1419	or they got it wrong, we phoned up around Fleet Street,	或者他们弄错了我们打过电话在舰队街附近
1420	gave them the story and they published it	他们把故事告诉他们,他们就加以报道。
1421	and it meant that the paper or the magazine that thought	这意味着报纸或杂志认为
1422	they had an exclusive didn't and it was diluted somewhat.	他们有一个独家没有, 它被淡化了一些。
1423	As far as an elected head of state, interesting point.	至於当选的国家元首,有趣的一点.
1424	We have two Australians here, Harry Stratton and Peter Tatchell,	我们这儿有两个澳大利亚人哈里·斯特拉顿和彼得·塔切尔
1425	both born in Australia and now over here.	都出生在澳大利亚现在在这里
1426	Australia tried it.	澳大利亚试过了。
1427	They tried it in 1999 and quite frankly,	他们在1999年尝试过坦率地说
1428	what we call in the broadcast business Vox Pops,	我们所说的广播业务 Vox Pops,
1429	it's interviewing people and taking snippets of what they've said to broadcast them.	它采访人们并收集片段他们所说的广播他们。
1430	Youngsters, and when I say youngsters,	年轻人,当我说年轻人,
1431	I'm talking about late teens and twenties and early thirties.	我说的是晚十几岁,二十几岁,三十几岁。
1432	They said, if it ain't broke, why fix it?	他们说,如果它没有坏, 为什么要修复它?
1433	And it ain't broke.	而且没有破掉
1434	And consequently, that referendum went in the way of retaining the monarchy	因此,这次公投阻碍了君主制的保持
1435	by 54.5% to 48.2%.	从54.5%到48.2%。
1436	That says something.	这说明什么。
1437	Australia is not terribly good with the referendum.	澳大利亚对全民投票不甚满意。
1438	They had one about First Nation people represented in parliament	他们有一个关于原住民在议会中的代表
1439	and that one lost too.	那个也输了
1440	And quite frankly, I can't see Australia changing its constitution anytime soon.	坦率地说,我看不到澳大利亚很快会改变它的宪法。
1441	The Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese, when he came to power in 2022,	总理安东尼·阿尔巴内斯在2022年上台时,
1442	he made very clear that the changing constitution was not on his agenda.	他非常明确地说,修改后的宪法没有列入他的议程。
1443	And everybody thought, okay, well, maybe he'll get in a second time	每个人都想,好吧,好吧,也许他会得到在第二次
1444	and maybe he'll consider that.	也许他会考虑的
1445	Well, he got in again in 2025 and still it's not on the agenda.	2025年他又上场了日程上还是没有
1446	The Australians, I think, basically are quite happy with what they got.	澳洲人,我想, 基本上,是相当满意他们得到了什么。
1447	We heard about Harry and Meghan going to Australia	我们听说哈里和梅根要去澳大利亚
1448	and how Australians turns out in their tens of thousands.	以及澳大利亚人数以万计的结局
1449	We've had the King and Queen in Australia.	我们在澳大利亚有国王和皇后
1450	They turned out in their tens of thousands,	他们以数万计,
1451	not dragged and kicking and screaming,	而不是被拖走,被踢和尖叫,
1452	but they went there because they wanted to go there.	但他们去那儿因为他们想去那里。
1453	We've also heard some eloquent figures from Peter Tatchell again,	我们又听到彼得·塔切尔的一些雄辩的数字
1454	sorry to pinpoint on you,	对不起,我确定你,
1455	but he was giving all sorts of figures about the popularity of monarchy.	但是他给出了各种各样的数字关于君主制的流行。
1456	These are all gleaned from market research surveys.	这些都来自市场调查。
1457	I don't believe them.	我不相信他们。
1458	I don't see how you can get a result interviewing 2000 people at the most	我不明白你如何得到一个结果采访最多2000人
1459	and finding out that maybe only 51 or 52% of the population	发现也许只有51%或52%的人口
1460	think the monarchy is a good thing.	认为君主制是一件好事.
1461	The only way you can test that is through the ballot box.	你只能通过投票箱测试
1462	And the only way you can do that is if you insist	如果你坚持
1463	on having a referendum on an elected head of state.	关于就民选国家元首举行公民投票的决定。
1464	And I'm not terribly sure what you mean by an elected head of state	我不太明白你所说的当选国家元首的意思
1465	because it's either an executive head of state or a ceremonial.	因为它要么是国家的行政首脑,要么是礼仪.
1466	Either way, you have to change the constitution.	无论如何,你必须改变宪法。
1467	And to change the constitution, that requires debate in parliament,	为了改变宪法这需要议会辩论
1468	in the House of Commons, which is elected,	下议院,由选举产生,
1469	and in the upper house, which isn't elected,	而在上院,没有当选,
1470	to come to a conclusion, to present it to the people	以得出一个结论,向人民介绍
1471	so they can vote one way or another.	这样他们就可以投票了
1472	My guess is they'll probably vote against it	我猜他们会投票反对的
1473	because we've seen how elected presidents,	因为我们看到如何当选的总统,
1474	whether executive or ceremonial, operate in the rest of the world.	无论是行政还是礼仪,在世界其他地方运作。
1475	We have an American here telling us how to run our country.	我们这里有个美国人告诉我们如何管理国家
1476	We would never tell you how to run your country.	我们永远不会告诉你如何管理你的国家。
1477	We might criticise Trump,	我们可能会批评特朗普,
1478	but we would never tell you how to run your country.	但我们绝不会告诉你如何管理国家
1479	And I appreciate that you don't do it again	我很感激你不会再这么做了
1480	because I don't think it's fair on the people of the United Kingdom	因为我觉得对英国人不公平
1481	to be told by, I'm going to say it,	我要说,
1482	how to run our country.	如何管理我们的国家。
1483	We know how to do it pretty well	и笵或暗
1484	and we've done it for tens of thousands of years.	我们做了好几万年了
1485	But if you want a referendum, speak to your MP,	但如果你想举行公投和你的议员谈谈
1486	get a motion in parliament to get the ball rolling,	在议会得到一个动议让球滚滚,
1487	get the signatures, but it doesn't actually work	拿到签名,但实际上行不通
1488	because elected presidents, they come and go.	因为当选的总统, 他们来去去。
1489	Monarchies don't, they die, but they don't die that often.	君主政体没有,他们死了,但不会经常死去.
1490	Ceremonial heads of state, they're quite expensive.	仪式上的国家元首,他们相当昂贵.
1491	We know that the president of the United States	我们知道美国总统
1492	costs in excess of a billion pounds a year.	每年花费超过10亿英镑。
1493	We know that the ceremonial head of state in Italy,	我们知道意大利的国家元首
1494	Sergio Mattarelli, he is given about 230 pounds a year	塞尔吉奥·马塔雷利,他每年得到230磅
1495	by the government to run his business.	由政府经营他的生意
1496	It doesn't include travel,	这不包括旅行
1497	that's quite separately for the government.	这对政府来说相当不同
1498	He doesn't include the maintenance of the Quirinale,	他没有包括维护奎里纳勒号,
1499	which is his residential palace.	这是他的故宫
1500	Then we have Franz Walter Steinberger,	然后是弗朗茨·沃尔特·斯坦伯格
1501	Steinmeier 他是德国总统
1502	he's another ceremonial head of state.	他是另一个仪式性的国家元首.
1503	He's about to move out of Schloss Bellevue,	他即将搬出施洛斯贝勒维
1504	which is the official residence.	这是正式住所。
1505	And wait for it, because the republic complained	等待它,因为共和国抱怨
1506	about Buckingham Palace being renovated.	白金汉宫正在翻修
1507	Schloss Bellevue将花费6亿欧元.
1508	Buckingham Palace cost to renovate 369 million pounds.	白金汉宫花费3.69亿英磅进行翻修.
1509	Now, before you say, well, that's a lot of money.	现在,在你说之前,那是一大笔钱。
1510	Yes, it is a lot of money,	是的,这是很多钱,
1511	but it hadn't been touched for over 50 years.	但50多年没有碰过
1512	So they removed 100 miles of vulcanized India rubber	所以他们取走了100英里的硫化印度橡胶
1513	cabling because it had perished and it was dangerous.	因为它已经死了,而且很危险。
1514	They removed 50 miles of lead piping for plumbing.	他们取走了50英里长的管道管道
1515	They removed all the antiquated heating.	他们取消了所有过时的暖气。
1516	They removed 5,000 light fittings.	他们拿走了5000件灯具
1517	They moved 250-odd toilet bowls.	他们搬了250多张马桶
1518	It needed to be done.	需要这样做。
1519	And it is done.	并完成了。
1520	And where's the money coming from?	钱从哪里来?
1521	Indirectly from the taxpayer,	间接来自纳税人,
1522	but direct from the crown estate,	却直接从王室里走出来,
1523	from the sovereign's grant.	从君主的赠款。
1524	Our people say, and republic are very good at this,	我们的人民说,共和国很擅长这个,
1525	to say that the monarchy costs a lot of money,	说君主制花费了很多钱,
1526	is about in excess of 300 million pounds for security.	大约超过3亿磅用于保安
1527	We don't know what the security costs.	我们不知道什么安全费用。
1528	We don't know what the security costs	我们不知道什么安全费用
1529	at the Palace of Westminster.	在威斯敏斯特宫
1530	We don't know what the security bill is	我们不知道保险单是什么
1531	because it's not our business to know.	因为这不关我们的事
1532	The treasury keep it under wraps,	国库把它包起来
1533	the security services keep it under wraps.	保安部门会保密的
1534	Security is necessary.	安全是必要的。
1535	Security for diplomats,	外交官的安全,
1536	for politicians,	对于政治家,
1537	for the royal family is necessary.	皇室是必须的。
1538	Only few royals have 24-hour security,	只有很少的皇家人有24小时的保安
1539	the king and queen,	国王和女王,
1540	the Waleses and their three children.	威尔士人和他们的三个孩子。
1541	The rest of them,	其余的,他们
1542	they only get it when they're out on engagement.	他们只有在订婚时才能拿到
1543	The security bill in republic's terms is expensive,	共和国的安保法案很昂贵
1544	but in real terms, it isn't.	但实际上,它不是。
1545	The monarchy gets 132 million pounds a year.	君主制每年获得1.32亿磅.
1546	This is what they got last year.	这是他们去年得到的
1547	The new figures won't come out until the end of June.	新人物到6月底才出来.
1548	What do they do with this?	他们拿这个干什么?
1549	Because it sounds like a lot of money.	因为它听起来像很多钱。
1550	Well, 39 million goes to the restoration	那么,3900万去修复
1551	of Buckingham Palace.	白金汉宫
1552	It's got to be done, as I said a moment ago.	得如我前说.
1553	That is completed next year	明年就结束了
1554	and the money that they get each year will go down.	而他们每年得到的钱会减少。
1555	But also within that vote,	但是在投票中,
1556	they have to pay for royal travel	他们必须支付皇家旅行费
1557	because it's the government that sends them abroad.	因为政府把他们送到国外
1558	It's the government that sent them to the United States,	是政府派他们去美国的
1559	not them putting their hands up,	不让他们举起手来,
1560	saying they wanted to go to the United States.	说他们想去美国
1561	It's the government that sends them all over the world.	是政府派他们到世界各地
1562	It is the government that sends William and Catherine	是政府派威廉和凯瑟琳来的
1563	all over the world.	遍满世界.
1564	So it has to be paid for	所以必须付钱
1565	and it's paid for out of the money	和它的钱支付
1566	that comes from the sovereign's grant.	这是来自君主的赠款。
1567	But also has got to be paid for	但也要付钱
1568	is the maintenance of the buildings.	是建筑物的维护。
1569	Now, in the old days,	现在,过去,
1570	it used to be direct government money	以前是政府直接的钱
1571	from Department of the Environment.	来自环境部。
1572	Now it comes out of money	现在,它来自钱
1573	that's given to them by the sovereign's grant.	这是君主给他们的
1574	They have to be maintained.	它们必须维持。
1575	We heard an outrageous figure,	我们听到一个令人发指的人物
1576	again from you, Peter, I think it was.	彼得,我又从你嘴里说出来了
1577	They have 700 servants.	他们有700名仆人。
1578	They don't have 700 servants.	他们没有700个仆人.
1579	They have about 500, which sounds a lot.	他们有大约500, 这听起来很多。
1580	I agree.	и種
1581	Hear me out.	听我说
1582	It does sound a lot.	听起来不错
1583	But included in that figure are electricians,	但包括电工在内
1584	plumbers, cabinet makers,	水管工、柜员、
1585	furniture restorers, picture restorers.	家具修复器图片修复器
1586	They are tradespeople.	他们是商人。
1587	They are employed within the royal household	她们在王室中就业
1588	so that they don't have to go out	这样他们就不用出去了
1589	and spend a fortune on private dealers.	并花一大笔钱给私人交易商。
1590	So it is money well spent.	钱花得漂亮
1591	Yes, they do have a lot of people working there,	是的,他们确实有很多人在那里工作,
1592	but the place has got to be maintained.	但这个地方必须保持。
1593	And eventually,	最终,
1594	I don't see the king and queen ever living there again.	我再也见不到国王和皇后了
1595	It will be open more times of the year,	一年多的营业时间
1596	probably open 12 months of the year	一年中可能开放12个月
1597	and only closed for state and ceremonial occasions	只能因州和礼节而关闭
1598	because whether it's a tourist attraction or not,	因为它是否是一个旅游景点,
1599	it is still the headquarters of British monarchy.	它仍然是英国君主制的总部.
1600	One day maybe Windsor Castle will be,	也许有一天温莎城堡会
1601	but I don't think so.	但我不这么认为。
1602	Buckingham Palace will always remain the headquarters	白金汉宫永远是总部
1603	and that's where heads of state want to go to.	这是国家元首想要去的地方
1604	So in reply to the motion, I disagree with it.	所以我不同意这个动议
1605	The monarchy is not dead.	君主制没有死.
1606	The monarch, Queen Elizabeth II, is, unfortunately.	不幸的是,君主伊丽莎白二世女王是。
1607	We have a healthy monarch,	我们有一个健康的君主,
1608	as healthy as he can be,	虽然他身体健康,
1609	having treatment fairly regularly for cancer,	定期接受癌症治疗;
1610	but he's doing a good job.	但是他做得不错
1611	He is doing a good job accompanied by his wife, Camilla.	他在妻子卡米拉的陪伴下干得不错
1612	Many of you probably won't like her.	你们很多人可能都不喜欢她
1613	Oh, and by the way,	对了
1614	why didn't he get married to Camilla then?	那他为什么不嫁给卡米拉?
1615	Because at the time that they met,	因为在他们见面的时候
1616	she had the hots.	她有热。
1617	Yeah, she had the hots for Andrew Parker Bowles.	是啊,她为安德鲁・帕克・鲍尔斯着迷。
1618	She wasn't interested.	她不感兴趣。
1619	She pursued him relentlessly	她无情地追着他
1620	until eventually he gave in	直到最终他屈服
1621	and he proposed to her in March	他于3月向她求婚
1622	and he married her in August of the same year.	他于同年8月与她结婚.
1623	That's pretty quick.	这么快
1624	They had an on-off relationship for seven years	他们有7年的脱口秀
1625	while he went off gallivanting in the army	那时他正在军队中奋战
1626	and bedding all sorts of ladies	和床铺各种女士
1627	who wanted to be bedded with him.	他们想和他同床共枕
1628	Sorry if I'm interrupting your delicate minds,	对不起,如果我打断你的细心,
1629	but that's the fact of life.	但这就是生活的事实。
1630	That's what it was.	这就是它是什么。
1631	So in reply to your motion,	为了回应你的动议
1632	the monarchy is dead.	君主制已经灭亡了
1633	Queen Elizabeth II is.	女王伊丽莎白二世是.
1634	The monarchy isn't dead and long may it reign.	君主制没有死,但愿它能长期统治.
1635	God save the king.	神救诸王.
1636	Thank you.	谢谢

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